Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:10:50PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: To Manish Singh: SuSE and YaST2 work as well or better than any other file install utility at solving dependencies. Thing you fail to realize is that -devel files are not dependencies. The main files don't need the -devel files to

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:14:29PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: On Saturday 10 December 2005 13:50, Manish Singh wrote: [...] So, with installing glib2-devel, did that work? If not, install gtk-devel, pango-devel, and atk-devel as well. It's rather disappointing that after all these years,

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread michael chang
On 12/10/05, BandiPat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 10 December 2005 20:12, michael chang wrote: Trying to answer Pat's cry for a summary... [...] -- ~Mike - Just the crazy copy cat. Thanks Mike for the reprint. Also, no need to send out two mails. I'm on this

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 December 2005 05:16, Manish Singh wrote: On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:10:50PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: To Manish Singh: SuSE and YaST2 work as well or better than any other file install utility at solving dependencies. Thing you fail to realize is that -devel files are not

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 December 2005 05:25, Manish Singh wrote: [...] I put thought into it. As I pointed out in my other mail, it seems like you're the one who didn't think things through before sending out emails. A gimp-devel package *must* have a dependency that either directly or indirectly pulls

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread patman
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:25:07AM -0800, Manish Singh wrote: A gimp-devel package *must* have a dependency that either directly or indirectly pulls in glib-devel. If it doesn't, the package's dependency specification is broken. SuSE has a history of being shoddy in this regard, other

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 01:27:17PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 11 December 2005 05:25, Manish Singh wrote: [...] I put thought into it. As I pointed out in my other mail, it seems like you're the one who didn't think things through before sending out emails. A gimp-devel package

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 10:41:47AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:25:07AM -0800, Manish Singh wrote: A gimp-devel package *must* have a dependency that either directly or indirectly pulls in glib-devel. If it doesn't, the package's dependency specification is

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-11-05 15:16]: So yes, let's end this, and next time, stick to facts instead of your emotional attachment to your distro. So Pat offers his hand and you slap his face, cannot accept a graceful exit. You present yourself as a pathetic, immature, classless

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 03:28:32PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Manish Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-11-05 15:16]: So yes, let's end this, and next time, stick to facts instead of your emotional attachment to your distro. So Pat offers his hand and you slap his face, cannot accept

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 December 2005 15:13, Manish Singh wrote: [...] When distro people screw up and the support issues land here, I feel justified to express my displeasure of having to clean up their messes, especially since they actually charge money and have a support and QA staff who have a job

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread BandiPat
On Sunday 11 December 2005 12:07, michael chang wrote: [...] The essential question is if it is _NECESSARY_ to compile gimp-perl for the user's system. No one using SuSE has answered this. Do you currently have a SuSE 9.2 Pro system accesssable to you? It would be nice if you could get

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 01:27:17PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 11 December 2005 05:25, Manish Singh wrote: [...] I put thought into it. As I pointed out in my other mail, it seems like you're the one who didn't think things through before sending out emails. A gimp-devel package

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 03:54:33PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: On Sunday 11 December 2005 15:13, Manish Singh wrote: [...] When distro people screw up and the support issues land here, I feel justified to express my displeasure of having to clean up their messes, especially since they

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-11 Thread Manish Singh
To recap: OP is having trouble building gimp-perl. He's told to install the gimp-devel package. Fine advice, and something a newbie may not realize at first. Installing gimp-devel should've been enough, but he got another error. After further analysis, it became apparent that he was missing the

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-10 Thread Manish Singh
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 06:20:17PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Aaron Luptak wrote: On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Luptak wrote: look at config.log - it found gimptool this time, but had another error. http://mykec.com/mykec/config.log Looks like you're

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-10 Thread Manish Singh
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:22:10PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-09-05 17:05]: Maybe Novell could consider rehiring some of their linux staff and coming up with a distribution entitled Professionally Enabled. i dunno, it has a certain flair and appeal

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-10 Thread michael chang
Trying to answer Pat's cry for a summary... On 12/5/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I've just joined this list. This is my first post to it. I have been a happy GIMPer since 2000 until this year. After Red Hat ditched me 2 years ago, I switched to Mandrake 8.2 and

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-10 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 10 December 2005 20:12, michael chang wrote: Trying to answer Pat's cry for a summary... [...] -- ~Mike - Just the crazy copy cat. Thanks Mike for the reprint. Also, no need to send out two mails. I'm on this list, so read the list mail. One mail to the list will

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-10 Thread BandiPat
On Saturday 10 December 2005 13:50, Manish Singh wrote: [...] So, with installing glib2-devel, did that work? If not, install gtk-devel, pango-devel, and atk-devel as well. It's rather disappointing that after all these years, SuSE still can't get their package dependencies right. -Yosh

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-08-05 23:29]: i have been alive for several decades and have other experiences that make me question the title professional in things and when describing people. and not all experiences with the title have been bad either. it really simply seems to be

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-09 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:16:03PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-08-05 23:29]: i have been alive for several decades and have other experiences that make me question the title professional in things and when describing people. and not all

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-09-05 17:05]: Maybe Novell could consider rehiring some of their linux staff and coming up with a distribution entitled Professionally Enabled. i dunno, it has a certain flair and appeal to it, you think? Couple of points. The Professional tag was (in my

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-09 Thread Carol Spears
On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 05:22:10PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: You keep referring to 'rehiring .. linux staff'. I beleive what I read indicated that it was not the linux staff (SUSE) that was let go, but other divisions. it is rumor on my part. i heard that the cuts were much greater

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-08-05 02:56]: however, you are also not the person with the problem here But I too have the problem with gimp-perl and SUSE, and am *very* interested. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-08 Thread Michael Schumacher
Carol Spears wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:13:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-08-05 02:56]: however, you are also not the person with the problem here But I too have the problem with gimp-perl and SUSE, and am *very* interested. so, are we

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-08 Thread Carol Spears
On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 07:27:41PM +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote: Carol Spears wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 08:13:57AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-08-05 02:56]: however, you are also not the person with the problem here But I too have the

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-08 Thread Owen
Myke C. Subs wrote: Owen wrote: A. set the environment variable PKG_CONFIG_PATH to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig That's the only directory that's in my $PKG_CONFIG_PATH variable. OK, almost give up, do you have gimp.h

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-08 Thread BandiPat
On Thursday 08 December 2005 14:54, Carol Spears wrote: [...] i did not suggest reporting a bug -- i have no idea how they work. i suggested contacting them. it builds fine on debian. it builds fine on whatever seth is working on. i read of other people using it. the suggestion that other

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-08 Thread BandiPat
On Thursday 08 December 2005 23:26, Carol Spears wrote: [...] i did not mean to say anything bad about suse. i have been alive for several decades and have other experiences that make me question the title professional in things and when describing people. and not all experiences with the

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Myke C. Subs
Carol Spears wrote: it is should be easy to install gimp-perl. Most everything's easy once you know what to do and how to do it. Learning what to do and how to do it is the hard part. 1) make sure you have libgimp-dev installed from your distribution. it might also be called gimp-dev.

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 01:22:51PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Carol Spears wrote: it is should be easy to install gimp-perl. Most everything's easy once you know what to do and how to do it. Learning what to do and how to do it is the hard part. 1) make sure you have libgimp-dev

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Myke C. Subs
Carol Spears wrote: thank you for sticking with it. I *require* Add Glow in the work that I do with The GIMP. I have no choice but to stick with it. :) try editing this script to use /opt/gnome instead of /usr/local : http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimpenv OK. then type source

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Aaron Luptak
On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Luptak wrote: look at config.log - it found gimptool this time, but had another error. http://mykec.com/mykec/config.log Looks like you're missing glib.h - on my SuSE system, it's at /opt/gnome/include/glib-2.0/glib.h . I'd guess it's

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 04:07:41PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Carol Spears wrote: thank you for sticking with it. I *require* Add Glow in the work that I do with The GIMP. I have no choice but to stick with it. :) try editing this script to use /opt/gnome instead of /usr/local :

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Owen
Myke C. Subs wrote: checking for gimp-2.0... no checking for GIMP - version = 2.0.0... no *** Could not run GIMP test program, checking why... *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the *** exact error that occured. This usually means GIMP was

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Myke C. Subs
Aaron Luptak wrote: On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aaron Luptak wrote: look at config.log - it found gimptool this time, but had another error. http://mykec.com/mykec/config.log Looks like you're missing glib.h - on my SuSE system, it's at

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Myke C. Subs
Carol Spears wrote: what does pkg-config --modversion gimp-2.0 report? 2.0.4 pkgconfig had to be installed due to dependencies when I installed glib2-devel. Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Myke C. Subs
Carol Spears wrote: inspite of my couple of mistyped instructions, this should have worked. i am curious if you have gimptool installed now after installing the developer package from your distribution (was it suse?). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/gnome/bin ls -l gimptool* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Carol Spears
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 08:05:04PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-07-05 19:07]: Q. Where is the gimp-2.0.pc file? A. most likely in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig Nope. It's in /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig You, at least, have one. I have a SUSE install

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Owen
Myke C. Subs wrote: Owen wrote: The problem lies in where you have gimp-2.x installed. That is what the error message is saying. I have gimp-2.x installed right where the SuSE 9.2 RPM said to put it. fair enough, but where is that gimp-2.0 executable? /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.0 ???

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-07-05 20:50]: i am having problems with this because i have been using a different distribution, and once you figure out how they work together -- well, you can even see very very fine points where they don't. they are all the same only different. to the

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread michael chang
On 12/7/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/opt/gnome/bin ls -l gimptool* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52 gimptool - gimptool-2.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root10660 2005-11-10 02:00 gimptool-2.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2005-12-05 11:52

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Myke C. Subs
Owen wrote: Myke C. Subs wrote: Owen wrote: The problem lies in where you have gimp-2.x installed. That is what the error message is saying. I have gimp-2.x installed right where the SuSE 9.2 RPM said to put it. fair enough, but where is that gimp-2.0 executable? /opt/gnome/bin/gimp-2.0

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-07 Thread Carol Spears
this email was great. you are competent and know what you are doing. however, you are also not the person with the problem here nice read though carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Myke C. Subs
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, install gimp-perl How? Is this another RPM? Or is it only available as a tarball? Where do I get it? Thanks, Myke ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Myke C. Subs
mickeydog wrote: is this the answer: http://www.forumsforyou.com/p/comp.graphics.apps.gimp/Where_Is__Add_Glow__and__Center_Layer__in_Gimp_2.x__1954.html That is a thead I created elsewhere on the same subject before I joined this list. IIRC, the response involved uninstalling the SuSE RPM

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 02:24:54PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: mickeydog wrote: is this the answer: http://www.forumsforyou.com/p/comp.graphics.apps.gimp/Where_Is__Add_Glow__and__Center_Layer__in_Gimp_2.x__1954.html That is a thead I created elsewhere on the same subject before I joined

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Myke C. Subs
Carol Spears wrote: it is easy to build gimp-perl. get the tarball and open it. type perl Makefile.PL soon after type make when that is completed, as root type make install I downloaded the tarball yesterday, opened it and attempted to install it. I am not green with regard to installing

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-05 16:40]: Carol Spears wrote: it is easy to build gimp-perl. get the tarball and open it. type perl Makefile.PL soon after type make when that is completed, as root type make install ... As root: -

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 03:39:11PM -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Carol Spears wrote: it is easy to build gimp-perl. get the tarball and open it. type perl Makefile.PL soon after type make when that is completed, as root type make install I downloaded the tarball yesterday, opened it and

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread michael chang
On 12/6/05, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Spears wrote: it is easy to build gimp-perl. get the tarball and open it. I downloaded the tarball yesterday, opened it and attempted to install it. I am not green with regard to installing from source. I just don't prefer to do

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread michael chang
On 12/6/05, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-05 16:40]: Carol Spears wrote: it is easy to build gimp-perl. get the tarball and open it. type perl Makefile.PL soon after type make when that is completed, as root type make install

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Carol Spears
it is should be easy to install gimp-perl. there are a lot of different ways to do it and a lot of different explanations of how other people personally do this with their own system. i learned this in 1998 and it still works without a lot of explanation from others. 1) make sure you have

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-05 17:52]: 5) look at /etc/ldconfig and make sure that /usr/local/lib/ is in the list of paths there, if it isn't, add it. there is *no* /etc/ldconfig in the SUSE distros. There is an executable, /sbin/ldconfig. -- Patrick Shanahan

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Carol Spears
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 07:56:57PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-05 17:52]: 5) look at /etc/ldconfig and make sure that /usr/local/lib/ is in the list of paths there, if it isn't, add it. there is *no* /etc/ldconfig in the SUSE distros. There

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Owen Cook
On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 07:56:57PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-05 17:52]: 5) look at /etc/ldconfig and make sure that /usr/local/lib/ is in the list of paths there, if it isn't, add it. there

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-06 Thread Carol Spears
On Wed, Dec 07, 2005 at 02:15:10PM +1100, Owen Cook wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Carol Spears wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 07:56:57PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-06-05 17:52]: 5) look at /etc/ldconfig and make sure that /usr/local/lib/ is

[Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-05 Thread Myke C. Subs
Hello All, I've just joined this list. This is my first post to it. I have been a happy GIMPer since 2000 until this year. After Red Hat ditched me 2 years ago, I switched to Mandrake 8.2 and didn't like it. So this year I switched to SuSE 9.2 Pro and I like it a *lot* - except for the

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-05 Thread mickeydog
is this the answer: http://www.forumsforyou.com/p/comp.graphics.apps.gimp/Where_Is__Add_Glow__and__Center_Layer__in_Gimp_2.x__1954.html On Mon, 2005-12-05 at 12:00 -0600, Myke C. Subs wrote: Hello All, I've just joined this list. This is my first post to it. I have been a happy GIMPer

Re: [Gimp-user] Add Glow and Center Layer

2005-12-05 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Myke C. Subs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've just joined this list. This is my first post to it. I have been a happy GIMPer since 2000 until this year. After Red Hat ditched me 2 years ago, I switched to Mandrake 8.2 and didn't like it. So this year I switched to SuSE 9.2 Pro and I