Re: [Gimp-user] templates
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Paul Le Grice plegr...@gmail.com wrote: I am new to Gimp and want to use it to create individual body maps of skin lesions by drawing on a body part template and pasting to patient notes. However, when I save a body map as a template, I can't seem to access it again to modify. Am I overlooking something? thanks Yes. A template currently isn't a full image, just the basic characteristics like Width, Height, and (possibly, don't remember for sure) Fill . Until such time as full XCF templates are implemented, I suggest instead making the base body map, copying the XCF you just made, and finally creating a custom launcher which passes the path of that XCF to GIMP. Then every time you needed to create a new record, use that launcher. That way you would immediately have that base XCF loaded, ready to make a modified version from, each time you start GIMP. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Working with imported images and layers
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Fred J fokju...@gmail.com wrote: ** This, besides the text tool, is probably one of the most unintuitive features in Gimp. - Find an image on Google / hard drive. - Drop it into your working area. - Change it's transparency. - Resize / Rotate and, suddenly, the transparency reverts to original state. This last step makes no sense. I changed its transparency for a reason and it must stay that way until I say so. And it does stay that way. Currently, we have an opacity control in the transform dialog. This defaults to 100% IIRC. It only effects the *display* during transform. The opacity setting of the layer is unaffected, it's simply not in operation during that time. (There are various logical problems with using the layer's opacity during transforms... eg, transforming part of a layer - overlapping parts are inaccurate, and non-overlapping parts may be inaccurate if the layer has no alpha channel. Same applies to transforming a whole layer.. because the original is not, and must not be, hidden during the transform, inheriting the layer opacity causes problems with the accuracy of the display) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Why is 16/32bpp taking so long?
Some points: * These are not forums. This is a mailing list. Accessing it through the unofficial gimpusers.com 'forum interface' doesn't change that fact. * The official GIMP site has problems, mainly to do with lacking a maintainer. It tends to be only updated on releases and other major events like Google Summer Of Code. So it's often not up to date with any more minor information. * GIMP developers are fairly committed to doing this the right way, rather than the simple/buggy way. What does this mean? Well, for example, Photoshop is still yet to properly support high bit depth (16/32bpc) images -- instead it provides a small subset of operations. Most other image manipulation apps I've tried, this is also true for. This is by way of saying... * Supporting multiple image types in a generic, non hacky way is a HARD problem (mainly because of all the existing code that is built around obsolete assumptions). One of the Michael's has been developing a testing system, which as it matures will allow code to be upgraded more aggressively (because it will provide a way to determine, automatically, whether said code is still behaving *correctly*). There is also a GSOC project currently underway to port some of the default set of GIMP plugins to the GEGL architecture * There are not very many active GIMP or GEGL developers. So, in a real sense, it's because YOU (for whatever value of you) are not progressing the development of GIMP and/ or GEGL. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Downloading and Loading Gimp
I've managed to build gimp from source on a mac 10.6.6. The instructions at http://clockwork.fr/how-to-compile-gimp-271-on-snow-leopard/ were mostly correct for me. I have to reinstall macport and install git. (FYI, the git package does not create the git script in the usual path, so you have to add a sym link after the install.) I also have to install gettext form source because macport refused to upgrade it to the version needed. The autogen line for the gegl line was not quite right. I think it should be ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gimp-2.7 --disable-gtk-doc --disable-docs or something like that. I think I have to add that to gimp's autogen as well. After gimp finished building, it is a binart in /opt/gimp-2.7/bin. You have to start up xdarwin then run gimp using the terminal command gimp-2.7 --display=:0.0. Hope this helps others. On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 6:46 PM, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Joseph D. Valley joseph.val...@gmail.com wrote: Problem: Gimp will not open Solution: Gimp opens Here's my machine and os: MacBook Pro OS X 10.6.6 Here's what I have done so far. 1. Downloaded Gimp: GIMP-2.6.11-Snow-Leopard.dmg 2. Downloaded XQuartz-2.6.0.dmg 3. Inserted Mac startup disks and installed X11 per instructions from http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-YU1eU36wZAJ:darwingimp.sourceforge.net/guides/install_leopard/+problems+with+gimp+osxcd=2hl=enct=clnkgl=ussource=www.google.com Here's what happens when I open gimp: 1. X11 opens 2. Nothing I've had a similar problem. Since I'm not sure if this list accepts attachments, I won't attach an example of the crash log in Library/Logs/CrashReporter. The basic idea seems to be that GIMP cannot find X11: Dyld Error Message: Library not loaded: /usr/X11/lib/libXrender.1.dylib Referenced from: /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gimp-2.6 Reason: image not found Binary Images: 0x7fff5fc0 - 0x7fff5fc3bdef dyld 132.1 (???) B536F2F1-9DF1-3B6C-1C2C-9075EA219A06 /usr/lib/dyld System Profile: Model: MacPro4,1, BootROM MP41.0081.B08, 8 processors, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 2.26 GHz, 16 GB, SMC 1.39f5 Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4870, ATI Radeon HD 4870, PCIe, 512 MB On the other hand, I have an imac, also running 10.6.6, which runs GIMP just fine. What might I do to successfully open Gimp? Kindly, Joe Valley ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Downloading and Loading Gimp
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Joseph D. Valley joseph.val...@gmail.com wrote: Problem: Gimp will not open Solution: Gimp opens Here's my machine and os: MacBook Pro OS X 10.6.6 Here's what I have done so far. 1. Downloaded Gimp: GIMP-2.6.11-Snow-Leopard.dmg 2. Downloaded XQuartz-2.6.0.dmg 3. Inserted Mac startup disks and installed X11 per instructions from http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:-YU1eU36wZAJ:darwingimp.sourceforge.net/guides/install_leopard/+problems+with+gimp+osxcd=2hl=enct=clnkgl=ussource=www.google.com Here's what happens when I open gimp: 1. X11 opens 2. Nothing I've had a similar problem. Since I'm not sure if this list accepts attachments, I won't attach an example of the crash log in Library/Logs/CrashReporter. The basic idea seems to be that GIMP cannot find X11: Dyld Error Message: Library not loaded: /usr/X11/lib/libXrender.1.dylib Referenced from: /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gimp-2.6 Reason: image not found Binary Images: 0x7fff5fc0 - 0x7fff5fc3bdef dyld 132.1 (???) B536F2F1-9DF1-3B6C-1C2C-9075EA219A06 /usr/lib/dyld System Profile: Model: MacPro4,1, BootROM MP41.0081.B08, 8 processors, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 2.26 GHz, 16 GB, SMC 1.39f5 Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4870, ATI Radeon HD 4870, PCIe, 512 MB On the other hand, I have an imac, also running 10.6.6, which runs GIMP just fine. What might I do to successfully open Gimp? Kindly, Joe Valley ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Stacking images
A common technique in astronomical photography is to combine a number of images, taken around the same time, which results in a target image with added clarity. This is called stacking and there exists specialised software to do this. Does Gimp have the functionality required to do this? Is anyone using Gimp for this purpose? If so can you please outline the steps taken? David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Stacking images
Thanks. This looks like it may be what I'm looking for. David On 16 February 2011 19:39, Rob Antonishen rob.antonis...@gmail.com wrote: Check out this page for a set of astronomy tools for gimp. Never used them, but I recalled seeing them http://hennigbuam.de/georg/gimp.html -Rob A ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] wavelet sharpen - cannot find it in 2.6
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:06 PM, Carusoswi for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
. . . so, I'm running Gimp as installed from the ubuntu repositories (Ubuntu
version 10.10), and I was reading up on the most useful of Gimp plugins, and
I came upon thie wavelet sharpen plugin. Sounds great. The text tells me
which lib file to install from the Ubuntu Synaptic listing, and I find that
this lib file is already installed.
Following the instructions, I look for this plugin under Filters- Enhance -
and . . . well, I cannot find it. I find wavelet denoise, but not wavelet
sharpen.
Hi Carusoswi,
I suggest you learn to use the Plug-in browser ('Help-Plugin browser'
in the image menu.).. it can help you to find out a number of details
about any given plugin (including, by implication, whether a given
plugin is NOT installed). Try putting in 'wavelet' as a search term;
this will find all the wavelet related plugins.
Personally (I'm running Arch Linux), the distro I am running does not
have a wavelet-sharpen package. I have the denoise and decompose
plugins installed, only, with regard to wavelet stuff.
I'm now downloading the latest wavelet-sharpen plugin from
http://registry.gimp.org/node/9836 ,compiling, and installing it.
Okay, it should show up under Filters-Enhance once you have
successfully installed it.
It works fine for me when I manually install it, so I suspect that either:
a) the Ubuntu package is defective
or
b) you haven't actually installed the right package.
My father runs an ubuntu system, so I checked out the package listings there.
From what I can see, there is no wavelet sharpen package in the
standard repositories.
What package are you talking about?
David
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Re: [Gimp-user] commercial use
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Matthew Corrie Wade mr.ograp...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. I would like to be able to use Gimp to alter designs for commercial use - is this allowed? Thanks for your time. -- Matthew Corrie Wade Seducing the Count Breathing Geometry Dance www.seducingthecount.com 0401096079 Hi, the license of GIMP (GPL) makes no comment on works created via use of the software, so it is unrestricted. The term derivative works in the GPL has confused some people at various times -- it means a derived software, though, not any manner of thing which is created *by* the software. For example, there are commercial software packages for Linux compiled with GCC; The compilation result is 'program output', not a derivative work. Hope that clarifies things. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp not Recognizing Tablet SOLVED?
On Friday 07 January 2011, Ofnuts wrote: On 01/02/2011 08:11 AM, sacrificed4ha...@aol.com wrote: I tried to install my wacom tablet into the Gimp program, but nothing happened. In Gimp, I went under Preferences, went to Input Devices and clicked on Configure Extended Input Devices. A pop-up came up and said No Extended Input Devices. I checked the current Input Controllers to see if the tablet was already listed there, but it wasn't. ---snip Solution: I added DirectX DirectInput [in devicerc] as active controller in the input controllers section of input devices. After a restart Gimp was able to recognize my Wacom-device. Hi Ofnuts, I was just going through my mail and trying to figure out if I could offer some assistance. Only after re-reading a few of the mails on the list did I realize you had solved your issue... I added solved to the subject line so that if another user searches the archives with this problem they will find your solution more easily. If I am incorrect and you are still having problems try posting a bit more information see ya dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Merging n everything
GIMP-GAP plugin does what you want. 1. Convert your text into a GAP animation, 2. Convert your background into a gap animation (duplicate that single frame 69 or however many times -- you can do the whole thing in a few clicks using Video-Duplicate frames) 3. Use GAP's navigator to move to the first frame of both animations (they must both be open in GIMP) 3. Use Video-Move Path, on the 'background' animation. Set the 'from frame..to frame' parameters to cover the entire number of frames and select the text image as source. Depending on whether the dimensions of your text animation match the background, you may also want to adjust the X and Y offsets. For animations of any complexity, I recommend you use GIMP-GAP. The facilities built in to GIMP are really quite basic. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:11 AM, rainman400 for...@gimpusers.com wrote: ok now heres the deal .. i do knw a tediously long and tiring way to fix this but i was hoping there would be an easier way i have a background image around with i want to add an animated flaming text and a video which i converted to frames already. I have about 70 frames that i want to add, so i made a animated text that lasts 70 frames too... i just thought it was the logical thing to do ... now the way i know around it is to actually manually copy and paste each layer of the xcf i got from saving the animated text onto the each layer in a new xcf with the main background.. but for 70 odd frames that gonna be a pain. and i was thinking it would probably work with the frames i got from the video as well... so is there an easier way out .. im sure there is ... coz i opened the text xcf using open as layers... but dont knw how to merge the whole thing. thanks in advance -- rainman400 (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Why doesn't drawable area follow the dimensions of a layer?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Lambertus for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Hello David and thank you for the quick reply! Now, using the word Canvas rather than Drawable area makes things a lot more sane immediately, and your explanation is accurate and acceptable. Maybe this is the same situation I have. I have a picture (picture 1). I expand the size of the canvas to make room to copy another picture beside the original (picture 2). Picture 2 is copied from an open GIMP image and pasted into the enlarged canvas area of picture 1. Picture 2 is invisible if it dragged outside the bounds of picture 1 into an open area of the canvas. I can't figure out why that would be a useful design characteristic and how to change the situation to make the imported pictures visible on the expanded canvas. You don't want the image dimensions to change constantly, right? that would FUBAR your export consistency, which is pretty important for aligning features (eg in a website layout). That's why. As for a solution, positioning the layer where you want and using 'fit canvas to layers' should solve it. Alternatively you can directly resize the image canvas. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Mikethedj4's Self Introduction
On Saturday 04 December 2010, Greg Chapman wrote: Hi David, -snip--- (Though I might have used the word, blunt, rather than heavy handed :-) ) Blunt it shall be then ;-) see ya dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Help with image alterations
Hello List - I recently downloaded the GIMP2.6 and have been playing with it in an attempt to modify some existing pictures and generally play with the outcome. Kind of like Mr. Potato Head (hopefully you know what that is) , I am trying to take a part of one picture, say the nose, and transpose it to another picture; or perhaps the lips, eyes, etc. Once I have one aspect copied on the other picture I get stuck making it happen, both in context and melding of image sizes and a “seamless” transition. Could you refer me to the right tutorial, or provide me a facile method to perform this feature using GIMP? Also, how do you rectify the image size so that if the pictures are of different sizes the transposed part looks of appropriate dimension to the host picture. I very much appreciate your time and any input you might afford me. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Linux distros with GIMP 2.6.10 preinstalled?
On Thursday 07 October 2010, Gino D wrote: On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Mike_tn for...@gimpusers.com wrote: One More Distro! Linux Mint 9 has GIMP in the Live CD Good to know. So far, I wrongly thought that Mint Live CD, for the reason of being Ubuntu-based, would be devoid of GIMP. Mike_tn, since you seem to be very knowledgeable about the content of various Linux distros, by chance do you know whether Mandriva and OpenSUSE nowadays hold the latest stable version of GIMP or not? http://distrowatch.com/ Choose the distro you are interested in, 1/2 way down the page, the far left column shows the most recent version of a tracked package, (lots of packages are followed), the other columns show what version of the program shipped with which version of the distro most major distrows provide fairly up to date versions of major programs via their package management systems. I am using GIMP 2.6.11 on opensuse 11.3. It is also not terribly dificult to compile gimp from source. see ya, dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6's Clipboard Brush - disable possible?
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:13 PM, SilversleevesX silversleev...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. This is my first post to the list. I wanted to know if it were possible to disable the Clipboard Brush feature in GIMP 2.6? Frankly, I think a better direction for something copied or cut to the Clipboard would be to Patterns, not Brushes. As a longtime Photoshop user (4 versions on Mac OS, two on Windows), I've no doubt that the minor hassle of turning tweensy picture X.jpeg into a pattern will be something I'll remember to my dying day. If an intuitive shortcut should be applied to clipboard/pasteboard data in a graphics app, patterns seem to me the more useful of the two directions. Well, you have both. What's the problem? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] batch script help
anything on the gimp front? Google gimp batch process. Five of the first six hits point to David's Batch Processor plugin. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Increasing pixel size
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Andrew and...@alangdondavies.es wrote: On 07/25/2010 03:49 AM, Byram wrote: I have an old 7 mp image that I'm trying to increase to around 10MP. I've read it's best to increase by 10%, then unsharpen, and repeat process until you get to the desired result. I unsharpened with radius at 5, threshold 15, and amount .5. When I finished the process. I viewed the image at 100% and it was terrible. Any recommendations regarding the process or the unsharpened mask settings? Thanks. I have tried Resynthesizer 'smart enlarge' and found it lacking. GMIC 'smart resize' is much, much better.. I am VERY happy with it. (smart resize is found in Enhancement subsection in GMIC plugin) Just work out the percentage difference between the old size and new size (in this case i suspect 3648 / 3056 == 119%.. or ) and input that in the width and height fields (including the % sign) I recommend anisotropy 1.0. Smoothing should be = the scaling ratio (so, = 1.19 in this example). Sharpness is something you will just need to experiment with to get the kind of results you want: 12 is a good starting point IMO) Note that it is fairly slow for large images, so try it on a small crop first. :) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Making Source Code Available
On Friday 23 July 2010, wal...@12on14.com wrote: I am writing a user book on GIMP, and in conjunction with making available several excerpts (tutorials), I put GIMP 2.6.8 for windows on my site, along with the users manual, and related Python files. I would like to comply with the GPL snip-- Can someone help? Is there an easier way to comply? Or, am I reading the wrong license terms? OK I've read your mail and the other responses so far. If I understand it you are writing a book and you want to distribute the GIMP program with it (probably on CD). I am not a lawyer but what is wrong with just supplying the source archives (.tar.gz, .bz, etc) on the same CD. As far as I can see this would alleviate your need to maintain a web server to provide the source code. You would need to include the source archive for each version of GIMP included on the CD (Windows, BSD, Mac, Linux, QNX, etc) as well as source for any other GPL programs you include. These archives are available wherever it is that YOU get the programs from. (Assuming the sites are in compliance w/ the GPL). The GPL also requires the use of the COPYING file, you may want to include this in the root directory of the CD/DVD My understanding is that, while the GPL does stipulate making the source code available, there is some leeway in how you make it available. I believe you could even publish the actual code in your book if you desired,and be in compliance with the license. (Of course this would probably require more pages than your whole book) If you are distributing tutorial files and examples then you need to comply with the associated licenses for those files as well (CC, Artistic, BSD, etc) If I am wrong about any of this then I am sure a more knowledgeable source than I will jump in and correct me. see ya dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:05 AM, Marc Carson m...@marccarson.com wrote: I've been scanning inks into GIMP, then moving them over to Inkscape for tracing to make the lines smoother. Is there a way to do this in GIMP alone? I don't mean vector tracing, just getting rid of the smaller abnormalities or fuzziness around my inked lines. I already scan at 600 dpi. Here's an example: http://www.friendlyskies.net/projects/comics/before-after.png Thanks! Yes, you may want a combination of 1. Despeckle (to eliminate specks) 2. GMIC Anisotropic Smoothing (GMIC plugin:gmic.sf.net) with a relatively large radius, large tensor-smoothing value, and anisotropy = 1.0. Experiment with different values of 'sharpness' -- you may need to reduce it below the default 0.70 to get as much smoothing as you want. Another solution: If you are running linux, you will probably have the tools to make a batch-processing script or Python GIMP plugin that uses PoTrace (commandline tool;same algorithym as is integrated into Inkscape). Potrace has options to output a PGM (ie a greyscale raster, rather than a vector -- like SVG etc) to do tracing/smoothing. This could be the fastest and most reliable, high quality option, once you have worked out the options appropriate for your work. The most important options for Potrace would probably be --alphamax N #how smooth the output is. 0..1.43, default 1.0. --blacklevel N #the black/white threshold -- in the range 0..1. --turdsize N #this discards junk pixels -- pixel islands of N size --pgm #set output format to PGM raster, or.. --svg #you could get an SVG -- if you wanted a larger output than input. --width N --height N # set output dimensions Hope one of those suggestions help. :) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Why doesn't drawable area follow the dimensions of a layer?
Hello Janne, On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Janne Kronback faultygear...@gmail.com wrote: I used GIMP yesterday after a break of a few months and spend the first hour being frustrated. Part of it was because I was using a Swedish version which I haven't tried before, so all the names were strange at first... Anyhow, the manual (chapter 8) says nothing about the issue I had. I copied a part of the image as a new layer which I was to tile to get a bigger surface. I naturally resized the layer x*y times to make room for it (I know there are tools to do this, they did however not give me the result I was after). In this situation, I usually adjust the canvas size and select the option which adjusts all layer sizes accordingly. I was then to copy that piece of texture again and paste it into the same layer and move it to the correct position repeatedly when the strange thing happened.. The texture just disappeared into nothingness the moment it was slid out of the border of the original texture! Even though the layer boundaries was resized, I could not use it. You could. It just looked like it was not being pasted. That's an illusion created by the combination of your method and GIMP's treatment of layer content outside canvas bounds. The manual explicitly says: Note: he amount of memory that a layer consumes is determined by its dimensions, not its contents. So, if you are working with large images or images that contain many layers, it might pay off to trim layers to the minimum possible size. Why did I resize the layer, consume more memory but wasn't allowed to use it until I, in another menu, chose expand drawable area to the boundaries of the layer (in swedish). You will not be able to see anything outside of the bounds of the *image*; I expect the menu item that you were looking at was the same as the english item Fit Canvas to Layers. The canvas is the boundary size of the image (and it is usually what you will find you want to really adjust, rather than layer boundary size) This doesn't feel like it should be the default behaviour. Out of curiosity, why would you want to expand a layer that you cannot draw on? I suspect you want to reword that question, as there is no such thing as a layer which you actually cannot draw on (except by explicitly indicating you want that, using the 'lock pixels' or 'lock alpha' toggles). It's perfectly possible to set things up so you are likely to THINK you cannot draw on a layer as it's not visible; but such thoughts are inaccurate, you can draw, paste, etc on it just the same as any other layer; the layer just is not visible until you move your layer back within canvas bounds Hope that helps, David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A sequence of actions
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 14:07 -0400, Jay Smith wrote: Question: Has somebody written a generic large script or set of scripts or library of script components that would allow an ordinary user with only the most basic programming skills to grab the bits they need for their particular sequence of actions? Something that a basic user could edit down to what they need or cut/paste out the bits they need? Not quite what you were asking, but DBP is a plugin designed to provide the most common operations for batch processing (without scripting). It's limited in its operations (by design and lack of spare time), but many people find it useful. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Edit Zoom ratios?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Mark for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I do a lot of picture rendering and find myself zooming images to ratios of 3:1 and 6:1 (300% and 600%, respectively) for a majority of jobs. Can these be added to the popup menu at the bottom of the window instead of having to manually enter these values each time via View Zoom Other? Thank you very much. For 300%, isn't it easier just to hit 2, +? In any case, while it would be a good enhancement to be able to customize zooming, you should not *need* to use View-Zoom-Other. Just highlight the first character in the popup (assuming the popup says something like '800%'), type 6, hit Enter. No dialog required. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] The Gimp is BIG now
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 6:34 AM, JamesGreen for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I used Gimp back when it first came out and I use to know my way around it pretty well. Not anymore! I just got Gimp 2.6.8 and OMG...it has like 100x the feature set of the original! I'm lost and can't make it work. :( So, I thought that if I explain what I need to do maybe some of you could point me in the right direction. I'm trying to create an icon for my guild in an MMO. The icon must be exactly 20x20 pixels and no more than 57k bytes total. Easy enough. I want to use the head of an digital image I found, cut it out, create a mirror of it, then rotate it 45 degrees (so that I can get the largest image of the head as possible), and then paste it onto a 200x200 pink (255 R/0 G/ 255B) canvas. I will then reduce the image down to 20x20 and import it into the game. The pink layer will be transparent in the final in-game product. I think I can figure out how to rotate the 2nd, head, layer without disturbing the pink layer...But I'm having problems with creating the mirror image. Where is the mirror function in the menus? Is there a mirror function in Gimp? You probably want one of the two 'flip' items in Image-Transform menu. Or if you want to just mirror a single layer, Layer-Transform menu ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ?? Status of remembering Layers setting for Canvas Resizing -- in most recent version
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: If this issue has not been addressed yet and if I can't find anything in Bugzilla on it, I want to make an Enhancement Suggestion, first on the Gimp-Developer list, then Bugzilla. However, I don't have the quick or convenient ability to check the current status of this issue in the most recent Gimp version. (I am a user only and am not involved in installing such programs.) I am hoping that somebody who has the most recent version can check this for me. Thanks in advance. Image Canvas Size in the Set Image Canvas Size dialog in the Layers section at the bottom there are five different possible settings, including None, All Layers, etc. etc. In Gimp 2.6.6 (Ubuntu Linux 8.04) this defaults to None and ALWAYS remains none EVERY time I go to the dialog, even if I had it changed to something else on this image or a previous image. I believe that this setting should be remembered a) during the session of editing an image; b) during all sessions editing all images; and c) between sessions of shutting down and restarting Gimp. +1 on this; It jars me momentarily every time I open this dialog and the setting is stuck to None instead of what I last selected. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Is there a preference setting for this?
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:57 AM, li...@saylor3d.com li...@saylor3d.com wrote: Currently using Gimp 2.6.6 on Ubuntu 9.04. Until my latest upgrade, I was able select two images with my file viewer and then drag and drop these two image into gimp and get one window with each image as a separate layer. Now when I do this, gimp opens two windows with one image in each window. It sounds like what has changed is what you do. The first description sounds like what would happen if you first opened the first image, then dropped the other image onto it. To be clear, you would drop one image onto the depiction of Wilbur, then drop the other onto the image window which has now appeared. The second sounds like what would happen if you opened them each separately. That is, dropping first one image, then the other onto Wilbur (in the toolbox) Hope that helps. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Moving images from point a to b animated
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Burnie West w...@ieee.org wrote: On 02/19/2010 11:05 PM, Scott wrote: I don't see animation. Seems like the animation you've attempted should appear in the header1 image; but that's a jpg but not a gif. Well it is my first atempt and I just did what the forum post that I was going off of in a search said to do. Looked for a good tutorial for it but couldn't find one. Yes the train now that I think about it was a jpg. I just took one layer out of an exsisting animation and made my own and saved as a gif. Any links to a good tutorials for this? I looked at a couple of tutorials for it, and they don't exactly seem to address your questions very well. They tend to be overly simplified, or assume too much background knowledge. WARNING: very wordy post (but I don't know how to help otherwise). Basically, you need to create a layer for each animation frame. Then you need to organize the layers in the animation sequence. Then you need to schedule them. Or you use GIMP-GAP, which is designed for this kind of thing and has the 'Move path' tool to do pretty much everything except extracting the train :) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can I Subtract a color overall?
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:05 AM, John Mills johnmi...@speakeasy.net wrote: Thanks to Stefan, Dan, and David for your replies. I'll look into all three approaches, but this looks most directly like what I had in mind. My limited intuition seemed to suggest that since RGB is an additive color space, there might be a direct way to subtract a cast out of it. If what I provided is not satisfactory, you might want to try the inverse transformation (in which the values go in the 'output maximum' field instead of the 'input maximum' field.).I do think that the inverse transformation is better for previewing how a given picture will look on the colored paper than actually preparing it for print. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can I Subtract a color overall?
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, John Mills johnmi...@speakeasy.net wrote: All - I don't know if this makes conceptual sense, but ... I am printing a scanned image onto a slightly toned surface (heavy watercolor paper), and I would like to precompensate somewhat for the effect of printing onto this warm toned medium. How can I correct the image before printing to approach the same colors as a print on white paper, at least in the darker areas? I suggest trying this: 1. Create an image full of the color of the paper. 2. Look at the RGB values of the color you chose (my test color was 244, 242, 219) 3. Open up the 'Levels' tool. select Red channel, type the appropriate value (eg 244) in the rightmost field under the 'input levels' histogram+gradient. select green, type appropriate value (eg 242), select blue, type appropriate value (219), OK. 4. The canvas should now be completely white #FF / 255, 255, 255, and you should have an appropriate Levels preset stored to apply to your pictures; you may want to save the preset permanently with the '+' button next to the preset selector (after first selecting it) Note: This method will clip out detail of colors that are as bright or brighter than the real paper color. This is basically unavoidable according to your description of the problem. HTH, David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp _scripts_ in languages other than scheme?
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Arian Sanusi ar...@sanusi.de wrote: Owen schrieb: Hi, Is it possible to have gimp _scripts_ (not plug-ins) in other languages than scheme? Python p.ex.? When I place a python script in ~/.gimp-2.6/scripts the function is not accessible from the scheme interpreter. And I despair on scheme :S I think there may be some semantics with plug-ins and scripts, My view is that if it is written in a scrioting language, then it is a script. Just put them in your ~/gimp-2.6/plug-ins directory and make sure they are made executable. I apologize, I omitted to state that I am referring to Python scripts. Just make sure your gimp was compiled with python (should be) yes, it is, and python plug-ins do work, they appear in PDB and the menus. What's not working for me is putting a script in the scripts directory and invoke that functions from cli. Something like $ gimp -i -b '(python-fu-curve-ext seagull_copy.jpg)' -b (gimp-quit 0) fails (from the interactive interpreter I get variable undefined) and i couldn't find anything on this on the net. That's because it's wrong usage. scripts/ dir holds Script-Fu scripts; that is the *only* kind of script it holds. Putting other types of script in there is not intended to work in any meaningful sense, nor does it. In case it is not already clear, there is no functional difference between a Python script (aka Python plugin) and a Script-fu script. Both can register any number of PDB functions which are then usable from any PDB-enabled interface (eg Script-Fu, Python, Ruby, Lua, Perl,...) Your python plugins/scripts should all go in the plugins directory. Anyway, if you are working with Python, consider using the Python console instead of the Script-fu console; it's at Filters-Python-Fu-Console in the menus. You might also be interested in the 'python-fu-eval' function, which is useful for batch work. You can specify python-fu-eval as the batch interpreter (--batch-interpreter python-fu-eval), and then -b arguments will be treated as Python code to execute rather than Script-Fu code to execute. I personally think this is much more comfortable way to do batch scripting. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Quick copy-pasting between Inkscape and GIMP
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Gino D ginodo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I understand that this could just as well have been posted on the Inkscape mailing list (if there is any) but I'm only a subscriber to this one, so here goes nothing. I'm looking for a faster way to copy-paste things from Inkscape into GIMP. My current procedure involves exporting the drawing from Inkscape to PNG, then opening the PNG in GIMP and copy-pasting it into the image I want to have it in. Is there any faster way? I've just noticed that, when you paste into GIMP any shape copied from Inkscape, such object is appended as new path rather than as new layer, and there seems to be no other possibility. However, once you exported an Inkscape object as a PNG file, a faster way to import this into a GIMP image is to select the special command ' File - Open as Layers ' , through which you will be able to insert the PNG file as new layer along with its handy transparent background. You should also be able to open the SVG file directly rather than first exporting a PNG with that same 'Open as Layers' command. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Re: GIMP vs Photoshop
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Programmer In Training p...@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us wrote: On 1/19/2010 6:43 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On 1/20/10, Programmer In Training wrote: itch I am scratching: I run Linux but hate to manage windows and/or workspaces, and single-window mode will fix this for me. I absolutely /hate/ the single window mode. You don't have to like single image node either. It'll be optional. So the next update will see the ability to revert back to the old behavior? That will be nice. (: What version are you using? GIT HEAD (dd8b867852efccc00eda94244ef1f27dc1a145b7 as of this writing) already has this option working, I just checked. I think commit db2221c97d0532b2a558ba44fb80f2b4e39c2c0a (25 or so commits earlier) was the first commit in which this switching was non-buggy, but don't quote me on that. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 8 bit png warning / enhancement
On Tue, 2010-01-19 at 10:34 +0100, M.W. wrote: I wanted to ask if it were possible to add some kind of warning to the png export settings that pngs are only saved as 8 bit png. It is not obvious that saving as (lossless) png causes loss when using Gimp, because the input was 16 bit greyscale and the output ends up with 8 bit greyscale. This has nothing to do with exporting png files. The conversion happens when you open the file - all images in Gimp are only 8 bits per channel. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] JPG file size increases with saving
On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 13:32 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au wrote: - when the JPG is uncompressed by GIMP into RAM, there is no loss of information (?) Since JPG is not lossless, there is always a loss of information. Or more specifically the same JPG can be interpreted differently by different software, so opening it in GIMP might look different than another program perhaps. I'm fairly sure this is not true - there is only one way to uncompress a JPG file, so all programs should create the same uncompressed version. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Frank Gore g...@projectpontiac.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: We don't know if their formats are crazy. But they certainly appear to be undocumented. Until they are documented, or someone reverse-engineers them, we are unlikely to gain support for them in open-source software. (OTOH, it could just be attached in the metadata. EXIF / IPTC support is not complete yet.) ok... but why is Gimp assuming sRGB? Even if the color profile is attached in some bizarre non-standard manner, Gimp should detect NO color profile and ask me about it when I open the file. Isn't that how it's supposed to work? That's what other applications do, for example Digikam/showFoto. Don't you think that would be very tiresome? Most images have no ICC profile attached; in this case, sRGB is indeed implied. Producing images that are not sRGB but have no ICC profile attached is wrong (more precisely, it's a miscommunication, saying that the image is sRGB when it's not. ). I appreciate your situation of needing to correct the profile here, OTOH, have you considered using tools like imagemagick and jpegicc to detect the camera it came from and then attach an appropriate profile. this would allow you to assign profiles automatically in large batches. IMO this is much less painful all around. BTW, I just checked the exif information on those JPEGs and both have no EXIF information. So it does look indeed like the profile data is stored in some custom format; there may even be no profile per se stored, just a reference to or description of one. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Frank Gore g...@projectpontiac.com wrote: I've been pulling my hair out trying to figure out color management in Gimp. In the preferences, I clearly have File Open Behaviour set to Ask what to do. My working profile is sRGB, and so is my Monitor profile. I have Display rendering intent set to Relative colorimetric. Yet, everytime I open an image, Gimp never asks me what to do about the color profile. It always assumes sRGB, even if the embedded color profile is Adobe RGB or ProPhoto or whatever else. I always have to manually assign the right color profile after the file has been opened. Further, when I go to assign a color profile, I have to know in advance what the profile of that image was. Gimp doesn't tell me. It lets me change to whatever profile I want, but it won't let me know which one is embedded in the image. Also.. does that mean that you go to the 'Color profile' section of Image Properties and it says nothing / is blank? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Color Management Woes
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Frank Gore g...@projectpontiac.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Frank Gore g...@projectpontiac.com wrote: As I mentioned, all the commercial applications I've tried had no problems determining the appropriate color space for these files. It's only open source tools that are unable to, including Gimp. So is this a bug? Or is Pentax really that crazy with their file formats? They can't be that crazy if commercial applications have no trouble with the files. That's a fallacy, I'm afraid. We don't know if their formats are crazy. But they certainly appear to be undocumented. Until they are documented, or someone reverse-engineers them, we are unlikely to gain support for them in open-source software. (OTOH, it could just be attached in the metadata. EXIF / IPTC support is not complete yet.) Someone mentioned I should perhaps post examples of these files, and that's a fine idea. Wish I'd thought of it sooner. These were taken at seriously-reduced megapixels in the interest of file size. I figured the file format was more important than the quality of the picture. Here's one straight from my K-7, in Adobe RGB: http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Wc8Lq42A20qRxDoTj1dNRQ?feat=directlink And here's another one in sRGB, taken immediately after the above: http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/c7_78WNLRXvEgHnmb6QM4g?feat=directlink These could be quite helpful if someone is inclined to reverse engineer it to spot the difference ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP and transparency
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Rick Duley rickdu...@gmail.com wrote: I've been poking around manuals and such in GIMP but I cannot find the magic word. I'm not a computer graphics geek - not by any standards - so I just refer to the functionality I need as transparency. I need a GIF file with a transparent background. I assume GIMP can handle it, but would someone please tell me where the necessary information to do so is cloistered, Thanks Owen's information is unrelated to what you want, assuming you mean total transparency. (if you mean partial transparency, GIF doesn't support it -- PNG does, though) First, The layer must have an alpha channel. Right click on the layer in the layers dialog and select 'add alpha channel'. If it's grayed out, it already has an alpha channel. Second, you must cut out the areas you want to be transparent. If you are trying to do color-keying, the 'select by color' tool will probably be helpful (followed by Edit-Clear to clear the area) You can then export a GIF (or save one, depending on whether you are using a new or old version of GIMP) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] python script for rectangle selection
On Sat, 2010-01-02 at 18:50 +0100, Fab wrote: Hi, I am new to gimp's scripting and would like to automate the rectangle selection tool by defining the position and size using a script. Afterwards, I would like to extract the selection, 'paste as new image' and save the image as a png file without compression. You should be able to do this using David's Batch Processor. It will let you define a fixed region to crop from an image and save as png, then apply that to multiple images. No scripting necessary. Google DBP. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Image - Flatten Image not available on newly created image with pasted in layer (floating selection)
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: GIMP 2.6.6 running on Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Linux. Is this a bug? Should I post this on the developer list instead? Am I doing this incorrectly? At a minimum, I think there is some GUI confusion... at least it is not logical to my way of thinking. This is a little complicated, so please read through before jumping to assumptions. Thank you. I need to make a new image that looks the same as an existing image. The reason for this is not important but I cannot use SaveAs because there is serious ICC profile corruption (it kills the plugin that attempts to assign sRGB profile) and I actually have to copy and paste the image into a new image to get a clean image. So, for whatever inane reason, I need to make a new image with the visual contents of the old image. Here's a suggested change to your procedure Procedure: - Select all in old image - Copy - Set background color to black - Edit-Paste as-New Image - Image-Flatten Image (on the new image) (That's the end of the process.) - At this point I want to flatten the image to a single layer with no selection. However 1) Tool set to rectangular marque only acts as a Move tool. 2) Double clicking ON THE IMAGE has NO effect. 3) In the New Image process above, the window size created is the size of the image itself -- there is *NO* outside the canvas background visible. HOWEVER, if I now drag the window larger so that I do have outside the canvas background area and double click in the outside the canvas area, it DOES anchor the image whereas double clicking on the image itself does not have an effect. I can't comment on these issues as my WM doesn't inflict such issues upon me. (I'm not saying GIMP doesn't have such a bug, just that I do not suffer from the problems you describe.) * I think that is either a bug or a poorly implemented feature * * that the user is forced to drag the window larger, etc. * 4) ALTERNATIVELY, I can go to the menu and do Layer, Anchor Layer. That works just fine. *** BUT, PLEASE NOTE here it says Layer. It says nothing about anchoring a Floating Selection. There is an inconsistency in terminology. If I am working with a Floating Selection I would first think to look in the Select menu items for an action to take. Or perhaps the Image menu items (where Flatten Image is grayed out). This is an ugly artefact of the way floating selections are implemented, I think (in fact floating selections are the only type of layer that can be anchored). We are aiming to get rid of them for various reasons IIRC. There is progress towards this in 2.7. Also, you can never flatten the image when there is a floating selection. (I don't really think there's any good reason for this, but developers, feel free to correct me!) 5) Furthermore, what I think I want to do is what I would call Flatten the image. In the docs... http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-image-flatten.html it discusses the Image, Flatten Image command. That is what I think I wanted to do all along. (And in PhotoShop 5.x, that is exactly the terminology for what one would do in this case -- but I know this is Gimp, not PS.) *** HOWEVER in this scenario, Flatten Image is grayed out and unavailable. I do not know if, under the hood, making a floating selection merge into the background by anchoring a layer is all the same thing as flatten image, or if they are different tasks. Flatten image effectively performs 'merge down' repeatedly on all visible layers until only one visible layer remains, then discards invisible layers and renders the layer atop the current BG color. Anchoring a floating selection transfers its content to the underlying layer (much like Merge Down) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Recent improvements of the G'MIC project.
Hi Everyone ! It has been a long time since my latest post concerning the G'MIC project, so I would like here to give some informations on the advances of this project. I don't want to bother you with technical details, I just would like to show an overall view of the improvements. First, just a word to introduce G'MIC : it is basically an open-source framework to do generic image processing. It includes amongst other things a plug-in for the GIMP. This plug-in offers a growing list of various filters that can be applied on your images (about 150 for now), which are largely customizable. There are filters for artistic purposes, but also for image denoising and sharpening, color correction and so on... The G'MIC plug-in web-page can be found at : http://gmic.sourceforge.net/gimp.shtml There have been a lot of interesting improvement lately, and I released the 1.3.3.3 version of the G'MIC package yesterday. For the plug-in users, here are the main advantages of the new version(compared to the latest one I presented here, i.e. the 1.3.2.9) : - A high gain in computation speed. There have been important optimizations in the code, which lead to a visible speed-up of G'MIC-based computations. In previous versions, one had often to wait for seconds before the preview is updated when one changes a filter parameter for instance. Now, this has been really optimized at a point where the preview is updated in less than a second for most of thefilters. This is really really appreciable in terms of user comfort. - A 'smarter' preview : Each G'MIC filter is now able to set the most adapted zoom factor for the preview image, so that it better corresponds to the final filtered result. For some filters, the default zoom factor would correspond to the entire image (for instance, if you do global deformations on images), for other, the best zoom factor would correspond to a 1:1 pixel correspondance between the preview and the image (all the filters that do local processing, such as the smoothing filters for instance), and finally, others do not require a default zoom factor for the preview (the ones mixing color channels for instance). All this is now handled properly by the G'MIC plug-in. It is particularly interesting for denoising filters, where you can now adjust your parameters once (by looking at your preview window), and obtain the same-looking image when you finally apply the filter. This is particularly true since the preview computation is now faster than before. To me, that is one reason to abandon our previous GREYCstoration denoising filter, since it is not maintained anymore and does not have this essential feature. - I've opened a G'MIC group on the Flickr web site, to discuss about the G'MIC evolution. That's interesting since people can post G'MIC-processed images in the group image pool, and they automatically appear on the G'MIC gallery which shows all these contributions. It gives an idea of all the possible uses of this plug-in. The Flickr gallery page for the G'MIC group is located at : http://www.flickr.com/groups/gmic/pool/show/ If you have a Flickr account, do not hesitate to join the group to discuss or suggest filters for the G'MIC plug-in (or to post images in the group pool). - Finally, lot of debugging and code improvements have been done these last months, so the whole thing becomes more and more stable. Also, some new filters have been included. Well that's it. I really think that all these improvements are important evolutions of the G'MIC plug-in, for a better user experience. Let me know if you find it useful (or totally useless) Regards, David. -- David Tschumperle (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Recent improvements of the G'MIC project.
I have the previous release installed on a W7 64 with GIMP 2.6.7 and it runs well. Had some head scratching moments trying to figure out where to install everything. I've used the previous release for denoise and it seems to do a good job while still retaining detail. Am I imagining that? Or have you actually addressed that issue in your denoising filters? Well, as I said the improvements have been mainly done for the plug-in interface and speed. The denoising algorithms stay the same, but they are much more easy to use since the preview is really more accurate (so you will probably set the parameters only once), and the parameters are easier to adjust (since the preview is updating faster). -- David T. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Native Support for SVG
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Cédric Gémy radar.ma...@free.fr wrote: There is no non-sense that Inkscape supports some bitmap operations and also no nonsense that a bitmap applications support some vector possibilities simply because in many project, you simply need to mix vector and bitmap datas. a logo on a photo for example : and if the logo can be kept vector that's much better. if the photo don't need any modification, yo ucan simply load it into Inkscape (except that inkscape doesn't deal with import resolution), but in the other case, it will be more comfortable to open the vector logo in Gimp. This is certainly true. I think this level of vector support is something that will only come with a GEGL based fileformat, to make the rendering and manipulation of objects more flexible. For example, the vector-layers implementation generates pixels on a layer, which is kind of incorrect -- a vector-layer is more like a view on a particular vector object, not a layer with nominally static content. The DAG-based architecture of GEGL should allow this kind of operation to be represented in a much more sensible, and somewhat more efficient, way. Anyway, gimp works on vector layers since a long time Not exactly. Paths have been available for a long time; however vector layers were implemented by Henk Boom a year or so ago but haven't been merged into the main GIMP source tree yet. So vector layers are not yet available. way. SVG import has been improved in the last realease and will go on. Just a question : text tool is a vector tool. Would you tell gimp don't need it ? Being capable of vector operations (GIMP) is very different from being fundamentally built around vector operations (Inkscape and the SVG file format). It's not that vector operations cannot be useful to GIMP, it's simply that GIMP is orientated in the opposite direction, and because of this difference, it requires great care when deciding whether to implement further vector features. There is a description of C++ C++: an octopus made by nailing extra legs onto a dog That is the kind of risk involved when you attach things so fundamentally different to each other. I think one of the reasons that vector layers haven't been merged yet is this kind of issue -- the implementation can still seem a little hackish and awkward from the user's point of view. (of course, for all I know we'll end up using the GEGL vector renderer along with a GEGL-oriented fileformat, which may render much of the vector-layers code obsolete anyway) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to despeckle?
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 02:56 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Attached is a small fragment of a tiff file; it has a large number of speckles, which I'd like to remove. The natural tool would seem to be Despeckle, but it doesn't seem to do the job. In fact, as far as I can see, it doesn't do anything. Set image mode to RGB, Filter-despeckle-set Black level to -1 and White level to 256. Set image mode back to indexed if you like. Works fine. -- David attachment: Manhole.tif___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Brush edit problem
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Chris for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I want to create a straight line that's two pixels wide. There's a brush that's 1px, and another that's 3px, so I created a new brush, made it a square one and selected a radius of 1.0px. If I do this, the brush appears to be 3px in width. So I tried various values. 0.7px radius still gives me a brush that is 3px wide. However, 0.6px radius gives me one that is 1px wide. I don't seem to be able to find any setting that makes it 2px wide, and neither can I understand the relationship between radius and the actual size of the brush. The same thing happens with higher values - anything from 0.7 up to 1.6 gives me a brush that's 3px wide, then at 1.7 it jumps to 5 pixels. Is it impossible to have a brush that is an even number of pixels wide, and if so, why? No, but it may be impossible to have an even sized 'virtual' brush, which is the type you're editing. You may need to create a 2x2 grayscale image filled with black* and save it with a 'gbr' extension to your brushes directory.(then refresh the brushes dialog) * or is it white? one of those two. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] New stable release of the G'MIC plug-in for GIMP.
for their valuable comments on G'MIC. So, please do not hesitate to download and test the plug-in. It's really small and easy to install (at least, it is intended to be), so maybe it is worth to have it in your GIMP arsenal :) Best Regards, -- David Tschumperle (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to select whole layer and only layer
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Adam Majewski a...@albedo.art.pl wrote: Hi there! I would like to know how to make selection for whole layer and only area of layer. (should it be named layer to selection?) It is, in fact, named 'alpha to selection', in the layers dialog. (or in the layers-transparency menu) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] what happened to layer folders layer masks?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Brett for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I don't know if the developers planned it or decided to take it out. but in the earlier dev versions of gimp before the single widow mode XD, when layer folders was first introduced their was the ability to add a layer mask to that folder.. .. I know probably that it was unplanned feature because gimp treated the folders like a layers. but in the recent builds of gimp the ability to add a layer mask to the folder has been taken out taken out. *heart attack* That's because it doesn't work correctly yet. On GIMP commit df9e9e260990f827b40f9be05114897c571749a2, the log message says: Author: Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org Date: Sat Sep 5 15:37:48 2009 +0200 Disable layer masks on group layers for the time being Will enable it again when I fixed it properly, it's clearly a non-trivial problem that needs some thinking. Disabled for now because it causes crashes. In short.. using that is risky and probably doesn't work quite the way it should. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How to select whole layer and only layer
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Adam Majewski a...@albedo.art.pl wrote: Dnia Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:29:26 +1030 David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com napisał(a): I would like to know how to make selection for whole layer and only area of layer. (should it be named layer to selection?) It is, in fact, named 'alpha to selection', in the layers dialog. (or in the layers-transparency menu) almost... if i have transparency somewhere on layer then i need to make additional selection. (color selection clicked on transparency area with shift(add)) It's possible to script this. Basically, you can just 1. call gimp-drawable-offsets to find the top-left corner of the active layer 2. call gimp-drawable-height and gimp-drawable-width to get the size of the layer 3. call gimp-rect-select using the bounds you just retrieved. The procedure browser found in the help menu can help explain how these work. Once you've written the script and registered the function in the appropriate place, you can give it a keyboard shortcut using the keyboard shortcut editor. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] contribute to my cause
On Monday 05 October 2009, harold wrote: hello.. I'm creating a linux distro which is the first in my country (Dominican repolishing) but still do not have artwork, I have nothing prepared and if they can not help to create the wallpaper and boot screens like the logo . ---snip-- Happy-Word Data from the distro linuxdom.wordpress.com Nobody help me Apparently you want to create a linux distribution and are looking for help. There are alot of talented people on this list, but the list itself is not really meant for that type of discussion. It is more related to specific questions concerning gimp. I would suggest you post your question one more time. When you do, please include an e-mail address you can be reached at and perhaps a link to your web site / facebook / whatever. That way people will be able to contact and help you with out dilluting the content of this list One other thing , you might look into suse studio, or one of the other re-spin projects and see if they have something that would be useful to you Hope this Helps See ya -- dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bits per channel
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Ken Warner kwarner...@verizon.net wrote: Working with 16 bit per channel images will be great! 16 bits per channel is essential when working with high dynamic range (HDR) images. What is the timeline for 2.10/3.0? I believe you'll find that you can only get a meaningful timeline for eg. 2.10 after 2.8 is released. Looking ahead further than 'the release we are currently working towards' is unreliable, especially since all development on GIMP is done by unpaid volunteers. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.6.7 install on Centos 5.3
On Friday 25 September 2009, Greg S. wrote: This is the 3rd time I have posted this item and it has not appeared in the forum. Has anyone installed gimp 2.6.7 on Centos 5.3 or Redhat EL5. I have searched the net and there appears to be no rpm's for the above OS's. Has anyone got any ideas please. Since the universe abhors an un-answered question I'll give it a shot, As I'm sure you know both of those distributions are aimed at long term stability w/ proven applications. I've just recently installed a centos 5.3 system and believe the gimp shipped w/ it is 2.2. Having said that I'm going to suggest that the only reliable way is to build from source, and that will probably mean finding and meeting dependencies first. Very likely building them (and their dependencies) from source as well. If you use gnome as a desktop this could lead to breakage of other gnome packages. I don't think it will be really difficult (I'm guessing) but it really hinges on the dependencies. If I am right about centos shipping w/ gimp 2.2 then the gtk version in centos could give you problems (as well as gegl and babl). If you really need the newest gimp then another distribution or virtualization may be a better choice. centos 5.3 is well supported by xen, and I would guess because of its enterprise orientation vmware, virtualbox and others would also have good support ( although I am unfamiliar w/ those in respect to Centos) I have also pulled the packages from the git server. gegl, babl and gimp. need help. regards greg HTH see ya -- dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] WHat are my options, here
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote: Friends, I'm trying to figure the best way to use GIMP blend colors in a particular application. I have a topographical map, and I want to apply a color gradient which follows the contour lines of the map, and blends from a darker hue at BTW: I don't know what 'a color gradient that follows the contour lines' means, I could only guess. If my advice is not suitable for what you mean, I suggest clarifying. the lower contour to a lighter hue at the next higher contour. The contour lines are not parallel. In the final image, I want a uniform darker hue right next to the contour line, and a uniform ligher hue at the higher one. A further complication is that the contours do not have a uniform direction. In one part of the image the gradient from 10 units to 20 units will be right to left, in another part of the image going from 10 units to 20 will go from left to right, and in still others, the contour representing 20 units will be a smaller irregular shape inside the larger, different, but still irregular shape representing an elevation of 10 units. I've thought of a number of ways to do this manually, for example, divide the map into different layers at the contour lines, and using the airbrush tool to overlay the colors; another is to leave the different contour levels in one layer, and use the smudge tool to blend across the contours. But are there filters of plug-ins which might automate at least part of the process? The built in edge detection filters may help you in creating a suitable selection to apply darkening to. For the basic colorizing , I think you want the Gradient Map filter (Colors-Map-Gradient Map) Hope that helps ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] drop out background tutorial
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Bob Meetin b...@dottedi.biz wrote: Subject says it all. I have a large assortment of product pictures which I need to give uniform backgrounds, preferably white. Can someone point me to a tutorial that discusses how? You can see a representative sample image at: http://www.dottedi.biz/images/diagnostics/DSC_4355.JPG. They can probably live with the shadows if I can lose the bulk of the background. Thx, Bob For this kind of thing, there is the name 'greenscreening', in which a matte, contrasting color is used as a background for an object, allowing the object to be easily separated from the background. In that case, Foreground-select is ideal. However, you basically have the opposite: A photo of a bluish-gray object on a bluish-gray background. Naturally this is very hard to separate automatically! So for such pathological cases, paths is probably a better choice. Smoothness is not a big deal (in fact the selection created by foreground-select is entirely binary, no smoothing involved)... this is because you can convert the selection to path and then that path back to selection if you want it smoother. If I needed to handle your example in the way you want, I would: * use foreground-select to get a rough approximation (make sure that there are no 'holes' by marking areas as foreground as needed) * enter QuickMask mode (click the icon to the left of the scrollbar) * select paintbrush with an appropriate brush and black color, paint away the wrongly selected parts * exit QuickMask mode (click the icon to the left of the scrollbar) * Select-To Path * Tweak the path if needed * right click on the path in the Paths dialog - 'Path to Selection' If your example wasn't pathological (ie if it had a good contrasting background), I would just use foreground select, convert to a path, tweak the path, and convert it back to a selection. Afterwards in either case, I'd probably just Select-Invert and fill with white (like this: http://i26.tinypic.com/bdpjm0.jpg ) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Scaling and resolution
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Patrick Horgan phorg...@yahoo.com wrote: Jaime Seuma wrote: Hi This is an interesting question also to me. David Gowers wrote: No, if you turn off View-Dot for dot then the DPI relative to your display DPI is used to scale your view of the image. That much I had already found; but still, when I open a file that has been scaled only in resolution (for instance 300-700), still the different imageviewers display the same image. A 400 pixel wide image will always have exactly 400 pixels across, so on any given display device it will show the same irregardless of the resolution. On a 70dpi device it will be 5.71 inches wide, on a 90dpi device it will be 4.44 inches wide, on a 300dpi device it will be 1 1/3 in. If you set the dpi for the image to match the device you intend to show it on, then if, for example you change units on the bottom of the drawing window to inches, it will accurately report to you the sizes of things as you expect to display them. It won't make it display any differently though. In GIMP (and Photoshop, and some other editing software) it will make it display differently. If your display reports its size correctly and Dot for Dot is off, the image will display at the correct size, closely matching the original DPI (of course you do not get any more actual dots out of this -- it just means that the relative scale of things is correct). It's easy to see this if you halve the DPI for one dimension (eg. so DPI == 36x72) and then turn off Dot for Dot On a 300dpi device it will still display as 1 1/3 in, even if you set the resolution to 70dpi. This is true for most simple 'viewing' software, which doesn't scale the view to be accurate. Not for editors that try to be accurate, such as GIMP. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A non-tool selection...
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Ilya Zakharevichnospam-ab...@ilyaz.org wrote: Why should *A USER* care how some #...@% *named* a tool? Why should *A USER* care what *another* user supposes is a correct tool for the job? (Assume that the first user has considered the suggestion, appreciated the suggestion, and decided to discard it. ;-) [*] They shouldn't necessarily, indeed, using a tool in new ways can be very helpful and informative. However, when the program explicitly states its purpose http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision You will need to explain how your request is relevant to that vision in order to have any likelihood of having your proposition accepted. P.S. [*] Myself, I do not use GIMP to CREATE graphics. I use it to fix existing images. I'm a slow thinker; before I decide HOW would I want to fix a particular photo, I investigate all the details I can think of. So, while my *intent* is to manipulate an image, THE FIRST things I always do are to use GIMP as a viewer. It might be the reason why I consider the default=panning-tool so useful. Am I so special? Do other edit-not-create people use different workflow? I just drag with the middle mouse button, or the stylus button, to pan, myself. (or I use the navigation view (icon in the bottom right corner of the image view) If I mainly edited, rather than having a fairly even balance of edit vs create, I would probably set the Zoom tool as the default (or possibly the Measure tool). I might even make the cursor keys scroll the display rather than adjusting opacity etc. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Important menu options are missing
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Bill S.for...@gimpusers.com wrote: I'm using GIMP 2.6.6 that came with my Ubuntu 9.04 distro. I've been trying to learn about GIMP. I bought a book about GIMP for $45. The book says there should be a menu item called DIALOGS in the FILE menu but my GIMP doesn't have the DIALOGS option. The option is very essential, but I don't have it. Also there should be a menu bar at the top of my toolbox but my GIMP has no menu bar there. Also there is something called Script-Fu or maybe TinyScheme that is missing from my GIMP. Probably many other things are missing but I don't know because I am not familiar enough. Is there some plug-in or upgrade package that will give me the menu option called DIALOGS in the FILE menu? Has anybody here had these problems I described? Yes, there is a downgrade package called 'Gimp 2.4' that will give you the obsolete menus you described. Chances are, there is nothing missing; it just isn't where you expect it to be. 1. there is no script-fu menu any more (although there is a 'script-fu' submenu in the filters menu, which AFAIK contains just the script-fu console). Script-fu now register in appropriate menu locations according to their respective function -- for example logo creation scripts are registered in File-Create-Logo, IIRC. 2. the Windows-Dockable Dialogs menu is probably what you actually want when you talk about the DIALOGS menu. 3. various other rationalizations and reorganizations of the menu structure have been done since your book was written. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] FG/BG color tool
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Carusoswifor...@gimpusers.com wrote: Sven: You're losing me. I understand that, since I've opened that window, it now shows up when I go to Windows -- Recently Closed Docks. But, if I haven't used that Dock, how would I pull it up from the Windows drop down menu? Sorry to be so dense. Sven is talking about the 'Dockable Dialogs' submenu of the 'Windows' menu AFAICS. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp help pages (Windows)
I saw the post on the issue with Gimp help pages. Did this ever get resolved? I've never used Gimp before but after installing 2.6.7 I get the same behavior. Dave Detty ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] What is the scale of Levels?
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Asif Lodhiasif.lo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, On 8/23/09, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: I would believe only in a God that knows how to Dance. - Nietzsche Would you please stop using inappropriate language for God? Nietzsche also wrote God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_is_dead No doubt you disagree with that (I do not, myself.). Regardless, the topic that you brought up (and especially the way you brought it up; you are not the arbiter of 'inappropriate language for God', nor does the way you presented your *opinion* as if it were *factual* speak well of your honesty.) is one that is commonly regarded as one that should not be brought up, as a matter of etiquette, on a public mailing list. If the issue of another person putting particular quotes in their email signature bothers you, I suggest you email them privately and leave all mailing-lists out of it. It's far less likely to result in a flame war than what you did do (post to a public mailing list attempting to get Darxus to change his behaviour on account of your *opinion*) Flaming Flaming is the practice of attacking people on a personal level. While flaming is relatively common on the internet, almost everybody will claim they're opposed to it. They may even flame you for having flamed someone. It's all really confusing, actually. However, there are some fairly obvious things. Responding to someone's analysis of the deficit crisis by telling them that they probably walk funny or weren't breast fed could easily classify as flaming. Making rude comments about an individual's sexual organs or religion would also probably classify. Personally, I stick to a simple rule: **I say nothing about anybody that I can not back up with facts. I do not comment about people's religions, their eating habits, whether or not they smoke, etc**. If I decide to comment about someone's level of intelligence, I make sure I have good examples to support my comment. But even then, I do this very rarely. **emphasis** added by me. http://songweaver.com/netiquette.html and If you should find yourself in a disagreement with one person, make your responses to each other via mail rather than continue to send messages to the list or the group. If you are debating a point on which the group might have some interest, you may summarize for them later. http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html (RFC 1855, the 'official' netiquette guide) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] What is the scale of Levels?
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:33 PM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: I'm looking for a mathematical definition of this scale. http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-levels.html says 0 is black and 255 is white. What's in between? Is 7 double the brightness of 6? Have you not experimented with it? 7 is nowhere near being double the brightness of 6. What is the luminance / brightness of each of the levels? luminance (n) = n (or n/255. if you want luminance on a 0..1 scale) Is it a logarithmic scale? no. It's a nominally linear scale, which is then modified by gamma parameter (if gamma == 1.0, that's no change). 0..255 simply correspond to sRGB pixel intensity values directly. So if you want a truly linear measurement of intensity, you need to apply the inverse of the sRGB curve. scipy used to provide an implementation of that -- see http://mail.scipy.org/pipermail/scipy-svn/2007-February/000703.html (rgbp2rgb function) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Scaling a foto
On Monday 17 August 2009, Monika Himpelmann wrote: Dear all, I have a question and maybe it is easy to answer and has been answered before although I didn't find it in the FAQ's. When I try to scale a foto in order to get it passport photo size it looses quality. The fotos I want to scale are of good quality but too large and are showing not only the head and upper chest of people but often more and so I have to cut them which is possible without any problem and then scale them in the format I need. I would understand the loss in quality if I would try to enlarge the fotos but making them smaller in size should not make them loose quality??? Sorry if I cover ground that has already been trod. I haven't had time to follow the discussion before now My take: scaling an image to a smaller size forces the program to interpret a group of pixels as a single color/pixel which leads to blockiness and lost quality. If I were trying to reduce the size of an image while preserving definition I would look at changing its resolution ie from 72pix x 72pix to 288pix x 288pix, reducing the images apparant size (to 1/4 the starting size) while keeping all the pixel information. This could be done at the time of printing (setting the printer resolution) or within gimp. If I am in error please let me know HTH -- dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Gary Collinsgcatl...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: It seems to me that gimp works a bit differently from photoshop. In photoshop (actually, I'm still using 'elements-2', can you believe? Although I have got Richard Lynch's excellent hidden power installed which releases a lot more of the underlying photoshop 7 functionality - and the book was great for learning about image manipulation in general - but I digress...) In photoshop you can add an adjustment layer, which operates on the layer underneath it. And you can go on adding new adjustment layers, and then going back to earlier ones to tweak the parameters - so I might have a base image with a brightness/contrast adjustment layer above it and a hue/saturation layer above that. Both adjustment layers operate on the base layer, I can go back to the middle (in my eg, the brightness/contrast), tweak the parameters and view the result - with the effects of the upper hue/sat layer still applied. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but it seems that in gimp I have to make a copy of the base layer and apply any adjustments to the copy; and repeat this for any new adjustment. This seems to be much less flexible, as subsequent changes to the middle layer would be obscured by the upper layer? This is certainly true; all of your points are true. This is being worked on. However, the specific idea of 'effect layers' is regarded as severely broken (basically cause it makes nonsense of the whole layers concept: all layers have content, but oh! effect layers don't. all layers have blending mode, but oops! effect layers don't. it's user-unfriendly in this marked inconsistency.) The implementation I believe we are currently aiming for is instead oriented around the idea of being able to attach any number of effects to a given layer group (btw, martin nordholts is doing some great work on layer trees presently and in the last few months.. they are shaping up well.) The photoshop method appears to be far more flexible. I was thinking that doing things this way might also have a beneficial effect on the file size, though judging by the size of photoshop format files, I doubt this is actually the case. Photoshop format generally saves a lot of cached data -- for instance, there is a thumbnail for each layer, and a composited version of the image rendered at full size. But I tend to save as layered tiff with zip compression applied to the layers, which makes them much smaller and preserves much of the layer information (though things like selections won't be saved. But I can live with that). ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Martin Nordholtsense...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/12/2009 04:21 PM, David Gowers wrote: btw, martin nordholts is doing some great work on layer trees presently and in the last few months.. they are shaping up well. You are confusing me with another M.N. It is Michael Natterer that has been doing great work recently on preparing for layer groups Oops! Sorry, Martin and Michael :) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please ,check this image
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: On 08/01/2009 08:37 AM, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 08/01/2009 01:05 PM, photocomix wrote: i never noticed a similar bug, even if i used Gimp to save as copy thousands of jpeg, and i would never believed this possible, but i have to face evidence to the point image dimensions: 90x116 Size: 547KB And what is really weird is that seems impossible , re-saving from gimp as jpg reduce the file size...even at quality 1 ( !!) i can't shrink it The JPEG has an embedded ICC color profile which GIMP ignores since it's a CMYK profile, but it keeps it around anyway and writes it to the JPEG if you resave it. To see the size of the attached color profile, first extract it: $ exiftool -icc_profile -b -w icc lightbulb.jpg Then look at how big it (and the image) is: $ du -hb lightbulb.* which gives the output 557168 lightbulb.icc 560484 lightbulb.jpg / Martin Martin, Very enlightening. In normal use of the program, how would the user known that there was such an embedded ICC color profile and thus to use the technique you outlined? Alt+Enter (Image Properties) shows whether there is an ICC profile attached (and what it describes itself as). Perhaps it should also mention the size of the profile David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] batch mode in gimp, add alpha, change color
On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 16:30 +0200, Marc T. wrote: i am on a similar problem, i have to build a batch script that slices over 6000 images very big images into seven pieces. David's Batch Processor should be able to do the job, not by slicing but by cropping each slice out of the image one at a time. Not the most efficient technique, but it should work. -- David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Can you help me understand this wrong colormap bug/problem?
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, everybody: I filed a bug about Gimp after some checking, it was declared INVALID and I was referred here to ask how to fix it. I'm running Gimp 2.6.6 on Ubuntu 9.04. I get bad results when saving images after Gimp converts the colormap. Its described here: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567551 The lcms author and Sven Neumann looked into it and concluded it is not a fault of the Gimp, but rather it is something wrong in the original image. Images have Adobe1998 colormap embedded, but apparently that is a mistake. I don't know how they can tell what the colormap is, and I don't understand why the original image looks fine in GQView but it does not look fine after editing in the Gimp. If I bring the original image into Gimp and refuse Gimp's invitation to convert the colormap, and save the image, it is displayed fine in GQView. But if Gimp resets the colormap in any way, the image looks bad. That's because the original color profile incorrectly specifies the meaning of the colors; garbage in, garbage out. I just don't get it. On a practical level, what is a user supposed to do? 1. How am I supposed to know if the wrong colormap is embedded in an image? 2. How can I follow Sven's advice to unset the colormap? In Gimp menus, I find only tools to convert or set the colormap, but not to unset it. First: you are not talking about colormaps (that is an entire different issue, related to indexed images such as GIF. You are talking about ICC color profiles. 1. Image Properties (ALT-Enter) has a tab devoted to describing the ICC profile. 2. I would guess you should try to assign the default sRGB profile to this image -- as all 'dumb' (ICC-unaware) programs will display images as if they are sRGB, because most monitors approximate sRGB. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Using GIMP on Netbooks?
On Monday 22 June 2009, Mewshi Mewshi wrote: Hello! I just got a Lenovo S10 Netbook, with a 10 screen. The problem is, with such a small-ish screen, I can't see part of the tool windows in GIMP! If anyone has ideas, I'm listening :) Plug into a regular monitor when wiorking, w/ a little effort you can keep your tools on the netbook and image on the monitor. You will still be limited in the output resolutions available but they are greater than that provided by the netbook. Also remember heavy image lifting is not the intended focus of these devices, although they do an admirable job. see ya -- dh ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get a smooth diagonal line
Are you looking for click, move to line end, shift-click?? On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:48 AM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, See the plain-old wooden fence at the top of this page. http://www.artsconnected.org/toolkit/encyc_linetypes.html Simply, right :-) I wanted practice drawing lines, shapes, and coloring them. I created the vertical and horizontal with the Rectangle Select Tool and Select Stroke Selection, Paint Tool set to Pencil Circle (01), Scale set to 2. To create the diagonal I still used the Rectangle Select Tool, then Rotate Tool, then Select Stroke Selection. But the line is very jagged, and it looks different than the horizontal and vertical. I tried just using the Pencil, then the Paint brush (holding the Shift key to get a straight line). I changed to a fuzzy brush. How does one get a smooth diagonal line, like the one in the picture. Thank you. -- __ DJ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- The point of making mistakes is to make the best mistakes you can make, and to keep making them to keep up your courage and keep improving the quality of your mistakes. There is a place and time for everything -- here and now! I have a strict policy of interference. Just do one thing. Let go of everything else as you do that one thing -- all your concerns and worries, hopes. fears and desires. This is what leads to knowing what you are doing and what you want to do. Misunderstandings are valuable. You want to improve? Get busy failing! Attempt things you believe out of your reach, until you learn how to reach them. Treating your feelings as less important than what you know is only the first step. The second, more challenging step is treating others feelings as less important than what they know. individuality is being the first value in your life, beyond your feelings, others feelings, your or others convenience. You are the star of your own life, there is no thing that can stand against achieving your chosen path. Nothing others do is particularly related to you; only what you do is particularly related to you. Your gratitude is what frees you to use your powers to the full. Your powers have: maximum capacity = 100% commonly safe capacity = 90% actual comfortable excellent regular pace capacity = 75% so-called 'breakneck pace' capacity = 60% other-perceived safe capacity = 45% self-perceived safe capacity = 30% typical usage = 20% lazy/cowardly usage = 5% Reason is no substitute for communication. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How do I get a smooth diagonal line
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:27 AM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi David, gimp-users, Are you looking for click, move to line end, shift-click?? I can draw, or a better way to say it, I can create a line or selection for that matter -- the marching ants. I can technically create a line with the Pencil and Paint Brush. But, I can't make it look nice. I can't get the diagonal to look like the picture, so it just looks like another board. I can very clearly see the steps of the diagonal. If I enlarge the image the diagonal line looks similar to (assumes fixed font email): ^ ^ ^ Even with paintbrush? (pencil tool does no 'smoothing', whereas most other tools do by default) If that is the case, it's possible your image is in INDEXED mode. Check the Image-Mode menu and convert it to RGB before trying again, if that is the case David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Edit Stroke Selection, Paint Tool=Paintbrush verses using the same Paintbrush Tool directly
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, After creating a rectangle with the Rectangle Select Tool, rotating it -40 degrees, I selected Edit Stroke Selection. I clicked the radio button next to Stroke with a paint tool and then Paintbrush in the Paint tool drop down. I then created a rectangle parallel to the one above using the same Paintbrush. I made no changes to the Paintbrush Tool Options. I created this rectangle freehand, clicking where the 4 corners would be while holding the shift key. Should the 2 painted rectangles look alike? No. I understand your problem now. The rectangle selection you made is constraining painting during the stroking of the selection., just like any other selection would. If you want the stroking to disregard the selection when applying paint, you are better off converting the selection to a path then stroking the path (with no selection active). To illustrate -- use the paths tool to create a rectangle, and stroke that path. The resultant stroking should display exactly the same appearance as your freehand rectangle. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Print Quality Poorer than Word?
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:01 PM, bumpkinfor...@gimpusers.com wrote: bumpkin for...@gimpusers.com wrote: The graphics guy sent me our logo as a .jpg so I created a new file with the appropriate dimensions in the lasest GIMP for windows. I imported and scaled down the logo to the appropriate size and placed it at the top, finished adding the text, combined the layers and exported as a .tiff for the printer. The logo and text resolution on the print out was terrible... I tried printing it in the original GIMP format and as jpeg... same quality. I then tried created the same add in Word 2007 and the image and text quality was excellent :( I am a linux user and was rather frustrated and confused when Word produced better print quality than GIMP. Any explanation or help greatly appreciated. Thanks Your problem is obviously a problem of resolution, especially when you compare a raster application like GIMP to a vectorial application like Word. What were your appropriate sizes? I suspect you appreciated them on your screen at 100 dpi, while your printer needs at least 300 dpi. Thanks for the reply. First I created a document to be the size of the entire quarter page ad, 3.75 by 4.75. That size is only meaningful in the context of the dpi used. at 100 dpi, that would be only 375x475 pixels, which is indeed very chunky. Whereas at 300 dpi, it would be 1125x1425. To be honest, it confuses me that you would use a raster editing application like GIMP to perform a task that is essentially vector-based, instead of choosing to use a vector-based application like Inkscape or Scribus. Personally, I would use Inkscape for such a task. However, you can certainly achieve what you want with good quality in GIMP, through applying improved understanding of the raster medium (eg the meaning and use of dpi/ppi) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Setting Keyboard Shortcut for Windows Dockable Dialogs?
Hi DJ, On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:45 AM, DJdelphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, I went to Edit Keyboard Shortcuts and clicked on Disabled next to Dialogs. The text changed to New accelerator I tried a couple of combinations and each time the text would change back to Disabled. This is normal: shortcuts can only be associated with menu items, not submenus. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Tool Options and finding a resource
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Sven Neumann s...@gimp.org wrote: Hi, On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 18:44 -0500, DJ wrote: Whether it's the Font on the Text Tool, or Brush on the Paint Tool, or Pattern Fill on the Bucket Tool, scrolling through the lists is slow and sensitive. I tried typing the first letter of font, brush, or pattern in the list but that doesn't seem to work. I didn't precede it with any alternate key (shift, ctrl, alt). What is the best (fastest :-)) way to get to, or position yourself, to the resource? Press Ctrl-F (or Ctrl-S, it depends on your GTK+ keybindings) in the list view to open the search field, then enter the first letter(s). I must say -- we need to promote this in the GIMP documentation! (particularly in conjunction with the tagging functionality) Personally, if I had known this, I would have hardly needed to wait for tagging, as I'd already included categorization in the gradient + pattern naming David. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Copy a layer mask from one layer to another layer?
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:13 AM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, Is it possible to copy a layer mask from one layer to another layer? Yes, make it so that you are editing the layer mask on both, then select all and Copy from one and Paste to the other. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Copy a layer mask from one layer to another layer?
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:01 AM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi David, gimp-users, Is it possible to copy a layer mask from one layer to another layer? Yes, make it so that you are editing the layer mask on both, then select all and Copy from one and Paste to the other. I was going to ask, What if the layers are different images?, but I just tried it, and only the layer mask was copied/pasted. I just became aware of Edit Buffer, and I see the layer mask in the Buffers Dialog too. Do Gimp users use the Buffer a lot? I seems like a nice little work area repository. 'the buffer'? Do you mean the Buffers mechanism and dialog (as opposed to simple Copy/Paste)? Not that I've ever heard of. It's nice in theory, I think the need to name buffers impedes the usability in practice. A limited amount of numbered buffers that you may *optionally* name seems more usable to me. I'm trying to think of all the various things I may want to copy. Paths and Channels comes to mind. I see on the Path Dialog, on the right-click, there is Copy Path and Paste Path. But there isn't something similar on the Channels Dialog. I'm still trying to get a stronger understanding of Paths and Channels, so maybe there wouldn't be a need to copy/paste a Channel. But, if there were, how would you do it? Just like any other drawable. Make it active (eg click on it in the channels dialog), Copy, make the one you want to paste to active, Paste. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Tool Options and finding a resource
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, Whether it's the Font on the Text Tool, or Brush on the Paint Tool, or Pattern Fill on the Bucket Tool, scrolling through the lists is slow and sensitive. I tried typing the first letter of font, brush, or pattern in the list but that doesn't seem to work. I didn't precede it with any alternate key (shift, ctrl, alt). What is the best (fastest :-)) way to get to, or position yourself, to the resource? Resource tagging is intended to address this problem. Have you tried it? You can assign tags to any resource using the bottom input field in the relevant dialog, and filter by tags using the top input field in the relevant dialog. (but not currently in the tool-options popup.. you must be using the full dockable, eg. Gradients, Patterns, Brushes in order to use this.) It would be great if we could do the normal keyboard-search thing for resources, I agree! For example: Text Tool Click on Font Icon The active font is Arial and I want to get to Tahoma. ... why can't you simply use the scrollbar to get near to the right place in a matter of 5 seconds? I can. I agree that the preview of fonts is comparitively sluggish VS eg. gradients or patterns. I think the previews should be calculated in idle time, so that scrolling and selection can be instant. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Anyway to add multiple Guides at once?
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:04 PM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, Didn't see it in the manual, but was wondering if there is a short-cut to adding multiple Guides at once (ie., a comma-separated list)? It seems difficult to imagine anything faster than the Gimp-python console for this: image = gimp.image_list()[0] # get the latest loaded image for y in (10,20,60,80, 120, 140, 260, 280): pdb.gimp_image_add_vguide (image, y) It should be possible to make a Script-Fu which accepts a list of coordinates (space separated) and does something similar to the loop above. However, I don't know how; I only know how to implement that in Python: # assuming 'coords' is the string parameter containing space-separated coordinates realcoords = [int(v) for v in coords.split()] for y in realcoords: pdb.gimp_image_add_vguide (image, y) Adding an option to choose between adding h and v guides should also be easy. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] change active tool from script
Hi Ryan, On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Ryan Krauss ryanli...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to be able to easily toggle between the Paintbrush with brush Circle (05) and an Eraser with brush Circle (17). I want to write one script for each and bind them to keys I can use to make this switch quickly. I have found the commands to set the brushes to either Circle (05) and Circle (17) and have written that part of each script and bound them to Alt-1 and Alt-2, so I can quickly change between the two brush radii, but I can't seem to find script fu commands to set the active tool to either Eraser or Paintbrush. Is there a way to do that from a script? No (and AFAICS, there will never be -- it has too much potential to confuse the user and introduce race conditions.) I was going to mention you could use xdotool to trigger the keyboard shortcuts for Eraser or Paintbrush, but actually you can't (not in Script-Fu; I always use Python to write my GIMP plugins, and I can shell out to xdotool easily enough in Python) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] More-... Wacom - What am I missing?
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM, stephen moss swm...@alumni.uwo.ca wrote: Please indicate what brush you have selected (and the 'brush scale' parameter in the tool options -- I *think* that was in GIMP 2.4). It could easily be something as simple as having the brush scale cranked down to invisible levels. Alexia Death had fixed that bug by GIMP 2.6+ (or maybe that was me. anyway she committed the patch), so if this is the problem, please consider upgrading to the latest in the 2.6 series, it mostly keeps you from having pointlessly small brush scale. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] big noob question (text pixelized when using blend tool)
Hello Remy! On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Remy Damour remy.dam...@laposte.net wrote: Hi all, I am quite new to gimp and have a big noob question. When I create a text using the text tool, everything is fine (text is created in color I want). But then, when I do : right-click on text-layer / alpha to selection and apply blend tool (with two colors), then text gets ugly and pixelized. You can see it right here: http://remydamour.com/gimp_issue.html It looks like you might have the image in Indexed mode. Try converting it to RGB (Image-Mode-RGB). David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Are these bugs? Missing/duped menu mnemonics non-working keystrokes (per menus)
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: Using Gimp 2.6.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) Linux. on K Desktop Environment 3.5.10 I would like to check with others whether or not these issues are unique to me, my installation, or my desktop environment If they are bugs, I will report them or others are welcome to do so (but please tell me if you do). 1) Missing mnemonics on menus. For example, under FILE, Create has no labeled mnemonic. See my reply below to 2). Sometimes, there is just not the mnemonic available. I believe that 'Save a _Copy' uses the mnemonic that could otherwise be used for 'Create', and the developers judged that Save a Copy would be used more often than the Create menu. 'e' might be available, though. Please note that you could also press Alt+F, DOWN,RIGHT to enter the Create submenu. Also, if you use the Create submenu a lot, consider tearing it off (rightclick in an image window, then leftclick on the dashed line at the top of a submenu) and using it more directly. 2) Duplicated mnemonics on menus. For example, under EDIT, the letter p is used ***THREE*** times, making it useless in a production environment. As long as the same image is open, doing ALT e p cycles through the the three occurrences of the p mnemonic. If it is the first time with the image, then it always goes to the first occurrence. Very obnoxious! This is very hard to avoid, unfortunately. The edit menu is large, and there are only 26 characters to use as mnemonics (actually other characters like numerics and punctuation are also possible, but usually not used.) I managed to resolve most conflicts in my Lojban translation, however Lojban has better distribution of letters (meaning that the name for some particular action is more likely to contain a uniquely usable character than eg. English). I have looked at this problem before, and concluded that we would have to start using numbers and punctuation as mnemonics in order to avoid significant conflicts. It is already possible to do so, but GIMP avoids this, as do most programs. Keeping in mind that it is impossible to resolve all mnemonic conflicts even in a small menu (due to plugins being able to add menu items which can have mnemonics), if you have a proposition which will resolve most of the current conflicts in a reasonable way, even if this is limited just to the File menu, please enlighten us. 3) Misdirected mnemonics. (This one may be a lack of understanding of menu mnemonics on my part.) ALT e p [!!! may have to hit p multiple times to arrive at the correct desired location of PASTE AS] to get to PASTE AS. This exposes the fly-out/sub-menu. The sub-menu includes NEW IMAGE with a mnemonic of n. However, typing an n at this moment does not utilize the fly-out menu, it goes to UNITS on the main EDIT menu. What is the point of having a mnemonic on the flyout/sub-menu if you can't access them without using the arrow keys to get into the flyout/sub-menu by which time you are focused on the desired item anyway and can just hit return. What the user means at that time is ambiguous. (access 'Units'? or something in the submenu?). Consequently, you need to press Enter first to confirm that you want to move into the submenu rather than access some other item on the same level. 4) Non-functioning keystrokes / keyboard shortcut listed on the menus. Specifically for me at the moment, CTRL SHIFT V is supposed to create CTRL+SHIFT+V, just to be clear. A single, chorded key combination. If this is really not working for you, I do think there is a problem with your installation (or your desktop environment -- see below). The other 3 points you brought up are verifiable. a new file from the clipboard contents. This set of keystrokes is stated in TWO places: FILE, CREATE, FROM CLIPBOARD and EDIT, PASTE AS, NEW IMAGE Both should accomplish the same thing, but on my system, it does nothing at all. This is really annoying because tomorrow I have to have a staff member use this functionality 297 times. Argh! (Yes, I know that as long as we use keystrokes to get to the menu, we can walk though it using the arrow keys. It is just annoying.) All keyboard shortcuts are accurate. If they don't work, chances are you don't actually have something on the clipboard, or you have another program (eg KDE) which is stealing that key combination and preventing GIMP from catching it. Personally, that combination works as expected for me; I just Edit-Copied something, then pressed CTRL+SHIFT+V and a new image window containing what I copied appeared. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Are these bugs? Missing/duped menu mnemonics non-working keystrokes (per menus)
A few corrections and additions: On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:36 AM, David Gowers 00a...@gmail.com wrote: What the user means at that time is ambiguous. (access 'Units'? or something in the submenu?). Consequently, you need to press Enter first to confirm that you want to move into the submenu rather than access some other item on the same level. Sorry Jay, what I said here is wrong. Right arrow, not Enter. This is really annoying because tomorrow I have to have a staff member use this functionality 297 times. Argh! If your setup is stealing that key combination, remember you can reassign it to something else using the 'Keyboard Shortcuts' dialog, to resolve the conflict. IIRC most of the F-keys have nothing assigned to them, you could probably use one of them. Personally I might assign this to CTRL+SHIFT+Insert (although, note that I have a 99% customized set of keyboard shortcuts, so I have eg. Insert instead of CTRL+V, PageUp instead of CTRL+C, etc.) All keyboard shortcuts are accurate. To clarify -- this is because they are shown based on the keyboard accelerator map, which is exactly what determines which keyboard events activate what actions. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 04 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: BTW, the crop tool doc I pointed to is basically the same help you get if you hover over Tools-Transform-Crop (or the toolbox icon of Crop, presumably -- I removed all tools from my toolbox, thus I do not know) and press Shift+F1 for context help. Doing similarly for the Image-Autocrop menu item brings me to file:///usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/plug-in-autocrop.html (don't bother clicking on that, it's a local link.. although, it MAY work in your system if your installation is similar enough) Which also links to the Crop tool and Crop Layer command. I literally never use that functionality myself, but it sounds like you would benefit from knowing about Shift+F1. Just F1 by itself is not context-sensitive. (there's also the menu item Help-Context help, which looks up the help on some thing (which it waits for you to click on) On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Autocrop crops the image automatically by detecting blank space surrounding the image content. That I'd argue about as its fresh in my mind. Autocrop, when viewing the image I had moved to the top of the canvas in order to get rid of the blanked area above it, but that left about 2/5ths of the canvas at the bottom of the image blank, it having been selected and cut using what I thought was a crop function. I agree that it can behave in a very confusing way when you have a selection active. IMO it doesn't make sense to use it when a selection is currently defined, we should either ignore the selection or bail out saying 'this doesn't make any sort of sense to perform when there is a selection. use Select-None and then rerun Autocrop, if that is really what you meant' AutoCrop always reported there was nothing to crop, as did zealous crop. Zealous crop does the same sort of thing, except for each individual object in the image (one of the effects of this is that the spaces between images are reduced. This is often handy for webpage authors.) images? I meant parts? mini-images, maybe. When it doesn't dump that portion of the canvas with it, leaving blank canvas behind, taking up space in the image. That to me is not a crop, its an erase. Even a 'cut' should take the canvas/paper with it, and a paste should add it back in. But I realize too that that might be several times more difficult to code. It seems to me that you are thinking in terms of an infinite canvas (which is relatively unsurprising given the background you have). However the canvas in GIMP is strictly finite, as is the case with many painting and photo-editing programs. The new system in GEGL, that is being integrated into GIMP, brings the possibility of support for an infinite canvas (and I'm sure it will be discussed, when the time comes). However, such support would be strictly optional if implemented. Why? Because the behaviour you describe (shrinking when cut, expanding when pasting) is actually quite rude for a lot of usage patterns (mainly if the image is going to end up on the web), where the coherency of layouts depends on images remaining exactly the same size. Expanding for pasting is not automatic, but it's pretty easy to do manually: 1. Paste whatever you want, where you want. 2. Image-Fit canvas to Layers 3. Click the New Layer button to make a new layer out of the pasted content 4. Rightclick on that layer and select 'Merge Down' (the above is only needed when pasting actually would expand the canvas and you want it to.) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] blur between images
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 5:57 PM, shay t. for...@gimpusers.com wrote: hello i want to create a texture for a 3d model so i took couple pictures of my face from different angels and i tried to blur where the images connects using clone tool i used the clone tool more then an hour and the result is not close to what i want my question is: is there is any way i can get result faster Use Hugin to merge the images in a smart way. IMO there is no reason to use GIMP to build the texture (except perhaps tiny cosmetic touchups of the result of Hugin) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, I do this all the time, I just make my selection with rectangle select and then use Image-Crop to selection. It's possible to do it even quicker with the dedicated Crop tool. or at least till its undone. Thanks guys, but please fix this most simple of photo editing function there is. You can see my problem at http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/probe-asmbled-1.jpg I can see your problem is that you are behaving in an arrogant and demanding fashion. This also leads me to doubt whether you have done a reasonable amount of research on this problem, especially as the first hit for Google search GIMP crop image to selection includes instructions for cropping using the Crop tool. In case it wasn't clear to you.. 'Erasing part of the image' does not in any way equate to 'reducing the area of the image'. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Help again, same old story.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 03 May 2009, David Gowers wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings; This, most simple of a photo manipulation has been hidden behind portable menu mumbo jumbo for a decade now, is it not possible to fix it for almost main menu access, just by drawing a box around what you want, invert the selection and anything outside the box is gone forever, I do this all the time, I just make my selection with rectangle select and then use Image-Crop to selection. And I believe I tried that at one point in my 10,000 monkeys experimentation, and was left with a blank view, hello undo... That means that you selected a very small area, I guess. OTOH It's possible that you are actually encountering a bug. However, given the amount of people, with no special knowledge of GIMP, who manage to perform this task regularly with little trouble, I believe that the problem is with your understanding and/or attitude. my Bessler 23c/w/dichro head on up the rack and adjusting the easel to get exactly what I want, so automatically I wasn't even concious of doing it. That is why I find it so difficult to make gimp do it. AFAIK the Crop tool works virtually identical to the kind of apparatus you were using. Perhaps you enabled some option that makes it behave in some way other than you expect (the 'current layer only' option (I think -- I don't run GIMP in English) might qualify) This also leads me to doubt whether you have done a reasonable amount of research on this problem, especially as the first hit for Google search GIMP crop image to selection includes instructions for cropping using the Crop tool. I didn't. Why should google have better instructions on running the gimp than its own help has? Because as olivier says, you do not know what questions to ask. GIMP's help is perfectly adequate, but clearly you were not able to help yourself using it. Otherwise you would have found and used this: http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-crop.html In case it wasn't clear to you.. 'Erasing part of the image' does not in any way equate to 'reducing the area of the image'. David Ok, what does the autocrop and zealous crop function actually do then? They do not obviously do this. The erase functions should be labeled as erase, not crop, or some $5 equ prefixed *crop. To this old darkroom techy, 'crop' means The erase functions are named erase. The crop functions are named crop. Autocrop crops the image automatically by detecting blank space surrounding the image content. Zealous crop does the same sort of thing, except for each individual object in the image (one of the effects of this is that the spaces between images are reduced. This is often handy for webpage authors.) 'Image-Crop to selection' crops all layers (and the image canvas) to the selected area. 'Layer-Crop to selection' crops just the active layer to the selected area. Crop tool reduces the area of the image (or just the active layer, depending on what option is selected) to the size you choose. The eraser (and Edit-Cut, Edit-Clear etc) removes content -- it doesn't change the size of the 'paper', just like the real world. So please don't call an 'erase' function a 'crop', its scattered all through the menus miss-labeled as a crop. It is not. It just adds fuel to the fire of frustration. In what way does the above not match the meaning of crop? David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Some questions about installing GIMP Animation Package and GIMP Help on Windows workstations
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 5:17 AM, Wilson, Francis fwil...@lausd.net wrote: Thank-you for your reply to my request for help. I read what you wrote and followed the links. As far as I can tell, there is no currently available GIMP Animation Package for GIMP 2.6; nor do I find appropriate GIMP Help files that I could install on the workstations. Of course, there is always on-line help. That's somewhat true. I myself use GAP 2.4 with GIMP 2.6, and it works okay for me. AFAIK the package I linked is what you'd install to get this setup on Windows systems. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report
Hello, On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote: Friends, In my normal work, I make use of a significant number of special characters, e.g. é, ©, — [Alt-0233, Alt-0169, and Alt-0151 respectively]. Despite the statement in the online documentation (specifically on page http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-text.html, in the box under Font labeled Note, reading You can get special characters in the same way as you get them in other text editors: Alt + number keypad in windows), on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6) when I enter the Alt + code for a special character, nothing happens, that is, the character does not appear, and the cursor does not advance. Has anyone else run into this? Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though -- in almost every application) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report
Hello Ernie, On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Ernie Wright ern...@comcast.net wrote: David Gowers wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com wrote: on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6) when I enter the Alt + code for a special character, nothing happens, that is, the character does not appear, and the cursor does not advance. Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though -- in almost every application) Note that in order for this to work, you need to (1) HOLD DOWN the Alt key while entering the character code, and (2) enter the 0 digit at the start of the code. Thanks for clarifying that. Actually, in order for it to work, you must do absolutely nothing. Because it does not work, in any variation including the above. It may work on Windows or MacOSX, I don't know; I only know what the behaviour in Linux is (Ubuntu 8.04 specifically). Maybe it's an option you can enable somewhere. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] G'MIC plug-in, 1.3.1.3 release
I'm happy to announce the 1.3.1.3 release of the G'MIC plug-in for GIMP. http://gmic.sourceforge.net/gimp.shtml G'MIC is a open-source and quite complete image processing framework containing its own image processing language and interpreter, which has been embedded as a plug-in for GIMP. The plug-in proposes then a lot of different filters for the user, for applying various effects such as image deformations, enhancement, color manipulation, 3D rendering and so on... The plug-in is really extensible and users can write new effects directly included in the plug-in filter list. The interesting thing is that each effect can be automatically previewed. It particularly has nice smoothing algorithms for image noise removal (G'MIC is in fact the continuation of the former GREYCstoration plug-in : http://cimg.sourceforge.net/greycstoration/ ). This release corrects many bugs of the previous versions and add interesting features, such as a better control of the filters input/output, a lot of new effects (particularly for layer blending), a better preview window, ... The plug-in is available from the web page above for Linux32, Linux64 and Win32 architectures. I'm looking for some help to compile it for Win64 and Mac OS X platforms. You are welcome to contact me if you are interested to do this. Hope this is an interesting information, I really think this release brings interesting stuffs. Regards, David. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Two Gimp environment questions
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Alchemie foto\grafiche fotocom...@yahoo.it wrote: Regarding, concept 2 clones may kill each other, I'm working under the assumption, that the order of the directories in the Edit / Preferences / Folders, determines which script or plug-in is used. The 2 arrows at the top of the panel change the order. Not exactly and is not only a problem for clones even if happen much more seldom in other cases I always fail to explain it with the right words i hope other may do better I try again but the technical term may be not exact: Basically there are parameters assigned to each script, when 2 or more script use the same name of a already assigned parameter trouble happen. The problem occurs when two or more scripts define and register a function with the exact same name. AFAIK the parameters of the functions do not effect this problem; and scripts themselves cannot have parameters, only the functions they define. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How do I avoid error message _windows_ when opening tif files created in Photoshop? (MaxSampleValue, MinSampleValue)
Hi Jay, On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: I am using Gimp 2.6.6 on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy) Linux. ... How can I tell Gimp to suppress reporting such errors and/or direct all such errors to stderr instead of Gimp opening up a GIMP Message window that has to be dismissed every darn time I open one of these old image files? Also, a minor irritant: The GIMP Message window is not shown in the various lists of windows in my desktop's task bar. My desktop is KDE 3.5.10. Thus if I don't dismiss each such window as they come up, they end up hanging around under other windows and one could easily end up with lots and lots of them present. And I can't get at them by using the task bar lists. Have you tried creating an 'Error Console' dockable? It normally catches such messages which would otherwise cause popups. David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Annoying Windows Layering
gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu wrote: Brian Weese wrote: I have the latest build of GIMP 2.6.6 ad running Windows XP. The Toolbox dialog and any dockable dialogs are ALWAYS in front of the file I am working on. I usually have the layers and brush dialogs open while I'm working on a file. I could increase the screen resolution but it makes the text so tiny... I have been able to work around it for now, but it is really annoying. Hi You can change the dock window hints in Edit - Preferences - Window Managment to Normal window if you don't want them as utility windows. Note that you can toggle visibility of docks with the Tab key. The utility feature seems to be broken in windows. I tried it for a little while but had to switch it off. I forget exactly why. I think some canvas windows would always be hidden if you had more than one file/view open in utility mode. I'd be more specific but I really can't remember. David Marrs Btw, (off topic) recently something changed on both gimp user and developer so that all emails appear to come from the mail bot rather than the original sender Thus, I never know who's talking in an email unless they sign themselves. I was fiddling around with my settings at the time but I'm pretty sure I set everything back to how it was. I wondered if someone made a change in the admin settings in an attempt to fix the annoying reply-to issue, cos that seems to work ok now. ---AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM)--- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Nice features
gimp-user-boun...@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu wrote: Hi DJ, On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:47 AM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Do the tear-away menus still exist? I didn't use them a lot when I first read about them a while back, but I remember that there were suppose to be a dashed line on sub-menus, and you'd grabbed them and the menu would tear away. I used it a little bit, but something came up and I wanted to revisit that, and I don't see the dashed lines any more at the top of sub-menus. http://docs.gimp.org/en/menus.html#detachable-submenus This depends on your GTK+ settings -- if you're using GNOME, it often likes to explicitly disable tearoffs; also, the rightclick menu can be different from the menubar in this aspect -- my menubars have no tearoffs, my right-click menu does have tearoffs. David Unfortunately, in Ubuntu 8.10, you don't seem to be able to enable menu tearoffs in gnome at all. I don't know if Gnome switched it off or what, but selecting it in gconf does nothing. I've searched the web for info about why it doesn't work (or even /if/ it doesn't work - maybe it's just me) but with no luck. David Marrs ---AV Spam Filtering by M+Guardian - Risk Free Email (TM)--- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] How do I avoid error message _windows_ when opening tif files created in Photoshop? (MaxSampleValue, MinSampleValue)
Hi Jay, On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote: On 04/23/2009 10:04 AM, David Gowers wrote: Have you tried creating an 'Error Console' dockable? It normally catches such messages which would otherwise cause popups. David Thanks David, That did the trick. But... a) Now I have yet another window on my desktop whenever I run Gimp. Is there any way to hide it? Why would you have another window? You know.. Dockables are called that because you can dock them :) Surely you already had some attached to your toolbox? Personally I have only two windows on my desktop, the image window and the toolbox (with lots of dockables attached). I'm not sure why you would have a multiplicity of windows if you could avoid it. b) Is there any way to simply tell gimp to ignore these particular error messages? No (short of editing the source and recompiling) c) Are these really proper error messages? What exactly is it complaining about and why? Are the files that Photoshop created defective in some way? Or have the standards changed? I don't know *exactly* what it is talking about, but, according to http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=Ustart=1q=http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/tiff/TIFF6.pdfei=zRrxSaSVBJX0tAOT_-D3Cgusg=AFQjCNFrxJb-bxA-_MzplqUU6YfaAwtVIw , MinSampleValue and MaxSampleValue are only to be used for statistical purposes and not to effect display or print in any way -- so I am guessing that warnings rather than errors should be given. I think it's quite possible that PS is creating defective files, as that part of the TIFF spec seems ill-defined. I don't really understand why GIMP is expecting 3; Intuitively I would expect it to expect 1. It's possible that this is a GIMP bug caused by copy+paste (probably from the code to handle MaxSampleValue, where in my limited understanding, expecting 3 is often sensible.) In any case, I recommend you file a bug report about it ( http://www.gimp.org/bugs ) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Ctrl, Shift, Alt
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:34 AM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, I was trying out Gimp's various Selections, and tools. Clicking on the Ctrl, Shift, and Alt keys, before a left-click and after a left-click, changes the Action. Yes -- this is indicated by the tooltips when you hover over the 'replace'/'add'/'subtract'/'intersect' icons, as well as the Sometimes there is helpful text in the status bar at the bottom of the Image telling the user to try these keys. I find it helpful to have the specific Tool's options open too, because it may provide a visual indicator what these keys will do (i.e., highlight an option or check/uncheck a checkbox). I like this feature, and especially the text in the status bar. It's very helpful. It really pays, at the beginning, to move slowly, and read that text in the status bar after clicking. I was wondering, is it pretty much a given that all Tools support Ctrl, Shift, Alt, before and after a left-click? No (although all selection tools do.). For instance, most paint tools don't support Alt, since there is no sensible action to map to this (whereas CTRL = pick color or set source location, SHIFT = draw line from last point) Some tools support none of the modifiers at all, for the same reason. (eg color tools like Curves, Levels, etc.) I did checkout the section Keys and Mouse References in the Documentation. And found the neat Quick Reference [http://docs.gimp.org/quickreference/]. Unless, I just missed it, none of these mention the mouse and these keys. Yes. The ctrl/shift/alt behaviour is complex for some of the selection tools, so doesn't easily fit in a quick reference. OTOH, the ctrl/shift behaviour for paint tools is simple enough that it should probably be in the quick reference. In the main documentation, these actually are documented -- see http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tools-selection.html#gimp-tool-select If you think this could be made more obvious or accessible, I encourage you to contribute to the documentation project (see http://docs.gimp.org/help.html ) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Two Gimp environment questions
Hi DJ, On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 10:51 AM, DJ delphit...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Gimp-user, * One * I was just trying things out and noticed some errors when I start Gimp from the Linux command line. They don't seem to be causing any problems, but I was wondering if anyone knew what they were. If I take one for example, /././.gimp-2.6/patterns/. This directory is in Gimp's Preferences. I see the patterns in the Pattern Dialog. I can open up the patterns from Gimp's File Dialog. So why the fail to load? HHMmm... :-) * Messages * GIMP-Error: Failed to load data: Image file '/././.gimp-2.6/patterns/extras' contains no data GIMP-Error: Failed to load data: Fatal parse error in palette file '/././.gimp-2.6/palettes/gps': Read error in line 1. GIMP-Error: Failed to load data: Fatal parse error in gradient file '/././.gimp-2.6/gradients/web2.0': Read error in line 1 What this means is that, opening a directory as if it is a file will not yield sensible results, and naturally these directories do not make sense when you try to read them as if they were gradient files :) * Two * Awhile back, I installed the FX-Foundry. I was looking at the Gimp Registry and noticed there seemed to be some duplication. For example, Quick Sketch. In FX-Foundry, the name is: phillips-quick-sketch.scm Last update according to internal comments: 9/9/2007 In Gimp-Registry, the name is: quick-sketch_0.scm Last update according to internal comments: 2/9/2009 The changes made by a different person than the originator. Should I expect to see duplication between FX-Foundry and the Gimp Registry? The Gimp Registry is the official add-on location, correct? Fx Foundry is itself available on the GIMP Registry, so.. I'm not sure what else to say... FX Foundry is a collection of scripts, some of which were sourced from the GIMP Registry; some of them have been updated to be compatible with GIMP 2.6 as needed. If you believe that the FX-Foundry version is out of date, consider mailing the creator of FX-Foundry about this. I have looked at it myself, and it appears that certain aspects of the registry version are improved on the FX-Foundry version. In particular, the registry version, rather than converting the image to grayscale, only desaturates the current layer. So it might be worth mentioning this to the maintainer, Alexia Death (though she may see this anyway :) I know she's subscribed to the gimp-developer ML, not sure about the gimp-user ML) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] sane
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:06 PM, David Miller da...@millersweb.com wrote: My File Create menu has, From Clipboard, Screenshot, Buttons, Logos, Patterns, and Web Page Themes. I still don't see anything about acquire. David That just means you don't have a version of the XSane plugin installed that is appropriate for 2.6.x. (this is easy to verify -- the plugin browser in the Help menu allows you to search by name, and shows where in the menu something shows up. searching 'sane' will probably bring up nothing) Chris Mohler's suggestion is good. Personally I would recompile it myself (I recompile all these types of things myself just so I can be sure I know what I'm getting :) David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Some questions about installing GIMP Animation Package and GIMP Help on Windows workstations
Hi Francis, On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Wilson, Francis fwil...@lausd.net wrote: I am a computer teacher at a public high school in Sylmar, California, and a long time open source enthusiast. I have downloaded and installed GIMP 2.6.4 on the 32 Windows XP workstations in my computer lab. I have also downloaded gimp-gap-2.4.0.tar.bz2 and gimp-help-2.4.2.tar.bz2 to my administrative Windows XP computer; I uncompressed both these files. producing GIMPAnimationPackage and GIMPHelp folders folders respectively. Both of these folders contain a file called install, but both talk about shell scripts which are appropriate to Unix or Linux. How do I install the animation package and the help files to Windows computers? First, you download the right files. gimp-gap-2.4.0.tar.bz2 is almost certainly a source code distribution, not binaries. Probably both of the files you downloaded are unsuitable for your architecture. For GIMP-GAP, you probably want the file linked to here: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/topic/Gimp-gap-2-4-0-For-Windows-28692-1.html David ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
