Re: [Ql-Users] Copying
I have had times where something happens in the directory structure - don't know if it is fragmentation or something corrupted. But using the cp command as someone gave has worked to fix things every time for me; just do it onto a newly formatted drive. jim On 03-12-2010, at 9:46 PM, David Tubbs wrote: At 23:50 03/12/2010 +, you wrote: wcopy win1_ to win2_ just copies the root files (of course). I am suffering from the BBS working *perfectly* for about 10 years or more, until a hard disk failure last week. All my 23 rotated backups (in a partitioned HD) seem OK. Tony Just a suggestion, how about disk imagieing software, or DOS DISKCOPY iif the disks can be made recognisable ? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Hi + graphics formats
Hi Thorsten, Glad to see that you are still hanging out here. Yes, I am still around and trying to find time to finish up the FileManager for QDT - it is a struggle but will happen. No plans right now beyond that though. jim On 29-11-2010, at 8:55 AM, thorsten herbert wrote: Hi all, My name is Thorsten and I'm a proud owner of a MGG QL which I bought when it came out in Germany. I'm following this list since many years but never posted and shortly I re-registered with a new account as one of my e-mail accounts was obsolet. Some of you know me already as I had the pleasure to do some icons and graphics for Jim Hunkins QDT. Is Jim around here and may interestd in adding new stuff to QDT? Recently I got Qemulator from Daniele for OS X and started to play a bit around with it. I would like to do some bitmap pictures in 8 colour mode and am wondering about the right file-format. I'm quite good in Photoshop and software like this and also have Graphics converter here on my Mac. It would be great if somebody could help me out telling me in which format I should save the files and how I can open them afterwards with Qemulator. Thanks. PS. I'm receiving messagges as a Digest ... so it is possible that I reply only tomorrow :-) Have fun with your QL, Tho ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1
Arrived in Canada today. jim On 22-09-2010, at 12:46 PM, SMSQ - Jochen Merz wrote: :-) Glad to read this ... I hope that the other issues arrive quickly at their destinations - they are all on their way. I am happy to deliver another issue with many bonus pages next time too - provided, we get enough material for the next issue in time!!! Cheers Jochen Anton Preinsack wrote: Am 19.09.2010 um 13:06 schrieb Frank-Guido Dibowski: QL Today Volume 15 Issue 1 arrived here(Germany, Eifel) yesterday. I like it Regards to all, Frank-Guido Dibowski QL Today arrived here in Vienna/Austria (and I like it, too;-)). Regards, Anton ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Jochen Merz Software - Kaiser-Wilhelm-Str. 302 - D-47169 Duisburg Tel. +49-(0)203-502011 Fax +49-(0)203-502012 Email: s...@j-m-s.com Homepage: http://SMSQ.J-M-S.COM ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL search engine
Hi Dilwyn, Sorry to be a pain but is these another option to do it with Java or something else? I don't run Internet Explorer nor Active X (Mac and either Safari or Firefox - so active X is not an option). I can do searches in other ways so not a big deal - just would be nice though. Thanks, jim On 01-06-2010, at 8:06 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I forgot to mention that if your browser's security settings restrict the page from running scripts and ActiveX controls (e.g. the beige bar which appears above the page in Internet Exploder) you should click where it tells you to, and tell it to let the offending code run (if you trust me and my website...) This might be the case where the search box just says loading and nothing seems to happen. Dilwyn Jones - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones dil...@evans1511.fsnet.co.uk To: ql-users@lists.q-v-d.com Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 12:49 PM Subject: [Ql-Users] QL search engine I've added a little Google Custom Search Engine to the home page on my website. It's set up to concentrate on searching for Sinclair QL related pages, although it's still being fine-tuned and tweaked for best results, and so on. It appears below the heading on my home page and when you enter a search term and click on Search, it expands the page with a list of results, like the usual search engine results. Those can be cleared when finished with by clicking on the X next to the SEARCH button. I'd be interested in receiving feedback on whether you find it useful or not and any suggestions you may have! It does take a little while longer for the home page to load, but it should be more than worth the small delay. http://www.dilwyn.me.uk/index.html Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2910 - Release Date: 06/01/10 07:25:00 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] QL search engine
Interesting - you said Active X so didn't try it. Just did now and it works fine. Looked at the source and it shows it as Javascript so it should work pretty much on any modern browser and system. Nice, jim On 01-06-2010, at 10:26 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Sorry to be a pain but is these another option to do it with Java or something else? I don't run Internet Explorer nor Active X (Mac and either Safari or Firefox - so active X is not an option). I can do searches in other ways so not a big deal - just would be nice though. Thanks, jim Yes - it could be done using Perl or PHP - free search engine scripts are out there. I'm not literate in either, so if anyone would like to do it for me, go ahead! This is actually a Goggle-supplied search engine code, tailored towards QL sites. I would have thought it'd run on anything that could run a website, certainly Google don't seem tot ell you it won't work on Macs etc. Did you actually try it? Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Happy New Year
Interesing - got my copy here in Canada on Dec 24th. Just haven't had time to read it yet. Happy New Year, jim On 01-01-2010, at 4:55 PM, François Van Emelen wrote: Op 1/01/2010 14:36, SMSQ - Jochen Merz schreef: Thanks Dilwyn may I wish the same to you and all the others on the list too. I'm a bit surprised that there has been no comment about the QL Today issue 2 which I sent out middle of December - or was the post too slow to deliver before Xmas? Jochen Nothing has arrived in Belgium. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qxl.win
I have had that happen occasionally in the past, especially when I was doing a lot of developing for QDT which generated a lot of files every time I rebuilt it. My guess is that it is some sort of fragmentation or less likely a file system table corruption. What I did to resolve it was to recursively copy all directories and files to a brand new drive and then, after exiting QPC, rename the original as a backup name (just in case) and rename the new one as the original name. In QPC you can also just change the names in the configuration for each drive. I used the 'cp' command (I think that it came with some Unix command set) to do the copying. One time hint, do not run it in verbose mode or else, depending on how many files, it will seem to take forever. Once you verify that the new drive is good, then you can get rid of the original that you backed up. I have never had a failure in doing this. Copying the entire qxl.win file takes the entire directory data structure with it so if it had a problem before, it will still have one. On 08-11-2009, at 6:42 PM, P Witte wrote: Dilwyn Jones wrote: I've run into an unusual program with my WIN1_ (a QXL.WIN) which I have been unable to resolve. DIR WIN1_ gives 84847/1048560 sectors, it's a 512MB QXL.WIN, with 11,716 files on it. Despite reporting 84847 sectors free it says Drive Full. Deleting one file will let me save one file normally, then it runs into Drive Full next time I try to save anything. So it's not as if it's write protected, for example. Anyone any idea what's happening? Could I have run into the maximum number of files a QXL.WIN file might hold, for example (directory full)? Ive got a disc 63943/655358, with 13,023 files and 859 directories. Perhaps you have a lot of files in a single directory? It was running on a pen drive, so I tried copying it to C: drive and using it from there with QPC's win1_ pointing to C:\QXL.WIN. Same result. Next step will be create a new blank QXL.WIN and copy everything there to see if that gives the same result (i.e. checking for fragmented qxl.win?) Thats what Id try. Even if you copied all your files into the root directory they should all fit! I just tried: for i = 1 to 99: save 'win5_t'i: at 0,0:print i, on a blank qxl.win file. Its still going strong at 16000 files plus! I'll let you know the final answer unless Marcel gets there first ;o) Per Help! Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] qxl.win
Confirmed, as long as you use the correct parameters, 'cp' will fully duplicate everything. Whoever ported it did a good job. jim On 08-11-2009, at 7:32 PM, P Witte wrote: James Hunkins wrote: I have had that happen occasionally in the past, especially when I was doing a lot of developing for QDT which generated a lot of files every time I rebuilt it. My guess is that it is some sort of fragmentation or less likely a file system table corruption. What I did to resolve it was to recursively copy all directories and files to a brand new drive and then, after exiting QPC, rename the original as a backup name (just in case) and rename the new one as the original name. In QPC you can also just change the names in the configuration for each drive. I used the 'cp' command (I think that it came with some Unix command set) to do the copying. One time hint, do not run it in verbose mode or else, depending on how many files, it will seem to take forever. Once you verify that the new drive is good, then you can get rid of the original that you backed up. I have never had a failure in doing this. Copying the entire qxl.win file takes the entire directory data structure with it so if it had a problem before, it will still have one. Exactly right Jim. Way to go! I presume cp maintains the file dates, etc? Otherwise I have a home grown routine for this if anyone needs one. On 08-11-2009, at 6:42 PM, P Witte wrote: Next step will be create a new blank QXL.WIN and copy everything there to see if that gives the same result (i.e. checking for fragmented qxl.win?) Thats what Id try. Even if you copied all your files into the root directory they should all fit! I just tried: for i = 1 to 99: save 'win5_t'i: at 0,0:print i, on a blank qxl.win file. Its still going strong at 16000 files plus! I'll let you know the final answer unless Marcel gets there first ;o) Cant wait for the final result as after about 16k files in one directory things really start to slow down! No wonder, as for each save the filing subsystem has to check every entry before the next save can occur. Having determined that there is no arbitrary limit, I presume that the max number of files in one directory is probably around 32k (though it could be 65k) However, the practical limit at present is about 16k - 20k as after that, even on a 2.66 GHz Core Duo, things slow down unbearably. Qpac absolutely hates having to read such a large directory, and if a Sort is switched on it takes forever! A theoretical answer would be much quicker to obtain, but Im rather rusty at the moment and would know where to look for the data. But this way of finding out also gives some practical insights. The final figure at closing time is: 27490 files in the root directory! and that took almost one hour to complete. Good night! Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the QDT desktop and SBASIC job 0 windows...
Hi Martyn, Did you see my reply before? I am the writer of QDT in case you didn't recognize my name. You can position your QDT folders and icons anywhere you want on your desktop. You said that you were working with an 800x600 desktop so you should have room around the normal default windows 0-2 which would avoid having to bring things to the front. Or you can rearrange how you do your three base basic windows. Now if you have more folders and icons than you can fit into the open space, or if you have a program that takes over the entire screen or insists on sitting on top of your QDT locations, as mentioned there is a command in the main QDT drop down window that redraws all the QDT icons and folders on the top of everything. This menu can be accessed from the QDT icon, any QDT folder, or the short cut key that was setup when you installed QDT. Also note that the desktop image is set behind everything, taking advantage of things that Marcel did in SMSQE. It is separate from QDT, QDT just draws to the desktop image (IE: your screen background) but it isn't a separate job and it stays in back. If you have any questions, just let me know. By the way, QDT runs better with QPAC2 also - pleases see the manual for this and other information. jim On 14-10-2009, at 7:23 PM, Martyn Hill wrote: Hello once again Thanks for the replies. So, it's more a case of hiding Job 0, than trying to bring the QDT + wallpaper to the top. Looks like I need to fork-out some cash for QPAC2 after years of trying to do without it! Regards, Martyn Hill London. Martyn Hill wrote: Hi * I have a question regarding QDT that I have installed in my QPC environment. I have not made much use of QDT since I purchased it some time ago, partly due to the way that the QDT desktop always sits 'behind' my extended SBASIC job 0 windows. I have enabled a QDT desktop background that just peeks from underneath my job 0 windows (which don't quite fill the 800x600 QPC window that I use), but I can never send the job 0 windows to the background, in the way that I would expect (i.e. from principally using Windows). When I switch to any of the QDT icons, they do appear on top as you would expect, so I don't think there is an error in that software. I guess I am missing some understanding of the way PE windows work - what I would like to achieve is to treat the job 0 windows in the same way as any other job and have them hidden by the QDT desktop whenever QDT is brought to the top, just as one might click 'Show Desktop' in Windows. Any advice? I'd like to use QDT more (as well as see it continue to be developed!). Regards, Martyn Hill London. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Question regarding the QDT desktop and SBASIC job 0 windows...
I don't have QDT open right now but there is a command in the QDT menu
to 'redraw desktop' or something like that. You can access the QDT
menu either by right clicking onto the primary QDT icon (which you can
move anywhere on your desktop). You can also access from the hot key
that was set up when you first installed QDT into your boot menu.
What it is actually start another QDT program that draws the menu.
When you redraw the desktop it calls every QDT icon and open folder
and redraws them on top.
You can also save your desktop so if you move the QDT icon to a place
that it is always open, save it with the 'Save Desktop' type selection
in the same QDT menu.
What I have done, when I boot with QDT I also redraw the three basic
windows down my screen a bit because I have some icons where it
normally defaults to.
If you can't find this is the manual, let me know and I will dig out
the details.
jim
On 12-10-2009, at 4:57 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote:
Martyn Hill wrote:
I guess I am missing some understanding of the way PE windows work -
what I would like to achieve is to treat the job 0 windows in the same
way as any other job and have them hidden by the QDT desktop whenever
QDT is brought to the top, just as one might click 'Show Desktop' in
Windows.
QDT uses a trick for the icons, they are separate programs actually,
that's why you can pick them separately. An explicit Show Desktop
option is probably possible, but would have to be implemented by QDT.
As a work around I can unfortunately just suggest to Hide SBASIC
instead, for example by this hotkey (QPAC2 necessary):
ERT HOT_WAKE(',','Button_Sleep')
Now when you're in SBASIC Alt+, will hide it.
Marcel
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Re: [Ql-Users] ql-mac Lucerne show
Congratulations! jim On 08-09-2009, at 12:57 PM, SMSQ wrote: Thank you very much :-) Nothing mystic here, but we don't advertise this either :-D We thought after 10 years, we should know what we want ... so we got married. Cheers Jochen Ralf Reköndt wrote: Mr and Mrs Merz - yes - I bet some of you did not know Jochen and Andrea have got married. Ah Jochen, always mystic...;-) Jochen Andrea, my honest congratulations for your marriage. I wish you both a lucky and healthy life together! Cheers...Ralf ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm -- Jochen Merz Software - Kaiser-Wilhelm-Str. 302 - D-47169 Duisburg Tel. +49-(0)203-502011 Fax +49-(0)203-502012 Email: s...@j-m-s.com Homepage: http://SMSQ.J-M-S.COM ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Pointer test
Exactly - if you are moving icons between windows, you need to take control of it all. I actually got carried away as I was dragging between desktop and separate windows, all with different jobs. All I can say is that database sharing the the QL message passing stuff works quite well. We have to do a bit more on the QL than for example Windows as we don't seem to have a separate 'desktop' type job (which is why the icons in QDT do not automatically redraw in all cases) but it still works quite well. jim On 26-Jan-09, at 3:07 PM, P Witte wrote: James Hunkins wrote: You will have had better success than me, then. But I find that unless I have exclusive rights to the screen it is easy to loose the sprite and mess up the operation. It is many years since I worked on this problem, so I cant remember what I tried. I suppose one could OUTLine the whole screen.. Per I do custom sprites for copy and moving with QDT, using the different pointer routines. Maybe not usable from within an existing call but doable. jim On 25-Jan-09, at 1:14 PM, P Witte wrote: gdgqler wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 13:18, P Witte wrote: Ive been fiddling with a program of mine, wondering why I cant make it work. The problem boils down to the following: The code below does exactly what it should, EXCEPT the first time it is run! To test it do the following: (You need ptrmen, the EasyPointer [EP] toolkit, loaded). Fire up a SB daughter job (the example expects at least two QL windows #0 #1.) LOAD the program, type run and then press and hold ENTER or the RMB (ie DO) to execute. The first time it runs it displays Key up although a key is actually down! You need to release the key and then depress it again to get the correct result. Subsequent execution also gives the right result. To reset it, you need to start it in a pristine SB job again (ie one that has not yet had its OUTLine set). I suspect the problem lies with the PI rather than EP. Its annoying because it prevents some fine tweaking of a user interface Im working on - and because its just plain wrong. Ive spent more time than I can afford on trying to work around the problem, to no avail. Any ideas? Per 1 DIM pv%(15) 2 x% = -1: y% = -1 3 mv% = 1 + 2 + 4 4 : 5 OUTL#0 6 CLS 7 RDPT#0; 48, x%, y% 8 : 9 PRINT; 'HIT or DO. ESC to quit' 10 : 11 REPeat loop 12 RDPT#0; mv%, x%, y%: PVAL#0; pv% 13 AT 2,0 14 IF pv%(7) 4: PRINT 'key up',: ELSE : PRINT 'key down', 15 IF pv%(6) = 27: EXIT loop 16 END REPeat loop 17 : ___ This looks like the trouble I had with the resizing by outline program. When the second program starts, although I am holding down the mouse button, the PE software does not acknowledge this. I had to test first for a mouse button being down. Once the PE software accepts this then I can test for button up. George Exactly! So much for drag'n drop on the QL. Bummer ;o( Another pity is that the so called Window Request (bit #7 set in termination vector) only allows a limited number of pointer sprites to be used (move, resize and empty window). It would have been nice to be able to use any sprite, thus allowing, for example, a sprite (representing some object) to be dragged from one window and dropped on another. When I retire in about 2025 I'll take a look at these issues ;o) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Pointer test
I do custom sprites for copy and moving with QDT, using the different pointer routines. Maybe not usable from within an existing call but doable. jim On 25-Jan-09, at 1:14 PM, P Witte wrote: gdgqler wrote: On 25 Jan 2009, at 13:18, P Witte wrote: Ive been fiddling with a program of mine, wondering why I cant make it work. The problem boils down to the following: The code below does exactly what it should, EXCEPT the first time it is run! To test it do the following: (You need ptrmen, the EasyPointer [EP] toolkit, loaded). Fire up a SB daughter job (the example expects at least two QL windows #0 #1.) LOAD the program, type run and then press and hold ENTER or the RMB (ie DO) to execute. The first time it runs it displays Key up although a key is actually down! You need to release the key and then depress it again to get the correct result. Subsequent execution also gives the right result. To reset it, you need to start it in a pristine SB job again (ie one that has not yet had its OUTLine set). I suspect the problem lies with the PI rather than EP. Its annoying because it prevents some fine tweaking of a user interface Im working on - and because its just plain wrong. Ive spent more time than I can afford on trying to work around the problem, to no avail. Any ideas? Per 1 DIM pv%(15) 2 x% = -1: y% = -1 3 mv% = 1 + 2 + 4 4 : 5 OUTL#0 6 CLS 7 RDPT#0; 48, x%, y% 8 : 9 PRINT; 'HIT or DO. ESC to quit' 10 : 11 REPeat loop 12 RDPT#0; mv%, x%, y%: PVAL#0; pv% 13 AT 2,0 14 IF pv%(7) 4: PRINT 'key up',: ELSE : PRINT 'key down', 15 IF pv%(6) = 27: EXIT loop 16 END REPeat loop 17 : ___ This looks like the trouble I had with the resizing by outline program. When the second program starts, although I am holding down the mouse button, the PE software does not acknowledge this. I had to test first for a mouse button being down. Once the PE software accepts this then I can test for button up. George Exactly! So much for drag'n drop on the QL. Bummer ;o( Another pity is that the so called Window Request (bit #7 set in termination vector) only allows a limited number of pointer sprites to be used (move, resize and empty window). It would have been nice to be able to use any sprite, thus allowing, for example, a sprite (representing some object) to be dragged from one window and dropped on another. When I retire in about 2025 I'll take a look at these issues ;o) Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Online Quanta Subscriptions
If your home computer is on the network, a password on your account can help decrease the possibility of a remote user/virus program from changing critical parts of your system. It all depends on the OS and how it is set up of coarse. In other words, the password doesn't only protect you from other nefarious people in your own house :) but more importantly from remote unauthorized users who can hack into your system by various methods. jim On 4-Jan-09, at 12:16 PM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message 4960c5ed.3020...@dunbar-it.co.uk, Norman Dunbar nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk writes Dilwyn Jones wrote: pretty sure it wasn't any fault of Jochen's site, althouth the site did want to place a cookie on my computer that IE was blocking because I had opted for strict security settings at the time. Sorry, IE wouldn't know strict security if it leapt up and bit it on the backside! ;-) IE is 'part of' Windows (or so we are led to think by Bill) and as such, suffers from Windows own security problems. There is no security on a system which, since XP at least, has defaulted the one user with full admin rights to have no password and doesn't actually mention this fact in the user 'manual'. I have no experience of Vista, but my boss does and he says that it is still passwordless. Duh! Hi Norman, Happy New Year everyone. Happy New Year too ... Is it really not secure to have no password entrance to use a computer that is for personal use ? It is only with the advance of networked systems that password entrance have become the norm. Yet, it is not necessary for a single user home computer - even though I have configured Win XP on my personal PC with a password entrance. Even though no one else ever uses it ! -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] quanta website and membership question
Thanks - that works and explains why I missed it. Normally on web sites I think that most people see changing 'banners' to be simply that, a kind of add or banner. The overall site looks very clean now but I would personally recommend changing this to be a clear and static set of links, perhaps in a box for membership or something. Just a comment to try to help but I am now set up. Thanks for the quick response! jim On 3-Jan-09, at 11:06 AM, matras...@aol.com wrote: HI Jim, have just been there and done that. The link to paypal is on the left of the screen above the column of 8 links in blue boxes. The first link says : Quanta Home? In firefox it appears as an animation that cycles through buy now , Quanta , Renew your subscription and site to the left of the text Download Nomination Forms There is nothing on the site to tell you of your subscription status. I checked mine by asking John Gilpin by email. Regards Duncan -Original Message- From: James Hunkins j...@jdh-stech.com To: ql-us...@q-v-d.com Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 15:53 Subject: [Ql-Users] quanta website and membership question I have been reading the emails about renewing on the website so I took a look (haven't been on the Quanta site for a while).? ? Where do you find the membership renewal on it - I could not find it (either I am blind which is possible some days or it needs a more obvious pointer for people to find the renewal form)?? ? Also, is there a way to check on one's current membership status?? ? Thanks,? jim? ? ___? QL-Users Mailing List? http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm? AOL Email goes Mobile! You can now read your AOL Emails whilst on the move. Sign up for a free AOL Email account with unlimited storage today. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] I must test, No traffic my way for 2 weeks
With QPC2, you just define the country in the set up and the keyboard matches. In the USA, by setting this the keyboard is the North American one automatically. jim On 3-Oct-08, at 10:51 AM, Bill Loguidice wrote: We're talking about a modern keyboard, right, not a North American QL? We have all the slashes \/, otherwise we'd have a hard time getting on the Internet... = Bill Loguidice, Managing Director Armchair Arcade, Inc. http://www.armchairarcade.com A PC Magazine Top 100 Website = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Gwilt Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ql-Users] I must test, No traffic my way for 2 weeks On 3 Oct 2008, at 15:38, Bill Loguidice wrote: We don't have a British Pound symbol (was the C-64 the last keyboard in the US to have that?), but we certainly have a \. I can't imagine any other major modern day differences. We have the $ sign above the 4 key, so I would assume that you have the British Pound symbol above the same, no? I wouldn't dare try for a British Pound in NY NY. It must have been the other slash. One of / \. George ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Sprites
I am also doing things with this stuff too so any item being clarified will help. jim On Mar 13, 2008, at 9:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Wolfgang, OK, I had a look at it. It seems that the sprite definition is not quite correct: blank_sprite dc.w 1,0 this should be $0100, 0 I think. SNIP Not sure whether that really is important now. Well it might save me problems when I get around to discussing sprites and pointers in my articles - so thanks. And maybe Rich will appreciate it as well! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Falling Cursor
Hi Marcel, Below is a log of the capture movie. I can forward the movie to you directly if it would help - 24k compressed. It shows the activity very well. Just let me know. 24k? That would be pretty small ;) I guess you mean 24M, but that should be okay for my mailbox, too. 24K compressed, original is 200K - not much happening and captured as an animation so with minimal colors, very compact. 5.13 FPS, only 1 min 12 sec of time. Will send it direct to you. As to your comment about how QDT is design overall - I totally agree with the concept. You DO know that QDT is YOUR product? ;-) Sure glad I don't get confused. And that I think my product is good in concept (by the way, just starting to get back into it - working on the File Object again but taking a while to remember where I left off before the accident). And I also agree with the concept for QPC :) - when running 'normal' code, run at full speed possible Well, could you define the term normal code for me? Running a user program = normal code versus an OS which is often just sitting and waiting for something to happen with minimal activity. One trap on the normal code side, any calls to sleep the code temporarily or some other form of polling needs to really pause it activity as one would expect. Was wondering in this latter case if possibly the polled interrupt might not be cleared properly when the mouse is moving causing the system to re-trigger immediately thinking that the last interrupt is still there? No, the 100% CPU usage has nothing to do with the polled-interrupt whatsoever. When the mouse is moved, the CPU throttle is disabled, nothing more, nothing less. This was a decision made a long time ago and certainly right for the time, with todays CPUs one could think about a permanent throttle for example, but well, that would be work ;-) When you first developed QDT (I remember the DOS version) it definitely made sense. But as you said, for today's CPU power, I really don't need to be polling for mouse/keyboard/interrupts 4 million times a second :) Wish I could work that fast. Perhaps there could be an option to run all out (for slower systems) versus putting the cursor/keyboard/etc onto a polling/interrupt type control for faster systems? Jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Falling Cursor
Hi Marcel, I just did a movie capture showing both the QL clock display (the common pointer based one) and the cursor speed. I have captured it at normal speeds, stalling out, then running very slow, then taking off and then going back to normal. Below is a log of the capture movie. I can forward the movie to you directly if it would help - 24k compressed. It shows the activity very well. Just let me know. Your prior comments got me thinking about it. The watching it over time seems to hide it somewhat, at least with mine as it did catch up. I also seem to notice that sometimes different activity can change how often it happens (plus or minus) - during the SBASIC program you sent out, I wasn't reproducing the variations for some reason. Please see my comments at the bottom of the movie logging below for what it feels to be happening. - As to your comment about how QDT is design overall - I totally agree with the concept. - when running 'normal' code, run at full speed possible - amazing how fast it can run on my system - when idle (or just moving the mouse?), use the timer polling to determine when to check for mouse position and respond on the screen - should work well without tying up all the system resources, at least for just moving the cursor around Obviously from my capture, at least in my case there is something going wrong with the timer polling method used which varies quite a bit. Normally if it was working I would expect it to be using my system resources quite well. The idle or mouse movement though; I can not imagine why that would use up 100% of my CPU resources, especially if it is just sampling 50x a minute. I know that I don't need a 2.66 CPU to check and move the cursor, even with the layers involved between OSs. Was wondering in this latter case if possibly the polled interrupt might not be cleared properly when the mouse is moving causing the system to re-trigger immediately thinking that the last interrupt is still there? ___ Another question for the repeated keys - can't remember which version of Windows that was being reported on. I do remember that with Windows 98 there was a bug in the OS that was patched but was timing dependent. Once in a long, blue moon I would find either a double key entry or a control type key combination would get stuck (on or off). And when running on an emulator such as Virtual PC, it was fairly frequent. I don't recall if Windows 2000 cleared it up but I think it was better but not fixed. The problem was completely fixed by Microsoft for Windows XP and it has never given me problems. Jim === Movie Logging Clock vs. Cursor 30 frames per second capture - set capture rate (real time playback) clock showing hour:min:sec (not covered) checking cursor speed in SBASIC window versus clock speed 57:53 starts normal, clock and mouse 58:12 nothing happening so open FileManager to try to affect - moved mouse 58:12 clock stalls for several seconds during FileManager window drawing, movement 58:12 stalls during FM being displayed (not always, just this time) - even when not moving FM, might have had mouse movement (?) 58:13 started up again but running super slow - clock and mouse 58:19 takes off (clock and mouse) 58:43 back to normal Looks as if something is taking extra long (stuck in loops, other unexpected activity?) during slow time but that the system remembers up to so many interrupts and catches up at some point. It isn't tied to a system event; just seems to start up and then clear out on its own (IE: random triggered and takes a while to shift back to normal - some kind of race condition?). ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
My QPC clock seems to be fine in my case. Just the cursor occasionally running at reasonable speed and then at times taking off super fast flashing. I remember when we were playing around with the power saver and I don't see much difference if any when things are enabled when it is idle mode versus not. And my processors are very, very fast. Even with QPC using the polled interrupt, I can't imagine it using 100% of a CPUs band width unless it is running code without any pauses. Still think that there is something funky about the method you are using to 'sleep' QPC in between activity (funky on the Windows side, not yours :) ). Or perhaps there is something about the polled interrupts in different cases. jim On Jan 9, 2008, at 7:04 AM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: James Hunkins wrote: The problem is that the CPU meter is pegging and it kills my laptop battery. On my office computer I don't care. That is not a bug, it's a feature. Previously QPC used 100% all the time, only when I introduced the power saving option it throttles the CPU emulations when SMSQ/E is idle. Looking at this test code I am guessing that Marcel is verifying that the time clock function in QPC is reporting as expected, which I am guessing that it is. The code times the 50hz polled interrupt. However it uses the SMSQ/E clock to do so. Can you all check whether the SMSQ/E clock runs at a normal speed? Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Thanks all - it was the suggested imported tabs which became special characters and messed up the procedure definitions. Will test more tonight and report. jim On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:49 AM, James Hunkins wrote: Tried running it and it listed the lines with these procedures as mistakes. It sounds like you have a toolkit or something that I don't have on my system. I am running the latest QPC beta release. jim On Jan 8, 2008, at 1:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Jan 2008 at 23:29, James Hunkins wrote: I don't have PW or PL commands on my system so this fails to run. jim Neither do I, but I believe that these are basic procs defined in the program itself. Running it on QPC2 under windows gives me 49 or 50. I'll test tonight under Wine. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
I get nearly all 50s after the first few startups. And I do see my CPU meter peg maximum while running this, just the same as if I am moving the cursor around the screen (idle mode it stays around 25-33%, Windows by itself is 5% in idle. jim On Jan 8, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote: Evening Marcel, Could you (and anybody else having increased cursor blink frequency) run this Basic program? Tell me what values it's printing (47 to 50 is normal). Ok, managed to get it to run quite happily - couldn't type it in though, too many foibles with the keyboard. Created a file in ~/.wine/ dosdevices and loaded it from dos1_ - worked a charm and no problems with the PW or PL procedures. Anyway, I ran it and the results were : 3 (yes, three!) 50 48 49 43 49 50 50 38 and so on. There were quite a few 50s turned up after about 30 or 40 repetitions, then after a few dozen of those, it started varying again. The first run was a 3 that is ot a typo. I have just run it again and it started with 40, then repeated 50 a few dozen times before I CTRL-SPACEd it. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
The problem is that the CPU meter is pegging and it kills my laptop battery. On my office computer I don't care. I do not have this problem with any other Windows program. My case may be special as I run QPC in Windows XP but in a virtual machine on a Mac. I had the same problem with it back when it was the VirtualPC emulator. I see the cursor occasionally behave itself and then often just take off. Marcel and I have discussed this briefly before and it would seem that the pause mechanism that he uses between cursor updates/ pointer checks, etc. is handled differently on different systems. We even tried extending the delay period and it seemed to have no affect. Looking at this test code I am guessing that Marcel is verifying that the time clock function in QPC is reporting as expected, which I am guessing that it is. jim On Jan 9, 2008, at 12:49 AM, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: On 8 Jan 2008 at 21:18, James Hunkins wrote: And I do see my CPU meter peg maximum while running this, just the same as if I am moving the cursor around the screen (idle mode it stays around 25-33%, Windows by itself is 5% in idle. It does that under a normal Windows, too, so that doesn't mean anything. Wolfgang ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Was that just the cursor or were you moving a full window? jim On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Morning Jim, The problem is that the CPU meter is pegging and it kills my laptop battery. On my office computer I don't care. I've just plugged QPC into my work PC running Windows 2000 - with QPC sitting there doing nothing the CPU is fine. When I simply move the move across the display, CPU flat lines at 100% - so your set up is not likely to be the cause. Better get it unplugged now - I'll get shot for having unauthorised devices plugged in! Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
I don't have PW or PL commands on my system so this fails to run. jim On Jan 7, 2008, at 8:06 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much faster than on Windows. On a very unscientific test, I counted about 20 cursor on-off cycles in about 8 seconds. Could you (and anybody else having increased cursor blink frequency) run this Basic program? Tell me what values it's printing (47 to 50 is normal). 100 Init 110 a = DATE 120 REPeat 130 IF DATE a THEN 140 PRINT PEEK(Base + $30) 150 POKE Base + $30,0 160 a = DATE 170 END IF 180 END REPeat 990 : 1000 DEFine PROCedure Init 1010 IF Base = 0 THEN 1020 Base = ALCHP(400) 1030 Offset = 0 1040 PW $2F0E 1050 PW $701C 1060 PW $207C: PL Base + $16 1070 PW $2C7C: PL $28000 1080 PW $4E41 1090 PW $2C5F 1100 PW $4E75 1110 PL $0 1120 PL Base + $1E 1130 PW $5239: PL Base + $30 1140 PW $4E75 1150 CALL Base 1160 END IF 1170 END DEFine 1180 : 1190 DEFine PROCedure PW(V) 1200 POKE_W Base + Offset,V 1210 Offset = Offset + 2 1220 END DEFine 1230 : 1240 DEFine PROCedure PL(V) 1250 POKE_L Base + Offset,V 1260 Offset = Offset + 4 1270 END DEFine Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [Ql-Users] Windows, Linux and QPC
Hi Marcel, This fast curser blink sounds like the same problem that I get running QPC under XP in a virtual Windows machine in OS-X. At times, the cursor goes nuts while other times it slows down to a reasonable speed. I also notice that when I move the cursor around the CPU pegs out at maximum usage - and it is a pretty powerful CPU. jim On Jan 6, 2008, at 7:54 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Norman Dunbar wrote: OK, so get 0.9.52 Version 0.9.52 obtained and installed. QPC runs, slowly, and still gives repeating characters - but not all the time. It is now workable - sort of. Hmm. Even on my trusty P3-600 server over a virtual VNC X session over a WLAN link QPC ran pretty usable when I just tried it. So this is probably not entirely normal. PAUSE 50 - only pauses a very brief time. PAUSE 60*5 - ditto. Very strange but fits with the repeated characters (clock ticking much too fast so SMSQ/E goes into auto-repeat within milliseconds instead of seconds). How fast does the cursor blink? And, DIR FLP1_ doesn't work - for obvious reasons - The floppy in the drive will not auto mount even though /etc/fstab says to do so, because the file system on the floppy is not registered under Linux. The mount command won't let it be mounted with any known filesystem as our beloved QL5A file system is not known. QPC needs RAW sector access to read/write floppies. Not sure whether WINE emulates this at all and cannot test as my server doesn't have a floppy drive. When I start QPC up and configure the image as win2_ it is not able to read it. WIN is in QLWA, not QL5A format. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] New here....
The only problem that I have had with qxl.win was when I had a drive (IE: win1_, win2_) space that was nearly full. If I added, deleted or modified too many files it could get very fragmented and suddenly run out of 'room' even though it showed enough left. To solve that I normally would do a copy command (the C68 copy), tell it to include subdirectories, and copy to a different win drive and then copy it back. That would clean it up 100%. I never noticed much top level fragmentation speed impact. I found that if I reserved enough empty space on a drive, I totally avoid the fragmentation issue. Don't know if this has been improved with the SMSQE updates but I haven't hit it for a few years now. jim On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:12 PM, P Witte wrote: Marcel Kilgus writes: While I'm writing anyway, some comments to another topic: of course QXL.WIN files can fragment like pretty much all other file systems (some more, some less, but basically all have the problem). But QXL.WIN files are virtual anyway, so even if the data within the drives is not fragmented, the Windows file still can be. I can understand that a qxl.win container file could get fragmented during creation. But do you mean that the container file can get fragmenbted on the Windoze side by file operations on the QL side too? On the QXL the container files were attributed as system files and, if I understand correctly, were therefore left alone by the defragger. Presumably they didnt fragment Windoze side either as according to the pretty graphs in Defrag, they remain a solid block and in place. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] c68 guide for one who wants to know.
On Dave's web site there is a tutorial for the QPtr environment as one of the downloads. jim On Feb 21, 2007, at 8:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: under the C68 programming environment. Is there a Tutotorial on the subject? There have been a coupls of 'introductions' to C68 in recent years. None of them seemed to continue beyond the initial episode. Mind you, I don't remember if this was intended to be a series (similar to say my Assembly language or Herb's Graphics) in QL Toady, or not. Do i need to buy back issues of QL Toady or is there an idiots guide already out there? Also, Is there a fast way of checking what version of C68 I I don't think it is worth your while trying to buy back issues of QL Toadt for a C68 Tutorial, but it might be very useful for other stuff ! I don't know/Can't remember how to find out the C68 version at present. With all the Assembly I've been doing, my C68 skills, not that I had many, are sadly slipping away Dave Walker's web site is the best place to go for C68, he's at : http://homepage.ntlworld.com/itimpi/index.htm And the latest version there seems to be 4.24f. Cheers, Norman. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] setting qptr to a window
When I do the pulldown call it sets up the dropdown menu as a sub- window. I verified this by getting the returned channel from a set to the window _wm.swinf) from the call and doing a clear. It cleared the sub-window (loose item) of the drop down menu properly so PE does see it properly. The issue here is that when I try a printf after setting to the sub- window, the printf doesn't seem to recognize this and defaults to the original owner window - generic (upper left hand corner). If I do the same routine from the primary window, printf does pick up the redirection to the loose item. It seems as if Printf may be broken in this case or, of course, I may be missing something. By the way, the chan number does indicate the correct ownership for each sub window within the drop down menu. jim On 13-Nov-06, at 7:36 AM, P Witte wrote: James Hunkins writes: In C68 when I set things to a window using wm.swinf or wm.swapp, any printf statement after that goes into the proper window within my app. When I do a drop down menu (window), doing the same call and clearing the window with the returned channel works just fine. But when I do another printf, the text ends up at the 0,0 location in the primary (owner) window, not in the drop down menu area at all or any sub-window element. Any idea what is going on and how I can write to a info window within a drop down menu? I want to do some information updates quickly while copies and things are happening. (Jim probably knows most of the below already ;o) but others wont.) Its probably happening because a sub-window is not really a fully- fledged window, with its own channel no. etc. You need to make the window think it is the sub-window. There is a call to do this. In EasyPtr for S*Basic the one call MWINDOW does this for all elements. In C look for a routine called something like WM_SWDEF. Other calls, such as WM_SWLIT and WM_SWSEC, set the window to the size of a LI or a sub-window menu section respectively. (These routine names are taken from EP's C library). Ive noticed that PE sometimes gets in a muddle (I always thought this was an EP peculiarity, but perhaps it isnt). Certain actions and errors seem to reset the window (eg malformed windows, window or element too large, writing to a different element in between writes,..). You could also try to re-assert the setting each time just before you print to the window. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] setting qptr to a window
Guys, In C68 when I set things to a window using wm.swinf or wm.swapp, any printf statement after that goes into the proper window within my app. When I do a drop down menu (window), doing the same call and clearing the window with the returned channel works just fine. But when I do another printf, the text ends up at the 0,0 location in the primary (owner) window, not in the drop down menu area at all or any sub-window element. Any idea what is going on and how I can write to a info window within a drop down menu? I want to do some information updates quickly while copies and things are happening. Thanks for the help, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fw: Re: Niagara Show update HOT DAWG!!!!!!!!!! (?)
Great - see you there! jim On 22-Sep-06, at 9:41 AM, extdgl42 wrote: OK, formally reserved. See everyone (excuse me, that's y'all , another good Southernism) there. Unless I sober up when I actually get around to calculating the distance. Reminds me of the German relatives of friend Dita who visited the US figuring, oh, they'd drive from East TN to California in a day or so ... cross country as they did in Europe. Doug (LaVerne) 37830 USA ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QLer ages
I have been 38 for well over a decade. So if you add each time I was 38 up as individual entries and divide, does that kind of force the average age towards 38? Marcel - don't even think about commenting here... jim On 13-Sep-06, at 1:54 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: Neil Riley wrote: On a similar subject, whats the average age of you guys... Don't lie, I've seen the pictures :-) as a starter for ten, I was born the year we last won the world cup so the average currently stands at 40, any advance ! :-p 60 Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] bug in qlib_h C68 support file
Guys, I think that I found a bug in the qlib_h include file used by C68. Here are the details: In the 'qdirect' structure, the member 'd_name' is defined as: char d_name[36]; This works as long as the directory/file name is 35 or fewer characters and holds a properly terminated C string (terminates with a '0'). However, if the total name length is actually 36 characters, then there is no termination. As far as I can tell the structure does properly hold everything and isn't corrupt, just no termination in that one case. This might explain why in a few problems with long file names, I see handling problems but not in others (compiled in C68 versus assembly or compiled SBASIC for example?). If I am correct this structure should define it as: char d_name[37]; to allow room for the termination character of a C string. Jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] bug in qlib_h C68 support file
Hi Guys,
Three things were fooling me:
1) I was calling this using a C function so I 'assumed' that it was
converting to C strings
2) when I grab the string, if under 36 characters, it always seems to
have a 0 termination at the end
[ assembly might be right filling the string with this ]
3) I do not see the first values at the start of the string for length
- I can handle this as a C string and have no garbage at the
beginning and it terminates properly if 36 chars
The way I am using this is:
DIR_LIST_t *tFileList;
GetFileType(tFileList-dl_dir.d_name); /* calling
function */
short GetFileType(char *FileName)
{
printf(FileName: [%s]\n, FileName); /* this prints
out the
filename just fine if 36 chars */
}
Unless I am missing something, it seems that the C call (haven't had
time to dig up the source file yet) does at last a partial conversion
from the QDOS structure. Whether it on purpose adds the termination
for items 36 chars or not, don't know.
With that said, going to take a break outside now that the rain has
'stopped' for a bit (3 day weekend, last of summer = rain).
Cheers,
jim
On Sep 4, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Dave Walker wrote:
James,
The header is correct - it defines a memory structure in QDOS, not a
structure designed for use with C. As such the definition is
fixed and
cannot be changed. You will find that under QDOS all strings are
preceded
by a 2-byte field that defines the length of the following string, and
strings are not zero-terminated. When programming in C one should
always
therefore take account of this, and make sure that you use the length
limiting variants of copies and moves as you cannot assume a zero
termination to such strings.
It can be advantageous to look at the .hdr versions of the header
files
supplied on one of the source disks.These include comments
which can
make the files much easier to peruse. You can also rename them
and put
them in place of the supplied .h files which have been processed to
remove
all comments and formatting to reduce their size for those using
floppy
based systems. Those using hard disk based systems are better off
using the
commented versions
Dave
.
- Original Message -
From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [ql-users] bug in qlib_h C68 support file
Guys,
I think that I found a bug in the qlib_h include file used by C68.
Here are the details:
In the 'qdirect' structure, the member 'd_name' is defined as:
char d_name[36];
This works as long as the directory/file name is 35 or fewer
characters and holds a properly terminated C string (terminates with
a '0'). However, if the total name length is actually 36 characters,
then there is no termination. As far as I can tell the structure
does properly hold everything and isn't corrupt, just no termination
in that one case.
This might explain why in a few problems with long file names, I see
handling problems but not in others (compiled in C68 versus assembly
or compiled SBASIC for example?).
If I am correct this structure should define it as:
char d_name[37];
to allow room for the termination character of a C string.
Jim
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Re: [ql-users] bug in qlib_h C68 support file
That was the piece that I was missing - thanks.
My code is corrected to translate the string first before passing it.
Thanks for the quick responses everyone!
jim
On 4-Sep-06, at 1:44 PM, Dave Walker wrote:
James,
QDOS strings in C68 are normally represented by 2 fields as follows:
unsigned short d_szname; /* size of name */
char d_name[36]; /* name area */
the first being a short with the length, and the next being a char field
with the contents. In your case it is actually working by 'luck' in
that
QDOS tends to zero fill the unused space.This is however not
guaranteed
behaviour, and as you noted your code will fail if the name is the
maximum
allowed. If you wanted to write bullet-proof C code you would use the
preceeding length field (d_szname) to tell you how much is valid in the
d_name field. Also the QDOS format allows for 0 characters to be
part of
the name, and again with your code this would fail as it would assume
the 0
byte was the name terminator rather than part of the name itself.
Dave
- Original Message -
From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [ql-users] bug in qlib_h C68 support file
Hi Guys,
Three things were fooling me:
1) I was calling this using a C function so I 'assumed' that it was
converting to C strings
2) when I grab the string, if under 36 characters, it always seems to
have a 0 termination at the end
[ assembly might be right filling the string with this ]
3) I do not see the first values at the start of the string for length
- I can handle this as a C string and have no garbage at the
beginning and it terminates properly if 36 chars
The way I am using this is:
DIR_LIST_t *tFileList;
GetFileType(tFileList-dl_dir.d_name); /* calling function */
short GetFileType(char *FileName)
{
printf(FileName: [%s]\n, FileName); /* this prints out the
filename just fine if 36 chars */
}
Unless I am missing something, it seems that the C call (haven't had
time to dig up the source file yet) does at last a partial conversion
from the QDOS structure. Whether it on purpose adds the termination
for items 36 chars or not, don't know.
With that said, going to take a break outside now that the rain has
'stopped' for a bit (3 day weekend, last of summer = rain).
Cheers,
jim
On Sep 4, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Dave Walker wrote:
James,
The header is correct - it defines a memory structure in QDOS, not a
structure designed for use with C. As such the definition is
fixed and
cannot be changed. You will find that under QDOS all strings are
preceded
by a 2-byte field that defines the length of the following string,
and
strings are not zero-terminated. When programming in C one should
always
therefore take account of this, and make sure that you use the length
limiting variants of copies and moves as you cannot assume a zero
termination to such strings.
It can be advantageous to look at the .hdr versions of the header
files
supplied on one of the source disks.These include comments
which can
make the files much easier to peruse. You can also rename them
and put
them in place of the supplied .h files which have been processed to
remove
all comments and formatting to reduce their size for those using
floppy
based systems. Those using hard disk based systems are better off
using the
commented versions
Dave
.
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From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [ql-users] bug in qlib_h C68 support file
Guys,
I think that I found a bug in the qlib_h include file used by C68.
Here are the details:
In the 'qdirect' structure, the member 'd_name' is defined as:
char d_name[36];
This works as long as the directory/file name is 35 or fewer
characters and holds a properly terminated C string (terminates with
a '0'). However, if the total name length is actually 36
characters,
then there is no termination. As far as I can tell the structure
does properly hold everything and isn't corrupt, just no termination
in that one case.
This might explain why in a few problems with long file names, I see
handling problems but not in others (compiled in C68 versus assembly
or compiled SBASIC for example?).
If I am correct this structure should define it as:
char d_name[37];
to allow room for the termination character of a C string.
Jim
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Re: [ql-users] North American QL Show Saturday September 30th 2006
Hi Urs, Would be great if you can make it. Has been too long since I have seen you and the others. For anyone wanting to spend the week in Toronto, will be happy to help with tourist information and possibly host a separate dinner at my house some time. jim On Jul 18, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Bill Cable wrote: Hi Urs, I hope you can make it. As Marcel said you can stay entirely in Canada and avoid the hassles of crossing into the US if you wish. I am keeping a list of expected attendees so let me know if you decide to come. -- Bill On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, Koenig Urs wrote: Yes, a one week trip to Toronto, Niagara would be great fun. My last QL show was QL2004 in Eindhoven, my last US show was Orlando in 2004. Right now it's fifti-fifti if I can make it... Urs Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] im Auftrag von Tony Firshman Gesendet: Di 18.07.2006 20:52 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [ql-users] North American QL Show Saturday September 30th 2006 Koenig Urs wrote: I leave for summer holidays on Friday. Question: Who else of the Europeans will attend the American Show? You mean other than Roy and I, I assume. Are you thinking of coming? Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://firshman.co.uk http:// firshman.co.uk/ Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 Skype: tonyfirshman TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] leaked email address - contact address forjdh-stech.com
Did the same suggested google search - nothing. The address that I referred to is an address that I own under my business web location - no way it was sold. The only way it is displayed on the site is in a special graphic that can not be machine read. And if a viewer clicks on the link to send an email, it goes through an encrypted Java routine - super unlikely anyone has bothered to crack it. The spam isn't too bad but considering I only get one or so official use of this address every several months, it is plainly a bother. My intention on this email was hopefully to notify anyone who might have used it to be sure to check their system. Pretty much the only way it could get out, other than an occasional feeler now and then is if it was grabbed from someone's mail or contacts info. Cheers, jim On Jun 18, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Jeremy Taffel wrote: hitchies wrote: Jim - bad luck; and you are not on my lists. :-) Tony: Re - Best way to check is to Google for your literal email address Go on. Tell the uninatiated (like me). Please. ;-) Yours gargling and gurgling, but not googling, John in Wales I receive a large amount of spam at my primary ntlworld address (150/day) - the spam started before I'd even used the address, so I suspect that ntl sell their lists of primary addresses. I've since decided to make it my sacrificial spam address, and use it exclusively for signing onto sites that require a registration email address. I'm not sure how useful Tony's advice is - a google search fails to find anything on the web with that particular address. Jeremy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] leaked email address - contact address forjdh-stech.com
By the way, that is a terribly high amount. It sounds like there is no spam filtration from your service provider plus the addresses are 'released'. Most spam today can easily and reliably be filtered at the mail host sites. The only times that I have heard of a problem is with a few that over do the filtering. I have never run into that in all my years on the internet but I also tend to avoid the ultra cheap providers. jim On Jun 18, 2006, at 6:57 PM, Jeremy Taffel wrote: hitchies wrote: Jim - bad luck; and you are not on my lists. :-) Tony: Re - Best way to check is to Google for your literal email address Go on. Tell the uninatiated (like me). Please. ;-) Yours gargling and gurgling, but not googling, John in Wales I receive a large amount of spam at my primary ntlworld address (150/day) - the spam started before I'd even used the address, so I suspect that ntl sell their lists of primary addresses. I've since decided to make it my sacrificial spam address, and use it exclusively for signing onto sites that require a registration email address. I'm not sure how useful Tony's advice is - a google search fails to find anything on the web with that particular address. Jeremy ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] leaked email address - contact address for jdh-stech.com
It would seem that, regardless of the fact that my contact @ email address for my QDT software web pages is not mineable, it has ended up on someone's junk mail list big time. Normally this happens because the address would have gotten into someone's mail address book or previous address info who has a virus or spyware program mining their information. I will be modifying the address in the next week or two and disconnecting the old one to stop the flood. In the meantime, anyone who may have used this address, please make sure that you have (and continue) checked your system for viruses and spyware. It is just annoying to me but I can imagine those with email addresses that are not so easy to change are really at an inconvenience. Thanks, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT updates on line
Are you going to have anything to transfer the pictures to? We could also use my laptop and burn you CDs. jim On Feb 11, 2006, at 4:14 AM, James Hunkins wrote: I have taken my QDT updates web page on line. You can now download the demo and updates. http://jdh-stech.com/QDT/downloads.html The current release is 1.02r. If you have 1.01r already installed, this downloaded update will work for you. If you have an older version, please request a full install version from either your distributer or send an email with the info as described at: http://jdh-stech.com/QDT/qdt.html#Updates Please use the link at that location for the email request. This is the bug fix and load speed up that I recently referred to. The installer has also been modified to check version numbers and prompt for input if things are a bit off. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT updates on line
Sorry, this went here by accident. jim On Feb 14, 2006, at 9:15 AM, James Hunkins wrote: Are you going to have anything to transfer the pictures to? We could also use my laptop and burn you CDs. jim On Feb 11, 2006, at 4:14 AM, James Hunkins wrote: I have taken my QDT updates web page on line. You can now download the demo and updates. http://jdh-stech.com/QDT/downloads.html The current release is 1.02r. If you have 1.01r already installed, this downloaded update will work for you. If you have an older version, please request a full install version from either your distributer or send an email with the info as described at: http://jdh-stech.com/QDT/qdt.html#Updates Please use the link at that location for the email request. This is the bug fix and load speed up that I recently referred to. The installer has also been modified to check version numbers and prompt for input if things are a bit off. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Reverse engineering
On Jan 16, 2006, at 7:11 AM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: In some cases this might also include a method of doing something (IE: software patents). Fortunately enough software patents are still an US problem only (mostly, the EU patent office regularly tries to grant sort-of software patents, but they are basically unenforceable in most countries). Though the industry is lobbying hard in Brussels to change this fact, but the last advance was actually put down by the European Parliament. For once they did their job. There is a big push in the States against software patents in general. An uphill battle but I don't mind helping with the push. jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Cueshell
No pressure, eh? QDT's file manager is progressing steadily along. Hopefully around Christmas or the first of the year I can do a release with the first version. Now to go pull out my copy of Cueshell and do a feature compare :) Jim Cueshell is simply the most powerful (and under-appreciated) file manager the QL has ever seen (so far, let's see what Jim comes up with ;-) Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] email address Phil Borman
Often a damaged file on a USB drive is because the drive was removed before the file was completely copied to it. Or the system was powered off. Some drives have a flashing LED to indicate when it is being written to. I use this feature to verify that it is safe to remove the USB drive. jim On Nov 24, 2005, at 3:58 PM, Ralf Reköndt wrote: Today, I received the long awaited USB Diskdrive. Works good, unfortunately, it takes a second ore two until it reacts after each command. A few disks seem to be damaged (not with all files) but I hope the best. SPK built files (just tried QL.Gardener) seem not to run under the QPCdemo (but ran unter ST!). Will look after all sources. But transfer of all QL files from my ST are more important. I try to do my best. Cheers...Ralf R. - Original Message - From: Dilwyn Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] email address Phil Borman As a regular user of S-Edit, Ralf, I really want to see a larger window and Move option in it. I will expect to receive it before the end of the year, OK ;-) -- Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] menus - more than 1 line of text?
Interesting - explains why some of my experiments didn't make a difference. George, I am already using your idea of having two menu items to display both the text and an icon for the entry. I can get away with it visually with this kind of split but for a text line split, as you put it, looks actually worse than silly. Since there isn't a clean and quick way of doing this, I will continue and manually position and add the text whenever a menu location gets updated. Almost done with that anyway. Also, George, as to your suggestion about the time delayed hint window, I will be doing that somewhere else and may use it here. But it will be used when the entry is greater than three lines long :) Cheers, jim On Nov 24, 2005, at 10:01 AM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: James Hunkins wrote: Currently if a line is wider that the menu location, it simply truncates the line, even though I have enough room for three lines and have everything left, top centered. I tried putting manual line returns (0x0a) into the line and they were ignored. Well, the standard WMAN routine specifically checks for new lines in the text and truncates it there. Of course I know nothing about the reasons for this... Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] unzip and signal extensions
By the way, before anyone suggests the obvious on this, I know that it is simple to load the signal extensions but I personally don't like to load up extra stuff that I don't need and don't use. And I really don't want to ask QDT users to do it. jim On Nov 20, 2005, at 3:59 PM, James Hunkins wrote: The last version of the unzip program that I found has two problems, one of which commonly confuses users who are installing QDT for a zipped source. 1) an error message that does not cause a real error *** SIGNAL extension not loaded *** 2) doesn't always open a window when run, but is running anyway, just not starting - running it a second time usually opens a new window/case of unzip, along with the original - this is more common on the zip_exe than on unzip_exe The version number of unzip is 5.20 of 30 April 1996. It saws that it is maintained by Greg Roelofs. Does anyone know if Greg (or someone else) is still working on this? Is he the owner of the QL port or the generic source that it is ported from. It would be good to get these two things fixed. They don't stop the use of the programs (which are for all other aspects as far as I can tell excellent and very reliable), but as I said, it is confusing to several users (it is my biggest reported problem for QDT). Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] regional QL user check - eastern Canada
Just out of curiosity, are there any QL users in the area (Toronto, Canada) that I recently moved to? Nearby are Niagra Falls and Buffalo, New York. While not as convenient, would also be interested if anyone was even a bit further but within a day's drive? Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT 1.01r release at QL is 21
Guys, I have just formally released QDT 1.01r to my distributors. Assuming that things go well when they try it this morning, it should be available to everyone during the day who has purchased QDT. My thanks to my testers also. With just about 24 hours to look at it, I got some great feedback and we caught and cleaned up a couple of bugs that I am sure would have frustrated a few users. It is looking very clean at this time. Enjoy the show! jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] XOR in high color mode
Hi George, That is exactly what I am doing. The only difference is that I am using block writes to do fast lines (width of 1). Could you forward me your test program directly to see if I can see any other difference? Thanks, jim On Oct 10, 2005, at 12:00 PM, George Gwilt wrote: A large number of my programs contain a moveable, resizable outline - and with GD2 colours. You need to set OVER -1 (or iow.sova with DM_XOR [if that is -1]). Then print the outline (which must not be coloured black!). To move the outline you need to print it again (in the same place) so that it disappears. This is because a XOR (a XOR b) = b. You can now print the outline in a different place. I can confirm that this procedure works in C68 since I have just written a short test program to see if it did. George On 9 Oct 2005, at 07:41, James Hunkins wrote: Guys, As part of QDT's drag and drop, I am trying to set the mode into xor to allow me to temporarily put an outline onto a part of the window and then restore it. I am doing this with C68 (basically calls the machine code wrapper), using the iow_sova call. When I set the mode to DM_OVER, it draws my outline OK. However, when I set it to DM_XOR, it does draw anything. I also found this to be true if I set it to DM_OR. Is there a limitation with high color modes and drawing in OR or XOR mode? In SuperBasic it works fine in the original QL color mode. Does anyone have an alternate suggestion to drawing a temporary outline and then being able to restore it on different parts of the screen? Thanks for the help, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] a question about QDT
HI Guys, I must have some character checking that is blocking the extended characters such as these. Will look into it and fix it on an upcoming update. Thanks for reporting it. QDT work is currently ongoing after a long hiatus from it due to my move and new job. But putting in the hours on the drag and drop copy/ move feature at this time. Stay tuned... Jim On Oct 5, 2005, at 4:20 AM, François Van Emelen wrote: Malcolm Cadman schreef: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], François Van Emelen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi QDT-users, Why can't I use characters such as 'éèêà..' to name or rename folders and icon texts? Is this a feature (couldn't find anything about it in the manual) or is it a bug? You mean that you wish to use accented characters and they are not being accepted ? Yes I haven't tried this myself. Perhaps you should email the author directly. In addition I am, for one, looking forward to an update to QDT. So am I. Thank you for your reply. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] US QL Show Oct 8-9 2005 canceled
Spring would be better for me too. Sometime after March. All the best to Al! jim On Sep 26, 2005, at 8:07 AM, Bill Cable wrote: As many of you know Al Boehm suffered a serious stroke this summer. He was the organizer of the US QL show. He is slowly recovering but still is partially paralyzed on his left side. I spoke with him by phone two days ago and he appointed me to decide what to do. The original Motel picked as the show site has changed hands and can not be located by its original name. I am not aware of anyone coming to this show at present. If anyone is please contact me. I am canceling the show as originally set up although we may have a small meeting in the Boston area at Al's daughters house on Oct 9th although that has not been decided for sure. We may schedule another show for the spring of 2006 in the Boston area. Bill Cable ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, then A4 A5, now online conferencing
I would be interested. jim On Aug 14, 2005, at 1:37 PM, gwicks wrote: - Original Message - From: James Hunkins To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, now A4 A5 On the other hand, it would allow some of us to participate who can't actually get there (small matter of an ocean in the way in my case). I do phone and video conferences all the time and have taken to using video iChat nearly every day. While obviously not as ideal on direct 1 to 1 contact, it still is an opportunity that would be nice to have. This might be an idea for QL is 21. I am still not certain what internet facilities we shall have and, in any case, our network expert will only be present on the Saturday, but it would be interesting to have an international link-up if there is sufficient interest. It would also be an idea for the show at which Quanta has its AGM. Networks are now standard for most non-UK shows, but it has never happened at a UK show, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] was Turbo, now A4 A5
On Aug 13, 2005, at 4:10 AM, gwicks wrote: Online conferencing is not as simple as its sounds. Jochen and I are trying to set up online facilities for urgent QL Today editorial conferences, but I am having problems with my server. The last Quanta committee meeting lasted for 4 hours. Would you really like to be sitting at your computer for that length of time? Sorry but I like to have human contacts. On the other hand, it would allow some of us to participate who can't actually get there (small matter of an ocean in the way in my case). I do phone and video conferences all the time and have taken to using video iChat nearly every day. While obviously not as ideal on direct 1 to 1 contact, it still is an opportunity that would be nice to have. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] A4 or A5
Disk based also would not work for some of us. My personal preferences is that we have an option of a mailed copy or a downloadable copy. An email notification with a login to get the copy would work on my case. Most people who can get email should be able to login to a web site and download. This would avoid trying to send a large file to someone who's mailbox doesn't have room for it. The only question I would think of, if the number of required printed copies gets too small, does the cost for those go up? Cheers, jim On Aug 6, 2005, at 4:05 AM, Derek Stewart wrote: Not all Quanta members have the abilities to download an electronic version of the magazine. What are the arrangement for these people, is the magazine going disk based. Derek gwicks wrote: - Original Message - From: Derek Stewart To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] A4 or A5 I would like the magazine kept the way it is now. Not sure about downloadable version,. this would mean non-subscribers would have access to the magazine. But I guess this has been thought out. Thought out, but not yet worked out. There are two possibilities. One is bulk emailing and the other is a closed section on the website. However no one on the Quanta Committee has experience of either so we would have to have external expertise. Downloading was thought up some years ago as a way of reducing costs, and if I remember rightly came from members at an AGM. The magazine is Quanta's biggest single expense. However savings would only be in postage and not in printing. Obviously the printer has to make a living and his only savings would be paper and ink costs, Best Wishes, Geoff ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QPC2/Windows
Hi Stuart, Here are answers to your questions... 1. Has anyone tried QDT? What do they think of it? Does it allow drag and drop or any other file handling functions like Windows Explorer does? Drag and drop is not yet there but am currently working on it. 2. If QDT doesn't have a file handler, are there other graphic front-end file handlers that can be used in QPC2? So far QDT pretty much just uses what is available. However, a file manager is also being planned that will be incorporated into the QDT folder type environment. It will also allow for objects to be made directly from files within it folders and full drag and drop, when it gets done. 3. I vaguely remember QPTR - am I right that this just has functions/handlers rather than being a full windowing suite? Yes, qptr is a set of calls that handles the windows/pointer environment. It is very capable, especially for how long ago it was developed. QDT has had to extend the pointer environment in certain ways (IE: the tabbed notebooks) but takes full advantage of the pointer environment as it exists, including the wonderful message passing between jobs. 4. Is Easy Pointer 4 anything to do with the above? No - just wish I had it when I start QDT. Am using it for future utilities, etc. I had used the original Easy Pointer for most of the window development, generated the 'C' code from it and then tuned it in. I'd like to have a snazzy interface rather than typing everything in. This will be important, I feel, if QPC/QXL/QL are to live for longer. QDT does take advantage of the QMenu interface (use the right mouse clicks or short cut keys) where it makes sense. It is not included in the demo but if you already have it from another application, it will use it. QMenu is included with the full purchased release. Jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QDT status (another moving story)
Hi Guys, Wanted to let everyone know why there hasn't been a major QDT upgrade since the initial release. It is another moving story (but not nearly as painful as Jochen's). For the last four months I have been contracting with ATI out of the local office on a huge project so have been very busy, much of it spent traveling to Canada. The good news is the last boxes are almost out of my Bay area home and packed on a truck. A week from today I will arrive in temporary housing in Toronto, Canada and start practicing saying 'A' on the end of every other sentence (just joking, only on every 3-4 sentences). I will be working for ATI as an architect (my perfect job) - you will see the first thing that I was involved in pretty soon. Once I get up there (and perhaps on the move) I can start spending some real time again on QDT. I am currently working on the drag and drop (the top requested feature) and then probably the file manager. Then I will go back and fill in all the tabbed notebook capabilities (there are tons of things coming). Stay tuned... The almost Canadian, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
On Apr 22, 2005, at 4:55 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: On the other hand, while the money will never, ever compensate for the time or energy, it does show me that people respect the work and are interested in it. If no one was willing to pay what I consider to be a very underpriced cost for QDT, I would read it as no one appreciated the work being done. Therefore, it would not happen and further development would definitely not happen. You have to be careful - if people perceive one program as costing more than the operating system it runs on they may not understand the reasons. I would be happy to raise the price of QDT if that would make anyone more comfortable :) Actually, am considering this for later, simply because QDT is relatively very underpriced. But if I do, it will be pre-announced to allow anyone waiting to buy before it would happen. The pricing was initially set to encourage people to buy it and give it a go. However, in review against other QL modern software prices and further comparison to PC type software prices, it really does feel very underpriced to me. jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Just an idea for a new Product.....
For myself, I started QDT as an interesting project. Plus I really enjoy the people involved in the community. To be honest, I would have abandoned the project quite a while ago if I was only doing it for the money. Probably before it even started. On the other hand, while the money will never, ever compensate for the time or energy, it does show me that people respect the work and are interested in it. If no one was willing to pay what I consider to be a very underpriced cost for QDT, I would read it as no one appreciated the work being done. Therefore, it would not happen and further development would definitely not happen. So, while the money isn't everything, obviously, it definitely is something. Knowing the effort that goes into different QL software projects, I don't know of any that I would consider not to be fare value. And most are very good deals already. jim On Apr 21, 2005, at 5:08 AM, COLIN PARSONS wrote: The only way, taking a leaf from Linux, that it is going to increase it's market penetration is if it is freely available for download, under a GNU license. This is a bullet that has to be bitten, if there is to be any future for the platform! Very encouraging discussion ... how many new software products will people write for QDOS/SMSQ, being told they better give it away for free to stabilize their own future ...? Taking an example from the Linux community again, a LOT, if they have any real belief in the future of the platform. How many work in the QL sector for real monetary gain, rather than love of the product? Cheers Colin ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc;
Hi Bill, Yes, please do send over your install_log file when you figure it out, along with letting me know if you had any demos loaded before. You asked about the signal extensions. You do not actually need them. For some reason the latest build of the unzip utility thinks that you do and gives you a warning that they aren't there. But everything works just fine regardless. I have added a note in the FAQ page on the QDT website as to this. QDT itself instead uses the env_bin for its signal passing and does not itself require the signal extensions. This env_bin is part of the QDT install to make sure that your system is set up properly. jim On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:34 PM, James Hunkins wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc; Date: March 30, 2005 1:27:43 PM PST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Did you have any of the demos loaded before installing 1.00r? jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc;
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc; Date: March 30, 2005 1:27:43 PM PST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. Did you have any of the demos loaded before installing 1.00r? jim On Mar 30, 2005, at 1:07 PM, Bill Waugh wrote: - Original Message - From: James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:05 AM Subject: Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc; Bill, Just thinking about your problem. Are you installing the release version or one of the demo versions? If a demo version, which one? If About doesn't tell you from the QDT icon, that will tell me what I need to know. Thanks, jim Hi James I have the release version 1.00r I have it working on a hot_key that I defined myself in the boot I'll send install_log when I figure how to get it from QL_win to outlook express everything seem to be working ok, still looking around All the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] qdt/qpc;
Bill, Please forward me the following items by separate email and I will try to figure out what is wrong with your install and running of QDT. Also, please feel free to contact me through the following email on any QDT related questions. Part of your QDT documentation gives you information on getting 'quick' support. 1. send me a copy of: - if QDT installed properly: from win1_QDT_, there should be an install_log or similar type file else if QDT did not install properly from win1_QDTINST_, the same install log or similar file 2. your boot file - original one that was backed up - boot file after QDT installed 3. your QDT_log file after you ran QDT (in win1_QDT_) 4. the DESKTOP_QDT file in win1_QDT_ Is your boot file a single file or does it call other basic boot files conditionally during boot? I have many messages that are included in these and should be able to determine the issue if you can pass these files to me to review. support AT jdh-stech DOT com Thanks, jim On Mar 28, 2005, at 9:19 AM, Bill Waugh wrote: Hi A couple of queries that some of you might can help out with 1. (I'm sure this has come up before) when running QPC when the cursor moves over a basic window a letter A attaches itself to the cursor? system is Sempron running windows XP. 2. I have tried three times to install QDT, it keeps logging no hotkey available when there is indeed plenty left unused, and in #0 window no signal extension. Exec ing QDT direct does not bring up any Icon and nothing appears in Jobs Can QDT exist alongside QPAC2, surely it must if it should have a hot_key. I have minimised my boot file to eliminate any problems but still no luck Any clues or should I do a Dillwyn ( maybe I've done a Dillwyn - yikes) all the best - Bill ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] SGC battery
Just be careful when soldering it in. They can explode if you get carried away. A quick tap of solder though is fine. jim On Mar 20, 2005, at 11:43 PM, Phoebus R. Dokos ( . ) wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 22:53:35 -0500 (GMT-05:00), extdgl42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have for sale the SGC card battery? The red creature about 3/4 inch square. I have an index card recording the stamped in printing on the top surface, but not with me at the moment. Today we replaced the Minerva battery, which registered about .1 or .2 V. The SGC battery barely even made the multi meter needle quiver. I believe we were touching with the probes correctly. Doug L. 37830 USA Doug, I replaced mine with a run of the mill Lithium battery bought from Walmart. It just needs soldering in the appropriate positions :-) As for the Minnie battery I assume you mean Mel's... I am glad you finally got around to it :-) Ffibys ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard ....
On Mar 8, 2005, at 12:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, grovelling apologies over, I need/want/would like some suggestions for articles in the QL Toady Assembly Language series. I realise I have to fix that damned disassembler - but that's another job. I'm looking for something fairly short that fits into one or two issues so no long term tasks like 'convert all of Linux into M68008 assembly languge' please :o) How about something on how to use Things? jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard ....
First of all, since when were we worried about being diplomatic here :) I did read the articles by Jochen and they were a help. But as mentioned, the 'meaty' followup one(s) didn't happen for what ever reason. No problems - really did appreciate what we got so far. Was just thinking that someone might want to play around with it a bit and perhaps take it further. Wish I had time but I am struggling to get back into QDT again right now. I see some more good suggestions have popped up too, cool. Keep up the cool series. While I don't do much assembly, I occasionally borrow some of the info for my C68 programming. jim On Mar 8, 2005, at 8:10 AM, P Witte wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [ql-users] Suggestions on a postcard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about something on how to use Things? Ah now then, how to be diplomatic about this one ? I suggested a while back that an article on Things would be a good idea and Jochen - currently the only person I know who knows about Things - took up the challenge and did produce a couple of articles. Then they stopped (due to pressures of work and health if I remember correctly) so the 'meaty' articles on actually using Things never appeared and I'm still confused about them. So, I second your request, but unfortunately, I'm unable to assist - yet ! The only thing about Things that interests me (the rest should be pretty straight forward. All you need to do is read the manual about 100 times) is how to use parameters in Extension Things. There are also a few esoteric topics such as whether Things can be users of other Things and the like, but I suppose most of that can be discovered by just trying.. Per ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] EasyPtr was movig sbasic
Myself for another. jim On Mar 3, 2005, at 11:17 PM, François Van Emelen wrote: Roy wood schreef: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], gwicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Snip Easyptr is still a commercial program sold by Jochen and I On the subject of EasyPtr any news of a possible upgrade? The upgrade situation is not easy. I do have an updated version of Easymenu and Easysprite but they are by no means releasable as Marcel considers them unfinished. The question is would there be a market for an updated version. Marcel does a lo of work on this kind of thing and gets little back for it. He has the source files but I cannot, in all honesty, ask him to work for nothing. He says that the code is not that easy to understand so he is the ideal person to do it. I would like to see and improved high colour version and I, for one, would be willing to pay for this. How many others? I don't know how many but I would be one of them. François Van Emelen ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fred Toussi
:) That story sounds all too true. I have actually seen some very fast Java but unfortunately, that is more the exception than the norm. It is very easy to program poor Java code and it can bog down big time. The nice thing with C is that it tends to enforce proper use of structures and better programming habits. Java leaves it up to the individual programmer and software architect to know what they are doing - not always a good idea (to be nice). Cheers, jim On Feb 17, 2005, at 11:34 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote: James Hunkins wrote: Actually just poorly written Java apps and/or with poorly designed Java development environments. I would presume that since he used to write QL code that he knows how to efficiently use Java too. It makes a big difference if you understand and apply good practices in Java, just like it does in QL coding. So with him, fast might be appropriate. Cheers, jim Morning Jim, I once was having a 'lunchtime rant' in the canteen at work over the new 'improved' Oracle installer which had just been rewritten (re-architected as they put it - g) in Java from C. It was so slow that even the main splash screen had it's own screen to show that the splash screen was loading. Nice. Things have improved a little since then, but java stuff is still slow. My ranting was overheard by the so called 'technical director' who advised me that Java was indeed as fast as C. This was and is total b*ll*x as Java is interpreted byte code while C is compiled into machine code. He was not to be deterred and informed me that he had already implemented two systems, with over 1,500 users each, written in Java and it was fast. I was then astonished when he admitted that Java is slow if it has to deviate from the 'normal' path through the code. I asked if this included hanling errors and he replied that it did. The upshot was, in his two systems there is no error handling and only the 'one true path' through the code is allowed. I'd hate to have paid for those systems ! He's no longer the technical director - he didn't have any technical knowlege at all. I'm no longer the Oracle DBA there either - I work for myself now. :o) Cheers, Norman. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Fred Toussi
Actually just poorly written Java apps and/or with poorly designed Java development environments. I would presume that since he used to write QL code that he knows how to efficiently use Java too. It makes a big difference if you understand and apply good practices in Java, just like it does in QL coding. So with him, fast might be appropriate. Cheers, jim On Feb 17, 2005, at 10:32 PM, Norman Dunbar wrote: The bit that puzzles me is the fact that it is written in Java, but described as 'fast' and named 'Hypersonic'. Must be a different Java to the one I've been used to. All Java applications are s...l...o...w ! :o) Cheers, Norman. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5
That was almost too easy. Something tells me you may be getting more requests :) Cheers, jim On Jan 24, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: Pål Monstad wrote: Nice to hear from you! I'm sorry, but I do no longer have the source code for DM5, so I guess it's impossible to make DM5 work with extended colours. I anyone is interested, please put the program into Public Domain. In case you're curious, the result looks like this (with my personal theme colours, look on other systems will differ as colours and even the sprites at the top are not hard wired anymore): http://www.kilgus.net/images/dm5.png Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Disk Mate 5
At the rate it is currently going I will be able to celebrate my 1th sent email (of those that are still in my archive, all the BBS years not included) within the next few months. Unbelievable. Where I come from, we would call you an email wimp - only 1? :) jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] BMP files etc
Actually I personally prefer the way you have it now Dilwyn. It works great and you are able to give descriptions with everything. An FTP site is fine for massive file downloads or looking for particulars. But it depends on file names and folder hierarchy to let people know what stuff is. And not all the files that you and everyone offers have the most descriptive names. I would be asking what the advantage to setting up an FTP site actually is, other than a personal preference of someone, before you go to all the work of doing it. There might be a good reason but I can't think of one, at least for your files. Cheers, jim On Jan 13, 2005, at 7:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dilwyn, with all the stuff that you are providing on your www site maybe you should also consider an FTP repository. In that way all the files available are readily accessible for download. FTP came before HTTP and was designed for file access. Although the latter seems now to be more popular as users are more used to accessing from a web site. -- Malcolm Cadman I've never set up an FTP site and would need help and advice to get it going, but it's something I'd consider. I've been very lucky with the Freeola UK6 site, it's reliable, has masses of free space and the only real restriction they place on you is that everything must be visible, i.e. pages anyone can read or files anyone can download, you mustn't use it as a private file store. I guess they make their money from users dialling up. Can you point me a source of information on getting and setting up an FTP site? Dilwyn Jones ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] BMP files etc
Hi Dilwyn, I don't think that I see the changes. Am I blind or did they not actually get uploaded yet? Thanks, jim On Jan 11, 2005, at 4:08 PM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: I've updated the Graphics page on my software download site to include the BMP and QL high colour screen conversion and other graphical utilities as I mentioned earlier today. The upload includes a copy of the article from Vol 8 Issue 3 of QL Today and the SBASIC listings showing how to convert between 24 bit BMP files and QL mode 32 and mode 33 screens in both directions. Hope this helps Jim Hunkins and anyone else trying to get their QL to handle PC graphics. Point your browser at this URL, then steer to the Graphics page. www.dilwyn.uk6.net Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/2005 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] display or convert non _scr formats to _scr
I quick request for help here. I am looking for a way to either convert non-ql formats such as JPG or BMP to _SCR or to display them full screen so that I can do a capture into the _SCR format. Any quick suggestions, other than from GIF (color count is too limited)? Thanks, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] display or convert non _scr formats to _scr
I tried it on QPC but it didn't seem to want to start? Is there something special I need to do with it? jim On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: James Hunkins wrote: I quick request for help here. I am looking for a way to either convert non-ql formats such as JPG or BMP to _SCR or to display them full screen so that I can do a capture into the _SCR format. Photon displays JPG. Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] display or convert non _scr formats to _scr
Hi Marcel, Tried a new copy, shorten file names, etc. and it still doesn't work on my QPC. The copies I have found so far are from April 2000. I tried it in Aurora color mode and it works there but with the normal 256 color limits. It doesn't start in hi-color mode though so I am wondering if I don't have a current copy. Thanks, jim On Jan 10, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Marcel Kilgus wrote: James Hunkins wrote: I tried it on QPC but it didn't seem to want to start? Is there something special I need to do with it? EX photon;'filename' Marcel ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] display or convert non _scr formats to _scr
Hi Roy, I think my question got translated :) What I am looking for is a way to get a capture of an image into a _scr format so that I can load it as a BGIMAGE for wallpaper. Assuming I have something like a BMP or JPG image at my proper screen resolution, is there a way to convert it directly to the SCR format or, I think this is what I used to do, display that graphics image on QPC full screen and then use one of the capture programs such as snatch to save it as a SCR image. Jim On Jan 10, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP Roy, if you are on line, I think you told me how to display a full screen image before and capture it? I was using the Print Screen Function in Windows which worked even though QPC2 was running full screen. Don't know how you would do this on a MAC. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] camera (was Lynx 282)
This is absolutely hit and miss, depending on the software, updates, manufacturer of system and camera, other software, etc. (IE: ouch). Simple solution - buy a Mac or better yet, do we have someone volunteering to write all the drivers and design the hardware for our system? (in case someone thinks I am serious, I am not) By the way, I don't work for Apple anymore before anyone says anything. But I do have too much experience helping others trying to get their cameras hooked up and working reliably on the PC side. And no, this is not an offer to help. I don't do Windows anymore :) Just QL and Macs. Cheers, jim On Jan 9, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Tony Firshman wrote: On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 at 19:14:16, Wolfgang Lenerz wrote: (ref: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) On 9 Jan 2005 at 16:38, Dilwyn Jones wrote: snip Hmm sorry to add to your woes, but I have a totally different story... I took my digicam digi camcorder to my recent vacations. I took picures films of my children skiing, brought them home, plugged both in: the digicam (USB) was recognized as a removable disk and I just pulled all of the pictures off it into the laptop and was able to display them there. The camcorder was plugged in via firewire, I again just pulled everything off it with some (free) MS software called movie something. Both worked first time. I do admit that this was the first time I was impressed by anything windows related (and the family was suitably impressed). I'm probably just lucky. I didn't install any kind of driver or anything, not even the software that came with the devices - but it was XP SP2.. Absolutely identical situation with my Canon Powershot G5. Incidentally, Dilwyn, you should be able to plug in the camera's storage card into, say, a 6x1 reader and copy the photos from there. My Canon's PCMCIA card is added automatically as a drive under XP. This should be the same for any standard card, needing no added drivers. Multi input cards readers are very cheap, if your PC/laptop doesn't come with any. Tony -- QBBS (QL fido BBS 2:252/67) +44(0)1442-828255 tony@surname.co.uk http://www.firshman.co.uk Voice: +44(0)1442-828254 Fax: +44(0)1442-828255 TF Services, 29 Longfield Road, TRING, Herts, HP23 4DG ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Subject ? ? ? ?
I believe in this case, it would be the thing at the bottom of the ? jim On Jan 9, 2005, at 1:53 PM, David Tubbs wrote: can anyone tell me what the point is ? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Subject ? ? ? ?
Sorry about that, been working on the QDT install database for 3 days now and my mind is having problems being serious about much of anything :) Actually, subject lines are very important and a continuing frustration to me - and definitely not only on this mail list. I treat subject lines (or try to) as part of good manners. Knowing how busy I am, I appreciate the little things that everyone does to help myself and others manage our collect time better. Also, for those who take the time to snip off the extras in a response, another bout of appreciation. Jim On Jan 9, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Rich Mellor wrote: lol Jim I think he means wot's the point ohf having a subject line - the body of the emails soon goes away from it... ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Fwd: [ql-users] QDT User Manuals
Hi Malcom, http://www.jdh-stech.com For quick access to the documentation directly, you can use (note that this address may change in the future but is listed for your convenience for right now)... http://www.jdh-stech.com/QDT/documents.html By the way, for anyone looking at the manuals, it might be useful to understand their actual purpose. There are quick access text readme files included in the release - early samples are included in the demo. The manuals themselves are intended as a much more exhaustive reference and do include hopefully (or will include) exhaustive details and a lot of background of what and how QDT is put together. Thanks, jim On Jan 4, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: What is the web site address ? ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Glad it is working for you so smoothly. If you do hit any problems, there is an errata and FAQs page on my website. I am racing towards a full release copy and both Roy Wood and Jochen Merz are the distributers who you can order through. And believe me - big difference between the demo and the full version :) I will let everyone know when we get closer to the final release day this month. cheers, jim On Jan 4, 2005, at 10:58 AM, Derek Stewart wrote: I received the QL Today demo of QDT, which I have installed on my Q60. The QDT install program worked great first time, merging all my boot file together with QDT boot file. No problems there at all. QDT looks really slick and I have been running it constantly since it was installed, as I do not switch off the Q60. QDT on my Q60 has only 18 days to run, then I do not know what will happen, I can not seem to buy a full copy. A really nice piece of software. Derek ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT User Manuals
Thanks, anything will help. I already got some good feedback from Per and will start working on incorporating it and anything else I hear probably on Sunday, if not before. Cheers, jim On Jan 4, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Hi Malcom, http://www.jdh-stech.com For quick access to the documentation directly, you can use (note that this address may change in the future but is listed for your convenience for right now)... http://www.jdh-stech.com/QDT/documents.html Thanks, Jim. I will download them tomorrow, and hopefully give you some initial feedback over the coming weekend. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] OT: Calling Jim Hunkins
That email is invalid (was closed out over a year ago) - we are doing some spam filtering on the sight. The best way to contact me concerning any QDT specific item is either through the email link on the website or directly with contact at jdh dash stech dot com. You can also use jimh instead of contact for general business type issues. By the way, please do NOT list in plain text any of my email addresses anywhere. Especially the business related ones, as I don't want to get to the position where I have to do huge spam filtering or need to change them. I appreciate everyone's understanding on this. By the way, in case you are curious, on my website, the email addresses are shown in graphics format and the links are done through encrypted java code. Just to let you know how serious I am about trying to block my business addresses from spam robots. Thanks, jim On Jan 3, 2005, at 12:38 PM, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Jim can you investigate this? --Attachment begins-- Hi. This is the qmail-send program at host220.ipowerweb.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 209.237.15.61 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 [EMAIL PROTECTED] unknown user account Giving up on 209.237.15.61. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QDT User Manuals
Out of curiosity, has anyone grabbed any of the user manuals for QDT from my website yet (3 so far, more on the way). They are rather large (PDF and with graphics) but I am hoping that they will be useful. Before I start reducing them to plain text forms for inclusion, I would really appreciate any user feedback I can get on them. Thanks, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] spam from this archive?
Interesting, I hadn't even thought about the email address being shown in the headers here. But interestingly enough, while some might be coming through, it hasn't been too much that I know of. I will check with my provider though for an update just in case. I did just try to get to www.mail-archive.org and it says that it isn't available. Then I went through the normal sign up website and see that the archive is available only list participants and therefore not readily available to spam robots. While not foolproof, this will detour the majority of them. jim On Jan 3, 2005, at 2:25 PM, Dave P wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, James Hunkins wrote: By the way, in case you are curious, on my website, the email addresses are shown in graphics format and the links are done through encrypted java code. Just to let you know how serious I am about trying to block my business addresses from spam robots. The archiving of this list on www.mail-archive.org seems to be the biggest originator of spam for me. I only use this email for this list, and it gets by far the most spam in variety and quantity. Dave ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Some more great feedback - keep it coming everyone, as it is most useful. Here are some responses below... On Jan 1, 2005, at 6:33 PM, François Van Emelen wrote: 1)I have a 'UNKOWN' folder that doesn't contain any object. I tried to add one in this folder(as I did in 'APPS') but QDT prompted a warning window '.. aborted.. . QDT doesn't allow to delete the folder either telling me the folder isn't empty. In this case it is empty due to the limits of the demo. In the full version, any executable that is not found in the database but found on your search path will be placed here, up to the limit of 100 objects. Then you can decide if you want to keep them or delete them. The reason you can't add anything is again the limits of the demo. The limits are both for a single folder plus overall limits. If you delete something from one of the other folders or the desktop, then you will be able to try adding one in this folder. 2) A folder's window should be closed once an object is executed. The executable folder (not enabled in the demo) will be kind of like this. This is a folder that when its object is clicked on it will execute a program (normally within the folder) and not open the folder itself. Or you can from the menu open the folder. I may in the future be adding an option to close a folder when opening a new folder or executing something - user configurable. It is on the wish list at this point. 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Will be adding a specific ESC button. For now, just hit escape to close it. I fell into a mental trap and followed a very bad example from the PC world with many About windows. I am considering an option for future drop down menus to allow a single click close of them. Will also consider a separate icon or method. But for now, please also use ESC to abort from any drop down menu. This will likely not be in the full release but would be added in one of the free updates. 4) The icons are, of course, outstanding. Why not keep the same high quality standard for the icons/sprites in the folders/warning/About windows? (for example the JDH logo,ESC,?(help), W(warning),... These are being worked on along with some other cosmetic improvements - just did not make it in time for the demo. 5) All 'Icons/Folders/ About/Warning have the same names( Object icon/ Folder icon/ Wait/ About). This is not a good idea in case one would hang or crash: I woundn't know which one to 'rjob'. Will look into name differentiation for future updates. For actual errors, additional more specific information is added to the qdt.log file (but never enough it would seem :) ). Will also be releasing as a future update a separate job manager that will allow you to block out all the QDT items if desired (each object on the desktop, icon or open folder, is a separate job). 6) If you delete an object in a folder and add a new one the space left by the deleted object remains empty. If you that a few times you will have to resize the folder's window to see the new added object. This isn't quite true but for some reason the first space in a folder is not being used in the placement algorithm. The algorithm for placement of new objects is based on a preset grid. I am currently doing some much needed tuning for icon placement but the theory is that if any object is within a grid square it will not be reused for a new one for automatic placement. Currently there are a few locations not being used properly in the demo but this will be correct in the full release. Of course, you can always move any object around so if you want to pack things tighter or spread them out, no problems. All the above comments would change my opinion about QDT: It's a great piece of software. If it had been around 10-12 years ago this list would have a few hundreds of active subscribers instead of a few tens. Timing seems to be everything. But to tell the truth, if we have hundreds of active subscribers I would spend all my time monitoring this list and not getting anything done on the QDT release :) If available at the QL metting in Eindhoven (March?),I will buy it, together with QWORD( Dutch and French versions). Happy New Year to all of you. At this point in time QDT development is my full time job (took a mini-sabatical from the work force to finish this and a few other projects) So it will definitely be shipping this month. I understand that Jochen and Roy are both taking orders at this time. We will announce final shipping dates when I get a bit closer to the golden release copy. Again, thanks for excellent feedback. Jim JDH Software Technologies ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
The demo should be OK for the unknown folder since no objects are being placed in it on this version. The sizing issue that Roy has discovered will be fixed in the full release. Cheers, jim JDH Software Technologies On Jan 2, 2005, at 8:43 AM, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I wrote earlier: I haven't been able to read the disk supplied with Toady. :-( Jochen sent me the files. I've installed on QPC. It took 2 attempts. The first time I ran into a file name length problem. Solved by not trying to put QPT in win1_SYSTEM_QPT_ but win1_QPT_ It works now and all I can say is WOW!!! Now to try it on my Aurora :-) Be careful on the Aurora. It is probably OK on the demo because you have a limited number or items but the full version has problems if the window is too large. I found the bug last night when I installed it on my MinisQL and Jim is looking into it -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] Fwd: QDT Demo
Glad you were able to get it installed. You did run into the file/dir name length limits built into our systems. And QDT does use sub-directories. Will add a note to the FAQs page just in case someone else hits this. Cheers, jim JDH Software Technologies On Jan 2, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Dent wrote: I wrote earlier: I haven't been able to read the disk supplied with Toady. :-( Jochen sent me the files. I've installed on QPC. It took 2 attempts. The first time I ran into a file name length problem. Solved by not trying to put QPT in win1_SYSTEM_QPT_ but win1_QPT_ It works now and all I can say is WOW!!! Now to try it on my Aurora :-) Jon. ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Still no excuse for me. After these years at Apple, you would think that I would be more consistent on every part of the interface :) Plus, many users of this probably won't be used to the PC side of things so I shouldn't be making that kind of assumption. Will definitely take care of these points one at a time... Cheers, jim On Jan 2, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Roy wood wrote: 0In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Malcolm Cadman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP 3) I miss an 'ESC' button in the 'About windows' and a 'Close/ESCP/ Quit' button in some 'dropdown menus'. Yes, your point 3 is annoying in the Demo, you can't get rid of it ... :-( Interesting that we are now so centred on desktop furniture that we don't think of hitting the ESC key. That gets rid of it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QDT Demo
Personally I would like someone to add on a 3D sculptured look to the QDT windows - which are essentially flat at present. Then the 'eye candy' appeal will be even greater. Scheduled is a finish to implementation of full color palettes and themes, which will include more of the 3D look that Marcel has so nicely implemented in WMAN (SMSQ/E). Also, some time during the upcoming year you will have Marcel's alpha blending in the Icons plus folder and desktop graphics backgrounds. Lots of neat stuff on the way. If case anyone is curious, the upcoming release is/will be ready for normal use. For anyone who buys it, there will be upgrades at no charge throughout 2005 as the additional capabilities/tuning are added. For that you probably have to change the system palette a bit. Marcel has a nice set of two (or more now?) basic files that will do that for you QDT is not yet set to use the system palette (had some difficulties with that part of the implementation so put it aside for an upgrade once the basic stuff is finished. QDT at this point is using its default color palette. There will be many options (take a look in the Desktop Configuration notebook to give you some idea - hooks are there, just fish on them yet (sorry - it is very late for me over here :) ). The latest IMac interface makes yet another step forward with its use of transparency and translucency. You mean of course Aqua and OSX :-) Which you Jim will know all about :-) Yes, but I won't be going quite that far with QDT. After all I am one person plus the help of a few on a fairly old OS while Apple has the latest hardware and tons of programmers :) Wait until he shows you that mucho cool task switcher that Apple has (simple wow... I was so jealous I nearly drilled his head ;-) hehe Actually, you did start the drill if I recall. Luckily there was nothing to leak out. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
On Jan 1, 2005, at 6:14 AM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: QDT takes that approach by scanning the 'windrive' contents, so that it sets up a users system for them. It tries to take away all the 'pain' from the user ! Note that, even with the pre-scanning of the drive and other work that QDT does the install, the customer still has some responsibility to make sure that QDT picked the right things. I believe that Roy properly pointed out (haven't seen the final article yet - come on international mail :) ), it is possible for QDT to setup up an object that, if picked, can crash the system. Yes, it is a good idea to help the customer get started but ultimately, the customer will need to do something on anything as helpful as LaunchPad or QDT if he wants to take advantage of it. There are ways to do things better but at the cost of restricting what the user can ultimately do too, or missing out on things. Always tradeoffs. Cheers, jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] not QDT Demo
So much for using my mail filters to sort anything with QDT in the topic :) Thanks for making the topic clear for me though! Cheers, jim On Jan 1, 2005, at 7:49 AM, Dilwyn Jones wrote: Can you do me a bit of a favor? Change the subject line if you want to keep talking about this other stuff? Trying to monitor for any QDT specific stuff but instead end up reading all about something else. Thanks! jim Of course you are right :-) Ffibys After our chat about the Welsh meaning and spelling of your name are you now resorting to the Welsh spelling when doing abit of finger wagging here;-) -- Dilwyn Jones -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.5 - Release Date: 26/12/2004 ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
[ql-users] QDT Demo
On Dec 31, 2004, at 3:16 PM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: I actually did try it from the Demo floppy as it has LRUN flp1_QDINST_BAS printed on it. Although it didn't seem to want to start from there. Did the basic program not run? If it did run, what did you type in when it asks where the installer programs are? If running from the floppy you would need to enter: flp1_ Demo's are all about finding the reactions from real users. Maybe for some people but this demo had two totally other purposes. 1) to let someone try out the program so that they could understand basically what it is and decide if they want to buy it 2) to let someone test it on their system to make sure that their system can handle it before they purchase it I have been taking user feedback and input on QDT for about four years now, both at shows and then over the last year with my testers. I do expect (and look forward to) additional feedback and reactions of course. Just my practice to use the unzip version that I have. It has turned out that Jim had used an earlier version. So inadvertently it has highlighted something that we wouldn't have thought of. One advantage of using properly tested install setups (all pieces) is that everything has been tested. The supplied install program worked fine with the file. The QL Today guys actually ran it from a floppy to do a final verify before it was shipped. One of the reasons why the unzip was included is that I am aware that there is a difference with different unzip and other archive type software. And when you think about it, the nearest thing to a standard for zip/unzip that I am aware of has been the attempt to match the original PKZIP package. Of course there are different efforts like infozip that Jonathan ported over for us. In other words, pick a 'standard' of the month' :) Cheers, Jim Hunkins JDH Software Technologies ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] Back to the QL
Tony Firshman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes SNIP I like to have a basic BOOT program to get a working system, and put everything else into a 'boot1'. I don't really see the point in that unless you are using the JM ROM This also is just makes it a pain if anyone wants to do an automatic installation program that needs to check some stuff in the boot file. Of course the 'advanced' user (in this case) would likely be able to do the extra install pieces with notes back from the installer (IE: advanced vs. easy modes). I think I have now got a romdisq that I can use to boot any QL system using the on-board ROM - very useful for troubleshooting. A simple alternative to this is to have a user key input required after just the basic install is done (abort if trouble shooting or continue as normal). jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Hi Malcolm, Could you forward me separately to the email address below copies of: - install_log file (should be either in your win1_QDTINST_ folder or more likely in your win1_QDT_ folder (assuming that is where you installed it)? - qdt.log (should be in your win1_QDT_ folder, same assumption) - your boot file(s) Also, any additional notes about your install process would be appreciated. For the installation, you should run the basic program that came with the install. It should run everything for you, including the unzipping and starting the official installer. The intent is that the three files are self contained. Just by running the basic program, you don't need to know much else. You might want to go to the QDT website to download the PDF QDT Installer User Manual. It has complete screen shots and lots more detail. It also has a few more user manuals plus errata, FAQs, etc. http://www.jdh-stech.com There is a link near the top of this page that takes you directly to QDT contact at jdh-stech dot com For email of any issues or need for support If anyone else has any problems with this install, please contact me directly as quickly as possible as I am racing to get the final full production release ready. By the way, the EXIT button only happens at the end of the install itself. The bottom right button is always the next step button, whether it be NEXT, START, or EXIT. I am really curious why you do not have anything visible on your screen to start with, especially since you are running it on QPC. Perhaps it has to do with the way you started things versus using the automated install from the basic program. Malcolm, one last thing, where did you get the more recent InfoZip copy? Last comment for now, it should be Jim, not Tim :) Have fun, jim On Dec 30, 2004, at 12:59 PM, Malcolm Cadman wrote: Hi, Just received the November/December 2004 QL Today issue. Which contains a nice present of the Demo version of QDT - QL Desk Top - by Tim Hunkins, on a floppy disk. I haven't got it working yet, after a couple of hours, which is probably my fault and I will investigate further tomorrow. A few comments on the installation. The version of InfoZIP as supplied is 5.21b (jh) which is older than the version that I have which is 5.32. The latter threw up some errors with some of the Icon files. After I had got past that problem, by using the supplied InfoZIP, the QDT Desktop Installer finally appeared. Initially I found it confusing, as all the text boxes were blank ( black ), and none of the four boxes across the lower part of the window had any contents either. The screen shot on the top of page 41 of QL Today showing the Installer has the bottom right hand box as being 'Exit'. It took a while to realise that this is actually the box that you click on to progress with the automated setup. The word 'Exit' suggests that it will end the session rather than continue. After realising that the 'Exit' box is actually the one to click on, it proceeds smoothly, although it takes some time to scan the win_drive(s), inevitably. May I suggest that Installer shows a 'Continue' or 'Next' prompt in the bottom right box ? Then the user knows it is safe to proceed. Also a message saying 'Please wait to complete ... scanning activity shown by the spinner may take some time'. I used the 'Advanced' option for the boot file, as I have more that one boot file. After the installation had successfully completed, I added the recommended alterations to the boot file contained in the 'Change' file that QDT saves during its installation. Although, at present, the boot file runs OK. QDT itself is not running for some reason. I have installed it with QPC2 v3.23 to a Zip Drive disk which is Drive D: in DOS/Windows and win2_ in QPC. -- Malcolm Cadman ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] infozip
On Dec 30, 2004, at 2:56 PM, Rich Mellor wrote: You will also need to include the signal extensions with that in the installer (same as I use for QWord installer) and zip the files with the latest version of zip (v2.2 - also from same source). Which signal extensions are you referring to? Infozip in the past has always been independent of extensions that I am aware of. I know - what a pain - unzip does not seem to actually use the signal extensions (sigext30_bin), but always complains if they are not loaded. This has caused us a headache with the QWord installer - you cannot include them in the compiled program, as they are a device driver. They must be loaded in the boot (and not from an SBASIC either). Will send a copy of them to you privately - they are not easy to find on the internet at the drop of a hat. I will try it without them to see what the actual result is. I may end up staying with what I have been using (unless I have the extensions installed on my test system too). I have grabbed the latest zip and unzip as suggested and will test with these for the upcoming official full QDT release. Jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] infozip
Actually yes AND no... Infounzip needs the signal extensions but will function properly (well sort of) without them :-) Phoebus Phoebus, Just what is this (well sort of) behavior you are describing? With the copy of unzip that I included with the demo, I get some warning about non-qdos extensions or something but that is just a warning and hopefully will be ignored by everyone. ? jim ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QDT Demo
Confirmed, please be sure to use the included files (basic program and the included unzip) to install. Using a newer version of infounzip will not work. Thanks, Jim Hunkins JDH Software Technologies ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] infozip
Just tested against the newer zip/unzip. Results: 1) can't mix the new unzip with the old zip (IE: separate email to use what came with the demo) 2) non-QDOS extensions - don't know why these were showing up but don't using the newer zip/unzip 3) the newer zip (at least its defaults) is slower to zip but not bad 4) using the new zip/unzip, the only thing that I see is a warning in SBASIC window 0 that the signal extensions were not found. - this did not impact the installation so can be addressed with a quick note in the readme file (fully verified) - much better than having to worry about making the user install extra stuff to run the installer 5) I do a separate check as I copy files from the install directory to the main directory (do this independently for several reasons). If a file is missing, the install will abort with an appropriate message and information in the log file. Does anyone know why unzip is looking for the signal extensions and what they add? It would be nice to have a copy available or a command line option that would totally avoid this minor inconvenience, especially in this case or for new users. People tend to panic over notes like this ;) Cheers, jim On Dec 30, 2004, at 4:00 PM, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:19:15 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Actually yes AND no... Infounzip needs the signal extensions but will function properly (well sort of) without them :-) Phoebus Phoebus, Just what is this (well sort of) behavior you are describing? Your installer is C based right? Well with the signal extensions you can verify that the commands that you fed unzip were executed properly and that the return code was 0. Otherwise you have no means to know (other than visually confirming it) that the installation/unzipping process was completed the way it was supposed to the copy of unzip that I included with the demo, I get some warning about non-qdos extensions or something but that is just a warning and hopefully will be ignored by everyone. Non QDOS extensions? Were files zipped at the QL level or at the DOS level (I mean outside QPC that I know you use) Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] infozip
The unzip that is included does not need the signal extensions which I have not loaded onto my system (at least yet). The ACP that I am using does not need them either but may be out of date. We should be OK with the current demo distribution as long as everyone uses the included files as they are supposed to. The full release build will probably be with the newer unzip since it is just a minor warning message and doesn't break stuff. But it will help with those who manually try to do things (only up to a point though :) ). Cheers, jim On Dec 30, 2004, at 4:11 PM, Roy wood wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Phoebus Dokos [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Thu, 30 Dec 2004 15:19:15 -0800,() James Hunkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: Actually yes AND no... Infounzip needs the signal extensions but will function properly (well sort of) without them :-) Phoebus Phoebus, Just what is this (well sort of) behavior you are describing? Your installer is C based right? Well with the signal extensions you can verify that the commands that you fed unzip were executed properly and that the return code was 0. Otherwise you have no means to know (other than visually confirming it) that the installation/unzipping process was completed the way it was supposed to the copy of unzip that I included with the demo, I get some warning about non-qdos extensions or something but that is just a warning and hopefully will be ignored by everyone. This is why I did not pick this up when I tried it out. I load the signal extension in my boot file. It has long been a requirement of the later zip files and ACP does not work correctly without it - or at least it did not work at some point. I originally loaded it when QTPI needed it. -- Roy Wood Q Branch. 20 Locks Hill, Portslade, Sussex.BN41 2LB Tel: +44 (0) 1273 386030fax: +44 (0) 1273 430501 web : www.qbranch.demon.co.uk ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
Re: [ql-users] QL Today - David McCann - Q60 Blues
What, you talk out of your a## - no comment :) Actually thanks for the Kudos but you have actually missed the point of the 'complex piece of software engineering'. The intent of QDT is to make things as simple and intuitive as possible. The installer is (hopefully) a case of this. With the easy install, the software scans and builds everything for you (assuming you have standard setups such as a single boot file, etc). Things are drag and drop, context sensitive menu driven, etc., etc. I would say that at least half of the engineering has gone into the interface and usability itself. But you will see as soon as you get your hands on it (at least I hope so) :) I don't know about the stability of SMSQ/E on Q40 or Q60 but QDT has been installed on these systems with no problems. Cheers, jim On Dec 30, 2004, at 5:26 PM, Phoebus Dokos wrote: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:19:06 -,() Rich Mellor [EMAIL PROTECTED] /wrote: On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 22:36:51 -, jms1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn where's my copy of QL Today - trouble is that people want a helping hand, but no longer turn to the user group for help and just moan rather than shouting for help. Unlike the world of Windows, Unix and Mac users, all the QL traders are always willing to lend a helping hand and there are several sample boot programs. My guess is (without having read the article) that QDT would have been a better solution for this user - go on Jim, persuade them to budle it with Q40/Q60. Well I am not so sure that QDT would be right if it weren't preinstalled. Moreover, I have found SMSQ/e 3.07 to be extremely unstable on the Q40 and Q60 and QDT doesn't work that well with older versions of (stabler) SMSQ/e. QDT is a very complex piece of software engineering (kudos to Jim of course) and as such is sometimes more difficult to tune than X-Windows. For a novice I am not so sure that it would be suitable at least not right away... maybe something like Launchpad... Of course I am probably talking out of my a## here as I have NOT YET (hehehe) received QLT (as a matter of fact not even the previous issue :-( *sniff*) So I may have not understood correctly Phoebus ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm ___ QL-Users Mailing List http://www.q-v-d.demon.co.uk/smsqe.htm
