On 11 Dec 2013, at 21:17, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/11/2013 1:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Dec 2013, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/10/2013 12:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that
On 11 Dec 2013, at 18:58, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
It's a basic assumption in almost every scientific theory.
In the most important theory in physics, Quantum Mechanics, no
such
On 10 Dec 2013, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/10/2013 12:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9
On 11 Dec 2013, at 02:23, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that local hidden variables are impossible
which leaves only two remaining explanations that explain the EPR
paradox:
1. Non-local, faster-than-light, relativity
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:32 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 10:47 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:53 PM, meekerdb
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
It's a basic assumption in almost every scientific theory.
In the most important theory in physics, Quantum Mechanics, no such
assumption is made, and despite a century
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
It's a basic assumption in almost every scientific theory.
In the most important theory in
On 12/11/2013 1:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 10 Dec 2013, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/10/2013 12:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/11/2013 2:07 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:32 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 10:47 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/11/2013 1:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Dec 2013, at 02:23, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that local hidden variables are impossible which
leaves only
two remaining
On 11 December 2013 22:26, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 11 Dec 2013, at 02:23, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that local hidden variables are impossible which
leaves only two remaining explanations that
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:39 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/11/2013 2:07 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:32 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 10:47 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM, meekerdb
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 12/10/2013 12:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 12:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On
2013/12/10 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/10/2013 12:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 23:28, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On
On 12/10/2013 1:22 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
I think I was attempting to position myself between John and Jason - to
say
that determinism is reasonably well established, but only as a result
of a
long and winding process of experiment, conjecture and so on.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 4:00 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 1:22 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
I think I was attempting to position myself between John and
Jason - to say that determinism is reasonably well established, but only as
a result of a long and
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that local hidden variables are impossible which
leaves only two remaining explanations that explain the EPR paradox:
1. Non-local, faster-than-light, relativity violating effects
2. Measurements have
On 12/10/2013 5:23 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that local hidden variables are impossible which
leaves only
two remaining explanations that explain the EPR paradox:
1.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 5:23 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Bell's theorm proves that local hidden variables are impossible which
leaves only two remaining explanations that
On 12/10/2013 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 5:23 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 5:23 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 December 2013 09:06, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/10/2013 10:47 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:19 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/10/2013 9:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:53 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.comwrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
On 09 Dec 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Determinism is
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013
On 12/9/2013 2:36 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Dec 2013, at 09:44, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8,
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:44 AM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 20:56, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 5:31 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:33 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 5:31 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:28 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM, meekerdb
On 8 December 2013 20:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/7/2013 9:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Everett's idea explains the appearance of collapse without supposing it,
so it is more rightfully called a theory. It is also the only theory under
which QM is compatible with the
On 07 Dec 2013, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/7/2013 1:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Describe an experience which gives sense to multiverses.
The Young two slits.
Only in some interpretations.
In all interpretations of QM.
You have to change drastically the QM theory to avoid the MW-
On 08 Dec 2013, at 10:46, LizR wrote:
On 8 December 2013 20:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/7/2013 9:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Everett's idea explains the appearance of collapse without
supposing it, so it is more rightfully called a theory. It is also
the only theory under
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 4:46 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Surely Everett's interpretation makes quantum mechanics deterministic.
Yes but if the world really isn't deterministic then turning quantum
mechanics into something that was deterministic would be a point against
Everett; and he
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 1:58 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/7/2013 9:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/7/2013 1:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Describe an experience which gives sense to multiverses.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
It's a basic assumption in almost every scientific theory.
In the most important theory in physics, Quantum Mechanics, no such
assumption is made, and despite a century of
On 08 Dec 2013, at 19:41, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
It's a basic assumption in almost every scientific theory.
In the most important theory in physics, Quantum Mechanics, no such
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
It's a basic assumption in almost every scientific theory.
In the most important theory in physics,
On 12/8/2013 4:36 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 December 2013 07:41, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
mailto:jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
Determinism is far from well established.
On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:27, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/6/2013 12:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
) just because there are an infinite number
On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:33, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
) just
On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:35, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 3:13 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:35, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch
On 12/7/2013 1:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Describe an experience which gives sense to multiverses.
The Young two slits.
Only in some interpretations.
Brent
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On 07 Dec 2013, at 18:17, Jason Resch wrote:
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wrote:
On 06 Dec 2013, at 20:35, Jason Resch wrote:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/7/2013 1:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Describe an experience which gives sense to multiverses.
The Young two slits.
Only in some interpretations.
Everett's idea explains the appearance of collapse without
On 12/7/2013 9:34 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/7/2013 1:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Describe an experience which gives sense to multiverses.
The Young two slits.
Only in
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:50, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 1:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But what has happened is that science has taken away more and more
of their domain,
It was in the domain at the start. Science is only a lamp, not a
truth. It is a way to look at any domain.
And the
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:52, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:40 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
wrote:
On 12/5/2013 12:53 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
) just because there are an infinite number does not mean they
are equal. Your measure each time you pull the trigger in the
quantum
On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat
(each hour having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what
On 6 December 2013 21:45, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics) )
just because there are an infinite number does not mean they are
On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to spend a day in the box with
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
The way I have for a time looked at is, is there are X instances that
explain your current experience. Some may be ordinary while others might
be, say a dream. If in your experience, you encounter something you are
On 06 Dec 2013, at 11:07, LizR wrote:
On 6 December 2013 21:45, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
) just because there are an
On 06 Dec 2013, at 11:10, LizR wrote:
On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to
On 12/6/2013 12:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_%28mathematics%29 ) just because there are an
infinite
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics) )
just because there are an infinite number does not mean
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 4:10 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 6 December 2013 21:52, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 20:05, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your current measure of next finding yourself in a Drelb
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On 03 Dec 2013, at 22:45, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
You can believe in God in the same sense that we can believe in
super intelligent extraterrestrials. A.C. Clarke, and Skeptic
magazine
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your current
On 04 Dec 2013, at 21:41, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/4/2013 1:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Dec 2013, at 21:53, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/3/2013 10:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 02 Dec 2013, at 19:11, meekerdb wrote:
On 12/2/2013 1:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
wants to be worshiped, judges
On 04 Dec 2013, at 11:39, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
You talk like if I was believing in comp, or defending that comp is
true. I don't do that at all.
So you think that your belief in COMP is product of a computation,
At many levels. yes. if comp is assumed, that belief is generated by
On 05 Dec 2013, at 08:03, LizR wrote:
On 5 December 2013 19:59, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Measure is relative, it doesn't drop while you approach death.
Probabilities add up to one... And by no cul de dac you should not
count where you 're dead.
In fact you don't approach
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your
On 5 December 2013 20:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Well all the possibilities ever experienced by an human beings anywhere
in the multiverse add up to a vanishingly small measure compared to all the
parts of the multiverse where we didn't
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 5 December 2013 20:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Well all the possibilities ever experienced by an human beings anywhere
in the multiverse add up to a vanishingly small measure compared to all the
parts of
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 5 December 2013 20:58, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
Well all the possibilities ever experienced by an human beings anywhere
in the
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 09:53, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Quentin
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
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On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:09, Jason Resch wrote:
Everett said there is a non-denumerable number of copies, can you
not apply relative measure to these?
Really? Only in the case of classical QM, but did he pretend that to
be really the case? He would favor string theory on any literal
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:09, Jason Resch wrote:
Everett said there is a non-denumerable number of copies, can you not
apply relative measure to these?
Really? Only in the case of classical QM, but did he pretend that
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
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On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat
(each hour having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what would you
predict experience to be at the end of that day?
I like to answer this by this: At the end of the day I feel well
On 12/5/2013 12:53 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
Relative to what? Does not one's measure of being alive drop in half with each trigger
pull,
Wanna borrow my gun? It's a lot more reliable than that. :-)
Brent
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On 12/5/2013 1:41 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But what has happened is that science has taken away more and more of their
domain,
It was in the domain at the start. Science is only a lamp, not a truth. It is a way to
look at any domain.
And the way science looks at a domain is to make models
On 12/5/2013 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
In measure theory ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_(mathematics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measure_%28mathematics%29 ) just because there are an
infinite number does not mean they are equal. Your measure each time you pull the
trigger in the
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Dec 2013, at 17:20, Jason Resch wrote:
So if you were to spend a day in the box with Schrodinger's cat (each hour
having a 50% chance of poisoning you), what would you predict experience to
be at the end of that
On 12/5/2013 8:07 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
How did you get to our current state to begin with? If we keep following it backwards it
seems it leads to some primordial conscious state from which any future state might
emerge. If the branch in which your are shot by the quantum gun kills you,
On 12/5/2013 8:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The thing is, doing
dangerous thing *increase* likeliness to experience being crippled, that's what is more
likely.
So what was your measure before you were born?
Brent
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On 12/5/2013 11:05 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
The way I have for a time looked at is, is there are X instances that explain your
current experience. Some may be ordinary while others might be, say a dream. If in
your experience, you encounter something you are unlikely to survive ordinarily,
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On 12/5/2013 8:09 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
No, because there is no absolute measure to decrease to begin with. The
thing is, doing dangerous thing *increase* likeliness to experience being
crippled, that's what is more likely.
So what was your
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