Simnet links are just point-to-point, so they're perhaps not too
interesting if you're deeply concerned about details such as Appointed
Forwarder operation or DR election, at least on those links, but you can
use one or two real external Ethern
, it uses physical
interfaces.
If you really need to keep it out of the global zone for some reason, I
think you'll need to run it in a VM. But I don't understand the
scenario in which that would be required.
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r is
a fixed e1000g driver that handles the multiple unicast slots properly,
or one that at least allows you to disable the slots so that the VNIC
logic is forced to use promiscuous mode itself.
You might try crossbow-disc...@opensolaris.org. They may have other ideas.
ent fact that it's not doing that is a bug.
Since this zone and the global zone are on the same subnet, one possible
option here is to go with shared IP stack rather than exclusive.
Or, as another possible work-around, you could put that interface into
promiscuous mode at a pretty low lev
than what we had for S10. Forcing users to
put zones on distinct ZFS datasets seems to me like a trivial matter
that ends up simplifying and providing a lot of benefit.
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nts).
Although possible, it's unclear to me whether any of that would be
desirable. "So, what problem is it you're solving here?"
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nge behavior or disappear without warning
-- even in a patch. Only things that are actually intended for use by
users, administrators, or third party developers are included in the
system documentation.
The paperwork required to use that sort of interface within Sun:
http://arc.opensolaris.org
or we're not. If we're not, then I'm going
to set up secure protocols to talk; I'm not going to trust my data to
any sort of partitioning scheme -- whether subnets, VLANs, VNICs or
whatever.)
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r such protocols.
Don't forget that with security, simple is usually better. Complex
answers tend to be the ones that are hard to configure properly and thus
are often done wrong.
But good luck.
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ances, the zone itself
must set up the routes it needs. With shared IP instances, all routing
is done in the global zone alone.
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etworking-discuss instead of zones-discuss, since
this is a networking question. Or maybe one of the S10 groups, like
BigAdmin.)
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global zones will have networking that's completely independent of
the global zone.
You can't "shut down" the global zone, but you certainly can configure
it so that it doesn't have any available networking interfaces.
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e only question is whether this product has kernel modules. If it
does, then you can't load 32-bit kernel modules into a 64-bit kernel
(for much the same reason that you can't use 32-bit libraries with a
64-bit program).
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my only option to add a third NIC to the machine and have
> local traffic go through it? It would work but it's not pretty.
What OpenSolaris version are you running? Is it the latest available?
Have you tried using a vnic in a non-global zone with an exclusive IP
stack instance?
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use all of memory
by default" scheme fairly problematic, as it would just intermittently
shoot down large processes.
Or just more fundamentally: needing to tune this at all seems a bit like
a bug to me.
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ng suspicious there.
Since Fusion is Oracle and OpenSolaris and ZFS are Oracle, maybe there's
another possibility. This could be one of those cases where that
hoped-for "synergy" might kick in. ;-}
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said that he was having trouble with a large application (Oracle Fusion)
running on a system using ZFS. Does Fusion really need contiguous
kernel memory (why?) or is there something else going on here?
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his at all? Isn't the ZFS ARC supposed to release memory when the
system is under pressure? Is that mechanism not working well in some
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swer is to fetch the
cred_t attached to the dblk_t, and get the zoneid from the cred_t.
It's not unusual at all for interrupts and taskqs to do work on behalf
of many different zones, and for them to need to track this information
separately.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> James Carlson wrote:
>
>>> Just try to describe _why_ you believe that you need Nero.
>> Assuming that his original problem is that mkisofs and cdrecord are just
>> too hard to use -- in comparison to the GUI-based features on other
>
y
;-}), but providing good UIs goes a long way to making users productive
without forcing them to become grad students in each technical area.
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END* of
the system paths -- that is, if you have some add-on libraries that do
not conflict with any system library -- and is roughly equivalent to and
slightly better then (4), but it's bad news if you try to override.
You could create a custom LD_CONFIG file, but then you're essential
Dr Lou wrote:
> - However, with this crle configuration:
> # crle -c /var/ld/ld.config -l /usr/local/lib:/lib:/usr/lib
> # zonecfg -z zone-pg84 export segfaults:
> Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
What does "ldd /usr/sbin/zonecfg" say?
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d for a BSD-Jails-like
environment, where you're consolidating numerous servers that were
previously configured side-by-side on a single network. Shared doesn't
work as well when the zones are mutually hostile.
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roject in terms of
kernel handling; it's not a layer in any sense), but there's a price to
be paid in feature set for that lightness.
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key logic usually doesn't misbehave like that, but not
all logic is robust ...)
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Mike Gerdts wrote:
> This unsupported feature is supported with the use of Sun Ops Center
> 2.5 when a zone is put on a "NAS Storage Library".
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ust be specified by a full path.
Could it be that "discouraged" and "experimental" mean "not tested as
thoroughly as you might like, and certainly not a good idea in any sort
of production environment?"
It sounds like a bug, sure, but the fix might be to remove the o
distinct from the ones
that the non-global zones must reach, then you should be able to
come up with a set of routes that will direct traffic appropriately
based on remote address. (A routing protocol may help.)
- Modify your default routers so that they know how to de
integers would be easier to encode and work with. The rest of the team,
though, assumed differently: that if there was any coordination between
machines, it would be on the basis of the assigned zone name, and that
strings were just as easy to use.
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Darren Reed wrote:
> On 18/09/09 10:44 AM, James Carlson wrote:
>> Darren Reed wrote:
>>> As an unsigned integer for all values, except -1, or as a signed integer?
>>>
>>
>> I still think it's properly "neither." Users can't reasonab
Darren Reed wrote:
> James Carlson wrote:
>> What kind of confusion are you expecting?
>>
>
> If it is an opaque type, then how does it get printed?
You have to use one of the look-up functions to convert it to a string
for printing. Zones are named, not numbered, even
#x27;t seem to come into it.
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statically configure those things if you want.
It sort of defeats the whole purpose of DHCP, but it's certainly
supported. See the dhcpagent(1M) man page for details.
> Which command I can use to know the dns settings in the global zone?
Get shell access in the global zone and exa
On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Anon Y Mous
wrote:
What I meant to say was that my OpenSolaris 2008.11 ipkg zones use /
home for user directories instead of /export/home.
I think it maybe has something to do with the automounter not being
set up automatically in the zones? I know in the globa
On Jun 29, 2009, at 2:31 PM, Glenn Faden wrote:
Steve Lawrence wrote:
I think each zone's automounter is smart enough to use lofs instead
of nfs for
mounts from a non-global to a global zone.
Please explain how this is possible. How can the automounter convert
an nfs specification of
On Jun 29, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Nicolas Dorfsman
wrote:
Le 29 juin 09 à 18:37, John Lorenzon a écrit :
The answer is no.
5065254 NFS/UFS deadlock when system is both NFS server and client
We don't use UFS. ;-)
That might not be enough to save you. The bug is a complicated (and
rare)
ded.
- The ABI exceptions entry isn't present ... but I have no idea what
state the ABI tools are actually in.
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are these libraries now some form of Public interface? Or will
IPS and Caiman have contracts, and is this just an exception to the
usual rules?
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Bernd Schemmer writes:
> >>hat exactly are you trying to do, and why won't it work on a regular
> >>64-bit kernel? Do you just want to limit the output of 'isainfo', or
> >>is there something more to it?
>
> Exactly -- ... The problem occured while I was creating a package for
> the new QEMU ve
want to limit the output of 'isainfo', or
is there something more to it?
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> caution against the use of -b not being supported. To me it seems more
> safe
> than relying on removing 4 fixed inherit-pkg-dirs which we might change
> in the
> future, although at this point certainly seems unlikely.
Agreed; it is in fact very unlikely to change. And "
ольга крыжановская writes:
> 2009/5/22 James Carlson :
> > If you're using S10 or SXCE, use "man zonecfg" and read the section on
> > "Whole Root Zones."
>
> The person who installed this machine did a rm -f -r /usr/share/man to
> conserve spac
If you're using OpenSolaris, I think you shouldn't be having that
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All you really
need are some writable directories inside the inherited mount points.
In those cases, you can set up lofs mounts to provide writable storage
to the zone.
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ackaged software (e.g., /usr/local can be made writable), but
removing just "some" of the things on the sparse list will likely run
you into upgrade trouble.
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MS UBUR
solarg writes:
> James Carlson wrote:
>
> > At a guess, the difference between these two machines is that
> > 'catalogue4' was likely created as a sparse-root zone, while
> > 'catalogue2' was created as a whole-root zone. The clones of that
> &
@catalogue2_snap
> rpool/zones/catalogue2/ROOT/z...@test_drupal_snap358M 4.75G -
> rpool/zones/catalogue2/ROOT/z...@catalogue3_snap85.2M 7.47G -
[...]
> rpool/zones/catalogue3/ROOT/zbe 149M 6.66G
> rpool/zones/catalogue2/ROOT/z.
ugh to know if a zone can be an NTP *server*. If anyone knows
> Sun's position on this, I will add it to the FAQ.
Being a server is easier than being a client. Clients have to adjust
the local system time, or they're not doing anything useful. A server
can broadcast the time withou
Nicolas Dorfsman writes:
> Le 19 févr. 09 à 14:02, James Carlson a écrit :
> > To expound on that a bit: non-global zones can have access to networks
> > that the global zone cannot talk to. In these cases, it's possible
> > for NTP to be configured to serve out time e
f it can't manage the
time on the system. The "disable pll" option in ntp.conf would be
used to set up such a server.
> +1
>
> It would be a great idea to have a easy solution to give these
> privileges to a zone.___
Se
bal zone's "/usr". That's the default, and you
have to do something at zone creation time (either using "-b" for the
zonecfg create subcommand or deleting the "/usr" IPD) to get
independent zones.
If you did remove that IPD in some way when you c
27;t,
and you're ok with configuring the IP parts of networking for those
non-global zones using zonecfg, then a shared stack instance may work.
The two are different operational models, and which you choose depends
on what you need.
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ough, because there's still only one kernel
image on the system.)
> Will creating zones in a Virtual Box image qualify as that ?
No.
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don't think a
new RFE was ever opened.
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he upgrade process. They're
intentionally undocumented, because they're meant to be an internal
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se they're different objects. "ifconfig" controls IP
interfaces, not NICs.
To move a NIC into a running exclusive-IP-stack zone, use dladm. This
should do the trick:
dladm set-linkprop -t -p zone=myzone bge0
Note that "-t" is required. To make a permanent cha
and
others keep /opt local and then use lofs to "copy" selected things
from the global zone.
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ons are the default 'sparse root' and -b 'whole root' ones;
I don't know of any mix-n-match testing with inherited product
directories, so you might be skating out onto a thinner section of the
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ust making sure.
Using the existing Clearview interfaces (integrated back in November
for build 103; see CR 4085089), you should be able to snoop lo0 just
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want. But that's not
> even in OpenSolaris yet.
Actually, Crossbow integrated into build 105 last Friday.
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obvious (it does to me), but it's up to marketing to determine what
those words actually mean, and I'm not in marketing.
Fortunately, I don't think the issue has any substantial impact on
opensolaris.org.
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update pkgs within
> the zone, whether the pkg varies by version number or by the patches
> applied to the pkg.
OK. The surprise to me is that it doesn't seem to care about minor
release. I guess that's "obvious" when the me
plementation view) is effectively upgrade the bits as though patches
were added due to the differing patch levels of the source archive and
the running machine.
I'm surprised that it might do something different.
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Jerry Jelinek writes:
> James Carlson wrote:
> > "Update on attach" just means "apply saved patches, if any are
> > needed," right?
>
> Not really. We see what pkgs are out of sync, either because of the
> pkg version of because of patches applied to t
Nicolas Williams writes:
> On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:37:48PM -0500, James Carlson wrote:
> > I suppose it'd be possible to look through the SMF 'privileges' for
> > the services that are still enabled, and then attempt to union those
> > into the zone privi
matter of
seeing the manifests in a hollow package and then reading the
manifests to determine what services they deliver, and disabling
those. Is that right ... ?)
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-d {path} - specifies a path to a tree of files as the source for the
> >> installation.
> >
> > Just for clarification: does that '-d {path}' option point to a system
> > root? Could I use "lumount" to mount up an inactive BE and t
e ones now
missing in Indiana), I don't think it's something that would need to
be discussed here, any more than any other entity offering to provide
commercial support on existing open source code.
(If what you might be expecting here is someone to take the code
"private"
of files as the source for the
> installation.
Just for clarification: does that '-d {path}' option point to a system
root? Could I use "lumount" to mount up an inactive BE and turn it
into a zone?
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do this, but now that
5005887 has shipped, we'd probably need to open a new RFE for it.
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ain
specific feature tests.
It'd be better to start with a clear set of requirements and work down
to an implementation, I think.
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ing automated tools without imposing a great burden
> on the tool developer.
That sounds like a bug that should be fixed.
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pkg to do your upgrades, then it's the OpenSolaris
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re any
log messages? What was the exact configuration used? (And have you
contacted Sun's support group?)
There are some known problems, such as CR 6632938, which makes a
pattern like "/dev/dsk/c2t1d0s*" not work, but getting to the root of
the problem will require details.
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at it's
always been a bit problematic. It wasn't the design center for the
original Kevlar/Zones project: all zones were expected to go on a
common set of subnets.
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easily see which global zone matches your
> local.
Yet another way it leaks through, at least on systems with shared IP
stacks, is in hardware addresses. Look at "netstat -np".
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#x27;re obviously quite right ... I don't know where I got the idea
that 'exclusive' didn't work here. Sorry about that. :-<
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s to watch out for?
It should work on any update that supports Etude. There've been
continuous updates to our networking support since S10 FCS, but using
VLANs (at least on some interfaces) was a feature in FCS.
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Ben Rockwood writes:
> James Carlson wrote:
> >> Let me know if you my explanation is not clear .
> >>
> >
> > The part that's unclear is why this is a problem. What are you doing
> > that depends on a logical interface name, and that needs to ke
.
The part that's unclear is why this is a problem. What are you doing
that depends on a logical interface name, and that needs to keep that
name static?
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don't think we know how many of these sorts of special dependencies
exist in ON. Except for the controlled environment of patches, we've
always assumed synchronous delivery of everything built in ON as part
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script will fail miserably when 'pkgadd' is pointed at
an alternate boot environment, or when invoked during a custom
install.
That's why I'm discouraging its use, and instead pointing folks to CR
6387333. There's a missing feature here, and trying to paint around
it ju
ocumented system library interfaces -- and not at the system call
level.)
What you're suggesting isn't supported and can't be supported.
Instead of that, I'd suggest using nawk for now, and adding a call
record to CR 6387333. useradd/groupadd should know how to deal with
g stacks.
(There are more systematic ways to search for the offender, including
locating the zone_t and finding out what it's blocked on, but looking
at the stacks is often effective and quick.)
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# zoneadm -z jcp-mail-zn-mn-colo1 halt
> ^C (after 10 minutes)
>
> Any clues to what is going on?
Is there any chance that it's stuck trying to shut down? I'd first
look for threads that appear to be stuck in mdb's "::threadlist -v"
output.
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and later on
> re-deploy 2 zones to physical boxes...
Ah, ok. For staging, that makes sense. It was the deployment part I
was looking at ... I couldn't see a reason why you'd want a permanent
configuration built that way.
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that no backport
is in progress, at least right now.
The way a backport often ends up happening is that a contract customer
for one of those older supported releases makes a formal request
through Sun's support group. That doesn't happen on opensolaris.org.
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(I guess).
I'd expect it to work fine, but be pointless. Why load-balance across
multiple instances in a single box?
In any event, using the 'vni' interface rather than 'lo' is likely to
get you better results for most applications. This is exactly the
sort of thin
n what problem we're solving. Is it just
that zlogin has a command line that behaves like rlogin (needing no
option to select "host"), and that zoneadm/zonecfg use an option to
specify the same thing?
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inary IP nodes, and need not know
that DSR is going on.
(Note that doing load balancing across multiple zones on the same
machine, while possible, might not make operational sense.)
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pporting the old syntax is a minimum requirement, which
(in addition to other problems) means you likely end up having have to
define what "zoneadm -z foo boot bar" actually means.
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then gets the ioctl and can decide to do
anything it wants with it. Sometimes, it sets a variable somewhere,
or perhaps modifies multiple variables. Other ndd ioctls cause other
functions to be called, locks to be taken, and other work done.
Unlike /etc/system, the possibilities are endless.
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Jim Nissen writes:
> Will Solaris 10 Zones, with exclusive IP, allow one to set NGZ TCP
> tunables, like tcp_conn_req_max_q?
Yes, every zone configured as exclusive has its own TCP/IP stack
instance.
Are you asking because you've encountered some problem with this?
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oup
for S10 issues (yes, I saw your email address) and (b) this stuff
works in current OpenSolaris.
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Alain Durand writes:
> Could you please elaborate a bit further ? I must admit I do not
> really understand what should be done.
Something like this:
# dladm create-vlan -l vfe0 -v 1
# zonecfg -z blue 'add net; set physical=vfe1000; end'
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Alain Durand writes:
> I built the driver with GLDv3 :
>
> # dladm show-link
> vfe0type: non-vlan mtu: 1500 device: vfe0
>
> What was your idea with a VLAN ?
You can create VLANs on that device and place them into exclusive
stack zones using zonecfg.
e physical ethernet interface, is that possible ?
Yes, if you can configure a VLAN on this interface using dladm. (I'm
guessing that 'vfe' isn't a GLDv3 driver, and thus you can't do that.)
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Ben Rockwood writes:
> I'm gonna bump this with hopes a developer will pick it up. I do not yet see
> a bug associated with this issue.
You're talking about CR 6684810, which was fixed back in snv_88.
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James Carlson writes:
> Steffen Weiberle writes:
> > BTW, this only works for default routes. Static ones don't work. at
> > least that is my/others' experience.
>
> That's not true. Default routes are not supposed to be special.
> They're just regul
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