RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Lots of myth around WiMAX unlicensed. I've posted about it many times and spoke about it many more, but people still continue to believe the myths. FOLKS, get it through your heads that WiMAX in unlicensed has lots of challenges until they can

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
, 2006 9:41 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Lots of myth around WiMAX unlicensed. I've posted about it many times and spoke about it many more, but people still continue to believe the myths. FOLKS, get it through your heads that WiMAX in unlicensed has lots

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 10:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Where's the disagreement Rich. I said the WiMAX MAC was not ready for UL. I did not say in detail why (at least

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-29 Thread Marketing
PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived George, We are definitely listening. This will be changed going forward. If you need some additional flange nuts (7/16), let me know. Same

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 6:41 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hello Rich, Exactly my point and exactly why users operating

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived George, We are definitely listening. This will be changed going forward. If you need some additional flange nuts (7/16), let me know. Same goes for you Marlon

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - regarding interference - Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Charles Wu
I go to see Mickey Mouse for a few days and look where this thread has gone...wow So, my 2 cents... One of the largest concerns in the license-exempt world is the question of a system's interference robustness. However, before we can get into further detail on the pros and cons of Alvarion VL

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived oh oh. This one's gonna be fun. I'll warn ya now Tom, this is nothing personal. Marlon (509) 982-2181

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived oh oh. This one's gonna be fun

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - regardinginterference - Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Charles Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - regardinginterference - Part 1

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived -regardinginterference - Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Brad Belton
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived -regardinginterference - Part 1 Charles, WOW! Great Post! That covers about everything

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - regardinginterference - Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Rich Comroe
from screwing up your channel access if you were using something like CSMA. Rich - Original Message - From: Charles Wu To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:47 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - regardinginterference - Part 1

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Rich Comroe
, December 28, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon, You get an A+ on your definitions of terms I used. I don't challenge those definitions. However, I challenge the relevance of just about all your responses to my comments. I recognize I may

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived-regardinginterference - Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Rich Comroe
- Original Message - From: Brad Belton To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:16 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived-regardinginterference - Part 1 lol...gotta love it! I'd argue it doesn't have to be only $300 to sell. I'd pay two

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived-regardinginterference - Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:16 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived-regardinginterference - Part 1 lol...gotta love it! I'd argue it doesn't have to be only $300 to sell. I'd pay two or three times

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Tom DeReggi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Canopy's C/I of 3dB is only the 10mbps at signals much stronger than sensitivity. At low signal it's always been higher than 3dB

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived-regardinginterference- Part 1

2006-12-28 Thread Patrick Leary
: Thursday, December 28, 2006 5:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived-regardinginterference- Part 1 Again, I think they're already being made, aren't they? for 3.5GHz. Doesn't have to be final WiMAX ... I presume that all the pre-WiMAX products

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Patrick Leary
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 6:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived I think you'll get your wish. Isn't this what WiMAX is? Yes, but don;t predict we'll see a 900Mhz verion any time soon

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Rich Comroe
) which could be trialed in US 5GHz UNII band? Sigh... Rich - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Lots of myth around WiMAX unlicensed. I've posted

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Patrick Leary
(or prototypes) which could be trialed in US 5GHz UNII band? Sigh... Rich - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Lots of myth around WiMAX

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Rich Comroe
wisp business coalition with sufficient standing to drive manufacturers for what UL wisps need ... (yet). Rich - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary To: WISPA General List Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:53 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-28 Thread Patrick Leary
, December 28, 2006 9:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Where's the disagreement Rich. I said the WiMAX MAC was not ready for UL I hear you. My disagreement is that a UL wisp standard SHOULD have been ready YEARS ago. HiperMAN is different than

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Mac Dearman
: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived ...okay, I went off the deep end there. It was wrong of me to insult the competition because I'm allowing myself to be baited. Sorry folks. Sorry Trango. Ghrr. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Mac Dearman
, December 27, 2006 2:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Patrick, You are a better man than I am - no doubt! You have answered seven thousand questions, retorted seven thousand fallacies and straightened out another seven thousand myths. I

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Brad Belton
with that? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived The Alvarion VL is great for bursty, best effort

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Brad Larson
on the value of an Alvarion rollout...Brad Larson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 7:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived I didn't make any

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Brad, Jon, Patrick. I really think all of you are off the path here As Patrick knows we ARE a scaled canopy operator. I designed this baby from the ground up, everything from the L3 switches, Battery backup, 3rd

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Rich Comroe
. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Comroe Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 5:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Products that are best effort [snip product

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread John Scrivner
with that? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived The Alvarion VL is great for bursty

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Harnish
] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:03 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Brad, I just am getting a bit gun shy now when I see you post a complaint about no polarity this - no dual band that - or whatever your beef of the day

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks for the good post and advice Mac. I hope you are enjoying an excellent Cajun Christmas. I should tell you, our regional engineer, Keith, is a Lu'siana boy. So much so he is now moving back home though he was only in neighboring Texas. Patrick

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Patrick Leary
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 12:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Patrick, You are a better man than I am - no doubt! You have answered seven thousand questions, retorted seven

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-27 Thread Brad Belton
: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived There's no unlicensed product which guarantees business class services in interference. To suggest product A does and product B doesn't is nonsense. I think you've done a good job

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon, I'll answer this with a re-post of a September post that explains, in part, why VL is not just regular CSMA: trim -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived HAH, yeah, I was digging rather irritatedly around the van looking for a 10 mm wrench on Monday as well... same thing. I normally do not carry metric tools out on my install rig... Early

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived The neg 48vDC is simply an option (standard 100-240

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon, I'll answer this with a re-post of a September post that explains, in part, why VL is not just regular CSMA: trim -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Grin Keep your

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived I'd never call you a neophyte, Marlon. A jolly elf maybe, neophyte never... CSMA/CA. But the MAC

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Got it. Thanks. I guess my

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 11:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Got it. Thanks. I guess my beef comes from being a wifi based wisp. I find

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Sorry for the double post...compoooter issues today I guess! -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived This is my point Marlon, your beef is based on erroneous assumptions because you are still are talking like

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Oh Patrick, you couldn't resist Motorola is extremely conservative

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
. Sounds like fun! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Remember VLs will be shipping with support

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Got it. Thanks. I guess my beef comes from

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived My thoughts exactly. If the VL had

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Give the VL dual polarity via software control and you might have something worth taking note about. Throw in dual band ability and now you're on the right track. As it sits now Alvarion is requiring you to visit every site you have a VL radio

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
26, 2006 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Almost as fun as predicting what product or policy Trango will discontinue or otherwise dramatically change next! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Jon Langeler
Marlon, if that's the type of product your looking for, I'll save you the hassle of looking (and you can come back to this post in 5-10 years to make your conclusions on my recommendation) because your best best is to go with canopy or wait until a 5GHz 802.16e solution comes out(not likely

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived marlon

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Larson
is not such a great solution so the hassle is in the details. Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Almost as fun as predicting what product or policy Trango will discontinue or otherwise dramatically change next! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
, 2006 3:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Almost as fun as predicting what product or policy Trango will discontinue or otherwise dramatically change next! Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
+ No Dual Band = NO FLEXIBILITY! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived marlon, I have

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived The Alvarion VL is great for bursty, best effort requirements where 90% of the user applications can wait for that clear air within the noise

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Rich Comroe
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 2:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived The Alvarion VL is great for bursty, best effort requirements

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Products that are best effort [snip product name] end up making guys like us look bad

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Brad Belton
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - Original Message - From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Products

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Jon Langeler
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 4:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived I didn't make any 'claims' and as for 1,000 cpe, that's possible with wifi(although I'd hate to be one

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread Patrick Leary
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 5:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Let's use 900MHz as an example. We deployed Alvarion 900 on multiple

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-26 Thread John Scrivner
The Alvarion VL is great for bursty, best effort requirements where 90% of the user applications can wait for that clear air within the noise floor, but not for committed rate business class service. Best, Brad Brad, I see your almost continuous negative posts about VL and cannot help

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Jon, With a proper channel plan that is just not the case, not to mention things like ATPC. Things like WiMAX use it because there you are dealing with small frequency allocations where every last ounce of efficiency

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-23 Thread Patrick Leary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:50 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Oh Patrick, you couldn't resist Motorola

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks for the validation Marty. I suspect that some might have thought there was a catch. I almost forgot that the cable was pre-terminated. That's one of the things we don't highlight enough -- VL CPE does not require hidden extra things to buy like power supplies, cable, connectors, mounting

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:54 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Patrick, $285 WAS a residential price back in 2004 People now want $185 (or lower

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Right on! Can't wait till I build another business grade system out here. That's what I plan on using

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
code and enlarge that weather seal so a RJ45 connector fits through it? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 10:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
, December 22, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hey Marlon, the price thresholds are there now for residential too. That's a big part of the entire program. A $285 all inclusive CPE with nothing extra to buy, piece together, etc. should fall within the residential

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hey Marlon, the price thresholds are there now for residential too. That's a big part of the entire

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Tom DeReggi
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Right on! Can't wait till I build another business grade system out here

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hello Marlon, VL

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Mike Cowan
Wow Brad, With as long as you have been at this and the knowledge level you have I am surprised you could be so far off the mark on this one. VL does automodulate and has better RF characteristics than their hoppers did. It won't backoff and die when presented with noise and will still

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Brad, I'm not sure that is a fair statement. I agree, TDD/DSSS/Pol Diversity solutions can tackle that noise better, one

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
. Best and Merry Christmas! Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Wow Brad, With as long as you have been

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:05 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Brad, I'm not sure that is a fair statement. I agree, TDD/DSSS/Pol Diversity solutions can tackle

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Brad Belton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Wow back at ya there, Mike! grin Never said the product was less in quality in any

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Mike Cowan
of the RF environment if the link is engineered correctly. Best and Merry Christmas! Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Cowan Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
:39 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hi Brad, The radio will auto modulate down from mod level 8 to 1 when faced with interference. They won't stop transmitting when interference is present however. They do work like any radio out there, two way

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Andrew Niemantsverdriet
I too am interested in what the minium price would be to put up a POP using Alvarion gear. I really like my Trango gear but this stuff sounds awesome and from what I read the Comnet program is just what I am looking for. To compare to build out a Trango POP it costs about 1600 that includes AP, a

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
of these! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:35 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived - Original Message - From

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Agreed, Trango is far from immune from interference, but they do give you a few more tools in your bag to combat it. (1) RX Threshold (2) Dual Polarity (3) Dual Band Alvarion VL offers none of these. If they did

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Right on! Can't wait till I build another business grade system out here. That's what I plan

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Yep, the cable is pre-terminated in some odd non-code compliant pin configuration. Oh, and pre-terminated due to the fact

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived OK then, Patrick, Ed, whoever, is the VL

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived The gaul of us to create a tight

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin, while I've certainly noticed Brad's

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:55 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived It's much closer Patrick. That's for sure. Let run some numbers though. Tranzeo or Inscape Data ap: $450ish. Will deliver an honest 3 to 4 megs to almost anyone at ranges up

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Eric Albert
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 2:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Yep, the cable is pre-terminated in some odd non-code compliant pin configuration. Oh

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Albert Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 5:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hi Brad, The cable we supply with the VL product is terminated following

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Belton
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 11:15 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Yep, the cable is pre-terminated in some odd non-code compliant pin configuration

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Brad Larson
Can anyone else hear the axe grinding in the background.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Hello

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 1:43 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon, You say most of my towers have fewer than 25 users

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
-8200 Direct commercial inquiries to purchasing at neofast dot net - Original Message - From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived Marlon, You say most

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Jon Langeler
With VL, you still run into the issue of self interference in a cellular deployment(many tower sites in a region). The only products I'm aware of that cooperate properly in a cellular deployment are minimally GPS capable, and the advanced products that support things like hand-off or N:1

RE: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

2006-12-22 Thread Patrick Leary
, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 Vonage: 650.641.1243 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion Comnet Radios have arrived

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