already.
Mark
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 8:00 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 10/5/2012 12:24 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
Many thanks, Stephan !
I should have known
Yes, but it is also in its infancy. With Aczel's work not 30 years old, and
this admittedly weak analogy to consciousness only a few years old, which
Aczel does not seem to be following up on himself:
http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~petera/papers.html
My point is, this is very young, what's young is
Hi Stephen, Bruno, and Jason,
Do I understand correctly that comp requires a relative measure on the set
of all partial computable functions and that for Steven Both abstractions,
such as numbers and their truths, and physical worlds must emerge together
from a primitive ground which is neutral
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
The definition of beauty that I like is that
beauty is unity in diversity.
Hi Roger,
As I mentioned, I think its very hard/perhaps impossible to tie down like
that, even though I think I can
Hi Roger,
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Autopoesis is a useful definition for life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis
Autopoiesis (from Greek a?to- (auto-), meaning self, and p???s??
(poiesis), meaning creation, production) literally
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
Dear Cowboy,
One question. Was the general outline that I was trying to explain
make any sense to you? Without being obvious about it, I am trying to
finely parse the difference between the logic of temporal
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 10/31/2012 6:14 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
Dear Cowboy,
One question. Was the general outline that I was trying
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 05 Nov 2012, at 13:43, Roger Clough wrote:
Shades of Nietzsche ! Tell me it isn't so !
No, it is not so. No worry to have. I am glad we share some uneasiness
with Nietzche. I take it for a great poet, but a bad
else build such fortresses?
For these reason I'd suggest for you to not read him, especially not in
German. Right on with garbage he taught, would be the first thing he'd
admit and laugh.
PGC
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
unease, as
they appear framed to me here, are not warranted by anything I've read.
Cowboy
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 06 Nov 2012, at 17:45, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Hi Roger,
If you want to read him that trivially, go ahead. The constant
is
ideological concerning Nietzsche, never having understood the kind of
reasoning I am pointing towards.
Cowboy, Jamaican Lion Style :)
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
You're welcome to endorse Nietszche's attack on reason
, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
As I read it, the ?ermensch is the being that is aware of the limits of
Mensch ideology and values. Of course this can be hijacked to support
discrimination against groups, but only if you want to be dishonest. But he
emphasizes that abandoning the humanist
Hi Roger,
Harmony is also, as part of several music theory traditions, the management
of dissonance, without which you can't have harmony.
Did Leibniz treat dissonance specifically or suggest say, that well
placed dissonance leads to a more satisfying harmony of the piece as a
whole?
12-Tone
Hi Roger,
The definition of harmony you cite above is entertainment biased,
because: Virtually all music is dissonant as the vast majority of music
includes more complex fundamental frequency ratios than unison and octave:
anything more complex than 1:1, 2:1, 3:1 etc. is by strict definition
. We've shown its possible in our domain for hundreds of
years.
Quantum Cowboy :)
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
12 tone music can be refreshing for a while but I soon get bored.
On the other hand, Stravinksy and many others can
Hi Everybody,
At several points the discussions of the list led us to hypothesis of
arithmetic truth. Bruno mentioned once that the basis for this hypothesis
was quite strong, requiring studies in logic to grasp.
But as a non-logician, I have some trouble wrapping my brain around Gödel
and
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Hi Cowboy,
On 24 Nov 2012, at 19:52, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Hi Everybody,
At several points the discussions of the list led us to hypothesis of
arithmetic truth. Bruno mentioned once that the basis
Hi Roger,
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Leibniz expressed what was logically necessary, not
an opinion of God.
And this itself was an opinion of god and produced a striking revelation in
Leibniz: Contradiction. I have kicked my own monadology in
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Every new generation attacks what the previous generation holds dear.
Freud explained that in his theory of the Oedipal complex.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] rclo...@verizon.net]
12
Dear Roger and Stephen,
Cowboy epistemology on truth are underestimated. Much simpler than all this
heavy stuff.
From a fellow guitar cowboy that many will know:
When the sun came up this morning I took the time to watch it rise.
As its beauty struck the darkness from the skies.
I thought how
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 19 Dec 2012, at 17:01, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:49, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
I define good
Hi Roger,
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Pragmatism is does not provide truth in, say a Platonic or Aristotelian
sense.
It only provides truth as pragmatists define truth: namely that if A
causes B,
B is the truth
Hi Bruno,
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 29 Dec 2012, at 16:07, Roger Clough wrote:
The classic example
3p= thirdness= is when I react to the pain
Hmm.. this is the idea, except that with comp, this will be only
plural_1p. But no problem as,
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/29/2012 12:32 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
In french we say popularly that about taste and color we don't argue.
(Des goûts et des couleurs on ne discute pas).
That's because Francophones have no taste
Hi Everythingsters,
When things get a little fringe, I want the best bang for my buck (time
reading/listening in this case). Here Sheldrake only delivers when held in
check by McKenna and Abraham, even if not stunning.
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
You've obviously never watched one of Sheldrake's
lectures.
Watched, listened, and even read some things a few years back. I sincerely
tried to open my mind, but when I realized I was forcing
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 1/6/2013 4:56 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 1:33 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:49 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
The word must implies forcible persuasion.
Hi,
But the use
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:56 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:45 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 1/6/2013 4:56 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/6/2013 1:33 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 1
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
You're allowed to have that opinion, or any opinion.
We're different. I am a retired laboratory scientist and
a pragmatist to boot. So to me, data trumnps everything.
So I will believe
Hi Brent,
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:33 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/7/2013 5:09 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 2:56 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/6/2013 3:45 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:19
Hi Roger,
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone.
How is opinion not connected to data? Have you found a way of neatly
separating the information and data from opinion
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:27 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/10/2013 6:20 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I have never understood what it means to be atheist. Sometimes it appears
to mean existentialist not Christian god, another appearance is not
organized religion, which
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:41 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/10/2013 11:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:27 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/10/2013 6:20 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I have never understood what it means
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 11 Jan 2013, at 21:47, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/11/2013 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What are its tenets that you believe on faith?
That there is something different from me.
But you have evidence for that -
Hi Roger
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
I always let the market decide.
Please. It's peoples' behavior that determines market. And it has decided:
you can steal from the coming generations by allowing energy industry
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:38 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 1/14/2013 10:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Lobbying should be forbidden.
But it's just another name for petitioning your government. Lobbyists
provide a lot research and expertise to the legislative process, so I
, at 16:12, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Hello Everythinglisters,
First post here, and seems fun to get lost reading the discussions from
time to time, so here somebody contributing with a more musical tendency.
It's funny how this game keeps cropping up where people want to do stuff
like: 1
I do not want to suggest a definition, but have a question concerning comp
frame. When I improvise, often in Jazz or Rock context the free will
question becomes fuzzy in this way:
Sometimes you hit a point where all the patterns/formulas you've learned;
i.e. the kind of stuff you can play in your
On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 02 Aug 2012, at 21:34, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I do not want to suggest a definition, but have a question concerning comp
frame. When I improvise, often in Jazz or Rock context the free will
question becomes
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:31 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/6/2012 1:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree. In fact denying God is a way to impose some other God. I don't
think we can live more than one second without some belief in some God.
I disagree. We live very well just
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:59 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/8/2012 10:05 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 4:31 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/6/2012 1:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree. In fact denying God is a way to impose some
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:57 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 8/8/2012 2:31 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
So, according to you, we're always wrong to deny the existence of
anything because to do so brings it into existence. We can't even have a
clear conception
When this cowboy has to write a score, there are always the constraints of
what client/audience expect; even if they expect breaking a set of
conventions.
But the actual writing, the 1p experience of it, is out of my control. If I
am afforded conditions to be allowed to be open for surprise, this
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Roger rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
And any creative act comes out of the blue if it is truly creative (new).
Improved jazs would be a good example of that. I believe that
John Coltrane's solos came out of the Platonic world.
Roger , rclo...@verizon.net
Hi
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Aug 2012, at 14:46, Roger wrote:
But humans are not entirely governed from outside, they have their own
agendas.
We have a top level agenda: maximise self-satisfaction, and minimize
self-dissatisfaction. This
Hi Roger
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Roger rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy
1) I can accept your hedonism.
I do not, even though as musician it influences consciously or not. Leads
again to too many possible conceptions of selves to satisfy. The
computation
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 18 Aug 2012, at 17:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Aug 2012, at 14:46, Roger wrote:
But humans are not entirely governed from
for yours.
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Roger rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy and all
The logic of an Agenda is purposeful or goal-oriented, what Aristotle
called final causation. where an object is PULLED forward by a goal.
By what should be.
This is the opposite
Hi Bruno,
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 19 Aug 2012, at 21:14, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 18 Aug 2012, at 17:55, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Thu, Aug
I beg to differ:
Fiction and performance is where people lie to an audience/readership for
money, sometimes stumbling on something true. Sometimes even funny,
movingly, true.
Science is where people do the true stuff. Sometimes bullshitting people
for money.
Expertise and its derived authority
Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Finally we have the whole story and truth:
Direct link to PDF in question:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=4ved=0CDMQFjADurl=http%3A%2F%2Finfam.antville.org%2Ffiles%2Fpnas%2Fei=A7o8UNPENsil0AWCh4CAAgusg=AFQjCNEnTJj8p7H1m6w40c3PXKIOgjQgQA
Link
Research on this is ambiguous and ideologically freighted, but you put your
finger on the right spot with: though maybe not as much. Because given
all the toxic compounds from burning carbon based plant matter, the
question is why the smoking cannabis leads to lung cancer evidence is
much more of
, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Finally we have the whole story and truth:
Direct link to PDF in question:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=4ved=0CDMQFjADurl=http%3A%2F%2Finfam.antville.org%2Ffiles%2Fpnas%2Fei=A7o8UNPENsil0AWCh4CAAgusg=AFQjCNEnTJj8p7H1m6w40c3PXKIOgjQgQA
be controlled individually. I'm against
prohibition, but I'm also against saying you can use it with no danger.
Quentin
2012/8/29 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
People and science do not distinguish enough between smoking pure
cannabis or hemp and smoking both cannabis and tobacco
Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
Agreed. But abuse of anything... is simply abuse.
Wel yes... but abuse is easy with cannabis, if you smoke *everyday* it is
abuse.
And when you smoke everyday, you often smoke more than one... and that
condition *is not* rare among cannabis
Yes, but bashing nicotine is also easy. Everybody that surfs internet,
especially posting too much is nicotine freak ;)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=internet%20addiction%20chrna4
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Thanks for sharing.
What is left out sadly, is the technical aspect of how to open oneself to
that state, when one does not climb mountains or can afford space shuttle
flights (or even want a bit of variety?). A possible answer: techné of
ecstasy or how to escape from oneself/appearance and
It depends what standards for and quality of information you have on
something.
People shouldn't judge what they do not understand. Bruno you understand
what Krokodil entails, with solid information, so trying it is nonsense.
But I don't think most understand what Cannabis entails because of
we all benefit from the creative
attitudes of beatles, stones, hendrix, or pink floyd etc. once in awhile.
On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 02 Sep 2012, at 16:38, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
It depends what standards for and quality of information
I don't see sins, I merely prefer wrongs as in: not appropriate to
circumstance, on which there is never a final ruling. Stauffenberg tried to
murder Hitler; had he succeeded, would that be an example of wrong or
heroism or some mixed bag, yet again?
As a cowboy, I meet both liberal and
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:05 PM, benjayk benjamin.jaku...@googlemail.comwrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Sep 2012, at 12:39, benjayk wrote:
Our discussion is going nowhere. You don't see my points and assume
I want to
attack you (and thus are defensive and not open to my
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
OK. The bad is in arithmetic. To believe we can eliminate it would be like
believing we can eliminate the number 666 from N. We can suppress the room
13 and 17, even 666 in some hostels, but that is the best we can do.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 10:36:03 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
There are two ways of looking at a music signal.
I think it's a mistake to look at it that way. There is no such thing as a
music signal. There is no
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:41:33 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
I am not saying arithmetic = music; I have no idea about that, just that
the two can't do without each other.
I think
of music through the usual
list of consciousness altering practices, substances, and plants.
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thursday, September 20, 2012 9:46:16 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
I'm not so sure about there is nothing
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:25:48 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
Reflected eternal song(s) dressed in the illusion of time. As far as I
can see: proportions, relationships, ratios.
That's what I
On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, September 21, 2012 8:47:15 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:25:48 PM UTC-4
On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:01:14 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
Nothing would work except the ontological primitive that I use (sense).
Glad that works for you. Linguistically I am flexible
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:36 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Although it doesn't necessarily follow the digital transformation
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Ghibbsa,
Boy O boy. Reread my post to you. It was completely complementary, only to
be met not with appreciation but with snide remarks and accusations.
Anyway I officially withdraw it as it was obviously in error...
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:52 AM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2014 6:36:21 PM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2014 4:50:39 PM UTC, ghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 9:09:23 PM UTC, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Thu, Feb
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:35 PM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, February 2, 2014 6:36:24 PM UTC, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Bruno Marchal mar...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Although it doesn't necessarily follow the digital transformation
of consciousness is perfectly
Some members of the list have expressed fondness or interest for
cuttlefish, which is why I post this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgdVVU8tBTQ
The documentary is a bit sensational/over the top at times, but I'm not
bothered as I just care about the footage. They used to be prominent at
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:06 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 2/14/2014 1:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2014, at 20:56, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/13/2014 3:29 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 13 Feb 2014, at 12:07, Quentin Anciaux wrote:
2014-02-13 11:52 GMT+01:00 Bruno
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Feb 2014, at 23:17, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:08:07AM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Feb 2014, at 20:47, meekerdb wrote:
On 2/14/2014 7:12 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
I
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 Feb 2014, at 17:41, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Feb 2014, at 23:17, Russell Standish wrote:
snip
but IMHO
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 17 Feb 2014, at 19:49, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
what exactly is the question? Be specific and DON'T HIDE BEHIND
PRONOUNS WITH NO CLEAR REFERENT.
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:45 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 1:39 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Did the Helsinki Man see Washington and Moscow? Yes.
In the 3-1 view. Not in the 1-1 view.
In who's 1-1 view? You'll probably say in The
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote:
I came upon an interesting passage in Our Mathematical Universe,
starting on page 194, which I think members of this list might appreciate:
It gradually hit me that this illusion of randomness business really
wasn't
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
If it's all math, then where does math come from?
Strange to say, elementary maths just appears to be a fact. That is, it
is a fact that 1+1=2.
These
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 9:48:48 PM UTC-5, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:36 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, February 28, 2014 5:32:48 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote
Trans-Atlantic Free Trade Agreement comes to mind. It's seen as a silent,
gradual but finalizing invasion of Europe/US sovereignty by large corporate
interests, according to Le Monde as example. Harmonization of for
example environmental and health standards entail the imposition of the
lowest,
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 3 Mar 2014, at 8:53 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
What is it, Bruno, about 3 beats to the bar that precisely, irrefutably
describes to my mind a circle?
You tell me.
Bruno
Sure. I think it is
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:48 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Without listening to that (since I'm at work) I am under the impression
that Carmina Burana is, at the beginning at least, 4 beats to the bar,
not 3?
Maybe I missed the point. I am not musical (except that I like listening
to
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 4 Mar 2014, at 9:48 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
Without listening to that (since I'm at work) I am under the impression
that Carmina Burana is, at the beginning at least, 4 beats to the bar,
not 3?
Maybe I
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.auwrote:
Hi everyone,
Just want to let everyone know that the English translation of Buno
Marchal's The Amoeba's Secret is now available from Amazon's Kindle
store. See http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IRLEKPA
The Amoeba's
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:53 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/8/2014 3:41 PM, LizR wrote:
On 9 March 2014 08:50, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 3/8/2014 12:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The existence of the UD is a consequence of elementary axioms in
arithmetic
Nice to see you treat it this way.
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 09 Mar 2014, at 21:46, LizR wrote:
On 10 March 2014 02:15, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Russell,
Yes, but that is crazy because it assumes all theories are equally
Electric instruments just amplified what was already here.
Beethoven istm was first in rock, metal, punk etc. all the way to dubstep
department;crystallizing sound's relations with explosive power, defiance,
melancholy or magnificence.
Bach was more goth than punk, I'd guess, especially with the
, makeup... all still sported
or on cheap shirts. Live fast, die young, it better be loud, huge, and
powerful though. PGC
On 11 March 2014 12:26, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.comwrote:
Electric instruments just amplified what was already here.
Beethoven istm was first in rock
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:59 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.comwrote:
Hi PGC
yep. All art, like language, has an etymology.
The Pistols weren't special because they did anything 'new', but because
they did something that challenged the status quo of the time. When it
comes to
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:13 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.comwrote:
* and prefer my songs interesting and quirky and catchy and fun (or in
the case of the Smiths, the opposite of fun)(OK, except for Poker face
:-)*
Yeah I used to furrow my brow a lot and listen to thought
On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 10:11, Kim Jones wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 1:12 pm, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Information must be made evident through sensory participation, or it is
nothing at all.
Craig, you
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
On 15 Mar 2014, at 8:25 am, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
So one could play you some Ferneyhough, say Shadowtime, and you'd be
able to score it on first listen? I know nobody that has
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, March 14, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote:
On 14 Mar 2014, at 1:12 pm, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
Information must be made evident through sensory participation, or it is
nothing at
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Friday, March 14, 2014 5:11:56 AM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:05:45 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Maybe one day you will have the class to acknowledge that Bruno and comp
have helped you articulate or conceive of certain things
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
If there is nothing other than sensing, then why use all the pronouns and
nouns you do? There are no objects... so why would we need nouns
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 7:21 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:08:00 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:38:41 AM UTC-4, Platonist
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:26:46 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
At this point my impression is: with a bucket so personalized and leaky,
I can see how everything just goes in MSR, as long as Craig says
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