Steve Smith wrote:
Hi all,
It's time for me to request equipment & software for
next years budget and I still don't have a warm & fuzzy
feeling about Protel 2004. Has SP1 improved the Situs
autorouter? Are the other improvements worth the $3500
USD? I have seen a few of you say that once you ha
Jeff Condit wrote:
Provided you have wide spaces between traces, what is the thickest copper (internal/external foil/plating) commonly acceptable to your Fab houses?
We have a boardhouse here doing 300um = 0.3mm copper with traces about
0.5mm apart. The 300um copper approximates to 8 ounces I gues
Ivan,
your wish comes too late. The EU is going to require leadfree
pcb's from 2005 onwards. As far as I know no more leaded pcb
may be sold after 2007. While I have some understanding for
your position, any discussion is meaningless.
My favourite assembler already produces leadfree, and I
have a f
Gustavo Olego wrote:
DO anyones know where I can get information about this tools because I
used It but the placement that I get was poor.
Consider this feature to be experimental.
How would some software be able to gleam the arrangement
of connectors ?
Rene
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Trent Bates wrote:
I am trying to export one of my schematics to a customer. I am using Protel
99SE SP6.
The customer would like it in a pdf format or an Orcad format (.DSN file or
something of the sort) or something they could read from PSpice. I tried
saving one of my schematics as an Orcad .sc
Gladly.
-the mouse scroll for panning and zooming as well in the
schematic as in the pcb. I don't have to add the panning
in the schematic with the right mouse. That was overdue.
-When exiting with a lot of files open, I'm asked which
I want to have saved.
-renaming copper that is already there,
Steve Wiseman wrote:
I've got a project coming up which I'd like to run through DXP as a
learning project, since it's not too urgent. While I do have a huge
archive of DXP emails from [EMAIL PROTECTED], which I could
no doubt work my way through, are there any other resources out
there to help
Website Visitor wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to make rules for some type of component only route
in one specific layer (bottom or top) in a 2 side board. I'm using
the InComponent('designator') function in the advanced query and
make the constraints for just one type of layer (bottom or top)
but Protel
When doning changes to opened 99SE libraries, you will be asked how
they're going to be saved. Saving as 99SE is possible when you don't use
the extended features, such as infinitely many footprints belonging to a
schematic sybmol.
I too, edit my libraries with 99SE and pull them over, but as cop
Shoultz, Ron J wrote:
DATE : 06-27-2004 Sunday 1630
SUB : P2004, create footprint in pcblib, place pad, designator.
To : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in P2004, pcblib.
I'm creating a footprint.
I place pad.
I double click on pad, bring up properties.
Th
Yes, remove the components from the schematics.
Rene
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Peter Moreton wrote:
Hi,
Is there a way to stop the 99SE schematic editor 'update PCB' command from
re-creating the component comments that I so carefully r
The + and - buttons on the key board do that for me by default.
Rene
Yuriy khapochkin wrote:
I read about it is this very newsgroup.
Add button to PCB editor.
Set button parameters as below
Process: PCB:DocumentPreferencies
Parameters: TopSignal = Toggle
Bitmap File: .bmp
Enjoy.
I put this buttons
Terry Harris wrote:
Having just been offered a discount to upgrade from 99SE to 2004 it's time
to think about it again. (I knew those special offers would keep coming).
Is it fit to use yet or should hold out for a couple more service packs and
the next special offer?
As the next Servicepack of
John A. Ross [RSDTV] wrote:
What I would strongly advise is that you make a design spec, say a small micro
that flashes some
LEDs, well, it may as well look good, and do it in the most complex and difficult way.
Keep notes & times on this exercise, likes dislikes, put 1 LED per sheet, the micro
Nukien wrote:
Hi All -
Somewhat offtopic here ... I'm currently a 99SE devout user - we haven't
made the switch to 2004 yet. I've been discussing it with some colleagues,
and a couple of them have gone to Mentor's PADS 2004 product. They're still
new at it, but are definitely singing praises.
JaMi Smith wrote:
Has anyone reverse engineered the Nanoboard yet?
Where's the schematic?
I had a look at it when I got 2004. The schematic appears to
be there as well as the schematic for the daugtherboards. The
nanoboard is an evalboard, as I see it.
The whole development with cpu core and debu
Strange,
I received the full package. Manuals, CD, and some code to be mailed
to Altium. I got the license code in return. It is running now.
The handling might depend on the distributor in your country, I guess.
Colleagues in a neighbouring country didn't get anything at all yet.
Not even an annou
Kiba Dempsey wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find any independent reviews on the DXP
software?
Hardly here. While independent, I'd assume it biased.
Biased by fullfilled and not fullfilled expectations
from 99SE.
Why don't you download the trial version for DXP
and have a look at it yourself ?
Laurie Biddulph wrote:
Is there any recommended method in Protel 99 of handling
the power pins on logic chips similar to my first method
above that Protel 99 can handle comfortably?
Let me advocate my preferred method.
I have the schematic symbol identical to the footprint,
the powerpins visible
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wanted to share a tip for a difficulty that I've seen discussed here
many times, just an alternative to the solutions presented here in the past.
I needed to make some modifications to a previously laid-out board which had
ground pours on both sides of the board.
It is not necessarily a 96 pin, but the norm is called DIN41612.
They have 2x32 pins, 3x 32 pins, 16pin (highcurrent), plus
many more.
The drillholes are the same for all though.
Rene
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Jeff Stout wrote:
Also m
1' and 'B1' and
they then get the same net.
Thanks again.
Rene
Rene Tschaggelar wrote:
Thanks a lot John,
(both your posts reached me at almost the same time)
I had a very quick look before going to dinner.
The point appears to be that the second row of pads
is named with an &#
x27;ll have a closer look when I come back.
Rene
John A. Ross [Design] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 2:18 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] double pins
I'm usually coming from the Update des
?
Rene
Frances Wheeler wrote:
I think if you reload the netlist both pins will get a connection.
-Original Message-----
From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:46 PM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: [PEDA] double pins
A footprint of a connector, the mi
A footprint of a connector, the microstac of ERNI, contains
each two faces per pin. Each pin is just one piece of brass, but not
touching in its middle. An explicitely not having copper there.
So I placed two pins with the same number each. Protel 99SE
somehow doesn't like it. From the netlist, onl
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 05:34 PM 12/2/2003, you wrote:
Now, I have several throughhole pads that should connect to a
midlayer. They appear not to connect though. Beside the
4 90degree sectors, that form a heat resistance, also a
ring can bee seen, obviously isolating the hole.
The vias only
Thanks Edi,
the split planes appear to have been accepted, at least halfway.
Now, I have several throughhole pads that should connect to a
midlayer. They appear not to connect though. Beside the
4 90degree sectors, that form a heat resistance, also a
ring can bee seen, obviously isolating the hole.
I'm the first time trying to do a multilayer.
I've set up the middle two layers as GND and VCC.
Both layers are split. I therefore placed tracks
through them. Common tracks on all layers were
placed as keepout.
Upon a printout, I found that middle layer don't
have keepouts.
Is it therefore true tha
Adeel Malik wrote:
> Does someone possess the contact info of cheap but reliable PCB Component
> Assembly Houses in North America ?. Also I wanted to know what are the
> important factors that determine the Assembly cost for PCBs. Is the cost
> direct proportional to the number of Solder Points/ C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'd like to use a large, unmasked, plated, copper pour, on a single layer, to
> perform as a heat sink for a D-Pak regulator.
>
> I need to quantify the thermal resistance of the copper pour to ambient. I
> know it's based on copper thickness and copper area.
"Mr. Zhang" wrote:
>
> I am sorry that it should be "Query Language"
> >Must I have to use quiring language? Thank you!
> >
You should ask that in the DXP forums at Altium.
Yes, there is a query language. I don't know whether a
written reference with all the options exists though.
Rene
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Ing.
"Hamid A. Wasti" wrote:
>
> I am current using 99SE and have been sitting on the DXP "upgrade" for a
> few months. Being a Protel user for almost 10 years, I know better than
> to use any Protel product right after its release. But being 1 year and
> 2 service packs into it, is DXP mostly stable
Tim Fifield wrote:
>
> When making a panel is it best to do it in Protel or a gerber tool such as
> Camtastic?
I do it with Protel.
select the region, copy.
paste special - array while duplicating designators
and not repouring polygons.
That is it.
I tend the use a new pcb-file for that with cop
Thanks for the in-depth story and link.
Rene
Ian Wilson wrote:
>
> The first resonance (at least) of a cap is series, so looks like a short
> circuit. By adding a number of different valued caps you can scatter a
> number of these nice AC shorts around your board and around your
> frequencies o
Is there no footprint given in a manufacturers datasheet ?
It just a minute or two to make this footprint, much faster than
a websearch.
Rene
Tim Fifield wrote:
>
> Does anybody have a footprint for a SSOP24-P-300-1.00B?
>
> The part is a Toshiba TPD7203F gate driver IC. Pin pitch is 1mm and bo
I do have an 800MHz Samba server and it takes a while longer
than local files even though the network is 100MBit and the
drives are very fast.
I cannot number the delay right now, but it is significant.
Rene
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
>
> > All our PC's are running w2k (including the server
Unfortunately, the libraries do not support hierarchies.
This means the library layout is flat and with fully qualified
resistors, you end up with a long list of them:
..
R1206_910R_1%
R1206_1k00_1%
R1206_1k10_1%
R1206_1k20_1%
..
I don't have a satisfying solution. I never fund a use to the
many
I tend to have the mounting holes as schematic components, there
they're called M3. There they can be assigned a net, eg GND, EARTH,
or nothing. Then they have an M3 footprint, too.
When you have placed these footprints, lock them.
Rene
Peter Moreton wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm using 99SE, and tryi
Could be a faulty printer driver.
What brand and type of printer you're using ?
And what OS ?
Rnee
Nicholas Cobb wrote:
>
> Whenever I print a PCB in Protell99SE, 8 gray rectangles are printed
> diagonally across the page. When I print a schematic or a BOM or anything
> else they don't appear. H
You have to enable electrical snap anyway.
That makes the track attach to the center of the pad.
It happens rather often that not everything is on the
preset snap. Eg when the pad distance is not dividable
by the snap distance.
Usually pin_1 of the footprint aligns with
the snap grid and the oth
Ah,
that was some misunderstanding then. I have 99SE SP6.
But WinNT4 SP4.
Rene
Brad Velander wrote:
>
> Rene,
> Aj is talking of the Protel Service Pack 6 for P99SE. Updating
> Protel 99SE to SP6 is highly recommended and there are no adverse
> effects to performing the update that I know of.
to the above didn't quite get thru
> on the last try.
>
> regards,
>
> aj
>
> > From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > While I develop with Delphi, also Delphi5, on this machine,
> > I don't develop for Protel99SE. I just
, in terms of repairing the
> problem, I found it interesting that it seems to affect SP4. Ever thought
> about moving into the far-flung future and installing SP6 already?
>
> regards,
>
> aj
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rene Tschaggelar [mai
Upon startup,
it loads a few projects up until it fails with a modal form :
Access Violation at ... in module CSRTL50.bpl. read of adress ...
I have to kill the app with the task manager and the same
repeats after a restart.
99SE SP6 on WinNT4 SP4
I vaguely remember some files will have to be de
Hmm,
a 300 Volt track should perhaps have a bit more clearance
than just 10mil. Set that under Design rules, clearances,
there make a new one and do it for one or more specific nets.
Rene
rimas wrote:
hi there protel users,
this question has two parts - one specific to protel and one not. fi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:tschaggelar@;dplanet.ch]
Just assuming a mice to
be a trivial device that
always works under all
circumstances is a bit
blue eyed.
^
What?
oops, the meaning was : naive.
believing everything.
Rene
That's why you get another 2 or three mice when you find one that
suits your needs. Just assuming a mice to be a trivial device that
always works under all circumstances is a bit blue eyed.
Rene
Tony Karavidas wrote:
Hi all,
Remember that mouse driver thread that was going around a few months
a
You can do that if you wish.
I do have top overlay tracks on the pads showing the exact location
of the part, that is perfect since I never get them printed in reality.
Rene
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Rich Thompson wrote:
Seems to be resonable.
Just confirm that the groups aren't too big.
We once arranged a half day private course at our distributor.
Meaning there were just the two of us plus the instructor.
We weren't told things we already knew as it may happen in bigger
groups but could get a fast update on tho
Well,
I'm no expert in the Protel Servers, but in Delphi.
Unless you want to commercialize your product, the Delphi7 personal
seems to suite. The next step, Delphi7 professional includes the
source of many libraries, plus allows you to commercialize your work.
The upgrades require a Delphi 6 of th
There possibly are also free pdf converters if that helps.
Rene
"Barry, Rick" wrote:
>
> Though PDF is very functional, I suspect others are in the same boat as I,
> in that we don't get to chose what office software we have to use.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*
get to chose what office software we have to use.
>
> Rick Barry
> Warner Power LLc
> www.warnerpower.com
> 603.456.4485
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rene Tschaggelar [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:43 AM
> &g
Oops,
Word is not the right target.
Try pdf instead.
Acrobat is in the order of 250$US.
and at least as common as Word.
Especially the reader is free.
Rene
Mark HARRISON wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I'm having trouble cutting and pasting schematics from Protel 99SE into a
> M$Office Word 2000 documen
The biggest FPGA I'done is a 144 pin. Yes, it takes some work.
It was a TQFP and I wanted the schematic to look like the
footprint. I placed each pin by hand and named it according to
the ALTERA naming: (TDI, TMS, GNDIO, VCCINT, GCLK1 .. ) but only
after having them placed with increasing number
Daniel Webster wrote:
>
> "Altium will offer customers increased flexibility with choices for hotline
> phone support and pre-paid
> upgrades for those that require direct access to product support
> specialists, and/or predictable annual
> software costs. There will be no disadvantages for custo
No, I cannot.
I had to drop one supplier because they'd have my order
laying around for a few days before processing it. On the
other hand, the one processing the files there would call
me in case he didn't understand something. The new supplier
appears to have a dummy there. I recently forgot t
Unfortunately the footprints are not that portable
across machines, just libraries. But
they are very simple to do yourself with the wizard.
The dimensions can be looked up in the datasheets.
You spend in the order of 5 minutes including the schematic
symbol.
Rene
***
;
> -Original Message-
> From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
...
> Subject: [PEDA] Document manager tree gone in 99SE
>
> Upon restart of P99SE, suddenly the tree of the Document manager
> is missing. The icon changes almost nothing. It inserts a few
>
Upon restart of P99SE, suddenly the tree of the Document manager
is missing. The icon changes almost nothing. It inserts a few
pixels to the left side of the document window
Any ideas ?
Rene
* Tracking #: F95D98EEE4D0F14C
Every other newsgreader provides a message filter.
I throw Protel- and DXP messages each in a folder of its own.
Rene
Gareth Bradley wrote:
>
> Hi,
> This is a great mailing list - /If/ you need help with Protel.
> I however, do not. It works fine for me. I can run it through
> Linux (Via XWi
It is possible and I've seen it.
A colleague of mine does it step by step, busses, the supply
except GND, then the rest. It took him a great while to figure
out though. I might ask him next time I come by.
Rene
Ian Wilson wrote:
> #2 There is a problem with P99SE router it only seems to do Au
I had the chance to get a demo on PADS 4.0 from a colleague of mine
who is using pads for more than a decade now.
There appear to be several modules to be purchased independently.
He said something about a 20k$ invesment and 3k$ per year.
It was interesting to see him place an additional componen
There may be some that are able to run the autorouter,
I'm not amongst them, perhaps I didn't have the
necessary patience.
Panelizing is done with copy and paste special.
The paste special has some options. Give them a try.
Rene
Katinka Mills wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am just starting to hav
Interesting. The last time I've seen finite element analysis, it took ages
for simple stuff. Feedback about the speed is appreciated.
Rene
Fred A Rupinski wrote:
>
> FYI
>
> This is from the introduction at the link below, "FastFieldSolvers (...was
> conceived...) in early 2000, from past expe
Since it doesn't run on your 500MHz Pentium with WinNT and
you therefore load it onto the new 1.8GHz machine with Win2k,
you won't notice.
The speed on a 1.1GHz Notebook was acceptable.
Rene
Chris Mogford wrote:
>
> p.s. I'm anxious about the comments about DXP being slower, oh my god!
*
Thanks for the info.
I wasn't aware of the servicepacks. There appears to
have been a communication problem then.
I see the point, ATS includes one year of servicepacks.
I'm probably going to get DXP at the latest possible
date before the conditions drop.
Rene
Phillip Stevens wrote:
>
> Rene
Perhaps unlimited calls. Unfortunately there was just
one person doing support then and he spent his time
giving classes. Calling back ? Perhaps after you kept
calling him 4 times per hour for a day or so.
There was no support then, at least as I remember.
Rene
"Michael Reagan (EDSI)" wrote:
>
AFAIR, 99SE was to first to have servicepacks.
2.8 was halfway working, the next year came 3.0.
The next year came 98, the next year came 99, then came
99SE and then the servicepacks. And I paid for every
version up to 99.
No ?
Rene
Bruce Walter wrote:
>
> >forget ATS, you don't require it.
AFAIK, the strings are the last ones or derived from the last ones.
Also the pin 8.
Sometimes I have pin 17 or pin 21. A minor nuisance.
This behaviour may depend on the servicepack.
Rene
Tim Fifield wrote:
>
> Here's another few questions I've been wondering about for some time.
>
> Why is i
I agree with you.
The smaller the marketshare the customerfriendlier a
company has to act. AFAIK, Protel, ahem Altium could increase
their marketshare and therefore don't have to act that
customerfriendly anymore.
Microsoft can act like a king.
Rene
Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
>
> Rene:
not really.
when i enter 0.05 inches, I want to see 50 mil and not 49..
And when I entered 0.625mm, I want to see 0.625mm and not 0.624999.
Of course, when changing the grid from one to the other, I get some
decimals. But when I change the grid back, the value should be the
same.
That should
forget ATS, you don't require it.
we'll see what happens with future service packs.
Whether ther are available for free or not.
As to the online libraries :
Without a decent library browser I consider supplied libraries
useless. I'd rather have my own. Supplied footprint libraries
are complete
;t want. They didn't get the use of those
> intermediate versions, so why should they pay for them?
>
> Best regards,
> Ivan Baggett
> Bagotronix Inc.
> website: www.bagotronix.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rene Tschaggelar" <[EMAIL P
No, there are newsreaders that can sort by thread, by time/date,
by sender and so on. They become mixed up when the time/date is not
right, meaning the reply is sorted before the question.
The same holds for the reference. When you create a 'new' message
by pressing reply to something and change t
Andrew Jenkins wrote:
>
> That sentiment was built when Protel cost a third of its present price, only
> a few short years ago. The rapid tripling of Protel's price at the behest of
> Protel/Altium's corporate captains, coupled with their clever new ATS
> coercement, has made that warm-n-fuzzy se
A pragmatic approach :
When JaMi would reveal his adress, we could send him a new mouse
and close this suject. They are in the order of 20$.
Rene
Tony Karavidas wrote:
>
> I can see it now, you're probably one of those guys that sits clearly on one
> side of the hardware/software fence and bla
It is not only that the time/date are wrong. Quite often members
produce an new message by pressing reply to a selected one and then
change the subject line. The reference however is still there.
There are newsreaders that also sort by referenced subject,
then the whole subject tree is mixed up.
That now is the expression evaluator. I forgot where it is located.
It is far more powerful than the global one, but tahes some thoughts.
Rene
Bill wrote:
Hi,
I'm evaluating DXP. Had evaluated 99SE a few months ago and made a small two
layer board.I'm now converting the board to DXP to s
I got the info from our distributor on discussion of a quote.
It might be I somewhat misunderstood the ATS from the beginning.
I had the impression of a system change, the microsoft way.
Now it appears to be an addition. You get it together with an upgrade
and don't have to renew it.
I admittedly
I joined. Not much on at the moment. There are very few having DXP
at the moment. I wouldn't even have time at the moment.
The yahoogroup is public too. Works like this one but could be
quieter. We'll see. The creators are supposed to be there too.
Since I don't have Win2k on my usual machines, I'
I got a quote yesterday saying it runs on NT, 2k and XP only.
Rene
Narinder Kumar wrote:
>
> Yes It won't run at all under NT?
>
> I got a quotation for DXP from Protel it say " Working with Windows 2000 and
> XP only "
I'm using Altera FPGAs exclusively, since the tools are an effort in
itself. I also find the handling of MaxPlus2 rather awful, Quartus2
is a bit better.
The functionality they provide is far beyond just a schematic editor.
They allow me have graphic modules ( forget the VHDL for now)
to make a hi
You're wrong. The NDA applies for afterwards too.
The NDA covers the NDA too, I guess.
The beta was a lot of tiring work, so let's forget about
the beta and focus on the release. You do your
purchase decision on the release and not on the beta.
The beta is gone ...
Rene
Joe Sapienza wrote:
>
I recently had a look into the subject of FPGA and Protel.
I was told the FPGA router is still taken from the manufacturer
(in your case XILINX).
Meaning you're just using Protel to draw the schematics and
send the netlist to the other tool doing the FPGA. These
tools from various manufacturers a
Microsoft is going to drop support for WinNT this year.
You cannot expect any other company to support WinNT any longer.
This doesn't mean it is not going to run, consider it a legal quote - meaningless.
Even if you have problems with supported OS versions, they're not going to help you.
Therefor
I'd download or otherwise get the 30 days trial and try
it under NT. Feedback appreciated.
Rene
Narinder Kumar wrote:
> Protel has no plan to run this new Protel DXP to run under Windows NT.
>
> Not a good thing
* Tra
I recommend the pragmatic approach.
>From Linux experiments I meanswhile have :
1 spare Serial mouse
1 spare PS/2 mouse
1 spare USB Mouse
1 spare Graphic card
1 spare SCSI card
It takes less nerves than your approach and solves
the problem faster - perhaps.
Rene
JaMi Smith wrote:
>
> [ mouse
Usually when you hold that footprint in the pcb editor and
press the 'L' key, the component changes the side, with mirroring
and everything.
Rene
Steve Wiseman wrote:
>
> Hi, all.
> I've been plagued with this on my last 2 double-sided boards, and it's
> making things like assembly instructi
You should get the 30day trial as soon as it comes out and
have a look for yourself.
Rene
Terry Creer wrote:
>
> Actually, now that beta testing is completed (well, according to the press
> release yesterday it is), does that mean that the beta testers can actually
> let the cat out of the bag
I've one seen a multilayer pcb technology where they have
water circulating inside the pcb.
Is the problem getting the heat away or
has it to be that hot there ?
Rene
Michael Biggs wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Anyone run very hot traces @ like 90 degree C on there PWBs and or
> use surface
Adding to the other comments :
Don't forget to move the multilayer to the top of the layer list.
Rene
* Tracking #: 94B4AC7DD83DED45A6D614903264A28926197C48
*
I do have acrobat version 4 and it works for me on sch files.
What are your problems ?
Rene
* Tracking #: 61DB1A95CCE8B7449E1B6862B684DFD434CF06B2
*
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Not really helpfull, I know :
I was never able to have it working somewhat
properly at all. Look at the autoplacer as
'experimental' gadget, and proceed manually
to have the job done.
I admit I lost the patience after a few hours
of trying.
Rene
Danny Bishop wrote:
>
> HI All
>
> I have a
There is Appcad, downloadable for free from HP. It has a section that
lets you
calculate impedances of traces.
Rene
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>From: "Rene Tschaggelar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:34 PM
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A guess :
A worldwide unique number to identify every email ever written ?
Fighting terrorism too ?
Rene
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I agree, it is the same for me. I use Protel a few days a month.
This is just sufficient to memorize a few shortcuts.
I also have troubles justifying ATS over the years. Depending on
the versatility of DXP I might get it and drop out of the program
after a year, or stick with 99SE altogether.
Th
Complaining is one thing and acting another.
While I tend to think the ATS period of 2k$ to be a bit short
with one year, I also have to calculate what this investment
brings.
If I were you, I'd wait and listen to the comments on DXP for a
few months. If the summed comment is : 'great value, v
Well the price was known before, at least as upgrade.
But the price is one thing, what you get for it is another.
You have a job to be done, and there are tools.
Tools that are faster, tools that are simpler and others.
I have no idea, where the new DXP is to be judged.
Time will tell.
With some
I have mounting holes :
M3 = round pad, 250/125mil, plated
I found unplated holes lead to phone calls from the board house.
They asked me whether I really wanted unplated holes, until
I heard unplated holes are additional work for them.
Since it doesn't hurt having them plated, I have them plate
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