Re: [PEDA] Schematic Title Block - Please Explain

2004-10-07 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
While editing a template you can edit all graphics on it as well, so you can delete Protel logo if you wanted. You can also delete a special string, which is in your case file path. The template has to be opened as a .dot file. Cheers, Igor Hi all, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around

Re: [PEDA] Video Board Recommendations ?

2004-08-24 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Agree with nVidia, they are working quite well. I used GeForce 440MX 64MB and was more than happy. Then I changed to Radeon 9600 128MB dual head that was much faster. Both running without any problems. Cheers, Igor -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed

Re: [PEDA] 99SE SP6 updating footprints

2004-07-27 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Dennis, keep your PCB file open, open your PCB library and display the footprint you want to update. Click on the 'Update PCB'. That should update all your footprints of the same type. Cheers, Igor -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28

Re: [PEDA] Board warpage?

2004-07-21 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Maybe it could be called 'Balanced Copper Coverage' rather then 'Thickness'? Or 'Track Density'? 'Thickness' is rather ambiguous in this case. My goal is always to take off as little Copper as possible. It prevents warping and improves EMC performance. It is good for the environment as well, esp

Re: [PEDA] Autorouter

2004-01-20 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
And add 6/6 in between to smooth the transition. Are you sure you are joking here? :) Igor -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2004 11:48 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Autorouter $3K for the full version seems qu

Re: [PEDA] DRC acute angle on polygons

2004-01-18 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Dom, Go to 'Rules'. In 'Acute Angle Constraint' choose 'Net Class' for 'Filter Kind', then click on 'Edit Classes' and add a new class. In that class put all nets except nets connected to your polygons. Then, once back in the rule dialog, choose the net class you created from 'Net Class'. This

Re: [PEDA] Gerber output problems

2004-01-15 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Have you got x and y pad sizes same as the hole size? And untick the 'Plated' box. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Drew Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2004 2:54 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: [PEDA] Gerber output problems Hi all, I completed the

Re: [PEDA] What could we expect in next Altium EDA tools?

2003-12-21 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Hamid, Altium is selling P99SE with a free upgrade to DXP. Then you get a free upgrade to P2004, so you have all three versions for the price of one. I am not trying to bring Altium sales up, just think that we should be fair to them and state all the facts. If your customers bought P99SE or DX

Re: [PEDA] How to place non-plated thru holes?

2003-10-30 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
You can set the pad size as small as you want, even as a negative value. Usually, I set it to 0 (zero) to make sure the pad copper does not show at all. If you want to sort them by size and still don't want copper, set pad sizes to different negative values. Dennis, this is not an attempt to gi

Re: [PEDA] Open source SP7

2003-10-20 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Foot in the mouth disease is spreading fast. It seems I caught it, too. Mike's idea looks so obvious, someone should have come to this earlier. Combine it with JaMi's idea and it seems to be feasible as an open source project. Is anyone else sick? Is there an antidote? Igor -Original Messa

Re: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM

2003-09-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Rich, this topic was discussed a while ago. You might have a look into the archive. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Rich Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2003 2:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Off topic: Drawing revision control and PLM

Re: [PEDA] P99SE has Altzheimers' ?

2003-09-17 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Maybe they were not mis-leading us intentionally. They changed their policies a lot recently, with ATS and DXP and all, so P99SE got a boot, as they could not afford to support two versions of SW. We might want to follow this path, though, to get SP7. It seems to be ideallistic cause now, but it

Re: [PEDA] Library management in a multi-user environment - is this broken?

2003-09-03 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Bill, we have implemented a Protel library system similar to what you describe. It makes use of Protel .ddb file access control. In Design Team folder in library .ddb you will find another foolder, called Members. There you set up names and passwords for all people with access to the library.

Re: [PEDA] Geometric Center

2003-08-26 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
I beleive to have read somewhere that the center is calculated from the component outline on the Top Overlay. Don't take me for it, it is just from the memory. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Tim Fifield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 26 August 2003 1:28 AM To: Protel E

Re: [PEDA] PEDA] P99SE Annotation

2003-08-03 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
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Re: [PEDA] PEDA] P99SE Annotation

2003-07-31 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Adeline, go to Tools->Annotate(untick Current Sheet Only box)->Advanced Options and set a range for designators on each sheet in the project. We usually set top level sheet to the range of 0-99 and then child sheet 1 to 100-199, child sheet 2 to 200-299, second level child sheet 1 to 1000-1999,

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE experience

2003-07-16 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Hi Choong, upgrade to service pack 6, make sure you have at least 256MB of RAM and a good video card. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Choong Keat Yian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 July 2003 1:10 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Protel 99SE experience Hi

Re: [PEDA] PCB in Protel

2003-06-24 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Raoul, your problem might be in scaling the printout in the Print Preview. Open your preview, right click on the top line in the left pane (it's your printer's icon) and change the scaling. Regards, igor -Original Message- From: Natalie DeGennaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesda

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99 SE SDK

2003-06-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Nathan, it will only work with Delphi 5. Igor -Original Message- From: Nathan Horsfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 23 June 2003 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Protel 99 SE SDK Good Morning All, Currently trying to create some servers usi

Re: [PEDA] OrCad to Protel

2003-06-22 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Another corollary is "The grass is brown wherever you go". It might not be the colour of grass, it might just be a vision problem. Igor -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 11:13 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA]

Re: [PEDA] KeepoutLayer & Rules

2003-06-19 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Sorry for the previous blank post, too fast on the trigger. Craig, you could do several things. 1. Create a net class for all your copper tracks and use the class in instead of (All) your rule. 2. Create a separate rule for each of the copper layers instead of (All). Those are the f

Re: [PEDA] KeepoutLayer & Rules

2003-06-19 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
-Original Message- From: Craig Wroth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 20 June 2003 11:44 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] KeepoutLayer & Rules Hi, Having problems geting my rout to follow the following rule in DXP, Processing Rule : Clearance Constraint (Gap=40mil) (All),

Re: [PEDA] Direct printing of artwork

2003-06-15 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
I am sure that in the early days of Power Print the option to print a negative of the .ppc file was there. It was a good feature, shame it's got lost. It should be introduced back into DXP. If you still have the trial version of the Power Print somewhere, you might be able to use it, maybe with

Re: [PEDA] 99SE ON WIN XP

2003-06-12 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Steve, in whatever M$ OS you choose, I have never had any problems with P99SE SP6, except the utopian SP7 issue. Igor -Original Message- From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 4:29 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] 99SE ON WIN XP Hi, I have nev

Re: [PEDA] SORT ORDER IN LEFT PANE

2003-03-13 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Dennis, I have the same problem but no solution, unfortunately. Igor -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 13 March 2003 9:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] SORT ORDER IN LEFT PANE SE99 SP6 i think this was kicked around befo

Re: [PEDA] Does the DXF Export work???

2003-03-10 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Leonard, I just exported .DWG from schematic and imported it into Visio Technical 5.1. Exported as AutoCAD v13 drawing, metric. Imported as ISO, metric, A3. The drawing elemnts can't be ungrouped or edited, drawing can be resized, there are no problems with fonts, it's all one colour. Initially

Re: [PEDA] Hole Size Constraint

2003-02-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Ian, let me try: Rule Name Scope MinMax All holes Board 28mil 280mil Drill 42mil Power Tracks (Net class)42mil 42mil Drill 35mil Signal Tracks (Net class) 35mil 35mil Drill 28mil Special

Re: [PEDA] Hole Size Constraint

2003-02-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Ian, you wrote: >The first rule has the highest priority. Rules are tested against all >objects. So your first rule will generate an error on all holes not equal >to 42mil. It won't help that you have alternative rules following. I would say, that the rules are tested against all objects co

Re: [PEDA] Hole Size Constraint

2003-02-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Alexandre, set the scope to check only the holes of certain size or certain net, not the whole board. Igor -Original Message- From: Alexandre Desnoyers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 24 February 2003 9:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] Hole Size Constraint I want to

Re: [PEDA] Simulator

2003-02-20 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
I beleive this is one of the parts built into the simulation SW, together with several other components, e.g. CAP and RES. You can access those by writing your subckt models. To do this you will have to dig into other parts, to see how it's done. E.g., try using SPDTRELAY instead of switch. You

Re: [PEDA] Buses

2003-02-13 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Peter, to answer your question from below, there is a way to do it. In a top level schematic place a sheet symbol. On the sheet symbol place a bidirectional port (e.g. 12V). Connect a wire to that port and connet it to your 12V rail. On a sub-circuit place a bidirectional port of the same name

Re: [PEDA] Aus PCBs

2003-02-06 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Ian, try these people http://www.imppc.com.au/ Igor -Original Message- From: Ian Capps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 1:05 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Aus PCBs This is OT but I would appreciate some feedback from Australian users on any Aus manufa

Re: [PEDA] Complex hierarchy?

2003-02-02 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Peter, I should have read your post with more attention. It sometimes works, but I don't have time to find out what it is that makes it work. Usually, I make copies of the channels manually and then annotate. There is another problem with complex hierarchy, and it is that once you execute 'Comp

Re: [PEDA] Complex hierarchy?

2003-02-02 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Peter, in Tools->Annotate you can define how to annotate your schematic sheets. Choose to annotate the whole project and in Advanced Options dialog set the suffixes for each individual schematic sheet. That will enable you to differentiate between part naming on individual channels in your desi

Re: [PEDA] Rules and PCB library definitions

2002-12-12 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Gisbert, One workaround could be to keep your fanout/prereoute topology separate from the footprint in a .pcb file and keep your footprint clean of additional primitives. Then, when you need the footprint you could copy and paste the fanout/prereoute section into your design. In that way you co

Re: [PEDA] Unable to Initialize

2002-12-05 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Dave, may sound trivial, but check your licence setting and make sure the autorouter is enabled. Regards Igor -Original Message- From: Sanders, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 1:43 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Unable to Initialize Thanks

Re: [PEDA] Default Pointer

2002-12-05 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
John, File sharing feature works fine accross network and shared drives. If two users with the same access privileges try to open the same file, the second user will be denied access. The same second user can access other files in the same .ddb if they are not accessed by the first user. The ad

Re: [PEDA] 10 best options I want

2002-12-04 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
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Re: [PEDA] 10 best options I want

2002-12-03 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
ked, what exactly do you mean? Hope you have a good one, too. Regards, Igor Gmitrovic R&D Engineer HPM Industries Pty Ltd Ph: ++ 61 2 9207 9550 Fax: ++ 61 2 9207 9554 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 4 D

Re: [PEDA] 10 best options I want

2002-12-03 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Brad, Mike my understanding of the question is that there are more than four footprints that could be used for a component. Let's say a capacitor. There are four footprint fields in the sch component library and there couldb be 53 different footprints one uses for capacitors. There is obviously

Re: [PEDA] Simple (?) Pasting Problem

2002-11-27 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Terry, you might have some hidden objects in your components. That would explain why Protel takes time to process it. Or your component may be corrupted in some other way. Try to select all the visible objects in the component and then copy-paste to a new component. Then check if it still does

Re: [PEDA] What else is under the hood

2002-11-21 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Mike, at least you would let us know about it and save us some frustration. Igor -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 22 November 2002 1:07 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] What else is under the hood Dennis, This program sometimes is

Re: [PEDA] Assembly Drawing generated from Protel99SE

2002-11-19 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Michael, we use both overlays and several mechanical layers to compile the assembly information. We assign different mechanical layers for Designators and Comments, as well as other information, such as dimensions, panellisation and glue stencil pads. And we use the Protel PCBPrint to print o

Re: [PEDA] Update several PCB footprints from library.

2002-11-17 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Yuriy, if you reload the netlist and check the "Update Footprints" box it would update all of them. I know it is not updating from library, as your question asks, but it does the job. Igor -Original Message- From: Yuriy Khapochkin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 16 N

Re: [PEDA] Pick & Place Data

2002-11-07 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Hi Steve, yes the protel P&P file is usable. We use spreadsheet metric format, so it's easier to edit the file in Excel. Our origin is set onto one of the fiducial marks. The way you set the origin is defined by your P&P machine and the way you panellise the board. There was some discussion rec

Re: [PEDA] polygon fill

2002-11-04 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Interesting, a friend of mine working for another company reported the same problem today. The polygon Plane parameters were setup correctly. We tried to play with the DRC rules. It was the only polygon on the board. Nothing could be done. Any ideas? Igor -Original Message- From: Brian

Re: [PEDA] Altium....Are you guys crazy!!!

2002-10-18 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
The odds seem to be zillion (of us) to one (Altium). The problem with gambling is that the rules are set by the guy who deals the cards. That also means the rules can be changed at any time. Igor -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:dsicon@;integratedcontrolsinc.com] Sent:

Re: [PEDA] Pads disappearing - DXP -> Earlier Version -> DXP

2002-10-18 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
appearing - DXP -> Earlier Version -> DXP Well if the problems is with a version earlier than DXP, then maybe the problem is not still there. Maybe it's still with the older versions. It seems like it would be pretty easy to find, once someone notices it. > -Original Messag

Re: [PEDA] Pads disappearing - DXP -> Earlier Version -> DXP

2002-10-18 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Brian, so it is still there. I have seen it in P3, P98 and P99 when importing files from previous versions of Protel into the latest version. DOS version files were the most probable to result in zero size pads. Igor -Original Message- From: Brian Watson [mailto:brian@;desktop-eda.com.

Re: [PEDA] Pads disappearing - DXP -> Earlier Version -> DXP

2002-10-18 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
sound. IF the problem is a bug in an old version of Protel, then there is nothing a new version can fix. It's not the old format that is flawed, it's old data that is getting corrupted. I don't see what difficult to understand. Tony > -Original Message- > From: Igor Gm

Re: [PEDA] Fan out Via clearance

2002-10-16 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Jon, if this is true, it then explains why all those short tracks appear under pads. Basically, it is not a gridless autorouter, unless there is a definition of 'gridless' that is different from my understanding of the word. Igor -Original Message- From: Jon Elson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [PEDA] Protel99se and win2k fun

2002-10-16 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
JaMi, there it is, the root of your problems. You have only 128MB of RAM. Upgrade that and you will have Protel running happily and will save yourself a lot of frustration. And don't forget to install a video card with at least 16MB RAM. They don't even make them with less than 32MB today. Ig

Re: [PEDA] Graphic symbol on PCB?

2002-10-15 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Hugh, have the logo in .bmp black and white, then convert it to .dwg format and import it into the blank .pcb. Then create a component and place it into your PCB library. From there you can import it automatically through the netlist in any of your PCBs. Cheers, Igor -Original Message---

Re: [PEDA] WARNING!!! Junctions at + points can disappear in DXP

2002-10-14 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
All, I see there is a lot of diplomacy and politeness being flogged around. So, before we all get civilised again, let me throw some more oil into the fire. In my opinion there are legitimate, logical and electrically correct reasons to use 4-way junctions. E.g., if I wanted to represent the s

Re: [PEDA] flipping board

2002-10-09 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
orientation. I can't remember where it came from (could have been a commercial website). TC -Original Message- From: Igor Gmitrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 2:03 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] flipping board Don't even joke a

Re: [PEDA] flipping board

2002-10-09 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Don't even joke about it. Shame on you ;) Igor -Original Message- From: Terry Creer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 12:46 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] flipping board -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sen

Re: [PEDA] flipping board

2002-10-09 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Tony, that would be one of the ways to create a pick'n place file for bottom layer. Igor -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 10 October 2002 9:36 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum'; 'Protel Developers Forum'; 'Open Topic Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] f

Re: [PEDA] Update Schmatics from

2002-10-03 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
You could un-group the sch symbols by deleting them from the group in the library. Each part will then have its own symbol and the update should work. Igor -Original Message- From: Duane Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 4 October 2002 4:24 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subjec

Re: [PEDA] P99SE SP6 Problem with Update PCB generating duplicate nets or ot her errors.

2002-10-02 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Hi Brad, there were cases when I had to update a pcb two or three times before it completed correctly. Don't know why it happened. After that the board was done without any further problems. Regards, Igor -Original Message- From: Brad Velander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursd

Re: [PEDA] Unplated pads

2002-09-19 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
ication > -----Original Message- > From: Igor Gmitrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 6:09 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Unplated pads > > > Just make them Top Layer pads. > > Igor > * * * * * * * * * *

Re: [PEDA] Unplated pads

2002-09-19 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Or Bottom Layer, depends on your board. Igor -Original Message- From: Igor Gmitrovic Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 11:09 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Unplated pads Just make them Top Layer pads. Igor -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PEDA] Unplated pads

2002-09-19 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Just make them Top Layer pads. Igor -Original Message- From: Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 20 September 2002 10:34 AM To: Protel Data Forum (E-mail) Subject: [PEDA] Unplated pads Our board house has asked us to de-check the "Plated" box for single sided pads. Ok, 1 gl

Re: [PEDA] KILL THE DAMN AUTOROUTER

2002-09-17 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
JaMi, Auto Route->Stop works for me. It doesn't do it to my board, either, if pre-routes are locked. Sorry to bring you the bad news, but you have too many problems with Protel. Maybe it's time to have a look into some HW/SW compatibility in your PC, or, excuse my forbidden thoughts, change it

Re: [PEDA] A few nets attach to blank space after move selection.

2002-09-12 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Dave, Ian, I have seen this behaviuor when importing a pcb from Protel DOS into Protel 3 and Protel 98. Those happened to be pads with zero diameter and polygons with zero size. Try to search for those objects in the reports and check if there are any. After increasing their size I was able to

Re: [PEDA] I want my .... I want my... I want my SP7

2002-09-12 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Let me do it again: I really want my SP7! Igor -Original Message- From: Brooks,Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 8:38 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: [PEDA] I want my I want my... I want my SP7 :) Bill Brooks ***

Re: [PEDA] Fw: on topic supply SOS

2002-09-09 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Brian, I assume you need SMD caps. Have a look at MURATA multilayer ceramic chips, maybe LL series. For your prototype, I would suggest you solder a cap of 1-2uF directly on top of the IC, connecting accross power pins and using small multistranded wire. You could put several of them in paral

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-09 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
tel 99 SE on other systems. > > We have no input for Protel 99 on any systems. > > We know it happens with Protel 98 in Win98. > > We have no input for Protel 98 in Win95 or NT4. > > Thanks again, > > Let me know if you think of something, > > JaMi >

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
That's called action. The "nastygrams" are not coming anymore. Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 1:26 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam Bingo! I think you hit the nail on the head

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
t I thought that we were heading for a unanimous consensus on this one. Thanks for responding. At least we are building a database of sorts. JaMi PS. Maybe we need to have someone make a "Sound Bite" that says "Ah s___! Protel crashed again!" and set it up for the "Crit

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
this picture. Igor, It does NOT go "KLUNK!" when you exit Protel 99 SE from the "Exit" selection of the "File" menu pulldown? Is your "sound" turned on? What type of machine and what OS are you using? Thanks, JaMi - Original Message - From: "I

Re: [PEDA] Cease the spam

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
be? A copy of the message is included below: >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, 9 September 2002 9:08 AM >To: Igor Gmitrovic >Subject: CEASE THE SPAM >If this waste of our resources does not cease immediately, pleas

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
There are many factors in the same equation, but as I see it, they had to come up with something completely new so they could introduce the ATS. That, to me, is the most important factor in all this. They are fighting for revenue, as any other busines does. That they might lose in the end is a

Re: [PEDA] KLUNK! - Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
In my experience Protel versions 3.0, 98 and 99 were "flaky". Protel 99SE with SP6 is stable. I aggree with you on SP7. There are things to be corrected. Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 6:41 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc:

Re: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture.

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
doesn't do it to me Igor -Original Message- From: JaMi Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 5:21 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Cc: JaMi Smith Subject: [PEDA] Whats wrong with this picture. OK . . . So I'll admit, I missed the Class on Protel 99 SE Basics . . .

Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time?

2002-09-08 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
you said it all Igor -Original Message- From: Fabian Hartery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2002 1:51 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time? Dennis, The only thing I could relate to with demolishing a DDB architecture is that there is

Re: [PEDA] Document manager tree gone in 99SE

2002-09-05 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Maybe it's just window size dragged to the edge. Try increasing the window size by dragging it to the left. Igor -Original Message- From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 6 September 2002 5:21 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Document manager tree gone in

Re: [PEDA] DWG & DWF files not importing correctly

2002-09-05 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Barry, we have tried that as well. In our experience, DXF files are not imported correctly into Protel (any version). DWG files on the other hand worked fine and we used that format for both import and export to AutoCAD LT and ProE.FWIW Igor -Original Message- From: Barry, Rick [mailt

Re: [PEDA] Solder jumper

2002-09-05 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Steve, You could have a pad on the outside and a via inside. That would leave you with one pad. Pad would have to have its hole diameter larger than the via diameter and should have to be marked as 'not-to-be-drilled' and not plated. How complicated is that going to be for your your pcb shop?

Re: [PEDA] DXP - Crunch time?

2002-09-04 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Terry, you know what's best for you. To see what other people are doing, have a look at the topic 'SV: Hard Look at other Programms'. From what I have seen so far, your thoughts are in line with a lot of the people in this forum and are definitely in line with mine. Cheers, Igor -Origin

Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit?

2002-08-27 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Jason, another option could be not to cross hatch the polygons but to do only vertical or horizontal pouring. Igor -Original Message- From: Jason Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 10:22 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] File Size Limit? Nope,

Re: [PEDA] Slow Performance of Protel 99SE

2002-08-25 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Malik, You could decrease the number of undo steps for schematics and pcb editors, in Tools->Preferences menus. This will free up some of your RAM. You could also consider adding more RAM. There is a non-linear function between the component count and the time it takes to DRC a board. For a co

Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint

2002-08-15 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
ker tracks = lower inductance = better immunity... (?) > -Original Message- > From: Igor Gmitrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, 16 August 2002 11:43 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint > > > Danny, > > wher

Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint

2002-08-15 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Danny, wherever you have a change in the inductance, i.e. track width, you will get reflections. In such conditions yo could get standing waves as well, although I don't think that working frequencies on your board are so high to be affected by this. Wider track is equivalent to a broadband an

Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint

2002-08-14 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
I would not recommend anyone to use 90deg corners as you will run into the emc problems. Igor -Original Message- From: Narinder Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2002 9:50 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Matched Lenghth Constraint Hi Mr. Malik, 1

Re: [PEDA] P99SE lockups

2002-08-11 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Hi Kat, Do Edit->Paste special and tick on Duplicate designators. Tick off Keep Net Name. You could also do Paste Array. Igor -Original Message- From: Katinka Mills [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 11 August 2002 9:48 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] P99SE lockups Hi a

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. - Flame start!

2002-08-01 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Ian, well said. People have tried to hint before that it has gone over the top. Igor -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 6:51 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs. - Flame start! On 11:24 PM 31/07/

Re: [PEDA] DXP schematic, any good?

2002-08-01 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Matt, Protel has a bad track in documenting their 'features', but this one is in a Protel 99SE book, page 80, although it is somewhat unclear that the wire is in fact a polyline. And I am sure it is in previous editions' books as well. Igor -Original Message- From: Matt Pobursky [mail

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Vincent, My two bit(che)s in reply: See inserts Igor -Original Message- From: vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 6:42 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!! Darryl Newberry wrote: >Ah,

Re: [PEDA] rectangle hole?

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Tim, if you use those holes just for the mechanical fixing points, you can create them by using Fills in the footprint. If you want to plate them through, there are some PCB manufacturers doing it on request. If you want to create them as pads, that is not possible. You will have to wait until

Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion

2002-07-31 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
And it looks like beta v2 to me. Igor -Original Message- From: Andrew Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2002 10:01 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP Discussion > -Original Message- > From: Rene Tschaggelar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >

Re: [PEDA] Altium Release Protel DXP

2002-07-29 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
So the saga continues. You can bet their sales guys are happy. They have new shiny interface to sell. Gether all you vain engineers. There are new glass perls and DXP mirrors in the shop. Igor -Original Message- From: John Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 29 July 2002 9:39

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-28 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Jami, don't take it personally. This is a discussion forum and not a winner-gets-to-live arena. We have several Dell machines with identical HW and identical SW. The only difference are the M$ and Protel licence numbers. Some (in fact only one) have mouse problems in Protel, some don't. So, wh

[PEDA] 3D models

2002-07-28 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Has anyone got 3D models for QualECAD's 3D View other than the sample ones available from QualECAD? Igor * Tracking #: 90D0420EA8562A48BA6FE3E9BBC03868CFDDF957 *

Re: [PEDA] Refdes on other Layers

2002-07-25 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
We had no problems with designators on mech layers. Igor -Original Message- From: Steve Wiseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 6:06 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Refdes on other Layers 25/07/2002 06:11:53, "Waldemar Kulajew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [PEDA] Kudos

2002-07-24 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
sed between ProE and Protel. Sincerely, Brad Velander. Lead PCB Designer Norsat International Inc. Microwave Products Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) Fax (604) 292-9010 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.norsat.com -Original Message- From: Igor Gmitrovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

Re: [PEDA] Kudos

2002-07-24 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 10:19 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Kudos On 09:03 AM 25/07/2002 +1000, Igor Gmitrovic said: >It goes both ways. PTC (PRO/Engineer) are about to release a PCB design >package. > >Igor

Re: [PEDA] Kudos

2002-07-24 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
It goes both ways. PTC (PRO/Engineer) are about to release a PCB design package. Igor -Original Message- From: Brian Sherer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 25 July 2002 1:40 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] Kudos I guess I'm in the minority, but I find the Protel user

Re: [PEDA] To Forum Admin : Things getting too much OFF Topic here

2002-07-24 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
a good one... -Original Message- From: Schmitt Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 24 July 2002 5:45 PM To: Protel EDA Forum (E-Mail) Subject: [PEDA] To Forum Admin : Things getting too much OFF Topic here Hey Folks ... One uppon a time there was a Protel Eda Users Foru

Re: [PEDA] Fastest possible Protel system (LATEST)

2002-07-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Brian, my bit to you is: 1. Use dual digital interface video card with LCD monitors. You will be able to work longer ours. Apparently you will need that. You don't need many colours, so colour processing speed is not an issue. You want stable image and no flicker. 2. M/B with 266MHz or higher

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-23 Thread Igor Gmitrovic
Ivan, Writing dates as MM/DD/YY is the same as writing time as HH:SS:MM. It does not seem logical. There should be linear ascendence or descendence in the order of things, IMO. In Australia we have 240V/50Hz. Compared to your 120V/60Hz. We could discuss frequency, but one thing is sure, the cu

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