Re: Disappearing 'Cool hints'

2001-06-24 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi daveiw,
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, at 19:39:55 +0100 you wrote:

dcn This  is just a trivial point, but I was just curious whether
dcn anyone else  has the same problem. I am now using TB! 1.53d and for
dcn some reason the 'cool hints' are no longer being displayed -
dcn despite being turned on in my prefs, anyone else experiencing this?

Works fine here (although I usually leave the cool hints off :-).

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

2001-06-21 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Serge,
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 20:54:11 +0300 you wrote:

SS The problem is that you never get this type of error on Win NT:)

Are you sure? :-) I know the differences between the Microsoft OS's, but
have a look at the bottom of Marcus' original message where he asks for
help on this problem. He *is* in fact using NT.

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Re: Out of Resources Message Error

2001-06-21 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, at 21:11:38 +0200 you wrote:

DvZ It's not Marcus having the problem but Daniel Morton. ;-)

Agreed, Daniel started the thread. But have a look at Marcus' message,
message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED]. There he says

MG I'm also running in this quite frequently

In his signature you can read what OS he is using (NT 4). And that was
the message I directly replied to. Otherwise it would thread in right
under Daniel's message and not under Marcus'. And now, please let us
stop arguing about who said what and concentrate on some more important
things.

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Re: Importing Messages

2001-06-12 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Billy,
On Tue, 12 Jun 2001, at 08:34:45 -0300 you wrote:

BSM Hello TBUDL,

BSM I´m trying to import messages from Microsoft Outlook Express 2000
BSM (.PST) but I can´t get it done. All the options I have in the bat
BSM to import this kind of file doesn´t work.

There is no such thing as Outlook Express 2000. It's either Outlook 2000
or Outlook Express. .pst suggests that you are trying to import from
Outlook, which TB! can't do directly. You will have to import your
messages into Outlook Express first, then into TB!

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Re: Storage of attachment

2001-06-08 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, at 17:37:01 +0800 you wrote:

 [Attachment storage]

TF I used to store them seperately for the very same reason
TF (arbitrary access). However, I have now switched to In
TF Message Body

I thought about switching to 'In message bodies'. Are there any
problems which arise when one tries to change the storage method?
What happens to those attachments previously stored seperately?
Are they reintegrated into the message base?

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Re: ALT+L

2001-06-04 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi jsvrp.gw,
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, at 16:36:29 +0200 you wrote:

jg When replying to a message the quoted text is not wrapped.
jg This means that I must go to the paragraph and click ALT+L. I
jg use auto-format, auto-wrap, but not justify on autowrap.

jg When I reply I want The Bat! automatically wrap and left
jg align the quoted text. This must be possible and should be
jg normal behaviour? It almost like a bug.

No, it's not a bug. It's a design decision. As you said it
yourself, the text is quoted. And IIRC, that means 'not changed'.

The quick work-around would be to adjust your reply template and
put %cursor *before* %quotes. Now you can go through the text,
from top to bottom, reformat every paragraph, answer it and cut
out unnecessary parts. That way you can combine reformatting the
quotes with answering. BTW, that's exactly what I did with your
post to get rid of the indent you use :-)

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Re: ALT+L

2001-06-04 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Silviu,
On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, at 19:35:53 +0300 you wrote:

SC Or at least a switch for those who like to do that manually
SC (if there's such a person :) )

Oh yes, there is. Usually I go through the quotes, cut out
unnecessary things and reformat the paragraphs before I put in my
reply. And yes, I do it manually and I prefer it this way.

SC I agree with Nick, bad design, must be changed.

It could be made an option, but not on by default. The way it is
it still prevents some people from writing OE style replies, with
the reply right above the quotes, without trimming.

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Re: why do my #?@! filters not work

2001-06-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Matze,
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, at 20:04:46 +0200 you wrote:

 Perhaps I'm missing something here, but why the e? Thanks.

M Because e is in nearly every message. Therefor the filter
M fits to nearly all messages.

You could also filter on '@' in the headers (kludges), that will
also catch all messages.

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Re: PGP 7.03

2001-05-31 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Nick,
On Wed, 30 May 2001, at 23:09:48 -0700 you wrote:

NA It's not so much the source code... but the SDK, and NAI have
NA said that won't be released until PGP 7.x has been
NA modularized. Well PGP 7.1 Beta, which is the modularized
NA version, is closed now so hopefully the release version won't
NA be far behind... nor will the release of the SDK or whatever
NA it is that Developers require to produce Plugins. :o)

OK, thanks for the correction. :)

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Re: Hello all. Need help To Dierk Haasis

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Randall,
On Wed, 30 May 2001, at 22:46:56 -0400 you wrote:

REN Thank you very much. I am still thinking about this program
REN BAT. I am not sure if it is worth the $$$. I have a problem
REN with Outlook Express with the server info that is under
REN tools/accounts. It happened 2 months ago. It is suppose to
REN read:
REN  Incoming mail-- mail.tmlp.com
REN  Out Going mail-- mail.tmlp.com
REN  User  ut895x

REN But it wants to read like this on it's own:
REN  Incoming mail-- localhost
REN  Out Going mail-- mail.tmlp.com
REN  User   ut895x/mail.tmlp.com

REN [...]

REN I reloaded again the whole program, rebooted and all the
REN same info came back, fully configured, totally, like it
REN never was touched.

You are using Norton Anti Virus, aren't you? (Or some other Anti
Virus programme which does the same...) This programme is
constantly changing your pop3 settings. It changes the server to
localhost, so it can download the mail, check it and then deliver
it to your mail programme(s). But now, the original pop3 server
has to be remembered, so it is appended to the user name. When
fetching mail, Norton AV strips the server information from your
user and then uses this server, user and your password to retrieve
your mail.

REN [...]

REN So I got this BAT to see if it could keep the proper
REN setting--really-- as a test. It DOES. Why, then does Outlook
REN Express change? No one knows. Plus I thought the ability to
REN combine all my email programs was cool.

The reason why TB! keeps your settings is simple: Norton AV can't
change your TB! settings automatically, it is not one of the
known programmes for Norton AV.

REN So I am still deciding if this is what I want (the BAT).
REN Since the TMLP mail server seems to give me my mail now with
REN the wrong settings.

If the problem with Norton AV appears again, you can also disable
Norton's pop3 proxy abilities. Just right-click on its tray icon,
open it and in 'Email status' deselect your account(s).

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Re: Hello all. Need help To Dierk Haasis

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi William,
On Thu, 31 May 2001, at 06:27:31 +0100 you wrote:

WM Do people realise that if you use NAV all your mail goes
WM through THEIR servers? Call me paranoid but...

Wait a moment, not THEIR servers. When you are using Norton AV, a
programme is running in the background on your computer, which is
acting like a proxy for pop3 connections. That is, every mail
passes through the AV programme on your computer, is checked and
then delivered to your MUA. And for your MUA Norton AV acts just
like a pop3 server. That's the most general way to ensure virus
protection, no matter what mail software someone uses.

WM The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. It
WM may also be legally privileged. It is intended only [...]

What does that mean? All your e-mails come with this text at the
end. Do you really think that this is necessary on this list? :-)

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Re: PGP 7.03

2001-05-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Tersiocity,
On Wed, 30 May 2001, at 21:48:23 -0700 you wrote:

T Any support for PGP 7.03 yet?

No, not before the source for PGP 7.03 is published.

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Re: Advanced massmailing ?

2001-05-29 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Roman,
On Tue, 29 May 2001, at 10:43:02 +0200 you wrote:

R It also doesn't format paragraphs correctly when you paste
R something into a line that will make the line longer than your
R wrap setting. It also happens when you backspace at the
R beginning of a line to erase something on the line before -
R the lines are concatenated to one lng line.

In addition to the other suggestions, you could also try 'Edit -
Paste formatted' if you want to paste very long lines from other
programmes.

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Re: attachment warning / signature mark

2001-05-27 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Bernhard,
On Sun, 27 May 2001, at 14:28:54 +0200 you wrote:

BG 1. How can I disable the warning when I open an attachment?
BG (somewhere in the registry I think)

Go to 'HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat/'. There are 3 keys, labelled
'ProtectAllowOpen', 'ProtectDisableOpen' and 'ProtectWarnOpen'
with some file extensions. You can easily move an extension from
one key to another or add a new extension.

BG 2. How can I prevent The Bat! from removing the space at the
BG end of --  above the signature.

TB! doesn't remove that space, it was there in your message (and
it will be there in mine, have a look :-).

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Re: ply problem

2001-05-27 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Allie,
On Sun, 27 May 2001, at 09:30:37 -0500 you wrote:

ACM I guess that's what happens when the client tries to
ACM compensate for those others that don't adhere to standards.

Could it be that you use a RegExp to clean up your subject line?

I couldn't reproduce this here, so I suppose it has something to
do with your configuration.

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

2001-05-24 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Nick,
On Thu, 24 May 2001, at 08:15:09 -0700 you wrote:

NA I don't like QT's either and find them very difficult to work
NA with. For some reason, the QT likes to keep all macros on the
NA same line, because every time I want to put a different macro
NA on a separate line, the cursor immediately jumps up to the
NA line above.

I suppose you have enabled 'Auto format' in the editor
preferences? Didn't you realize that the behaviour in quick
templates you mention is just the same as in the editor? :-) And
the solution is just as simple: Hit CTRL+SHIFT+F in the quick
template edit dialog and the editor will behave as you expect it
to.

NA I just gave up on them, and found it easier and less
NA frustrating to just create two Templates. I don't see the
NA value in QT's over using Template Files, especially
NA considering their quirkiness.

That's another possibility. I've just come to like the concept of
quick templates. And as I explained above, they aren't so quirky.

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Re: Continue Processing?

2001-05-24 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Brandt,
On Thu, 24 May 2001, at 11:03:38 -0700 you wrote:

B Could someone explain the continue processing flag in the
B sorting office.

The sorting office works the following way: a new message is
tested if it matches any of the criteria in the subsequent rules.
If a match is found, the action of that rule is executed, *the
comparison aborts and continues with the next message*. That is
the point where 'continue processing ...' jumps in.

There might be a situation where you want to perform several
actions on one message. Let's say, you want all your business
mails in the colour group 'business' and you want to sort them
according to their content into the folders 'support product A'
and 'support product B' (sorry, couldn't find a better example).
You can now create a filter that only marks your business mails
with the colour group. Activate 'continue processing ...' for
that rule. Below this one, you create two rules to sort these
mails into the correct folders. This can only work if the
processing is not stopped after the colour group rule.

Of course, you can also achieve the same thing in only two rules
if you apply the colour group in the sorting rules, but it's only
an example, it was not built to make any sense :-) I hope I made
myself clear.

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Re: Filter quotation

2001-05-21 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Alberto,
On Mon, 21 May 2001, at 10:41:55 +0200 you wrote:

AA For example: I set a filter to forward beta announcement
AA frome TBBETA to the italian mailing list. It looks so:

AA Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AA Subject:Beta
AA Recipient:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AA But in this way I have some replay from Stefan forwarded to
AA my list.

I suggest you filter on unique content in Stefan's announcement
e-mails, for example you could add

String: http://www.ritlabs.com/ftp/pub/the_bat/beta/
Location:   Text
Presence:   Yes

to the conditions you named above.

This way the filter will only be triggered by messages from
Stefan with a link to the beta directory on the FTP. That should
work (I guess :-).

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Re: When Did This Start?

2001-05-21 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Nick,
On Mon, 21 May 2001, at 12:41:16 -0700 you wrote:

NA All of a sudden I now see that TB! amends any line starting
NA with from by putting a  in front of it. I've never noticed
NA that before, and so now I have to use the dash-escape feature
NA of both PGP and GPG to dash-escape that line. This is what I
NA mean:

From here on in... This line should have  in front of it now.

It had for me, but not for others, I guess.

NA Has this always been the case with TB? Perhaps I've never
NA typed any sentences beginning with From? ;o)

I remember that this was discussed before, and the conclusion was
that this happened on the way. There are some servers that add 
when a line starts with 'from' to make sure it's not mistaken for
the beginning of a new message. This is also the reason why it
happens only to some of us (see Joan's and Jason's messages).

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Re: Read only files - again

2001-05-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Marck,
On Sun, 20 May 2001, at 20:34:05 +0100 you wrote:

MDP Restore from CD is the only reason for this problem that I
MDP have been aware of. That's not to say there's no other
MDP reason, just that I don't know of one.

Copying from a read-only network share can be another.

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Re: Reply template... - how to improve?

2001-05-18 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jacek,
On Fri, 18 May 2001, at 11:36:58 +0200 you wrote:

JW I have the following reply template:
JW 
JW ---
JW Hi %OFromName,
JW 
JW On %ODate you wrote:
JW ---
JW 
JW Well - what I'd like to improve? Instead of %OFromName should
JW be the first name from Address Book. And when there is no
JW entry in my Address Book then insert %OFromName from the
JW From: field. Possible? I hope so... but how to do it?

Of course, you are using The Bat! :-) Just try

Hi %ABofromFIRSTNAME=%OFROMFNAME,

or even

Hi %ABofromHANDLE='%ABofromFIRSTNAME=%OFROMFNAME',

if you use the Address Book's Handle field for nicknames.

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Re: 1.52f driving me nuts!

2001-05-18 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Phillip,
On Fri, 18 May 2001, at 13:43:03 -0500 you wrote:

PW Previously, when composing a message, TB! worked much like
PW any other windows program. I could hold down the shift key
PW and use my arrow keys to extend a selection. Once I had a
PW selection, I could type, which would overwrite the selected
PW text, or hit backspace or delete, which would delete the
PW selected text, or paste in new text, which would also replace
PW the selected text. If I moved the text cursor at all, the
PW selection was canceled.

It seems that the default behaviour of the editor was changed
somehow. But that can be corrected easily. Go to 'Options' -
'Editor Preferences', check the option 'Overwrite blocks' and
uncheck 'Persistent blocks'. That should solve your problem.

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Re: Auto-Reply Help Needed

2001-05-16 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Robert,
On Wed, 16 May 2001, at 13:07:04 -0400 you wrote:

RD Hello -- I just got started with Bat. One of the things I'm
RD trying to do is auto-forward spam to my ISP (they're asking
RD for this).

Why don't you use 'Forward To' on the action tab? Or am I getting
you wrong?

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Re: TheBat features

2001-05-16 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi jsvrp.gw,
On Wed, 16 May 2001, at 19:38:03 +0200 you wrote:

jg You can specify in the account properties, the maximum amount
jg of kilobytes you want to download. eg I have set it to 2000
jg kb. If there's a message larger than 2000 kb on the server,
jg The Bat! only downloads the header with information about the
jg size of the mail. With mail dispatch you can always download
jg the file later.

No, unless that behaviour has been changed recently, you cannot
download the mail later. It will be deleted if you haven't set
your Bat! to keep messages on the server for some time (which I
don't and didn't when I learnt about this 'feature' :-( ).

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Re: Default column settings

2001-05-15 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi jsvrp.gw,
On Tue, 15 May 2001, at 13:11:09 +0200 you wrote:

jg   You can check the  use the account default column
jg   settings in the properties dialog of folders.

jg   My question is where I can set the default column setting?

You can use any folder that has use the account default column
settings checked to change the defaults. Any change made to one
of the folders using the default settings will automatically be
applied to the others.

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Re: AB-Templates and Name-Order mismatch :-(

2001-05-14 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Mon, 14 May 2001, at 16:13:57 +0200 you wrote:

PP   I've got a problem with extracting names from the
PP   addressbook. Someone, let's name him Charlie Small writes
PP   me with his address [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the
PP   from-field of his emails looks like this:

PP   Small Charlie (Technic/Stage 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PP   So I created a AB-entry for him and wanted to use a special reply-template
PP   for making the greeting of my reply look like

PP   Hello Charlie

Try the following as a template (for new mails):

-
%TO=%TO=Small Charlie Technic/Stage 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-
Hi %ABtoFIRSTNAME,

%CURSOR

[...]
-

or for replies:

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%TO=%TO=Small Charlie Technic/Stage 1) [EMAIL PROTECTED]%-
Hi %ABofromFIRSTNAME,
you wrote ...,
%CURSOR
%QUOTES

[...]
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Re: AB-Templates and Name-Order mismatch :-(

2001-05-14 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Mon, 14 May 2001, at 16:31:20 +0200 you wrote:

PP I've found out it has to be [...]

PP Difficulty to find the %AB-macros in the help, but finally
PP I've found them just 10 secons after sending my scream-4-help
PP :-)

Those macros are just at the beginning of the macro list, what's
so difficult in finding them? :-))

PP Thx nevertheless, I know somebody would have answered my question :-)

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Re: AB-Templates and Name-Order mismatch :-(

2001-05-14 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Mon, 14 May 2001, at 18:35:50 +0200 you wrote:

PP in the english help-file they're at the beginning if you read
PP the page from bottom up ;-)

But why don't you use the German help file then?

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Re: TB and OpenPGP

2001-05-12 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Silviu,
On Sat, 12 May 2001, at 15:55:51 +0300 you wrote:

SC I imported the public key of a friend of mine into the key
SC manager but I cant set the validity level... Whenever I try
SC to check the signature of his mail it turns out invalid and
SC there's a grey dot in the Validity column. What is going on ?

You have to sign a public key to express that this key is from
the person it pretends to be. After that the key will be valid
and you can change the level of trust you put in that person (and
therefore in the keys this person signs).

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Re: text formating

2001-05-07 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dwight,
On Mon, 7 May 2001, at 06:52:32 -0500 you wrote:

DAC I just posted a message where I created text, then severely
DAC edited it, leaving some very long lines and some very short
DAC lines. I used alt-j to reflow, but I really don't like text
DAC with lots of extra spaces. I'd rather just reflow with a
DAC jagged right margin. Is there a key stroke to accomplish
DAC that?

What about Alt-L? Also have a look at the menu 'Utilities' -
'Format Block' to see the different possibilities and their
shortcuts.

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dierk,
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, at 17:56:07 +0200 you wrote:

DH As you yourself implicitly stated, you need his key and they
DH must be signed by you. And you have to set up the trust level
DH to full.

That's not completely true. You only need to adjust the trust
settings of Marck's keys (or of anyone else) if you want to
automatically trust keys which were signed by Marck.

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Re: I need help on filtering HTML email

2001-04-29 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Silviu,
On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 13:07:40 +0300 you wrote:


SC Also I would suggest that you add those strings to the Kill
SC filters (or Selective download filters as they are called now
SC in 1.51). Else they don't work so well.

That depends on your attitude towards the Selective Download
filters. Any rule in there means that TB! must first download the
headers, then check for any unwanted messages and then download
the whole e-mail (including the headers again). So if you receive
100 messages, the headers will be transferred 2 times, or 200
headers if you want to put it that way. This will take a pretty
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Re: Address Book Uninstall problems

2001-04-28 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Shauna,
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, at 06:25:04 -0600 you wrote:

LG How did the transfer take place?

SS I did a straight transfer over the network.

From a read-only directory, I guess (which would be the usual and
sensible case :-)

SS That was the problem, though, apparently, it's not just
SS transferring via CDR that causes the attributes to change.

Transferring from a read-only network resource is just the same
thing. Windows seems to check what it is allowed to do on the
source drive and adjusts the file attributes accordingly.

SS Do you suppose the write protection also explains why the
SS uninstall didn't work?

No, IIRC the problems with the uninstall routine is a long
standing annoyance. But I wouldn't want to uninstall TB! anyway
:-)

SS I'll keep Allie's instructions just in case.

I guess that would be a good idea. That way you will surely get a
clean re-install.

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Re: I need help on filtering HTML email

2001-04-28 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Silviu,
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, at 18:04:20 +0300 you wrote:


SC I'm trying to figure out a way to filter out HTML e-mail and
SC also I want to filter out e-mail messages that are both HTML
SC and plain-text.

Try the following rule:

String:   multipart/alternative
Location: Kludges
Presence: Yes

Or search for String:  multipart/html   to get html only
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Re: Address Book Uninstall problems

2001-04-27 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Shauna,
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, at 19:23:33 -0600 you wrote:

SS About a month ago, I transferred all my data to a new
SS computer. Since then (though I can't swear with absolute
SS certainty that the problem didn't exist before), I have had
SS problems with the address book.

How did the transfer take place? Did you put your directories on
a CDR to copy them to the new machine?

SS [...]

SS Basically, though I can use and edit the existing address
SS book entries, I can only add new entries to a new address
SS When I fill out the new contact form and hit OK, the form
SS remains on the screen for several seconds and then
SS disappears, but the address is not added (this is actually an
SS improvement - at one point, it would shut the program down).
SS book.

The problem I suspect is that your AB files could be write-
protected (which will happen automatically if you copy files from
a CDR to your HDD). I had exactly that problem some time ago and
the symptoms were the same that you described.

SS Also, although I have 3 address books in my Mail folder, only
SS 2 of them show up when I open the program.

If my suggestion above is true, the reason for this is obvious.
The third AB was created on the new machine and therefore it is
not write-protected. But TB! must add it to its addressbook.ini
file, which I suppose is write-protected. As that can't be done
you address book isn't remembered after restarting the programme.

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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-24 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, at 08:32:33 +0200 you wrote:

PM I entered %NOSIGNCOMPLETE in the templates of that particular
PM folder, but to no result.

Maybe you have defined an Address Book template for that list?
The AB template has a higher priority, therefore your settings on
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Re: Network Settings

2001-04-23 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Ottar,
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, at 14:41:03 +0200 you wrote:

JL How does TheBat recognize  use the DSL connection?

OG This will for The Bat! look like a network connection.

Not in all cases. I am on DSL, and it is treated like a dial-up
connection by Windows (and by TB!, too).

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Re: Purge Compress

2001-04-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Peter,
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, at 14:38:46 +0200 you wrote:

PM what is the difference between purging and compressing my
PM folders? In both cases my TB! seems to do exactly the same,
PM i.e., compress...

Purging removes old messages according to the settings of the
folder *and* compresses, while compress only (yeah, right...)
compresses a folder.

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Re: SECURITY.NNOV: The Bat! cr bug

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Marck,
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, at 10:10:41 +0100 you wrote:

BC (I'm hoping this has already been addressed in the latest
BC Betas.)

MDP It has. From the Beta/4 announcement:

MDP [-] When an attachment's file name contained CRLFs, "virus
MDP warning" was not working.

I don't think so, Marck, because a) Beta/4 was released on April
4th (RIT was informed about the bug on April 13th) and b) the bug
report is about problems with downloading malformed messages via
pop3, not about a virus warning. Perhaps they addressed it in
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Re: Norton antivirus and the bat

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Russ,
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, at 11:07:06 +0100 you wrote:

RM The receive mail section has an 'authentification' box you
RM can press to get to more settings and that was the box I was
RM refering to. Normally I had gmx set to the highest setting in
RM there (md5 cram I think the third one down anyway, the 4th
RM down is greyed out to me) but this setting now gives the
RM server reports err message and I had to go back to using
RM 'regular' ie the topmost 'radio button'.

I didn't even know that GMX supports CRAM-MD5, so I never tried
that. I'm glad everything works fine for you, now.

BTW, are you changing your Headers somehow? Your messages don't
thread here, which is quite annoying. I can see from your
headers, that the In-Reply-To: and References: contain only the
ID of your own message even if you reply to one of my messages.

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Re: Norton antivirus and the bat

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, at 16:48:40 -0400 you wrote:

DC Yes, I made the comparable change--and after the change can't
DC connect to the server.

What is your pop3 server now? It should be pop3.norton.antivirus.
And your user name consists of two parts, your old user name and,
separated with a slash, your ISP's pop3 server. (See also:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg23926.html)

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Re: Norton antivirus and the bat

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Russ,
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, at 21:57:31 +0100 you wrote:

RM Not exactly no. I get the digest version of the list which
RM changes the subject line and headers et all.

Ah, I see.

RM I just chenged the subject and copied and pasted the text I
RM wanted to reply to/quote when I used the reply button in TB!

Well, I think that is one of the best solutions for digest
replies. But it won't go to an existing thread, which is obvious
as you are *not* replying to one of my messages but to the
digest.

RM Sorry for the confusion I didn't know what else to use
RM without just quoting the entire digest header or starting a
RM new email each time, neither seemed a good idea.

Changing the digest header was definitely a good idea and got you
some readers who otherwise would have ignored the message
(including myself :-).

RM What would have been a better way to do this?

The solution presented in another thread was to change from
digest mode into normal mode vbg. I don't know if this is
really better, I think it depends on your personal needs. I for
myself wouldn't even think about digest mode :-)

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Re: Ignoring Reply-To (was: --- OK, can I do this?)

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jason,

(Starting to talk to myself, I wonder what my psychologist would
say about that :-)

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, at 07:06:28 +0200 Lars wrote:

JE is there a way to set it up so that *for this person only*
JE the Bat ignored the reply-to

LG Create an AB reply template for that person, and put this
LG line somewhere into it:
LG %TO=""%TO="%ABOFromFirstName %ABOFromLastName %ABOFromEmail"

LG I don't know if this works as I have no scenario to test it

I just did some testing and it really works (unlike others have
reported!). You just have to be careful, the Address Book entry
*must* contain both addresses for that person on separate lines.
That is important! Let's say Mr John Doe has 2 e-mail addresses,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] The second one will
be his Reply-To. Now, for TB! to select the proper Address Book
template (that of John Doe) for [EMAIL PROTECTED], this address
must be listed in John Doe's Address Book entry and I guess it
mustn't be listed in any other AB entry (not sure about that).

I hope this will help you, Jason, and it will prevent the
unnecessary use of folder templates (For Marck: :-)

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Re: Norton antivirus and the bat

2001-04-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, at 17:56:40 -0400 you wrote:

DC New settings that don't work:

DC Mail Server:pop3.norton.antivirus
DC User:   dcohen23/pop-server.nyc.rr.com

DC Incidentally, the help file in the Norton version I'm using
DC (Norton 2000) says to change the pop server to: 127.0.0.1.

pop3.norton.antivirus is an alias for 127.0.0.1 (or localhost) in
your $windir\hosts file, so no DNS lookup takes place when
accessing that host.

DC I tried that as well, and it too doesn't work, although the
DC log indicates that I am connecting to the server, although
DC nothing is downloaded.

Well, have you set your pop3 to a higher security level? In
Account properties - Transport - Receive mail - Authentication
you can for example activate CRAM-MD5, which may not work with
Norton AV. Try the first setting 'Regular'.

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Re: Norton antivirus 2001 the bat

2001-04-19 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Russ,
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 22:32:31 +0100 you wrote:

RM I am using a trial version of norton antivirus 2001 [...]
RM manually configure account settings, ie basically changing
RM the pop server from your default isp thing to go through
RM norton as pop.norton or something along those lines.

It works well, unless you are using a recent Beta, because TB!
Beta/3, 4 and 7 seem unable to delete mail on the server in
conjunction with Norton AV. You just have to enable 'Manual
configuration of e-mail accounts' (or something like that, I use
a German version) in Norton AV.

RM My question is this, I have (at the moment) 3 email accounts
RM all with unique settings that I dload all at once. [...] So I
RM would like any suggestions on whether to bother with using
RM the manual setup or not and if so how best to do so with the
RM bat, ie any other security or otherwise settings to alter in
RM either the bat or norton.

In TB! change the settings of the desired accounts to use
'pop3.norton.antivirus' as pop3 server. Then put the real pop3
server after your user name, seperated with a slash. So your new
settings for GMX, for example, would be:

pop3:pop3.norton.antivirus
user:1234567/pop.gmx.net
pass:* (whatever)

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Re: Norton antivirus and the bat

2001-04-19 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Russ,
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, at 22:42:26 +0100 you wrote:

RM So far so good, everything works well :)

Fine.

RM I had set my gmx security account settings to the highest
RM allowed (ie checking all the boxes ) in the account/transport
RM window but had to go back to 'regular' to get gmx to respond
RM (server reports err was all I got otherwise).

Please explain that to me, I can't find the security setting you
mention in 'Account properties - Transport'.

RM Is this the correct setting to use? Or is there another
RM setting I should change in TB or maybe on GMX itself? Thanks
RM again for all the help, it is much appreciated. :)

See above, unfortunately I can't find the setting, so I can't
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Re: Ignoring Reply-To (was: --- OK, can I do this?)

2001-04-19 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jason,
On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, at 19:13:42 -0400 you wrote:

JE So... is there a way to set it up so that *for this person
JE only* the Bat ignored the reply-to he has specified and sends
JE to his personal address? Just for this person? The "from"
JE address is his personal address, it's the reply-to that is
JE the general address.

Well, try the following: Create an AB entry, containing both the
regular e-mail address *and*, in a second line, the support
e-mail address. Now create an AB reply template for that person,
and put this line somewhere into it:

%TO=""%TO="%ABOFromFirstName %ABOFromLastName %ABOFromEmail"

I don't know if this works as I have no scenario to test it, but
give it a try. BTW, you could also write the name directly, e.g.
%TO=""%TO="John Doe %ABOFromEmail", but the first one is more
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Re: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-18 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Andr,
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 08:08:41 +0200 you wrote:

AE What I'll try to do now is re-install TB!

AE That didn't fix the problem. :-(

You can set this in the 'Editor options'. There are two check
boxes named 'persistent blocks' and 'overwrite blocks' (or 'Block
berschreibbar' and 'Block nicht berschreibbar' in German).
Check the first one and uncheck the second one. That should do
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Re: can't delete text with del key anymore

2001-04-18 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Andr,
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 08:38:52 +0200 you wrote:

AE Nope,  but  the opposite did! Thanks for pointing me there! I
AE had both unchecked first,  I  did  as  you recommended and
AE nothing changed, I checked only the "overwrite blocks" option
AE and now it works again!

That's what I meant, I just mixed them up.

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Re: No MailTicker anymore...

2001-04-18 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Olivier,
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, at 17:50:44 +0200 you wrote:

 Well, I presume you've double checked the obvious... Options/Mail
 Ticker


Your messages will wrap a lot better if you switch off PGP's word
wrapping.

Marck, what do you think, shouldn't this be in the FAQ under the
PGP section? When rewriting the FAQ I suggest adding this.

 I modified the registry settings, could not get it back. I
 suppose I should try removing every RITLabs registry setting.

What did you modify? The key where the ticker settings are stored
is HKCU/Software/RIT/The Bat!/Ticker. You should delete the
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Printing messages

2001-04-16 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Bat-friends,

I just realised a strange behaviour (I would call it a bug) when
printing messages.

When printing a message with a line that contains something like
"mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]", TB! will add a semi-colon at the
end. So my signature below will print as


 [...]  gmx.net;|
t=GetPublicKey; |

Is this a (known) bug or is there some intention behind I just
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Re: Printing messages

2001-04-16 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi A,
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, at 05:28:40 -0500 you wrote:

 In the future, please be careful not to report to TBUDL, bugs
 you encounter while using beta software.

I took some time thinking about the question to which group I
should post this. :-)

 TBBETA is where this should be done, *unless* :=) you
 explicitly mention that you've noted this problem in the last
 official version as well.

I have, and next time I'll mention that. It was just coincidence
that I stumbled over that bug again and used a beta at that time.
I just wanted to make sure that this is a bug and not my system.
And I thought TBUDL would be the best place to find out if it
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Re: Printing messages

2001-04-16 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Marck,
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, at 12:02:56 +0100 you wrote:

 I'd like to add that bugs reported on the BETA list as being in
 a /specific/ beta version seem to get swept into that round of
 fixes before the beta is released. Just a thought :-).

I'll keep that in mind for the next time, but it would be quite
strange to report that bug again to TBBETA now :-)

So I have just sent in a bug report.

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Re: Search for No Sender messages

2001-04-15 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi jlaikan,
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, at 21:00:26 +0400 you wrote:

 The problem is that Filters use InBox  Outbox as source
 folders, but my incoming "no sender" messages have already been
 moved automatically to other folders using "Subject" as
 filtering string.

That's not a problem at all, you just have to put the rule which
assigns a color group at the top of the list *and* activate
'Continue processing with other filters'. This way your messages
are assigned a color group first (marking them as potential spam)
and then moved to another folder.

Just be careful and set the source *and* destination folder for the
spam rule to 'Inbox', because otherwise your other filters won't
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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

2001-04-13 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 12:41:30 +0800 you wrote:

 The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type
 is text/html.

On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
.shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
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Re: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)

2001-04-13 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 15:38:36 +0800 you wrote:

DE Are these differences caused by the different mail servers?

 I don't think that the mail server can change the name of an
 attachment.

I just exported that particular message and had a closer look at
the headers and the message body. First of all, there is no name
for the attachment anywhere. That reminds me of a thread some
time ago about the differences in the appearance of a html
attachment in TB!, some people reporting .stm, some .shtml and
some other extensions.

The second problem is that there is no plain text part, only the
html part. So obviously that's the reason why TB! refused to
delete the html part, as there would have been nothing left to
display :-) So I guess TB! can only delete a html part if the
content type is multipart/alternative.


DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it
DE looked like
DE Archives   :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe:

 Ack.

Same here, and that's really strange, as these lines are correct
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Re: Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

2001-04-13 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 16:16:25 +0800 you wrote:

 Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message
 with a content-type text/html?

I think that a message with content type text/html contains
*only* a html part and that's the reason why TB! is unable to
delete that part. Deleting the only content would create an empty
message. So IMHO it is the right thing not to let the user delete
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Re: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)

2001-04-13 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 09:58:10 +0100 you wrote:

 Interesting idea. It looks like it based on the set up of each
 receiving computer

It seems so.

Have a look at Marck's bug report:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg23001.html

And this is the thread where the problems regarding different
extensions on different machines was discussed:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg22937.html

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Re: Another time macro mistake!

2001-04-08 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Roland,
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, at 09:45:38 +0200 you wrote:

 That isn't right! I only use "%ODate" and I don't have the
 German version! I don't know how it is possible to get the
 German version of the date.

I also use %ODate in my reply template and it produces a correct
date in German format. What do your Windows localisation settings
say? Perhaps you changed your country settings for some reason?

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Re: Another time macro mistake!

2001-04-08 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Roland,
On Sun, 8 Apr 2001, at 10:43:53 +0200 you wrote:

 Country settings in control panel say: Deutsch (Standard)!

 Here my RegEx:
 
%WRAPPED='on%SETPATTREGEXP="(?m-s)Date\:\s*?((.*?[\d]{4})\s*?([\d]{0,2}\:[\d]{0,2})\s*?(.*))"%REGEXPMATCH="%HEADERS"
 GMT (which was %ODateShort, %OTime +0100 GMT where I live) %OFromName wrote:'

It won't work because you don't use %ODate in your regexp, do
you? Your regexp takes just the whole information from the "Date:
..." line from the headers and puts it into your message. If you
want the date to be in German, try something like

%WRAPPED='am %ODate schrieb %OFromName:'

This will produce the correct output. But if you use a regexp to
get the date and timezone from the headers, how should that be
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Re: So, suppose you wnat to make a filter 4 the mailing list...

2001-04-07 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Fabio,
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, at 20:02:40 +0200 you wrote:

 belive or not, my The Bat! 1.51, still doesn't filter the
 mailing list messages :-(

Have you got any other filters, for example to assign a colour
group or something like that? In that case you should enable
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Re: So, suppose you wnat to make a filter 4 the mailing list...

2001-04-06 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Fabio,
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, at 19:10:16 +0200 you wrote:

 which paramenter you will use !?

You should have received a welcome message where this procedure
is explained rather clearly. To quote that message:

===8==Original message text===

It would probably be a good idea for you to set up a folder to
keep TBUDL messages in. If you do this, the next most useful
thing to have in place is an automatic filter to move mail from
your inbox into your TBUDL folder.

Set up a filter for incoming mail which looks for 
Strings LocationPresence
TBUDL   Recipient Yes

===8===End of original message text===

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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Marck,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, at 10:36:56 +0100 you wrote:

 ZoneAlarm problems occur with Win2k Pro and not Win98/ME.

 Please refer to the message I am referencing in the archive.
 The problem Frank was describing is *exactly* the same. The
 response I have given is the solution given at that time.

Yes, I agree. I just wanted to point out that this is no problem
here. Allie said that the problem occurred when using Win2k, SP1
*and* ZoneAlarm. But everything works fine on my machine. So I
guess ZoneAlarm was fixed and I suggest to Frank to download the
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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Frank,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, at 12:12:09 +0200 you wrote:

 I forgot to include this program. I know I should. I'll try the
 solution you gave me and the we'll see.

Which version of ZoneAlarm are you using? 2.1.25 or 2.1.44? My
software configuration is similar to yours (Win2k, SP1, ZoneAlarm
2.1.44) and I am not experiencing the problem you describe. I
think I remember that the problems concerning SP1 and ZoneAlarm
were fixed with the release of 2.1.44. So perhaps you should
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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-04-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi A,
On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, at 06:23:27 -0500 you wrote:

 Do you use a dial-up connection

Yes.

 and do you leave your machine running all the time?

No.

 I haven't used ZoneAlarm for some time. I don't know if they
 have further improved on how it functions with Win2k. All I
 remember is that I had misery with unpredictable internet
 connection failures, cured by reboots, until I uninstalled
 ZoneAlarm from my system.

I didn't know it behaved badly without reboots, usually my system
runs only 12 h a day, so I have never experienced this.

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Re: Quote Cursor Position

2001-03-31 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Tim,
On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, at 17:13:09 +0100 you wrote:

 When placing the cursor under a line of quoted text and typing, the
 cursor 'pops up' and typing occurs next to the quoted text rather
 than in the line under it (unless I press enter twice).

 Is there a remedy for this?

That's because you have 'Auto Format' activated. Turn it off in
the editor preferences and this will behave as you expect it. Or
you can just leave a blank line after the quoted text (which is
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Re: Problem fetching mail.

2001-03-31 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi A,
On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, at 21:57:36 -0500 you wrote:

 ZoneAlarm problems occur with Win2k Pro and not Win98/ME. In
 fact it works fine with Win2k once the service pack hasn't been
 applied.

Well, I *am* using Win2k Pro, SP1, Zone Alarm and I don't have
any problems. IIRC there was a version which came out after the
problems with SP1, so I guess they fixed it.

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Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)

2001-03-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dwight,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, at 19:01:16 -0600 you wrote:

 What folders I have created up to now, of course, I didn't know
 I needed to do this, but if I had known it wouldn't have saved
 me on most of my folders.  Starting out by setting up 5
 accounts, there are 20 folders created immediately (inbox,
 outbox, sent and trash * 5). Most of the other fifty are
 imported folders, not ones I have created in TB.

If you want to change the settings for all folders (at least for
all of one account) I would suggest using the keyboard. That's a
pretty fast way for doing such a general change. Mark the first
folder and press ALTENTER, ALTU, ENTER, DOWNARROW.
You can repeat this sequence until all your folder settings are
corrected.

 On the subject of importing and wishlists -- It sure would be
 nice to be able to import address books.
 
It *is* possible to import address books. Not all formats out in
the world, I agree, but you can import LDIF or CSV, and most
programs can export to one of these. Or third party tools like
Dawn can do the export.

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Norbert,
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, at 10:01:46 +0100 you wrote:

 In the light of your comments re html and seeing that your
 signature separator is incorrect (I had to delete it manually
 in this reply)

It is a correct signature delimiter which was changed by PGP and
still is a correct delimiter.

 and your signature consists of (counting, counting...) 18 lines
 instead of the four (max) that are usually recommended, perhaps
 you could improve on that.

It is 4 lines long, including 4 blank lines (each one a 2 byte
increase in message size. Not too much, I'd say). And his PGP
signature which is generally not counted as signature on this
list.

 I have never seen a list with so much information (redundant,
 in my view) at the bottom of many mails.

It is recommended to have this information in your signature,
because it makes helping and bug tracking easier. You need not
hunt down a bug that was corrected some versions ago :-)

 Why put a PGP signature at the bottom of a mailing to a list,
 other than for the simple reason that The Bat can?

I don't think anyone here uses PGP just because "The Bat can".
It's up to everybody to decide if they want to send their
messages with or without a PGP signature.

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Re: Folder settings (was: Changing message replyto via filter)

2001-03-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Karin,
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, at 19:57:32 +0200 you wrote:

 press ALTENTER, ALTU, ENTER, DOWNARROW

 Yammie! I never realised that. I had some quite folders to
 correct as well, and could never bring myself to go through the
 hassle. But this *is* a fast procedure. Thanks!

Of course, this works for other folder settings as well. But you
have to be careful, as the shortcuts are different, depending on
the language setting of TB!. ALTU becomes ALTL in the
German version of The Bat! and so on.

BTW, anyone noticed that there is no underlined letter for 'Use
folder-specific print settings' in the German language file?

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Re: Changing message replyto via filter

2001-03-29 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dwight,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, at 14:27:18 -0600 you wrote:

 Is there a way to modify the columns universally, or do you
 have to do it separately for every mailbox?

Well, I don't exactly know what you mean with 'for every mailbox'
but you can do it on an account level. You can activate 'Use the
account default folder settings' for some folders. Any change
that will be applied to one of these folders will automatically
be applied to all.

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Re: incoming messages

2001-03-28 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Lynn,
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, at 13:27:49 -0700 you wrote:

 I have noticed that when i get incoming mail, my new mail
 sometimes gets put into a different folder then i have setup in
 filters. was wondering if anyone else has had this problem
 before, and if there's a solution to this? i have checked my
 filters to be sure that there wasn't anything that would move
 mail into a different folder then it was meant to go, and i'm
 out of ideas on how to correct this.  thanks

You have to be careful about the order of the filters. They are
processed from top to bottom. If a message matches a filter, the
specified actions take place, all filters that are below this one
are ignored and the next message will be processed (except if you
marked 'Continue processing with other filters'), again beginning
with the 1st rule.

So if your message are moved to folders which they are not
supposed to be in, check if there is some higher filter rule
which moved the message away before it reached the correct rule.

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Re: TB! PGP Macro

2001-03-26 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,

I'm sorry if anyone received this message before. It just never
returned from the list, so I decided to send it again.

On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, at 10:19:18 -0500 you wrote:

 Pardon my ignorance here but %insertpgpkey calls for key
 location. What is that/where can it be found.

Well, I don't use the internal PGP implementation but I just did
some testing. If I create e.g. a key for 'Lars Geiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED]', I could simply use %INSERTPGPKEY="Lars
Geiger" or %INSERTPGPKEY="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" to place my public
key in a message.

But that doesn't work with an external PGP implementation (at
least not here; please correct me if I'm wrong).

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Re: TB! PGP Macro

2001-03-26 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, at 08:09:23 -0500 you wrote:

 Ok, I inserted %INSERTPGPKEY="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" in the
 reply template for this msg. What am I supposed to see?

Nothing, if you do not use the internal PGP implementation. But
if you have a key for [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the internal PGP,
it will be inserted at the end of your message in some format
like this:

 -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
 Version: 2.6
 
 mQCPAzq/RGYBbQEEAOpDZb/S1WehMDznBwWT2zlqNt1nChtCLfKFGGhWfj2si7y8
 [...]
 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-

But as I stated above, it doesn't work with e.g. PGP 6.5.8

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Re: TB! PGP Macro

2001-03-26 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, at 08:57:42 -0500 you wrote:

 I guess I missed your reference to PGP v6.5.8. As that is the
 version I use, it becomes a moot point for me but I do
 appreciate your response.

I have made the same experience, and I use the following
procedure:

I've exported my public key to a file 'PublicPGPKey.asc'. This
file is in the same directory where I store my mails. If anyone
sends me a message requesting my public key, an automatic answer
is sent out, containing something like
%ATTACHFILE="D:\Internet\eMail\PublicPGPKey.asc".

The result is pretty much the same as %INSERTPGPKEYS="".

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Re: TB! PGP Macro

2001-03-26 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi daveiw,
On Mon, 26 Mar 2001, at 18:15:55 +0100 you wrote:

 I've done a similar thing, but used the '%PUT' command and used
 an earlier created text file (with my key in it) to send out on
 request automatically. The benefit of this is that the key is
 sent in the reply's message body and not as an attachment. :)

The advantage is that your key will also be signed. That's not
necessary if you put your fingerprint in the message body and
sign the fingerprint (however, it's an additional step for the
recipient).


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Re: Some PGP questions

2001-03-26 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Viboon,
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, at 11:20:37 +0800 you wrote:

 1. How can I put my public key inside a mail message? Is there
 a macro for this?

Have a look at the archive, where this problem was discussed less
than a week ago. The thread starts with the message
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg22998.html

 2. When I read email messages that have been signed, is it
 normal for me to see this (for example) when I "check the PGP
 signature":
 Name: The Bat!
 Signer: (Unknown, KeyID=0x098AEC13)
 Validity:
 Signed: 3/27/2001 11:00:39 AM (Unknown Key)
 What do I have to do to see the correct thing?

That *is* the correct thing if you don't have the signer's key in
your keyring. The Bat tells you only the facts. It hasn't got a
key, so it can't say anything about its validity and 'Signed'
just tells you that the signature fits the message, otherwise it
would simply read 'Bad signature'.

To cut a long story short, change your PGP settings on the
'Server' tab to synchronize keys on verification. This will
automatically get the public keys of the signer from a key
server.

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Re: TB! PGP Macro

2001-03-23 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi daveiw,
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, at 19:26:19 + you wrote:

 The  'insert  PGP  key' macro in TB! doesn't work for me,
 is it an error  or  does  it only work with the internal
 version of PGP? Please advise?

AFAIK, the %insertpgpkey="" macro works only with the internal
implementation. But you can export your public key to a file and
then add %attachfile="MyKey.asc" to your template. This will work
with an external PGP version.

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Re:  Secondary address in BCC

2001-03-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi David,
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, at 17:35:08 +0700 you wrote:

 I think you have to add the entry to your favorites by clicking
 on it in the AB. Then when you want to create a new message,
 you have to click on the little triangle next to the create a
 new message button and then on the name you want to send the
 message to. Works for for me.

Yes, that does it. But don't you think it should also work when
creating a new message with CTRLN and filling in the recipient
manually?

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Secondary address in BCC

2001-03-21 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Bat-fanatics,

I have just encountered a strange behaviour of my Bat! Can
anybody please confirm it or correct me?

I have an AB entry with 2 email addresses and I have activated
the entry's option to 'Automatically add secondary addresses to
BCC field'. Now, if I start a new message with a double click on
the AB entry, this option works how it's supposed to. But if I
start an new message and enter the name (or the handle, doesn't
matter) in the TO field, nothing happens, BCC remains empty.

Is this how it's supposed to be? Is it a bug/feature? Or am I
missing something obvious?

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Re: Strange Dial up Problems!!

2001-03-20 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dean,
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, at 17:36:44 -0600 you wrote:

 What one thing has to do with the other and why it seems to correlate
 to
 how the Bat! functions I couldn't tell you.  I do know if I run a
 registry
 utility and clean it up, defrag my disk, and then reload [...]

If you disable PGP line wrapping and leave the wrapping up to The
Bat!, your messages will be wrapped in a more legible way ;-)

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Re: What is the little down arrow on the New Mail Icon?

2001-03-14 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Tobias,
On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, at 15:36:56 +0100 you wrote:

 Not AFAIK. That button has never forked for me, eather. But
 when you are in the new message window you can choose in the
 From: field from which account to send.

It hasn't worked because that's not what it was intended to do.
With the little arrow next to the create new message button, you
can choose from a number of recipients marked as 'Favorit' in
your AB.

If you want to choose the account from which the message will be
sent, you can either select a folder of that account before
creating a new message or select the account in the status bar at
the bottom of the editor window.

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Re: How to remove an attachment?

2001-03-08 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi syv,
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, at 09:00:55 -0800 you wrote:

  I receive emails with attachment that I want moved to another
  folder but w/o the attachment.

How about selecting the attachment and pressing DEL? It works
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Re: TB! CKT 6.5.8 plugin?

2001-02-27 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Gerd,
On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, at 09:43:10 +0100 you wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
 Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-1 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.51

Have you found a suitable way to get GPG to work with TB! ?

Could you tell me, how you did that?

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Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-25 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi jlaikan,
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 20:26:44 +0400 you wrote:

 What I said is that the logo's animation gives the impression
of some advertising going on.Put 2 computers running the Bat!
side by side (one with animation and the other without). Any
visitor coming in will more probably notice the animated bat,
look into the program get interested to it, try it and maybe buy
it.

So you say that the flapping wings of the bat will attract
attention? You see, that's exactly what they are made for. The
flapping wings are supposed to draw the user's attention to the
fact that there are new messages. If you don't like this design,
you can turn it off, it's just that simple. And all the others
can use it as new mail notification.

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Re: Flying bats, have some rest please.

2001-02-25 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dave,
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001, at 14:37:15 -0500 you wrote:

LG the fact that there are new messages

 Actually the icon animation draws attention to the fact that
 there are UNREAD messages, which is not quite the same thing

Well, usually new messages are unread (unless any filter changed
that) :-) but you are right, it's a difference.

 The icon animation would be a lot more useful if it did
 actually work in the way you suggest. One possibility would be
 for the icon to animate only if there are new messages since
 the last time TB had focus. Perhaps the developers will take
 notice

It's one of those features I like as it is but others surely have
different opinions. If the icon behaved the way you suggest it, I
could never be sure if there are no unread messages or if the bat
just accidentally had the focus some time ago.

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Re: ctrl-+ problem with laptop; resolving nicknames

2001-02-19 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, at 16:06:11 +0100 you wrote:

 [notebook problem snipped]

Sorry, I can't say anything about that. I suppose you will have
to wait for V2 and it's user definable shortcuts, as TB! V1.4x
relies on scan codes for the short cuts.

 why does resolve not work with the nicknames? i think
 remebering a name via the nicknames is the best thing, but in
 The Bat! it is hardly supported :-(

Using nicknames (or handles as TB! calls them) works perfectly
here. Just enter the nicknames of the recipients and press TAB
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Re: unfolding+signs in subject column

2001-02-17 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi atelier1,
On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, at 11:04:54 +0100 you wrote:

 anyone knows of a keyboard shortcut to open all the +signs in a
 subject sorted column

CTRL+* on the keypad does exactly that. Unfortunately there is
only a workaround to close all threads. You need to press Alt+0
to switch to 'No threading' and then Alt+1 or Alt+2 to return to
your previous way of threading.

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Re: PGP 7.0.3

2001-02-14 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Deniz,
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, at 17:42:55 +0200 you wrote:

 I wonder if the last version of TheBat! supports PGP 7.0.3 ?

No, support for PGP is achieved via a .dll file. You will need an
updated .dll to support PGP 7.0.3 but this is not available yet.

 I'm running 6.5.8 for now, I installed 7.0.3 and my TheBat!
 (1.47) doesn't support it..

And this won't change until the source code for PGP 7.0.3 is
released, so the developers know what has changed since 6.5.

 BTW, I disliked series since 1.47 because of new "pop before
 smtp" auth system.

What's wrong with 'POP before SMTP' in your opinion? If your ISP
doesn't require it, just deactivate it.

 Is there a way to make TB1.47 support PGP7.0.3 ?

See above.

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Re: Getting Norton to see TB!

2001-02-13 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Yuki,
On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, at 21:50:12 +0900 you wrote:

 I'm running Norton 2001 AV, but I cannot get it to "see" TB!,
 so I cannot configure it to check e-mail as it comes in. TB! is
 my default mailer, and is listed that way in MSIE's
 Tools/Internet Options/Programs page. But when I open Norton to
 the e-mail setup page, TB! is not listed as one of the choices.
 I'd like to clue Norton in. (^_-)

Well, TB! isn't known to Norton AV as a MUA. It can't change
TB!'s configuration even if it is registered as the default
mailer on your system. There should be a section in the help file
about manual configuration of mailers to use Norton AV.

If you can't find it (I couldn't but I didn't search very hard),
feel free to ask again and I'll try to recall the steps for
manual settings.

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Re: Mail dispatcher and an ot question about forwarding addresses

2001-02-05 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Krister,
On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, at 13:53:40 +0100 you wrote:

KE Oops, think it's time to turn to the developers... I
KE don't think these tickboxes are, as we blinks say,
KE accessible... This means that there isn't an easy way to get
KE to 'em and manipulate them.

What easier way than clicking on them are you looking for? :-)
Well, you can still right-click on the checkboxes to toggle their
status, to mark all, un-mark all, etc.

KE Oh yes, there are shortcuts, but there isn't an easy way to
KE see if these boxes are checked or not.

Well, actually you can *see* if they are checked or not. Or am I
getting you wrong?

KE [...] asking them to please make KE KE the check boxes in
KE the dispatcher "more standard". Thanks for the explanation,
KE Thomas.

In what respect do you think of them as 'non-standard'?

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Re: Can The Bat! retrieve HTTP mail (Hotmail)?

2001-02-01 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Bruno,
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, at 23:16:49 -0800 you wrote:

BH I am trying-out The Bat! 1.49 as a potential replacement for
BH OLE 5.5

Good choice :-)

BH Two questions:
BH 1. Can I configure The Bat! to retrieve mail from my Hotmail
BH account? (HTTP mail). I can do this with OLE 5.5

But not with TB!, sorry. You might want to try a web2pop service.
But as I've never used anything like that, I hope someone else
can jump in here.

BH 2. Is there a "News" module that is available for The Bat! I
BH still need to fire-up OLE 5.5 to be able to use its news
BH reader.

No, TB! is not a news reader. Rumours are going around that TB!
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Re: Move msg to another Account?

2001-01-31 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Nick,
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, at 11:04:57 -0800 you wrote:

NA At 10:35 AM 31/01/01, Gerry Doyon wrote:

I hope you were just joking around when you said that. We all
would like people to try things and read the "manual" so to
speak before asking a question, but, stating that a person had
a dumb question is, IMHO, not a good thing to do, especially
for a moderator.

NA Well said Gerry, and I would take it a step further, and send
NA a letter to the List Owner. That is yet another unacceptable
NA comment by Wolfgang, and should not be tolerated.

I think both of you misunderstood Wolfgang. IMO 'dumb question'
referred to his question: 'why didn't you simply try it?'

I don't think that something similar is common in English
speaking countries but in Germany it's quite usual to declare
something a 'dumb question' ("Dumme Frage") if you can't
understand something. It's just a literal translation which
obviously caused some misunderstanding.

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Re: info-request

2001-01-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Roel,
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 18:58:14 +0100 you wrote:

R does anyone have a complete list of all the available macros?
R (with or without explenation)

R ps: maybe a hint for the faq?

Such a list exists, have a look at the help file under 'Message
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Re: info-request

2001-01-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Roel,
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, at 19:40:32 +0100 you wrote:

R I just found it myself :-)
R my mistake :-)

If you think about the general state of the help file it's not
surprising that you didn't look for an answer there. :-)

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Re: Same messages?

2001-01-24 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Gary,
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, at 16:22:19 -0800 you wrote:

GB STOP SPAMING ME WITH THESE MESSAGES !!!

Before you start shouting at someone, you should perhaps read to
the end of one of the mails you receive and click the
unsubscribe link. That should solve your problems.

It's quite normal to receive a lot of mails after subscribing to
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Re: Speel Checker

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Thomas,
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, at 00:03:19 +0800 you wrote:

T I have added a few words to my personal dictionary by
T mistake. they are spelled wrongly but the spell checker will
T of course not underline them any more.

T How do I delete the wrong entries again?

When composing a new message, open 'Spell Checker' -
'Dictionaries'. There you can choose from all dictionaries and
you get a list of the words in that dictionary. Now you can
easily remove the wrong entries.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 15:10:49 -0500 you wrote:

JR To any of you who use GMX mail servers, I am having some
JR difficulty using this server w TB!. I rcv eMail ok but can't
JR send.

No problems here. Via the web interface change your 'Options' -
'Security' to 'SMTP with login'.

JR POP.GMX.co.uk and MAIL.GMX.co.uk

I didn't know those existed, but they are resolved to the same
IP as pop.gmx.net and mail.gmx.net, should be no problem then.

JR Authentication:
JR Use RFC 2554 protocol
JR Use settings of Mail Retrieval
JR Use POP before SMTP authentication

As you activated support for RFC 2554 on the SMTP server a bit
earlier this message, you can now deactivate 'Use POP before
SMTP authentication' in the account properties. I hope this
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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 15:55:25 -0500 you wrote:

Lars Change 'Options' - 'Security' to 'SMTP with login'.

JR   Not quite sure what you mean here.

GMX supports three methods of SMTP authentication. The newest
and most secure one is 'SMTP with login' (commonly known as RFC
2554). If you created your account before a certain date (I
don't remember it exactly) the security option is set to 'POP
before SMTP' as default. This is how the SMTP server expects the
client to authenticate. Note: these are the settings of GMX,
they have nothing to do with your account properties in TB! You
can change them if you log in on their web site. I would
recommend activating RFC 2554 (or at least checking if it is
already activated).

JR My current settings look like this now:

JR SMTP Server = mail.gmx.co.uk

OK, as I wrote before.

JR Perform SMTP authentication (RFC 2554) *not* selected
JR Use POP before SMTP authentication *is* selected

These two depend on what you activated in GMX' options. As
stated above, I recommend activating RFC 2554 in your GMX
account and then activate this setting in your account
properties in TB! and *deactivate* 'Use POP before SMTP
authentication'. Your settings in TB! have to be the same as
GMX' server settings. The SMTP server will refuse a connection
if you don't authenticate yourself the way it expects you to.

[rest snipped, should be no problem]

I hope this will fix your problems.

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Re: TB! v1.49 - GMX mail servers

2001-01-22 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Jan,
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, at 20:57:49 -0500 you wrote:

JR TB! Settings:
JR Transport Settings:
JR   SMTP Server = mail.gmx.co.uk
JR   Authentication: Perform SMTP authentication [selected]
JR   Use settings of Mail Retrieval [selected]
JR   User  password re-entered  confirmed correct

JR   Result: I can rcv mail but I can't send mail.

This is getting strange now. As you can rcv mail, your user name
and password settings must be correct, so no need to change
this. BTW, the SMTP server accepts both your customer number and
your complete eMail address as user name, I just checked this.

What error does TB! report when trying to send mail?

Feel free to contact me off-list, as this is becoming quite a
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