Measure is relative, it doesn't drop while you approach death.
Probabilities add up to one... And by no cul de dac you should not count
where you 're dead.
Le 5 déc. 2013 03:44, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com a écrit :
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your current measure of next finding yourself in a Drelb
continuation, is relatively low compared to the measure of you still being
Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/12/5 Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Measure is relative,
Yes, so your current measure of next finding yourself in a Drelb
continuation, is relatively low compared
2013/12/2 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 01 Dec 2013, at 21:36, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
If a machine equates God with ultimate reality,
I do not... I don't equate god with anything.
Which means that you defend some inconsistent theory
2013/12/2 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/2 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 01 Dec 2013, at 21:36, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
2013/12/2 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 3 December 2013 09:40, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/2/2013 8:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I'm sorry but we will have to agree we disagree on that. You're also
misleading atheistic position, and you're wrongly attributing belief to
atheist
2013/12/2 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/2 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/12/2
2013/12/1 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
As I said to Telmo talking about sacrifices somewhere above, individual
sacrifices are the only way to create trust among non cloning entities.
And what higher sacrifice than to negate'what is screaming in his mind, in
the universe and in
2013/12/1 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
If what I said were absurd you would have not responded so quickly and so
seriously.
Sorry if I offended your faith. That was an experiment.
Oh easy to do that, the first to say is... childish.
2013/12/1 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
you
who said atheist must be deaf because they don't hear what's screaming in
their mind, if it's not a superiority mode, don't know what is... anyway,
I'll stop here, it's useless.
Quentin
2013/12/1 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
2013/12/1 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Nov 2013, at 22:37, meekerdb wrote:
I can conceive of (with apologies to H. L. Mencken), Agdistis or
Angdistis, Ah Puch, Ahura Mazda, Alberich, Allah, Amaterasu, An, Anansi,
Anat, Andvari, Anshar, Anu, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apsu, Ares, Artemis,
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Nov 2013, at 23:33, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/30/2013 10:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Brent,
I hope you don't mind I re-answer this.
On 28 Nov 2013, at 21:19, meekerdb wrote:
I can conceive of (with apologies to H. L. Mencken), Agdistis
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 01 Dec 2013, at 08:45, Samiya Illias wrote:
We exist,
OK.
then why should we reject the idea of having been created,
Or of having a non physical origin. creation involves the idea of
someone doing something with something, and so that
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 01 Dec 2013, at 09:51, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Nov 2013, at 22:37, meekerdb wrote:
I can conceive of (with apologies to H. L. Mencken), Agdistis or
Angdistis, Ah Puch, Ahura Mazda, Alberich
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 01 Dec 2013, at 12:32, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 01 Dec 2013, at 09:51, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/12/1 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 30 Nov 2013, at 22:37, meekerdb wrote:
I can
my iPhone
On 29-Nov-2013, at 12:32 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
2013/11/29 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
I understand that so many deities and faith-systems and all the myths and
fantasies in them easily put off any thinking mind. Yet, the more we
discover
. Is it not enough that your
Lord is the witness of all things? [Quran 41:53]
We created human from a mingled drop to test him, and We made him hearing
and seeing. (Qur'an 76:2)
Regards,
Samiya
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/11/29 Samiya Illias
On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/11/29 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
Simple? It takes intelligence and knowledge to write computer program,
build a machine, and so on. How can we conclude that the software of life,
the creation
2013/11/28 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
Bruno wrote: 'I was of course alluding to the greek (neo)platonists. They
did invented the God used by both the abramanic cultures (even if terribly
deformed, notably by the abandon of science about it, and the use of
authoritative arguments, by
beings and we can
*do* evil. If such being(s) existed, it would not allow that, but there is
evil...
Quentin
Samiya
Sent from my iPhone
On 28-Nov-2013, at 8:18 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
if there was an all loving god, it wouldn't allow for hell and evil..
--
You
consequences!
Well if you want... but let me appreciate it for the BS it is... thanks.
Quentin
Samiya
Sent from my iPhone
On 28-Nov-2013, at 8:42 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Because we are not all loving, omnipotent, omniscient beings and we
can *do* evil
2013/11/29 Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
I understand that so many deities and faith-systems and all the myths and
fantasies in them easily put off any thinking mind. Yet, the more we
discover, the closer we get to theorizing about everything, the more
difficult it is to believe that
No, you just have to filter him.
If you use gmail, just add a filter to send that to the trash or tag it.
You can add filter with almost all email reader programs.
Quentin
2013/11/26 Gabriel Bodeen gabebod...@gmail.com
Is there another version of this list anywhere with a lower density of
2013/11/20 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/11/19 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/11/18 meekerdb
2013/11/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/18/2013 4:43 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/17/2013 4:25 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:41 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/16/2013
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 10:24 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 7:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:14 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
Benjamin Button lived his life
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 11:15 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 10:24 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 7:19 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Mon, Nov 11
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 11:30 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 11:15 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 10:24 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:23 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
This is ASSA, and I find that absurd, there is no absolute probability of
being alive, probability is only meaningful between two moments...
But there's a probability of being alive at time t
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:23 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
This is ASSA, and I find that absurd, there is no absolute probability of
being alive, probability is only meaningful between two moments...
But there's a probability of being alive at time t
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:23 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
This is ASSA, and I find that absurd, there is no absolute probability of
being alive, probability is only
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:02 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:23 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
This is ASSA
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:37 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:02 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
So *you* Quentin Anciaux (incidentally, how do pronounce that?) don't
necessarily continue. It is just that there is a continuation of 1p POVs.
So we're down to the question of what constitutes a 1p POV
2013/11/13 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
So *you* Quentin Anciaux (incidentally, how do pronounce that?) don't
necessarily continue. It is just that there is a continuation of 1p POVs.
So
12, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:37 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:02 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
Le 12 nov. 2013 22:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net a écrit :
On 11/12/2013 1:37 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 1:02 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/11/12 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/12/2013 12:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but the thing is that *you have to*, and asking such question at
that stage is very likely
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 12:11 AM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 18:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 5:59 PM, LizR wrote:
On 11 November 2013 13:53, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/10/2013 3:54 PM, Quentin Anciaux
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 1:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Sure, but if I live infinitely long I will have almost all my
experiences older than 75. So when I note that I'm not that old and that
seems improbable,
The thing is as I said is that you have
2013/11/11 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/11/2013 11:21 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You find you every day, according to you, every day should not happen,
only being 10¹⁰⁰ is likely, it's just
non-sense, your life is not random sampled, yesterday happen
2013/11/10 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 11/9/2013 11:37 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 08:13, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/9/2013 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Tegmark thinks he will survive, if the gun works sufficiently well. if
not he might degrade and
?
Quentin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
As I said before there is a profound difference between the two.
After Everett's thought
OK... but then you shouldn't have use that as an argument... I respect
intuition, I don't respect using that as an argument.
Quentin
2013/11/1 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Intuition
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Le 1 nov. 2013 00:39
, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
OK... but then you shouldn't have use that as an argument... I respect
intuition, I don't respect using that as an argument.
Quentin
2013/11/1 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Intuition
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco
-fashioned bullying.
It's also true, but these people did everything to deserve that sort of
bullying, nobody forced these two individuals to spam the list.
Quentin
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
OK... but then you shouldn't have use
discuss, he listen to himself.
Quentin
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
wrote:
2013/11/1 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Richard
2013/11/1 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:04 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
So, has step 3 gone from that's absurd to everyone knows that ?!
Yes that is the situation right now, but with backpedaling and additional
caveats and restrictions made by Bruno and
2013/11/1 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote
The diary is useless because the diary was written by you and
contains predictions about the further adventures of you, but now there
are 2 (or more) people with the title you
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:21 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
I think this entire matter could be clarified if you could reformulate
the following question in such a way that a simple yes or no answer can be
given:
Do you die
2013/10/31 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/31/2013 3:55 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
I believe there's an important aspect of this type of discussion that
is rarely considered. This sort of thing takes almost a religious tone
where we are supposed to feel guilty. I'm very suspicious of this
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
this distracts from the question asked, which concerns the first person
pov, from the first person pov. That is the first person experience. [...]
Comp accepts that both
2013/10/31 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
As I said before there is a profound difference between the two. After
Everett's thought experiment is over only ONE person is seen by a third
party so it's easy to determine
2013/10/30 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Bruno asked me Do you think that you die in a self-duplication
experience? and I said that depends on what the meaning of you is. Bruno
responded with We have already agree
Yeah and a chicken is a dog.
Le 29 oct. 2013 03:41, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com a écrit :
So matter is just maya-illusion.
That is really religion- right?
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/10/28 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Bruno
a taboo.
I like to say: bad faith fears reason, bad reason fears faith.
Bruno
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
2013/10/28 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Bruno: The fact that something is enumerable does not entail that you
can derive it from
2013/10/29 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
If John Clark was lying and Bruno has not changed his mind and you
is still the guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki then it is
beyond dispute that YOU
2013/10/29 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
2013/10/29 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
If John Clark was lying and Bruno has not changed his mind and you
is still the guy(s) who will remember having been
2013/10/28 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and
often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but
clearly distinguishes in UDA step
2013/10/28 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Bruno: The fact that something is enumerable does not entail that you can
derive it from PA, nor that it is a necessary part of physics.
Richard: You got it backwards. The CY Compact manifolds are the machine
that computes because they are
You're just lying... You are the one treating things inconsistently, it's a
shame your pride so high you can't even recognize it.
Believe what you want to believe.
Quentin
2013/10/27 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote
The following is a flow diagram of the conversation we've been having on
this thread:
1) Point John Clarck mistakes.
2) John Clark ignores it. Repeat the same mistake ad nauseam.
3) goto 1
Quentin
2013/10/27 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Quentin Anciaux
2013/10/27 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
I came across this today, which you might find of interest:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/quant-ph/9709032v1.pdf In particular section 3 goes
to great pains to describe the
Yes it's me... you're the one who is bragging for **years** about useless
confusion that only exists in your mind.
Quentin
2013/10/26 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, you could always
2013/10/26 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, you could always reciprocate Quentin's courtesy and [...]
Courtesy? This is the fellow who said:
Your agenda is not to try to comprehend something,
Can you stop ? or is it too much to ask from you ? What do you think you
achieve by doing that ?
2013/10/25 Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu
Tomorrow this will be harder but today this is the easiest thing in the
world. Bill Murray? Andie MacDowell? Yes I said yes I will Yes.
Stream of
Ok, then continue, I'll filter you. It's a shame that new participant on
the list will have to read your nonsense.
Say hello to the boitakon.
Bye.
2013/10/25 Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu
How do I stop what I never started?
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:46 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco
2013/10/25 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Do you think that [you] die in a self-duplication experience?
^^^
We've been through this, it depends on who the hell you is. Is
you
2013/10/25 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Be consistent, reject MWI, or ask *the same question* about the
probability of *you* (who is you ? pinocchio maybe ?)
In the MWI John Clark doesn't have to worry about who
2013/10/25 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
We have already agree that you concerns the guy(s) who will
remember having been in Helsinki.
Fine, then obviously You will survive and equally obvious you
will see
2013/10/24 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
** **
** **
*From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:
everything-list@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruno Marchal
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 5:45 AM
*To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: String theory
2013/10/24 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
Why is it that people who have faith in some kind of higher power
I don't have faith in some kind of higher power, but still I don't see
spamming non-sense as sense of humor.
Quentin
never seem to have a sense of humor?
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013
for computation is unwarranted
in a finite universe.
In my paper I circumvent that limitation by assuming that the metaverse is
the computational source of matter.
http://vixra.org/abs/1303.0194
Richard
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Computationalism
Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
The recent observation of a galaxy 30 billion light years away, just 700
million years after the Big Bang, suggests that the universe is finite.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
Comp does not assume universe at the start
2013/10/24 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
That will not increase precision unless you give a name (and NOT a
pronoun!) to the guy who wrote the diary, if its Mr. The Guy Who Is
Experiencing Helsinki On October 21
Go meet Roger
Please stop the spamming.
2013/10/23 Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu
Ooops, I did it again, I played with your heart.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialetheism
Dialetheism is the view that
2013/10/22 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 10/21/2013 9:16 AM, John Clark wrote:
Let me put it in this way: accepting that P(W) = P(M) =1/2, with W
and M describing the first person experiences of the
2013/10/22 Stephen Lin sw...@post.harvard.edu
Without coaching anyway assume an answer. Trust me, it really is on-optic;
it has something to do with a supercomputer.
Annywy, here does: Give that I am Neo, is it possible for me to bot
attended and not addending the wedding of Tim Lee and Jess
2013/10/21 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
When John Clark asks who is you? Bruno responds that he could no
more answer that question than he could square a circle.
The quote, please.
John Clark will be happy
2013/10/21 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
I don't give a damn about predictions, correct ones or incorrect ones,
because they have nothing to do with what we were talking about, the sense
of self. I only care if I
2013/10/19 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
As I've said many times, being deterministic and being predictable is
NOT the same thing.
There is not *uncertainty* from the 3rd POV... nothing, zip, nada (both
event
2013/10/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/18/2013 12:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 18 Oct 2013, at 01:23, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/16/2013 11:55 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
I see your reference and raise you a reference back to section 4.1 of
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0312136
2013/10/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/18/2013 10:48 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2013/10/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 10/18/2013 12:48 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 18 Oct 2013, at 01:23, meekerdb wrote:
On 10/16/2013 11:55 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
I see your
2013/10/17 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.comwrote:
And I don't understand the difference between first person
uncertainty and plain old fashioned uncertainty.
The difference is that from 3rd POV it is deterministic
2013/10/16 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
* But that feeling only arises from the assumption (or gut feeling)
that there is only one observer, both before and after the measurement.*
Quite, it arises from a mistake which would vanish in a true 'comp
practitioner'.
The feeling that
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On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.comwrote:
It was from the book The Many Worlds of Hugh Everett III, a book I
obtained and read in a large part based on you glowing review. :-)
Did Everett use the word
2013/10/15 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
Bruno: On the contrary: I assume only that my brain (or generalized
brain) is computable, then I show that basically all the rest is not. In
everything, or just in arithmetic, the computable is rare and exceptional.
Richard: Wow. This contradicts
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From: Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: The probability problem in Everettian quantum mechanics
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2013/10/15 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote:
Alright, but this again leaves us at a crossroad:
1) You believe that teleportation is fundamentally impossible
No.
2) You believe that teleportation is possible
2013/10/7 chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com
Hi Bruno
* Are you saying that the step 3 would provide a logical reason to say
no to the doctor, and thus abandoning comp?*
I'm saying only the suicidal would expect a 50/50 chance of experiencing
Moscow (or Washington) after teleportation
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On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:48 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
The H-guy turns into the M-guy, but they are not identical just as
you are not identical with the Bruno Marchal of yesterday.
This is true, but it's also something Bruno has said many
2013/9/27 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
I do remember a conversation you had with Bruno about 5 years ago when
you were discussing what a man in Helsinki would experience when undergoing
the duplicator experiment.
2013/9/12 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote:
In a conference Dennet said that a country with religious soldiers would
be defeated by a country ruled by engineers and economists.
There is certainly some truth in
2013/9/5 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:13 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
while consciousness may just the data processing feels, there are
obviously going to be different feelings about different data processing
(e.g. hope, fear, lust,...)
Yes.
So
2013/9/5 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote:
Coercion is by persons, not by object or logical things...
So if I were shipwrecked on a desert island then no matter how much I
hated it there and wanted to get back home I would have
2013/9/4 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Can not comment, don't know what ASCII sequence free will means.
You are merely being argumentative here.
I AM NEVER ARGUMENTATIVE!
You certainly do have a very
2013/9/3 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/3/2013 6:14 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
Yes, that's also my favorite way of thinking about this, you are
precisely that what you experience at any one time, and that may well
include memories of the past.
What was discussed earlier in this thread
Since MWI is deterministic, and MWI has not beean falsfied... your
statement is wrong.
Quentin
2013/9/3 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
Determinism is not only falsifiable it has been falsified. John K Clark
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2013/9/2 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/2/2013 11:45 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Is it scientific?
As a general principle, determinism is meta-physics. I doubt that it can
be strictly falsified because every possible test depends on auxiliary
hypotheses which one might be willing to
2013/8/24 Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.com
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