Re: [Finale] Request to Join Email List

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Re: [Finale] rests in parts and multimeasure rests

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The original question is so far beyond my use of the program I was going to 
delete the whole thread.  Glad I didn't, because Robert, that solution is 
wonderful.  I appreciate  someone that understands how a database is 
constructed at a “cellular” level. 
 
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> On Dec 29, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Robert Patterson  
> wrote:
> 
> You can apply a staff style of "Blank Notation With Rests" to the measures
> with hard rests where you want mm rests. Finale will then create
> multimeasure rests there.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:18 PM, dc  wrote:
> 
>> I'm extracting parts from a piece that uses two different full measure
>> rests depending on the time signature (I know everyone might not agree
>> with this, but that's another question). Since Finale 2008 doesn't allow
>> for different options in different sections of the same piece, I filled
>> in the measures that differ from the default with "real" rests. The
>> score is fine, but when I extract the parts, the multimeasure rests
>> don't get created for these sections.
>> 
>> Is there any way I can get the multimeasure rests in the linked parts?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [Finale] Finale 25 printing in El Capitan

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The first thing I’d check is the setting in the print dialogue for printing 
only odd or even pages.  Probably you too, but it’s worth a mention.


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> On Nov 7, 2016, at 4:06 AM, Jim Fischer  wrote:
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> I was printing multiple pages to my Brother Laser printer.
> I ask for 3 copies and only 1 comes out. I had to do 2 more single page 
> copies.
> Am I missing something?
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> thx, Jim
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Re: [Finale] to upgrade or not...

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I’m hoping others can confirm my memory on upgrades.  It’s my understanding 
that F12 is the compatibility link between the post 12 version database 
structure and the legacy versions.  That is, F14 won’t open an F09 file 
directly.  The process to bring forward legacy files is to open and save from 
F2012 which will make it available to later versions like F14.5.  Is that true?


> On Jul 13, 2016, at 3:07 AM, Johannes Gebauer  
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> Am 12.07.16 um 22:05 schrieb Robert Patterson:
>> Personally, though, I would recommend setting up a virtual 10.7 or
>> thereabouts using Fusion or Parallels, and keeping Fin09 alive that way. It
>> sidesteps the entire upgrade issue.
> 
> 2k9 seems to work with 10.11.5, are there any issues I should be aware of?
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Re: [Finale] Problem converting older file (1999)

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> On Feb 18, 2016, at 11:52 AM, GERALD BERG  wrote:
> 
> My last FINMAC version was 2005 before 2014.  I first updated my older files 
> to 2005 then went again to 2014 - a 2 stage solution.  That went OK.  I 
> opened  one again in 2014.5 and that went horrible.  So bad I shut it down 
> and not looked at 2014.5 since. GJB


I remember reading that the pivot point for 2014 was 2012.  So 1999 file to 
2012, then to 2014 is what I think MM is expecting to produce the best results.

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Re: [Finale] Fin14.5 Export as Audio not working

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Working fine here:
Fin 2014.5
2011 iMac 21.5 inch 16 GB
OSX 10.11.3

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> On Feb 9, 2016, at 6:33 PM, Glen Daum  wrote:
> 
> I made the identical complaint using Fin 2014 on a Mac several months and got 
> no satisfactory answer or solution, so I just abandoned the attempt. So I 
> fear this feature has been broken for some time. I look forward to hearing 
> from anyone who knows how to make this work.
> 
> Glen
> 
> 
>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 8:09 PM, Robert Patterson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone have export as audio file working in 14.5? When I do it, it
>> goes through all the motions but does not save a file.
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Re: [Finale] MIDI

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>>> 
 On 23 Jan 2016, at 21:54, Barbara Touburg  wrote:
 
 Hi Chuck,
 
 I need this for a piano pupil. They don't have a piano at home, so I 
 thought I could lend her my spare MIDI keyboard, but tonight i realised 
 that she may need some software as MIDI interface. To that end I'm using 
 Finale, of course, but I was wondering if there is other (preferably 
 free) that acts as an interface.
 
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I don’t know the PC world, but the Mac OS includes Garageband (of course) which 
would provide the sound.  I bet there is a similar thing in the PC world (some 
simple music play program included with the OS).  The interface is hard to 
answer without knowledge of your students gear.  I suppose the best world would 
be a USB keyboard.  Well, let us know what you wind up with.


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Re: [Finale] TRIPLETS

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> On Oct 31, 2015, at 9:39 AM, dr.a.s. weinstangel  wrote:
> 
> Win10 Fin12
> 
> Is there a way to mark triplets as dotted quarters with one slash (or dotted 
> half-notes with one slash) and number 3 or 6 above? Going through the hoops 
> here :-(
> 
> TIA
> 
> Dr.A.S.Weinstangel

Surprised no one has answered.  Short answer is no.  Long answer is that it’s 
really “fiddly”.

Perhaps you can follow this thread:

https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/private/finale/2015-November/122011.html

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Re: [Finale] 2014d

[Dick Hauser]

I don’t know of anything except playback that’s currently broken on my system.
iMac 2.7 GHz i5, 16GB Fin 2014d.v5545

Dick H
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 On Dec 4, 2014, at 5:05 AM, Christopher Smith 
 christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote:
 
 Do you mean everything the same good, or everything the same still 
 broken? I'm thinking I might spring for 2014 if the worst stuff is fixed (I'm 
 presently on 2012).
 
 Christopher
 
 
 On Thu Dec 4, at ThursdayDec 4 1:13 AM, Dick Hauser wrote:
 
 Went ahead and updated today (not much happening).  iMac 2.7 GHz i5, 16 GB.  
 
 Still have a small random glitches using human playback playing Garritan 
 instruments for Finale through Audio Units, but everything else seems the 
 same.
 
 
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[Finale] 2014d

[Dick Hauser]

Went ahead and updated today (not much happening).  iMac 2.7 GHz i5, 16 GB.  

Still have a small random glitches using human playback playing Garritan 
instruments for Finale through Audio Units, but everything else seems the same.


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Re: [Finale] Archive Project

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This is brilliant, Ryan.  

I haven’t gotten it to work yet, but I’ll keep futzing around.  If I come up 
with a clear question, I’ll ask here because this could be really useful.  Just 
wanted to thank you for responding with such an explicit email.

Dick H
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On Sep 30, 2014, at 5:18 PM, Ryan Beard ry.squa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Make sure Finale is already open on your system. Then, open System 
 Preferences  Printers  Scanners. Select your printer. Click Open Print 
 Queue. 
 
 Drag the .mus files you want to create PDFs into the queue window. 
 
 The printer dialogue will pop up. Choose make PDF. Define where you want the 
 PDFs to be saved. Click ok. It should open up all the .mus files and print 
 them as PDFs automatically. 
 
 I find that this only works with Finale 2012, not 2014. I'm on OS X 10.9.4. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 30, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Simon Troup simon.tr...@digitalmusicart.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'd just drop them on LisaNet PDFWriter about 100 at a time. Seems to be
 much faster than using FinaleScript.
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfwriterformac/
 
 I'm sure there are numerous ways of doing it.
 
 Archives tend to become unusable with OS changes etc, might be worth
 creating a musicXML file to save alongside everything else, but that's not
 my speciality - just trying to think how you might best future proof
 everything.
 
 
 
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 On 30 September 2014 21:34, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I would like to archive about 82 meg worth of Finale files (2012 and
 earlier).  The kindest thing to do would be to create a PDF in addition to
 saving the .mus file, but there are about 1,200 files.   I can’t see how
 the process of creating a PDF could be automated, but perhaps some of you
 have ideas?I suppose I could at least include a copy of Mac and Win
 PrintMusic, but then we’re talking a bit of cost ($120 or so).
 
 Mac FIN 2014/2012
 10.9.5
 
 
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[Finale] Archive Project

[Dick Hauser]

I would like to archive about 82 meg worth of Finale files (2012 and earlier).  
The kindest thing to do would be to create a PDF in addition to saving the .mus 
file, but there are about 1,200 files.   I can’t see how the process of 
creating a PDF could be automated, but perhaps some of you have ideas?I 
suppose I could at least include a copy of Mac and Win PrintMusic, but then 
we’re talking a bit of cost ($120 or so).

Mac FIN 2014/2012
10.9.5


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Re: [Finale] Exploding into SAB

[Dick Hauser]

If it were me, I’d move all the layers into one layer before trying to use 
explode.

On Sep 1, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Steve Gruver gruve...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a choral score that I would like to Explode into SAB.  My goal is to
 explode the music into three different staves.  I know about the Explode
 Music command,  but cannot get it to look right.
 
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Re: [Finale] SFA - composer with issues asking for volunteer help

[Dick Hauser]

Glad to take on one of the PDF’s also.


Dick H
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On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi listers,
 
 As many of you know (I know how it is, you remember details about some
 people, but not all, on a list like this) I had a stroke at age 60
 last October, and followed that up with a bad fall on stairs in Feb
 which injured the base of my spine (be careful going down stairs - 3
 in my family are dealing with injuries from a fall down stairs!).  I
 can only sit for a few minutes at a time without taking addictive
 pain-killers and have worked for years, and gotten pretty good fin
 chops (though now I have to learn 2014 quickly) sitting.
 
 Plus, as I have mentioned in the last few days, I have had
 major-league computer issues with my super-wiz-bang HP Windows 8
 machine.  I am typing this on my laptop, standing, but my Finale chops
 on it are dismal.
 
 Meanwhile, I am in the middle of a deadline, and even though I have an
 extension I simply must get this work done -choir needs most of it's
 music by the last week of July. It is quite adventurous, involving
 research, narration, and PowerPoint. I have had good luck with some
 great ladies at my church who are helping - typing my dictation and
 doing the  PowerPoint which I am a novice at.
 
 My point, and I do have one (thanks for reading this far) is that I
 could really use some help!  When I was healthy, I enjoyed nothing
 more than sitting and making quick arrangements in Finale - did them
 all the time for others, even strangers on the interwebs, and I am
 thinking there are users like me out there who are still healthy and
 wouldn't mind taking a few minutes now and then to pound out a file or
 two for me.  Yes?
 
 I know that I could have done some of these chores during the time
 taken to write this message, (esp how bad a typist I am on this
 laptop) but I am hoping that the detail will draw some people in to
 sharing some of your skills with me, and interested folks won't need
 the whole story with every request.
 
 I will list some things in this message, and will add more in the
 coming weeks. The project is called Searching For America and tells
 the story of K.L. Bates writing America the Beautiful in 1893 - for
 singer actors, chorus, and chamber orch (strings, 2 fls, 2 trpts, 3
 perc.).  I am making big-time use of folk songs and other existing
 material, such as old sheet-music of obscure tunes that don't have
 midi files anywhere (I use found midi files a lot in this sort of
 thing, but I don't even have the time to spend much time at that now).
  My plan is to give mostly straight-forward arrangements to the
 choir, and contribute more originality to the instrumental and
 narration portions before the prmire in November.
 
 Many of you are pros, and have deadlines of your own, but some of you
 may be able to share some work. No money to offer - I am getting a
 little for the finished product, but not enough.
 
 If anyone is with me so far, here are my first needs.  Any Fin file will do:
 
 1. Type out these songs:
 http://www.loc.gov/item/sm1871.02334/
 
 My wife has already typed the words to the latter - I'll include that
 in my next email.
 
 2. same for some pdfs I can attach to private emails.  simple stuff.
 
 3.  A fin file, as simply scored as possible, of the Sousa arrangement
 of The Star-Spangled Banner -  midi files may be around for that.
 
 A message with I'll do 1 or whatever to the list will help avoid dupes.
 
 More later! Thanks for any help!
 
 Raymond Horton
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 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
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Re: [Finale] FIN/Mavericks midi/USB interface

[Dick Hauser]

Thanks for posting again.  My interface is so old that I didn’t think to 
respond.  Using a MOTU Midi timepiece MTPAV which is a decade or so old.  My 
current system is 

Fin 2012c.r13.
OS 10.9.2
2.7 GHz core i5 iMac (16GB)

Although I’m a hobby user and don’t stress the computer or software at all, it 
might help you to know that I run one keyboard and two hardware synths without 
a hitch.
MOTU advertises a midi driver update which is Mavericks ready and it seems to 
work for me, so perhaps you could pick up one of their smaller units 
inexpensively.

Dick H

On Mar 21, 2014, at 7:33 AM, GERALD BERG gj.b...@rogers.com wrote:

  Could someone throw me a bone on this one?  Much appreciated.
 
 GJB
 
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 From: GERALD BERG gj.b...@rogers.com
 To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu 
 Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:29:11 PM
 Subject: [Finale] FIN/Mavericks midi/USB interface
 
 
 Hi all
 
 What are people using for a midi interface that works with Mavericks 10.9 
 (newly updated!)?  Finding something that has up-to-date drivers is eluding 
 my capabilities.  Only 1 keyboard so small is good.
 
 TIA
  
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[Finale] Steinberg development Blog

[Dick Hauser]

The blog that is being kept by Daniel Spreadbury at Steinberg had another entry 
today.  

Just for those that like to read such wonky things.

http://blog.steinberg.net/2013/11/development-diary-part-four/


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Re: [Finale] Component Files Folder (Mac)

[Dick Hauser]

OK, I'm puzzled.

On ML, the user library is hidden. If you need to open it, make sure you are in 
the Finder, hold down the Option key, and then choose Go  Library.

At first, I thought one had to use the option key when in finale looking for a 
file which is in the user Library.  However, I just tried that and it didn't 
work.

From the finder I can get to  system / library / application support / make 
music / Finale 2012 / but there is no Component files folder there.  There 
is a Libraries folder, which has a Maestro Font Default in it, however.  

Using the option key from the finder, I can get to user / library / Application 
Support / Make Music / Finale 2012 / Libraries /  and find a Maestro Font 
Default there also. 

I don't have a clue as to how one might open that file in Finale to make 
changes.


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 Can't edit/create a default on Finale 2012 on a Mac. Manual tells me to (from 
 open menu) navigate to user:library:application support:make music:finale 
 2012:component files:maestro font default.FTM to edit it. The problem is, 
 there is no component files folder on my computer neither there is a 
 Maestro Font Default.FTM file anywhere. I found two Maestro Default Font 
 files *without the sufix*, inside two Default Files folders, one on each 
 library folder (user and computer). If I try to edit these, I get an error 
 message when I attempt to replace the existing ones throug a save command. 
 Can anyone help?
 
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Re: [Finale] Hearing incoming audio

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On Sep 19, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I poked all over the MIDI/Audio stuff---theMAc's and Finale's---but never 
 solved it. What do I do? 
 

I haven't done this, but I'll bet you could use garage band.

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Re: [Finale] Reorder staffs on one system only?

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On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Eric Fiedler eric.f.fied...@t-online.de wrote:

 But I can't agree with you on this one. In over 40 years of teaching, I've 
 found the question Why would you want to do that — which, by the way, comes 
 across much friendlier face-to-face than in the cold world of cyberspace-text 
 — to be invaluable.

I agree with Robert, Eric.  The question is not productive at all from a tech 
standpoint.  First of all, because the user has already spent considerable 
energy trying to do it, and in getting through to the tech support staff so 
they have built up a head of steam so to speak.  Tech needs to bring them 
down and reassure them before good information can be exchanged.  Secondly, the 
question is a paternal power play that's also not productive at that point in 
the interaction.  

Tech support needs to figure out what the client wants to do, and explain how 
it can be done.  Failing that, it's really helpful (though frustrating) for a 
client to hear that tech support can't figure out how to do it.  At some point 
in the conversation, it might be useful for tech support to find out why but 
only in the context of improving the programming and only after the client has 
been served.

I do agree with you, however, that in teaching the question is sometimes 
useful.  Explaining why you think something is sometimes useful in learning 
more about it.  Particularly if the teacher is open minded enough to empower 
the student as opposed to forcing the student to adopt methods without 
exploration and integration. 


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Re: [Finale] Reorder staffs on one system only?

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+1
On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com 
wrote:

 At this point, I recommend we all give a moment of silence to the memory of
 David Fenton. I feel sure he would have contributed something deliciously
 abrasive to this conversation. Now that he is gone, I miss him.
 
 R.
 
 On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 
 On Aug 30, 2012, at 1:17 AM, Eric Fiedler eric.f.fied...@t-online.de
 wrote:
 
 But I can't agree with you on this one. In over 40 years of teaching,
 I've found the question Why would you want to do that — which, by the
 way, comes across much friendlier face-to-face than in the cold world of
 cyberspace-text — to be invaluable.
 
 I agree with Robert, Eric.  The question is not productive at all from a
 tech standpoint.  First of all, because the user has already spent
 considerable energy trying to do it, and in getting through to the tech
 support staff so they have built up a head of steam so to speak.  Tech
 needs to bring them down and reassure them before good information can be
 exchanged.  Secondly, the question is a paternal power play that's also not
 productive at that point in the interaction.
 
 Tech support needs to figure out what the client wants to do, and explain
 how it can be done.  Failing that, it's really helpful (though frustrating)
 for a client to hear that tech support can't figure out how to do it.  At
 some point in the conversation, it might be useful for tech support to find
 out why but only in the context of improving the programming and only
 after the client has been served.
 
 I do agree with you, however, that in teaching the question is sometimes
 useful.  Explaining why you think something is sometimes useful in learning
 more about it.  Particularly if the teacher is open minded enough to
 empower the student as opposed to forcing the student to adopt methods
 without exploration and integration.
 
 
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[Finale] Music Translation Software

[Dick Hauser]

A friend sent me this link:

http://www.npr.org/player/v2/mediaPlayer.html?action=1t=3islist=trueid=2d=08-01-2012

Among these NPR programs, is one about an Abelton plugin called Sufi Plug-in. 
 The program is listed as Translation Software For Music Makers.

It's just a plugin to change defaults in Abelton to quarter tone tunings and 
tempo settings other than 4/4.  We can do those things in Finale, but the 
concept got me thinking about the inherent western bias in Finale and Sibelius. 
 Perhaps locating the development center in eastern Europe, is a step toward 
globalizing MM products and increase the size of it's market.  

Does anyone know if notation is significantly different in other cultures?

Dick H
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Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?

[Dick Hauser]

+1

On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:

 I cannot see myself ever producing a finished audio product within 
 Finale, so I'd rather see them put that effort into fixing the many bugs 
 and annoyances in the basic product.

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Re: [Finale] blanked out files

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On Mar 29, 2012, at 5:48 AM, Dana Friedman wrote:

 Didn't make a difference, I guess.


Just because I didn't see it mentioned, did you try compressing (zip) the file 
before sending?  Might not be pertinent in this case, but in the old days, that 
used to be a way to get the two forks of the Mac file combined so that the 
windows computer could identify it correctly.

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Re: [Finale] MM Songwriter

[Dick Hauser]

Thnaks, John.  Yes I should have mentioned that the laptop was old enough to 
still have that function.  We've since tested it in other applications, and it 
works just fine.  I'm thinking that I'll drag the keyboard from an old (bondi 
blue) up there and plug it into the macbook to see if it will function as a 
number pad.  It might just function as a keyboard.


On Jan 28, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Howell wrote:

 Dick:  Are you aware that Apple removed the 
 embedded keypad function from its laptops a 
 couple of years ago, just as they removed floppy 
 disk support and drives much longer ago than 
 that?  It might be necessary to add a USB keypad 
 as a peripheral to use that function.



Dick H
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Re: [Finale] MM Songwriter

[Dick Hauser]

Problem solved.  Songwriter wouldn't respond to the numlock option on this 
old (2007) macbook.  We just plugged a very old iMac usb keyboard into the 
MacBook (2.16 Ghz from 2007) and it works fine with Songwriter.  We've got the 
number pad and the functionality of the curser (arrow) keys.  It also types in 
word processing apps on the macbook.  Like others have said, makes the laptop 
less easy to move around, but most of the editing is being done in one place so 
adding the keyboard isn't a really big bother.


Dick H
OlyWa



On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Dick Hauser wrote:

 Thnaks, John.  Yes I should have mentioned that the laptop was old enough to 
 still have that function.  We've since tested it in other applications, and 
 it works just fine.  I'm thinking that I'll drag the keyboard from an old 
 (bondi blue) up there and plug it into the macbook to see if it will function 
 as a number pad.  It might just function as a keyboard.
 
 
 On Jan 28, 2012, at 11:25 AM, John Howell wrote:
 
 Dick:  Are you aware that Apple removed the 
 embedded keypad function from its laptops a 
 couple of years ago, just as they removed floppy 
 disk support and drives much longer ago than 
 that?  It might be necessary to add a USB keypad 
 as a peripheral to use that function.
 
 
 
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Re: [Finale] Sound Map Priority?

[Dick Hauser]

Is this the one?

System=Library=Application Support=MakMusic=Finale2012=MIDI Device 
Annotation


Dick H
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On Jan 27, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 In Finale 2012a, does anyone know where Finale stores the list of which sound 
 maps show up in the Sound Map Priority dialog? The Garritan Jazz and Big Band 
 and Garritan Personal Orchestra libraries aren't showing up in that list.
 
 Cheers,
 
 - DJA
 -
 WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
 
 
 
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[Finale] MM Songwriter

[Dick Hauser]

Today I advised a friend to purchase MM Songwriter after I'd tried a demo on my 
iMac.  As we went through the tutorial for Songwriter on their MacBook (2.16GHz 
intel Core 2 Duo 10.6.8)  we were not able to invoke the numeric keypad using 
the designated function key.  This was during the simple entry tutorial where 
one sets a different note value using the number pad from extended keyboards.  
Anyone know how to get the functionality of the number keypad for simple entry 
in Songwriter on a MacBook (other than pressing the NumLoc function key so 
the little green light stays on)?  Songwriter has a pull down for keyboard sets 
and laptop is one of them, but we can't select that (it reverts back to 
default.

Thanks


Dick H
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Re: [Finale] OT-HP5000 and SnowLeopard fix!!!

[Dick Hauser]

Well that link is going into the archive.  Good work, David.  Thanks  
for sharing the solution!



Dick H
Olympia, Wa


On Nov 20, 2011, at 6:27 AM, David Froom wrote:

 Hello again,

 I finally got this fixed!  It was a matter of resetting my  
 computer's ip address (to match the range of the printer's default  
 ip) so it could telnet into the printer, then changing the printer's  
 ip address (to match the range of my computer's original address),  
 then turning off DCHP (so it would keep the new address).  Then I  
 restored my computer's ip address and added the printer with it's  
 new ip address in the computer's range.  It came right up!!!

 Here is the article that solved it for me:

 http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20090913165040424

 Thank you all.  Your advice led me to the proper solution.

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Re: [Finale] O.T. 18th century notation question

[Dick Hauser]

You're way beyond my knowledge, Kim, but if I were playing that, I'd  
be tempted to use them as mordents.

Dick H
Olympia, Wa

On Sep 1, 2011, at 8:25 AM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

 Good day kind Finale users!

 I have a question about an Ordonez symphony source. There is a  
 squiggly line
 above two notes, almost like a tie, but it's not.

 It's used several times and my editor and publisher is stumped by it  
 (and
 he's a violinist).

 Any guesses?


 A screen shot is viewable @ http://i.imgur.com/6YbcE.png

 Thanks very kindly

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[Finale] Hacked email

[Dick Hauser]

No idea how that happened.  Sorry for the band width..

Dick H
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Re: [Finale] Question on screen parameters for our Mac wizards

[Dick Hauser]

On May 24, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote:


How do I get back to the default settings right from start-up?


Don't have experience to give you the answer you need, Klaus, but  
everyone else is having too much fun with the PC/Mac wars.


There are two places that I'd start looking.  First of all, ensure  
that under the Mac preferences for Universal Access, everything is  
turned off.  Secondly, are there setup drivers for the NVIDIA cards  
that you could check?


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Re: [Finale] Merging several layers in one

[Dick Hauser]

On Dec 26, 2010, at 12:01 AM, dc wrote:

If one has 3 or 4-voice chords (same note values) written with one  
note in each layer, is there any way to merge them all into the same  
layer?


Well, I thought that was an easy one, but I just checked Move/Copy  
Layers under the mass mover tool, (F2007c Mac 10.5.8) and, once  
again, I got results that I thought were wonky.  Using the selection  
box to move layers 2,3,4 into layer one over wrote layers 1,2,3 and  
left the  layer 4 note (moved  to layer 1).  Moving just layer 2 to  
layer 1 removes the original layer 1 - but does place layer 2 into  
layer 1.  If I chose the option to copy rather than move, it seems  
that the existing layer is also over written.


I guess I was thinking of  a merge command.  Can't help, sorry.

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Re: [Finale] Printing PDFs

[Dick Hauser]

Nicely done, John, thanks!


Dick H
Olympia, Wa

On Dec 18, 2010, at 10:07 AM, John Hinchey wrote:


Hi all,

I think this was discussed here before.  I know we all print a lot  
of PDF charts these days.
I've found that some of my clients print my charts and they come off  
the printer smaller than
they appear on the screen with wide margins.  I've written a blog  
post on why and how to fix it.


http://bit.ly/gkIT1P

Best regards to all,

John

John Hinchey
Nashville Tennessee
Phone: 615-397-3675
Website: Hinchey Music Services
http://www.hincheymusic.com/
Blog: Notes On Notes
http://johnhinchey.com/
Twitter: @hincheymusic
http://twitter.com/hincheymusic









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Re: [Finale] Almost Newby

[Dick Hauser]

Welcome (back) Giovanni!  Great start on your web site.  I think you  
find things much the same here.


Dick

On Sep 11, 2010, at 11:13 PM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:


Hello, I've re-subscribed to this list after a long period of absence,
since Finale 2006. I'm actually using Fin 2009 and waiting to  
upgrade to

its latest version.


Giovanni Andreani

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Re: [Finale] Digital piano/master controller recommendations?

[Dick Hauser]

On Jun 3, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Where I'm most in need of advice is with regard to the keyboard  
controller -- I'm looking for a nice, authentically piano-like  
weighted action. Don't need any onboard sounds. Don't want to break  
the bank. I'm hoping to get a complete package (including a pair of  
studio monitors I can place on top of the keyboard) for under $1000  
(and the Garritan software is $400).


Hi Darcy,

Far be it from a clarinet player to give advice, about keyboards but...

I've used a Fatar controller for years and love the feel.  Now days  
they're being marketed under the Studiologic name.  Go here:


http://www.studiologic.net/sl-161pro.html

and look around a bit.  I'm not sure if all of their controllers use  
Fatar keyboards, so make sure you're looking for that.




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Re: [Finale] Playback question

[Dick Hauser]

I'm working from F07, so you're screens may be different, but I'm  
wondering if you made changes to staff assignments in the instruments  
window.  On my system, there is a window drop down from the menu bar  
which has a choice for the instruments window.  That window has two  
choices for view.  One is instruments and the other staves.  If you  
select the instruments window, then you have to option to add  
instruments and assign them to midi channels and such.  Did you do  
that step in addition to making changes in the SoftSynth setup?


As to the harpsichord sound, I'm of no use.

Dick H

On Mar 3, 2010, at 11:51 PM, dc wrote:

Apologies for this very basic question. I tried what the manual  
suggests here but to no avail.


How do I use a different soundfont for playback? I made the change  
in the SoftSynth settings, but this seems to have no effect on the  
sound. (This soundfont is supposed to have only one instrument. Why  
do I still have all the others?)


Has anyone ever managed to get a decent harpsichord sound from Finale?

Thanks,

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Re: [Finale] FinWin 2010 Freeze

[Dick Hauser]

Thanks so much for publishing the solution.

Dick

On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

And so, a false alarm. Finale works with the latest Nvidia drivers  
(196.21,

1/19/10) but froze with the earlier ones (195.62 11/26/09).




On Mon, March 1, 2010 10:44 am, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

Hi all,

I was just about to send this when I found a partial but  
unsatisfactory

solution.

Finale 2010 will NOT run on my second monitor. My default monitor  
for Finale

is the second monitor, running on a GeForce 9400 GT in portrait mode.

It will run on the main monitor just fine, but moving it to the  
second monitor

causes it to freeze.

Any solution for that? :)

Dennis



Message I was about to send, in case anybody else has this  
experience:



Hi all,

Figured I'd start here rather than the morass of support.

Finale 2010, Windows XP Pro SP3, all patches, Intel Core2 Duo 3GHz,  
2GB

memory, dual monitor, sound external (USB) Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.

Upon running Finale, it opens the splash screen. I can close it,  
change my
arrangement of tools, change preferences, etc. I can close and re- 
open the
program and the new preferences are in place. Finale is registered  
(yes, it

could do that, too).

But when I open any document including the default document (whether
preferences are set to scroll view or page view), the program  
freezes. The
mouse cursor over Finale disappears. If I switch to another program  
and back,
the menu bar is gone (white) and the cursor then appears as an  
hourglass. At
this point it looks like a typical hung application, and CPU  
dedicated to
Finale is between 48-52% and issuing a constant stream of page  
faults (6 per

second).

In case it was a slow first run, I have waited about a half hour  
with no

change. I have also reinstalled Finale and the Garritan instruments.

That's it. I have to force the program closed.

Anybody else see this and get it running?

Thanks,
Dennis





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Re: [Finale] Exchange work F07 09

[Dick Hauser]

Thanks, Jari (and Eric) we'll give that a try

Dick

On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Jari Williamsson wrote:


Dick Hauser wrote:
What are some ways to share work between a version of F07 and F09?   
Can the F09 be saved down to 07?  Can 09 read the 07?  Both  
computers are Mac.


MusicXML.

mvh/
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[Finale] Exchange work F07 09

[Dick Hauser]

What are some ways to share work between a version of F07 and F09?   
Can the F09 be saved down to 07?  Can 09 read the 07?  Both  
computers are Mac.


Dick H
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Re: [Finale] F2007 printing Glitch

[Dick Hauser]

On Dec 4, 2009, at 4:22 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:

Try turning off Smart Hyphens and Word Extensions in lyric options.  
I think it might be an errant word extension.


Right you are, Allen.  Thank you, that saves me several hours of work  
re-creating the file.


And also, thank you to Noel and Barbara for taking the time to  
respond.  Makes this list a great place to spend time.  Barbara, I'm  
going to figure out how to host a file share page on my web site  
because of your suggestion.  It's something I've meant to do but I've  
never given sufficient time to get it done.


Phillip, you were right!  it was word extensions!  I never would have  
guessed that.


The event went fine.  As it turned out the errant line on the music  
notation was the least of our worries!


in appreciation,


Dick H
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Re: [Finale] F2007c printing glitch

[Dick Hauser]

Thanks for your questions, Noel, sorry I was so unclear.

The seven files are all ~.mus.  They include chords, notes, repeats,  
and lyrics.


Each is an individual file (not a linked part).

The file that I am printing from is also a ~.mus file.  Two pages.   
Dark line is on page one.


I just looked around for an option to create a ~.tif, but didn't see  
it.  Is that process analogous to creating a PDF from the print menu?   
If so, then I can report that the PDF viewed on the screen in the Mac  
app Preview has no line, but the printed copy does.


The line is just at the point where I've pasted a bit into the file,  
as you suspect.  I'll make a copy of the large file, delete that  
section and check the print out and report back.


**

Philip said that my description sounded like a lyric word extension  
error.


I've taken a look at that, Philip, thanks for the suggestion.  When I  
edit word extensions, I don't see anything out of sorts.  In addition,  
the line doesn't look like one made for word extensions.  I know  
that's not definitive, but it's much darker and thicker and located  
below the lyrics instead of even with the bottom of them.  Can't point  
you to a picture, because I'd have to print, then scan and I don't  
have a scanner.


The event is tonight, and I'm not going to re create the document  
today, so I'll just hand out the part and apologize to the musicians  
for the errant line.




Thanks again, Noel and Philip for taking the time.

Dick H

Dual 2 Ghz G5 PPC, 4  Gig, OSX 10.5.8, QT 7.6.4, iTunes 9.0.1, DP  
6.02, Clockworks v 1.51, Cuemix Console v 1.42, PCI Audio Midi Set up  
v 1.4.12, 1224, 2408 MkII, MTPAV, Morpheus, DMPro



On Dec 3, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:


Dick Hauser wrote:

I've assembled a lead sheet from seven other short files.  Open  
the small file and copy paste into the lead sheet.  In one of the  
songs, a horizontal line shows up only when printing.  It doesn't  
show up on the screen.  Even if I make a PDF it doesn't show up  
till I print.  It's just below the lyrics of one staff and starts  
with the first lyric and runs horizontally to the right page  
margin.  So far, I've tried the following:


Edit lyrics change style to underline; save file open file change  
lyrics style to plain.


Edit lyrics, delete that song; save file open file paste in lyrics  
and click assign.


select the page layout tool and increase the separation of the  
systems on either side of the horizontal line.


I'm confused, again, but maybe more detail would help.  What exactly  
is in each of the files you are trying to cut and paste? Do you have  
one Finale score file, and six or seven text files, or are you  
trying to copy bits between Finale files?  Are you trying to print  
out a ~.mus file, or a graphics file? What happens if you export the  
entire page as a ~.tif file, and view that file in image processing  
software? Is the line at the point where you've pasted a bit into  
the file?


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[Finale] F2007 printing Glitch

[Dick Hauser]

Ok, that was interesting:

I deleted the eight measures that had the underline in them, and  
printed the document again.  When I printed the document, the line was  
still there (just under the lyrics of the eight measures that were  
moved up to take the place of those I had just deleted).


I loaded the original file and created a ~.ps file.  I dragged that  
into my word processor (Pages on the Mac) and got a 300+ page of  
printer instructions that I'm overwhelmed by.  It's a repeating  
general pattern of pages where we have about ten pages of stuff like  
this:


***
%!PS-Adobe-2.0
%%Title: Friday Night Zikr Viola.mus
%%Creator: Finale 2007
%%CreationDate: (12/4/09) (8:29 AM)
%%Pages: 2
%%DocumentFonts: (atend)
%%EndComments
%%BeginProlog
/FinaleDict 100 dict def
FinaleDict begin
/finPSvers (3.8.2) def
/bdf{bind def}bind def
/ldf{load def}bdf
/m/moveto ldf
/L/lineto ldf
/t/show ldf
/C/curveto ldf
/gs/gsave ldf
*
Followed by 30 or so pages of stuff like this:
**
8A10F4835E26BA827FD2A9C8EFFD2C327C3949FD7C3AA55AFA19124FD7E02669902D18A14B2641139B33273C6BC193BCAA33AB6A6E805FBE6499331681A0D2BF5BE5A6A4C785408CFF4ACD345FD67EA053023602E1316CA9EABE1C4A91D14089768D19EBAF62EB25064AFB05CE9AD44B962D2CFB398C77F144FC6699486116C35D0419858CCB10036A2528E3A38E64A3C7B2102894D7FFCEDDD60077E68296FDAAC6A194B8A311C0A97AEAA6862F6BB5F6C326CF3E527BFF48F608D7AC02A76E6
**
Those two different kinds of patters repeat a bunch of times till we  
get to the end of the 320 or so pages.


I know some of you could make sense of what was going on there, but  
honestly, I don't think I have the skills to understand an  
explanation, much less try solutions at this level.


However, when I double click on the post script file, it is opened by  
the Mac app Preview.  And sure enough, the line is there.


So it looks like I've imbedded some character that draws a line at  
that point.   Best solution is probably to re create the file.


I don't have time (as I just said in a previous post) to redo the  
whole file today, but I'm convinced that it's the only way that I'll  
get a clean print.


Thanks all for your time.

Dick H
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[Finale] Collaboration Mac PC

[Dick Hauser]

I use F2007 on a Mac (10.5.8) and a friend has just asked whether it's  
possible to collaborate on notation with him since he uses a PC.  He's  
willing to buy Finale.  My initial response, was:  No it's just not  
practical,  He wanted me to find out how those of you that actually  
do this, manage to pull it off.  Anyone actually do Mac and PC  
collaboration?


Dick H
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Re: [Finale] Collaboration Mac PC

[Dick Hauser]

Thanks all who responded.  Nice to know it works fine.  We'll not be  
doing anything unusual, so I wouldn't anticipate problems.





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Re: [Finale] More problems staff styles....no names

[Dick Hauser]

On Aug 26, 2009, at 5:33 AM, Richard Yates wrote:

I don't know if 'Compile PostScript listing' ever worked. Get an app  
like

PrintToPDF ( http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/pdf.html ).


Depending on your operating system version, you may be able to save  
as PDF from the first print dialogue.  Does the lower left corner of  
the first print dialogue have a PDF button pull down?


Dick H


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Re: [Finale] test

[Dick Hauser]

Hey!  Hold it down you two, I'm trying to  
sleep...



On Aug 15, 2009, at 6:15 PM, Jim Hale wrote:


Showing up fine on this end. :)

Jim Hale
Hale Recordings
573-727-6511


-Original Message-
From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On  
Behalf Of

toronado...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 8:06 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] test

Thanks. :-)

I'm not seeing [Finale] in the subject line in my posts. Is there  
something

I'm doing wrong?


On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Jim Hale jim- 
m...@halerecordings.com wrote:



Passed. :)

Jim Hale
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573-727-6511


-Original Message-
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Behalf

Of
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test
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[Finale] Database for OSX

[Dick Hauser]

You could look through these suggestions:

http://osx.hyperjeff.net/Apps/apps?sub=21

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Re: [Finale] Fonts for text-related items in scores

[Dick Hauser]

On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote:


At 10:56 AM +0200 7/9/09, Jonathan Smith wrote:

Just out of interest, I did a survey a long time ago with singers -  
to see which font they preferred to read for lyrics. The vast  
majority elected a sans serif font, one with a more 'hand written'  
look to it than a classic 'printers' font.


It's been a long time since I've posted here, but this is a pet  
topic of mine.


I really appreciate your taking the time, Mark.  That email is one for  
my Finale Archive.


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Re: [Finale] new computer lab

[Dick Hauser]

On Jun 21, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Mark McCarron wrote:



the school I teach at has a new music computer lab. Complete with 18  
workstations imacs, m-audio keyboards and soundtree talkback  
headsets. Installed software includes Finale, Band in the box, DP,  
Protools, Auralia, Garageband.


I'm looking for information newsgroups, blogs etc. that will help me  
deal with high school students, and come up with ideas for projects.


For DP, this  MOTU BBS:

http://www.motunation.com/forum/index.php

is weighted to the recording side of things, but the membership is  
very knowledgeable.


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Re: [Finale] Garritan sample pathway problem

[Dick Hauser]

On May 22, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:


Duh!  Took me a day to figure it out.


Did you fix that by renaming the drive, or did you do some process to  
let Kontakt know that the drive was where it should look?


Dick H

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Re: [Finale] OT: iTunes Properties and MP3 Comments

[Dick Hauser]

On Apr 6, 2009, at 7:27 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


I use iTunes for only one purpose, as an MP3 player (I like the
equalization and the files sound better played through it than
through anything else on my computer).

I note that iTunes stores data in the Comments field. When I view the
properties of these files through Windows Explorer, I see something
like this:

02DE 03CB 0837 0AF2 B08E B08E 3E9F
4855 9AAD 9AAD

I've always assumed this was data about equalization and such.

Now I've put some files up on the web that were copied from my
machine and they have this kind of data in the comments fields. Will
this change the way these files play for others using iTunes? An
example would be the third file on this page:

 http://tearesofthemuses.com/Listen/

Is this a problem? Should I clear these comments before uploading?


Sorry David, I don't have a definitive answer.

 However, as a long time Mac/iTunes user, I'd like to contribute some  
guesses.  First of all, I'd be amazed if items in the content field  
affected playback.  Secondly, I thought the adjustments like the  
equalizer were for playback only so if you wanted to capture an audio  
performance which used the playback settings of your particular song,  
you'd have to burn a version with your settings.   Couldn't confirm  
either of these beliefs with a quick query of the Apple knowledge  
base, however.


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Re: [Finale] playback stutters

[Dick Hauser]

It's always when you're working on a project, isn't it!  Since F06 is  
still working for you, I'd got back to that to finish the project, if  
you think that's possible.


I'm hoping that someone using F09 can make suggestions, but while you  
wait, take a look at instructions for Garritan.  The symptom you've  
described sure seems like it's related to Garritan trying to pass  
along the samples to Finale.  Are there settings in Garritan that  
would lessen the volume of data that has to be exchanged?


Dick H

On Mar 29, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Bonnie Harris wrote:


Hi,
Please help?  Newly installed Finale 2009, upgrade from 2006d.   
Playback stutters badly no matter whether Smartmusic Softsynth,  
QuickTime, or Garriton.  I'm on PowerMac G5 1.8 GHZ, 1 G RAM, OS  
10.4.3.  All of my other MIDI and audio apps work fine, including  
Finale 2006.  Is Finale 2009 just too overloaded w/Garriton sounds  
or is something else going on?  Should I trash the preferences,  
reinstall, or what?
The manual isn't any help (and a hassle, to boot, I think they broke  
it w/scrollbars for HTML, I very much preferred Acrobat Reader or  
even MacPreview)
Thanks for any help, I have a project due, playback would sure make  
a difference.

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Re: [Finale] playback stutters

[Dick Hauser]

On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:25 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:


How so? Bonnie says the symptom exists with SmartSynth playback, too,
which doesn't involve Garritan at all.


Good point, David.
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Re: [Finale] playback stutters

[Dick Hauser]

I also note, that the minimum requirement for Tiger (OS 10.4) is 256  
MB and F09 is 512 MB (with Garritan requiring at least 1GB) so the  
computer only has about 230 MB of ram to play with (if my memory is  
correct that she said it has 1 GB).  I'd still try to find some way to  
use play back sounds that used as little memory as possible.



On Mar 30, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

Actually, I believe the new playback engine in Fin2009 uses Audio  
Units for everything -- SmartSynth playback as well as Garritan  
sounds -- so I suspect Bonnie's problem is in some way related to  
her AU setup.


Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY

On 30 Mar 2009, at 6:14 PM, Dick Hauser wrote:



On Mar 30, 2009, at 10:25 AM, David W. Fenton wrote:

How so? Bonnie says the symptom exists with SmartSynth playback,  
too,

which doesn't involve Garritan at all.


Good point, David.
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Re: [Finale] migrating mac computers

[Dick Hauser]

On Mar 28, 2009, at 1:47 PM, Mark McCarron wrote:

Should I re-install Finale or will the migration process take care  
of the de-authorize re-authorize process


Yes, re-install is the only way to go.  First, de-authorize on the old  
computer, then do your Finale re-install.


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Re: [Finale] Chords - Fretboard

[Dick Hauser]

Nice, Allen, that works much better than disabling them one at a time.

Dick H

On Mar 24, 2009, at 8:19 PM, Allen Fisher wrote:

Can't you just turn on fretboards and select where you do not want  
them to appear and do Utilities--Change--Chord Assignments and  
uncheck fretboards?


On Mar 24, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


Hi Larry,

Thanks. Ouch, that is a bit painstaking if you only want two  
fretboards at the top of the chart! But good to know it can be done.


Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY

On 24 Mar 2009, at 1:35 PM, Larry Beekman wrote:


Hi Darcy,
It turns out that what I said in my last post is, in fact, exactly  
what I did:


1. show fretboards (fretboard appear for every chord - so you're  
right, it is global)
2. turn off fretboards you don't want one by one in the chord  
definitive dialogue box.


There might be an easier way, but I'm not aware of it. If anyone  
else knows a better way, let me know.


Larry
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www.larrybeekman.com



On Mar 23, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


Hi Larry,

Actually, when I check Fretboard for one chord, it shows  
fretboards for every chord.


FinMac2008.

Cheers,

- Darcy
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Brooklyn, NY

On 23 Mar 2009, at 2:44 PM, Larry Beekman wrote:


Hi Darcy,
You can. You just have to check or uncheck fretboard for each  
chord. Its not global.


Also, thanks for all the help you (and everyone) else have  
unknowingly given me. I don't write in much, but I read most of  
the posts. I glad  there's actually something I can help with  
for a change.


By the way, I don't see my posts come back to me from list so  
I'm never sure if they actually make it. Is that normal?

Larry Beekman
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www.larrybeekman.com



On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:


I asked this before and didn't get a response:

Is it possible to show fretboards for only selected chord  
symbols? Or are we confined to a global all-or-nothing setting?


- Darcy
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Re: [Finale] Chords - Fretboard

[Dick Hauser]

On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Larry Beekman wrote:

I still am not getting my own messages back from the list. Does  
anyone know why that would be? Thanks,

Larry


Larry,

I know it's obvious, but have you checked the subscriber options under  
your account to see that receive copies of your emails is set up the  
way you want it?


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Re: [Finale] Mac Finale 2009b crashes on launch

[Dick Hauser]

On Feb 18, 2009, at 7:26 AM, Florence + Michael wrote:


I just updated Finale 2009 to 2009b on my Powerbook


Sorry to say that I don't have a suggestion, but I am going to follow  
this thread with interest.  My crash on start was with F2008.  Never  
did get it to work.


I had thought that it was due to a conflict with MOTU PCI drivers, but  
another person on the list recently reported similar problems without  
any of those in the system, so it's something else.  I don't remember  
them reporting a fix.


Is your audio being routed through any non CORE  drivers?

Let us know what you come up with.

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Re: [Finale] Problem with F2k9 starting up (OS X)

[Dick Hauser]

This is what happened to me with 2008.  Never got it to work.  Mem  
test didn't find anything, After exhausting everyones good advice, to  
no avail, I tried completely reformating the disk and reinstalling all  
programs from scratch.  Still didn't work.  I could run it with out  
the MOTU software that I use for DAW and audio I/O, but as soon as I  
installed it, I'd have the crash on start at the same spot you did.


Are you using MOTU software or hardware?  What computer and system are  
you using.


Dick H
On Feb 1, 2009, at 12:17 AM, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote:

I was wondering whether anyone else had encountered a problem  
wherein Finale 2009 won't start up at all.  It gets to the  
Initializing MIDI stage and then crashes.  The Crash Log says


Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0xbf70

I've trashed every Finale preference and plist file I can find,  
rebuilt my MIDI system from scratch, re-installed Finale 2009,  
restarted innumerable times, created a new user and tried to open it  
from there but without success.  It's extremely frustrating in every  
respect.


Finale 2007 starts up fine (as well as it does in Leopard).

Short of starting from scratch and reinstalling the entire system  
and the entire drive, any suggestions?


Thanks for any tips,

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Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?

[Dick Hauser]

Yes, FN08 was instaled under Tiger and also after an upgrade to Leopard.

If you care to, Go to /System/Library/Extensions/
and highlight  MOTUPCIAudio.kext  the version on my PPC is 1.2.2.  I'd  
be interested to see that yours is the same.


Dick H

On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Mark McCarron wrote:

I'm using whatever drivers came with the 2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is  
the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger involved too?



dual powermac G5 2.7ghz
Mac OS 10.4.11


-Mark


--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale -  
compatibility?

To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM
On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote:


I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've

never had

compatability issues with any and all versions of

Finale.


Mac OS 10.4.11


Right, it's a mystery to me also.  As I said, I
wasn't able to pin it
down.  Just for chuckles, what are the specs  of your
computer?  Are
you using the MOTU audio driver?

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Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?

[Dick Hauser]

Thank you, Mark for checking.  Guess that's not the smoking gun.

Dick H

On Dec 17, 2008, at 7:18 PM, Mark McCarron wrote:


yes, mine is the same 1.1.2.

I've never installed Leopard.


Mark McCarron


--- On Wed, 12/17/08, Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale -  
compatibility?

To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 3:20 PM
Yes, FN08 was instaled under Tiger and also after an upgrade
to Leopard.

If you care to, Go to /System/Library/Extensions/
and highlight  MOTUPCIAudio.kext  the version on my PPC is
1.2.2.  I'd
be interested to see that yours is the same.

Dick H

On Dec 17, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Mark McCarron wrote:


I'm using whatever drivers came with the

2408mkIII. I use DP6. Is

the compatability issue with leopard only or is tiger

involved too?



dual powermac G5 2.7ghz
Mac OS 10.4.11


-Mark


--- On Tue, 12/16/08, Dick Hauser

rdhau...@comcast.net wrote:



From: Dick Hauser rdhau...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with

Finale -

compatibility?
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 6:55 PM
On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote:


I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card.

I've

never had

compatability issues with any and all versions

of

Finale.


Mac OS 10.4.11


Right, it's a mystery to me also.  As I said,

I

wasn't able to pin it
down.  Just for chuckles, what are the specs  of

your

computer?  Are
you using the MOTU audio driver?

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Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?

[Dick Hauser]

On Dec 16, 2008, at 1:32 PM, Mark McCarron wrote:

I use a MOTU 2408mkIII with a 424pci card. I've never had  
compatability issues with any and all versions of Finale.


Mac OS 10.4.11


Right, it's a mystery to me also.  As I said, I wasn't able to pin it  
down.  Just for chuckles, what are the specs  of your computer?  Are  
you using the MOTU audio driver?


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Re: [Finale] 424 PCI card in Mac with Finale - compatibility?

[Dick Hauser]

On Dec 14, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Bonnie Janofsky wrote:

A friend of mine has conflicts with Finale 2008 and his 424 PCI card  
with his MOTU 2408, 3rd version if I recall correctly.  Has anyone  
found this Finale 2008 incompatibility?  And is it corrected in  
Finale 2009?


I was never able to get F08 to work with my 424PCI.  I went through an  
extensive trouble shooting session at MM and MOTU without success.  I  
went so far as to reformat the system disk (using the option that  
takes like a day to write over the whole disc), install all software  
and updates and still got the Finale Crash on Start.  Removing  
MOTUPCIAudio.kext would let Finale run, but then, of course, DP  
wouldn't run and all audio went to the computer speaker.  Rather than  
use a separate startup disc with F08 and no PCI driver (and have only  
sound from the computer speaker) I decided to stay with F07.  Here is  
my setup:





Dick H

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DP 6.01, Clockworks v 1.51
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Re: [Finale] OT

[Dick Hauser]

On Nov 25, 2008, at 9:58 PM, Richard Yates wrote:


I don't know Mac, but in Windows the camera chip that you read in the
computer is just another memory device to which you can save files.  
Files
from any source can be saved to the chip and the chip then plugged  
into the

frame.


Right, same on the Mac.  So if the frame uses a flash card, you need  
to mount it on the computer in some way.  The computer needs to have  
some kind of card reader interface.  Might be a camera, printer, could  
be one of those usb flash drives.  Then its just a drag and drop  
thing.   Look for flash drive on Amazon and other places like it.  I  
bought one for about $10 and used an extra card from a camera.  It  
mounts just like a one gig drive via a usb port.




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Re: [Finale] Bounces

[Dick Hauser]

On Nov 18, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Leigh Daniels wrote:

The problem for some of us is that our service providers (Comcast in  
my

case) are blocking messages from SHSU so we never receive bounce
messages.


Leigh,

When I was looking into my bounces, I read some text on the Comcast  
site that claimed that they did not screen or block messages (unless  
set up by a user).  Now that's just a claim, and I may have  
misinterpreted, but I'm interested in why you think it's the case.  Is  
that an assumption, or did you get some clarification about how the  
Comcast system works from someone?  I entered a live chat with a  
service technician, and they didn't volunteer any information about  
screening server messages or anything.  I had specifically said that I  
was not getting information about bounces too.


Just curious.  Thanks

Dick H
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Re: [Finale] O.T. Iconography in Music History

[Dick Hauser]

On Nov 15, 2008, at 9:47 AM, John Howell wrote:


I thought exponential dealt with powers of 10 or some such thing


It sounds to me like your remembering logarithm.  In this context,  
exponential just means that the formula describing the line would have  
at least one exponent.  Like Y equals something squared.


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Re: [Finale] BBBOOOOUUUNNNEEESSSS

[Dick Hauser]

On Nov 13, 2008, at 6:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


What kind of bounces are these?


From the server to an account.  That's why one can't see any  
information related to the bounce.


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Re: [Finale] BBBOOOOUUUNNNEEESSSS

[Dick Hauser]

This is good news to me.  I've always been a bit frustrated that when  
bounces occur, there is no way for the end user (me) to fix the  
problem.  In the case of this list, the only thing we can do is send  
an email to you - which you doubtless get tired of.


So let me say in advance: Thanks for your hospitality!

Dick H

On Nov 13, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Howey, Henry wrote:


I have been forwarding all bounce instances to a tech.


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Re: [Finale] OT: switching to a new computer

[Dick Hauser]

On Aug 19, 2008, at 4:08 AM, mystrom1 wrote:


I currently have a Mac Powerbook G4
running OS 10.3.9 (I need to be able to continue to run Finale 2003a
on Classic), and so I'm planning on purchasing a new iMac so I can run
a newer version of Finale.


The utilities that come with the Mac do work well as some responders  
have said.  Make sure to nose around the Apple Knowledge Base for  
instructions that are as close to your situation as you can find.   
This link might be where you need to start:


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1585?viewlocale=en_US

May the force be with you.

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Re: [Finale] Sibelius is doing it again

[Dick Hauser]

Good summary, David.  Thanks.

Dick H

On Jul 25, 2008, at 4:31 AM, dhbailey wrote:


Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Ok, so what should I do: I have Fin2k7. I am tempted to upgrade to  
2k9. Or should I crossgrade to Sibelius?

Johannes



Good question, and one that only you can really answer.

What I have found in working with Sibelius5 is that it is as easy to  
get

data entry as Finale's Speedy Entry is.  I can do the initial entry
equally fast in both programs.  What I like in Sib5 is that you can
ctrl-click to select non-contiguous objects to work on --  
application of

a large number of articulations is easier in Sib5 than in Finale up
through 2008 (I can't speak for 2009)...


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Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

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On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Robert Patterson wrote:


I did upgrade one computer from 10.4, and I found it to be the
most annoying and troublesome upgrade ever foisted on me by Apple. (It
was still far easier than major Windows upgrades, though.)


My system is not very complex, but I found the move from 10.4 to 10.5  
very painless.  I used the archive and install option.



Dick H
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Re: [Finale] OT: question re Canadian copyright

[Dick Hauser]

On Jun 25, 2008, at 4:50 PM, Lora Crighton wrote:


Would we need to get anyone's
permission for this, and how would we go about it if
we do?


Here is a Canadian specific site:

http://www.united-church.ca/local/copyright

Years ago, my church here in the US researched ways to comply, but we  
didn't solve it.  We found that the church focused  services that  
granted use in celebrations, didn't include all of the music that we  
drew from and concluded that we'd have to pay several of them to cover  
80 or 90 percent of what we wanted.  It was more expensive that we  
could consider and we'd looked around a good bit so we just stopped  
looking for a solution. Let us know what your church decides to do.   
I'd be interested.


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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

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On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i understand the frustration and aggrevation that your crashes  
creates, but i can't understand why your versions do crash.
has the permissions been repaired? faulty fonts found? used an app  
like Cocktail to clean up the system?

checked weather it might be a faulty au-plug?



When I was futzing with this back in September 07, (Hiro helped alot)  
I went so far as to wipe the disk, and install from scratch.  F2008  
would start until I installed another app (digital performer) which  
routed audio through my PCI card.  Further, I found that if I removed  
MOTUPCIAudio.kext from my system extension folder, Finale would run.   
If I ran installers to put it back (moving copies didn't work for some  
reason) then Finale would crash on start.  Hiro went so far as to test  
on a system he had using a PCI card but could not replicate.  I got  
tired of the guessing game at that point and went back to F2007.





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[Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

[Dick Hauser]

Just for jollies, I updated to Quicktime 7.5 and 2007c.r2 seems as  
happy as ever (still crashes on quit, though).  And for those keeping  
score, 2008 still crashes on start on my system.  The Printmusic 2008  
demo works happily, however.


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[Finale] OT: Recorders

[Dick Hauser]

Haven't been reading this thread until today, so someone may have  
already posted this link, but I thought this site:


http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/portable-recorder-sound-samples.html

Very helpful.

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Re: [Finale] Sturgeoun's Law (was Partial tuplets in Finale)

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On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:18 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

I believe my compositions are much better than most of whatever I hear
commercially, yet I have this strong feeling my compositions will die
when I die :-(


Yes, it's so hard to find a good patron these days!

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Re: [Finale] The Finale School

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On Feb 19, 2008, at 9:27 PM, Matthew Voogt wrote:

It is a website that is totally free and offers video tutorials  
about anything and everything related to Finale. Check it out...  
let me know what you think.


Great idea, Matthew.  I'm not tempted to purchase any of the videos,  
however.  I just demoed the staff tool tutorial available from the  
home page.  Your audio quality is a bit distracting to me.  I guess  
I'd say amateur.  Fine if you're doing it for fun, but not if you're  
selling.  Also, when I'm viewing a presentation to try to learn  
something, I'd like a script that is a bit more linear.


I think that the tutorials at this site are really good.

http://www.tutorialdepot.com/index2.html

 I've subscribed to the Digital Performer series, as a matter of fact.

Good luck!  And thanks for sharing.

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Re: [Finale] OT: OSX backup software suggestions?

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On Feb 4, 2008, at 7:14 PM, Fisher, Allen wrote:


 All of this is free


But there is that pesky donate  dialogue that pops up at the end of  
each operation..


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Re: [Finale] finale 2008a quits on start up

[Dick Hauser]

On Jan 31, 2008, at 12:18 PM, jerry kalaf wrote:

does anyone have any ideas about this. I'm on a G5 w/10.4.11 and  
have been using 2008 for months. nothing has been installed or  
changed. the program quits as the splash screen is done  
initializing midi and long enough to re-establish preferences. by  
the way I have removed preferences and receipts and re-installed  
the program.


I'm sorry to say that I don't have any ideas about this.  I've not  
been able to get 2008(a) to run on my computer.  I gave up after a  
month of following the reasonable advice of others on this list and  
of the tech support at MM.  Refer to Case: 070920-000411 if you  
contact them.  It seemed to me that it had to do with the interface  
of core audio, the motu pci card that I use (and its software  
drivers) with MM.  Hiro even went so far at one point as to install  
an identical card on one of his computers to try to replicate, but  
had no success.  He spent a lot of time on it too.  I went as far as  
to copy my system to a different disk and then from there did a  
complete format and install of a new system.  F2008 would run until I  
installed the pci software and the motu sequencer.  Since I use that  
program the most, I've decided to just stay at F2007 until something  
changes.  Interesting that you had it working for a while and then it  
stopped.  Others that use the motu gear and software on this list  
have no problems, so it's not a simple thing.  Let us know how you  
make out.


Best of Luck

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Re: [Finale] finale 2008a quits on start up

[Dick Hauser]

On Jan 31, 2008, at 4:04 PM, Bob Morabito wrote:



This morning they advised me to totally uninstall it, and reinstall..


MM tech support told me that Finale did not have an uninstaller.   
Did they give you any information about how to do the uninstall?


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Re: [Finale] Help with Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF File

[Dick Hauser]

On Dec 26, 2007, at 2:28 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:


I just discovered that some CDs have gone bad and want to recreate
them, but all I have is an Easy CD Creator 3.5c CIF image.


I'm working on a Mac so I can't test this, but have you looked at  
this app?


http://www.magiciso.com/



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Re: [Finale] 2008a Leopard problems

[Dick Hauser]

Tell us a bit more about your system and what you've done so far.   
I'm interested to know if you're using a PCI audio interface.


Dick

On Dec 10, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:






Hi all,



Just installed Leopard, and Finale will not open.  It crashes on  
opening.  Relaunch does nothing different.  There was one widow  
that offered reset and relaunch (don't know how I got that to  
come up, but that did nothing either.


Help please!

Chuck

Chuck Israels
230 North Garden Terrace
Bellingham, WA 98225-5836
phone (360) 671-3402
fax (360) 676-6055
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Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:06 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Have you tried trashing Finale pref as I suggested?


Sorry, didn't report back on that.  Yes, I had tried deleting  
preferences with no change in crash on quit.


In you crash log, this appears in line 2:

2   ...u.driver.PCIAudio.HALPlugIn 	0x0799df8c  
PlugInDevice::GetProperty

(unsigned long, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long*, void*) + 384

In my guess, what this is telling you is Finale is calling PCI424  
driver

then receives something Finale doesn't understand and crashes.


I like that analysis, but don't know what to do about it.  I'll send  
to MM tech Monday AM.




You should also try assign Built-in under AMS to see if Finale  
still crashes.


Actually, this is something that the MM tech had me try and no  
change.  Sorry I didn't include that in one of the original posts.


On the AD option in Audio/Midi Setup.  I'm surprised that it is 24bit  
with no 16bit choice.


Thanks for your time on this, Hiro.  I'll report back when something  
significant happens.


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Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 24, 2007, at 12:58 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

Have you tried uninstalling the Audio Drivers, then reinstalling  
them? I have an M-Audio card that does something similar...and  
uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers works most of the time.


Thanks, Eric.  While I haven't unstalled the drivers, I have  
deleted and installed again from fresh downloads.  It can't hurt,  
though, so I'll look around tonight for an uninstaller.


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Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 24, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

You have a MOTU interface(s) right? I believe they have an  
installer that will remove the drivers. If not, contact their  
support. They have great email support...unlike some other  
program we all know.


Thanks, I'll contact them.

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Re: [Finale] Re: Audio/Midi

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 24, 2007, at 3:20 PM, David Froom wrote:



On my system (PB 1.33GHz PowerPC G4, OS 10.4.10) I have the choice  
between 2-ch, 16bit or 2-ch, 24bit.  I have this choice in both  
input and output.





Interesting David.  Thank you.

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Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 24, 2007, at 12:53 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Dick Hauser / 07.9.24 / 3:32 PM wrote:


While I haven't unstalled the drivers, I have
deleted and installed again from fresh downloads.


How did you delete it?  The driver is here:
/System/Library/Extensions/
And you can't delete them unless you do sudo rm from CLI.


Ah! I see.  No I just deleted the Apps (Clockworks, MOTU PCI Audio  
Setup, Cuemix)


I'm not comfortable with running command from the terminal window  
(although I do run sudo periodic a few times a month).  So I'm going  
to wait a bit on this Hiro.  I'll run the DiskUtility from the  
installer disk as you suggested.


Thanks again,

Dick
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[Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open

[Dick Hauser]

If any mac owners have the time to test.

In working on my problem of F2k8 crash on open, I've noticed that the  
Audio Midi Setup pane of OS is set to 2-ch 24-bit.  The MM tech  
mentioned that Finale only wants 16 bit, but since the crash seems to  
happen when Finale is initializing midi (not Core midi, after that)  
he decided not to pursue it.  Just for laughs, I decided to try  
booting with the Audio Midi Setup set at 16-bit.  However, the format  
pull down for Audio/Midi Setup has no option but 24-bit.


The only place in my system that I've found so far that can change  
bit depth, is in Digital Performer which has a preference pane which  
allows one to specify the bit depth of newly recorded material.   
Changing that back and forth seemed to have no effect on the Audio/ 
Midi Setup configuration.


So I'm curious, does any one have options in that Audio/Midi Setup  
pull down?


Dick H

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2408 MkII
MTPAV
Morpheus
DMPro

G5 Dual 2 Ghz
4  Gig
OSX 10.4.10
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Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:01 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Dick Hauser / 07.9.21 / 0:48 PM wrote:


I offered up the crash log but the tech didn't want it.  My initial
post included the first bit of it but it's so long, I didn't include
it all.  I'll send it to you off list.


I received it.  I am not a programmer but here is my guesses.


I'm grateful for your time.  You may not be a programmer, but your  
experience is valuable and I appreciate your sharing.


Your HAL (hardware Abstraction Layer) is crashing.


OK, but my name's not Dave  and 2001 was years ago
(sorry)


This most likely is
either your MIDI and/or audio device driver are crashing.  Are they up
to date?  What audio interface are you using?  It looks like a PCI
device, is it?


Audio interface is MOTU PCI 424 connected to a MOTU 1224 and 2408 MkII
Midi interface is MOTU MTP/AV

Drivers are:
Clockworks 1.51
PCI424 1.31
Cuemix 1.42




Does AMS see them correctly?


Sure seems like it to me.  I can do a midi studio test and get noise  
from both of the outboard devices (Emu Morpheus and Alesis DM Pro).   
Keyboard input is appropriately direct to the device specified in  
clockworks.



Does QT communicate both audio and MIDI
properly.


Yes.  I've loaded a midi file into quicktime and it plays just fine.   
Exported that to the desktop as midi and then dragged to DP5 which  
played without a problem (after changing output for midi to my Emu  
and DMP.




  Have you tried Safe Boot (Shift_Boot  Shift Login)?


No.  I'll try that later, but I'm flying blind.  I don't know what  
that might do to help (just my ignorance).


If app is crashing and tech support doesn't want crash log is simply
wrong to me.


indeed.

So I spent some time this morning trying to see if the drivers were  
up to date.  I'm a bit confused.  Downloading the the MOTU Audio  
Installer and the MOTU USB OSX Install v 1.3.6 results in two apps  
for audio and for cuemix.  On set is for PCI and the other not (MOTU  
Audio Setup vs MOTU PCI Audio Setup).  The PCI Audio Setup version is  
1.31 while the Audio Setup version is 1.4.4.  My thinking is that the  
MOTU PCI apps are the ones that I should be using since the interface  
is a PCI card.  That's born out by opening the MOTU Audio Setup app  
which has only one general option (already checked) which is Launch  
MOTU Audio Setup when hardware becomes available.


I'm going to see if there is a battery in the MTP/AV

And DP 5.12 seems perfectly happy.

I needed to print a few sheets of music so I booted Finale 2007 and  
It loaded, but after printing, I got a crash on quit.


And the computer is a Dual 2 GHZ PowerPC G5 with 4 GB ram running OS  
10.4.10


Thanks again.
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Re: [Finale] Klezmer music question

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Ruth H. Randle wrote:

I have been given a handwritten piece of Klezmer music to  
transcribe, called
Baym Rebn Sude. There are no chords, just a simple melody line. My  
problem is
this: It has 1 sharp (F) and 2 flats (B and E)! I was told that a)  
it is a very
simple piece, and b) the basic scale is D, Eb, F#, G, A, Bb, C and  
D. (However,
there are some B naturals indicated). He said it was sort of in  
the key of D,

maybe?

Is there any way to set this up in Finale so the key signature is  
correct? I
know nothing about Klezmer music, and I've never seen a key sig  
with sharps and
flats together. I am using Finale 2005 for Windows. Any help will  
be greatly
appreciated. A basic template would be even better, if someone  
knows how to do

it.


Hi Ruth.

Christopher has the right answer.  Use the Bb key signature with the  
F# where needed.


One of the Klezmer books that I have is The Compleat Klezmer by  
Henry Sapoznik.  He often uses that same notation.  His version of  
Baym Rebin's Sude, however, is up a step in E Ahava Raba mode.  There  
are 25 or so pages at the beginning of the book that supply some  
context and include a few pages that talk about the common modes and  
structure.  It's a bit pricey, though at $20.  Ahava Raba mode on D  
is kinda like D if adding a flat 2,6, and 7 retains any of the  
original major scale ;-)  Common chords would be D, Gm and Cm.


Good Luck

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Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 21, 2007, at 8:32 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


They didn't ask you for the crash log?
Why do you not post the crashed thread here as I suggested.



I missed that request, Hiro.

I offered up the crash log but the tech didn't want it.  My initial  
post included the first bit of it but it's so long, I didn't include  
it all.  I'll send it to you off list.


Thanks much.

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Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 20, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:



On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:13 AM, Dick Hauser wrote:



On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

The only time I ever had a bad address error is when I had a bad  
RAM chip.


MemTest is a shareware app that does a great job of detecting bad  
RAM. I highly recommend it.


Barring that, am I right in thinking that you have 2 X 2 GB  
chips? Try removing one and see if it crashes. Then try the other  
one.




OK, I'll run Mem Test tonight and see what I get.  I have 4 1 GB  
chips (that need to be installed in pairs, I think).  That's a  
different configuration than 2 X 2 GB, right?



That's OK. You just will have to test them by removing and  
replacing them in pairs. You could even mix pairs to track down  
exactly which chip out of the two is acting up, in fact, you will  
probably have to do this at some point.


Thank you again, Christopher.  You're right, we may get to that.

rember did not find any errors on all the memory (although I didn't  
run it with the option to turn off the finder - I'll start that   
tonight).  I called MM support.  They were fine.  Professional,  
courtious, efficient.


We looked at the startup screen and noted that the crash occured when  
the message initializing midi came up (after the initializing Core  
Midi) and so started to look at possibilities that something there  
was amiss.  We moved the Plug-in components out of the  
Library=Audio=Plug-ins=Components folder at the user and system  
level and still got the crash.  We disconnected the midi interface  
(MOTU Midi Timepeace AV)  and still got the crash with and without  
the plugins.


After that,  MM asked for a copy of my system profile and promised to  
study the problem more tomorrow.   I did a reinstall just because I  
had the time and we'd run out of ideas, but still no joy.  My bet is  
that when the tech gets back to me, he'll be on the trail of bad ram  
as you have suggested.


Dick H

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[Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start

[Dick Hauser]

This is a surprise, since it was working yesterday.  Well, not  
entirely true, I guess, since I did get this message once in a while  
but a restart  of the application always worked.


I'm on FMac2008.r2
OSX 10.4.10
Dual 2 GHz Power PC G5
4GB Ram

The first part of the error report looks like this:

 
***

Date/Time:  2007-09-19 18:35:38.946 -0700
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R218)
Report Version: 4

Command: Finale 2008
Path:/Applications/Finale 2008/Finale 2008.app/Contents/MacOS/ 
Finale 2008

Parent:  WindowServer [70]

Version: 13.0.r2 (13.0.r2)

PID:265
Thread: 0

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:  KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xfffe

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   0x8b94 __memcpy + 1012 (cpu_capabilities.h:189)
 



Of course, it follows with 25 or 30 threads of similar looking stuff,  
all of which means nothing to me.  I get the splash screen and it  
looks like the crash happens when the startup gets to the point of  
initializing midi.  I'll give MM tech a call tomorrow, but I'm  
curious to know any ideas from the list.


Worked last time I used it.  Since then, I've defraged the drive  
where my documents/projects are kept, but that's not where the apps  
are.  Can't think of anything else I might have done to upset  
things.  I reinstalled an HP printer driver after deleting the old  
one.  Printer seems to work fine.


I restarted a few times.  Shut down and restarted after a few minutes  
rest.  Repaired preferences and repeated the restart series.  Deleted  
Finale preferences and tried again.  That's about all I know to try.

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Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

The only time I ever had a bad address error is when I had a bad  
RAM chip.


MemTest is a shareware app that does a great job of detecting bad  
RAM. I highly recommend it.


Barring that, am I right in thinking that you have 2 X 2 GB chips?  
Try removing one and see if it crashes. Then try the other one.




OK, I'll run Mem Test tonight and see what I get.  I have 4 1 GB  
chips (that need to be installed in pairs, I think).  That's a  
different configuration than 2 X 2 GB, right?


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Re: [Finale] Select partial measures

[Dick Hauser]

On Sep 15, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote:


where is the menu item Select partial measures


On Mac it's just a click=drag thing using the selection tool.

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Re: [Finale] Text Blocks in the Right Place

[Dick Hauser]

On Jul 28, 2007, at 11:43 PM, Jonathan Smith wrote:

Hold down Alt-Ctrl and click on an expression, it shows the note  
it's attached to.




How cool is that?  Thanks, Jonathan!

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Re: [Finale] MIDI question (urgent)

[Dick Hauser]

On Jul 11, 2007, at 7:03 PM, shirling  neueweise wrote:



Under the Midi/Audio pull down (2008) you can look at Import midi  
file options.  If it all looks like it makes sense, you might just  
try setting the minimum duration to eights.  It's possible, I  
suppose, that Finale is keeping a midi value of a sixteenth  
(followed by a sixteenth rest) for a staccato 16th, but I really  
don't know.


i haven't been back to this yet, and won't before tomorrow so i  
can't verify this will do it, but if there are also 16ths, how does  
this affect it?  or is min. dur. some kind of MIDI interpretation  
setting?


Right, if there are 16th's else where in the music, this method won't  
work for you.  Also, upon reading this, however, it occurred to me  
that you want to adjust settings for export since that's what you're  
wanting to do.


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Re: [Finale] Semi-OT: Attachments are back in my posts

[Dick Hauser]

Yesterday, the wife was expressing frustration at not being able to  
open an attachment.  It was winmail.dat.  I said that I just always  
ignored them, but since she was looking at an email from a person  
that could have sent an attachment.  I found this site:


http://www.gpc.edu/~jbenson/resource/winmail.htm

which explained that the attachment was just a format file used by  
outlook.


If I remember correctly, I don't think that is exactly the problem  
you all are dealing with,  (I admit I haven't been paying much  
attention to this thread) but perhaps scanning this site would give  
you some ideas.  Best of luck.


Dick H

On Jul 1, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Williams, Jim wrote:


Now they're back...HEPPP!



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Williams, Jim
Sent: Sun 01-Jul-07 9:39
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: RE: [Finale] Semi-OT: Attachments are back in my posts



Yeah...now gone!
OK...I'll leave well enough alone
Jim



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Christopher Smith
Sent: Sun 01-Jul-07 8:53
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Semi-OT: Attachments are back in my posts




On Jul 1, 2007, at 8:48 AM, Williams, Jim wrote:


Hi, all...

I changed systems recently and noticed that the little attachments
are back in my posts.
Can someone please remind me how to get rid of them? Having done a
few other things in the years since my last system change, I
unfortunately can't remember how I did it. I now have latest
version of XP pro.

For reasons that I can't understand--but reasons that may well be
valid--these little things seem to provoke vitriol far beyond their
size, so I want to get rid of them quickly.

THANKS...Jim


Jim,

I'm not noticing any attachments to your posts.

But I'm on a Mac (maybe there is some sort of filter set) or perhaps
the List has been set to filter out attachments automatically.

Christopher


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Re: [Finale] OT: NOT John Cage's first national TV appearance!

[Dick Hauser]

On Jun 2, 2007, at 4:14 PM, John Howell wrote:


So everybody's right and we can stop arguing, OK?



Party Pooper


Dick H ;-)
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Re: [Finale] Conducting in 12/8

[Dick Hauser]

I would guess that you're talking about Don Ellis

Dick H

On May 3, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:

Who was that jazz tpt. player, prominent back in the late sixties,  
who used to do charts with meters like 87/4, etc?  I think his  
first name was Don .




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