[PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

Hi, I've been monitoring this group for a few months now. An associate has a job to make some changes to his customer's board, and the customer is using Protel 99SE SP6. Since he's not yet joined the group, he wanted me to post this for him: We're still hammering away at a 6-layer board w

[PEDA] DXP Equivilent of 99SE component global changes?

ocking all components).Now I want to unlock all of the components on this test board, but I don't see the equivilent of the GLOBAL command anywhere. Looked in the help section, but not too helpful. All I'm able to do right now is select each component and manually unlock it. All hel

[PEDA] Utilities and Reports in DXP?

Does the new DXP have reports like "Last Used Ref Des", or "Un-used Ref Des", or "Spare gates"... ? Bill Brooks * Tracking #: 831DD2EBF9

[PEDA] I want my .... I want my... I want my SP7

:) Bill Brooks * Tracking #: F90318EB8B2EE947B643C214A171187F29977808 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a

Re: [PEDA] Schematic - Global replace for Lib ref field

ere were many parts and it did seem a daunting task to have to do them all by manual entry... We are going to write a little procedure to help us remember how to do it correctly in the future. I just love discovering work-arounds for non-intuitive user interface programming choices. Don't you

Re: [PEDA] converting protel schematic to orcad

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't Protel 98 give the option of saving the schematic in Orcad version 7 format? Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 1:44 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Sub

[PEDA] "Capturing the Low end Market"

a lot of money. Their customers will work for them for free too, because they are able to use the software successfully and easily. What goes around, comes around... Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. TITAN SYSTEMS CORPORATION DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION 3030 Enterprise C

Re: [PEDA] OT Rebuttal WARNING!!! Junctions at + points

hey also had us draft them large to avoid the same problem. Some of you may remember the old 'hump' at crossovers we used to use to make sure no one mis-interpreted the cross over as a connect spot. We did away with those in preference to the simpler connect dot rule. That's the one

[PEDA] Sourcesafe and Protel

l and whether you use the windows file system or store your files in the DDB. Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:tony@;encoreelectronics.com] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 11:21 PM To: 'Protel EDA Forum'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEDA] Windows

[PEDA] Protel Schematic - Inverted signal name "NOT" bar over the text p lots very LONG and not to scale

I have noticed that the "NOT" indicator or Bar over the signal name 'feature' in Protel Schematic plots incorrectly on the HP Plotter when printing my schematic. Have any of you seen this before and what is causing it? How can I work around this problem? Bill Brooks PCB Des

Re: [PEDA] Protel Schematic - Circles and Dashed lines display ve ry thin and won't print

e PIN Circles either. I found if I choose to print the file in picture or bitmap mode it prints visible but if I use HPGL2 as the mode for printing the circles and dashed lines do not print. Has Protel every created a patch to fix this? I think it's been bad since version 98. Thanks - Bill B

Re: [PEDA] 99se plotting problem

received any patch to fix it.. so we suffer with it. We have a HP DesignJet 650C and a HP DesignJet 800 (24"wide roll paper feed) Both have minor issues with plotting but we get by. The fonts get messed up on one and the line codes for dashed lines come out too small to see on the other. Bill B

Re: [PEDA] 99SE ON WIN XP

Hi Ian, I have run Protel 99SE sp6 on my laptop on Win XP Pro. No problems so far.. Most of the machines we have that run Protel are running Win 2K Pro. Both operating systems seem to be ok with Protel 99SE sp6 as far as I know. Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Ian Wilson [mailto

Re: [PEDA] Direct printing of artwork

ear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/0makepcb.html http://www.steveonweb.com/pcb.php http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg/gooteepc.htm some fun reading there... good luck! Bill Brooks, CID -Original Message- From: Nagaraj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 3:09 AM To: Protel EDA Forum S

Re: [PEDA] P99SE Sheet Symbol & Port connectivity across sheets.

ts'. As soon as you generate the netlist the Design explorer recognizes that the schematic is a multi sheet schematic and rearranges the order into a hierarchical order indicating the dependence of the sheets on the 'Dummy' Master sheet. That seems to work for me. Hopefully that gets

Re: [PEDA] PCB Copper thickness VS mounted rails.

ean by 'mounted rails' is somewhat unclear to me. Are you getting copper bar stock and machining it to mount it on the board? Are you referring to 'Bus Bars' that solder into the card? Please explain.. Bill Brooks, CID -Original Message- From: Brian Guralnick [mailto:[EMA

[PEDA] Autoreply: ---- someone set this thing to stop rebroadcasting Au to replies ------

The moderator of this e-mail news/discussion group needs to filter out Auto replies from getting re-broadcast to all of us... this guys piers is in some sort of loop repeating over and over with each e-mail his auto reply sends it auto replies to itself... Bill Brooks "The person who sa

[PEDA] Library management in a multi-user environment - is this broken?

use it have read privileges? If so, how did you make it work and how did you get around these access right issues? Bill Brooks * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/p

[PEDA] Blind vias - troubles with printing check prints

on the top layer and ends on an inner layer it does not show up on the printout. Bill Brooks "Politics is more difficult than Physics" - Albert Einstein * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave thi

[PEDA] BUG.... Error handling BOM generation

eal with a board with zero parts on it. So it hangs... anyone else seen this? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC Designers Council, San Die

Re: [PEDA] Using Client Spreadsheets to update schematics

zeros... which is a bother, because we use part numbers with leading zeros... Guess there's always a fly in the ointment... It makes the tool useless to me. - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Richard Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 5:57 AM To: P

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

at too. I even heard of a guy that was milling off the layers of a board, one at a time, and photographing the circuits to recreate lost artwork. I guess it is done, but sounds like a lot of work! - Bill Brooks Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterpr

Re: [PEDA] gerbers from a scan ??

This is also how we do it... I bring in the gerber from their scans and put it on mechanical layers in the Protel database. The I place the components on top of the image and move the traces from the mechanical layers to the trace layers. - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Dennis

Re: [PEDA] ATS

t the parts... that is inside the edit module... fork over more cash"... etc... etc.. - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:41 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS > Screw them

Re: [PEDA] ATS

ars... Join the other Cad companies in their greed... end up in the graveyard with them... Its just common sense. This stuff always seems to happen when small companies make the transition to High overhead large companies.. Top heavy sales staffs, and support groups that are under funded...oh well my 2

Re: [PEDA] Copper Calculations

miliar 1.4 mils thick copper we all know and love That copper sheet material was then laminated or applied to an insulator backing and the PCB was born.. :) (don't ya love legends) Can't remember where I heard it... but it made sense... Might as well retell it... - Bill Brooks -

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

ter of none... and when do we get to put our feet up on the desk like that guy who's in the picture on the box? As a caveat, I still like Protel better than PADS... (which truly sucks with terrific force...) all things are relative...after all :) Still wish they had not used the Explorer con

Re: [PEDA] Protel usage

Hi Tony, Got one question... please... Do you have a configuration management group where you work?... - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Tony Karavidas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 3:00 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel usage I

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

that helps... Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter http://www.ipc.org/SanDiego/ http://home.fda.net

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

hen you can define a rule for "plane connect" and set the "power plane connect style" filter kind to "PAD" and and look for "free pad 1" and set the Rule Attributes to "No Connect". This will make a clearance around the pad based on the clearance rul

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

print pad. My other suggestion was made without having known about the "No-connect" option in the plane connect rules... That's a nice feature... It does reduce the possibility of having a confusion over the DRC error problem. Thanks Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

ck it every time now... :) Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter http://www.ipc.org/SanDiego/ http://home.fd

Re: [PEDA] Padstack

program. So apparently as long as the mounting holes are free pads without being a component the netlist macro generator will ignore them... nice. I just need to make sure that the older designs do not have the mounting holes as components... :) - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From

Re: [PEDA] AW: imported Gerber info missing

Hi Georg, Could I get a copy of the Gerber translator program you mentioned in this post? - Bill Brooks Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC

[PEDA] CAMTASTIC GERBER TO PROTEL TRANSLATOR?

Georg Beckmann mentioned having a little utility to convert the GERBER output from CAMTASIC to PROTEL compatible Gerber for import to Protel. Does anyone have this file they can make available to me? I would like to test it on some boards I am plying with. Could be very useful thanks Bill

Re: [PEDA] SV: AW: CAMTASTIC GERBER TO PROTEL TRANSLATOR?

Interesting Just what is Protel having a problem with? When trying to import the gerber into a blank pcb file in protel, the error message said that protel choked on the comment lines with the long set of dashes in them... go figure... - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: T

[PEDA] Signal Analysis ?

d checking the signals, so a couple of the engineering were wondering about that capability. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC

Re: [PEDA] Want to know which program created some .PCB files

Tango, and Accell used the .pcb file format. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS, INC 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter http://www.ipc.org

[PEDA] Weird Problems with Protel -!!!

ic in the window... what's up with that? You think it decided to drop them due to a conflict? We have about 8 licenses here... - Bill Brooks P.S. I called Altium(Protel) and tried to get a Tech Support person to help me... all I got was a recording... and they will get to my message

Re: [PEDA] Autoplacer

I don't use it... - BB -Original Message- From: Afshin Salehi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 9:17 AM To: Protel Forum Subject: [PEDA] Autoplacer Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with the autoplace function? I have played with

[PEDA] View PCB 3D

. It keeps it all in the same package, and would be much easier to tweak or change when conceptualizing the board. We still do this with parts and bare punchboards now. I do see that different users would still want the hooks to the outside world Just my take... ***

Re: [PEDA] Protel DXP 'no hurry'

It was at the PCBWEST show... Very impressive changes... user interface improvements are nice... They demo'd it at the users group meeting on Wednesday... They still have some areas they are working on but it looks much nicer, we shall see when we get through the beta testing, eh? Bill B

[PEDA] PIN/GATE SWAPPING

Does anyone know if the new DXP software is going to allow PIN SWAPPING or GATE SWAPPING? Its a feature that I think Protel ought to be able to do... I have not been able to do that yet with the software... Anyone have a 3rd party solution? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D. TITAN

Re: [PEDA] .legend will not work

Just a few questions that might help solve the prob... is it capitalized or lower case? there is an option when placing text that lets you select from a pop down dialog box the "smart text" you want... did you select it from there? - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From:

Re: [PEDA] send info.

What is this? a new form of SPAM? - Bill -Original Message- From: Bob Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 9:12 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: [PEDA] send info. - Original Message - From: "Carl Schattke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: &

[PEDA] Mentor buying Innoveda (Pads)

Well, it seems Mentor has decided to purchase Innoveda... http://biz.yahoo.com/djus/020424/20020424001913_1.html Interesting... - Bill B * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] All Servers gone

I have seen something similar... I had to re-install. - BB -Original Message- From: Cam Andruik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEDA] All Servers gone Well this is wierd. Yesterday Protel worked fine. Today I start it up

Re: [PEDA] Too many hole sizes

ed in the Fab Drawing. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. TITAN SYSTEMS CORPORATION DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.dtwc.com/> -Origi

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Help with a daughter board

Have generally handled this sort of alignment problem in mechanical CAD package. Our companay uses SolidWorks to design all of our mechanical assemblies, including PCB "sandwiches" of the sort you describe. Usually model connectors, power blocks, other elements that connect to more than one PCB, i

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Protel Schematic Feature ... or bug?

t supposed to do this? It makes it a little difficult to check the parts list in our MRP system against the BOM from the schematic if the parts are just dropped as if they are not in the schematic at all... Just wondering if any of you have noticed this before. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engine

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Protel Schematic Feature ... or bug?

Thanks, I thought I was loosing it... heheh.. anyway, we are using it too, but I am fixing some old schematics and didn't notice the dropping of the parts until checking the BOM. We put 'DNP' into the part field when we wish not to stuff a part... it stands for "Do Not Po

[PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Problem with the DRILL Drawing table -Protel 99SE SP6

rocessing Time : 00:00:03 See the problem..? The codes in the Hole Chart do not match the hole sizes they are supposed to represent. Could someone at PROTEL get a fix for this out as soon as possible! I will have to manually fix this or go back to SP5 until it's fixed... - Bill

Re: [PEDA] [PROTEL EDA USERS]: Problem with the DRILL Drawing table -P rotel 99SE SP6

Protel has been able to duplicate the problem.. they are reporting it to engineering. I don't know yet if it causes any other problems.. just the confusion in reading the drill table... - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wedn

[PEDA] Flex Circuits?

Hi - I need to make a rigid/flex circuit. Can anyone out there recommend a good fab shop to make the board for me? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC

Re: [PEDA] Windows 2000 Professional fatal exception errors

w/ 512megs of ram not 98 or 95. (98 has it's own problems... 95 was fairly stable.) I really don't think its a RAM issue. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[E

[PEDA] IPC Designers Council Meeting : WED, MAR 28,6PM @ Hallmark Circ uits, Poway

oint of view on these issues. This meeting is being scheduled tentatively for the May time frame. For further information see www.ipc.org/sandiego/index.html and click on 'Events'. -Original Message- From: Bill Brooks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 2:33

[PEDA] Flex circuits in Protel

I am doing a flex circuit in Protel. Flex requires the use of arcs in or radius corners, have any of you found a slick way to do this in protel that comes out clean? Any other time saving tips for flex design in protel? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030

[PEDA] problem w/ ports on Protel Schematic Service pack 6

nyone clarify what's going on? I pull the same file up in 98 and it looks fine!!! Whets happening here? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC Designers Co

Re: [PEDA] problem w/ ports on Protel Schematic Service pack 6

il 17, 2001 10:20 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] problem w/ ports on Protel Schematic Service pack 6 At 09:18 AM 4/17/01 -0700, Brooks,Bill wrote: >I have a schematic that was edited by another user here that looks fine on >his machine... but when I pull it up the ports all chang

Re: [PEDA] problem w/ ports on Protel Schematic Service pack 6

been working on was!!! It obviously didn't uninstall everything!!! Otherwise it would not have know where to look for the file... Does this give anyone a clue as you what is going on? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel

Re: [PEDA] problem w/ ports on Protel Schematic Service pack 6

Thank you all !!! I did try this and discovered it as you say. Thank you for setting me straight!!! - Bill Brooks -Original Message- From: Colby - PowerStream [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 12:04 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] problem w/ ports on

Re: [PEDA] FYI "Protel's response to my printing problem"

you using? What other software is running while you are trying to use Protel? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030 Enterprise Court Vista, CA 92083 Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IPC Designers Council, San Diego Chapter

Re: [PEDA] New on-line PCB quoting service for Protel 99 SE

s, rather than give us a tool to do purchasing's job... Their policy of adding unnecessary 'hoopla' and 'fluff' to the program has not abated..it continues with reckless abandon... :( (rant mode off) Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS INC. 3030

Re: [PEDA] autorouter

Hi Richard, I would suggest that you check your setup on Design Rules for the autorouter. It may be that the spacing you are telling the program to maintain is so large that there are no paths for the router to take that would not violate the spacing rule. - Bill Brooks Bill Brooks PCB Design

Re: [PEDA] Bow & Twist

Try increasing the pre-heater temp or slow the conveyer speed. You need the top side of the board at 200 degrees F before contacting the wave. Bill Pullen -Original Message- From: Harry Selfridge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:54 PM To: Protel EDA Forum

Re: [PEDA] a lib. for everyone

e work is divided up among a large group its very possible to do amazing things... Protel people are some of the best technical people around... think about it. You can make a difference, even if its only a small difference, it adds up. You are a great bunch keep up the ideas... :) - Bill Broo

Re: [PEDA] Camtastic or Protel?

I can take this project on when I retire ;) Just kidding... I have a web site that could host this info but I don't have enough space to hold the library... Maybe we could get some free webspace to hold it and then it would be a possibility... Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer

[PEDA] PCB Design for Manufacture Standard

Hello Group, Can anyone make some suggestions as to available standards besides IPC to use for PCB design. The current feeling here is that IPC is may be too loose for current state of the art.. Thanks, Bill Pullen * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a

Re: [PEDA] Trace Width Charts

d its benefits and down sides? Have you personally used it, how long, what sort of problems have you seen, what are the cost issues? Best Regards, Bill Brooks "Politics is more difficult than Physics" - Albert Einstein * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To

Re: [PEDA] Film to Gerber Files

http://www.outputcity.com/ The above link will take you to the website for the people we use to get film converted to Gerber. They do a great job. Ask for Holly. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

[PEDA] Protel Designer needed

I happen to know of a 4 month or longer assignment that requires a Protel Designer with Protel 99SE SP6 experience. If you know of someone in the San Diego area that could do this job please send me a resume so I can forward it to the interested party. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

seen the new product release for 2004... but I have seen DXP... and 99SE, and 99, and 98, and 2.5 ... so when do we get what we want? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAI

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

Funny, I blame Microsoft for our acceptance of software with 'bugs' in it... I tell you what... If I found bugs in something I bought from the grocery store... I would take it back. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 ---

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

t complain... you could be starving... right? Now shut up and drink your vodka and eat your moldy bug ridden bread. Life is good here... Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax [mail

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

great it was... but I can guarantee I won't 'get my knickers in a knot' worrying about it. (I just love that one... 'Knickers in a Knot'... I heard that on TV the other night ) Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1

Re: [PEDA] Common PCB footprint specifications

standardize the industry from design through assembly. (And no I'm not getting paid to say that... lol) Check it out. It will replace the IPC-SM-782 spec on surface mount components. I'll copy the release below for your reference... Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

like.times UP!... All my best and in good humor. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:01 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum'

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

rk. But I am getting better at it... it's a REAL pain. The things we do to make a living... LOL Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10,

Re: [PEDA] 2004 DXP Looks Great,

nter for one of those ITT Tech schools of some sort. I wish it had been at Altium HQ that would have been even closer for me. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 Trip? what trip, aren't you located there in Vista there just ab

[PEDA] horses vs. cars

o with horses and buggy's again... whew... that would be a site. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 As to cars vs. horses, all I can say is that I find the emissions of cars to be much more tolerable than the emissions of horse

Re: [PEDA] wouldn't it be nice

ks we could live anywhere. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:13 AM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] hors

Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted

This is serious Mike. I would go back to the old software and get my customer happy first... and take this up with tech support. Sounds like Protel is still performing true to form... release it before its done and fix it on the designer's time... and nickel. How disappointing... Bill B

Re: [PEDA] 2004 netlist revisted

. I also write articles for PCD&M magazine... Hmmm.. I think I might need a vacation. lol Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Jaurique, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 20

Re: [PEDA] Creating selective keepouts

on or DRC but can be brought back onto the layer when changes are needed that require using the router again. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Ray Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, Ap

Re: [PEDA] Creating selective keepouts

ROTFL... Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 9:15 AM To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] Creating selective keep

Re: [PEDA] Good schematic/PCB development suite recommendation?

ings like board outlines, dimensions, etc... We use the schematic package here that comes with Protel and we get by with it. Have for the last 3 years. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. TITAN CORPORATION DATRON WORLD COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION 3030 Enterprise Court, Vista, CA 92083

Re: [PEDA] Good schematic/PCB development suite recommendation?

nd your company very well. Some folks need the capabilities that are not available in Protel and can afford to buy them. For the rest of us, there is Protel. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Ra

Re: [PEDA] Good schematic/PCB development suite recommendation?

2nd Best... would be Cadence. The features are similar but the user interface is 10 years behind. Similar cost, similar time to get up and running... similar maintenance...similar modularity. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510

Re: [PEDA] Are fiducials necessary?

B Design Manual by Norman S. Einarson " A great book that was distributed by Coretec a number of years ago. It sounds like your board will be a candidate for fiducials on the panel. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Origin

Re: [PEDA] Good schematic/PCB development suite recommendation?

I'm sure they were former auto salesmen ... 'oh, you want brakes with it... well that's the diamond option, and a steering wheel? Well you need the platinum option...' etc... etc.. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-

Re: [PEDA] Good schematic/PCB development suite recommendation?

mm that's another subject. If Mentor was cheaper Protel would not have a chance. Hang in there Protel and get the product working before sending it out. And... listen to your customers... Best regards, Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-15

Re: [PEDA] Would it not be nice?

rs to convert their old legacy databases into their new purchased format. I believe Altium/Protel has lost its 'common sense'... or maybe PCB designer sense at the very least. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original

[PEDA] Fab drawing?

How do you output your fab drawing? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http

Re: [PEDA] Would it not be nice?

Yes I do get the option of assigning pins based upon the layout... but its frustrating and a manual process without Pin/Gate swap features in the Protel Software. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From

Re: [PEDA] Would it not be nice?

reason to the mix. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Harry Lemmens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 6:36 PM To: Protel EDA Forum Subject: Re: [PEDA] Would it not be nice? I

Re: [PEDA] Simulation Book Online

http://www10.edacafe.com/book/SpiceHandBook/index.php Is that what you are looking for? The SPICE Handbook of 50 Basic Circuits Steven M. Sandler and Analytical Engineering, Inc Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510

[PEDA] What to do with an 'unused' pin...?

e SOT-23 (pin 2) for layout sake, but it will generate an error on your board when you run DRC... Any sharp designers out there have a tip or trick for dealing with these or other scenarios? Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 377

Re: [PEDA] Protel TOP GUN

ures. In the mean time, it gets my work done and for that, I cannot complain. All the best, Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Mike Reagan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:51

Re: [PEDA] Protel TOP GUN

prestigious award for a PCB designer who used Protel. A good idea. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 -Original Message- From: Abd ulRahman Lomax [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:24 AM To: Protel

Re: [PEDA] VIA

I have used 14/24 successfully without any manufacturing price/yield issues. When you go below that threshold the price starts to climb. Bill Brooks PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D., C.I.I. Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510 http://pcbwizards.com

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