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I have to agree with Alberto on this point.
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There is NO such requirement. See my response to Liz..
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to asking how we could communicate with someone outside
of our light cone.
I am trying to not assume that a space-time is defined a priori.
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Good question! I ask that you take what
supporting the ability of
more than one observer to communicate becomes quite difficult in the
computationalist framework.
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Good question! I ask
sources that are millions of light-years
away. This makes the notion of quantized space-time dubious.
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I am trying to get a somewhat complicate question out and understood.
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Vaughn Pratt's dualist theory is consistent with QM and does show a
mechanism that prohibits White Rabbits. It is intelligible
running in
some UD)?
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I will try a crude summary and hope to not be misunderstood... It
starts with the Stone duality, a well known isomorphism between Boolean
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That is the key question that remains, IMHO, unanswered.
It is answered, completely.
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Wait, Brent may have written that and I missattributed the quote.
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Vaughn Pratt's dualist theory is consistent with QM and does show a
mechanism that prohibits White Rabbits. It is intelligible to anyone that
puts
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The UD has no output. I guess you think to the trace of the UD, UD*,
which from the first person perspective is entirely given
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I will try a crude summary and hope to not be misunderstood... It starts
with the Stone duality, a well known isomorphism between Boolean algebras
and totally disconnected compact
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AR provides the neutral monism!
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Several of us do not understand what you mean by pure abstract
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It's not 'ideal monism'. Trying to shoehorn it won't help you understand
it.
Good point! I tend to have a 5 bin system that I use
outside of the New Age. For a hard science take, I
recommend Russell Standish's *A theory of Nothing
http://www.hpcoders.com.au/nothing.html*.
I am far too ADHD to write a publishable book
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through time at c in one direction, this conclusively
falsifies block time.
Thus SR conclusively falsifies block time. QED.
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� I will have to agree
in one direction, this conclusively
falsifies block time.
Thus SR conclusively falsifies block time. QED.
Best,
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� I will have to agree with LizR here. SR
consistent way to do it. But his
results disallow for the kind of concepts that Edgar and many others are
advocating.
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Dear Edgar,
Your argument is based on a disconception of what the speed of light
is! Light -photons- do not move at all. They are the null length rays
that connect events together. Nothing can travel faster than c because to
do so would
with my argument, other than that
you disagree with the conclusion?
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There is no such thing as a location in time. The entire idea of a
dimension of time is a mental construct that we hang events
does not move??? Even your clock knows better than that! And you
think my theories are weird!
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Time is not the movement of the hands or numbers of a clock, it is the
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motion, it is something else. Time does not move.
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Bingo! You are correct. All motion in space-time is an illusion. The
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Bingo! You are correct. All motion in space-time is an illusion. The
ancient greeks figured that out already
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Yes, GR assumes smooth Riemannian manifolds. The mapping works for them
wonderfully. That fact was proven by the people that discovered Fiber
Bundles. The hard thing to grasp is how the mapping between separable QM
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of an observer. If only we could see
eye to eye on the definitions of some other concepts... Such as that
Computation is an *action* or transformation, not a static being.
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Could you be more specific about why you are skeptical of p-zombies? I
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Stephen,
What is this magical FPI that tells us in this present moment that there
is no such present moment? What's the actual supposed proof?
Edgar
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The universality of the first person experience
Dear Jason,
Let's try to be a bit more formal. Interleaving.
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I would agree with your idea here if you made one change: replace the
single abstract computing space for all of space-time and replace it with
an abstract computing space for each
property
conservation laws and the laws that compute the binding forces of matter.
But am pleased to hear you agree with the rest, the general concept...
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I would agree with your idea here if you made
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I do not think that block time is a coherent idea. It assumes
something impossible: that a unique
Der LizR,
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Hi Stephen,
I have a 2c worth on block time, too :)
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Parminedies. We then can define time in terms of orderings and measure of
that fundamental Becoming in a relatively local way.
Problem solved!
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our entire existence within from birth to
death.
It's the most fundamental and persistent of observations...
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Is P-time observable?
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I was not clear. Let me try again.
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Let me first say that I share your opinion of physicalism!
My point is that it is the only opinion
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of this methodology will be
demonstrated using examples from probability theory, number theory,
geometry, information theory, and quantum mechanics.
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Physics emerges from the FPI on UD
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Dear Bruno,
Could you ever stop being obtuse?
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 17 Jan 2014, at 21:01, Stephen Paul King wrote:
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I think that you are setting up a false dichotomy with the notion of a
finite unique physical universe
an
actively computing reality in a present moment of p-time as the fundamental
level of reality.
Edgar
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On 17 Jan 2014, at 20:38, Stephen
I would like to promote this blog post and the comments on it.
http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/?p=6551
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Dear Edgar,
LOL! You don't parse what I read very well... I have been saying that
block
by positing an
actively computing reality in a present moment of p-time as the fundamental
level of reality.
Edgar
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On 17 Jan
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:06:04 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Dear Edgar,
LOL! You don't parse what I read very well... I have been saying that
block time is a BS idea. Time is not like that at all. I have a model of
time that works great in physics, but not many know of it. BTW, I
Dear LizR,
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Dear Bruno,
I do not claim that UDA is flawed. I claim it is incomplete and based
on a false premise. The problem is the assumption
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