Re: [QUAD-L] Roho cushions

[Stacy Harim]

I just hate mine when transferring out of the shower. I sink in the 
middle of the transfer and it's hard when you don't have the pants to help you 
slide. Other than that I like it. I liked my J2 better and I hope I 
eventually get back to one after I heal from the flap I finally decided to 
get.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Quad-list post 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Roho cushions
  i have had same for my whole 7 years... no leaks knock on wood, 
  and my kitty kat often claws it when getting in my lapno 
  leaks[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  


i have had 2 rohos, one for 20 years and one for 25. narry a leak 
in either. i fixed my old bye bye decubidi many times with a standard 
99 cent bicycle tire patch kit.
dave



In a message dated 4/12/2006 8:14:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I love my roho too, but eventually you will probably get a hole or 
  leak.. I had one in my old roho and one in my 4 year old one also. Roho 
  sells them with a repair patch kit.. easy to fix..my chair rehab place 
  charges $150 bucks for the same quick easy fix.Tell me that 
  insurance and medicare/medicaid don't get ripped off for big money 
  
   
  ( Dan )[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Luke, you have the scratch wrapper on your cushion... right?
W



In a message dated 4/12/2006 9:57:58 AM Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I love my Roho. I'm c-5/6 and do all of my own 
  transfers and have no problems. As far as popping; I have a 
  service dog who digs her paws into it several times a day and 
  nota scratch.
  
  Luke

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Stacy Harim]

Those of you that don't go every day, do you still take stool softners 
every day?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Corie Jones 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 1:27 
AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel 
  Program
  
  I don't have any problems with my bowel routine, but I go every 
  day. I take 4 fiber capsules a day and 2 stool softeners and try to eat 
  veggies and fruits daily, plus lots of water. I use the magic bullet 
  also and get in my commode/shower chair about five minutes after I have the 
  suppository inserted. Then I start going about 15 minutes later. 
  I'm usually all done going it 20-30 minutes. After my shower, I get back 
  into bed and have a digital just to make sure the bullet got everything 
  out. Most of the time it does. So my advice, would be to try 
  taking more fiber and try going every day and don't do the digital stim in the 
  commode chair because of the pressure from sitting. Wait until you get 
  into bed and go on your side after 45 minutes or so on the commode. That 
  should save your rectum from a getting so "ripped" up.Good luck!Corie, 
  C4-5, incomplete, 12 1/2 yrs.post
  Steve 
Wickwar wrote:

  
  

  O.K. Guys,
  
  This is my first real post. My bowel program 
  used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've since then had 
  tochange attendants and sometimes now it lasts up to three hours 
  now! My procedure is as follows:
  
  (Metamucil every morning/night, stool softner 
  morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program
  
  1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 10 
  min.
  2. Hot Water to drink
  3. transfer to shower chair over 
  commode
  4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till done 
  (sometimes 3 hours)
  5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
  up!
  
  What can I do to speed up process? Changes I 
  can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help 
  tremendously
  
  Steve

Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel Program

[Stacy Harim]

I had that tube inserted to my abdomen and flushed water through but the 
tube came out. I plan on getting it again when I go get my bladder surgery 
again. I have to get this flap taken care of first then that. My 
bowel program takes forever without it.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim 
  Syfert 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:15 
PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Never Ending Bowel 
  Program
  
  Things picked up for me when I started downing a tbls of generic 
  metamucil at night. 
  
  Tim
  http://thequadlink.com 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


I'm with you on this part..."This is 
probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect of life in a 
chair, " I use a quart or two of water in a fountain about 
every 4 or 5 days. I xfr to the jon, insert tube, fill the attached 
legbag and hang it on a hook. Works in about 5 minutes and is complete 
in about 20. I've had a problem with this (dismounting b/4 all water 
was expelled) only about twice in the past 8 years. Everything used to 
go by gravity alone before that but I never knew when the urge would 
hit. I attempted to go every morning but still sometimes got caught 
off guard out somewhere where you never know what accommodations you'll have 
to deal with - and I work better at this nekked in my own pottyroom on my 
own time.
Dave www.daveoconnell.com C3, 
inc, 1967




In a message dated 4/9/2006 3:38:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello and welcome! 
  
  If, as you say "she's tearing me up" then that could be part of 
  the problem. Perhaps the stool isn't coming down because you have 
  bleeding tissue inside your rectum. For me the less stim the better, 
  but I'm also able to bear down by breathing hard too.
  
  This is probably the single most frustrating and uncomfortable aspect 
  of life in a chair, at least it is for me.
  
  Peace,
  
  River 
  
  

  
  
O.K. Guys,

This is my first real post. My bowel 
program used to take about an hour with dig-stim every 5 min. I've 
since then had tochange attendants and sometimes now it lasts 
up to three hours now! My procedure is as follows:

(Metamucil every morning/night, stool 
softner morning/night, 4 senekot evening before program

1. Magic Bullet in bed and stretch/wait 
10 min.2. Hot Water to 
drink
3. transfer to shower chair over 
commode
4. attendant dig-stim. every 5 min till 
done (sometimes 3 hours)
5. Few accidents, but she's rippin me 
up!

What can I do to speed up process? 
Changes I can make? Things to try? Any suggestions would help 
tremendously

Steve
  
  =


  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

I tore a whole in my cover as well. I just can't wait to heal from 
this flap well so I can eventually get a firmer cushion down the road a 
bit. I pray. LOL!! I hate the roho only for the reason of transfers. It's 
very difficult and I have arm strength. I can't even imagine how hard it 
must be for you all. Well I remember slightly but I had a firmer cushion 
when I was regaining arm strength and learning to transfer.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list 
  post ; ~LittleQuad~ 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 6:23 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  After I went to a ROHO cushion I had to stop my transfers alone 
  because I tore the first cushion trying to transfer with a slid board.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  




Im in a manual chair but use a roho cushion now and that is my issue 
with the transfers. The board gets caught in the material instead of 
between my butt and the seat and then once I get to the chair, I'm sunken 
only when I'm half in the chair. Anyone else with roho's that transfer 
have that issue?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Quad-list post 
  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:34 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? 
  What kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a 
  electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each! 
  Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

I just cant grasp the concept of a front transfer. Just something I 
was never informed about.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Win 
  Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 7:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  Back when I first heard of it they called it a "Granny Scoot." That 
  just about describes they way it is done.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
  Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  




Front? How is it possible?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Win 
  
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about 
  transfers from the front, instead of the side. Is that right 
  LittleQuad? I'm like you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the 
  side. Which means no need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to 
  toilet and bathtub, I do my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove 
  footrests for those.Win C7-T1At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien 
  wrote:I transfer into a power chair. With 
  the armrest all the way backand behind the cushion, there is 
  no obstruction to slidingd! irectly onto the 
  cushion. What do you mean about legs what legs?Here is the 
  url for my chair notice the footrests are not in 
  theway at 
  allhttp://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
  prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369Let's 
  figure this outBrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 
  12:34 PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who 
  transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs?What kind do 
  you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do itinto a 
  electric wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs 
  each!Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Answering about transfer bench

[Stacy Harim]

I also have a bench with an opening. I get it all done in one shot. Use the 
bucket, remove it then shower. So much easier than the toilet then to the 
shower.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: RONALD L PRACHT 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:38 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Answering about 
  transfer bench
  
  Well I use a Guardian transfer bench with the commode opening . Its an 
  older model and it has a nice tall back. I just take the pail put a plastic 
  bag in it and im ready to go. This way I can watch tv whileI get the 
  routine done. Ive thought of starting to use my guardian rolling shower chair 
  for the routines but havent as of yet. On my temperpedic bed I bought the 
  matress cover from them and also use a plastic cover from walmart on top of 
  that. I seldom have an accident since I use majic bullet suppossitories, but 
  anythings possible so I protect that expensive matress. I straight cathe 
  myself when needed so I dont have any tube issues. My spincter muscle holds 
  tight until I insert a tube which is a plus.
  
  
   
  Ron c7 8 years in quadadise

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

Not with this pressure sore I've been fighting. I did great with the 
J2.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brien 
  To: Stacy Harim 
  Cc: Win ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; ~LittleQuad~ 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:05 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  Howbout a firm cushion so that you are closer in height to your 
  wheelchair when you sit on lower spaces? 
  
  Brien
  
  On Apr 2, 2006, at 6:42 AM, Stacy Harim wrote:
  

I'm T 7 
with a long torso so my transfers are just OK. I scoot more than up 
and over. I cannot transfer to a couch bc I'll never get 
out. I have very strong arms but can't get the depression to pick my 
butt up unless I have my arm rests or some sort of blocks next to 
me.

Stacy

  - Original Message 
  -
  From: 
  ~LittleQuad~
  To: 
  Win ; 
  quad-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: 
  Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:57 PM
  Subject: Re: 
  [QUAD-L] Transfers
  I 
  fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, have minimum 
  tricepsWin 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  Stupid question here 
but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your fractures were? or is 
that your level of function? For example, I 
broke c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's 
where the spinal cord got 
severed.).One 
thing that I think makes a big difference in how someone is able 
to 
transfer, is the length of their arms :S I've seen quads get up 
off 
the floor and back into their chairs by themselves, and have been 
just amazed. But, those 
that I've seen manage to do that, always seem to 
have LONG arms. I am able to do all my transfers by myself, except 
there is no way I can get 
off the floor back into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 
02:30 PM 4/1/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do 
my own transfers to bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to 
toilet chair and back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at 
times and we have a big sofa chair in the  family room I can 
transfer into and have my legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all 
my time in a manual Tilite chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 
c-6 incomplete 5yrs post this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal 
Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ 
To: Quad-list post 
Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 
21:15:13 -0800 (PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] 
TransfersHow many of you can 
transfer alone? if so what level are you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

Front? How is it possible?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Win 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  I'm not sure, but I think LittleQuad is talking about transfers 
  from the front, instead of the side. Is that right LittleQuad? I'm like 
  you Brien, and do my transfer to the bed from the side. Which means no 
  need to remove footrests. However, to transfer to toilet and bathtub, I do 
  my transfer frontwise, so I have to remove footrests for those.Win 
  C7-T1At 05:09 PM 4/4/2006, Brien wrote:I transfer 
  into a power chair. With the armrest all the way 
  backand behind the cushion, there is no obstruction 
  to slidingdirectly onto the cushion. What do you mean 
  about legs what legs?Here is the url for my chair notice 
  the footrests are not in theway at 
  allhttp://www.invacare.com/cgi-bin/imhqprd/inv_catalog/ 
  prod_cat_detail.jsp?s=0prodID=TDX5catOID=-536885369Let's 
  figure this outBrienOn Apr 2, 2006, at 12:34 
  PM, ~LittleQuad~ wrote:Those of you who transfer, I'm 
  assuming you are in manual chairs?What kind do you use? I am 
  obviously not going to be able to do itinto a electric wheelchair. 
  The legs are like 8 lbs 
each!Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers Chairs

[Stacy Harim]

Im in a manual chair but use a roho cushion now and that is my issue with 
the transfers. The board gets caught in the material instead of between my 
butt and the seat and then once I get to the chair, I'm sunken only when I'm 
half in the chair. Anyone else with roho's that transfer have that 
issue?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Quad-list post 
  Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 3:34 
PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers  
  Chairs
  
  Those of you who transfer, I'm assuming you are in manual chairs? What 
  kind do you use? I am obviously not going to be able to do it into a electric 
  wheelchair. The legs are like 8 lbs each! 
  Thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Move your car please...again

[Stacy Harim]

I've been going to the wound care center at the hospital where the parking 
is crzy bad. I often take two spots if I can find them or one way on the 
end and have gotten blocked in 3 times in two weeks. It sucks to ask 
strangers to back my van out for me. I left not nice letters on their cars 
but like its going to make a difference. I just now keep tape in my car 
leaving a note to please not block me in.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David 
  O'Connell 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 7:44 
PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Move your car 
  please...again
  
  i got blocked just today by someone parking partially in the yellow hash 
  marks between our 2 cars. a few weeks ago, i took 2 spots way out at the 
  end of the lot. they wrote me a warning for using 2 
  spots i answered back with this letter..." 
  
  laza Del Rio Management 
  Corp. 
  Dave O'Connell
  9401 W. Thunderbird Rd. 
  Suite 200 
  5101 West Beryl Ave
  Peoria Arizona 85381 
   
  Glendale 85302
  
  To Whom it may 
  concern,
  
   
  I drive a van with handicapped plates and a ramp which unloads from the 
  right side of my vehicle.  This 
  ramp requires about eight feet of space on that side to allow room for me to 
  maneuver my electric wheelchair in and out of my van. I'm relatively independent in my 
  travels until someone parks beside me and blocks access to my ramp.  I usually find all designated 
  handicapped spots up front taken whenever I go anywhere and I don't really 
  mind rolling in from the far end of the parking lot.  I park crooked way out at the end to 
  make sure no one can block me out and I find that usually works, although not 
  always. 
  
  I'm thinking the 
  handicapped license plates or the hand controls easily viewable through the 
  window would give your parking lot attendants a clue that I need extra room to 
  enter and exit my vehicle.  
  If those clues don't help, then the missing driver's seat or the ramp 
  up against the sliding door might help them figure out I need extra 
  room.
  
  I find it admirable you 
  are vigorously policing your lots for violations but if you could sprinkle a 
  little common sense in with your enthusiasm, possibly those of us who need the 
  extra room can take two spots out at the end of your lot where few people park 
  anyway without getting cited with a violation. 
  
  Perhaps you could mark 
  off a few extra wide spots way out at the end of your lots for those of us who 
  need extra room?  The extra space 
  will need a bright yellow post that will physically block someone from parking 
  there as there are those who park on yellow hashed areas anyway because "they 
  just don't need the extra room."  
  (yes, that really happens too.)
  
  Regards,
  Dave O'Connell 
  On 3/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
I went to Dunkin Dounuts with my Mom 
today and parked in a handicapped space BUT the can next to me, also in a 
handicapped space, blocked the ramp for me to get onto the sidewalk. My Mom 
found the owner of the car under a hair dryer, OK, so her hairdresser backed 
the car so I could get up the ramp THEN moved it backto the EXACT 
spotand block me again. I had to explain to the hairdresser to "just 
leave the car backed up enough for me to go up and down the ramp" Duhh 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

I'm T 7 with a long torso so my transfers are just OK. I scoot more 
than up and over. I cannot transfer to a couch bc I'll never get 
out. I have very strong arms but can't get the depression to pick my butt 
up unless I have my arm rests or some sort of blocks next to me.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Win ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 4:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  I fractured C-4,5,7 but function on R as C6/7 and L as a C-5, 
  have minimum tricepsWin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Stupid 
question here but when you say you're c5-c6, is that where your 
fractures were? or is that your level of function? For example, I broke 
c6-c7, but my level of function is at c7-t1 (I guess that's where the 
spinal cord got severed.).One thing that I think makes a big 
difference in how someone is able to transfer, is the length of their 
arms :S I've seen quads get up off the floor and back into their chairs 
by themselves, and have been just amazed. But, those that I've seen 
manage to do that, always seem to have LONG arms. I am able to do all my 
transfers by myself, except there is no way I can get off the floor back 
into my chair if I happen to fall.WinAt 02:30 PM 4/1/2006, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Littlequad, I do my own transfers to 
bed to chair from chair to  bed also from bed to toilet chair and 
back, I also get tired of  being in my chair at times and we have a 
big sofa chair in the  family room I can transfer into and have my 
legs put up on the  outtum. I spend all my time in a manual Tilite 
chair and love it,  its great i'm a c-5 c-6 incomplete 5yrs post 
this March 17th 45yrs old, AZOriginal 
Message-From: ~LittleQuad~ 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Quad-list post 
Sent: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:15:13 -0800 
(PST)Subject: [QUAD-L] TransfersHow many of you can 
transfer alone? if so what level are 
  you?thanks

Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: [SCIC] New Drug for Nerve Pain

[Stacy Harim]

I love lyrica. My pain levels are so much better. My pain was 
so bad, I was also taking methadone. I am not on that anymore and only on 
200mg vs. 1200mg of neurontin 3x a day plus the methadone. It's great 
stuff.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Brennan 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 10:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: [SCIC] New 
  Drug for Nerve Pain
  I appreciate this information as i suffer neuropathic pain 
  immensely.I take Neurontin and although it kicks my pain levels down a few 
  notchesi am never completely pain 
  free. 
  Rob[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Sun, 26 Mar 
2006 21:00:13 ESTSubject: Re: [SCIC] New Drug for Nerve Pain! 

Marie,

Hank has been on Lyrica for several months now instead of the 
Neurontin, big difference! The pain is gone. I am sure that I shared this 
info to the group several months ago, but got no response. Oh well, it 
really works! Our Neurologist said that the study that they have had at the 
UOM. Is almost 100%.


Deb wife 
to Hank c3-4 incomplete 2.5yrs post 
 



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Re: [QUAD-L] Being ignored

[Stacy Harim]

Whenever I go to the store or restaurant, I first ask them how they are 
doing and that usually breaks the ice. I rarely get ignored because I 
speak up first. Occassionally if I am with someone, it is them that gets 
the attention from these people bc they think they aren'tmy friend but there to 
help me. When people stare, I say hello. I don't let it get to me 
but it sounds like you had a frustrating day. I'm sorry you had to go 
through that.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:16 
PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Being ignored
  
  I was out today and got totally ignored, I HATE IT WITH A 
  PASSION!!! In Sears the cashier asked my friend "Is that all there is?" I had 
  the freaking money in my paw. Then,I was at Atlanta bread company "Is 
  there anything else?" Yes, I would like to get some coffee. Then in a health 
  food store.
   Do you guys get this shit too?
   
Bobbie

Re: [QUAD-L] Being ignored

[Stacy Harim]

I knock over crap all the time. I have complained to managers. 
At the shopping center that has the cvs where I get my scrps there is a food 
lion next door. That is the only area where the curn and street meet 
flat.almost to the cvs. They have carts lined up so I have to go up to 
food lion and go through a tiny ass little isle between the carts and If people 
are there, I have to wait for them to walk through. I complained about it 
because it isn't right that someone in a chair should have to go all the way up 
and back down. I don't care about me because I am strong enough to make 
the push but I told the manager, what about people that are weak, have ms, 
are old, etc. They shouldn't have to do it. Of course nothing has 
changed. I suggested at least breaking up the carts to make a hole 
inbetween so people could get through. I'm writing corporate next. I 
am going to ride by tomorrow to see if anything is done and if not, I'm going to 
the big dogs thes if nothing is done, I am going to contact the independent 
living center. They really pursue things like that. Verbal, if 
nothing is done, a letter giving a warning if nothing is done then they will 
face court, fines, etc. I've had them do that in the local mall. 
Half of the stores have displays right in front and I can't even get in. I 
am not even going to mention the town I live in. Shopping is so awful its 
crazy when can't get into a lot of the s tores.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 11:42 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Being ignored
  
  
  I get that crap from most stores. I particularly enjoy, "Ahhem, nobody 
  can get past you in the isle, Sir!" Iusually reply that I was hoping 
  they were going to move their fat butts first, however, I hate to be rude. 
  Sometimes I even forget to pay. I have knocked down some elaborate 
  displays in disgust. 
  
  john
  
  In a message dated 3/19/2006 5:16:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I was out today and got totally ignored, I HATE IT WITH A 
PASSION!!! In Sears the cashier asked my friend "Is that all there is?" I 
had the freaking money in my paw. Then,I was at Atlanta bread company 
"Is there anything else?" Yes, I would like to get some coffee. Then in a 
health food store.
 Do you guys get this shit too?
 
  Bobbie
  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin

[Stacy Harim]

My pain level is actually so much better with lyrica. I was taking 
sooo much neurontin and methadone. I am now off of the methadone 
completely. I did go through a few weeks of headaches after getting off of 
the neurontin but not that they are over, it's worth it,

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brien 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: quadlist Quad-List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:55 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin
  Lyrica is the newest drug for neuropathic pain. It has 
  worked better for me than neurontin ever did! 
  
  best,
  
  Brien
  
  On Mar 9, 2006, at 12:42 PM, Sue Lindequist wrote:
  Has anyone found a naturalalternative to 
neurontin ? I am having serious side effects from it, eg. gall stones, 
nausea and weight loss.Aloha, Cathy from kauaii 


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Re: [QUAD-L] anti-infectives

[Stacy Harim]

I take vitamin C and don't see a difference. What mg's are you 
using?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:08 
AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
  anti-infectives
  
  vitamin C along with mendelamine creates a hostile environment for most 
  critters. It is still important to take acidophilus while on these types of 
  drugs. It helps replace the good bacteria. Any antibioticwill usually 
  wipe out the goodbacteria with the bad. It is always a good idea to make 
  sure your change inmedicine doesn't stir up massamounts of 
  sediment and cause a clog. Irrigating is smart because it really does take out 
  any high volumes of infection and you can understand what bug and strength of 
  bug you have. You can do your own testing for Ph. I have used a mild vinegar 
  solution in the sterile water but not when looking for test urine. Oh, 
  rinsewith sterile water after you rinse with vinegar. You could 
  administer other mild anti-biotics this way too. But I didn't tell you that. 
  I'mwhite vinegar should chemically break down the stuff that stones are 
  made of. But your bladder will disolve before the stones do if you actually 
  rinsed with the amount it would take to reduce a large stone. When you talk to 
  your doctor, don't be shy about wanting certain drugs available and 
  why.Try to get as clean catch as possible. You're getting very intimate 
  germs from whoever helps you. If you can keep it with only one or two people 
  you are best off. Catching germs from family seems less virulent and survival. 
  Day cares are radioactive! So, you can imagine what the b'girls leave you 
  with. If you have a wife or girlfriend that takes care of your catheter,, 
  well, you lucky SOB. I've had infections that put me in an ambulance in under 
  10 hours. It's like a house with mice. You can knock down the population but 
  you will still need the traps. Even in "clean" caths, sterilize everything 
  your going to use. Have your aid press onyour bladder as she/he removes 
  the catheter. Do not let up until the catheter is completely out.You can 
  trigger you own bladder spasmsto empty your bladder by gently pounding 
  your lower abdomen. I repeat, GENTLY. To much compression can damage your 
  ureters and once your back flowing to your kidneys, wellyou have an end 
  stage problem. 
  Did you know that you can attach bed bags so they drain to each other? 
  Handy tip if your in a hospital where they don't know what they are doing. It 
  sure seems like they would have some kind of external catheter for women by 
  now. They havesome new adhesives that someone should be testing. 
  I hope that's some help?
  
  
  john

[QUAD-L] problems with parking

[Stacy Harim]

When I went for my dr. appt. at the hosptital there wasn't any 
parking. I found one on the end so my lift could go down. Some 
jackass parked next to me so I had to get a stranger drive it out for me. 
The thing is the guy made his own spot on the end bc there wasn't 
anyparking lines.Thank God he was nice but you never know what could 
of happened. I even have a sticker on the side of my van asking for 
courtisy bc of the lift. I left a not so nice note on his car. I 
usually take two spots if I have to so I don't have to worry about the 
lift.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:08 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] NJ Handicap 
  parking
  
  In a message dated 2/27/2006 4:54:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  can practically do 10mph, I could care less what spaces are 
available. Disabled parking spots are truly for people who have much 
difficulty getting from the car to the building. I am a quad and am 
very proud not to use disabled parking spaces because I don't need 
them. I am sure everybody has an opinion on disabled spaces but 
pregnant women, for the most part, have acceptable mobility and dont need 
em. 

I picture somebody who can barely with a walker/cane walk as eligible 
fordisabled spaces!
  I too have a power chair and a van w/a lift. My main concern  only 
  really, is that when I return to it, I can get IN IT! I park away from all 
   take 2 slots so I'll have plenty of room. My Mom is on oxygen and she 
  and others like her NEED those slots!
  
  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] AGE

[Stacy Harim]

I'm 31 and 5 yrs in May post.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 5:11 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] AGE
  
  In a message dated 2/27/2006 1:25:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Michelle Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 
I 
  was just wondering how old everyone was on this site. I thought it would 
  be interesting to knowI'm 36 and my fiance (C6/7 quad)' is 
  40.
  I'm a C6/7, 15 yrs post  49.
  

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] parents getting older

[Stacy Harim]





I still have a ways to go with that I hope but I fear that she will soon be 
in a wheelchair herself and I just wish that I could do more to physically help 
her. It kills me to think about it.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:47 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] parents getting 
  older
  
  
  Dear Stacy,
  Not all nursing homes are the 7th layer of hell. You can check on them. 
  Talk to people that live in them. Some have really great people both working 
  there and living in them. I do feel for you. I do hope you resolve the problem 
  in a way that your mom is comfortable with too. 
  john
  
  In a message dated 2/25/2006 2:26:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
I have had my Mom up here the last few weeks. My brother 
commited suicide and it was really a stressful time. I also have 
another brother who is bi polar in prison and my oldest brother is self 
absorbed and doesn't call or talk to anyone.

All that aside, my Mom is physically not doing well. She is only 
54 but has had a stroke on one side and broke her hip on the other 
side. She can't get around very well and has a very hard time getting 
into my van. I'm concerned about her when she gets older. I’m 
the responsible one out of the kids and I have always thought that I could 
never let my parents go to a nursing home. If her boyfriend goes 
before her or they split up, then I'm at a loss as to what I would do to 
help her. I can't do anything for her and it eats me up. When 
she had her stroke, I was the only one that flew down to Florida. 
While I was there, I got her house in order by cleaning, organizing and 
making things easier for her. Now that I'm in the chair, I cant do 
those things for her and it eats me up inside to think she'll end up in a 
nursing home.

Has anyone else had any thoughts like that?

Stacy
  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Dating Marrige

[Stacy Harim]

Now its 4 and a half years for me and I have yet to have a boyfriend. 
I dated one guy for a short time last year and one date a couple of weeks 
ago. We didn't have a spark so no more dates. I find it hard where I 
live and have had issues with the chair.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:37 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Dating  
  Marrige
  
  Hi All,
   I am curious as to how soon after your injury did you 
  start dating again? Who was married before and did the injury cause your 
  partner to split? 
   Bobbie ~ married 13 years with Pete 23 years meet him in a 
  bar 9 years post I started dating, at 17, immeditly-like in the hospital 
  with a PT student

Re: [QUAD-L] what to do about hemroids

[Stacy Harim]

I take something called rootin from gnc. It shrinks them. I 
don't know what it is supposed to be used for but works for the hemmroids. 
I haven't had any problems since I started taking it.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim 
  Syfert 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:14 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] what to do about 
  hemroids
  
  I cleared mine up with grape seed extract and generic metamucil.
  
  Tim
  http://thequadlink.com 
  
  Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks 
Dave!I just went to those sites and I think I might have internal 
hemorrhoids. Lately, I've been having a Hell of a time taking a dump while 
sitting up - no problem while lying down. This is one of the symptoms of 
roids because they are affected by gravity. Same with passing gas - sitting 
up, not so good - lying down, no problem. DanAt 12:07 PM 
2/27/06 -0800, David K. Kelmer said something that elicited my 
response: 
Hi Derrick,Here are a couple 
  of Sites with great info on hemorrhoids. http://www.medicinenet.com/hemorrhoids/page4.htmhttp://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/hemorrhoids.htmlI 
  hope they help.With Love,CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 
  Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA Derrick 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
Has anyone had a problem with bleeding hemroids? 
How did you heal? 

I have had these for months. Regular hemirod cream during and after 
bowel care is not helping? 
Thanks, 
Derrick c5/6 
  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] parents getting older

[Stacy Harim]





I know this is hard on my parents too. My Dad talks about it 
still. He mentions that he expected something to happen to hiim before any 
of us. When I was so sick in the hospital, I'll never forget the hurt in 
their eyes for the rest of my life.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:36 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] parents getting 
  older
  
  
  Hello all,
  
  I visit my son approx 8 hrs daily in a nursing home 
  (we’ve yet to work the maze for getting him home). He is C-1 SCI. Top among the many emotional issues we 
  are challenged with is his feelings of helplessness for any signs of 
  frustration, fatigue, illness, etc. from me. This only makes it more difficult for 
  me, in that I do not wish him to feel he is in any way a burden on me, guilty 
  that he is unable to assist me, or any such negative emotion challenging his 
  ability or desire to hang in there. I must say that, overall, the greatest 
  lesson for me has been the depth of Love’s true meaning that the rest of 
  humanity misses—a meaning that paralysis compels one to grasp and live 
  by. I have learned that the 
  extent to which the rest of humanity falls short of this wisdom is a 
  measurement of its own paralysis. 
  Someday—hopefully soon—we’ll all get it: LOVE IS ALL THERE IS!!! 
  
  Irene 

Re: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents getting older

[Stacy Harim]

That's pretty much how I feel. It only just hit me this last visit 
with my Mom. She is only 54 and doing extremely poorly in the getting 
around dept. Nothing I can do to help. It sucks

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: William 
  Willis 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:50 
  PM
  Subject: FW: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents 
  getting older
  My father died two years ago and now my mother lives alone. 
  She is 73. As her only son, I feel that taking care of her, the house, 
  yard, etc. is my responsibility.Of course, I can do none of it. It makes 
  me so angry and depressed that I could scream.From: "Stacy 
  Harim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  quad-list@eskimo.com, "William 
  Willis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents getting olderDate: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 19:35:11 
  -0500Thatâ?Ts how I feel. It breaks my heart to see her 
  going down hill and there is nothing I can do. It makes me 
  miserable to even think about it.Stacy 
  - Original Message - From: William Willismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.commailto:quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:28 PM Subject: FW: 
  Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents getting 
  older ditto. Makes you feel 
  useless as shit and worth even less. From: 
  "Jeremy Dickinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quadlist quad-list@eskimo.commailto:quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents getting older Date: 
  Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:31:49 -0500 
   -- Forwarded message 
  -- From: Jeremy Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Date: Feb 25, 2006 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] parents 
  getting older To: Silas [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sit on my ass and worrry. That is all you can do. I have friends 
  that get sick or my family get sick and I can't hug them, 
  go to the store for them, or make them soup. It 
  sucks. On 2/25/06, Silas [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: Hey Stacy, My 
  mother is getting older too, ive got 4 sisters that will take care 
  of her. Still it worries the shit out of 
  me, being stuck in this frigging chair and can't do 
  nothing to help. Same worry with my kids, if 
  something happens what could I do to 
  help. A couple nights ago one of my sisters 
  had it out with her husband, all hell broke 
  louse and she ended up going to jail. They 
  wouldn't release her because she was threatening to kill 
  her self, I had to set here like a bucket of 
  shit and do nothing but worry till I made 
  myself sick. If I wasn't paralyzed I could have settled her 
  ass down before it went that 
  far. I feel so helpless somtimes, what do the rest 
  of you all do when shit happens and you have 
  to set and waite instead of being able to 
  help. Worry wart. Silas 
   - Original Message - 
  From: Stacy Harim To: 
  Quad-List Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 11:25 
  AM Subject: [QUAD-L] parents getting 
  older  I have had my Mom 
  up here the last few weeks. My brother commited 
  suicide and it was really a stressful 
  time. I also have another brother who is bi 
  polar in prison and my oldest brother is self absorbed and doesn't call 
  or talk to anyone. 
   All that aside, my Mom is physically not doing 
  well. She is only 54 but 
  has had a stroke on one side and broke her hip on 
  the other side. She can't 
  get around very well and has a very hard time 
  getting into my van. I'm concerned about her 
  when she gets older. I'm the responsible one out 
  of the kids and I have 
  always thought that I could never let my parents go to 
  a nursing home. If her boyfriend goes 
  before her or they split up, then I'm at a 
  loss as to what I would do to help her. I can't do anything for 
  her and it eats me up. When she had her 
  stroke, I was the only one that flew down to 
  Florida. While I was there, I got her house in order by 
  cleaning, organizing and making things easier 
  for her. Now that I'm in the chair, I 
  cant do those things for her and it eats me up inside to think she'll 
  end up in a nursing 
  home.  Has anyone else had any 
  thoughts like that?  
  Stacy -- Jeremy - 
  23 - Florida C-3 Quad since 4/12/01 OI 
  Type IV since 7/29/82 
  -- Jeremy - 23 - Florida C-3 Quad 
  since 4/12/01 OI Type IV since 
  7/29/82

[QUAD-L] parents getting older

[Stacy Harim]

I have had my Mom up here the last few weeks. My brother 
commited suicide and it was really a stressful time. I also have another 
brother who is bi polar in prison and my oldest brother is self absorbed and 
doesn't call or talk to anyone.

All that aside, my Mom is physically not doing well. She is only 54 
but has had a stroke on one side and broke her hip on the other side. She 
can't get around very well and has a very hard time getting into my van. 
I'm concerned about her when she gets older. I’m the responsible one out 
of the kids and I have always thought that I could never let my parents go to a 
nursing home. If her boyfriend goes before her or they split up, then I'm 
at a loss as to what I would do to help her. I can't do anything for her 
and it eats me up. When she had her stroke, I was the only one that flew 
down to Florida. While I was there, I got her house in order by cleaning, 
organizing and making things easier for her. Now that I'm in the chair, I 
cant do those things for her and it eats me up inside to think she'll end up in 
a nursing home.

Has anyone else had any thoughts like that?

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] NJ Handicap parking

[Stacy Harim]

I rarely use the handicapped spots. Usually the lift area isnt 
big enough but I know it's not going to kill me to push a lil further. I 
need the exercise anyways. If you have an electric chair then it shouldn't 
be that big of a deal IMO. I just park a lil far away and take up two 
spots. I'd rather see the spot go to someone elderly that has a hard time 
walking. 

Many women have problems with their pregnancies. I know my Mom had a 
hard one and so did my Aunt. My Aunt had bed rest twice.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: QuadPirate 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; 'Miss 
  Liz' ; Steve Oldaker 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 4:28 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] NJ Handicap 
  parking
  
  

  
Steve did you know they issue motorcycles disabled permits 
too?

Mark

---Original 
Message---


From: Steve Oldaker
Date: 02/25/06 
15:10:04
To: 'QuadPirate'; quad-list@eskimo.com; 'Miss Liz'
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] 
NJ Handicap parking

If one armed people are actually being issued 
handicap parking permits it is 
absolutely ridiculous. There is no justifiable reason by any 
stretch of the imagination unless they have another disability which 
effects their mobility.

Steve



From: QuadPirate 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 
25, 2006 3:33 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.com; Miss 
LizSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] NJ Handicap 
parking


  
  

  That's cool butI would think it's the doctors 
  recommendation that should dictatewho is deserving of a 
  disabled permit? 
  I mean maybe not all regular pregnancies deserve these 
  permits but I'm sure some are when you think about it they give 
  one armed people disabled permitsbut I've never seen any 
  complaints about that.
  
  Mark
  
  ---Original 
  Message---
  
  
  From: Miss Liz
  Date: 02/25/06 
  13:51:36
  To: QuadPirate; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: 
  [QUAD-L] NJ Handicap parking
  
  Dear Mark,
  
  Handicap parking in my area CT,NY,and NJ is 
  totally abused by fake permits, people just running in etc. 
  I usually park across two spots and hope no one hits me as they 
  are backing out as I traverse the parking lot.
  
  Some stores have "Expectant moms" spots. 
  Great!! Pregnancy is NOT a disability requiring a handicap 
  permit.
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  QuadPirate 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; Miss Liz 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 
  2006 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] NJ 
  Handicap parking
  
  


  
I'm curious to why this is bugging you?

Mark

---Original 
Message---


From: Miss Liz
Date: 
02/25/06 13:29:34
To: Quad-List
Subject: 
[QUAD-L] NJ Handicap parking

The local news WCBS_TV did a story @ NJ legislature 
wanting to put a bill through to let pregnant women park in 
handicap spaces. I am trying to find out what idiot 
proposed this idea so I may write a letter. Has anyone heard 
of this? 


  

  
  



  
  

  


  
  
  


  

  
  

Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents getting older

[Stacy Harim]





That’s how I feel. It breaks my heart to see her going down hill and 
there is nothing I can do. It makes me miserable to even think about 
it.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: William 
  Willis 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:28 
  PM
  Subject: FW: Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents 
  getting older
  ditto. Makes you feel useless as shit and worth even 
  less.From: "Jeremy Dickinson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  quadlist quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: 
  Fwd: [QUAD-L] parents getting olderDate: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:31:49 
  -0500-- Forwarded message --From: Jeremy 
  Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Feb 25, 
  2006 5:30 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] parents getting olderTo: Silas 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sit 
  on my ass and worrry. That is all you can do. I have friends thatget sick 
  or my family get sick and I can't hug them, go to the storefor them, or 
  make them soup. It sucks.On 2/25/06, Silas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:Hey Stacy,My mother is getting older too, ive got 4 
  sisters that will take care ofher. Still it worries the shit out 
  of me, being stuck in this friggingchair and can't do nothing to 
  help. Same worry with my kids, if somethinghappens what could I 
  do to help. A couple nights ago one of my sisters hadit out with 
  her husband, all hell broke louse and she ended up going tojail. 
  They wouldn't release her because she was threatening to kill herself, 
  I had to set here like a bucket of shit and do nothing but worry tillI 
  made myself sick. If I wasn't paralyzed I could have settled her ass 
  downbefore it went that far. I feel so helpless 
  somtimes, what do the rest ofyou all do when shit happens and you have 
  to set and waite instead of beingable to help.Worry 
  wart. Silas- Original Message -From: 
  Stacy HarimTo: Quad-ListSent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 
  11:25 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] parents getting olderI 
  have had my Mom up here the last few weeks. My brother commited 
  suicideand it was really a stressful time. I also have another 
  brother who is bipolar in prison and my oldest brother is self 
  absorbed and doesn't call ortalk to anyone.All that 
  aside, my Mom is physically not doing well. She is only 54 but 
  hashad a stroke on one side and broke her hip on the other 
  side. She can't getaround very well and has a very hard 
  time getting into my van. I'mconcerned about her when she gets 
  older. I'm the responsible one out of thekids and I have 
  always thought that I could never let my parents go to anursing 
  home. If her boyfriend goes before her or they split up, then 
  I'mat a loss as to what I would do to help her. I can't do 
  anything for herand it eats me up. When she had her stroke, I 
  was the only one that flewdown to Florida. While I was there, I 
  got her house in order by cleaning,organizing and making things easier 
  for her. Now that I'm in the chair, Icant do those things for 
  her and it eats me up inside to think she'll end upin a 
  nursing home.Has anyone else had any thoughts like 
  that?Stacy--Jeremy - 23 - FloridaC-3 Quad 
  since 4/12/01OI Type IV since 7/29/82--Jeremy - 23 - 
  FloridaC-3 Quad since 4/12/01OI Type IV since 
7/29/82

[QUAD-L] neurontin and lyrica

[Stacy Harim]

Has anyone had any headaches after getting off of neurontin and taking 
lyrica?

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin and lyrica

[Stacy Harim]

I'm just wondering if the headaches are from not taking the neurontin since 
I have taken it so long. I did go off of it slowly but I've had a 
consistant headache for about a week.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Fragile 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 9:00 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] neurontin and 
  lyrica
  I've recently tried both, still on the Lyrica. Neither 
  caused a headache, just an upset stomach and extreme drowsiness. Neither 
  relieved any of my pain.
  On 2/23/06, Stacy 
  Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  
Has anyone had any headaches after getting off of neurontin and taking 
lyrica?

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] Colonoscopy

[Stacy Harim]

When I went for the mitrofanoff, I stayed at the hospital because of the 
concerns but my problem was I never started going. They ended up putting 
me back in bed after hours of sitting up and then they had to give me an 
enema. I had to just lay on my side and endure. I hope it works 
better for you.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Miss 
  Liz 
  To: 'Quad List' 
  Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:46 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Colonoscopy
  Tell your dr. your concerns, they may put you in house to do 
  your clean-out.- Original Message -From: "Karen S. Nelson" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  "'Dan'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Quad List'" 
  quad-list@eskimo.comSent: 
  Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:02 PMSubject: RE: [QUAD-L] 
  Colonoscopy We have done it two times and boy oh boy what fun 
  we had! The firsttime was the worst. 
  Dylan started going nearly immediately after starting to drink the 
  golitely. We hadn't expected the quick response and thus 
  chair and carpet were soiled. I had put him in depends 
  thinking that wouldhelp but not the case. The 
  only solution was to get in the shower chair and endure the 
  event. I think all the stress gave him an upset stomach 
  soboth ends were producing. Sometime in the wee hours 
  there we were in the bathroom and I said something about needing a 
  cigarette. He respondedwith me too so we shared a cigarette 
  and laughed. He smoked before hisaccident and since 
  then I will have no part of helping him smoke but that night was an 
  exception. It was one of those times when it got so bad there was 
  no other thing to do but laugh. The second time went 
  well. We were experienced and ready to spend the evening 
  in the bathroom. Everything went much smoother maybe 
  simply because we had our minds accepting of this is how it is going 
  to be. I also think Dylan had eaten less the days before 
  in anticipation of what was to come. My family has a 
  profound history of colon cancer therefore I have a colonoscopy every 
  other year. Dylan I think is on a five year 
  schedule. He had one because of the family history 
  and the second one was prior to his bladder augmentation 
  surgery. One thing about it once you get the prep behind you 
  theprocedure is a piece of cake. We did not have any 
  problems with dysreflexia. Karen Mother of Dylan C6/7 
  complete Paralyzed 01/20/02 Anticipate graduation from college 
  in May -Original Message- From: Dan 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:12 
  PM To: Quad List Subject: [QUAD-L] Colonoscopy 
  My doctor wants me to have a Colonoscopy. Have any of you fellow quads 
  had one? If so, how did you manage? I'm concerned about the 'cleaning 
  out'part. I know walkies that had this procedure and they said 
  they were up allnight going in and out of the john. As a quad I 
  can't do that. Any suggestions? 
  Dan -- No virus found in this 
  incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 
  7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 
  2/10/2006

Re: [QUAD-L] Waxing for women

[Stacy Harim]

I get my eyebrows waxed on occasion at the salon or if my friend comes over 
to cut my hair. He works in a salon and also cuts and waxes friends on the 
side.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Quad-list post 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 11:22 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Waxing for women
  
  Hey gals do any of you wax? if so,at home or salon? 
  Thanks... lq

Re: [QUAD-L] Pet ?

[Stacy Harim]

I have a cat and throw a few treats across the room. That was he has 
a few to eat before he even realizes I am gone. Adopting my cat is the 
best thing I've done but he's smart to the extent that he knows he can get away 
with a lot while I'm in bed. He knows I'm not able to jump up and get him. 
lol. He is sweet and sleeps with me all the time especially since I am in bed so 
much with the sore, he knows something is wrong and is in my bed with me all of 
the time. 

I hope you have many great years with your new little 4 legged 
friend.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: kathy 
  To: quad 
  Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:57 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Pet ?
  
  

  
O.k here's the deal. I'm a quad and recently adopted an 8 month old 
cat. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get out the door without 
the cat running out? Also, has anyone tried taking the cat out on 
a leash in the chair?
kathy

  

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Driving

[Stacy Harim]

I have the zero effort steering. Not by choice. The guy I got 
it from is a para so I'm not sure why he got it. I was told by the guy 
that put in the swirl drivers seat and new lift that the company that DORS uses 
recomends things for vans/cars that people don’t necessarily need to they can 
charge more money. Not all paras need lower floors. I can use my 
arms well since I am a para and find the zero effort steering is more 
difficult. Just barely touching the wheel makes the van move quite a 
bit. I am getting used to it though but it's not fun on windy days at 
all.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:28 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driving
  
  
  
  I'm sure they were referring to "Zero Effort Steering"
  W
  
  
  
  
  
  
  In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:27:48 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Not sure what "o power steering 
is"..is that that little wheel on the steering wheel? We have a friend 
quad who has that.
A huge ole transfer truck whizzed 
by us causing it to "fish tail"...and of course it went right on 
by..yespraise God.we were both ok...in fact, had we not 
had the accident, his lung cancer would not have been 
discoveret

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Driving

[Stacy Harim]

I'm sorry if it seemed that I was implying that all paras don’t need lower 
floors. That wasn’t my intention.I did say that not all 
para'sdon’t need lower floors. I didn't say para's don’t need. 
I was only saying what I was told by the guy that worked on the 
van.I have also heard bad things about the companyfrom other 
people. 

Stacy

- Original Message - 

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Driving
  
  
  Not all Paras and Quads are alike in their mobility needs. But I 
  still find it difficult to judge others... by my standards. There are 
  some paras that need just as much adaptive equipment as quads.
  W
  
  
  
  
  
  n a message dated 1/15/2006 1:48:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Not all paras need lower floors. I can use my arms well since I 
am a para and find the zero effort steering is more difficult. Just 
barely touching the wheel makes the van move quite a bit. I am getting 
used to it though but it's not fun on windy days at all.

Stacy
  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] devotees

[Stacy Harim]

I have had a concern about devotees and have had several contact me through 
yahoo messenger. I guess they looked at my profile on yahoo and then they 
instant messenger. I did however meet a devotee through disabled united 
that was actually really nice. He had medical problems when he was 
young. I don’t know if that is why but I emailed back and forth with him 
and he seems to be one of the few that is nice. We decided to be pen pals 
since he is in Denver and I'm in MD and he is Jewish and wants to find someone 
also Jewish. Not all of them have bad intentions its just that it is 
difficult to figure out which ones are good and frankly I'd rather just stay 
away from them in general because you just don't know. I'm curious to know 
about other peoples experiences with devotees.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:52 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Online Community 
  for Disabled
  
  
  Thanks Erin,
  My concern has always for the protection of the membership here from a 
  group
  of devotees, who prey on those who are newly injured or who are living by 
  themselves.
  Not trying to be over protective, but know of several people that bought 
  the London Bridge
  last year and they weren't disabled.
  W
  
  
  
  
  In a message dated 1/11/2006 9:25:05 AM Central Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
To W and All,
I hear your concerns. I was alsoskeptical at first about sharing 
things about myself.First of allthere is a legal privacy 
agreement given by the website. Second of all, you are not required to give 
any information other than your email address, which you are giving by being 
part of this list-serve as well. We all must just use our best judgement, 
just like in the real world. Maybe it can be of help to someone.It 
can't hurt to check it out. 
Thanks for your imput.
Erin
  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Testing ...

[Stacy Harim]

I think its just a quiet day. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: S. Dial 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 8:28 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Testing ..
  
  No posts in 2 days so testing.
  
  Steph

Re: [QUAD-L] first time user

[Stacy Harim]

Welcome to the list. Good luck in your search.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gloria Matthews 
  To: Brien Stocker ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 4:17 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] first time user
  Hello. This is my first time so I'm not sure if I'm doing this 
  right or not.maybe I'm suppose to post on the site and not just 
  "reply." Anyway, until I figure that out... My husband 
  is quad and we're looking for the impossible...accessible vacation 
  rental in Florida or NC or Virginia mountains.I've been searching 
  for 25 years nowhave accessed all the sites and magazines..but 
  maybe you guys can helpneed cottage or condo with roll in shower, 
  roll under sink...you know, a USABLE wheelchair place...not just 
  "accessibile"...ie...once ya get IN, one can actually DO something in 
  there!Thanks for any help.Gloria 
  MatthewsSwansboro, NC 28584- Original Message - 
  From: "Brien Stocker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comCc: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: 
  Thursday, December 29, 2005 3:58 PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
  vitamins William Willis wrote: Did someone 
  post a vitamin regimen for presure sores a while back, or did  I 
  just dream it? If so, would you post it again? 
  Thanks. Here is a long but 
  possible answer to your vitamin question: I have been on Dr 
  Perricones diet "The Perricone Weight loss Diet" for  about 2 
  months. The number of supplements is pretty significant but the  
  way he teaches you to eat is so healthy, will help keep you or help you 
   attain a healthy weight and is such a good diet that your skin is 
  more  durable and less susceptible to problems. His first books 
  were actually  anti aging and improved skin and complexion 
  books. This weight loss book  embraces all the previous diet 
  aspects. I have a 2 year old pressure sore  on my outer ankle 
  bone that is finally healing. It may be due to this  diet but, 
  the great thing about this diet is that I FEEL better mentally  and 
  physically and I am never hungry between meals. I am 44 and it 
  is the best lifestyle I have ever encountered. I used to  do 
  Ironman Qualifiers. If I had known about this lifestyle and way of 
   eating then, my performance WOULD definitely have been better. 
  I know  many people with SCI are looking for good, healthy and 
  satisfying ways to  eat. This book may help you:  http://www.nvperriconemd.com/perricone-weight-loss-diet.htm. 
  my best, Brien 

Re: [QUAD-L] flap surgery

[Stacy Harim]

Hi Dave,

How deep and big was your sore. Mine is not very big as it is 
deep. They are definatly going to be doing some muscle reconstruction in 
there. I have to admit I'm nervous. I'm scared about going into a 
rehab hospital around here. The care I hear is a lot worse than when I was 
there and then it was terrible. The thing that benefited me was that I was 
eventually able to get up on my own towards the end but when I couldn’t dress 
myself or transfer, I was consistantly late to rehab. Because I was more 
work than anyone else I was saved for last. I wasn’t getting turned or 
woken up to turn for the first month or so when I was there. It scares me 
to think that I have to be bed bound for such an amount of time and have that 
terrible care. My friend and I sat and thought about all the nursing homes 
and rehabvcenters in the area and it is quite ugly to even think about it. 
The last thing I want are some complications because the nurses aren't good or 
they are overworked. I'm thinking of asking to get a prescription for a 
certain type of bed and stay home and have my neighbor help look after me and 
maybe look into meals on wheels. I have a whole list of questions for my 
doctors.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List 
  Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 2:23 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] flap surgery
  
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  It's nice to hear from you! I am sorry that the wound vac didn't 
  help much, and hope they are able to either get the wound to start healing 
  from the bottom up so they cando the flap surgery. Your down-time 
  with the flap surgery will depend onthe size of the flap. I was on 
  my face about 6 monthsafter I had mine done, and had to ease back onto 
  my bottom, but it was worth it. I hope you are able to get it so you are 
  able to start the road to getting out and start feeling better. You have 
  been in my thoughts and prayers. Stay strong.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
  Stacy Harim 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



Hey guys,

I haven't been around because my computer broke down of me. I 
finally did get a lap top. I have a guy from the health dept. that can 
get funding for me if I need to get rent or something paid for and he got 
the money for the lap top which is great because of all the time I am 
spending in bed. Unfortunatly the wound vac didn't help me at all. The 
sore is healing from the sides but not the depth of the sore. They 
just opened a wound care center here so I went because the plastic surgeon 
that opened up the tunnel isn't doing anything about the fact that the sore 
is not filling from the bottom. They are saying could be osteomyelitis 
but I don't think so. There are no symptoms of an infection but I am seeing 
the infectious doctor there anyway to make sure. The plastic surgeon 
is saying that he wants to do the flap surgery. They did do a test and 
I think they are going to start the hyperbarrick chamber and see where that 
goes but I am very curious about the flap just to get it closed up. 
What can I expect with this as far as healing time, how much longer am I 
going to stay in bed? I’m gaining weight because I'm not getting any 
exercise in here and it's getting very depressing. I live alone and 
don't have many friends left since I got sick. The ones that I do have 
are married and busy with their families so I cant blame them. I just 
want to get healed. Is the flap the best way to go at this 
point? Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Stacy
  

Re: [QUAD-L] sore

[Stacy Harim]

I tried miracle mist and it didn't do anything for me. It is probably 
because the sore is that bad.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Liz 
  To: William Willis ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 9:25 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sore
  miracle mist is getting rave reviews- Original Message 
  -From: "William Willis" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: 
  Thursday, December 15, 2005 10:38 PMSubject: [QUAD-L] sore 
  I have a pressure sore on my ol' weary ass that I have been treating 
  for over three years. It gets neither better nor worse and has never 
  become infected.(thankfully). It is about four in across but not deep 
  at all. It also has good blood flow. After three years it has grown to 
  love me, cause it certainly won't go away. Anybody got any ideas 
  short of an assectomy?(I do wet-to-dry twice a 
  day)

[QUAD-L] your college tuition

[Stacy Harim]

Hey Luke,

I get college paid for but I do have to register first so they know my 
schedule and they have the exact amount to be paid. They go by the form 
the college provides for payment at the office I go by. I know your 
frustration. I have gone through 5 councelors in 2 years. They keep 
leaving and getting promoted. I have gone back to a supervisor that has 
too much work on her hands. I want her to call me and she sends me an 
appt. date. I'm not going back again this semester because the pressure 
sore isn't healing and I'm going to get a flap to close it and I'm afraid I wont 
heal in time so skipping another semester. I’m frustrated because they wont pay 
for part time. My advice to you is ask them if the reason they want you to 
trust them isthat do they need that formfrom the school to pay 
them. Let me know how it goes!! 

Stacy

[QUAD-L] flap surgery

[Stacy Harim]

Hey guys,

I haven't been around because my computer broke down of me. I finally 
did get a lap top. I have a guy from the health dept. that can get funding 
for me if I need to get rent or something paid for and he got the money for the 
lap top which is great because of all the time I am spending in bed. 
Unfortunatly the wound vac didn't help me at all. The sore is healing from 
the sides but not the depth of the sore. They just opened a wound care 
center here so I went because the plastic surgeon that opened up the tunnel 
isn't doing anything about the fact that the sore is not filling from the 
bottom. They are saying could be osteomyelitis but I don't think so. There 
are no symptoms of an infection but I am seeing the infectious doctor there 
anyway to make sure. The plastic surgeon is saying that he wants to do the 
flap surgery. They did do a test and I think they are going to start the 
hyperbarrick chamber and see where that goes but I am very curious about the 
flap just to get it closed up. What can I expect with this as far as 
healing time, how much longer am I going to stay in bed? I’m gaining 
weight because I'm not getting any exercise in here and it's getting very 
depressing. I live alone and don't have many friends left since I got 
sick. The ones that I do have are married and busy with their families so 
I cant blame them. I just want to get healed. Is the flap the best 
way to go at this point? Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] no running water, no electricity

[Stacy Harim]

Good luck Luke,

I'm saying prayers for you all down south.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 9:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] no running water, no 
  electricity
  
  hey all
  
  i survived rita! but i think the heats about to kill me. i 
  get my brother to toss me in the lake (filled with cold rainwater) twice a 
  day. the only electricity we have is a small generator that we use to 
  power the fridge, a few fans, and the computer (as long as we have gas). 
  my mom is cooking with a propane grill for now. i'm sure i have enough 
  supplies and pillsto get me through a month or so (thats how long i 
  heard it was going to be until we get power).i've been hearing of 
  looting going on around myarea.
  
  i heard on the radio that the eye passed 20 miles east of us; in jasper, 
  texas. during the stormone tree fell on my room and across the 
  hood of my van. in all we had about 12 trees fall in our yard alone 
  (tall pine trees). there were so many trees we couldn't even see out the 
  front door but my brother started the day after, along with some help, and now 
  most of the front yard is clean. 
  
  through all this i feel pretty damn good, though. 
   
  good day to all!
  
  Luke
  
  p.s. it might take me awhile answer emails, i only get online every 
  day or so.

Re: [QUAD-L] Shivers

[Stacy Harim]

Great minds think a like. LOL! I try not to worry too 
much. Even though it's a concern, it's not always related to a spinal cord 
injury. I've also learned a lot of signs and symptoms in my few short 
years of experience with paralysis.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Lori 
  Michaelson ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad 
  
  Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 2:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Shivers
  
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  I agree. I'd call my nurse and have her call my doctor, but I'd 
  make them do a culture before I 
  started on any antibiotic regiment.   
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USAStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  




I would call the doctors. If the temp goes up, go to the ER, but 
call the doc in the morning. You could simply be getting the 
flu.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeremy 
  Dickinson 
  To: Quad 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 
  9:20 PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Shivers
  Hi,I'm Jeremy and I have the shivers rightnow w/ a 
  101 temp.Haven't had any antibiodics lately and no uti. I'm totally 
  clueless.Hi Jeremy.I know when I'm cold verses 
  the shiver/anxiety feeling I get with a fever indicating a 
  UTI.My anxiety began today after finishing a bout of 
  antibiodics weeks ago. I hate this! My tempwas 98.6 
  and 99.2 but it's "my sign."I took Advil. Feeling 
  better but unsure of the problem. I can't find a caring Dr and 
  now have a trip planned.GrrrLori 
  MichaelsonC4/5 complete quad, 25 years postTucson, 
  AZ/---Original Message---//*From:*/ 
  Jeremy Dickinson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*Date:*/ 
  09/15/05 13:37:18/*To:*/ Greg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*Cc:*/ quad-list@eskimo.com mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com/*Subject:*/ 
  Re: [QUAD-L] sleepI've had a simular situation. 2 days ago, 
  I got shivers and feverbetween 100 and 102. It lasted abt 12 hrs. Any 
  ideas?Jeremy Dickinson[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo: 
  jkdclickhttp://www.avantbrowser.comhttp://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

Re: [QUAD-L] Shivers

[Stacy Harim]

That has happened to me. You might of caught a little bug and your 
body wasn't having it and beat through it insead of getting sick. I've 
heard of stranger things happening. Glad your doing better.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeremy Dickinson 
  To: David K. Kelmer 
  Cc: Stacy Harim ; Lori 
  Michaelson ; Quad 
  Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 4:54 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Shivers
  Hi,Thx for the comments. I agree with you both. The odd 
  thing is, less than 12 hrs later I'm feeling great, no temps or shivers 
  all day. I'm totally confused. My 1 nurse thinks it's nuerological. Can 
  it? I'm a C-3 quad thats thinks he's not a 
  quad.Jeremy Dickinson[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo: 
  jkdclickhttp://www.avantbrowser.comhttp://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/David 
  K. Kelmer wrote: Hi Stacy,  I agree. 
  I'd call my nurse and have her call my doctor, but I'd make  them do a 
  culture before I started on any antibiotic 
  regiment.   With 
  Love, CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 29 Years 
  Post Texas, USA */Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* 
  wrote: I would call the doctors. 
  If the temp goes up, go to the ER, but call 
  the doc in the morning. You could simply be getting the 
  flu.  
  Stacy - 
  Original Message - 
  *From:* Jeremy Dickinson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  *To:* Quad mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com 
  *Sent:* Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:20 
  PM *Subject:* [QUAD-L] 
  Shivers 
  Hi, I'm Jeremy 
  and I have the shivers rightnow w/ a 
  101 temp.Haven't had 
  any antibiodics lately 
  and no uti. I'm totally 
  clueless. 
  Hi Jeremy. 
   I know when I'm cold 
  verses the shiver/anxiety feeling I 
  get with 
  a fever indicating a 
  UTI. 
   My anxiety began 
  today after finishing a bout of 
  antibiodics weeks ago. 
   I hate this! My 
  temp was 98.6 and 99.2 
  but it's "my 
  sign." 
   I took Advil. 
  Feeling better but unsure of the problem. 
  I can't find 
  a caring Dr and now 
  have a trip planned. 
  Grrr 
   Lori 
  Michaelson C4/5 
  complete quad, 25 years 
  post Tucson, 
  AZ 
   /---Original 
  Message---/ 
   /*From:*/ Jeremy 
  Dickinson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  /*Date:*/ 09/15/05 
  13:37:18 /*To:*/ Greg 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  /*Cc:*/ quad-list@eskimo.com mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com 
  mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com 
  /*Subject:*/ Re: [QUAD-L] 
  sleep 
   I've had a simular 
  situation. 2 days ago, I got shivers and 
  fever between 100 and 
  102. It lasted abt 12 hrs. Any 
  ideas? 
   
   Jeremy 
  Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Yahoo: jkdclick http://www.avantbrowser.com http://www.avantbrowser.com/ 
  http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

Re: [QUAD-L] Shivers

[Stacy Harim]

I would call the doctors. If the temp goes up, go to the ER, but call 
the doc in the morning. You could simply be getting the flu.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeremy Dickinson 
  To: Quad 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 9:20 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Shivers
  Hi,I'm Jeremy and I have the shivers rightnow w/ a 101 
  temp.Haven't had any antibiodics lately and no uti. I'm totally 
  clueless.Hi Jeremy.I know when I'm cold verses the 
  shiver/anxiety feeling I get with a fever indicating a 
  UTI.My anxiety began today after finishing a bout of antibiodics 
  weeks ago. I hate this! My tempwas 98.6 and 99.2 but it's 
  "my sign."I took Advil. Feeling better but unsure of the 
  problem. I can't find a caring Dr and now have a trip 
  planned.GrrrLori MichaelsonC4/5 
  complete quad, 25 years postTucson, AZ/---Original 
  Message---//*From:*/ Jeremy Dickinson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*Date:*/ 
  09/15/05 13:37:18/*To:*/ Greg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*Cc:*/ quad-list@eskimo.com mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com/*Subject:*/ 
  Re: [QUAD-L] sleepI've had a simular situation. 2 days ago, I 
  got shivers and feverbetween 100 and 102. It lasted abt 12 hrs. Any 
  ideas?Jeremy Dickinson[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Yahoo: 
  jkdclickhttp://www.avantbrowser.comhttp://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/

[QUAD-L] i had surgery

[Stacy Harim]

Hey guys,

I had the sore operated on today. He opened the hole to the tunnel, cleaned 
it out and he is ordering the wound vac for the sore. I am ok, I haven't 
seen it yet, but getting ready to change the bandage. I'm nervous actually 
but I know it's for the better.

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] Adult Stem Cells May Help Spine-Injured Mice

[Stacy Harim]

PN magazine had an article about it. Russia has been doing it for 
years. I didn't read to detailed but one person out of 20 had some leg 
movement where others had some improved sensation and improved bowel and bladder 
function.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Lubin 
  To: quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:59 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Adult Stem Cells May 
  Help Spine-Injured Mice
  Lab Tests Show Improved Mobility With Adult Human Neural Stem 
  Cellshttp://my.webmd.com/content/Article/112/110298.htmResearch 
  Finds Stem Cells Aid in Spinal Cord Repairhttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4854902strange, 
  foxnews is the only other place I saw this reported. I guess if it doesn't 
  evolve embryonic stem cells it doesn't get widely 
reported.

Re: [QUAD-L] Feet swelling!

[Stacy Harim]

Mine swell. Its because ofcirculation. They go down when 
I put them up and I was prescribed lasix. I take it when they get 
bad.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Silas Shelburne 
  To: quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 7:39 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Feet swelling!
  
  Hey everybody, 
  Ive just recently been having troubles with my 
  feet and calves swelling, any input would be greatly appreciated! 
  
  Silas 

Re: [QUAD-L] sleep

[Stacy Harim]

I sleep in a hospital bed, only because I can't afford a big girl 
bed. The one I had wasn't a good height for transfers and I felt more 
comfortable having the rails to pull myself to get dressed. Now Im great at 
rolling and want a bigger bed. I also pull the covers over my head while 
I'm sleeping when it's cold. I used to not be able to breath when I did 
that but love to sleep that way now. 

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 8:21 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep
  
  
  I just sleep on a queen size bed but I have a therapuetic softer mattress 
  on top that is softer. It was prescribed when I broke my leg7 
  years ago. It's great for the skin
  
  greg
  c41991, 41
  
  In a message dated 9/17/2005 1:34:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Do any of you sleep in a hospital bed with side rails? We pad 
son's side rails with pillows so that when he coughs he dont fall into the 
rails. this also keeps him much too warm. The pillows hold in the 
heat.



-Original Message-From: Greg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Fri, 16 Sep 
2005 19:30:24 -0700Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] sleep





When I live in Seattle I was always cold at night and kelp pulling 
blankets over my head. As long as my ears were cold, I felt cold. So I slept 
with a fleace hat on. It helped a lot. That way I could use fewer blankets, 
yet keep my head and ears warm. I might try that tonight. That way I can 
keep my ears warm, but sleep with just a thin blanket.
Greg

- Original Message - 



My name's also Greg and I always feel 10 degrees colder than everyone 
else in the room. In the winter, I'll cover my head with the blanket 
completely and finally fall asleep. About 3 hours later, I wake up 
screaming for someone to take it off because I'm burning up!
Always struggling to be comfortable


  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] lying flat

[Stacy Harim]

Thanks

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Olson 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] lying flat
  Sounds like AD. I have the same problem. When I 
  get in bed, after being in the chair all day, my pressure shoots up. 
  Unfortunately, I haven't found a solution. Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Hi All,
 WhenI transfer into bed the head is 
raised up a bit. I stay like that for a little while. But then later when 
I'm getting undressed and lay flat my head pounds andI get a very bad 
headache until I raise my head up a little bit.
 Dose anybody else have a problem laying flat 
and getting headaches? This has been happening to me since, 
forever.
 
Bobbie

Re: [QUAD-L] update

[Stacy Harim]

Thank you Dave,

I appreciate it. I'm a little nervous for sure. I don't know 
how big he's going to open it and I am already so lonely laying in bed all the 
time. I am hopefully getting the roho so I would be able to get up a 
little bit but as it stands this cushion is horrible for me and I will only get 
in it if I absolutely have to like dr. apt's or bp/shower and then I'm hurting 
like crazy by the time I'm out of it. I can't believe this cushion did 
this much damage. I also might be able to get money for a lap top so keep 
your fingers crossed for me. It's so lonely in there all 
alone.I live alone so pretty much no one to talk to. My 
friend/helper pretty much comes over to bring me food but isn't able to stay 
long so that is all the interaction I have. I talk to my Mom like once a 
week and my Dad every couple of weeks and my brothers are losers so I barely 
talk to them. The lap top would be a life saver for sure.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List ; Ol' Man 
  River 
  Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:38 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update
  
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  Just a note you let you know you're in my thoughts and prayers. I 
  know the healing process is slow, long, and boring, so Ihope your wound 
  heals nicely and you're able to be up and on your way again soon! 
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
  Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  


I got some as well, but I'm too far gone for it. I'm using it and 
it is helping with the pain a little. I'm just going to keep it on 
hold for the just in case time and hopefully there wont be any. Thanks for 
the email.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ol' 
  Man River 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 
  9:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update
  
  hurry back stacy,
  we miss your input. i got 
  some miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my 
  sit down owie. 
  Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



Hey guys,

this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the 
bowel program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the 
surgeons and he will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He 
will have the vac put on it so it can heal that way. I have more 
confidence now that it will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is 
so narrow. I'll keep you all posted. HOpefully it wont take 
long b/c it is getting very lonely sitting in bed all alone. 
My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to bring me my meals and 
straighten my house but other than that there isn't many people to talk 
to since I have a very small family and don’t talk that much and the few 
friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. 
I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's 
important for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os 
watching the news and thanking God that I am blessed to have what I 
do.

Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can 
get up for a little bit during the day.

Stacy
  Dave - C3, 
  1967, Phoenix AZ
  __Do You 
  Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
  http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] update

[Stacy Harim]

I got some as well, but I'm too far gone for it. I'm using it and it 
is helping with the pain a little. I'm just going to keep it on hold for 
the just in case time and hopefully there wont be any. Thanks for the 
email.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ol' Man 
  River 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:44 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] update
  
  hurry back stacy,
  we miss your input. i got some 
  miracle mist, and i'm dying to try it out.. maybe on my sit down 
  owie. 
  Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



Hey guys,

this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel 
program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he 
will be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac 
put on it so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it 
will be opened since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep 
you all posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very 
lonely sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the 
waiver comes over to bring me my meals and straighten my house but other 
than that there isn't many people to talk to since I have a very small 
family and don’t talk that much and the few friends that I have are very 
busy with their families and work. I'm trying to keep my spirits up so 
I can heal b/c I know that it's important for getting better. One 
thing that keeps me going os watching the news and thanking God that I am 
blessed to have what I do.

Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up 
for a little bit during the day.

Stacy
  Dave - C3, 1967, 
  Phoenix AZ
  __Do You 
  Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
  http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] Lori, and others with indwelling type caths.

[Stacy Harim]

Dan, have you put any thought into getting a super pubic or the mitrofanoff 
that a few of us have gotten? That will certainlty bring down your chances 
of infection. I was just curious. That is the reason why I decided 
for the mitrofanoff. I wanted to get rid of the Foley and at the same time 
don’t want anything connected to me. Event though it didn't work for me 
the first time I am getting it again and don’t let that freak you out. 
there's always a small chance and I am the unlucky one it happened to but I hear 
it would be worth it in the long run to do it again.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:41 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Lori, and others with 
  indwelling type caths.
  
   Lori, I know you had quite a problem with a 
  PROTEUS infection. I had a very serious PSEUDAMONAS infection that put in into 
  the hospital for 1 week on IV drugs about a year and a half back, that my 
  Urologist said he knew about but wanted to let it go, to see if I could get 
  better on my own.Well it really messed me up and destroyed much of my 
  white blood cells back then. NOW this Urologist say's I must go to my family 
  Doc for all bladder infections. Well my family Doctor just told me I got 
  Pseudamoas AGAIN Today ! He wants to try and treat it with ORAL anti-biotics 
  -- Levequin. Do any of you know if the more serious types of bacteria 
  can be treated like that or do they require IV Drugs ?? I'm Lost and confused 
  on this...as my Doctors seem unsure themselves. I just gave blood today to see 
  if my blood cells are messed up again 
  Thanks, 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Disabled Evacuees

[Stacy Harim]

I have an old chair. Would you happen to know where I can donate it 
to?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2005 6:19 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Disabled Evacuees
  Thanks Mark,This might be another excellent reason to put 
  your name on your chair, shouldyou become seperated from it for a short or 
  longer period.WIn a message dated 9/15/05 4:33:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: They need wheelchairs, scooters and walkers that were 
  destroyed or leftbehind. They need medication and their government 
  disability checks. Theyneed to know how they will ever live 
  independently again.

[QUAD-L] update

[Stacy Harim]

Hey guys,

this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel 
program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will 
be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it 
so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened 
since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all 
posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely 
sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to 
bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many 
people to talk to since I have a very small family and don’t talk that much and 
the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. 
I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important 
for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and 
thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do.

Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for 
a little bit during the day.

Stacy

[QUAD-L] update

[Stacy Harim]

Hey guys,

this is just a quick not since I need to use my time up for the bowel 
program and I'm in quite a bit of pain. I went to the surgeons and he will 
be opening up the tunnel to clean it out. He will have the vac put on it 
so it can heal that way. I have more confidence now that it will be opened 
since the opening to the tunnel is so narrow. I'll keep you all 
posted. HOpefully it wont take long b/c it is getting very lonely 
sitting in bed all alone. My neighbor/helper from the waiver comes over to 
bring me my meals and straighten my house but other than that there isn't many 
people to talk to since I have a very small family and don’t talk that much and 
the few friends that I have are very busy with their families and work. 
I'm trying to keep my spirits up so I can heal b/c I know that it's important 
for getting better. One thing that keeps me going os watching the news and 
thanking God that I am blessed to have what I do.

Take care everyone and hopefully I'll have my roho soon so I can get up for 
a little bit during the day.

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] out of commission for a while

[Stacy Harim]

I ordered it and hopefully will get it soon but I can't be up at all. 
I am hopefully getting that roho cushion but damn Medicare takes forever 
here. I have to tell ya that I'm sick to death with bad stuff happening to 
me. It has got to look up soon.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Silas Shelburne 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 1:51 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] out of commission 
  for a while
  
  Dam gal, 
  I know its going to be hard on you 
  having to stay in bed, my wounds are really closing fast scince I started 
  using the miracle mist and im up 12hr's a day. They will probable close 
  completely in a few weeks. Hang in there and good luck! 
  
  Silas 
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-List@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:02 
AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] out of commission 
for a while


In a message dated 02/09/2005 01:17:13 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Hey guys,
  
  I went to the wound care center today and it looks like it's surgery 
  time. they need to open the tunnel. I am going on bed bound 
  and will be back when this clears up. Take care for now 
  everyone. I hope everyone faired well after Katrina.
  
  Stacy

Hey Stacy,

Hows your recovery going? I hope your doing well, and we're 
looking forward to having you back on the board with us all!

Love Smurf xxx

Re: [QUAD-L] out of commission for a while

[Stacy Harim]

I went to an orthopedic surgeon because he was recommended since the wound 
is either really close or at the bone. I lucked out and there isn't any 
infection. Thank God. I'm going to a plastic surgeon tomorrow. 
I pray that he gets it cleaned out and hopefully wound vac to heal quicker but 
ultimately it is up to him to decide what will be best for me. I hear that 
he has dealt with this type of wound before so I feel secure going to him. I 
have been in bed for a week except for my bowel program and it has only gotten 
03 cm better. At this rate its going to be like a year before I 
heal. I am praying and crossing my fingers. Thanks for your concern 
Sarah.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 1:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] out of commission 
  for a while
  
  
  In a message dated 02/09/2005 01:17:13 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Hey guys,

I went to the wound care center today and it looks like it's surgery 
time. they need to open the tunnel. I am going on bed bound and 
will be back when this clears up. Take care for now everyone. I 
hope everyone faired well after Katrina.

Stacy
  
  Hey Stacy,
  
  Hows your recovery going? I hope your doing well, and we're looking 
  forward to having you back on the board with us all!
  
  Love Smurf xxx

[QUAD-L] out of commission for a while

[Stacy Harim]

Hey guys,

I went to the wound care center today and it looks like it's surgery 
time. they need to open the tunnel. I am going on bed bound and will 
be back when this clears up. Take care for now everyone. I hope 
everyone faired well after Katrina.

Stacy

[QUAD-L] double emails.

[Stacy Harim]

I hadn't set up my mail account after reinstalling windows. Sorry for 
doubling the emails.

Stacy

[QUAD-L] miracle mist

[Stacy Harim]

I deleted miracle mist pluslink. I went the archives and there 
was a bad link. Would someone please send me the order link? I would 
really appreciate it.

Thanks again,
Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

Houston, 

I've had a taste ofboth levels. I was a quad when I got out of 
my coma. I just thought that I would love it if I could use my arms. 
I'm T 7/8 but my torso is so long that I am paralyzed rightbelow my chest. 
I think quads want to be paras and paras want to walk. AB's want a better 
life, etc.. It goes on and on. Everyone wants something better than 
what they have.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Houston809 ; dave 
  oconnell ; Stacy Harim ; quadlist ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  Hi Houston,
  
  I agree with you about Dave. I think we all are super just by 
  showing each other, and everyone else, that we're here and doing whatever we 
  can to live a good life. Each day adds up, and as the years go by we 
  learn a little more about ourselves. I hope yours is a lucky 7. 
  :)
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA 
  Houston809 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  Dave,You sound 2 be a 
super quad yourself. Keep pushing you and others truly inspire me. I’ve met 
a few quads that stand, I’ve only met 1 so far that actually walk  I like 
some others pray for medical break throughs. I’d love 2 just have a little 
more return. I just want to be a low level Para.Houston On 
8/23/05 4:25 PM, "Ol' Man River" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
when i was at Wayne state univ in 1970 we had a 
  few walking quads - we called them super-quads. they walked with 
  short arm braces - it was very laborious and not completely functional out 
  in the real world but still, they were impressive. I'm a incomplete 
  c3 from a trampoline and i used to stand to put my w/c into the back seat 
  of my 2 door cars. my legs are now not trustworthy enough for such 
  activity so i have switched to a power chair and a van with a ramp. 
  i have lived alone before and still can but prefer to have an a/b 
  around in case i fall. getting up is outside my abilities. i 
  drag my butt in and out of bed and get some help from triggered leg spasms 
  to get there. i use back and leg muscles to get onto the raised jon. 
  i really would like to offer more help to you on the list but it's 
  evident we don't have all that much in common. i do suffer from many 
  of the ills and dep! ressions described on here and of course 
  am just as helpless as any quad in many public situations. 
  heavy doors, curbs, narrow jon stalls, high drinking 
  fountains, all are just as unusable to me as they are you. i do 
  however, frequently ask for and get cheerful help from anyone around 
  women seem particularly drawn to my helpless situations. not 
  my first idea for meeting chicks tho. the winning combo is - never 
  give up - persistence wins in the 
  end.DaveStacy Harim 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow, 
that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression 
b/c I am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like 
yours does with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very 
impressed by you.Stacy
- 
  Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 
  23, 2005 11:24 AMSubject: [QUAD-L] 
  TransfersIn a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard 
  Time, TheOmen723 writes:
  hey 
paulcan you do a weight shift 
in your chair or turn yourself at night? if not that would be 
a good starting point. I'm c-5/6 incomplete, have very weak tricepts 
and have been transfering independently (without sliding board) for 
couple of years. i transfer to the shower chair, stander, and 
bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i 
start to lean forward my spasms automatically kick in to help me 
lean back. when you first start transfering you'll have a 
tendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chair it will slide 
away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to lift and 
move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a transfer 
(KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real bad and i don't 
feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. i'd 
rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floorDave - C3, 1967, Phoenix AZ http://www.users.qwest.net/~daveoc/index.html 
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  protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

That is awesome. I've tried and tried in rehab and just can't. 
I hear so many stories and watch the real world and one of the girls in dating a 
para, he got in the van without a board. It is so impressive. Im not mad 
that that I have to use one cuz it could always be worse than it is.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: ~LittleQuad~ 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-list 
  post 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 11:20 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  i've seen quad transfers without boards...curtis...he's c 6/7 and never 
  has used a board as long as i've known him.he's very 
  impressiveStacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  




Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I 
am way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does 
with you as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, 
  TheOmen723 writes:
  
hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or 
turn yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting 
point.i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have 
been transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of 
years. i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and 
bed. i use the tone in my legs to help me move. when i start 
to lean forward myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean 
back.when you first start transfering you'll have 
atendency to scoot, which if you're in manual chairit 
willslide away from you. i use my tone to give me a push to 
lift and move over. i have never ended up on the floor doing a 
transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my tone is real 
bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the 
floor

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

Wow, that is impressive to transfer without a board. I'm paraplegic and 
cannot in anyway do that. I have to have my board and I'm 
paraplegic. My torso is way too long to get shoulder depression b/c I am 
way strong enough. My tone doesn't work with me like yours does with you 
as well. I'm not mad about it but I am very impressed by you.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:24 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 10:12:33 AM Central Standard Time, 
  TheOmen723 writes:
  
hey paul

can you do a weight shift in your chair or turn 
yourself at night? if not that would be a good starting 
point.i'm c-5/6 incomplete, have veryweak tricepts and have been 
transfering independently (without sliding board) for couple of years. 
i transfer to the shower chair,stander, and bed. i use the tone 
in my legs to help me move. when i start to lean forward 
myspasms automatically kick in to help me lean back.when 
you first start transfering you'll have atendency to scoot, which if 
you're in manual chairit willslide away from you. i use my 
tone to give me a push to lift and move over. i have never ended up on 
the floor doing a transfer (KNOCK ON WOOD). when my 
tone is real bad and i don't feel safe doing it i ask for help, 
though. 

i'd rather ask for help getting in bed than getting off the floor

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore on butt miracle mist link

[Stacy Harim]

I'm like you John as well as I live alone so if I have to stay in bed, 
nothing gets done around here. I have to get upto eat, do laundry, 
pay bills, etc. It takes longer to do stuff so by the time I'm done, it's 
time to eat or take a shower. Its always something. I do stay down as much 
as possible but I go stir crazy.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:31 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore on 
  butt miracle mist link
  
  
  I always ask the doctor if I get covered psych visits if I do bed rest. I 
  go crazy after about 10 days. I get my days and nights messed up. I start 
  having anxiety attacks and swimming in self-pity. I slather any skin tear of 
  reddened area with pure aloe. I'm not going to brag as my butt seems to get 
  cut and torn more often as i get older. I'd like to find something that 
  toughens skin that is not yet damaged. Even when I have a sore I still get up 
  every day. I don't care if it takes longer to heal, I just can't stay in this 
  room. I sure hope you can get some help without the bed rest, Silas. 
  
  
  All my best,
  john
  P.S. C5 29 years post. If I ever seem offensive or say something that 
  hurts anyone I want to apologize. At times I rant and don't think. I am, after 
  all, a traumatic brain injury, too. Don't hesitate to tell me if I am rude. 
  
  
  In a message dated 8/23/2005 3:54:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
Hello Dan, 
lm using DermaWound, my Doctor totally freaked out but 
after 2 weeks he omited that it was making a big difference. I ordered 
the miracle mist Saturday, maybe it with the Dermawound ill get these 
buggers healed. The Dr won'ts me to stay in bed, maybe this 
winter. 
Silas 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 10:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore 
  on butt miracle mist link
  
   I read that story.sounds great...I also read a 
  bunch of testimonials on another product called DermaWound, it sounds very 
  good also.has anyone tried that ? 
   
  Dan
  
  

[QUAD-L] HEALIX sores, uti's, colds, etc..

[Stacy Harim]

Hey Guys and Gals,

After doing a search on the internet about pressure sores, I came across 
this site. It's called healix and is supposed to do wonders for all sorts 
of ailments. Here is the website if you want to check it out. http://www.heallix.com/testimonials/bedsores.htmI'm 
thinking of o ordering some.

STacy

Re: [QUAD-L] Transfers

[Stacy Harim]

I saw a video of a quad transferring himself once but can't remember 
where. He had an L shaped transfer board and it had straps somehow. 
I think he slid his hands in the straps, transferred himself and picked his legs 
up w/the board. The video didn't show how he took his hands out of the 
straps or anything. It was a long time ago.

Good luck Paul,
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:07 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Transfers
  
  Hi Everyone,
  
  I am a C5/6 complete quad who would like to transfer myself from chair to 
  bed.Anyone able to transfer themselves at my level of injury or any level? Any 
  tips or techniques or equipment to help me?
  
  Thanks Paul

Re: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain and AD

[Stacy Harim]

I'm an incomplete para but have the same problems. My legs wouldn't go 
straight when I wanted them to or would shoot straight and lock when I wanted to 
bend them. I take 1200mg of neurontin 3x a day and 40mg of baclofen 3x a 
day. My doc started working zanelfex into it. When I saw the pain 
specialist, he put me on a low dose of methadone and it helped everything 
considerably. I still have pain but no where near as bad and helped my 
spasms.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: William 
  Willis 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:14 
  PM
  Subject: FW: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain and 
  AD
  I have developed that same problem. My legs tend to stay 
  contracted. I can force them semi-straight, but they bounce right back up. 
  At night they just about kill me. They feel like taut rubberbands that 
  tremble and shake..and hurt. Baclofen helps a bit, but not much. Makes 
  it hell to put on my pants. I too was in a wreck that broke my legs and 
  jammed my hips (1993). I guess the results are now catching me. Wm. 
  WillisFrom: "Greg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Lana Baugh" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: 
  quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: 
  Re: [QUAD-L] Pain and ADDate: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 13:35:29 
  -0700I take Neurontin too, but for me, that only helps with 
  the arm tingling and some arm pain. It does nothing for my real bad 
  body pain.2 years ago, I went into the ER spamming very bad, hard 
  enough to be grunting. I as breathing hard, but felt like I was not 
  getting enough air. Almost panic attacks.One day I noticed my 
  right leg would not goes perfectly straight, it would if you pushed 
  it, but once you let go my knee would pop up about 4 inches.My right 
  thigh hurt so bad I was going crazy. It felt like it was being crushed 
  by a vice. I would wakeup from nightmares of my leg being on 
  fire.After a bloodclot test, catscan, and MRI, they found I had H.O. 
  (sp? Hepeotopic Ossification) on my hip. A year before I slightly hurt 
  my hip and the bruise on my hip calcified into bone. Grew like tree 
  branches into my muscles.So I guess I was having AD but 
  without the sweating.They got the H.O. to shrink, but the pain is 
  still there.The MRI also showed a "Thing" on my butt, though under the 
  skin. No sore every broke threw. I changed to a Roho, do more pressure 
  releases, etc. After a year they did a ultrasound and found nothing, 
  but they would not do another MRI. They said it could have been a 
  sore, or some bruising around the bone after 20 years of 
  sitting.They still don't know for sure what is causing the pain. They 
  say neither one of those should cause that bad of pain. I think it's 
  obviously one of those 
  things.Greg- Original Message 
  -Gabe takes 2400mg of neurontin for pain. Recently I increased 
  oral baclofen and pain is reduced significantly. However the AD still 
  appears everyday. We have seen Ad appear over anything. Wrinkled 
  sheets, underware too tight, you name it. I think you're right we need 
  to explore the kidney stones and gall 
  stone.Thanks,LanaGabe's 
  momFrom: 
  Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:19 
  PMTo: Lana BaughSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Pain and 
  ADI'm no expert, but in my 23 years of being a 
  quad, doctors have often said that one thing or another should not 
  cause AD or that much pain. BUT they were wrong.I 
  would guess kidney and gall stones would hurt even if small. My aide had 
  to go to the ER from stomach pain and it was gall stones. I've had AD 
  from small things like my shoes (very loose shoes, but my feet swell), 
  or just my Superpubic cath not clogged but just needing to be moved 
  around. Maybe it gets poking my inner bladder... who 
  knows.Is he on pain meds other than Baclofen? I have to take 
  40mg of Oxycontin for my pain. I tried all those spasm pills, none 
  worked for me. Oxycontin stopped my spasms completely and helps the 
  pain a 
  lot.Greg- 
  Original Message -From: Lana BaughTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSent: 
  Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:59 PMSubject: [QUAD-L] Pain and 
  ADI have posted several times about Gabe, my 
  son and a problem that he is having with autonomic dysreflexia (AD) 
  and pain. It started with AD in the late afternoon and some 
  bladder and bowel spasms would follow. The Ad would resolve when he 
  would lay down. Now he has serious pain. We have been to all the 
  doc's. The urologist says he has two kidney stones. One in each 
  kidney. She thinks they are to small to cause the problem, but says 
  it's possible. Neurosurgeon says his shunts are ok and he does not 
  think anything in the spine could cause this. The abdominal ct shows a 
  small gall stone in the neck of the gall bladder. The surgeon doubts 
  it's the cause.So I started thinking about 
  when was the last time Gabe had pain like this. It was 

Re: [QUAD-L] Must go for a while....

[Stacy Harim]

Bye Dana,

You will be missed. I really appreciate you postings to the list and 
will miss them. Hurry back.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dana Miller 
  To: quad 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:27 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Must go for a 
  while
  I just have too much stuff on my plate right now to stay on all 
  my lists. Plus all the others are on yahoo and that takes longer to do 
  those than the outlook express page. I will miss all the goodies and 
  info from this list, but I will be back. Everyone take 
  care!Dana and Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore on butt

[Stacy Harim]

They gave me a deep contour 3 plus years ago when I came home. I hated it 
because I had issues getting the board under my butt. They gave me a J2 instead 
and never became an issue until just now. I dug up the deep contour to use 
the other day. I notice that it does give added cushion. I'm hoping that 
it will help. I can always get right off of it when I get home. If 
it comes to an issue that I need to write a paper, I can always write it out by 
hand first then type it up quickly. 

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 1:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore on 
  butt
   

  I use a Jay 2 deep contour gel cushion that is designed for people that 
  are at high risk for pressure sores. So far, knock on wood, I have not 
  even come close to having a pressure soar on my bottom or my thighs.
  
  Jim

Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore on butt

[Stacy Harim]

It's definitely skin against cushion. Strange where it is 
thought. It's hard to even try to describe where it is. It's more 
towards the pelvic area but not a highly boney area. I don't get it. 
I'm going to try to find a way to get a roho paid for. Any ideas?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List 
  Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:21 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] pressure sore on 
  butt
  
  
  
  Hi Stacy,
  
  Is the sore in a area where skin touches skin? or is it where skin 
  touches the cushion? Keeping it dryshould help if it's skin 
  against skin. A ROHO would help if it's skin against the cushion. 
  I hope you can get it started healing before school starts. Stay 
  strong.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
  USA  Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



Hey guys,

I have a pressure sore right on the inside of my thigh at the top. I 
had a pressure mapping but no pressure shows there so can't get Medicare to 
cover a different cushion. School starts soon and really can't afford to 
take off. Has anyone healed a sore while being up between 6-8 hours a 
day? Would a roho help? Thanks. I am so sick with myself 
over this. I'm trying to stay off of it in my current situation but 
it's hard when I live alone.

Thanks guys,
Stacy

[QUAD-L] pressure sore on butt

[Stacy Harim]

Hey guys,

I have a pressure sore right on the inside of my thigh at the top. I had a 
pressure mapping but no pressure shows there so can't get Medicare to cover a 
different cushion. School starts soon and really can't afford to take off. 
Has anyone healed a sore while being up between 6-8 hours a day? Would a 
roho help? Thanks. I am so sick with myself over this. I'm 
trying to stay off of it in my current situation but it's hard when I live 
alone.

Thanks guys,
Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] Exercise

[Stacy Harim]

Richard Simmons also has a seated aerobic workout. It's called Sit 
Tight. I like it a lot. Some leg stuff but there are people in 
chairs in the video as well.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 8:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Exercise
  
  Any of you guys exercise much?
   Greg,
  Yes, two to three times a week I do 
  Lisa Ericson's Seated Aerobic 
  Workout. 
  I LOVE IT! I am C 4,5,6 what level are you? If you'd like I can tell you more 
  about this exercise video.
   
  Bobbie
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Need your advice guys - Re: Triceps and More Triceps email

[Stacy Harim]

Hey Smurf,

Either you signed up or someone signed you up to receive emails from 
Kevin. He is in a program here in the states. It is some sort of 
exercise program that is supposed to help get people out of the chair. I 
checked into it a long time ago. It's called the sit tall stand tall 
program. Evidently it has helped a lot of people. I was receiving 
updates for someone else a while ago. It does cost a few bucks. 


Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 1:07 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Need your advice guys - 
  Re: "Triceps and More Triceps" email
  
  
  Hi ya guys,
  
  I received this email today but I'm not sure weather is a scam/virus 
  thing or not. I recognise the name, but I just wanted to see what you 
  all think about it before I start looking more into it.
  
  Cheers,
  
  Love Smurf xxx
  
  In a message dated 15/08/2005 06:55:46 GMT Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  

  
  

  
  


  

"Triceps and More 
Triceps"
By,
Kevin J. Mullin

Dear 
Smurf,
While finishing my 6th month at the 
program, I am starting to realize that in order for me to go 
faster, further, and do it in a short period of time-my tricep 
workouts are going to have to become my new best friend. 
Although my number one goal is to rid myself of this wheelchair 
and live a functional lifestyle, it will never happen unless I 
first conquer this wheelchair and learn to live functionally in 
it. In order for me to get up small hills, bumps, or wheel 
on carpet-I must build my core stomach muscles and my tricep 
muscles. To do this, I must wheel myself everywhere I go 
(in and outside the gym). Because of this, it has made it 
a very frustrating month. After talking with Mr. 
Weber, he explained that I cannot get frustrated easily because 
all that is doing is teaching my body to shut down when meeting 
new challenges. I cannot get to the next level if I keep 
this up. I have to be mindful of my emotions and keep a 
cool head if I want to reach my goals.
Since it has been six months, I 
have decided to do a recap of my accomplishments. I have 
rid myself of my electric wheelchair and I am knob free on my 
manual wheelchair. I can now fully feed myself and wheel 
over small bumps, carpets and small inclines. I no longer have 
blood pressure issues while standing up, and have gotten 
completely off all medications. Most important, I 
have gotten mentally stronger since I have started this 
program.
I also want to take this time 
and congratulate Tucker Fife on standing up and taking his first 
steps without leg braces on. What a true inspiration it is 
to watch Tucker achieve his goals.
Another person I want to 
congratulate is Julie for doing such an exceptional job in such 
a short period of time. I really am amazed at the progress 
one person can make when they set their mind to it. 

I want to take this 
moment to thank each and every one of you again for the support 
and prayers while I am on this journey. I made a personal 
decision to use my website as a medium to keep all informed on 
my progress. This is the best way for me to communicate with all 
of you and not forget anyone person. Please take a moment if you 
have not yet done so and sign up for my emails and video updates 
on the top right hand corner of my new website at 
www.kevinjmullin.com. I plan on sending 
more video updates ASAP. Please view the new video updates below 
fromMay 1st, 2005 titled "Always Preparing For The Next 
Step!" 

Click 
Below:
Kevin'sJuly 
Workout 
"Triceps and More 
Triceps"
Click 
Below:


  
  

  Click 
  Here

Best 
Regards,
Kevin 


 

Re: [QUAD-L] bowel mgmt

[Stacy Harim]

Yes, that is the name of the procedure. The chait (c-tube) is 
the device that is connected to my large intestine. The only thing is I 
haven't started using the enema with it yet. Would Medicare or Medicaid 
pay for it I wonder since I have something connected to me that would require 
it. The saline should be more for rinsing I see when I looked it up on the 
net. Then I wouldn't need the extra 250 cc's. 

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Olson 
  To: Stacy Harim 
  Cc: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:27 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel mgmt
  Is that like a cecostomy?EricStacy 
  Harim wrote: 
  

When I had my mitrofanoff procedure, the doc suggested a chait 
catheter. It is connected to my large intestines. I use an enema bag 
and hang it on my shower curtain rod (my toilet/shower chair is in there the 
bars in the tub help me w/my transfer) anyhow, I put in 500cc's of saline 
and it pushes my stool through.I still use the magic bullet to 
get myself started while I wait for the water to come through but it isn't 
necessary. It is so fast by only taking about 20 mins. If it looks 
like there is more, I dump in another 250. It has made my life so much 
easier.

Im going Friday to see if the mitrofanoff can be fixed. I'll let 
everyone know when I get home.  

Re: [QUAD-L] new to this

[Stacy Harim]

Hi Rob,

I moved out on my own from rehab about 4 years ago. I was 28 when I 
did it, but the first thing I did was try to locate accessible housing, I 
contacted HUD so I could get assistance, and I also contacted those here that 
control the WAIVER program. That covers attendant care to get help with 
dressing, bathing, errands, cleaning, etc. If you have any questions or want 
some advice I'd be glad to help you out. What state are you in?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:11 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] new to this
  
  I'm a new subscriber and i am trying to move out of 
  my parents home and be on my own. I'm a 19 C2 incomplete ventilator 
  dependant quad. I need some advice on what i need to do. I realize 
  that I'll have to have someone live with me for my care. can i get your 
  input on what's the best thing to 
do.

Re: [QUAD-L] I'm back

[Stacy Harim]

Welcome back with us Houston, I hope things are going better with 
you.

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] bowel mgmt

[Stacy Harim]

When I had my mitrofanoff procedure, the doc suggested a chait 
catheter. It is connected to my large intestines. I use an enema bag and 
hang it on my shower curtain rod (my toilet/shower chair is in there the bars in 
the tub help me w/my transfer) anyhow, I put in 500cc's of saline and it pushes 
my stool through.I still use the magic bullet to get myself started 
while I wait for the water to come through but it isn't necessary. It is 
so fast by only taking about 20 mins. If it looks like there is more, I dump in 
another 250. It has made my life so much easier.

Im going Friday to see if the mitrofanoff can be fixed. I'll let 
everyone know when I get home.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: B. 
  Kimberlin (Quadius) 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 6:22 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel mgmt
  
  FYI, I ran into some difficulty when my local supplier started using a 
  knock off of the Magic Bullet. It had the active ingredient, but did not 
  work effectively for me. In fact, it ended up causing severe bowel 
  difficulty. I tried Enemeez and even had my doctor prescribe a liquid 
  enema using 30 mg of bisacodyl and neither of these work. I was 
  relegated to paying the high price when the Magic Bullet was not being 
  produced and which are happy to see it finally in production once again. 
  I guess I am addicted. Lately I have been using what my doctor 
  prescribed (a small dose of go lightly [spelling]) and it has shortened my 
  bowel program considerably. I had to experiment with the dosage, but 
  finally have my program much more under control and am able to get back out 
  into the public more often.Billy t crook 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

I started using a brand named Good Neighbor 
Pharmacy. They are called Bis A-Lax. The active ingredient is Bisacodyl, the 
inactive ingredients are cetyl esters wax, hydrogenated vegetable oil, and 
lanolin. They have consistently trimmed time off my program. I don't know if 
the lanolin has helped. Or just the fact that chronic use of anything 
andthe body will get touse to it. Thus, will eventuallynot 
work as well as it did.Liz 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  
  

  can't hurt
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 
10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel 
mgmt

 I am curious about the Magic Bullets you guy's talk 
about...I have been using ducolax or walgreens brand suppositories 
for 8 years..Do you guy's think Magic Bullets work better or may be 
better because as you mentioned they are water based ?? I'm 
wondering if I should try them.
 
Thanks, 
Dan
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Re: [QUAD-L] bowel mgmt

[Stacy Harim]

They work faster. for me sometimes before they are finished 
melting.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:31 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bowel mgmt
  
   I am curious about the Magic Bullets you guy's talk 
  about...I have been using ducolax or walgreens brand suppositories for 8 
  years..Do you guy's think Magic Bullets work better or may be better 
  because as you mentioned they are water based ?? I'm wondering if I 
  should try them.
   
  Thanks, 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Controlling other computers

[Stacy Harim]

Thanks for explaining it for me Jim, I don't use any of the features so 
don't know much about them. I recently installed pro bc my school gives it for 
free but my scanner doesn't work with it or my cd burning software so I am going 
back to the home edition. I am going to keep the pro on hand though.

Thanks again,
Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Lubin 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Eric Olson 
  ; quad 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:15 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Controlling other 
  computers
  Pro features that aren't in Home 
  EditionRemote Desktop - All versions of Windows XP--including Home 
  Edition--support Remote Assistance, which is an assisted support technology 
  that allows a help desk or system administrator to remotely connect to a 
  client desktop for troubleshooting purposes. But Only Pro supports the new 
  Remote Desktop feature, which is a single-session version of Terminal Services 
  with two obvious uses: Mobile professionals who need to remotely access their 
  corporate desktop, and remote administration of clients on a network. You can 
  access a Windows XP Remote Desktop from any OS that supports a Terminal 
  Services client (such as Windows 98 and, interestingly XP Home). XP Home can 
  act as the client in a Remote Desktop session; only Pro can be the 
  server.At 10:52 PM 8/9/2005, Stacy Harim wrote:
  I thought you could do it with 
home as well.Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Lubin 
  To: Eric Olson ; quad 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Controlling other computers
  If the remote (mom's) computers are running XP PRO then you can enable 
  remote desktop. 
  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/remoteintro.mspx 
  
  it's free and buit-into XP PRO.
  I use it all the time for the same reason you want, to control mom's 
  computer. I've used it to remotely control my uncle's computer in Hawaii 
  too. 
  I have also used TightVNC http://www.tightvnc.com/ to control a Win 98SE 
  computer, haven't tried it on XP Home or Pro.
  At 11:17 AM 8/8/2005, Eric Olson wrote:
  
Gang O' Gimps,
I finally have my my own little network at home. My desktop 
upstairs, my mother's desktop downstairs, and my mother's laptop. 
Anyway, mother isn't the most computer literate person in the world so 
it would be much easier for me to be able to control her computer than 
to try to explain to her what she needs to do. Anyone know a good 
program for doing that? Thanks
Eric
  
  Jim 
  Lubin 
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Bothell, WA, USA 
  http://makoa.org/jim 
  disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.org 

  Transverse Myelitis Association: http://www.myelitis.org/HowToHelp
  
  Jim 
  Lubin 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Bothell, WA, USA http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.orgTransverse Myelitis Association: 
  http://www.myelitis.org/HowToHelp

Re: [QUAD-L] wheelchair drop out

[Stacy Harim]

I'm glad your safe and someone saw you to help you. Was it hard 
having only one person to help you into your chair?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:21 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] wheelchair drop 
  out
  
  hello everyone
  
  i was just sitting outside looking at the ducksby the lake in our 
  backyard with my dog, Daisy. doesn't her name just sound so sweet. well 
  that sweet dog just pulled me out of my chair trying too get the ducks. 
  i caught myself at first but i had the leashwrapped around my hand and 
  she finished the job she started. to make things worst it started to 
  rain. luckily there was a man across the lake that helped me back in my 
  chair. this is the second time she's done it and i guess ididn't 
  learn my lesson the first time.icouldn't punish her because 
  by the time i was back where i could, she had already forgotten what she 
  did. now she'slaying insideby my chair because she's scared 
  of thunder. poor baby.
  
  luke

Re: [QUAD-L] Controlling other computers

[Stacy Harim]

I thought you could do it with home as well.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Lubin 
  To: Eric Olson ; quad 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 9:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Controlling other 
  computers
  If the remote (mom's) computers are running XP PRO 
  then you can enable remote desktop. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/remoteintro.mspx 
  it's free and buit-into XP PRO.I use it all the time for the same 
  reason you want, to control mom's computer. I've used it to remotely control 
  my uncle's computer in Hawaii too. I have also used TightVNC http://www.tightvnc.com/ to control a Win 98SE computer, 
  haven't tried it on XP Home or Pro.At 11:17 AM 8/8/2005, Eric Olson 
  wrote:
  Gang O' Gimps,I finally 
have my my own little network at home. My desktop upstairs, my 
mother's desktop downstairs, and my mother's laptop. Anyway, mother 
isn't the most computer literate person in the world so it would be much 
easier for me to be able to control her computer than to try to explain to 
her what she needs to do. Anyone know a good program for doing 
that? ThanksEric
  Jim 
  Lubin 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Bothell, WA, USA http://makoa.org/jim disAbility Resources: http://www.makoa.orgTransverse Myelitis Association: 
  http://www.myelitis.org/HowToHelp

Re: [QUAD-L] Just found the site-Awesome!

[Stacy Harim]

Welcome to the group Greg. I'm Stacy Para T 7/8 from a rare type of 
encephalitis.I look forward to reading your posts.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:02 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Just found the 
  site-Awesome!
  
  
  My name is Dana. Welcome to the group. Glad to have you 
  aboard.Dana (C 4-5, 31 years post-, 51, KC) In a message dated 
  8/7/2005 5:02:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   


Hi,

My name's Greg, I'm a 
C3/4 quad and I'm glad to find such a unique group to be a part of, I look 
forward to corresponding!

Greg

www.3-7-12.com 

www.secondencore.com/GregHarry 

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.

[Stacy Harim]

That does it for me then. I in no way can afford another payment of 
any sort. It doesn't seem feasible for me. I have this van still. 
the money was approved for the modifications with the waiver program and now 
someone new took over the position and they want to go over it again. I'm 
keeping my fingers crossed.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Hickey 
  To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 4:09 
  PM
  Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.
  
  
  Hi Stacy, Mark is correct. You do not have to be 
  working, it just makes the plan much easier to write and justify. From what I 
  understand is if your business plan is solid and you can show income potential 
  then DVR can hold the note. Meaning DVR can purchase the van/modifications and 
  you pay the monthly van payment to them with your earned income. 
  
  That is GREAT news Mark!! Let me tell you, the 
  FREEDOM feeling is so amazing. 
  
  Sorry I have not posted in so long. Here is a bit 
  of an update.
  
  I have just completed my first official month for 
  my PASS planas a Professional Archery Instructor. My gross sales were 22 
  lessonstotaling $830.00!! WOOHOO!! 
  
  Ihave been so busy and so happy that I am 
  back to work, I kinda forgot about my 15th quad anniversaryon August, 
  4th 
  
  I'm celebrating LIFE today by having a "fight 
  night party" at my house. On Spike TV this evening, my high school locker 
  partner, Ivan Salaverry is fighting on Ultimate Fighting Championship Live. 
  Tuff matchup as he is fighting a 7 time champion. It should be a 
  blast.
  
  I do have a huge feeling of accomplishment and a 
  renewed zest for life. 
  
  One thing that I am personally proud of is 
  dreaming ofthis mobile coaching idea, 
  planning for it, believing I could do it, 
  convincing others I could do it, having the courage and 
  faith that it would happen, sticking to my guns 
  andmaking my dreams become reality. 5+ years, 600+ emails, at least 8 
  revisions of my plan, hundreds of phone calls, miles of red tape later and 
  here I am.back in the fast lane of life.
  
  It is so tuff to explain the feeling in words, 
  but like Tony once said "it feels like being released from prison". 
  
  
  Bobbie.if you read this, the one thing I 
  believe you would miss by not waking up one day ..is "Life". 
  
  I have it "pretty rough" at work. Just look at 
  this pic of one of my new studentsinmy office the view is 
  great from my desk!!! 
  
  I love saying."at work today" "I'll pick 
  you up" "lets meet'".."im driving""want me to go get it"."im 
  leaving" and "heybaby lets go for a ride"...lol 
  
  Im so glad things went smoothly Mark! Way to 
  go.
  
  See ya in the fast lane of Life!! Beep, 
  Beep!!
  
  Bob
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  
From: 
David K. Kelmer 
To: QuadPirate ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:01 
AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.


Hi QP,Great news! Do you have a van in mind that you 
want? How long before you'll have enough to buy? Really happy 
for you!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
USAQuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  


  
Awesome news people I just had my PASS plan approved 
today!
I get to start putting away $500 a month from SS to purchase a 
new or slightly used van next month.

I encourage everyone to try to put a plan together before they 
cut these programs so start yours today.

Mark

  

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.

[Stacy Harim]

DVR wouldn't pay for it b/c the van is too old but if it doesn't go through 
with the waiver, I will most definitely go to the direction of the PASS 
program. thanks so much for the info guys. You were most helpful in 
answering my questions.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Hickey 
  To: QuadPirate ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Stacy Harim 
  Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 4:14 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.
  
  
  Stacy,
  
  If it has been pre approved it shouldnt be a 
  problem for the newDVR councilorto go over. With you already 
  having a van they should completely fund/grant the modifications at no cost to 
  you without to much hassle. You should not have to pay back any $$ for the 
  conversions. The payment options are fora new or used vehicle if you 
  didnt have one prior. 
  
  It will go thru.just keep on them and 
  dont take no for an answer. 
  
  Bob
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
QuadPirate 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; Bob 
Hickey ; Stacy Harim 
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 12:58 
PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.


  
  
You need to ask Bob how it works when you're 
  not working yet because it's a little confusing on the 
  money but it shouldn't cost you anything until your PASS is 
  finished.
  Call them and ask questions.
  
  
  Mark
  
  ---Original 
  Message---
  
  
  From: Stacy Harim
  Date: 08/08/05 
  07:32:43
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com; Bob 
  Hickey
  Subject: Re: 
  [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.
  
  
  That does it for me then. I in no way can afford another 
  payment of any sort. It doesn't seem feasible for me. I 
  have this van still. the money was approved for the modifications with 
  the waiver program and now someone new took over the position and they 
  want to go over it again. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
  
  Stacy
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob 
  Hickey 
  To: Stacy Harim ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 
  4:09 PM
  Subject: Fw: [QUAD-L] 
  P.A.S.S.
  
  
  Hi Stacy, Mark is correct. You do not 
  have to be working, it just makes the plan much easier to write and 
  justify. From what I understand is if your business plan is solid and 
  you can show income potential then DVR can hold the note. Meaning DVR 
  can purchase the van/modifications and you pay the monthly van payment 
  to them with your earned income. 
  
  That is GREAT news Mark!! Let me tell 
  you, the FREEDOM feeling is so amazing. 
  
  Sorry I have not posted in so long. Here 
  is a bit of an update.
  
  I have just completed my first official 
  month for my PASS planas a Professional Archery Instructor. My 
  gross sales were 22 lessonstotaling $830.00!! WOOHOO!! 
  
  
  Ihave been so busy and so happy 
  that I am back to work, I kinda forgot about my 15th quad 
  anniversaryon August, 4th 
  
  I'm celebrating LIFE today by having a 
  "fight night party" at my house. On Spike TV this evening, my high 
  school locker partner, Ivan Salaverry is fighting on Ultimate Fighting 
  Championship Live. Tuff matchup as he is fighting a 7 time champion. 
  It should be a blast.
  
  I do have a huge feeling of 
  accomplishment and a renewed zest for life. 
  
  One thing that I am personally proud of 
  is dreaming ofthis mobile coaching idea, 
  planning for it, believing I could 
  do it, convincing others I could do it, having the 
  courage and faith that it would 
  happen, sticking to my guns andmaking my dreams become reality. 
  5+ years, 600+ emails, at least 8 revisions of my plan, hundreds of 
  phone calls, miles of red tape later and here I am.back in the 
  fast lane of life.
  
  It is so tuff to explain the feeling in 
  words, but like Tony once said "it feels like being released from 
  prison". 
  
  Bobbie.if you read this, the one 
  thing I believe you would miss by not waking up one day .is 
  "Life". 
  
  I have it "pretty rough" at work. Just 
  look at this pic of one of my new studentsinmy office 
  the view is great from my desk!!! 
  
  I love saying."at work today" 
  "I'll pick you up" &qu

Re: [QUAD-L] Surgery

[Stacy Harim]

I for one am glad that you were not there. It's so scary to think that this 
can happen but then to have someone I know to be there or that close makes it 
hit home for real. Nothing I can do but pray that these bombings 
stop I'm glad your safe,

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:32 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Surgery
  
  In a message dated 27/07/2005 22:23:00 GMT Standard Time, 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:Hi Smurf,I will say a prayer for you so your 
  surgery will go well. Take care of yourself and stay 
  strong. Is the 'Tube' wheelchair accessible? If so 
  remember to keep your eyes open and your head 
  down!With Love,CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 
  Years PostTexas, USA Hi Dave,How are 
  you? hope your well! thankfully I didn't have to go 
  anywhere near London so I was well out of danger. Although 
  having said that, one of the stations that was evacuated - 
  London Victoria is the station at the end of line that 
  Sittingbourne (my home town) is on. Pretty scary to think that 
  Victoria is in central London. Only some of the tube 
  stations have disabled access, although I think the 
  bombings proves the point that should anything like that 
  happened again, God forbid, and there was a disabled on board, 
  there would be no way of getting the disabled out of the 
  train safely. That's the UK for you!Wanna know 
  something more scary though? If I had got to the GB squad 
  trials and got in, on the day of the bombings I would've 
  been at Kings Cross station around the time that the explosion 
  happened..Take care,Love Smurf 
xxx

Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

[Stacy Harim]

I have found that older people sometimes just want to help. I think 
it's a sweet story.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 11:53 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People 
  ask us Quads.
  I would have given her 2 fives for her ten, then trump her, 
  lolWIn a message dated 8/7/05 10:46:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: one day i was sitting outside of Target, minding my 
  own business, waiting for my mom and some old lady walked up and 
  tried to give me ten dollars. she looked like she needed 
  it more than me, though. so i declined. luke 
  

Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.

[Stacy Harim]

Oh one last question. I always thought you had to be working because 
you need that to set your money aside. Do you know if that's true?

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: QuadPirate 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; David K. Kelmer ; Stacy Harim 
  Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 3:22 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.
  
  

  
Stacy,
It took me all of 2 1/2 weeks to get mine started.
They are supposed to get back with you in 10 days and discuss it if 
there's a problem. They also will let you know what the problem is and 
what they need you to to approve your plan.
I have a page onmy web site that gives you a tutorial and you 
can fill out your plan there and print it out and send it in.
www.rollin-on.org click the P.A.S.S. 
page.

Mark

---Original 
Message---


From: Stacy Harim
Date: 08/06/05 
19:53:23
To: QuadPirate; quad-list@eskimo.com; David K. Kelmer
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
P.A.S.S.


How long did the whole process take to get the plan approved since 
you started it? I got monies approved to modify the van to work 
for me through the waiver now someone new took over the position and 
decided to reevaluate it. How rude. I'll prob still get it 
though.

Stacy

- Original Message - 
From: QuadPirate 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; David K. Kelmer 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 
12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
P.A.S.S.


  
  

  I'm going to start looking.
  I'd really like a small van because I just hate lifts I'd 
  rather have aramp. I feellike a spectacle sometimes 
  getting in  out of my van because it doesn't have a dropped 
  floor so I have to tilt back to get in or out and just 
  sux.
  But I like more room too so I'm open for suggestions 
  plus I'm wanting to drive and should be going to get evaluated and 
  I'm sure they'll have some great suggestions.
  
  
  ---Original 
  Message---
  
  
  From: David K. 
  Kelmer
  Date: 08/06/05 
  10:01:36
  To: QuadPirate; quad-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: 
  [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.
  
  
  Hi QP,Great news! Do you have a van in mind 
  that you want? How long before you'll have enough to 
  buy? Really happy for you!
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years 
  PostTexas, USAQuadPirate 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  


  
Awesome news people I just had my PASS plan approved 
today!
I get to start putting away $500 a month from SS to 
purchase a new or slightly used van next month.

I encourage everyone to try to put a plan together 
before they cut these programs so start yours today.

Mark

  

  
  



  
  

  


  
  
  


  

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Banking

[Stacy Harim]

I use bank of america. Free online checking. Once I set up my 
payments it's only a matter of typing in the amount that I want to pay and 
clicking the pay button. I can even have my check sent to my land lord. 
It's so incredibly easy it's crazy. They are polite if I have to call or 
go in as well. Oh and if you have direct deposit checking is free as 
well. Best thing I ever did after being disgusted with the 3 banks I have 
had prior.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: David K. Kelmer 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 2:57 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Banking
  
  
  
  
  Hi Dan,
  
  I still have an account that I opened in '70. It's a Chase/Bank One 
  now but was aValley NationalBank back then.I still use 
  that account today.
  
  With Love,
  CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

 Other bank accountsWow must be nice to have 
so many lol
 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Banking

[Stacy Harim]

With bank of america they give you a key chain debit card. I gave it to my 
friend that helps me so she has it in case I need her to grab me something if 
she is already out. No one questions it. The online banking is the 
same. LOVE IT!!

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 11:50 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Banking
  
  
  I have Bank that is called Capitol Federal PS. You make a payee 
  list and all you have to do is: number and punch in what payee you want to 
  pay, how much and the date. I also use a signature stamp for everything, 
  and I have never had refused at any store for stamps or credit card 
  purchases. I have my credit card at companies I do business with a lot, 
  like where I order chux, pharmacy. I don't have to write very many 
  checks, which makes things so much more simple. One time an aide use one 
  of my credit card, but I was not liable for any of the charges. I guess 
  I have been lucky. They keep wanting me to buy any plan to protect my 
  credit card but I never have.  If I order anything through the Internet 
  I usually call the 800-number to give my number. I have never used a 
  debit card.Dana (C 4-5, 31 years post, 51, KC)In a message dated 
  8/4/2005 12:27:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] insert after bal.net 
  writes:
   

I mainly use my Debit Card and do online banking myself, 
if I have to write a check I do and my handwriting isn't always the same 
either, but since I dont write many checks soits easy to keep 
track of the checks that go through. 

gina


QuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  


  
I was told when I opened my account to buy a 
rubberstampandjust draw an X with myname 
beside itgo get an ID made with this on it and then open an 
account but I only write about 14-18 checks a year, I usually 
use a debit card and pay all but 1 bill usingon-line 
banking.

Mark
But don't lose your stamp!

---Original 
Message---


From: Shahidul Alam
Date: 08/04/05 
09:46:43
To: Quad
Subject: [QUAD-L] 
Banking

Hey QG,

How you all manage your Bank accounts. They need signatures on 
many things.

I can write using an "universal cuff" but the writing is never 
the same style.

Would using a mouthstick help?

Now I have to keep money on others (brother) name. I wish, I 
could keep my money in my own account. Anybody has experience 
?

Any input will be appreciated.

Please take care :-)

Shahidul


  

  
  



  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Gut vs a lil gut

[Stacy Harim]

I eat very little white. You are right though. When I first started I 
did lose a lot but I still have a belly. A lot of it has to do with having 
such a long torso though. While I am laying down there isn't a whole lot 
there but sitting up I look pregnant. People are almost shocked if I show 
them by pushing myself up on my armrests.

Stacy


  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:16 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Gut vs a lil gut
  I challenge any body builder to sit in a chair for just a week 
  and watch what happens. In a sitting position, the stomach is most 
  relaxed, so it tends to bulge.But to reduce the Budda, cut out the 
  white stuff and you will see the resultsin just a weeks time. 
  That includes all the fun foods like potatoes and icecream, sugar and 
  dairy products. If you must cheat, cheat just a little and 
  youwill still see the difference.Practice, practice, 
  practicewIn a message dated 8/6/05 12:00:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: Don't ya hate it? I generally lose most of my belly 
  when I have a bowel movement. I just thought it was caused by 
  repetitive gas buildups. My gut disappears completely when I'm about 
  120 lbs. Since I'm 6 ft. 3 in. in tall, (I was rather) I think 
  that is a bit anorexic. My spine has horrible curves and spurs, so 
  I'm down to about 5 ft. 9 in. laying in the bed. I had nice abbs 
  when I was in the accident that messed me up. I hadn't thought 
  about this gut in years. Now, I'm going to think about it again! 
  NOT! 

Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.

[Stacy Harim]

How long did the whole process take to get the plan approved since you 
started it? I got monies approved to modify the van to work for me through 
the waiver now someone new took over the position and decided to reevaluate 
it. How rude. I'll prob still get it though.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: QuadPirate 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com ; David K. Kelmer 
  Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 12:42 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] P.A.S.S.
  
  

  
I'm going to start looking.
I'd really like a small van because I just hate lifts I'd rather 
have aramp. I feellike a spectacle sometimes getting in 
 out of my van because it doesn't have a dropped floor so I have 
to tilt back to get in or out and just sux.
But I like more room too so I'm open for suggestions plus I'm 
wanting to drive and should be going to get evaluated and I'm sure 
they'll have some great suggestions.


---Original 
Message---


From: David K. Kelmer
Date: 08/06/05 
10:01:36
To: QuadPirate; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
P.A.S.S.


Hi QP,Great news! Do you have a van in mind that you 
want? How long before you'll have enough to buy? Really 
happy for you!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, 
USAQuadPirate [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:



  
  

  Awesome news people I just had my PASS plan approved 
  today!
  I get to start putting away $500 a month from SS to purchase 
  a new or slightly used van next month.
  
  I encourage everyone to try to put a plan together before 
  they cut these programs so start yours today.
  
  Mark
  

  


  
  
  


  

  
  

Re: [QUAD-L] Banking

[Stacy Harim]

I absolutely love my online banking through bank of america. free 
checking with direct deposit and free bill pay online. I have the 
addresses stored to who I owe money to. I type in the amount I want to pay 
and click send. It's so easy and they will mail out a check to whomever 
you need to send money to. It's the best.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dana Miller 
  To: 'Quad' 
  Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 8:53 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Banking
  My mom is on my checking account for times when I'm in the 
  hospital or in bed. It is for convenience but has worked well. 
  I write a lot of checks. My Identity was stolen last Januarary by an 
  attendant and now she is going thru the court system. It was all 
  done electronically--no signatures were needed anywhere! It was 
  caught early by American Express so nothing of mine was damaged. 
  Bank of America will get the biggest loss. Plus she filed a tax 
  return and had the return put electronically into a checking account that 
  my attendant had opened with Bank of America, $4700. The IRS did 
  not even notice that I had not filed a return in 20 years! My father 
  had a few words for them!The weekend the police were set up to 
  arrest her-the night before she had given me her 2 weeks notice! I 
  thought she was going to skip town! My regular attendant was set to 
  come in and work after they had her in custody. She, the guilty party, was 
  not there when the police were here, so they were going to her apartment 
  to get her. They no sooner leave than she calls asking if I need her 
  to come work!I said no, but both me and my attendant were nervous 
  wrecks! At least we knew she was home!In about 30 minutes the 
  officer called and said they had her.Basically this is all to say 
  noone cares about names or signatures anymore. Another attendant put white 
  out over a name and wrote hers in and took a lady's rent money!. My 
  attendants forge my and another guys name all the time on time sheets and 
  many other docuents. These are gals that have worked for me 
  for a long time--years. The other one I don't trust. I'm 
  thinking about going to a debit card and computer banking. Does 
  anyone do that and how safe do you think it is? I about fell over 
  when I ordered checks again and found out how much they were. 
  Homemakers are more prone to "add" things onto the list when its easier to 
  lose the reciept. take care,Dana and Rocco[EMAIL PROTECTED]- Original 
  Message - From: "Karen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  "'Shahidul Alam'" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "'Quad'" quad-list@eskimo.comSent: 
  Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:32 PMSubject: RE: [QUAD-L] 
  BankingEven before coming home from the hospital it was suggested 
  we get astamp made of my son’s signature. This we did and have 
  used it whenclosing sale of house and such. Also I can use the 
  stamp when havingto take care of something for him. 
  Otherwise he signs the best he canand there has never been a 
  problem. Like someone said, maintainingsecurity of the stamp 
  is important. Recently my son was notified thatsomeone had used his 
  debit card in New York for $400 plus dollars at aToys R Us. It 
  wasn’t him and his card was in his possession. Wewonder 
  if someone overheard him give his pin number to his brother’swhen making a 
  purchase. An employee who had access to account number.My son often 
  lets someone assist him with debit card purchases and thisis where his 
  account is more at risk.Karen-Original 
  Message-From: Shahidul Alam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
  Thursday, August 04, 2005 9:41 AMTo: QuadSubject: [QUAD-L] 
  BankingHey QG,How you all manage your Bank accounts. They need 
  signatures on manythings.I can write using an "universal cuff" but 
  the writing is never the samestyle.Would using a mouthstick 
  help?Now I have to keep money on others (brother) name. I wish, I 
  could keepmy money in my own account. Anybody has experience ?Any 
  input will be appreciated.Please take care 
  :-)Shahidul--No virus found in this incoming 
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Re: [QUAD-L] Gut

[Stacy Harim]

I'm a para at T 7. I have a long torso. I do exercise. I 
push my chair a lot. I'm up and down my ramp several times a day and it's 
a fairly long ramp since my house is pretty high up because it's raised. I 
live near the ocean where the water table is high and flood concerns. Anyhow I 
also push quitea bit at school andI diet. I'm not small person 
with a large bone structure. I do have a belly. My arms, legs, and 
face are fairly thin but my belly is hard to get rid of.I have seen many 
people in chairs that are thin but I think they are small people in 
general. I also think that if you don’t have a belly to begin with then 
your chances are better but once you get one it's harder to get rid of it. 
In my opinion.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ol' Man 
  River 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 4:47 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Gut
  
  my doc keeps thinking there's some exercises i can do to 'build up' 
  strength or maybe work down my quad belly. maybe he's right...
  dave c3 inc. 1967Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  



I think quad-guts are mostly on C5's and higher. At least the C6's I 
know can push their own manual chairs and have more stomach muscles. As a C5 
there are not many exercises I can do. Other than lift my arms high and 
swing them around. I've used weights, but 1 pound and I can't do it much. I 
try and twist my body as fast and much as I can, but in 15 seconds I'm out 
of breath and dizzy.
GregDave(what's a quad?) 
  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] Internet myths

[Stacy Harim]

www.urbanlegends.com is one of the few 
that are out there.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: B. 
  Kimberlin (Quadius) 
  To: Aaron Mann ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:56 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Internet 
myths
  
  This might have been a for use of words. I just remember reading 
  about the issue with the Lincoln and Kennedy coincidences. After 
  finishing Assassination Vacation I wanted to check on 
  something.BillyAaron Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

What myth? Is it Urban, mythological, 
...


From: B. Kimberlin (Quadius) 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 6:16 
PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] Internet 
myths
Does anyone know the web site where one can look up and determine 
if something is a myth or not?Billy 


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Re: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us Quads.

[Stacy Harim]

People ask me. I tell them that I got a rare illness 4 years ago that 
left me paralyzed and they ask will I get better. That's no so silly 
except for the people that I have gotten in detail with and I tell them that 
there hasn't been any improvement in over 3. I have even had nurses ask me 
if I can stand up. UGH NO I'm paralyzed is what I think but like 
Billy, I don’t want to come off rude so I just tell them nicely as with the 
getting better question.

Stacu

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:52 
  AM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Questions People ask us 
  Quads.
  
   At Least Once A Month , people in my 
  neighborhood and at church or etc. will ask about my injury---I tell them 
  i'm paralyzed from upper chest down and a c-6 Quadriplegic from a car wreck on 
  Aug. 3rd 1997.Then they ask how far can I walk on my own without my 
  powerchairAre most people really this dumb or just 
  uninformed ? 
   
  Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] red bumpy skin after sun

[Stacy Harim]

Half of my medicines have said it for years. I guess one of them 
finally showed the side effect. I know to be more careful now. 
Thanks for the advice.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Your Name 
  To: Stacy Harim ; Quad-List 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] red bumpy skin 
  after sun
  Diatrics often have the same warning on the label.Check all 
  your meds.Stunt  Hi Stacy,  
  Check with your Pharmacist about the antibiotic you're on. Most 
  antibiotics warn about staying out of the sun while you're using 
  them. Stay strong.  With Love, 
   CtrlAltDel aka Dave C4/5 Complete - 29 Years Post 
  Texas, USA   Stacy Harim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: Has anyone had and instances that you were out in the sun for a 
  while and your skin turns red and bumpy. It doesn't hurt very much 
  just bumpy on the areas that I got the most sun. This confuses me 
  because I have never really had any problems with the sun until now. 
  I'm wondering if it's one of my medicines but I have been taking the 
  same things for 4 yrs except I am on an antibiotic. I'm one of those 
  people that just tan well and don't have any problems. Until 
  now. Happen to anyone else?  Stacy 
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[QUAD-L] sneak peak murderball

[Stacy Harim]

There will be a sneak peak for murderball on MTV at 11:00.

Stacy

Re: [QUAD-L] red bumpy skin after sun

[Stacy Harim]

I was worried so I didn't go out for a couple of days and they went away 
for the most part and my skin isn't damaged at all. I definitely think it 
was the antibiotics. Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Quad-List@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 11:11 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] red bumpy skin 
  after sun
   

  hi Stacey,
  
  I get the same red bumps from being out in the sun. It's almost 
  like a major case of the Goosebumps.
  
  Jim

Re: [QUAD-L] accessibility

[Stacy Harim]

Title: accessibility




Curb cuts are a big problem here and crowded stores w/merchandise, ilses 
too narrow, etc.. Stores that just have too much stuff. The big one, 
bathrooms are supposed be handicapped accessible. they throw up some rails 
no matter how narrow and call it accessible. There are 2 at school I can't 
even shut the door on my own b/c if I back in I cant turn around and if go in 
forward I can't reach the door behind me to close it. My favorite there 
was the button to open the door at the top of the ramp.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Cameron Wallace 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 5:51 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] accessibility
  
  Hello people 
  I know there are ADA parameters 
  as to what "is and is not" ADA compliant but what are some of your pet peeves 
  when these issues are handled by AB designers/architects.
  One of mine is the sensitivity of 
  incorporating a retrofit ramp to an older building. Not only the 
  design, but also the location. I do not like entering through a 
  kitchen.
  -Cameron 

Re: [QUAD-L] red bumpy skin after sun

[Stacy Harim]

I don’t wear shorts. I make sure to wear thin pants. Between my 
thighs being a little chubby, having a catheter and the stockings for 
circulation, short don’t look very nice on me. I tan my upper half.

Stacy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Win 
  To: Quad-List 
  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] red bumpy skin 
  after sun
  I first started to answer this 10 minutes ago, but after 
  thinking about it, I realized that I might have been taking medications 
  20-30 years ago when I used to enjoy going out in the sun. So, I really 
  don't know if the red blotches I used to get were due to the drugs or not. 
  (I forget how long ago it was when I gave up on taking all the drugs the 
  doctors would prescribe.)I do remember that my skin would look weird 
  after being out in the sun: it would have red spots surrounded by a thin 
  white line (but only where I have limited sensation). I have always 
  assumed that the blotches were due to bad blood circulation, but it could 
  have been due to medication.I should go back out in the sun to see if 
  that still happens. Trouble is, wearing shorts when you have a quad-tummy 
  really doesn't look very attractive.WinC6-C7, 30 years 
  postAt 05:30 PM 7/28/2005, Stacy Harim wrote:Has anyone 
  had and instances that you were out in the sun for a while and your 
  skin turns red and bumpy. It doesn't hurt very much just bumpy on 
  the areas that I got the most sun. This confuses me because I 
  have never really had any problems with the sun until now. I'm 
  wondering if it's one of my medicines but I have been taking the 
  same things for 4 yrs except I am on an antibiotic. I'm one of 
  those people that just tan well and don't have any problems. 
  Until now. Happen to anyone else?Stacy-- 
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