Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Perhaps it might help if you know how things are done in the US. Here's a movie out today about the Gary Webb, a newspaper reporter who exposed Iran Contra and later committed suicide (more likely suicided): Why more likely? I've said it before, governments do shady deals like this. They do it because they think it will ultimately do us (and them) a favour by tilting world influence away from unfriendly powers. Trouble is it might be technically illegal under international law so a bit of subterfuge is necessary. The CIA helped dispose of many governments that adopted left wing governments and deprived US companies of their money in favour of keeping it in the country. Iran, Guatemala, Chile etc.. All this is known and the orders came from the top and none of it remained secret for very long. What you don't have with the 9/11 conspiracy is any sort of reason for it, or any sort of organisation that could do the job and keep it secret. But it's the point of the whole thing that baffles me. What did it achieve? They got rid of a few embarrassing documents, great but couldn't they have gone in at night or even ordered a member of staff to remove them as it was their building? And remote control planes just adds another huge layer of people that would have to keep quite. I'm English, I don't need telling that our government plays a double game on the world stage. But you have to see everything in a context of cost/benefit or you have to start inventing things to justify your beliefs and I think the truthers are far into that behaviour. Just think, if the buildings hadn't gone and collapsed this conversation wouldn't be happening. http://youtu.be/VW4XO-52ubE http://youtu.be/VW4XO-52ubE Seems that the CIA has started to come forward and say that some of Webb's assertions were true: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/10/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748.html On 10/10/2014 01:26 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Salyavin, you're reviewing the movie without having seen it just like Judy. You say: BTW, I remember the movie well, I was near a TV on the day. Saw the whole thing, but not live. I was working at the TM academy at the time and they didn't tell us it happened as there was a course on and didn't want to upset anybody! If we hadn't had someone staying for BB to mention it over the evening meal I might never have heard about it at all. Maybe.. So I might have missed the first defining moment of the 21st century!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/10/2014 06:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 10/10/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Believe if you want that some billionaire in a cave in Afghanistan ran the whole operation but that really sounds wacky! :-D Ran the whole operation? You mean got some guys to hijack a few planes? It's too simple isn't it. That's the problem people have, they can't believe that much destruction was caused by a few maniacs in hijacked planes. But it was not that simple. And the alleged fliers couldn't even fly a Cessna properly let alone a jet. Those planes were remote controlled and such systems were available in advance of 9-11.I disagree, I think they were telepathically controlled by the Space Brothers from their secret base on Pluto. Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. Are you inferring that I'm a weak mind, Barry? What's happened to you? Getting old and cranky and the contracts not showing up like they used too? I am saying that a *tendency* to believe in conspiracy theories is a mental disorder strongly linked to the mental disorder that attracts people to cults. IMO, conspiracy theories offer those who tend to gravitate to them the same thing that cults do -- 1) easy answers to complex questions, and 2) the feeling of being special, because you know the truth while lesser people don't. There have been many studies of conspiracy theories and why they've become so popular. Here are a few articles on the subject. I really like one line from this first one: The best predictor of belief in a conspiracy theory is belief in other conspiracy theories... That, for me, indicates a *strong* link between conspiracy nuts and cultists. Just think about Fairfield, and why *every* huckster selling New Age potions and seminars and techniques comes through town -- they do this because TMers, having been taught to believe *one* set of improbable things (dare I mention levitation and butt bounce for peace), are now primed to believe *more* improbable things. Fairfielders are well known in the U.S. as being the Biggest Suckers In The Country -- if you want to sell *anything* bizarre and New Agey, you take your snake oil routine to Fairfield. Well, I'm suggesting that the same is true of conspiracy nuts -- once you've bought into one of them, and felt all special because you know the truth and lesser people around you don't, you become an easy mark for the next conspiracy theory. And the next. And the next. And... Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories Psychologists are beginning to unravel the mystery behind this brand of American political paranoia. View on www.nytimes.com Preview by Yahoo This next article also agrees with my personal theories about conspiracy theories in another way: Conspiracy theories offer easy answers by casting the world as simpler and more predictable than it is. Neither conspiracy nuts nor cultists like mysteries, things they can't explain. So they tend to glom onto the first easy explanation to ease their cognitive dissonance. Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories Conspiracy theories offer easy answers by casting the world as simpler and more predictable than it is. Their popularity may pose a threat to societal well-being View on www.scientificameri... Preview by Yahoo And back to the particular conspiracy theory that started all this: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Why Do People Believe In September 11 Conspiracies? 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: Why Do People Believe In Septe... A deeper look into why people believe in 9/11 conspiracy theories. View on www.ibtimes.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Beetle Bailey - change theme
Speaking of war-related trauma, Beetle Bailey seems to have taken a rather abrupt turn. After 50 years of living in some kind of peacetime paradise, ... http://joshreads.com/images/11/04/i110419bb.jpg http://joshreads.com/images/11/04/i110419bb.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco
http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg --- mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. --- infor cwae infocwae@... wrote : I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some misunderstandings that may have occurred as a result of certain comments made here recently. 1. There is a post that suggest we 'stole' couches from a one of the high schools we worked in. This is incorrect. We purchase used couches from outside sources, specifically for the Quiet Time program. We own them. 2. That the windows and doors in the rooms we used at a high school were papered over so that no one could see in, and that the school had to remove the papering after we left. A single door to a small room was partially papered only during training sessions to reduce the distraction from other students walking by during passing period. This paper was taken down each day, and was not remaining after the meditation training staff left the school. 3. That we had been kicked out of at least 2 schools in SF since Jan of this year. One school decided to discontinue the Quiet Time program at the end of the spring semester due primarily to a vote from faculty regarding time constraints. There are many schools throughout CA and nationally requesting the program, so we only work with those that are able to fit it into their schedule. After providing this to 7,000 students, teachers, parents and administrators for the last 7 years, we have had over a 90% program satisfaction rating. An extremely small minority of parents, teachers and administrators have had issues with the program, usually because of biases or misunderstandings. 4. That most of the research referenced by the TM organization is either bogus or deeply flawed There are over 100 studies on TM published in reputable, peer reviewed scientific journals indicating various positive mental and physical health effects. Research has been done at Stanford, Harvard, University of California and other reputable institutions. The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has funded over 24M worth of research into TM and heart health. In order to be published in peer reviewed journals or to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco
Just gotta riff on the cartoon, which contains what's gotta be the most demeaning devotional job ever -- halo-carrier. You walk along behind your Master all day, holding a halo over his head and being farted on. Now *that* is bhakti. :-) From: blue_bungalo...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg
[FairfieldLife] 6 Daily Habits Of The World's Most Successful CEOs
6 Daily Habits Of The World's Most Successful CEOs If you want to get to the next level, try incorporating these strategies into your daily routine. View on www.businessinsider... Preview by Yahoo http://www.businessinsider.com/habits-of-successful-ceos-2014-10
[FairfieldLife] The inspiration for the internet?
The inspiration for the internet? http://cdn3.cubiclebot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SECRET-INSPIRATION-e1312410171598.jpg?363b75 http://cdn3.cubiclebot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SECRET-INSPIRATION-e1312410171598.jpg?363b75 http://cdn3.cubiclebot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SECRET-INSPIRATION-e1312410171598.jpg?363b75 http://cdn3.cubiclebot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/S... http://cdn3.cubiclebot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SECRET-INSPIRATION-e1312410171598.jpg?363b75 View on cdn3.cubiclebot.com http://cdn3.cubiclebot.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/SECRET-INSPIRATION-e1312410171598.jpg?363b75 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco
This would be funny, if you weren't pathetically trapped in waking state. Did Lenz fart a lot?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just gotta riff on the cartoon, which contains what's gotta be the most demeaning devotional job ever -- halo-carrier. You walk along behind your Master all day, holding a halo over his head and being farted on. Now *that* is bhakti. :-) From: blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg
[FairfieldLife] TM in the Press
1. TM Media Alert (USA): Brazilian Supermodel Gisele Bundchen practices TM -- tmhome.com -- October 10, 2014 http://tmhome.com/experiences/gisele-bundchen-practices-meditation-tm/ 2. TM Media Alert (USA): 7 Ways You Can Change the World [See point 6] -- Huffington Post -- Monica Bourgeau/October 10, 2014 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monica-bourgeau/7-ways-you-can-change-the_b_5962672.html?utm_hp_ref=impactir=Impact 3. TM Media Alert (USA): 6 Daily Habits of the World's Most Successful CEO's [See Point 3] -- Business Insider -- JT Ripton/October 10, 2014 http://www.businessinsider.com/habits-of-successful-ceos-2014-10
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM in the Press
Great news, as always, but the reason I am commenting, is that the TMO has finally joined the 21st century, graphically. Oddly, in the word cloud on their home page, there are the words, miserable session which lead to a 404 error, source not found. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dickmays@... wrote : 1. TM Media Alert (USA): Brazilian Supermodel Gisele Bundchen practices TM -- tmhome.com http://tmhome.com/ -- October 10, 2014 http://tmhome.com/experiences/gisele-bundchen-practices-meditation-tm/ http://tmhome.com/experiences/gisele-bundchen-practices-meditation-tm/ 2. TM Media Alert (USA): 7 Ways You Can Change the World [See point 6] -- Huffington Post -- Monica Bourgeau/October 10, 2014 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monica-bourgeau/7-ways-you-can-change-the_b_5962672.html?utm_hp_ref=impactir=Impact http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monica-bourgeau/7-ways-you-can-change-the_b_5962672.html?utm_hp_ref=impactir=Impact 3. TM Media Alert (USA): 6 Daily Habits of the World's Most Successful CEO's [See Point 3] -- Business Insider -- JT Ripton/October 10, 2014 http://www.businessinsider.com/habits-of-successful-ceos-2014-10 http://www.businessinsider.com/habits-of-successful-ceos-2014-10
[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 3
Thanks Ann - No worries, Fleet is here to stay, though my RVing days are over, so perhaps a new nickname IS in the works...only my hairdresser knows for sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Intro: Delta Dawn, Dr Dumbass, Fleetwood; whatever the handle, the infinite reality of consciousness remains the same. The outside might reflect one thing but the inside is unmoving and is untouched by whether the mortal coil wears stilettos or a stethoscope. This is a being who doesn’t let gender, age, hair color or chosen profession overshadow the profound nature of what lies beneath or within. This is a (wo)man for all seasons, someone undeterred by doubters; a being in trousers or skirt who is just as willing to peruse the lingerie aisle as the check out the drills and band saws in aisle 6. But with diversity amid the unchanging lies the sad fact that others will seek to undermine, to mock and yet, what does our hero(ine) do? We will see shortly… A day in the life: The coyotes have run amuck. Deer tracks trace their cloven way this way and that over the sand and coarse grasses indicating general confusion amid the fear. Mac is anxious to check the photos from the night before. Surely there will be some worthwhile images of startled eyes, graceful limbs and perhaps a coyote and deer together in one lucky image. But first, there is a song to finish recording, the sixth this week then a download and voila, a full shelf of recorded music to access when the mood takes him. Whether composing or listening to the fruits of his labors, it all works. Oh wait, there’s an impulse to check out the niggling feeling to log onto FFL. One must never ignore the finer impulses, they are often the important ones so Mac glides over to his work station which houses his paints, recording equipment and computer (dodging the laden mantel piece overflowing with trophies and ducking under the myriad gold stars hanging from an artistic installation from his ceiling) and types the magic letters that will allow him access to FFL. But first he is overcome with waves of anticipation, with pervasive awareness of all that has been, all that is and all that is yet to come. It all blends together in a kind of simultaneous timelessness infused with a richness that he is faintly aware he wished Barry could experience. Shaking his head gently, he proceeds to move his attention to the screen. And there it is - the shadows of characters barely formed. Like struggling newborns or underdeveloped fetuses the energy of those participating on FFL reach out their tentacles of ignorance toward his intelligence which takes it all in with wonder and with a certain empathy. But take it in he does and with the skill inherent in those with access to the finer impulses of life he molds and deflects - sometimes with humor and sometimes with a kind of divine wrath. All the while this is happening he is getting an idea for his next painting, his next garden layout, his next musical creation. Wandering away from the computer and the clamoring “noise that wants to follow him like a swarm of grumpy wasps Mac finds himself drawn to the sunset just settling over the rocks, the sage, the tall grasses. As he breathes it all in, through his nose, his eyes, his very skin he thinks of Leiden, of Victoria, of Fairfield, the deep south (including Texas), San Francisco and even England and he imagines who he might be next time in his next reincarnation at FFL and who it will piss off and who will welcome it and why it might be so.
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. From: infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some misunderstandings that may have occurred as a result of certain comments made here recently. 1. There is a post that suggest we 'stole' couches from a one of the high schools we worked in. This is incorrect. We purchase used couches from outside sources, specifically for the Quiet Time program. We own them. 2. That the windows and doors in the rooms we used at a high school were papered over so that no one could see in, and that the school had to remove the papering after we left. A single door to a small room was partially papered only during training sessions to reduce the distraction from other students walking by during passing period. This paper was taken down each day, and was not remaining after the meditation training staff left the school. 3. That we had been kicked out of at least 2 schools in SF since Jan of this year. One school decided to discontinue the Quiet Time program at the end of the spring semester due primarily to a vote from faculty regarding time constraints. There are many schools throughout CA and nationally requesting the program, so we only work with those that are able to fit it into their schedule. After providing this to 7,000 students, teachers, parents and administrators for the last 7 years, we have had over a 90% program satisfaction rating. An extremely small minority of parents, teachers and administrators have had issues with the program, usually because of biases or misunderstandings. 4. That most of the research referenced by the TM organization is either bogus or deeply flawed There are over 100 studies on TM published in reputable, peer reviewed scientific journals indicating various positive mental and physical health effects. Research has been done at Stanford, Harvard, University of California and other reputable institutions. The National Institutes of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 3
my_butte_looks_big AT yahoo.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com wrote : Thanks Ann - No worries, Fleet is here to stay, though my RVing days are over, so perhaps a new nickname IS in the works...only my hairdresser knows for sure.
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Michael, You can't be trusted to make any kind of objective statement regarding TM. If it were to your advantage to praise the NIH in some regard, you would do so. You have no in-depth knowledge of the studies you cite below. On the surface, they look frivolous, but you have no idea if some real benefit may have come from them. Again, your only interest in citing those studies, is a means to discredit TM. And your case is weak in this instance, and often quite skewed (to say the least) in the other instances you come up with on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. From: infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some misunderstandings that may have occurred as a result of certain comments made here recently. 1. There is a post that suggest we 'stole' couches from a one of the high schools we worked in. This is incorrect. We purchase used couches from outside sources, specifically for the Quiet Time program. We own them. 2. That the windows and doors in the rooms we used at a high school were papered over so that no one could see in, and that the school had to remove the papering after we left. A single door to a small room was partially papered only during training sessions to reduce the distraction from other students walking by during passing period. This paper was taken down each day, and was not remaining after the meditation training staff left the school. 3. That we had been kicked out of at least 2 schools in SF since Jan of this year. One school decided to discontinue the Quiet Time program at the end of the spring semester due primarily to a vote from faculty regarding time constraints. There are many schools throughout CA and nationally requesting the program, so we only work with those that are able to fit it into their schedule. After providing this to 7,000 students,
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
What a double standard fool you are - you are asking me or anyone else to make objective statements about the TM or the TMO??? When has the TMO ever done that? With them its all about telling over the top lies to make money and you who claim not to even meditate much anymore have to defend them? You got mental problems that just won't quit. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:36 AM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, You can't be trusted to make any kind of objective statement regarding TM. If it were to your advantage to praise the NIH in some regard, you would do so. You have no in-depth knowledge of the studies you cite below. On the surface, they look frivolous, but you have no idea if some real benefit may have come from them. Again, your only interest in citing those studies, is a means to discredit TM. And your case is weak in this instance, and often quite skewed (to say the least) in the other instances you come up with on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. From: infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some misunderstandings that may have occurred as a result of certain comments made here recently. 1. There is a post that suggest we 'stole' couches from a one of the high schools we worked in. This is incorrect. We purchase used couches from outside sources, specifically for the Quiet Time program. We own them. 2. That the windows and doors in the rooms we used at a high school were papered over so that no one could see in, and that the school had to remove the papering after we left. A single door to a small room was partially papered only during training sessions to reduce the distraction from other
[FairfieldLife] Re: Parody or Truth 3
Excellent! or beaut_butte AT yahoo. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : my_butte_looks_big AT yahoo.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Thanks Ann - No worries, Fleet is here to stay, though my RVing days are over, so perhaps a new nickname IS in the works...only my hairdresser knows for sure.
[FairfieldLife] The big sky
The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/10/2014 06:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 10/10/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Believe if you want that some billionaire in a cave in Afghanistan ran the whole operation but that really sounds wacky! :-D Ran the whole operation? You mean got some guys to hijack a few planes? It's too simple isn't it. That's the problem people have, they can't believe that much destruction was caused by a few maniacs in hijacked planes. But it was not that simple. And the alleged fliers couldn't even fly a Cessna properly let alone a jet. Those planes were remote controlled and such systems were available in advance of 9-11.I disagree, I think they were telepathically controlled by the Space Brothers from their secret base on Pluto. Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. Are you inferring that I'm a weak mind, Barry? What's happened to you? Getting old and cranky and the contracts not showing up like they used too? I think our bawee has taken profound ownership of his own conspiracy theory and he seems to be sticking to it - like glue. 'Weak mindedness' seems to be the catch-all reason for most things that human beings do, in bawee's mind anyway. Thank God this man didn't enter the field of psychiatry. Can you imagine? His one diagnosis for everything, You are weak minded, now get out of my office. Next. I am saying that a *tendency* to believe in conspiracy theories is a mental disorder strongly linked to the mental disorder that attracts people to cults. IMO, conspiracy theories offer those who tend to gravitate to them the same thing that cults do -- 1) easy answers to complex questions, and 2) the feeling of being special, because you know the truth while lesser people don't. There have been many studies of conspiracy theories and why they've become so popular. Here are a few articles on the subject. I really like one line from this first one: The best predictor of belief in a conspiracy theory is belief in other conspiracy theories... That, for me, indicates a *strong* link between conspiracy nuts and cultists. Just think about Fairfield, and why *every* huckster selling New Age potions and seminars and techniques comes through town -- they do this because TMers, having been taught to believe *one* set of improbable things (dare I mention levitation and butt bounce for peace), are now primed to believe *more* improbable things. Fairfielders are well known in the U.S. as being the Biggest Suckers In The Country -- if you want to sell *anything* bizarre and New Agey, you take your snake oil routine to Fairfield. Well, I'm suggesting that the same is true of conspiracy nuts -- once you've bought into one of them, and felt all special because you know the truth and lesser people around you don't, you become an easy mark for the next conspiracy theory. And the next. And the next. And... Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Psychologists are beginning to unravel the mystery behind this brand of American political paranoia. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Preview by Yahoo This next article also agrees with my personal theories about conspiracy theories in another way: Conspiracy theories offer easy answers by casting the world as simpler and more predictable than it is. Neither conspiracy nuts nor cultists like mysteries, things they can't explain. So they tend to glom onto the first easy explanation to ease their cognitive dissonance. Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/ http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/ Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/ Conspiracy theories offer easy answers by casting the world as simpler and more
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Oh, Holy Mother of Jesus. So, let me get this straight. The TMO is a lying organization from gitgo. (or so you say). We know the rest, right, Marshy, old goat, ladeda deda. The same diatribe you pour out several times a day. But, you are saying, that because you view the TMO as a disreputable organization, you now have the right to make inflammatory, inaccurate, partial truth statement about same organization. Believe me. I know that makes sense to you. But, ...what was it you were saying about mental problems? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What a double standard fool you are - you are asking me or anyone else to make objective statements about the TM or the TMO??? When has the TMO ever done that? With them its all about telling over the top lies to make money and you who claim not to even meditate much anymore have to defend them? You got mental problems that just won't quit. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:36 AM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, You can't be trusted to make any kind of objective statement regarding TM. If it were to your advantage to praise the NIH in some regard, you would do so. You have no in-depth knowledge of the studies you cite below. On the surface, they look frivolous, but you have no idea if some real benefit may have come from them. Again, your only interest in citing those studies, is a means to discredit TM. And your case is weak in this instance, and often quite skewed (to say the least) in the other instances you come up with on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. From: infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some
[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Rick Archer
May it be the happiest year of your life...so far!
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
It is hardly mental disorder that leads people to spiritual organizations - If so, Barry would be among our sickest members. His perspective is always one of failure, of settling for less, if it beats a sharp stick in the eye, it'll do. Barry, after having had some flashy stuff in his life, cannot rekindle that flame again (except with his self-created deadly enemy, TM), and so he goes on tiredly, poking a sad sort of fun, at any need for anyone to believe in, or seek, something greater than themselves, whatever its attributes. He is desperately trying to settle for less, and have us all do the same. He walks forward, ever deeper, into his compressed past, as I walk backwards, into the future. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/10/2014 06:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 10/10/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Believe if you want that some billionaire in a cave in Afghanistan ran the whole operation but that really sounds wacky! :-D Ran the whole operation? You mean got some guys to hijack a few planes? It's too simple isn't it. That's the problem people have, they can't believe that much destruction was caused by a few maniacs in hijacked planes. But it was not that simple. And the alleged fliers couldn't even fly a Cessna properly let alone a jet. Those planes were remote controlled and such systems were available in advance of 9-11.I disagree, I think they were telepathically controlled by the Space Brothers from their secret base on Pluto. Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. Are you inferring that I'm a weak mind, Barry? What's happened to you? Getting old and cranky and the contracts not showing up like they used too? I think our bawee has taken profound ownership of his own conspiracy theory and he seems to be sticking to it - like glue. 'Weak mindedness' seems to be the catch-all reason for most things that human beings do, in bawee's mind anyway. Thank God this man didn't enter the field of psychiatry. Can you imagine? His one diagnosis for everything, You are weak minded, now get out of my office. Next. I am saying that a *tendency* to believe in conspiracy theories is a mental disorder strongly linked to the mental disorder that attracts people to cults. IMO, conspiracy theories offer those who tend to gravitate to them the same thing that cults do -- 1) easy answers to complex questions, and 2) the feeling of being special, because you know the truth while lesser people don't. There have been many studies of conspiracy theories and why they've become so popular. Here are a few articles on the subject. I really like one line from this first one: The best predictor of belief in a conspiracy theory is belief in other conspiracy theories... That, for me, indicates a *strong* link between conspiracy nuts and cultists. Just think about Fairfield, and why *every* huckster selling New Age potions and seminars and techniques comes through town -- they do this because TMers, having been taught to believe *one* set of improbable things (dare I mention levitation and butt bounce for peace), are now primed to believe *more* improbable things. Fairfielders are well known in the U.S. as being the Biggest Suckers In The Country -- if you want to sell *anything* bizarre and New Agey, you take your snake oil routine to Fairfield. Well, I'm suggesting that the same is true of conspiracy nuts -- once you've bought into one of them, and felt all special because you know the truth and lesser people around you don't, you become an easy mark for the next conspiracy theory. And the next. And the next. And... Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Psychologists are beginning to unravel the mystery behind this brand of American political paranoia. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Preview by Yahoo This next article also agrees with my
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Rick Archer
Happy Birthday, Rick! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk0V_GGa2XM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk0V_GGa2XM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : May it be the happiest year of your life...so far!
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
[FairfieldLife] The Fall Of Baghdad
/Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 8:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. /It sounds like Barry did a 180 and changed his mind about conspiracy theories. Go figure./ Subject: OT: Israel From: John Manning Group: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: 8/8/2003 http://tinyurl.com/qf5x6t9
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 9:28 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: If 9-11 were an inside job then there would be plenty of funding to poison the well with sites like Rational Wiki. I don't have time to look at all of it now and I'm sure someone else has gone through a debunked most of the holes here. I see a couple already. If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html /O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
Ann, thanks for great photo. BTW, I can't help but notice how much it looks like the symbol for Gemini, which both me and Fleet are! On Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:21 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
[FairfieldLife] Truthers, was David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/10/2014 9:23 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. Are you inferring that I'm a weak mind, Barry? What's happened to you? Getting old and cranky and the contracts not showing up like they used too? /Maybe Barry1 changed his mind about conspiracy theories and now he no longer believes the Jews were behind the WTC attack, from the inside. Go figure.// // //Some conspiracy questions. //Thanks in advance. // // //Are you actually thinking that no planes were flown into the WTC? Most people that saw the attack on TV were convinced that two planes flew *into* the buildings, not *out* of them. Do you have any video tapes of jetliners flying from inside the WTC, *out* into the NYC sky in plain daylight?// //If so, how would they get a large jetliner inside the WTC through the door and up the service elevator and past the security cameras?// // //Wouldn't they need a runway for the jet to take off from, even if it was a very short one?// // //And how would the ticket sellers and pilots talk passengers into boarding a plane that was lodged between the hallway of the WTC and the women's bathroom?// // //Also, what would be the purpose of flying a jet airliner *out* of the WTC, when it would be a whole lot easier to fly one *into* the WTC - from a runway and airport in Boston?/
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
You have not addressed how my statement is inaccurate (You can't, because it isn't) nor have you addressed why you need to continue to defend an organization that has a long track record of lies and deception and its founder and the technique itself when you no longer do the technique, nor its advanced programs and don't teach it anymore. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:14 AM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Oh, Holy Mother of Jesus. So, let me get this straight. The TMO is a lying organization from gitgo. (or so you say). We know the rest, right, Marshy, old goat, ladeda deda. The same diatribe you pour out several times a day. But, you are saying, that because you view the TMO as a disreputable organization, you now have the right to make inflammatory, inaccurate, partial truth statement about same organization. Believe me. I know that makes sense to you. But, ...what was it you were saying about mental problems? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What a double standard fool you are - you are asking me or anyone else to make objective statements about the TM or the TMO??? When has the TMO ever done that? With them its all about telling over the top lies to make money and you who claim not to even meditate much anymore have to defend them? You got mental problems that just won't quit. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:36 AM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, You can't be trusted to make any kind of objective statement regarding TM. If it were to your advantage to praise the NIH in some regard, you would do so. You have no in-depth knowledge of the studies you cite below. On the surface, they look frivolous, but you have no idea if some real benefit may have come from them. Again, your only interest in citing those studies, is a means to discredit TM. And your case is weak in this instance, and often quite skewed (to say the least) in the other instances you come up with on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/11/2014 02:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com On 10/10/2014 06:59 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : On 10/10/2014 01:04 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Believe if you want that some billionaire in a cave in Afghanistan ran the whole operation but that really sounds wacky! :-D Ran the whole operation? You mean got some guys to hijack a few planes? It's too simple isn't it. That's the problem people have, they can't believe that much destruction was caused by a few maniacs in hijacked planes. But it was not that simple. And the alleged fliers couldn't even fly a Cessna properly let alone a jet. Those planes were remote controlled and such systems were available in advance of 9-11. I disagree, I think they were telepathically controlled by the Space Brothers from their secret base on Pluto. Weak minds glom onto conspiracy theories the same way that weak minds follow cult leaders. That's all anyone ever needs to know about discussions like this. Are you inferring that I'm a weak mind, Barry? What's happened to you? Getting old and cranky and the contracts not showing up like they used too? I am saying that a *tendency* to believe in conspiracy theories is a mental disorder strongly linked to the mental disorder that attracts people to cults. IMO, conspiracy theories offer those who tend to gravitate to them the same thing that cults do -- 1) easy answers to complex questions, The easy answer would be the Official 9-11 Story or: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98 Those whose investigate 9-11 further have more complex answers so you have it a little backward. and 2) the feeling of being special, because you know the truth while lesser people don't. No, we're just pointing out some interesting clues to a massive crime scene. It is an educational effort. There have been many studies of conspiracy theories and why they've become so popular. Here are a few articles on the subject. I really like one line from this first one: The best predictor of belief in a /conspiracy theory/ is belief in other conspiracy theories... That, for me, indicates a *strong* link between conspiracy nuts and cultists. Just think about Fairfield, and why *every* huckster selling New Age potions and seminars and techniques comes through town -- they do this because TMers, having been taught to believe *one* set of improbable things (dare I mention levitation and butt bounce for peace), are now primed to believe *more* improbable things. Fairfielders are well known in the U.S. as being the Biggest Suckers In The Country -- if you want to sell *anything* bizarre and New Agey, you take your snake oil routine to Fairfield. Well, I'm suggesting that the same is true of conspiracy nuts -- once you've bought into one of them, and felt all special because you know the truth and lesser people around you don't, you become an easy mark for the next conspiracy theory. And the next. And the next. And... Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all image http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Why Rational People Buy Into Conspiracy Theories http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Psychologists are beginning to unravel the mystery behind this brand of American political paranoia. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/magazine/why-rational-people-buy-into-conspiracy-theories.html?pagewanted=all Preview by Yahoo This next article also agrees with my personal theories about conspiracy theories in another way: Conspiracy theories offer easy answers by casting the world as simpler and more predictable than it is. Neither conspiracy nuts nor cultists like mysteries, things they can't explain. So they tend to glom onto the first easy explanation to ease their cognitive dissonance. Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/ image http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/ Why People Believe in Conspiracy Theories http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories/ Conspiracy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco
On 10/11/2014 6:52 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: This would be funny, if you weren't pathetically trapped in waking state. Did Lenz fart a lot?? /It's just another example of Barry's prejudice against Hindus. Everyone knows that carrying an umbrella over the head of SBS was the most devotional job ever; or carrying a skin for MMY to sit on. In Barry's case, to guard MMY's door in a hotel for a few hours; or tack up a few posters for Lenz. Apparently the Lenz farts were so strong that the whole lecture hall turned a golden brown color, to the point where even the security guards noticed it. Go figure./ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Just gotta riff on the cartoon, which contains what's gotta be the most demeaning devotional job ever -- halo-carrier. You walk along behind your Master all day, holding a halo over his head and being farted on. Now *that* is bhakti. :-) *From:* blue_bungalow_2@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:08 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Doug Henning
I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices. During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
[FairfieldLife] The Fall of Istanbul Cripples Europe [1 Attachment]
/As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey's border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world./ 'The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World' http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html /ISIS and al Qaeda at the gates of Europe/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adi Shankara
Really, Wikipedia is your reference? Did you look at the names? Did you learn the TM puja? Did you even recognize the misspelling of the name, Shukadeva? You should be embarrassed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : All the Shankaracharya Saraswati dandi sannyasins up to and including SBS meditate on the Saraswati bija mantra at least twice each day. They say this is the fastest method to Liberation in the Kali Yuga - a seeded meditation using bija mantra. This is stated very clearly in the Tantra Soundaryalahari by the Adi Shankaracharya himself. On 10/10/2014 4:15 PM, netineti108 wrote: Have you ever spent time with them and asked of what their sadhana consists? All the Shankaracharya Advaita sannyasin worship Shakti, this is a fact. According to Shankara's Soundaryalahari, all sannyasins meditate twice a day on the bija manntra of Sri Vidya. Maybe it's time to review the Shankaracharya parampara: Narayana Padma Bhava Vasishtha Shakti Parashara Badarayana Shudadeva Gaudapapda Govinda Shankara Trotaka Brahmanand* Shantanand Vishnudevanand Vasudevanand *The swami is said to have been one of those rare siddhas (accomplished ones) who had the knowledge of Sri Vidya Works Cited: Rama, Swami (1999) Himalayan Institute, Living With the Himalayan Masters, page 247 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmananda_Saraswati
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
The term “conspiracy theory”, though I use it myself, is a two-edged sword that may have outlived its usefulness. Those challenging mainstream knowledge and conventions are routinely cast as conspiracy nuts – and implying that such nut jobs glob onto many such “oddball” explanations of the universe as a crutch to cope with reality, It has acquired a derogatory meaning and can become a perverse tool applied to dismiss or ridicule unconventional beliefs, a tool of suppressing sincere inquiry and challenging of prevailing norms and wisdom, defying gut instincts (aka cognitive biases) and seeking truth no matter where it takes you and at what costa. Many breakthroughs and new understanding of how the world works, including counter-culture ideas, and challenges to the establishment, have been initially derided as crack-pot ideas, conspiracy theories, promoted by nut jobs. Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism. A vast list of crack-pot ideas, inflammatory, and/or conspiracy-driven dibble has unfolded and become in our lifetimes mainstream wisdom – a few, both large and small (may) include (not in any order of impact or importance: the Snowden leaks, Pentagon Papers, Lewinsky’s blue dress, lack of weapons of mass destruction, Judith Bourque’s book, Iran-Contra, the Madoff scandal, genocides and mass murder of German concentration camps, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, Sudan, Native Americans, “California real-estate prices never go down”, the USDA’s food triangle, equal pay for equal work, segregation, JFK’s affairs, Watergate, MY Lai, black site prisons, priest pedophilia, the tech bubble (“you just don’t GET it”), the housing bubble, Goldman Sachs, the extent of regulatory capture, animals having emotions, Sandusky, celebrities coming out of the closet, the Higgs Boson, Masters and Johnson, a black president, LBJ’s decline seek re-election, the value of “health foods”, vegetarianism, yoga and meditation, game-changing technology, global climate change, etc. More so over the march of time – much of mainstream science came from those initially labeled heretics, crackpots, etc. Though many weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things have turned out to be true, that hardly means that all weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things are true. Some core distinctions are willingness to systematically, without bias or agenda, challenge one’s own and society’s views, models of how the world works, prevailing understandings and conventional wisdom. These are high virtues, not something that is worthy of derision and labels such as conspiracy theories.. However, it is hardly a virtue to be driven by conformational bias in assembling facts to form an apparent, though illusory random pattern in order to fulfill some inner need to cast blows against the empire, exude elitism, deride others, irrationally attempt to bring order and make sense of a seemly, at times, irrational challenging life and universe. A key distinction is whether one first shoots the arrow or paints the target, is open to considering all evidence, a willingness to change views as new evidence presents itself, always seeking to find alternative answers to explain and overturn one’s current pet POV, having a healthy sense of both skepticism and optimism, and having an identity independent of a particular “truth”.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Some conspiracy theories are more fun and more chilling than others - read this obit of Billie Sol Estes and see what you think: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/billie-sol-estes Billie Sol Estes obituary Spectacularly successful Texas fraudster who figured in conspiracy theories about the death of John F Kennedy View on www.theguardian.com Preview by Yahoo From: seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11 The term “conspiracy theory”, though I use it myself, is a two-edged sword that may have outlived its usefulness. Those challenging mainstream knowledge and conventions are routinely cast as conspiracy nuts – and implying that such nut jobs glob onto many such “oddball” explanations of the universe as a crutch to cope with reality, It has acquired a derogatory meaning and can become a perverse tool applied to dismiss or ridicule unconventional beliefs, a tool of suppressing sincere inquiry and challenging of prevailing norms and wisdom, defying gut instincts (aka cognitive biases) and seeking truth no matter where it takes you and at what costa. Many breakthroughs and new understanding of how the world works, including counter-culture ideas, and challenges to the establishment, have been initially derided as crack-pot ideas, conspiracy theories, promoted by nut jobs. Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism. A vast list of crack-pot ideas, inflammatory, and/or conspiracy-driven dibble has unfolded and become in our lifetimes mainstream wisdom – a few, both large and small (may) include (not in any order of impact or importance: the Snowden leaks, Pentagon Papers, Lewinsky’s blue dress, lack of weapons of mass destruction, Judith Bourque’s book, Iran-Contra, the Madoff scandal, genocides and mass murder of German concentration camps, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, Sudan, Native Americans, “California real-estate prices never go down”, the USDA’s food triangle, equal pay for equal work, segregation, JFK’s affairs, Watergate, MY Lai, black site prisons, priest pedophilia, the tech bubble (“you just don’t GET it”), the housing bubble, Goldman Sachs, the extent of regulatory capture, animals having emotions, Sandusky, celebrities coming out of the closet, the Higgs Boson, Masters and Johnson, a black president, LBJ’s decline seek re-election, the value of “health foods”, vegetarianism, yoga and meditation, game-changing technology, global climate change, etc. More so over the march of time – much of mainstream science came from those initially labeled heretics, crackpots, etc. Though many weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things have turned out to be true, that hardly means that all weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things are true. Some core distinctions are willingness to systematically, without bias or agenda, challenge one’s own and society’s views, models of how the world works, prevailing understandings and conventional wisdom. These are high virtues, not something that is worthy of derision and labels such as conspiracy theories.. However, it is hardly a virtue to be driven by conformational bias in assembling facts to form an apparent, though illusory random pattern in order to fulfill some inner need to cast blows against the empire, exude elitism, deride others, irrationally attempt to bring order and make sense of a seemly, at times, irrational challenging life and universe. A key distinction is whether one first shoots the arrow or paints the target, is open to considering all evidence, a willingness to change views as new evidence presents itself, always seeking to find alternative answers to explain and overturn one’s current pet POV, having a healthy sense of both skepticism and optimism, and having an identity independent of a particular “truth”.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
Wow! Talk about being at the right place, at the right time. I get mystery and life from water, and satisfaction and wonder from earth, and blessed dreams and inspiration, from the air, wind, clouds, sun, and stars. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Henning
Now that Ann has posted her parody of you, MJ, it's going to be increasingly hard to tell the parody from the real thing. Read the article again. Doug Henning found true love at MIU, and that can't be bad. OK, so he couldn't act or sing, but are you aware of any TM literature that says that if you learn TM, you will become a good actor and singer? Your method is both simple and dumb: find the name of a celebrity who does/did TM, find ways to denigrate him professionally and personally, and then claim you have proved that TM doesn't work. Haven't you anything better to do? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_%28musical%29#cite_note-1 During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
[FairfieldLife] D Lynch
I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine, he says. I always associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and facilitates thinking. I just really love those things. - David Lynch
Re: [FairfieldLife] The big sky
yep, quick-minded, can appear superficial, or flighty, easy to get along with, too many interests, not enough time. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, thanks for great photo. BTW, I can't help but notice how much it looks like the symbol for Gemini, which both me and Fleet are! On Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:21 AM, awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : So Fresh, isn't it? Akasha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Me too, Fleet, I love seeing the sun and moon in the sky at the same time. The women's Dome is up on a bit of a ridge and sometimes that's possible. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:05 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: The most obvious feature here, is the big sky. Not only the blazing Milky Way, overhead at night, but also being able to see a vast sky stretching over the valley, from mountain range, to mountain range, during the day - So... much...space!...Akasha. I particularly enjoy seeing the rising sun and the moon, together in the same sky. Back on earth, I bought an R/C flying sphere - white round plastic frame, with props for vertical and horizontal travel - For those of you who have used the R/C helos, this one is far more resistant to crash landings - haven't lost a blade yet. Twenty bucks, at Costco.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Henning
Didn't read Ann's parody of me but I am glad that someone who walked away from your much vaunted school to follow a charismatic crazy cult leader pleases you with her writing. And you like Steve the Willy Tex Clone, Willy Tex himself and Danny Boy all have reading comprehension problems. You are looking to find fault with whatever I say if it doesn't praise Marshy the Liar and Fraud, his slavish lieutenants and their university that has existed to turn the minds of intelligent young students into mush through force feeding them Hindu based superstitions. I said very clearly that I liked Henning both personally and professionally and I do. But if you read the article, it shows that he was unhappy in much of his life where he was ALREADY doing TM and TMSP - and that his big musical that the Movement made such a fuss about was a flop. Like I said, its not about Henning, but the fraud and fake that is TM. Also, to reiterate since you don't seem to read or understand well, I said nothing whatsoever to denigrate Henning either personally or professionally. If you would stop doing TMSP and get professional help, you MIGHT in a few years be able to reverse the damage and intelligence atrophy you have suffered from so many years of TMSP - and by the way, if any of your TM buddies in Fairfield see the damage and begin to lead you to their basement to help you pacify your vata, don't go - run as fast as you can. You inspire me to definitely finish my piece entitled A Day in the Life. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Henning Now that Ann has posted her parody of you, MJ, it's going to be increasingly hard to tell the parody from the real thing. Read the article again. Doug Henning found true love at MIU, and that can't be bad. OK, so he couldn't act or sing, but are you aware of any TM literature that says that if you learn TM, you will become a good actor and singer? Your method is both simple and dumb: find the name of a celebrity who does/did TM, find ways to denigrate him professionally and personally, and then claim you have proved that TM doesn't work. Haven't you anything better to do? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices. During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: (399652) The Happiest school in San Francisco
Of course, MMY never advocated renouncing wealth. In fact, he carefully marketed TM as a technique for householders -people for whom wealth was important because they were interested in physical comfort, raising kids in a comfortable and safe environment, etc. According to theory, the excesses of amassing wealth for its own sake would tend to fade with TM practice, being a symptom of a stressed out nervous system (even the amassing of wealth for its own sake is arguably a stressful thing, making wealth-obession a stress-related illness that TM should help fix directly). L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blue_bungalow_2@... wrote : http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg http://assets.fundoofun.com/wallpapers/Cartoons/800x600/guru_small.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Image if your local police department reported a murder as someone shot the person. Case closed That's almost what the 9-11 official story is like. You would have been well advised not to use RationalWiki which skeptics don't even like. Those of us who think there is something more to a case than reported don't call ourselves conspiracy theorists. That term has come about and used by PSYOPS to discredit us since the JFK assassination which I don't think Oswald had anything to do with because he had a cheap gun and was seen in the lunch room at the book depository when the assassination took place. He was a convenience patsy due to his activities. If Ruby had not shot him it might have come out that he got framed. Anyone on the right track to solving these crimes who has any visibility such as a news reporter often gets offed or suicided. Some of the nutty stuff you will find in conspiracy theorist are PSYOPS trying to poison the well lest the truth be known. Just think if we could prove beyond a doubt that 9-11 was indeed an inside job and who the perps were how confidence in our government would fall, not that it isn't anyway. And we have long had little confidence in our corporations and banks which these days run like gang operations. The USA is a very dirty place. It was that way from it's inception because some of the wealthy landowners didn't want their workers to have rights and some wanted the US to still be beholding to Britain. Our democracy is an illusion and the king makers hate anyone who points that out. A lot more people would have probably taken to the streets during the Occupy Movement but they feared losing their jobs. We live in a country of increasing have nots, people who have lost even their simple pleasures of life because a plan to put all but a few in austerity. So many detractors here seem to have little knowledge of history and just react emotionally. I guess some folks want to live in a simple world of Santy Claus and Easter Bunnies. On 10/11/2014 10:46 AM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The term “conspiracy theory”, though I use it myself, is a two-edged sword that may have outlived its usefulness. Those challenging mainstream knowledge and conventions are routinely cast as conspiracy nuts – and implying that such nut jobs glob onto many such “oddball” explanations of the universe as a crutch to cope with reality, It has acquired a derogatory meaning and can become a perverse tool applied to dismiss or ridicule unconventional beliefs, a tool of suppressing sincere inquiry and challenging of prevailing norms and wisdom, defying gut instincts (aka cognitive biases) and seeking truth no matter where it takes you and at what costa. Many breakthroughs and new understanding of how the world works, including counter-culture ideas, and challenges to the establishment, have been initially derided as crack-pot ideas, conspiracy theories, promoted by nut jobs. Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism. A vast list of crack-pot ideas, inflammatory, and/or conspiracy-driven dibble has unfolded and become in our lifetimes mainstream wisdom – a few, both large and small (may) include (not in any order of impact or importance: the Snowden leaks, Pentagon Papers, Lewinsky’s blue dress, lack of weapons of mass destruction, Judith Bourque’s book, Iran-Contra, the Madoff scandal, genocides and mass murder of German concentration camps, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, Sudan, Native Americans, “California real-estate prices never go down”, the USDA’s food triangle, equal pay for equal work, segregation, JFK’s affairs, Watergate, MY Lai, black site prisons, priest pedophilia, the tech bubble (“you just don’t GET it”), the housing bubble, Goldman Sachs, the extent of regulatory capture, animals having emotions, Sandusky, celebrities coming out of the closet, the Higgs Boson, Masters and Johnson, a black president, LBJ’s decline seek re-election, the value of “health foods”, vegetarianism, yoga and meditation, game-changing technology, global climate change, etc. More so over the march of time – much of mainstream science came from those initially labeled heretics, crackpots, etc. Though many weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things have turned out to be true, that hardly means that all weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things are true. Some core distinctions are willingness to systematically, without bias or agenda, challenge one’s own and society’s views, models of how the world works, prevailing understandings and conventional wisdom. These are high virtues, not something that is worthy of derision and labels such as conspiracy theories.. However, it is hardly a virtue to be driven by conformational bias in assembling facts to form an apparent, though illusory random pattern in order to fulfill some inner need to cast blows against the empire,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Very well said. This sentence, Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism., stood out for me. In the face of a modern age, with an endless cascade of information, to assimilate, or challenge, it becomes an easy out, to draw broad conclusions, either casting too critical an eye at unconventional life, or, becoming naively accepting of it. I try to keep an open mind, especially for events where I was not present, and must rely on a media source for information. Fwiw, in terms of public events, the one that still has me thinking, is the JFK killing - Mostly because Oswald was then killed, in a highly secure environment (the basement of Dallas Police HQ), by Jack Ruby, who then died on the eve of his second trial, four years later, at 55. Perhaps it was exactly how the govt. said it was, but too many questions, for my liking. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... wrote : The term “conspiracy theory”, though I use it myself, is a two-edged sword that may have outlived its usefulness. Those challenging mainstream knowledge and conventions are routinely cast as conspiracy nuts – and implying that such nut jobs glob onto many such “oddball” explanations of the universe as a crutch to cope with reality, It has acquired a derogatory meaning and can become a perverse tool applied to dismiss or ridicule unconventional beliefs, a tool of suppressing sincere inquiry and challenging of prevailing norms and wisdom, defying gut instincts (aka cognitive biases) and seeking truth no matter where it takes you and at what costa. Many breakthroughs and new understanding of how the world works, including counter-culture ideas, and challenges to the establishment, have been initially derided as crack-pot ideas, conspiracy theories, promoted by nut jobs. Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism. A vast list of crack-pot ideas, inflammatory, and/or conspiracy-driven dibble has unfolded and become in our lifetimes mainstream wisdom – a few, both large and small (may) include (not in any order of impact or importance: the Snowden leaks, Pentagon Papers, Lewinsky’s blue dress, lack of weapons of mass destruction, Judith Bourque’s book, Iran-Contra, the Madoff scandal, genocides and mass murder of German concentration camps, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, Sudan, Native Americans, “California real-estate prices never go down”, the USDA’s food triangle, equal pay for equal work, segregation, JFK’s affairs, Watergate, MY Lai, black site prisons, priest pedophilia, the tech bubble (“you just don’t GET it”), the housing bubble, Goldman Sachs, the extent of regulatory capture, animals having emotions, Sandusky, celebrities coming out of the closet, the Higgs Boson, Masters and Johnson, a black president, LBJ’s decline seek re-election, the value of “health foods”, vegetarianism, yoga and meditation, game-changing technology, global climate change, etc. More so over the march of time – much of mainstream science came from those initially labeled heretics, crackpots, etc. Though many weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things have turned out to be true, that hardly means that all weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things are true. Some core distinctions are willingness to systematically, without bias or agenda, challenge one’s own and society’s views, models of how the world works, prevailing understandings and conventional wisdom. These are high virtues, not something that is worthy of derision and labels such as conspiracy theories.. However, it is hardly a virtue to be driven by conformational bias in assembling facts to form an apparent, though illusory random pattern in order to fulfill some inner need to cast blows against the empire, exude elitism, deride others, irrationally attempt to bring order and make sense of a seemly, at times, irrational challenging life and universe. A key distinction is whether one first shoots the arrow or paints the target, is open to considering all evidence, a willingness to change views as new evidence presents itself, always seeking to find alternative answers to explain and overturn one’s current pet POV, having a healthy sense of both skepticism and optimism, and having an identity independent of a particular “truth”.
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. *From:* infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM *Subject:* 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some misunderstandings that may have occurred as a result of certain comments made here recently. 1. There is a post that suggest we 'stole' couches from a one of the high schools we worked in. This is incorrect. We purchase used couches from outside sources, specifically for the Quiet Time program. We own them. 2. That the windows and doors in the rooms we used at a high school were papered over so that no one could see in, and that the school had to remove the papering after we left. A single door to a small room was partially papered only during training sessions to reduce the distraction from other students walking by during passing period. This paper was taken down each day, and was not remaining after the meditation training staff left the school. 3. That we had been kicked out of at least 2 schools in SF since Jan of this year. One school decided to discontinue the Quiet Time program at the end of the spring semester due primarily to a vote from faculty regarding time constraints. There are
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Actually, the NIH is pretty cash-strapped these days and the competition is very fierce for research grants, especially in a non-mainstream field like TM. And $24 million to study TM isn't the same as $200,000, or $800,000. TM researchers are very aware of this, and while privately funded TM pilot studies still get published (the pilot studies on PTSD in Uganda were paid for by teh DLF, for example), when TM researchers go after public funding, they are REALLY careful in how they design the studies. Only the best designs with the most plausible rationale are going to get the money, and since the data from NIH-funded studies, by law, must be made easily available to the public, even if the study never gets published, there's very strong incentive to ONLY use NIH grants for studies where TM researchers are pretty darned positive that TM will shine. Here's an example of a proposed design for a new TM study: Design and rationale of a comparative ef... [Contemp Clin Trials. 2014] - PubMed - NCBI http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25066921 Design and rationale of a comparative ef... [Contemp Clin Trials. 2014] - PubMed - NCBI http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25066921 PubMed comprises more than 23 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full-text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites. View on www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25066921 Preview by Yahoo It will be pretty cool if that study gets funded by the NIH. Of course, I expect TM to do well in treating PTSD, so I am most interested in seeing the results of the genetic analysis component of the study. That is the new darling for TM research, as it could be done for any kind of study--psychological, neurological, cardio, pure consciousness, enlightenment--anything. It is a very 21st Century thing to suspect that there are genetic and epigentic factors that influence how people respond to therapies, including TM. For example, is there a genetic or measurable epigenetic component for why some people show breath suspension during pure consciousness while others don't? Likewise with experience of bliss during TM? [I've never had bliss the way David Lynch describes, even as the aftermath of what I believe are pure consciousness episodes, and yet he says that every meditation period is extremely blissful] What about Yogic Flying and other TM-SIdhis practice? Is hopping during Yogic Flying predictable on a genetic/epigenetic level? Does YF influence things epigenetically in a measurable way? [any experience or activity almost certainly creates an epigenetic change, so measurable needs to be inserted here] Could epigenetic testing help guide recommendations to make TM and Yogic Flying more effective? Could it be used to augment/replace Ayurvedic consultations? Those are questions that could occupy researchers for another 100 years, even if TM research suddenly became even more popular than mindfulness studies. L [By the way, genital washing in South Africa might be a REALLY important issue. STDs are rampant throughout Africa due to various social and hygiene issues. Would you object to an $800,000 study on ways to improve health education to help fight the spread of Ebola, even if said study was simply about finding more effective ways of convincing people to wash their hands?] ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad [1 Attachment]
/According to what I've read, in the next few days President Obama will order thousands of U.S. Marines back into Baghdad, Iraq, in order to save the U.S. embassy. To provide security for the U.S. interests and the U.S. embassy; to fight the ISIS insurgents and drive them back out of the city. Failure is not an option. How is that smart diplomacy working? /Islamic State jihadists move within eight miles of the Iraqi capital, sparking calls for America to return to the country 'Iraq asks for US ground troops as Isil threaten Baghdad' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156264/Iraq-asks-for-US-ground-troops-as-Isil-threaten-Baghdad.html /ISIS insurgent rides into downtown Baghdad/ http://rt.com/news/167636-iraq-cities-captured-isis/ /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Image if your local police department reported a murder as someone shot the person. Case closed That's almost what the 9-11 official story is like. You would have been well advised not to use RationalWiki which skeptics don't even like. Those of us who think there is something more to a case than reported don't call ourselves conspiracy theorists. That term has come about and used by PSYOPS to discredit us since the JFK assassination which I don't think Oswald had anything to do with because he had a cheap gun and was seen in the lunch room at the book depository when the assassination took place. He was a convenience patsy due to his activities. If Ruby had not shot him it might have come out that he got framed. Jeez, everyone knows Elvis shot JFK. It's hardly news. Anyone on the right track to solving these crimes who has any visibility such as a news reporter often gets offed or suicided. Some of the nutty stuff you will find in conspiracy theorist are PSYOPS trying to poison the well lest the truth be known. Just think if we could prove beyond a doubt that 9-11 was indeed an inside job and who the perps were how confidence in our government would fall, not that it isn't anyway. And we have long had little confidence in our corporations and banks which these days run like gang operations. After reading the articles Barry posted I was going to write something about how conspiracy theories are probably created by the government to distract everyone from what a crap job they actually do at running the country. Be nice to think there was someone in power who could organise a job that big, we can't even make a computer system to link up health districts without the ministry going bankrupt and abandoning it. The USA is a very dirty place. It was that way from it's inception because some of the wealthy landowners didn't want their workers to have rights and some wanted the US to still be beholding to Britain. Our democracy is an illusion and the king makers hate anyone who points that out. A lot more people would have probably taken to the streets during the Occupy Movement but they feared losing their jobs. We live in a country of increasing have nots, people who have lost even their simple pleasures of life because a plan to put all but a few in austerity. So many detractors here seem to have little knowledge of history and just react emotionally. I guess some folks want to live in a simple world of Santy Claus and Easter Bunnies. Both of which are inventions, just like the conspiracies. What worries is me that you have such a disconnect from the people that run the US that you actually think they would murder thousands of their own people for reasons best known to themselves. There's a kind of movement like that in the UK about the Islamic terrorist that blew up some tube trains a decade ago. The story goes that the government knew about it but let it happen because it would be an excuse to rachet up the anti-terror laws, which completely coincidentally can also be used to harass innocent people whenever the state feels like it. I don't believe it for the simple fact that however cynical politicians get it's their own friends and family that might get blown up. You don't seem to have that sort of human link, sure the govt in the US has blood on its hands but the 9/11 conspiracies are qualitatively different from interfering in the politics of left wing countries or suppressing anti-capitalist demonstrations. It isn't a quantitative thing at all. I think it's the conspiracists that react emotionally, something unbelievable happens and the dots get joined up irrationally, anything to make it make sense that doesn't just mean the world is so dangerous a bunch of religious fruitcakes can walk onto planes in America and fly them into public buildings. I'd hate to live in a country where I thought the government would actually blow me up as an excuse for starting a war in a third world country, some of the residents of which had already made some bold attacks on the US - unless they were conspiracies too. Because of the crap you can find on youtube, I know people who actually think ISIS and Al Queda don't exist at all and were created so the west can clamp down on personal freedom. We realists know they just used the 9/11 and 7/7 bombings as an excuse for that. On 10/11/2014 10:46 AM, seerdope@... mailto:seerdope@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The term “conspiracy theory”, though I use it myself, is a two-edged sword that may have outlived its usefulness. Those challenging mainstream knowledge and conventions are routinely cast as conspiracy nuts – and implying that such nut jobs glob onto many such “oddball” explanations of the universe as a crutch to cope with reality, It has acquired a derogatory meaning and can become a perverse
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Katy Perry's Tour Staff Learns TM
+ Successful CEOs Include Meditation/TM as Daily Habit VIEW EMAIL WITH IMAGES OCTOBER 11, 2014 MEDIA ALERT LATEST NEWS • VIDEOS • ARTICLES Katy Perry’s Staff Learns Transcendental Meditation TMhome / October 7, 2014 The international pop star was clearly elated that her staff were learning the technique she has also been practicing for some time. She tweeted: “SO happy that my tour gets to learn the gift of Transcendental Meditation today! Imagine the [energy] that’s gonna come out of us moving forward!” ...more READ HERE Share this: Meditation a Daily Habit of World’s Most Successful CEOs JT Ripton, Business Insider / October 10, 2014 How do successful CEOs accomplish as much as they do with the same 24 hours as the rest of us? Surprisingly, they seem to have a number of daily habits in common. One of the six habits they share is daily meditation, including Transcendental Meditation. ...more READ HERE Share this: “Everybody Holds the Key to Unlock the Mystery” Max Tholl, The European / October 6, 2014 David Lynch explains how the TM technique contributes to his artistry. “It is an ancient mental technique that allows anybody to dive within and transcend the deepest eternal level of life—the place that is at the base of all matter and mind. Modern science has discovered the Unified Field at the base of all matter—it’s the unity of all particles and forces. That field is what you experience when you transcend: An ocean of consciousness right at your feet.” ...more READ HERE Share this: ©2014 Maharishi Foundation USA, a non-profit educational organization. All rights reserved. Transcendental Meditation® and TM® are protected trademarks and are used in the U.S. under license or with permission. You are subscribed as dickm...@lisco.com. Click here to manage your email subscription preferences. Click here or reply to this email with 'unsubscribe' in the subject to unsubscribe from this list or if you feel you have received this message in error. This message was sent from Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. P.O. Box 670 Fairfield IA 52556 United States. Click here to report email abuse.
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Please tell us who your tantra guru is? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:04 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. From: infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project in San Francisco that uses TM, where the students were found to be the happiest in the city. I would like to try and correct some misunderstandings that may have occurred as a result of certain comments made here recently. 1. There is a post that suggest we 'stole' couches from a one of the high schools we worked in. This is incorrect. We purchase used couches from outside sources, specifically for the Quiet Time program. We own them. 2. That the windows and doors in the rooms we used at a high school were papered over so that no one could see in, and that the school had to remove the papering after we left. A single door to a small room was partially papered only during training sessions to reduce the distraction from other students walking by during passing period. This paper was taken down each day, and was not remaining after the meditation training staff left
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad [1 Attachment]
How does Obama like his crow cooked? On Saturday, October 11, 2014 12:10 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [Attachment(s) from Richard J. Williams included below] According to what I've read, in the next few days President Obama will order thousands of U.S. Marines back into Baghdad, Iraq, in order to save the U.S. embassy. To provide security for the U.S. interests and the U.S. embassy; to fight the ISIS insurgents and drive them back out of the city. Failure is not an option. How is that smart diplomacy working? Islamic State jihadists move within eight miles of the Iraqi capital, sparking calls for America to return to the country 'Iraq asks for US ground troops as Isil threaten Baghdad' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11156264/Iraq-asks-for-US-ground-troops-as-Isil-threaten-Baghdad.html ISIS insurgent rides into downtown Baghdad http://rt.com/news/167636-iraq-cities-captured-isis/ Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Different meditation traditions have different interpretations of what mantras are, and how they should be used. While I don't have access to either book, I've been able to read excerpts through amazon.com and google books: Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning [Frits Staal] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Rituals and Mantras: Rules without Me... View on www.amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal Preview by Yahoo Understanding Mantras http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 Understanding Mantras http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 Understanding Mantras [Harvey P. Alper] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Understanding Mantras explores the origin, nature, function, an... View on www.amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 Preview by Yahoo Maharishi's take on how mantras are meaningless is quite traditional--for some people. It's utter nonsense for others, and that is why there is confusion about whether or not Maharishi is telling the truth about mantras. There's MANY different traditions, and probably sub-traditions within the traditions. Likewise, keeping a mantra as a mental thing never to be written down or spoken aloud appears to be traditional as well--for SOME traditions, and again, there's variations there as well. Best to think of TM as its own tradition with its own rules, rather than trying to justify every little thing that MMY said. Afterall, MMY himself implied that much of what he taught was via intuition (and/or trial and error). By all accounts, the early courses on the TM-SIdhis were substantially different than how they are taught now, for example. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Elvis didn't shoot JFK - Mac Wallace did. Billie Sol said so: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/billie-sol-estes Billie Sol Estes obituary Spectacularly successful Texas fraudster who figured in conspiracy theories about the death of John F Kennedy View on www.theguardian.com Preview by Yahoo From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Image if your local police department reported a murder as someone shot the person. Case closed That's almost what the 9-11 official story is like. You would have been well advised not to use RationalWiki which skeptics don't even like. Those of us who think there is something more to a case than reported don't call ourselves conspiracy theorists. That term has come about and used by PSYOPS to discredit us since the JFK assassination which I don't think Oswald had anything to do with because he had a cheap gun and was seen in the lunch room at the book depository when the assassination took place. He was a convenience patsy due to his activities. If Ruby had not shot him it might have come out that he got framed. Jeez, everyone knows Elvis shot JFK. It's hardly news. Anyone on the right track to solving these crimes who has any visibility such as a news reporter often gets offed or suicided. Some of the nutty stuff you will find in conspiracy theorist are PSYOPS trying to poison the well lest the truth be known. Just think if we could prove beyond a doubt that 9-11 was indeed an inside job and who the perps were how confidence in our government would fall, not that it isn't anyway. And we have long had little confidence in our corporations and banks which these days run like gang operations. After reading the articles Barry posted I was going to write something about how conspiracy theories are probably created by the government to distract everyone from what a crap job they actually do at running the country. Be nice to think there was someone in power who could organise a job that big, we can't even make a computer system to link up health districts without the ministry going bankrupt and abandoning it. The USA is a very dirty place. It was that way from it's inception because some of the wealthy landowners didn't want their workers to have rights and some wanted the US to still be beholding to Britain. Our democracy is an illusion and the king makers hate anyone who points that out. A lot more people would have probably taken to the streets during the Occupy Movement but they feared losing their jobs. We live in a country of increasing have nots, people who have lost even their simple pleasures of life because a plan to put all but a few in austerity. So many detractors here seem to have little knowledge of history and just react emotionally. I guess some folks want to live in a simple world of Santy Claus and Easter Bunnies. Both of which are inventions, just like the conspiracies. What worries is me that you have such a disconnect from the people that run the US that you actually think they would murder thousands of their own people for reasons best known to themselves. There's a kind of movement like that in the UK about the Islamic terrorist that blew up some tube trains a decade ago. The story goes that the government knew about it but let it happen because it would be an excuse to rachet up the anti-terror laws, which completely coincidentally can also be used to harass innocent people whenever the state feels like it. I don't believe it for the simple fact that however cynical politicians get it's their own friends and family that might get blown up. You don't seem to have that sort of human link, sure the govt in the US has blood on its hands but the 9/11 conspiracies are qualitatively different from interfering in the politics of left wing countries or suppressing anti-capitalist demonstrations. It isn't a quantitative thing at all. I think it's the conspiracists that react emotionally, something unbelievable happens and the dots get joined up irrationally, anything to make it make sense that doesn't just mean the world is so dangerous a bunch of religious fruitcakes can walk onto planes in America and fly them into public buildings. I'd hate to live in a country where I thought the government would actually blow me up as an excuse for starting a war in a third world country, some of the residents of which had already made some bold attacks on the US - unless they were conspiracies too. Because of the crap you can find on youtube, I know people who actually think ISIS and Al Queda don't exist at all and were created so the west can clamp down on personal freedom. We realists know they just used the 9/11 and 7/7 bombings as an excuse for
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
In the 1980s I knew some ex-cops from Texas who were probably in witness protection because of what they knew about Billy Sol Estes. On 10/11/2014 11:01 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Some conspiracy theories are more fun and more chilling than others - read this obit of Billie Sol Estes and see what you think: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/billie-sol-estes image http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/billie-sol-estes Billie Sol Estes obituary http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/billie-sol-estes Spectacularly successful Texas fraudster who figured in conspiracy theories about the death of John F Kennedy View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/17/billie-sol-estes Preview by Yahoo *From:* seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 1:46 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11 The term “conspiracy theory”, though I use it myself, is a two-edged sword that may have outlived its usefulness. Those challenging mainstream knowledge and conventions are routinely cast as conspiracy nuts – and implying that such nut jobs glob onto many such “oddball” explanations of the universe as a crutch to cope with reality, It has acquired a derogatory meaning and can become a perverse tool applied to dismiss or ridicule unconventional beliefs, a tool of suppressing sincere inquiry and challenging of prevailing norms and wisdom, defying gut instincts (aka cognitive biases) and seeking truth no matter where it takes you and at what costa. Many breakthroughs and new understanding of how the world works, including counter-culture ideas, and challenges to the establishment, have been initially derided as crack-pot ideas, conspiracy theories, promoted by nut jobs. Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism. A vast list of crack-pot ideas, inflammatory, and/or conspiracy-driven dibble has unfolded and become in our lifetimes mainstream wisdom – a few, both large and small (may) include (not in any order of impact or importance: the Snowden leaks, Pentagon Papers, Lewinsky’s blue dress, lack of weapons of mass destruction, Judith Bourque’s book, Iran-Contra, the Madoff scandal, genocides and mass murder of German concentration camps, Stalin, Mao, Khmer Rouge, Sudan, Native Americans, “California real-estate prices never go down”, the USDA’s food triangle, equal pay for equal work, segregation, JFK’s affairs, Watergate, MY Lai, black site prisons, priest pedophilia, the tech bubble (“you just don’t GET it”), the housing bubble, Goldman Sachs, the extent of regulatory capture, animals having emotions, Sandusky, celebrities coming out of the closet, the Higgs Boson, Masters and Johnson, a black president, LBJ’s decline seek re-election, the value of “health foods”, vegetarianism, yoga and meditation, game-changing technology, global climate change, etc. More so over the march of time – much of mainstream science came from those initially labeled heretics, crackpots, etc. Though many weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things have turned out to be true, that hardly means that all weird, strange, mind-blowing, unbelievable things are true. Some core distinctions are willingness to systematically, without bias or agenda, challenge one’s own and society’s views, models of how the world works, prevailing understandings and conventional wisdom. These are high virtues, not something that is worthy of derision and labels such as conspiracy theories.. However, it is hardly a virtue to be driven by conformational bias in assembling facts to form an apparent, though illusory random pattern in order to fulfill some inner need to cast blows against the empire, exude elitism, deride others, irrationally attempt to bring order and make sense of a seemly, at times, irrational challenging life and universe. /A key distinction is whether one first shoots the arrow or paints the target, is open to considering all evidence, a willingness to change views as new evidence presents itself, always seeking to find alternative answers to explain and overturn one’s current pet POV, having a healthy sense of both skepticism and optimism, and having an identity independent of a particular “truth”. /
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of the time. Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha. My late tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he had not quit smoking. He immediately put on weight when he quit. I also think that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as that tends to happen more with vata types. Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to act on it. For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play well without some help from drugs (or some meditation). On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine, he says. I always associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and facilitates thinking. I just really love those things. - David Lynch
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall of Istanbul Cripples Europe
It doesn't appear that ISIS and al-Qaeda can sustain its dominion unless it has some kind of cooperation by the people in its so called caliphate. Without cooperation by the people in Iraq and Syria and the rest of the world, the militants will soon fall by the sheer force of nature against its existence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey’s border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world. 'The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World' http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html ISIS and al Qaeda at the gates of Europe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/11/2014 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Image if your local police department reported a murder as someone shot the person. Case closed That's almost what the 9-11 official story is like. You would have been well advised not to use RationalWiki which skeptics don't even like. Those of us who think there is something more to a case than reported don't call ourselves conspiracy theorists. That term has come about and used by PSYOPS to discredit us since the JFK assassination which I don't think Oswald had anything to do with because he had a cheap gun and was seen in the lunch room at the book depository when the assassination took place. He was a convenience patsy due to his activities. If Ruby had not shot him it might have come out that he got framed. Jeez, everyone knows Elvis shot JFK. It's hardly news. Anyone on the right track to solving these crimes who has any visibility such as a news reporter often gets offed or suicided. Some of the nutty stuff you will find in conspiracy theorist are PSYOPS trying to poison the well lest the truth be known. Just think if we could prove beyond a doubt that 9-11 was indeed an inside job and who the perps were how confidence in our government would fall, not that it isn't anyway. And we have long had little confidence in our corporations and banks which these days run like gang operations. After reading the articles Barry posted I was going to write something about how conspiracy theories are probably created by the government to distract everyone from what a crap job they actually do at running the country. Be nice to think there was someone in power who could organise a job that big, we can't even make a computer system to link up health districts without the ministry going bankrupt and abandoning it. The USA is a very dirty place. It was that way from it's inception because some of the wealthy landowners didn't want their workers to have rights and some wanted the US to still be beholding to Britain. Our democracy is an illusion and the king makers hate anyone who points that out. A lot more people would have probably taken to the streets during the Occupy Movement but they feared losing their jobs. We live in a country of increasing have nots, people who have lost even their simple pleasures of life because a plan to put all but a few in austerity. So many detractors here seem to have little knowledge of history and just react emotionally. I guess some folks want to live in a simple world of Santy Claus and Easter Bunnies. Both of which are inventions, just like the conspiracies. What worries is me that you have such a disconnect from the people that run the US that you actually think they would murder thousands of their own people for reasons best known to themselves. Whoa, Jack! You're half reading me. I'm not alleging that our politicians conspired to pull off 9-11. It's a shadow government that many people in the US believe exists (and probably many folks in the UK believe about your own government). Killing thousands would rile up Americans (and believe me the days following they were insanely riled) to support anything the government asked if it involved retaliation. So Arab terrorists did 9-11 and we go off and bomb Afghanistan and Iraq. Shouldn't we have bombed Saudi Arabia instead? Something wrong with that picture? BTW, for some reason a lot of people who worked at the WTC were told to stay home that day. There's a kind of movement like that in the UK about the Islamic terrorist that blew up some tube trains a decade ago. The story goes that the government knew about it but let it happen because it would be an excuse to rachet up the anti-terror laws, which completely coincidentally can also be used to harass innocent people whenever the state feels like it. The UK subway bombings indeed smell of a false flag. These types of operations have been around for centuries but I guess that history wasn't your favorite subject? I don't believe it for the simple fact that however cynical politicians get it's their own friends and family that might get blown up. You don't seem to have that sort of human link, sure the govt in the US has blood on its hands but the 9/11 conspiracies are qualitatively different from interfering in the politics of left wing countries or suppressing anti-capitalist demonstrations. It isn't a quantitative thing at all. See my above comment. I think it's the conspiracists that react emotionally, something unbelievable happens and the dots get joined up irrationally, anything to make it make sense that doesn't just mean the world is so dangerous a bunch of religious fruitcakes can walk onto planes in America and fly them into public buildings. I'd hate to live in a country where I thought the government would actually blow me up as an excuse for starting a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
To me the (mythical/hypothetical rational, impartial) jury is still out on the JFK assassination. It has so many undisclosed facts, mistruths, destroyed or missing data, convenient subsequent deaths, agenda's build on agendas (on many sides of the question), whitewashes, etc. For me, 9/11 has similar problems (though I am not equating frameworks or magnitude.) . To me other issues such as the undisclosed, hidden full backroom story and agendas of how and why the US and others have gotten involved in, instigated, and/or prolonged major wars is deeply problematic and troubling (Spanish American war, Philippine American war, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Central America, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan, Lybia, ISIS, etc. Eisenhower's caution about the military/industrial complex is as valid if not more so today than in 1960 when he left office with those words. I would expand it to the military/industrial/financial. So much lays beneath the surface that should be uncovered. Other issues, while fairly well documented still need much more to be uncovered (and the public to wake up to it) such as regulatory capture (when a regulatory agency, created to act in the public interest, advances the commercial or special concerns of interest groups that dominate the industry or sector it is charged with regulating), the revolving door between government and high paying private sector jobs and influence, the power and influence of of Investment banks, the substantial science supporting global warming and the vast and far reaching costs and disruption of its current and unfolding impacts over the next century agra-business's influence on public (non)nutrition AMA and FDA (at times) perverse influence and roadblocks to the pursuit of a healthy life the obstacles to deep, constructive reform to primary and secondary education (including and not limited to teachers unions, text book publishers, etc) the perverse and cozy healthcare / insurance complex Medicare solvency advances in brain science in the past 10 years concentration of power in governments, corporations and high wealth individuals/families pervasive influence of cognitive biases and irrational / anti-science bias growing divergence of income distribution There are so many issues that need fuller investigation, disclosure and understanding. Given limited time and resources, to me its a question of choosing one's battles, identifying which areas of disclosure and changes will make a substantive difference. And that is at the cost of less focus on really perverse, messed-up, clearly corrupt, black (yet still fascinating and intriguing) events and processes. To me, the JFK assassination (as well as Kennedy's and brothers' at least in part questionable behind the scenes actions and agendas) are fascinating -- having lived through that era and through the implications of those events -- and clearly somethings are still quite rotten and smelly. However, will getting to the bottom of that provide as much fuel for positive change and reform as, for example, helping to provide greater insight into, and actions to help mitigate and adapt to, the vast tsunami of disruption that global climate change that is unfolding? Or does real change really begin (and end) with individual change. Is that the more effective pursuit -- even if it means foregoing worthy public inquiry outlined above?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult
This idea amounts to higher taxation for the employed and the rich in order to pay out the basic income to the unemployed and the poor. I don't think this is going to work here in the USA. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mikemail4you@... wrote : http://earthweareone.com/swiss-to-pay-basic-income-2500-francs-per-month-to-every-adult/ Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Ev... http://earthweareone.com/swiss-to-pay-basic-income-2500-francs-per-month-to-every-adult/ Switzerland may start paying every adult (whether they work or not) a salary of over $2000 per month, based on the idea that their citizens will have more time to... View on earthweareone.com http://earthweareone.com/swiss-to-pay-basic-income-2500-francs-per-month-to-every-adult/ Preview by Yahoo Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult http://earthweareone.com/swiss-to-pay-basic-income-2500-francs-per-month-to-every-adult/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Mac: Very well said. This sentence, Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism., stood out for me. In the face of a modern age, with an endless cascade of information, to assimilate, or challenge, it becomes an easy out, to draw broad conclusions, either casting too critical an eye at unconventional life, or, becoming naively accepting of it. I try to keep an open mind, especially for events where I was not present, and must rely on a media source for information. Mac: Fwiw, in terms of public events, the one that still has me thinking, is the JFK killing - Mostly because Oswald was then killed, in a highly secure environment (the basement of Dallas Police HQ), by Jack Ruby, who then died on the eve of his second trial, four years later, at 55. Perhaps it was exactly how the govt. said it was, but too many questions, for my liking. Seerdope Reply: To me the (mythical/hypothetical rational, impartial) jury is still out on the JFK assassination. It has so many undisclosed facts, mistruths, destroyed or missing data, convenient subsequent deaths, agenda's build on agendas (on many sides of the question), whitewashes, etc. For me, 9/11 has similar problems (though I am not equating frameworks or magnitude.) . To me other issues such as the undisclosed, hidden full backroom story and agendas of how and why the US and others have gotten involved in, instigated, and/or prolonged major wars is deeply problematic and troubling (Spanish American war, Philippine American war, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Central America, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan, Lybia, ISIS, etc. Eisenhower's caution about the military/industrial complex is as valid if not more so today than in 1960 when he left office with those words. I would expand it to the military/industrial/financial. So much lays beneath the surface that should be uncovered. Other issues, while fairly well documented still need much more to be uncovered (and the public to wake up to it) such as regulatory capture (when a regulatory agency, created to act in the public interest, advances the commercial or special concerns of interest groups that dominate the industry or sector it is charged with regulating), the revolving door between government and high paying private sector jobs and influence, the power and influence of of Investment banks, the substantial science supporting global warming and the vast and far reaching costs and disruption of its current and unfolding impacts over the next century agra-business's influence on public (non)nutrition AMA and FDA (at times) perverse influence and roadblocks to the pursuit of a healthy life the obstacles to deep, constructive reform to primary and secondary education (including and not limited to teachers unions, text book publishers, etc) the perverse and cozy healthcare / insurance complex Medicare solvency advances in brain science in the past 10 years concentration of power in governments, corporations and high wealth individuals/families pervasive influence of cognitive biases and irrational / anti-science bias growing divergence of income distribution There are so many issues that need fuller investigation, disclosure and understanding. Given limited time and resources, to me its a question of choosing one's battles, identifying which areas of disclosure and changes will make a substantive difference. And that is at the cost of less focus on really perverse, messed-up, clearly corrupt, black (yet still fascinating and intriguing) events and processes. To me, the JFK assassination (as well as Kennedy's and brothers' at least in part questionable behind the scenes actions and agendas) are fascinating -- having lived through that era and through the implications of those events -- and clearly somethings are still quite rotten and smelly. However, will getting to the bottom of that provide as much fuel for positive change and reform as, for example, helping to provide greater insight into, and actions to help mitigate and adapt to, the vast tsunami of disruption that global climate change that is unfolding? Or does real change really begin (and end) with individual change. Is that the more effective pursuit -- even if it means foregoing worthy public inquiry outlined above?
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Tell you I guess since I'm talked about him over the years and posted his videos and folks commented on him (and some visited him). His site has expired as his son failed to renew the domain name but here is his YouTube channel. He passed away of heart failure two years ago this month. https://www.youtube.com/user/Swami999 He's not the only guru by a long shot who thought the mantras came about by trial and error instead of being cognized. So they were recognized instead. On 10/11/2014 12:20 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Please tell us who your tantra guru is? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:04 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sun...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. *From:* infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM *Subject:* 399652Re:
[FairfieldLife] Ebola On A Plane!
/It is very difficult to screen for Ebola. So far, there have been no cases of transmission on flights during this outbreak. The real problem is when the disease becomes airborne. So far, this hasn't happened yet either. Air-born Ebola on a plane is going to be a nightmare! / NEW YORK - Customs and health officials began taking the temperatures of passengers arriving at New York's Kennedy International Airport from three West African countries on Saturday in a stepped-up screening effort meant to prevent the spread of the Ebola virus... 'Stepped-up Ebola screening starts at NYC airport' Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/lcu9bw7 The UK is to begin screening some passengers who have traveled from Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea for signs of Ebola virus disease. http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29549722 Signs and symptoms of Ebola infection: Fever (greater than 38.6°C or 101.5°F) Severe headache Muscle pain Weakness Diarrhea Vomiting Abdominal (stomach) pain http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/index.html
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Book a flight to India and ask around. Do your homework. On 10/11/2014 12:25 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Different meditation traditions have different interpretations of what mantras are, and how they should be used. While I don't have access to either book, I've been able to read excerpts through amazon.com and google books: Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal image http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal Ritual and Mantras: Rules without Meaning [Frits Staal] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Rituals and Mantras: Rules without Me... View on www.amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Ritual-Mantras-Rules-without-Meaning/dp/8120814118/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1411674554sr=8-3keywords=mantra+staal Preview by Yahoo Understanding Mantras http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 image http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 Understanding Mantras http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 Understanding Mantras [Harvey P. Alper] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Understanding Mantras explores the origin, nature, function, an... View on www.amazon... http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Mantras-Harvey-P-Alper/dp/8120807464/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1411674614sr=1-1 Preview by Yahoo Maharishi's take on how mantras are meaningless is quite traditional--for some people. It's utter nonsense for others, and that is why there is confusion about whether or not Maharishi is telling the truth about mantras. There's MANY different traditions, and probably sub-traditions within the traditions. Likewise, keeping a mantra as a mental thing never to be written down or spoken aloud appears to be traditional as well--for SOME traditions, and again, there's variations there as well. Best to think of TM as its own tradition with its own rules, rather than trying to justify every little thing that MMY said. Afterall, MMY himself implied that much of what he taught was via intuition (and/or trial and error). By all accounts, the early courses on the TM-SIdhis were substantially different than how they are taught now, for example. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. *From:* steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into
Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Rick Archer
Happy Birthday Rick (if you're still counting). On 10/11/2014 07:17 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: May it be the happiest year of your life...so far!
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Where did you meet him? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 4:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Tell you I guess since I'm talked about him over the years and posted his videos and folks commented on him (and some visited him). His site has expired as his son failed to renew the domain name but here is his YouTube channel. He passed away of heart failure two years ago this month. https://www.youtube.com/user/Swami999 He's not the only guru by a long shot who thought the mantras came about by trial and error instead of being cognized. So they were recognized instead. On 10/11/2014 12:20 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Please tell us who your tantra guru is? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:04 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag? $423,500, according to NIH records. The NIH also once spent $442,000 to study the behavior of male prostitutes in Vietnam. The NIH once spent $800,000 in “stimulus funds” to study the impact of a “genital-washing program” on men in South Africa. I realize that your much vaunted master Mahesh Prasad lied like a dog all the time, so it could be you are lying as is our tradition but for your own sake, at least make the prevarications somewhat credible. From: infor cwae infocwae@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco I am the Director of Operations for the school meditation project
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Snoozguru (is that Bhairitu?) said: You would have been well advised not to use RationalWiki which skeptics don't even like. SD: I am not relying on RationalWiki as an authority. However, it provides some credible counter arguments to some 9/11 points that you (and others, such as O'keefe in related video) have raised. I don't find all the points raised in the 9/11 section of RationalWiki particular relevant or well considered. The same points that I drew upon are found from a number of alternative sources. RationalWiki simply compiled otherwise existing information is a convenient format (for me). I hope you will address (at least some) of the specific counter points that I listed. I hope you will not not blanketly discredit or disregard the counterpoints because you are not a fan of the site that compiled them from many other sources. I do not have a rigid stance on many 911 issues and am not trying to win any sort of debate. You raised some interesting points. Upon research I found,further information that, until refuted or discredited, appears to counter some of your your points. Not the end of the story in my view. Successive exchanges of points and rational counterpoints is at least one means to get further towards the bottom of things. Snoozeguru: Those of us who think there is something more to a case than reported don't call ourselves conspiracy theorists. SD: I don't like the term conspiracy theorist either as I outline in a prior post this morning. I was responding to Turq's (to me useful) articles -- but pointing out the pitfalls of terms stemming from conspiracy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Doug Henning
/Never pass up a tragedy if you think it will help you win your religious debate./ On 10/11/2014 11:28 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html image http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices.^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_%28musical%29#cite_note-1 During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 10/11/2014 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : What worries is me that you have such a disconnect from the people that run the US that you actually think they would murder thousands of their own people for reasons best known to themselves. Whoa, Jack! You're half reading me. I'm not alleging that our politicians conspired to pull off 9-11. It's a shadow government that many people in the US believe exists (and probably many folks in the UK believe about your own government). Killing thousands would rile up Americans (and believe me the days following they were insanely riled) to support anything the government asked if it involved retaliation. So Arab terrorists did 9-11 and we go off and bomb Afghanistan and Iraq. Shouldn't we have bombed Saudi Arabia instead? Something wrong with that picture? But the hijackers weren't working for the Saudi government. The organisers lived in Afghanistan and we just knocked off Iraq for the hell of it. Been after an excuse for years. BTW, for some reason a lot of people who worked at the WTC were told to stay home that day. There's a kind of movement like that in the UK about the Islamic terrorist that blew up some tube trains a decade ago. The story goes that the government knew about it but let it happen because it would be an excuse to rachet up the anti-terror laws, which completely coincidentally can also be used to harass innocent people whenever the state feels like it. The UK subway bombings indeed smell of a false flag. These types of operations have been around for centuries but I guess that history wasn't your favorite subject? I think you've lost it. Can you tell fact from fiction any more? Too much TV perhaps, it's hard to tell sometimes, except the news doesn't have happy endings. I don't believe it for the simple fact that however cynical politicians get it's their own friends and family that might get blown up. You don't seem to have that sort of human link, sure the govt in the US has blood on its hands but the 9/11 conspiracies are qualitatively different from interfering in the politics of left wing countries or suppressing anti-capitalist demonstrations. It isn't a quantitative thing at all. See my above comment. I think it's the conspiracists that react emotionally, something unbelievable happens and the dots get joined up irrationally, anything to make it make sense that doesn't just mean the world is so dangerous a bunch of religious fruitcakes can walk onto planes in America and fly them into public buildings. I'd hate to live in a country where I thought the government would actually blow me up as an excuse for starting a war in a third world country, some of the residents of which had already made some bold attacks on the US - unless they were conspiracies too. In the 1960s they wanted to send us young guys off to the rice paddies of Vietnam to get our asses shot off. Gulf of Tonkin is a confirmed false flag to gain public support. The poor Vietnamese just wanted their country back after centuries of domination by foreign powers. Now we do trade with them. Go figger. Because of the crap you can find on youtube, I know people who actually think ISIS and Al Queda don't exist at all and were created so the west can clamp down on personal freedom. We realists know they just used the 9/11 and 7/7 bombings as an excuse for that. This history of Al Qaeda is well known from their existence as Mujahideen and supported by our CIA to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan. They've now morphed into ISIS. Erm, that's what I've said here many times. It's the conspiracy theorists who've taken it too far. Not me. Some of us weren't born yesterday. BTW, when is it you turn 1? :-D I'm guessing this is some derision at challenging ideas yes?
Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's vedic, they'll cough. They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was self-referral. Like that explains anything at all. He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of the time. Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha. My late tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he had not quit smoking. He immediately put on weight when he quit. I also think that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as that tends to happen more with vata types. Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to act on it. For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play well without some help from drugs (or some meditation). On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine, he says. I always associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and facilitates thinking. I just really love those things. - David Lynch
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Yeah, of course you can find MANY who would be part of arranging a false flag for 9-11. What a bunch of blinkered fools we are. Let's open our scrunched-up eyes a crack and admit one thing: the authorities of the world will do cruelty in any form upon anyone no matter the legal framework. Your local cop IS A MOTHERFUCKING KILLER wishing for his moment to totally ruin someone's life. And if he isn't, then he's an enabler of a fellow cop who is a sociopathand that is just AS BAD. Case in point: I know of an 2007 incident in sleepy little-town FAIRFIELD in which a cop TORTURED A ROO for over 12 hours in the presence of the other officers. Not a headline. (Don't ask for details -- can't out a Roo who doesn't want more of the same if he's seen bitching about it in public. No charges, let the guy go the next day.) But see? This is the heart of darkness within ALL OF US in Kali Yuga. Even our heroes will be found to be tilted in this age. Even the good guys...consider how the TMO did all it could to subvert the legal requirements during the murder at MUM. Those were saints, right? Even inside them was the I get to do whatever shit I want to dynamic. Consider Ed Beckeley, Dr. Bloomfield, the commodities groups, the TMO money laundering and smuggling, etc. I have been to 17 countries and saw the same shit everywhere. Give someone a gun and they're looking for game cuz they're on safari, donchaknow. To sum: how many good Americans would be willing to put a tactical nuke inside a 9-11 tower? Almost any cop, any soldier. Deal with this fact. It's the truth. Krishna took sattva with Him 5,000 years ago. There's no Arjuna out there wearing a badge of honor and integrity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
seerdope, I agree and ask myself 1 question: if the conspiracy theories are true, which I think they are, would I live my life any differently. The answer is no. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:24 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Mac: Very well said. This sentence, Derision of challenging and troubling ideas is a core defense mechanism., stood out for me. In the face of a modern age, with an endless cascade of information, to assimilate, or challenge, it becomes an easy out, to draw broad conclusions, either casting too critical an eye at unconventional life, or, becoming naively accepting of it. I try to keep an open mind, especially for events where I was not present, and must rely on a media source for information. Mac: Fwiw, in terms of public events, the one that still has me thinking, is the JFK killing - Mostly because Oswald was then killed, in a highly secure environment (the basement of Dallas Police HQ), by Jack Ruby, who then died on the eve of his second trial, four years later, at 55. Perhaps it was exactly how the govt. said it was, but too many questions, for my liking. Seerdope Reply: To me the (mythical/hypothetical rational, impartial) jury is still out on the JFK assassination. It has so many undisclosed facts, mistruths, destroyed or missing data, convenient subsequent deaths, agenda's build on agendas (on many sides of the question), whitewashes, etc. For me, 9/11 has similar problems (though I am not equating frameworks or magnitude.) . To me other issues such as the undisclosed, hidden full backroom story and agendas of how and why the US and others have gotten involved in, instigated, and/or prolonged major wars is deeply problematic and troubling (Spanish American war, Philippine American war, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Central America, Gulf War, Iraq and Afghanistan, Lybia, ISIS, etc. Eisenhower's caution about the military/industrial complex is as valid if not more so today than in 1960 when he left office with those words. I would expand it to the military/industrial/financial. So much lays beneath the surface that should be uncovered. Other issues, while fairly well documented still need much more to be uncovered (and the public to wake up to it) such as * regulatory capture (when a regulatory agency, created to act in the public interest, advances the commercial or special concerns of interest groups that dominate the industry or sector it is charged with regulating), * the revolving door between government and high paying private sector jobs and influence, * the power and influence of of Investment banks, * the substantial science supporting global warming and the vast and far reaching costs and disruption of its current and unfolding impacts over the next century * agra-business's influence on public (non)nutrition * AMA and FDA (at times) perverse influence and roadblocks to the pursuit of a healthy life * the obstacles to deep, constructive reform to primary and secondary education (including and not limited to teachers unions, text book publishers, etc) * the perverse and cozy healthcare / insurance complex * Medicare solvency * advances in brain science in the past 10 years * concentration of power in governments, corporations and high wealth individuals/families * pervasive influence of cognitive biases and irrational / anti-science bias * growing divergence of income distribution There are so many issues that need fuller investigation, disclosure and understanding. Given limited time and resources, to me its a question of choosing one's battles, identifying which areas of disclosure and changes will make a substantive difference. And that is at the cost of less focus on really perverse, messed-up, clearly corrupt, black (yet still fascinating and intriguing) events and processes. To me, the JFK assassination (as well as Kennedy's and brothers' at least in part questionable behind the scenes actions and agendas) are fascinating -- having lived through that era and through the implications of those events -- and clearly somethings are still quite rotten and smelly. However, will getting to the bottom of that provide as much fuel for positive change and reform as, for example, helping to provide greater insight into, and actions to help mitigate and adapt to, the vast tsunami of disruption that global climate change that is unfolding? Or does real change really begin (and end) with individual change. Is that the more effective pursuit -- even if it means foregoing worthy public inquiry outlined above?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. /There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. / How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. /Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad./ 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : /Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting.// // //According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome./ With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. /'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport'/ http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall of Istanbul Cripples Europe
On 10/11/2014 2:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It doesn't appear that ISIS and al-Qaeda can sustain its dominion unless it has some kind of cooperation by the people in its so called caliphate. Without cooperation by the people in Iraq and Syria and the rest of the world, the militants will soon fall by the sheer force of nature against its existence. REYHANLI, Turkey — The U.S.-led air war in Syria has gotten off to a rocky start, with even the Syrian rebel groups closest to the United States turning against it, U.S. ally Turkey refusing to contribute and the plight of a beleaguered Kurdish town exposing the limitations of the strategy... 'U.S.-led air war in Syria is off to a difficult start' The Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/us-led-air-war-in-syria-is-off-to-a-difficult-start-with-moderate-rebels-disenchanted/2014/10/10/e0949dfa-4fe9-11e4-aa5e-7153e466a02d_story.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : /As ISIS continues to advance on the Syrian town of Kobani and close in on Turkey’s border, experts in Islamic radical movements think the terror group may merge with its al-Qaeda mother organization soon. Together, the group would represent the greatest terror threat to the civilized world./ 'The Merger of ISIS and al-Qaeda Could Cripple the Civilized World' http://finance.yahoo.com/news/merger-isis-al-qaeda-could-104500024.html /ISIS and al Qaeda at the gates of Europe/
[FairfieldLife] FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha
Wikipaedia: Gaudapada wrote or compiled[24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTENakamura2004308-31 the Māṇḍukya Kārikā, also known as the Gauḍapāda Kārikā and as the Āgama Śāstra.[note 7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-32 Gaudapda took over the Buddhist doctrines that ultimate reality is pure consciousness (vijñapti-mātra) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogacara#Representation-only[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-2 Gaudapada wove [both doctrines] into a philosophy of the Mandukaya Upanisad, which was further developed by Shankara.Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Yoga View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/11/2014 4:03 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Yeah, of course you can find MANY who would be part of arranging a false flag for 9-11. If you don't agree with every single word of this guy's rant, YOU'RE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD. Duveyoung Wed, 08 Oct 2014 10:02:10 -0700 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg332298.html /O'Keefe denied the plausibility that the September 11 attacks were committed by Osama bin Laden and the 19 hijackers. He claimed it was an inside job and that the US government and intelligence agencies, including Mossad were responsible./ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O%27Keefe
Re: [FairfieldLife] FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha
/You must be new around here - we already discussed this with emptybill. LoL!/ On 10/11/2014 4:21 PM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Wikipaedia: Gaudapada wrote or compiled^[24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTENakamura2004308-31 the Māṇḍukya Kārikā, also known as the Gauḍapāda Kārikā and as the Āgama Śāstra.^[note 7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-32 Gaudapda took over the Buddhist doctrines that ultimate reality is pure consciousness (/vijñapti-mātra/) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogacara#Representation-only^[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-2 Gaudapada wove [both doctrines] into a philosophy of the /Mandukaya Upanisad/, which was further developed by Shankara.^Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Vedanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Yoga View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta#cite_note-FOOTNOTERaju1992177-178-33 Preview by Yahoo
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
Bhairitu: He's not the only guru by a long shot who thought the mantras came about by trial and error instead of being cognized. So they were recognized instead. I look to science when credible research is available. However, lots of life does not (yet) have substantial numbers of of peer-reviewed double blind studies (if applicable) to help validate a hypothesis. For me, another source of (some) validation, is the fruits of evolutionary adaptation. Whether in insight was cognized, or recognized, seen under the influence, or in dreams, deduced, or brainstormed, etc, is not key. The core question is whether some traditional practice (medicinal, health, spiritual, psychological, artistic, customs, rituals) provided some evolutionary advantage over 100s of not 1000's of generations. That is, on day 1, who knows, it may have been a Life of Brian type scene, of 1000 different crazy and diverse truths being pronounced -- no matter how derived. However, some groups (families, tribes, villages, cultures, etc) survived, others did not. Undoubtedly, some instances of success were undoubtedly random. Spurious correlations (of which some great and beautiful examples were posted by someone the other day.) A FEW actually (may have had) a causal effect whereby A did (a majority of the time) result in B (particularly if you did it with C and D co-factors, etc). . The statistical probability that a particular intervention (ritual, custom, practice) provided some survival (affluence, success, well-being) value gets stronger with each successive generation of practicioners. Over time, over many generations, practices based on spurious correlations become less. Practices with some causal power increase. Over 100's of generations, the probability of some sustained cultural practice being a fluke, a random outcome, a spurious correlation), becomes smaller. And over 100's of generations, I presume many variations of rituals, customs, practices etc were tweaked and outcomes observed. More successful variations were sustained, others dropped off. Edison said he never failed when attempting to develop a new technology, but he did find 10,000 things that did not work. The process of adaptive evolution might be viewed in similar vein. 1000's of variations of ritual, practices, customs were conducted, over 100's of generations. Many were found to not work and were discarded, and the few success stories were kept and passed on to subsequent generations. These successful practices provided an evolutionary advantage to these particular groups, families, villages, tribes or networks. They tended to succeed and flourish while others, not using that particular practice, ritual, custom did less so, or eventually fizzled out. Someone once quipped God [or Nature] created Karma and then retired. An alternative hypothesis is that God [Nature] created Evolutionary Adaptation and then retired. (Outside the box, perhaps karma is a tool of evolutionary adaptation, or vv.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: FWIW: Gaudapada and Buddha
I like what MMY says on the subject, reality is both relative (dynamic) and absolute (silent), the unity of the two is the eternal reality of living being. Only in the pralaya does the Absolute exist ALONE. When creation re-emerges from pralaya, all the pure souls come out as they went in and hence the drama continueswe do have, indeed, eternal life. We may have bodies of solar systems or great galaxies as time goes by. FWIW Pralaya, in Hindu cosmology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_cosmology, is an aeonic term for Dissolution, which specifies different periods of time during which non activity situation persists, as per different formats or contexts. The word Mahapralaya stands for Great Dissolution. During each pralaya, the lower ten realms (loka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loka) are destroyed,[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pralaya#cite_note-shivp-1 while the higher four realms, including Satya-loka http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satya-loka, Tapa-loka, Jana-loka, and Mahar-loka are preserved.
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
A friend who was also a TM teacher had him as a patient and Swami offered to teach him. So I met him through my friend. I didn't just jump in but met with him a number of times before learning from him about 6 months later. There even some folks who had been on Purusha who learned from him. On 10/11/2014 01:39 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Where did you meet him? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 4:29 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Tell you I guess since I'm talked about him over the years and posted his videos and folks commented on him (and some visited him). His site has expired as his son failed to renew the domain name but here is his YouTube channel. He passed away of heart failure two years ago this month. https://www.youtube.com/user/Swami999 He's not the only guru by a long shot who thought the mantras came about by trial and error instead of being cognized. So they were recognized instead. On 10/11/2014 12:20 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Please tell us who your tantra guru is? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2014 3:04 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco The biggest problem with TM is though it tried to be secular it is not secular enough. Maharishi goofed by saying that the mantras are meaningless sounds. They are attributed to the Hindu pantheon but are really just sounds. The pantheon itself is made up as analogies to forces in nature. It just so happens that those sounds work well and may be better than others. Even my tantra guru thought they were arrived at by trial and error. And as I have mentioned many a time beej mantras can be used by anyone and it doesn't take a puja to activate them. It's long mantras like the Advanced Technique that required special handling. On 10/11/2014 05:16 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sun...@yahoo.com[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM *Subject:* Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price tag?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
On 10/11/2014 01:56 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 10/11/2014 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : What worries is me that you have such a disconnect from the people that run the US that you actually think they would murder thousands of their own people for reasons best known to themselves. Whoa, Jack! You're half reading me. I'm not alleging that our politicians conspired to pull off 9-11. It's a shadow government that many people in the US believe exists (and probably many folks in the UK believe about your own government). Killing thousands would rile up Americans (and believe me the days following they were insanely riled) to support anything the government asked if it involved retaliation. So Arab terrorists did 9-11 and we go off and bomb Afghanistan and Iraq. Shouldn't we have bombed Saudi Arabia instead? Something wrong with that picture? But the hijackers weren't working for the Saudi government. You know this how? Supposedly the 28 pages redacted from the Official 911 Report say otherwise. Some members of Congress who have read those pages want them released to the public. The organisers lived in Afghanistan and we just knocked off Iraq for the hell of it. Been after an excuse for years. Yup, Rumsfeld even has been quoted as asking if there was a way to tie Saddam to 9-11. But then I've mentioned I heard in the late 1990s the military was preparing for a war in the middle east. They just needed a new Pearl Harbor even if they did it themselves. For the record I opposed wars of empire as any sane thinking American should. BTW, for some reason a lot of people who worked at the WTC were told to stay home that day. There's a kind of movement like that in the UK about the Islamic terrorist that blew up some tube trains a decade ago. The story goes that the government knew about it but let it happen because it would be an excuse to rachet up the anti-terror laws, which completely coincidentally can also be used to harass innocent people whenever the state feels like it. The UK subway bombings indeed smell of a false flag. These types of operations have been around for centuries but I guess that history wasn't your favorite subject? I think you've lost it. Can you tell fact from fiction any more? Too much TV perhaps, it's hard to tell sometimes, except the news doesn't have happy endings. Why couldn't it have been a false flag? I bet you swallowed the propaganda hook line and sinker. I don't believe it for the simple fact that however cynical politicians get it's their own friends and family that might get blown up. You don't seem to have that sort of human link, sure the govt in the US has blood on its hands but the 9/11 conspiracies are qualitatively different from interfering in the politics of left wing countries or suppressing anti-capitalist demonstrations. It isn't a quantitative thing at all. See my above comment. I think it's the conspiracists that react emotionally, something unbelievable happens and the dots get joined up irrationally, anything to make it make sense that doesn't just mean the world is so dangerous a bunch of religious fruitcakes can walk onto planes in America and fly them into public buildings. I'd hate to live in a country where I thought the government would actually blow me up as an excuse for starting a war in a third world country, some of the residents of which had already made some bold attacks on the US - unless they were conspiracies too. In the 1960s they wanted to send us young guys off to the rice paddies of Vietnam to get our asses shot off. Gulf of Tonkin is a confirmed false flag to gain public support. The poor Vietnamese just wanted their country back after centuries of domination by foreign powers. Now we do trade with them. Go figger. Because of the crap you can find on youtube, I know people who actually think ISIS and Al Queda don't exist at all and were created so the west can clamp down on personal freedom. We realists know they just used the 9/11 and 7/7 bombings as an excuse for that. This history of Al Qaeda is well known from their existence as Mujahideen and supported by our CIA to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan. They've now morphed into ISIS. Erm, that's what I've said here many times. It's the conspiracy theorists who've taken it too far. Not me. That's history pal. Look it up! Or are you afraid to? Some of us weren't born yesterday. BTW, when is it you turn 1? :-D I'm guessing this is some derision at challenging ideas
[FairfieldLife] Traditional Practices and Evolutionary Advantage
Bhairitu: He's not the only guru by a long shot who thought the mantras came about by trial and error instead of being cognized. So they were recognized instead. I look to science when credible research is available. However, lots of life does not (yet) have substantial numbers of of peer-reviewed double blind studies (if applicable) to help validate a hypothesis. For me, another source of (some) validation, is the fruits of evolutionary advantage. Whether in insight was cognized, or recognized, seen under the influence, or in dreams, deduced, or brainstormed, etc, is not key. The core question is whether some traditional practice (medicinal, health, spiritual, psychological, artistic, customs, rituals) provided some evolutionary advantage over 100s of not 1000's of generations. That is, on day 1, who knows, it may have been a Life of Brian type scene, of 1000 different crazy and diverse truths being pronounced -- no matter how derived. However, some groups (families, tribes, villages, cultures, etc) survived, others did not. Undoubtedly, some instances of success were undoubtedly random. Spurious correlations (of which some great and beautiful examples were posted by someone the other day.) A FEW actually (may have had) a causal effect whereby A did (a majority of the time) result in B (particularly if you did it with C and D co-factors, etc). . The statistical probability that a particular intervention (ritual, custom, practice) provided some survival (affluence, success, well-being) value gets stronger with each successive generation of practicioners. Over time, over many generations, practices based on spurious correlations become less. Practices with some causal power increase. Over 100's of generations, the probability of some sustained cultural practice being a fluke, a random outcome, a spurious correlation), becomes smaller. And over 100's of generations, I presume many variations of rituals, customs, practices etc were tweaked and outcomes observed. More successful variations were sustained, others dropped off. Edison said he never failed when attempting to develop a new technology, but he did find 10,000 things that did not work. The process of evolution advantage might be viewed in similar vein. 1000's of variations of ritual, practices, customs were conducted, over 100's of generations. Many were found to not work and were discarded, and the few success stories were kept and passed on to subsequent generations. These successful practices provided an evolutionary advantage to these particular groups, families, villages, tribes or networks. They tended to succeed and flourish while others, not using that particular practice, ritual, custom did less so, or eventually fizzled out. Someone once quipped God [or Nature] created Karma and then retired. An alternative hypothesis is that God [Nature] created Evolutionary Advantage and and then retired. (Outside the box, perhaps karma is a tool of evolutionary advantage, or vv.) Reply Delete
Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
On 10/11/2014 02:02 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cinobefore puja. It's vedic, they'll cough. They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was self-referral. Like that explains anything at all. In 1976, after returning from TTC where we were told we might have some ayurvedic physicians visiting but didn't happen, I noticed that a book on Ayurveda had been published by a Dr. Thakkur. In there was the listing of tobacco as an anti-kapha agent (among many other substances of course). Both tobacco and coffee raise the metabolism and hence aid the body in burning off calories. The role of coffee in helping with diabetes type II is now being notedly publicly even though I head of the research several years ago. For obviously reasons tobacco isn't pushed as a cure as there are plenty other safe stimulants. And to be fair I don't think Lynch recommends his diet and habits to anyone else.
Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco
It is an opinion, not a statement of fact when you state what you do about the NIH. They are different things - opinions and facts, I'm sure you know. Or if you don't, it might be a good place for you to start when trying to sort things out. Good luck! Let me know if I can help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : You have not addressed how my statement is inaccurate (You can't, because it isn't) nor have you addressed why you need to continue to defend an organization that has a long track record of lies and deception and its founder and the technique itself when you no longer do the technique, nor its advanced programs and don't teach it anymore. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 10:14 AM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Oh, Holy Mother of Jesus. So, let me get this straight. The TMO is a lying organization from gitgo. (or so you say). We know the rest, right, Marshy, old goat, ladeda deda. The same diatribe you pour out several times a day. But, you are saying, that because you view the TMO as a disreputable organization, you now have the right to make inflammatory, inaccurate, partial truth statement about same organization. Believe me. I know that makes sense to you. But, ...what was it you were saying about mental problems? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : What a double standard fool you are - you are asking me or anyone else to make objective statements about the TM or the TMO??? When has the TMO ever done that? With them its all about telling over the top lies to make money and you who claim not to even meditate much anymore have to defend them? You got mental problems that just won't quit. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 8:36 AM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, You can't be trusted to make any kind of objective statement regarding TM. If it were to your advantage to praise the NIH in some regard, you would do so. You have no in-depth knowledge of the studies you cite below. On the surface, they look frivolous, but you have no idea if some real benefit may have come from them. Again, your only interest in citing those studies, is a means to discredit TM. And your case is weak in this instance, and often quite skewed (to say the least) in the other instances you come up with on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Address what I said to him. How is that stupid? I showed quite clearly that he is a liar. The NIH hands out money to just about anyone who can write a grant proposal. You might even be able to get a few million to study why TM'er are more predisposed to become slavish minded dumbasses later in life. But in the final analysis society will be better off studying the way South Africans wash their balls than bullshit studies on TM's weak and non-existent benefits - most of TM's modern benefits are lining the TMO's pockets. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 9:29 PM Subject: Re: 399652Re: [FairfieldLife] The Happiest school in San Francisco Michael, Did you become this stupid because you stopped your practice of TM and the TMSP? You brain is addled by TM, but not in the way you think. Try something. I don't know what. But try to develop an interest other than TM. You are sinking into utter idiocy. P.S. Try looking back at some of your more early posts. Occasionally you had something interesting to say. A funny thing happened on the way to forum. But in your case, it's just no so funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One more note, Mr. Nameless Director of Operations, your assertion on funding by the NIH - to be funded by the NIH, rigorous assessment is performed by highly experienced scientists. If the research was bogus or deeply flawed, the research would not be funded or published. This is, quite honestly complete bullshit. All one has to do to get funding by the NIH is to know how to write a grant proposal. That's it. Here are just a few things the NIH has funded over the years, some of them nearly as stupid as funding research on TM. The National Institutes of Health paid researchers $400,000 to find out why gay men in Argentina engage in risky sexual behavior when they are drunk. Researchers at Indiana University's Kinsey Institute, funded by NIH, investigated why “young heterosexual adult men have problems using condoms.” Price
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
Spot on, Edg. It's amazing how many people who haven't been abroad or worked in government just buy the propaganda. I guess history wasn't their favorite subject. Ask some of the young kids who got shot up in Afghanistan or Iraq why they joined the military? They'll tell you it was the only job they could get. On 10/11/2014 02:03 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Yeah, of course you can find MANY who would be part of arranging a false flag for 9-11. What a bunch of blinkered fools we are. Let's open our scrunched-up eyes a crack and admit one thing: the authorities of the world will do cruelty in any form upon anyone no matter the legal framework. Your local cop IS A MOTHERFUCKING KILLER wishing for his moment to totally ruin someone's life. And if he isn't, then he's an enabler of a fellow cop who is a sociopathand that is just AS BAD. Case in point: I know of an 2007 incident in sleepy little-town FAIRFIELD in which a cop TORTURED A ROO for over 12 hours in the presence of the other officers. Not a headline. (Don't ask for details -- can't out a Roo who doesn't want more of the same if he's seen bitching about it in public. No charges, let the guy go the next day.) But see? This is the heart of darkness within ALL OF US in Kali Yuga. Even our heroes will be found to be tilted in this age. Even the good guys...consider how the TMO did all it could to subvert the legal requirements during the murder at MUM. Those were saints, right? Even inside them was the I get to do whatever shit I want to dynamic. Consider Ed Beckeley, Dr. Bloomfield, the commodities groups, the TMO money laundering and smuggling, etc. I have been to 17 countries and saw the same shit everywhere. Give someone a gun and they're looking for game cuz they're on safari, donchaknow. To sum: how many good Americans would be willing to put a tactical nuke inside a 9-11 tower? Almost any cop, any soldier. Deal with this fact. It's the truth. Krishna took sattva with Him 5,000 years ago. There's no Arjuna out there wearing a badge of honor and integrity.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Henning
As usual Feste, you succinctly express the truth of the situation. And, no, he does not have anything better to do, or seemingly anything else to do for that matter. And in that way, he is a somewhat fascinating study, as sad as it is. I know little about his childhood other than what he has written here, but I am still offering the theory that his failure as a channel has contributed to the never ending bitterness he has towards the TM organization and its founder, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I don't think he realizes that he repeats himself constantly in this regard. But that is something in common he shares with others here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Now that Ann has posted her parody of you, MJ, it's going to be increasingly hard to tell the parody from the real thing. Read the article again. Doug Henning found true love at MIU, and that can't be bad. OK, so he couldn't act or sing, but are you aware of any TM literature that says that if you learn TM, you will become a good actor and singer? Your method is both simple and dumb: find the name of a celebrity who does/did TM, find ways to denigrate him professionally and personally, and then claim you have proved that TM doesn't work. Haven't you anything better to do? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_%28musical%29#cite_note-1 During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Henning
psst, Michael, Feste doesn't do the TMSP. Sorry about that. Now, before you suffer another major episode of cognitive dissonance, go outside and get some fresh air. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Didn't read Ann's parody of me but I am glad that someone who walked away from your much vaunted school to follow a charismatic crazy cult leader pleases you with her writing. And you like Steve the Willy Tex Clone, Willy Tex himself and Danny Boy all have reading comprehension problems. You are looking to find fault with whatever I say if it doesn't praise Marshy the Liar and Fraud, his slavish lieutenants and their university that has existed to turn the minds of intelligent young students into mush through force feeding them Hindu based superstitions. I said very clearly that I liked Henning both personally and professionally and I do. But if you read the article, it shows that he was unhappy in much of his life where he was ALREADY doing TM and TMSP - and that his big musical that the Movement made such a fuss about was a flop. Like I said, its not about Henning, but the fraud and fake that is TM. Also, to reiterate since you don't seem to read or understand well, I said nothing whatsoever to denigrate Henning either personally or professionally. If you would stop doing TMSP and get professional help, you MIGHT in a few years be able to reverse the damage and intelligence atrophy you have suffered from so many years of TMSP - and by the way, if any of your TM buddies in Fairfield see the damage and begin to lead you to their basement to help you pacify your vata, don't go - run as fast as you can. You inspire me to definitely finish my piece entitled A Day in the Life. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Doug Henning Now that Ann has posted her parody of you, MJ, it's going to be increasingly hard to tell the parody from the real thing. Read the article again. Doug Henning found true love at MIU, and that can't be bad. OK, so he couldn't act or sing, but are you aware of any TM literature that says that if you learn TM, you will become a good actor and singer? Your method is both simple and dumb: find the name of a celebrity who does/did TM, find ways to denigrate him professionally and personally, and then claim you have proved that TM doesn't work. Haven't you anything better to do? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I always liked Henning's magic performances, met him once at MIU and got his autograph on one of his posters for my mother who just adored him. Ran across this old article about him and couldn't help but note the lack of age of Enlightenment fulfillment it speaks of for him - lonely, sad, divorces - not exactly an ideal society life seems to me. Just another pointer to what a fraud TM is: http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html After Falling Under the Spell of Wife Debby, Doug Hennin... http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Facebook Twitter View on www.people.com http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20083832,00.html Preview by Yahoo After reading the article I looked up any reference to his Merlin musical and here is what I read: The show was not a critical or financial success and is remembered today chiefly because of the number of preview performances it played: while most shows play a month or so prior to inviting critics and having an official opening, Merlin had 69, never inviting the critics and postponing the opening three times, despite charging full ticket prices. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merlin_%28musical%29#cite_note-1 During the musical's troubled tryouts, the original director (Frank Dunlop) was replaced by Co-Producer Reitman and choreographer Billy Wilson was added. The tune for the song Put a Little Magic in Your Life had previously supported a different lyric: These Are Not the Merriest of Days. Also: When the show went into previews, there were many technical problems, and the opening date was cancelled three times. The New York critics decided enough was enough, and went to review it before it's official opening date. They universally hated it. Henning couldn't act or sing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
The first thing I saw in your points from RationalWiki were Bill Maher and Michael Shermer taken as credible. Maher is a comedian and actually thinks truthers is blaming the government for 9-11 which shows how little he knows about truthers. I say the same about Rachel Maddow who mocks Alex Jones when it is obviously she has never listened to him (one of her interns probably found a few clips that would piss her off to show her). She might be shocked to find she agrees on some stuff that is on Infowars. Michael Shermer has long been known to be a PSYOP and well poisoner. You might as well quote Hearst owned Popular Mechanics, a bastion of yellow journalism. Maybe you can find some articles in Reader's Digest as well. Before I wasted any time with those points I made the effort to look up RationalWiki and it's reputation. There are a number of blog articles and opinion pieces by skeptics who think it is a joke. They'll dig up anything negative to say about anything. Do they have some anti-TM articles as well? Probably anti-Mindfulness pieces as well. Note please that I post my own opinions and if I make references don't demand that people go read them. I do have other things to do. You can look up my past references to 9-11 and debates here going back years. Even Rick questioned WTC 7. I just think that some folks feel really uncomfortable waking up to the idea that they might be living in the Fourth Reich or something like it. The Earth is round BTW. Well not really, it bulges some places. :-D On 10/11/2014 01:45 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Snoozguru (is that Bhairitu?) said: You would have been well advised not to use RationalWiki which skeptics don't even like. SD: I am not relying on RationalWiki as an authority. However, it provides some credible counter arguments to some 9/11 points that you (and others, such as O'keefe in related video) have raised. I don't find all the points raised in the 9/11 section of RationalWiki particular relevant or well considered. The same points that I drew upon are found from a number of alternative sources. RationalWiki simply compiled otherwise existing information is a convenient format (for me). I hope you will address (at least some) of the specific counter points that I listed. I hope you will not not blanketly discredit or disregard the counterpoints because you are not a fan of the site that compiled them from many other sources. I do not have a rigid stance on many 911 issues and am not trying to win any sort of debate. You raised some interesting points. Upon research I found,further information that, until refuted or discredited, appears to counter some of your your points. Not the end of the story in my view. Successive exchanges of points and rational counterpoints is at least one means to get further towards the bottom of things. Snoozeguru: Those of us who think there is something more to a case than reported don't call ourselves conspiracy theorists. SD: I don't like the term conspiracy theorist either as I outline in a prior post this morning. I was responding to Turq's (to me useful) articles -- but pointing out the pitfalls of terms stemming from conspiracy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult
Fascinating experiment. I hope it works out. Giving people a guaranteed, modest allowance should *not* be regarded as a charitable handout. On the contrary, it's a way of emphasising that all of us who are members of a society should be granted some share in that society's wealth as we all are (or should-be) co-inheritors of the capital that our nation has built up over its history. If people then feel that we really are all in this together it has to encourage a shared sense of community - with both the rights *and* obligations (important!) that naturally flow from that sense.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Rick Archer
I see Rick is a Libran then. From a Google search on Libran characteristics I came upon this extract. Sex with a Libran:Sex is an enchanting, sensual experience, like a sex scene out of a movie. Lots of gentle rubbing, stroking, caressing. Libras make very imaginative and creative lovers. They are good at what they do and they are willing to try something new. Always keep it classy however, Libras are not one for bathroom stall sex. Set the mood with lots of teasing foreplay and create ambiance with candles and scented massage oils.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Happy Birthday Rick Archer
I see Rick is a Libran then. From a Google search on Libran characteristics I came upon this extract. Sex with a Libran:Sex is an enchanting, sensual experience, like a sex scene out of a movie. Lots of gentle rubbing, stroking, caressing. Libras make very imaginative and creative lovers. They are good at what they do and they are willing to try something new. Always keep it classy however, Libras are not one for bathroom stall sex. Set the mood with lots of teasing foreplay and create ambience with candles and scented massage oils.
Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch
C'mon! They didn't really claim Lynch's smoking is his self referral?? From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] D Lynch ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : He'd probably weigh over 300 pounds if he quit both. I think Bevan Morris should get back on the fags then, and Hagelin is looking a but chubby these days. I can just see them on the Marshy channel stubbing one out in an ashtray and swigging back the dregs of a 'cino before puja. It's vedic, they'll cough. They had to find a way of excusing Lynchees habits, so they claimed it was self-referral. Like that explains anything at all. He is probably typical American pitta-kapha and kapha dominant too much of the time. Those two substances are known in ayurveda to reduce kapha. My late tantra guru probably would not have have died of congestive heart failure if he had not quit smoking. He immediately put on weight when he quit. I also think that people who are kapha will be less likely get emphysema from smoking as that tends to happen more with vata types. Creative people often fight with having a creative mindset and being able to act on it. For instance a lot of jazz musicians were bright people who easily learned their instruments and music theory but a bit too high strung to play well without some help from drugs (or some meditation). On 10/11/2014 11:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I must have a very high tolerance for caffeine, he says. I always associated smoking and drinking coffee with the art life. They go hand in hand. There's something about drinking coffee and smoking that makes me happy and facilitates thinking. I just really love those things. - David Lynch
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11
That's a powerful statement - wonder how long it'll take Share, Steve and Feste to say no such cop/TMer incident happened? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 5:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Questions 9-11 Yeah, of course you can find MANY who would be part of arranging a false flag for 9-11. What a bunch of blinkered fools we are. Let's open our scrunched-up eyes a crack and admit one thing: the authorities of the world will do cruelty in any form upon anyone no matter the legal framework. Your local cop IS A MOTHERFUCKING KILLER wishing for his moment to totally ruin someone's life. And if he isn't, then he's an enabler of a fellow cop who is a sociopathand that is just AS BAD. Case in point: I know of an 2007 incident in sleepy little-town FAIRFIELD in which a cop TORTURED A ROO for over 12 hours in the presence of the other officers. Not a headline. (Don't ask for details -- can't out a Roo who doesn't want more of the same if he's seen bitching about it in public. No charges, let the guy go the next day.) But see? This is the heart of darkness within ALL OF US in Kali Yuga. Even our heroes will be found to be tilted in this age. Even the good guys...consider how the TMO did all it could to subvert the legal requirements during the murder at MUM. Those were saints, right? Even inside them was the I get to do whatever shit I want to dynamic. Consider Ed Beckeley, Dr. Bloomfield, the commodities groups, the TMO money laundering and smuggling, etc. I have been to 17 countries and saw the same shit everywhere. Give someone a gun and they're looking for game cuz they're on safari, donchaknow. To sum: how many good Americans would be willing to put a tactical nuke inside a 9-11 tower? Almost any cop, any soldier. Deal with this fact. It's the truth. Krishna took sattva with Him 5,000 years ago. There's no Arjuna out there wearing a badge of honor and integrity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Fall Of Baghdad
They're supplied the same way Mohammed supplied his *army*. They just take whatever they want, wherever they go. Whether it's money from banks, food from stockpiles, or weapons, ammunition and transportation from Iraqi army bases. This is your Islamic *work ethic*. Real work is for mensches. On Saturday, October 11, 2014 2:18 PM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 10/11/2014 2:42 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Something is wrong with the US generals' assessment of ISIS. There is no good news coming out of the Middle East - the U.S. supports the Saudis who are Shite Muslims; and at the same time Iranians support the Shiite in Baghdad. But, the ISIS are Sunnis who hate everyone, Muslim and infidel alike. Then, there's Assad to deal with. The only bright spot over there is Israel, the only democracy in the whole Middle East. Go figure. How is it possible for the militants to continue fighting in Iraq and Syria with supposedly only 30,000 fighters? It appears that the militant rebels in or near Baghdad are self-sufficient to fight on their own without help from their Syrian headquarters. So, that means they're getting food, supplies and ammunition within Baghdad itself. I wouldn't be surprised if a secret faction within the ISF is providing the weapons and ammunition to fight the loyal troopers of Iraq. Without large numbers of American troops on the ground in Iraq, we lack the ability to choose targets, to rebuild the capacity of the Iraqi Army quickly and successfully, to constrain the Shiite government from pursuing a sectarian agenda. Without large numbers of troops in Syria, we are unable to distinguish between friend and foe, to train and direct non-Qaeda opposition forces, to address the humanitarian crisis, and to prepare for—and hasten—a world without Bashar Assad. 'Only American ground troops can defeat the Islamic State' The Washington Free Beacon: http://freebeacon.com/columns/accept-no-substitutes/ ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:punditster@... wrote : Our side is suffering serious defeats on the battlefield in Anbar province and Baghdad is ripe for infiltration. Then, it's a guerrilla war in the streets with up close and personal close range fighting. According to President Obama, it's a war against the Islamic State, but who are they? The goal is to roll back the IS in Iraq and contain it in Syria. Soon, Turkey will be pulled into the fight - the ISIS are at the gates today, tomorrow Istanbul and onwards to Rome. With the outlying suburb of Abu Ghraib teetering on completely falling to ISIS, if the area comes under complete control of the Islamists, the Americans will be within easy range of ISIS artillery. 'ISIS reaches Baghdad suburbs, US troops block the way to BGW Int'l Airport' http://www.examiner.com/article/isis-reaches-baghdad-suburbs-us-troops-block-the-way-to-bgw-int-l-airport
Re: [FairfieldLife] Traditional Practices and Evolutionary Advantage
Science knows shit about tantra and mantra shastra. You're looking the wrong way. On 10/11/2014 02:56 PM, seerd...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bhairitu: He's not the only guru by a long shot who thought the mantras came about by trial and error instead of being cognized. So they were recognized instead. I look to science when credible research is available. However, lots of life does not (yet) have substantial numbers of of peer-reviewed double blind studies (if applicable) to help validate a hypothesis. For me, another source of (some) validation, is the fruits of evolutionary advantage. Whether in insight was cognized, or recognized, seen under the influence, or in dreams, deduced, or brainstormed, etc, is not key. The core question is whether some traditional practice (medicinal, health, spiritual, psychological, artistic, customs, rituals) provided some evolutionary advantage over 100s of not 1000's of generations. That is, on day 1, who knows, it may have been a Life of Brian type scene, of 1000 different crazy and diverse truths being pronounced -- no matter how derived. However, some groups (families, tribes, villages, cultures, etc) survived, others did not. Undoubtedly, some instances of success were undoubtedly random. Spurious correlations (of which some great and beautiful examples were posted by someone the other day.) A FEW actually (may have had) a causal effect whereby A did (a majority of the time) result in B (particularly if you did it with C and D co-factors, etc). . The statistical probability that a particular intervention (ritual, custom, practice) provided some survival (affluence, success, well-being) value gets stronger with each successive generation of practicioners. Over time, over many generations, practices based on spurious correlations become less. Practices with some causal power increase. Over 100's of generations, the probability of some sustained cultural practice being a fluke, a random outcome, a spurious correlation), becomes smaller. And over 100's of generations, I presume many variations of rituals, customs, practices etc were tweaked and outcomes observed. More successful variations were sustained, others dropped off. Edison said he never failed when attempting to develop a new technology, but he did find 10,000 things that did not work. The process of evolution advantage might be viewed in similar vein. 1000's of variations of ritual, practices, customs were conducted, over 100's of generations. Many were found to not work and were discarded, and the few success stories were kept and passed on to subsequent generations. These successful practices provided an evolutionary advantage to these particular groups, families, villages, tribes or networks. They tended to succeed and flourish while others, not using that particular practice, ritual, custom did less so, or eventually fizzled out. Someone once quipped God [or Nature] created Karma and then retired. An alternative hypothesis is that God [Nature] created Evolutionary Advantage and and then retired. (Outside the box, perhaps karma is a tool of evolutionary advantage, or vv.) Reply Delete
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult
What else are you going to do if there are no jobs for everyone? Trot people out to a gravel pit and shoot them? Dubya said we seniors would have to work until we dropped dead. I asked doing what? On 10/11/2014 03:21 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Fascinating experiment. I hope it works out. Giving people a guaranteed, modest allowance should *not* be regarded as a charitable handout. On the contrary, it's a way of emphasising that all of us who are members of a society should be granted some share in that society's wealth as we all are (or should-be) co-inheritors of the capital that our nation has built up over its history. If people then feel that we really are all in this together it has to encourage a shared sense of community - with both the rights *and* obligations (important!) that naturally flow from that sense.
