Re: [Gimp-user] Speeding up GIMP
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:02:30AM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:30:30AM +0200, Jeremy Nell wrote: What ways or tips will help speed up GIMP and maximise performance? Obviously, loads of RAM is a start, I guess. And a decent graphics card (for rendering), yes? What other tips or tricks does anyone have? brush outline can slow painting down even on fast computers. gimp-1.2 on my 486 painted much much faster than gimp-2.4 - gimp-2.6 on this dual processor giga-something ram thing. brush outlines are the culprit there. i was going to append this to tell how to turn off the brush outlines but instead, i am going to ask you to do something. can you tell me how long it takes you to determine how to turn off the brush outlines? it will be interesting to see what the gui experts man hours has gotten for us. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Speeding up GIMP
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 02:51:08PM +0200, M@thew Green wrote: I didn't even know you could turn off brush outlines. I took it as a mini-challenge to see if I could work it out. BTW, to create some context for my experience I have been using GIMP since 2003, and designing / architecting web sites since 1994. Here's what I found :) - I first went to the *brushes dialog* and looked all the options (refresh, delete, duplicate, etc). No luck there... - I tried right clicking on the *brushes tab* and all I got was a list of the other docked tabs (Brushes, patterns, Gradients, Fonts, etc). No luck there... - I then went to the *tools menu* and scanned through the options listed there. Nothing. - Then I went to the *Preferences dialog box* from the Edit menu. Scanning through the sections listed on the left, I first tried tool options, Nothing. - Then I went to *Google *and typed in *turn off gimp brush outlines*. The second result was the one I chose, a link to chapter 11 of the GIMP manual, *Pimp my GIMP*. After doing a text search on the page for *brush out*, I scrolled up to see what section of Gimp was being referred to and found that you can turn off brush outlines in the *Image Windows *section of the *Edit / Preferences *menu. If you look under *Mouse Pointers*, you will see an option allowing you to do this... Not the most intuitive approach, but I did learn something new about the GIMP, though :) i have personally lost touch with the meaning of the word intuitive so intuitive approach is even less without meaning. i suspect that the approach was the intuition and the gui is not so intuitive. familiarity comes by use. gimp-1.2 on a dual processor is impressive, btw. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Speeding up GIMP
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 01:01:33PM +0100, Szabolcs Hideg wrote: If the generated brush outline is too complex, turning it off for that brush only, or somehow simplify more complex brush outlines would be a better solution than disabling it altogether in the program settings. I have created deliberately a brush, which outline slows down Gimp when drawing. Is it OK to attach it (below 100 Kbytes)? this list has historically not been a place where resources are transfered. the gimp-2.7 that i am using (it calls itself the master branch) brings with it some brushes whose size and complexity clearly slow painting down, so making a brush to show this has actually already been accomplished. thank you anyways, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Speeding up GIMP
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:23:51PM +0200, Jeremy Nell wrote: Simple comparison: An A4 page, 300DPI, open in both applications.nbsp; Grab a paint brush and and increase its size considerably.nbsp; Paint across the canvas and watch how much GIMP lags; the rendering of the strokes trails the brush, while in Photoshop, it's almost immediate.br br This means that system resources play a role, but so does the actual rendering engine inside GIMP.nbsp; For web design, you don't notice this, but for DTP, you certainly do.br br Apparently, though, this won't change for another few releases.nbsp; do you run Photoshop on Windows or on Ubuntu? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Speeding up GIMP
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:19:01PM +0200, M@thew Green wrote: Let's not argue semantics here - you know what I mean :) There should be a degree of the obvious when interacting with an interface. In other words, it should, as far as possible, be obvious as what to click on, in order to facilitate some action. This is far from the case here. when mac users started to have an input on things, the order of the buttons changed. [OK][NO] -- the ones that always get used (whatever they are now). it took a very long time for me to change. now, i have gimp-1.2 again and changing back is no big deal. i don't think that there is such a thing as intuition, it is what you are used to or it is not what you are used to. it is mostly interesting how so many years of gui research and not much came out of it. not really. it should be interesting to see how long the linux corps support this, redhat, fedora, ubuntu and debian. it seems that only the threat of Apple being sold to Micro$oft makes the linux voting blocks respond. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] locked up file selection screen
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 05:12:22PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:58:27 -0800 Carol Spears ca...@gimp.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 04:48:16PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: I am running GIMP 2.6.10 under Ubuntu Maverick...and lately have been having an intermittent problem with the file selector. It pops up seemingly locked-up so I can't change directories or disks, matter of fact can't do anything but close it. Anybody experienced anything like this? does this happen with the file selector from Image/File/Open or from the file selectors that are part of plugin dialogs? The image/File/Open. I can still drag an image in from Nautilus when it happens. much more attention perhaps is being spent on drag-and-drop and working between applications than actual functionality. this more than likely is not a problem of GIMP's but of gtk+. http://www.gimpedimenta.org/resources/fu/gimp-file-load.shtml is perhaps not pertainent to this discussion, but dragging and dropping from gimp-1.2 was some of the worst few seconds that i ever had with that version. that being said, this new file selector is kind of stupid and perhaps trying to do too much: http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=165139 perhaps it is unfair to have a text file with the filename of Desktop -- i am on linux, however and i have that there and for whatever reason want that file to be there. so, i am after all of this, suggesting that the fileselector is confused while trying to make too many operating systems happy. also, rendering a widget which is 900+x800+ pixels even without file type expanded is not what i would have expected given what i was told back in the early 2000's to be a goal of the reasons to rewrite it. i am curious to know if there will be a solution for this -- perhaps not for gtk2. i will say this about the widgets -- gimp-2.0 uses gtk+-2.2n with a more than reasonable amount of success 6 or 7 years later carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Grey Mask for Lenticular Images
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 02:51:17PM -0700, Jerry Dunn wrote: The Help File tells how to do this in PhotoShop in three steps: 1) Load an image 2) Split the Red, Green and Blue Channels 3) Save the Green channel as a grey mask. Use Auto Contrast. in gimp-2.2 use the plug-in found at Image/Layers/Color/Decompose it has a default setting to RGB so you can run the plug-in without changing anything in the dialog. a new image grayscale image will appear with three layers. with the original image in focus, right click on Dialogs/Layers and duplicate the original layer (or find the way to add the alpha channel to the original). right click again on Dialogs/Layers and add a mask to the duplicated layer. depending on which version of gimp you are using, there was a couple of releases where copying from a grayscale image into an rgb image would make gimp crash, so i am usually careful to change the decompose output to rgb before copying with the decompose image in focus, select the green layer in Dialogs/Layers and Edit/Copy. then with the original image in focus, Edit/Paste. Touch the anchor button on the lower portion of Dialogs/Layers and the floating layer from the paste should adhere itself to the layer mask. you can run some plug-ins on a layer mask, Auto Contrast is no exception. i will let you find that filter on your own. the layers dialog will indicate which component of the layer is active by changing the color around the thumbnail. this way, you can choose whether the plug-ins work on the image or on the layer. when a layer is added, the default is that the layer is in focus, so you can safely avoided changing it for this task. thank you for asking this question. i was just playing with these 'layer effects' and i really hadn't found too much that was as promising as this one to be useful: http://carol.gimp.org/GIMP/layer-effects/ i suspect that some of this email will appear there as well. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] multi-line text control
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 02:38:32PM -0700, Mark Harris wrote: I'm using a windows version of Gimp, 2.2.1.3. I notice I don't have the capability for multiline text, which I believe is provided by the gdyntext plug in. I've been unable to find a windows version of this plug in, and cannot build it from source using MS C++. Would anyone know where to turn for this? wow, i haven't heard anyone mention gdynatext in a really long while. i would be curious what the error message is if you tried to build this as you have described here. i think that the new texttool accepts an enter to create individual lines with. there are also some buttons that allow you align the text horizontally. more current is the freetype plug-in. but the way gimp developers use the word 'current' -- if taken like the velocity of a stream, many of the developers have confused a lake with a stream. http://freetype.gimp.org carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:32:07AM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote: OK, is there a place I can get more information on this? Google showed up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for Debian or not in English (which I prefer). Can I just download the package from the Debian site and install it in FC5? I've never done that before. it takes a little time to get used to working with your distribution. as a debian user, i often need to get help from people who are making the debs or people who have been using it for a while. i attempted to help you understand what to look for. i deleted everything below your message to this list since you were not obviously responding directly to anything that was there. could you help me to help you? paste your original question into an email and then paste my original response to your question right below that (making the email appear more like a conversation). occasionally, when writing email to friends and family, i manually make fake line breaks and add a '' so that they can read it more easily. then below this, suggest what i could have said better that would have helped you to understand your distribution better? http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html List Etiquette -- the suggestions there for email formation, while not exactly the direction that Web 2.0 seems to be going, they do make corresponding via email much easier. thanks, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:39:46AM +0100, Alan Horkan wrote: As I said before offering to accept patches which made it possible to rebrand the gimp in a clean maintainable way without the need to fork could bring this dicussion to screeching halt until someone shows some code. Isn't that the Free Software way? Look how Ubuntu has different versions which all work together promoting Ubuntu without suggesting those who have different needs should fork the project. can you expand on this please? three different names for Ubuntu or what? please also explain the reason that you target GIMP and not some of the other perhaps better funded names of products that are as or more offensive than this one here? thanks for your continued effort to do this important thing... carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc
On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:11:43PM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote: I just installed FC5, which comes with Gimp, but there is no gimpui.pc file. Gutenprint looks for it before it makes the print plugin for Gimp, which is what I am after. So do I need to find this file somewhere and put it in my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or is there some other way to get Gutenprint to make that plugin? probably you need to install libgimp-dev or whatever it is called on FC5. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 06:54:48AM -0600, Roland Hordos wrote: While all other credible opensource projects are gaining ground in a professional IT setting, the GIMP is being held back because of the instant derogatory impact of the name. If someone who can champion this task reads this, please humble yourself for the sake of this amazing software that some of us are embarrassed to promote, or simply won't until the name is changed. then stop. promote actually spending the money to purchase other applications for their well-namedness. that being said, i chuckle when i hear the word 'Kleenex'. this chuckle that i get does not restrict me from using this product as a 'facial tissue'. being limited by how much money i have available does though. quite possibly the first mention of the word gimp in a media situation is in this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boys_Town_%281938_film%29 the movie was about prejudice and financially challenged people. the word is used in this movie in not such a derogatory way because the person it was being used to describe was such a functional and well rounded person. it is interesting how so much of our fictional stories are about how bad people work and little howtos about how to disable them. the software known as GIMP was started by a spencer as well. what is interesting to me is that the company who hired him also is hosting a searchable archive of newsgroup stuff. some of the archived news has changed its message in these years i have been involved. the news piece i read was about how the software had been originally written because such software was not available to the writers -- unless they wanted to steal. this archived news has changed. the name of the company hosting this archives makes me think of what a baby says when it is happy and trying to speak. perhaps we should start there and ask this company to change its name because it is such a humiliating message to its users? any guesses the reason that the original message changed from 'i don't want to steal so i wrote this software myself' to saying nothing? the company reports financial health and seems to be in the position to make positive change in the world. could it be that money is only possessed by perverts? this also seems to be the message of this thread that followed this very stupid and terribly predictable thread. perhaps the original news item i read was wrong. perhaps the one i read now is the correct one. but what could possibly be the reason for it to have changed? can anyone provide evidence that the people who have the money and connections to run this world are not perverts? my fragile little psyche would really like an example of how men are not animals who only react to the very absolutely worst of despicable sexual innuendo. and lets give mr. tarantino the credit he deserves. a scholar of movie fiction and culture -- i am going to suggest that this movie was a little howto. howto reach into your own mind and the way you are in the world and how your perceptions are. reach into your life and find that prejudiced and uncultured 'yahoo' who has put the best part of himself into a box in his own mind and mistreats it. it is perhaps a bigger statment about mans fear of his own sexuality. like they did in this movie, find a tough guy in your own mind and use this tough guy to kill that part of you which has imprisoned yourself and kill that part of you that has been so abused by the expectations of others. be bigger than your own box. or make your own maillist. respectfully yours, carol further reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo_(literature) for help with the sound: find an infant, make it happy and listen gimp:look within ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] adjustment layer
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:43PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selon Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for your cool answer Simon...mine to Carol was almost sarcastic. sorry for your misunderstanding. this is what i would say to a friend. an example would be a situation where they had purchased a new car with air conditioning. Carol, should i stop driving this car that i bought and instead drive your car. Does it have air conditioning? Friend, no. My car doesn't have air conditioning. You should keep driving the car that you purchased. to suggest to the person asking this question that it is worth the money saved to not bother with layer effects is me giving this opinion of mine as a fact. this is rude to me. if the Photoshop that will be used is a stolen copy -- then yes, it was very very sarcastic. thank you for your concern, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] adjustment layer
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 08:50:12PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very clear. Thanks for a so clear and energizing answer Simon ! It's full of good things even if you warn us about the time it can take. Topic almost closed for me... Sincerely. What happens *after* Gimp 2.4 has been released will go more along the lines you mention. We'll have great changes in the infrastructure (see pippins link to GEGL) which makes things like adjustment layers or even direct effects possible. However, it will be quite some time until this 2.5 development series results in the next stable 2.6 or even 3.0. i would like to make this one request. that is that the ettiquette that is described on www.gimp.org about how mail to this list is formatted be at least attempted: http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html i am very sorry that the page has been formated in a way that you have to scroll the page to read the ettiquette which has been suggested there. it has been my experience that even an honest attempt to not top-post emails to this list will be appreciated. i understand that everyone has different expectations of emails and such and i equally appreciate the time that is spent by you to at least consider this. thanks, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Time Lapse
On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:25:31AM +0530, Krishna Kumar wrote: Has anyone tried to stitch time-lapsed photos using gimp? I am planning such a project and wondering how if gimp can animate a set photos into a .mov or .avi the gimp animation plug-in (GAP) can do this. if you can get it installed, you should be able to make it work. the default setting for the master encoder (to save in video format) is avi, but the avi i made with the default was not viewable on windows. i am not certain what you mean by 'stitch time-lapsed photos' though. using GAP was a challenge for me. hof wrote a tutorial that helped to get me started. it is here: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/animation/gap/move_path/ carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP newbie can't blur
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 04:04:49PM +0300, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote: I'm using Gimp in Windows, and I'm (very) newbie. I have an image and I wanted to Blur/Sharpen it, but whenever I load it and I select the region or the entire image, when I go to Filters/Blur, all the filters are not activated / frozen gray menus. Please can someone help me how should I do it ? just a guess, but the image is probably indexed. Image/Mode/RGB should enable all of the blur/sharpen plugins. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3.11 work with GTK+ 2.6?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:31:36PM -0400, Darren Govoni wrote: Hi, Apparently my GAIM does not work with GTK+ 2.8 when I upgraded to it for gimp 2.3.11. Any chance Gimp 2.3.11 will work with GTK+ 2.6? the last i knew, they were anxious to begin to depend on GTK+ 2.12 carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] drop shadow text
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 02:00:11PM -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: I have on my desk The Basics tutorial By JTL dated 2002. Is there a newer and easier way to create three dimensional text with a drop shadow? there was at one time a script-fu that seemed to be based solely on the tutorial. i remember it because it made the shadows too dark for my tastes and the transparency percentage was hardcoded into the script. i cannot remember the name of the script and i do not know if GIMP still contains this. it would be easy enough to write though. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Font help
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 01:51:58PM -0400, Owen Berry wrote: I'm using The Gimp to try to recreate some images containing only text for a web site that I maintain for my company. The site was originally created by a web design company using Dreamweaver and some other tools. Unfortunately all I could get out of them regarding the fonts used in the images is that they used Univers Condensed (47,57,67) fonts from Adobe. I've purchased the fonts, and have managed to recreate some of the images to a point that's visually acceptable. Now I'm stuck on a particular image. The problem is that the look of the font within The Gimp is similar but not the same as what is in the original image. The main problem is that the lower case letters are about half the size of the upper case letters, whereas in the original image they are about 2 thirds of the upper case letters. I've played around with turning hinting on and off, and forcing the auto-hinter, but not much luck, as expected. I thought a font was a font was a font. Well, as long as you're working with the same font. Am I not right? Is it possible that the font is being rendered differently on my system compared to the original designers'? unfortunately, this is not the case. many applications will stretch and make into italic fonts that were not designed that way. i spent sometime considering this, if i were a font artist. i determined that i would probably not like this after i had spent so much time making a font. so this was always one of the things i liked about the way that GIMP managed fonts. there is so much respect for the font artist. i hear that now fonts are considered 'software' and not art officially. not to me though. so the official terminology/definition disagrees with mine. if what i heard is accurate. Any suggestions on what I could do? I need to be able to recreate these images so that I can provide a translation of the site. the gimp freetype plug-in can probably do this. it still will take a little determination on your part, however. http://freetype.gimp.org and if you make the graphics this way, understand that you will be recreating the same problem for your successor as you are having now, maybe. the adobe software, naturally, will be able to exchange the information about the font mangling from application to application. it is font mangling, however. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about Gimp 2.3.10 and auto level adjustment
On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 04:57:26PM -0700, Tom Williams wrote: Hi! I took a photo using a Canon PowerShot A75 while driving at approx 65 mph. The shot came out ok and I didn't get into an accident. :) very fun when there are no injuries or damage to vehicles :) Anywho, when I do an auto levels adjustment on the photo, the result looks quite a bit different and not as good as the original. I'm wondering if the result is actually correct or not. i do not know what the auto portion does for this tool. i assume it does something like determining the lightest color and it turns that to white and similar with the darkest color and black. i assume this because that is how the little eye dropper thingies work with the levels dialog. Here is the original image: http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gimp/bay-bridge1.jpg Here is the image after the auto level adjustment is performed: http://www.bay-online-media.com/tom/gimp/bay-bridge1b.jpg i actually enjoy playing with the levels tool and photographs, so i endulged myself: http://carol.gimp.org/files/bay-bridge1-levels.jpg The original image was scaled to 1024x768 resolution at 72 dpi. The original photo was taken at 72 dpi. Is the resultant image correct? If so, why does it not look as good as the original? if you look at the different channels in the levels dialog, you can see what the Auto button did. it consistently moves the light side to where the color histogram starts for all three of the color channels. and it seems that the gray (center) triangle stays in the middle of the other two triangles. i have no idea if this works for a majority of photographs or not. i used the tool just on the Values Channel (which is not a real channel) and i like mine better than your original and also the auto adjusted image. to me, the only thing that was wrong with your photograph was that 'all over gray' haze that scanned photo prints would really get and digital photographs still seem to get somewhat. i honestly think that it is almost impossible to make a tool that will automatically fix the colors of every photograph and every photograph will look better. series of the same photograph (with the same subject and lighting -- as you might find in a GAP frame stack) can use the same levels settings. but that is a different situation than a one tool does all, like the Auto button attempts. also, there are some people who have the opinion that crisp bright colors are better. they might like what the auto levels did to the photograph. i usually don't like the auto button results. i am also not very good at working on the levels of the individual color channels. i think the best 'hack' in the levels dialog is that fake channel called Value. you can, without an understanding of colors or images at all, move those triangles until you get something that you like. usually, moving the left side and the right side triangles to where the color starts (in this particular image, only the right side needs to be adjusted) and then the center one just alittle bit to manage the contrast (and the direction it gets moved depends on how much you moved the other two) and the photograph looks better without looking different. if photographs were like children, the auto button on the levels dialog would be like trying to provide a snack for 30 to 100 children. depending on the snack, you might get 30 to 100 children that are very unhappy. well, i don't know if that is a good analogy for making a plug-in like this to work successfully all the time, but it is not that far off. i didn't answer your question, did i? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Giant Art Tutorials Link List
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 02:44:00PM +0200, J?rgen Hubert wrote: In the last few weeks, I've collected a huge number of online art tutorial links. And now I've finally found a wiki where I could dump all those links - a gaming wiki, of all things. The tutorials are mostly biased to the tools I am using - a Wacom tablet and GIMP - but also cover other subjects, and I think there will be something of interest to most people interested in digital art. So if you want to see all those tutorials, go to this page and view the appropriate sub-pages: http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/RESOURCES:_Art And if you know of any new tutorials - especially ones covering topics not found on the lists - please, by all means, add them to it. i am curious the reason you did not consider GIMPs wiki? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems building with printing and missing GimpFu in stable cvs?
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:47:58PM +0200, Rikard Johnels wrote: gimp compiles fine, and installs nicely. But as i try to run the centerguide.py script i get a error stating module gimpfu is missing. Where can i find the ginpfu stuff? I tried googling but to no avail. I dont understand how to get and install it. Let alone find WHAT to get... pygimp is in the gimp source. ./autogen.sh --help should tell you how to enable it to be built (if it has been disabled) i am pretty sure that configure leaves a log what it saw and did -- i can't remember the name of that file so when i need to look at what is happening: ./autogen.shconfigure.spew then i read configure.spew and it is usually pretty clear in there what is missing and why. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Postcards with gimp
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 11:00:39AM -0700, Tanveer Singh wrote: Long Long time ago, tourists used to send postcards to their loved ones containing a nice image from the place. Now I have a good digital image I want to make a email postcard sorta thing to send. Any tutorials and tips for that? there is GUMP. i have no idea how it works though. ImageFile/Mail Image good luck with that one. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Errors compiling gimp-perl.
On Mon, Jul 17, 2006 at 08:22:56PM +0200, Rikard Johnels wrote: Trying to compile gimp-perl. But it fails with: /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/ExtUtils/xsubpp -typemap /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.7/ExtUtils/typemap -typemap /home/rikjoh/Build/gimp-perl/typemap Lib.xs Lib.xsc mv Lib.xsc Lib.c Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 1993 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2005 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2017 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2030 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2035 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2045 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2055 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2065 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2075 Error: 'pdl *' not in typemap in Lib.xs, line 2117 make[1]: *** [Lib.c] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/rikjoh/Build/gimp-perl/Gimp' make: *** [subdirs] Error 2 did you have the pdl installed when you configured it the first time and you don't have it installed now? i didn't miss much when i got rid of the pdl myself. i got rid of that when i got rid of the fortran compiler. there are i think only two plug-ins left that need pdl. one is the perl red eye script. the other was interesting (a three dimensional image of the color information or something like that) but i never knew how to use it, so i don't miss it. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about scripting
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 08:43:35AM -0500, Kent Tenney wrote: A good start in this direction would be if I could automatically save curves and levels files when applying these edits. I could then script associating the color transforms with the image. Questions: Is it possible to script this capability? (automatically saving the curves and levels files, under names which indicates which image they are associated with) levels and curves settings can be saved via the gui. i always assumed you could pick those saved values up from a script and use them. it seems like this would only be useful if you were doing a batch conversion and were really confident with using the same adjustment to all of the images. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Website idea and comments on Gimp vrs photoshop
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 12:18:35PM -0400, Joey Marshall wrote: On 6/24/06, Alan Horkan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It doesn't have to be *versus*, both can be useful for different things. no, I'm not arguing one better than the other... that actually could be funny though. actually i have seen so many web sites and opinions tauting photoshops superiority that i think it is about time for gimp to make such a web site. it could be a two sided tutorial. photoshop on the left, gimp on the right. show how easy it is to do things with photoshop and how difficult it is to do with gimp. maybe we could even work out a deal with amazon where we get some of the proceeds for selling photoshop. we could actually make money keeping them alive. There are two main differences that stood out to me. The first is the amount of affects and tools available. hmm, maybe someone should ask Sven Neumann and/or Mitch Natterer to refresh our memories about the differences between what is considered a tool and what is considered a plug-in. The second is the way the filters are applied. I like how photoshop does it better. Instead of applying to the image itself... it acts more like a filter. You apply it to the layer. There is a request for these kinds of live layer filters in bugzilla. (Photoshop has normal filters too.) Now for my suggestion on the website. I think it would be very helpful for have a section that would be like a cross between an FAQ and a help desk. It might be appropriate to use the Wiki for that kind of information but it depends what you have in mind and the developers want. I'm a web developer. And could quickly create a website to do it. :) I just wouldn't want to if noone would be interested in something like it. do not mention the acronym php. Basically, people could post their questions on how to get a desired effect on an image. People use the lists for this kind of thing, also places like Deviant Art and the GUG http://gug.sunsite.dk/ There are two problems with the these three methods that I can see. The number 1 reason is that a lot of people won't use them. A lot of people don't even know what mailing lists are. Or won't want to register on a forum just to ask a question. The next big reason I don't think those methods are good enough, is that not everyone will find them... I sure didn't with google. good enough is a some what relative phrase. i think it would be more fun and interesting to write tutorials about how gimp sucks compared to photoshop and sell copies of photoshop there. if google doesn't work to find things, whose fault is it? if you search for gimp with googles moderately safe search filter, you will find both of those things. Also, the same things get asked over and over. The idea behind an FAQ is to answer those questions asked over and over again once and for all... so to speak. if we did something completely interesting like selling photoshop and write tutorials demonstrating photoshops superiority; we would not have to figure out how to get google or those other sites to work the way you expect. I think it should also be located (or linked to) on the official gimp website. People will find it a lot faster that way. the site needs a redesign. i make all web sites look like gtk or gimp widgets lately. i don't know if that is such a good thing for the main page at www.gimp.org. the apparatus for remaking the web site is almost there. the site now needs an html and css redesign. i am actually frightened to ask drc to do this since i kicked him in Norway. any thoughts? You may see things differently than that, and that's ok. We all are entitled to our own opinions :) this is where gimp gets stuck. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Website idea and comments on Gimp vrs photoshop
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 01:13:56PM -0400, Joey Marshall wrote: do not mention the acronym php. Is 'py' better? :) I use django and turbogears. They make web development a lot easier. I came from php about 7 or 8 months ago... never to return. if py means python, it seems to be easier to get that installed on gimps computer. But PS isn't better than GIMP... that's the problem! lol the people who disagree with you will go away though, if we write the tutorials that way. i am actually frightened to ask drc to do this since i kicked him in Norway. any thoughts? not everyone uses the default gtk theme... I personally think it looks ugly (the one thing I don't like about gimp under KDE) well, the web site is not going to be like kde vs gtk. is it now? i didn't mean to kick him. i was making a joke actually. the theme that is being used on all of the gimp web sites right now is fine. is it old though. or is it? at what point did we start to speak about the toolkit icons? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] guys, carol's joking
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 09:33:55PM +0200, michael beijer wrote: perhaps read a little more inbetween her lines define joke as you are using it here. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Website idea and comments on Gimp vrs photoshop
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 09:39:57PM -0400, Joey Marshall wrote: I don't know if this would be better going to a different list... so sorry if this is going to the wrong place! eh, the list isn't being used as often as it used to be and this is more like the gimp-user list of the old days that i used to enjoy so much. out of appreciation, for the sweetness of this letter and for the memory of how wonderful it used to be, i am actually glad to respond. And the Gimp vrs photoshop means that I will be comparing two of the features of the two... not to argue one better than the other. the success of gimp has been to not compete with Photoshop. when we fail is probably when there is a lot of people pasting things they read or making everyone feel bad because software(TM) doesn't work as well as software(GPL). if you look at how business is run, GIMP doesn't have any to run. on the otherhand, there is a group of people whose life and happiness depend on selling software. that business has actually in the time i have been involved with GIMP congealed into one big group macromedia, adobe and a few others are now all the same. poor gimp has gotten an aqua theme from this merger. dunno how i feel about that. sometimes, i clear my mind of the noise by considering that it is out of politeness that gimp waits for photoshop to get safely into first place again. like, how big is there web design group and what is the smallest computer they use? when you answer questions like this and consider the people who make gimp, you kinda have to laugh. so sure, photoshop does a lot that GIMP doesn't. some of those things might actually be useful Anyway, I have been a gimp user for quite a while, And I have learned how to harness a lot of the power underneath it's features. i suggest that you would be able to work with any pixel manipulating application and probably end up chuckling at the different words they use or some of the we think you are probably retarded gui decisions they make. after working with me and linux and then upgrading to windows XP, my friend saw that the windows machine that made that thing were comparing her to a teletubbie with that default desktop image. i remember when i compared gimp-1.2 to photoshop5, i was extremely disappointed with how much photoshop really could not do compared to gimp. the availability of the canned effects only made me chuckle. BUT, that takes a lot of time! And I'm sure there are a lot of things I don't know how to do (as far as effects go). I was reading on a forum where this guy was posting that his son is an all out photoshop user, and would often challenge him to do something in gimp that he did in photoshop. He said that he was always able to do it. I know I can't... as well as a lot of other people (especially those just learning it). personally, i haven't had a human being challenge me, but i have managed to do any tutorial i found. there might be one exception to this -- i cannot remember it specifically. i got bored with a magazine i purchased to try to make the tutorials with. I had tried out photoshop to see what it was like. And was able to get the hang of it within a few hours because of it's similarities to the gimp (Note: I use Gimp for web development... which is what I was messing around with photoshop with. I did not explore the photo editing of photoshop). some of their photo effects work but look silly. i saw one where the time of day was changed by a lighting plug-in. occasionally, when i see this used on television, i chuckle. There are two main differences that stood out to me. The first is the amount of affects and tools available. Photoshop had far more than the gimp. It's menus are allot longer. I don't like that. Gimp's tools are more flexible. Like I can make a glow by using a white scriptfu shadow with a 0 offset (this concerns my idea for the website). the developers are trying to keep the menus shorter. i realized when i tried to do something with them a while back that i am too much of a menu nester. logic does not always make the best gui this way. The second is the way the filters are applied. I like how photoshop does it better. Instead of applying to the image itself... it acts more like a filter. You apply it to the layer. So say you put a shadow on it. When you edit the layer, the shadow updates as well. They only had this for the simpler effects it seems though (ones that didn't take a lot of time to apply). I found that very nice for designing web designs. Photoshops snapping was also pretty cool... but not cool enough to want in the gimp. layer effects. i have heard and heard about these. since photoshop was not written well enough to run on linux without a helper library i am too much of a linux snob to use, i have not tried or seen this yet. it was explained to me much like you explained it here. i have seen discussions of guessing how they do this and how
Re: [Gimp-user] Workaround for Styled Text?
On Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 02:28:10PM -0700, Sarah wrote: I noticed that the the text tool cannot create multi-styled text... and apparently several bugs and/or enhancement requests have been filed asking for this feature. when you ask for multi-styled text, what is it that you want? GIMP does as much as a web browser does if you are talking about styled text in the same way that html styles it. if there is an italic font available, the browser will use it and so will gimp. neither the browser or gimp will make an italic font if one does not exist on the computer. if you want fake styled fonts. like where the software slants them or makes them bold (and not how the font artist made the font) then the freetype plug-in should work for you. http://freetype.gimp.org although, i have not checked to see if that was still there. if you meant something else, please explain this. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Dynamic Brushes
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 07:17:07PM +0200, Stefan Andersson wrote: Brushes. You can dynamicly change them... but only certain ones? If I use some brushes which I made I can't resize them dynamicly? or do I need to resave them in each pixel size that I want them? you can tell the editable brushes from the bitmapped brushes in the brush palette. they have the blue corner. you can make a copy of those brushes and rename them and change the shape and make copies of the new ones to your hearts content. the brush editing dialog lets you change from circular or square or diamonds and there are controls for rays, hardness and a lot of other things. the other brushes are images or stacks of images. their size cannot be changed. you can make new image brushes the old fashioned way -- where you make a new image and save that as gbr. i suggest that you should work with those editable brushes though, as it seems to be the direction your question was going. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] crop menu
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 06:34:30PM +0100, Adrian Speich wrote: Hi, My crop button in in the image menu is disabled (greyed out), I have tried to crop loads of different files (jpg, bmp, gif), made sure I have write permissions on them all, and same thing. Any ideas? in the image menu, the crop option needs a selection. if there is a selection then choosing this option makes the image crop to the selection -- even if it is irregular. in the toolbox is a croptool, which will allow you to define the crop area with some borders and/or numerically in the tool options. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Am I stupid!? Changing color does not work
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 02:13:34AM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote: Hi all! I have an image and I want to change all colors into a different one. So what did I do: * Select region by color * switch to pencil tool opacity 100 mode normal circle big color the new I want and then I thought I can draw and the colors would be exchanged. Well, instead of a nice blue I get a smeary grey, strange. Looks like instead of *replacing* the values of the pixels some combination of the pixel values is done. I thought with opacity 100 this will not happen, but I seem to be wrong. Any idea/help??? i think you are probably painting an indexed image. change the mode to rgb using Image/Mode/RGB you are not stupid. your image is. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: How to animate a transition effect?
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:27:22AM +0200, Dave Neary wrote: Cheers, Dave. what is wrong with hof's how-to? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: How to animate a transition effect?
On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 06:42:33PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: David Neary wrote: You need GAP, the GIMP Animation Package. There's a tutorial that jimmac did ... I'll have another look, but--not to put too fine a point on it--without any computer animation background (vocabulary and some idea of the process), I couldn't understand either GAP or the tutorial well enough to get started. Could you (or someone) describe in a few clear steps how to make a simple animation with GAP? Or point me to something like that? I'd enjoy investing a little time to learn the basics, but as you might guess, having a nifty transition isn't all that important in the grand scheme. i dunno about schemes, grand or not -- but i do know that i learned a lot from the tutorial written by the gap author which is hosted on my web site: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/animation/gap/move_path/ my web site is transition right now and at the nifty part of it, so i apologize for that. also, this tutorial does not address your questions directly, however, i found after i went through this tutorial, i had a much better mind for gap and how it works. the Move Path dialog is very very powerful with many many options. the one example shown here is a little look into how the rest of the dialog works -- at least it was for me. learning gap gui was worth the effort. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gif/avi in gap
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 03:07:08AM -0400, adly mabro wrote: Do I have to convert my gif animation to avi in order to get my layers into frames using Split Video into Frames, or is there another way in gap, that is still automated? an animated gif is a image with color restrictions and is made of layers. an avi is an mp3 with encoding limitations and is made of frames. you should first use gap to split the gif into separate images using Image/Video/Split image into frames and then re-encode into avi using Image/Video/Encode/Master videoencoder. the default settings for the gap master encoder will produce an avi that has been reported to not be viewable on Windows. i don't know if that has changed. this caused me to change the encoding (on a recommendation) to ts format (found somewhere in the master videoencoder dialog). good luck with that as there are apparently as many different video encodings as there are people in this world. and perhaps more as those people are allowed to change their minds and rethink the things they have done and written. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] plugin which will center a layer horizontally and/or vertically
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 07:35:18AM -0500, John Minson wrote: Here is Joao S. O. Bueno plugin which will center a layer horizontally and/or vertically . Many thanks to Joao . register( center_layer, Centers Current Layer on Canvas, enters Current Layer on Canvas, Joao S. O. Bueno, (k) All rites reversed - JS, 2004, Image/Python-Fu/center-layer, this line: *, should be this: , [ (PF_BOOL, h_center, Center Horizontaly, True), (PF_BOOL, v_center, Center Vertically, True), ], [], center_layer) main() ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] testing GAP with our latest GIMP author
hi, i am in an interesting situation here. i live in the same area as the latest gimp author http://gimpbook.com/ this area is Mountain View, California. it is very much to my dismay that i have not *seen* akkana since we celebrated her birthday in 2004. i humbly submit that i also did not press her or ask her to take time from her busy life to spend time with me. i asked once, i determined that if this was not enough to get a time in her very very busy schedule, that i would just be privately sad about this and wait until the book came out. well, the book is out now and interestingly enough, the GIMP Animation Plug-in is in need of testing before its release. i would like to kill two birds with one stone (which is an old fashioned phrase meaning to do to jobs at one time) and get some movies of akkana signing her book. akkana has suggested that we meet at a linux user group. the problem i have with the local linux user groups is that the public is invited, but if friends and people you know are not available to help you to attend, they are not so public after all. (something like the demolition plans that were mentioned in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, where the plans were made public, but in a basement and filed safely from notice) i would like the opportunity to use my little camera to film akkana at a real book signing. like at a mall of one of the local bookstores. i am not afraid of the real public, in fact, by now, i would prefer it. akkana herself is very experienced with the professional world, having been hired at one time by mozilla and also from her work with the local astronomy club. me, all i can do apparently is to write about how other people are able to use GIMP in this world. i am fine with this role. i don't even mind extending my debt just a little more to enable Akkana to advance even further in life than she already has in the world of free software. it would be my honor and pleasure, even. any ideas about accessible local bookstores for Akkana to have a book signing that i can film? thanks, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] testing GAP with our latest GIMP author
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 05:40:14PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Spears wrote: well, the book is out now and interestingly enough, the GIMP Animation Plug-in is in need of testing before its release. I am not really sure what this means but if you are seeking volunteers to follow the instructions in the book for using the GAP then I would be willing. Although well, i actually meant that i needed something to film so i could use GAP. filming my friend akkana signing her book would be a film i could get locally and i have so many reasons to want to see the success. this is the reason i sent it to her publisher as well. only publishers know what it is they had in mind when they found their authors. i suspect that the publisher has been helping her all through the process. how does the print world work? it is me guessing how it works. i fully admit to that. I would ask that the appropriate section(s) be e-mailed to me as I doubt that I will be purchasing it in the near future (most of the stuff which interests me is more technical and only to be had by reading the source). i bought gimp books back in the day when i had money. i enjoyed it when i thought i was helping to sell them as well. the testing actually needs to be done with cvs-gap. i am living in such an environment where right now, i can only imagine how the professionals work and what they work with. there is very little to film here and working on image stacks that are not very inspiring to me is like working on image stacks that are not very inspiring to me. capturing a few images of a person chosen by a publisher who finished their task and made it into print -- this would be an inspiring film for me. and probably the testing of GAP would be easier if i had a goal in mind. I am starting to gain a pretty good grasp of the GAP, due in large part to the tutorials on your site. hof wrote the best one, with all due respect. i put it online. i guess my site gets a lot of traffic. sometimes i even wonder if the web site i have authored is what is actually being seen. perhaps you could pass a long a screenshot or two of the things that you see in your browser when you see my site? i have not checked my site from another computer for years now. it might help me to see exactly what you see while i am working on the rewrite Good luck with your filming. yep, well, while gimp does not understand printer colors -- this gimp tutorial author does not understand exactly how the print industry works. i admit, sometimes it looks like a bad trap. getting the opportunity to film a success story like akkanas would help me to dispell this feeling. i am actually glad to be behind the camera at this point in my life. how does the print industry work, btw? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-help-2-0.10 - failed install
hi axel, On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 07:39:07AM +0200, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 12.05.2006 um 05:58 schrieb Carol Spears: Hi Carol, Roman is still on vacation for a week or so. But why you don't share your thoughts with us on the gimp-docs list? good for roman! sometimes, it is simply easier to do something than it is to talk about it. i was a really good team worker and it destroyed my life. i liked that life. this is the way things are done with gimp stuff now, btw. if a project is deemed abandoned or wrongly installed, it is no big deal to take it over and do it right. i did not want to work this way, however, lately the volunteers we get seem to need payment as incentive to start and complete a project. i am sorry sorry sorry that things work this way. it is not the world i envisioned. there is the need for a documentation system that can be maintained easily. and a system that people can use. i built these docs from a simple text file in hardly no time: http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/pygimp.html and editing them was extremely easy (not unlike writing in a wiki). I'll have a look at it i would appreciate your opinions about it. i actually could edit that pygimp documentation without installing anything in addition to the software itself. i think ircd can handle the stuff that is needed to convert it. http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ if the people in charge don't show up to do something soon, i will get the sgml and use one of the gimp computers to convert them myself. ugh? speak with us, please :) i went to the rapha-awful school of volunteerism. i am now watching how google messes up things that are messed up. it is so much easier to just run this software and do the dirty little conversion and make this stuff so that people can use it. feel free to write me in private if you have problems with me making this conversion. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-help-2-0.10 - failed install
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 07:09:28AM +1000, Felix Karpfen wrote: It looked to me as though this step should have been done while I am online. If this is the case, then is the following entry in the INSTALL file of gimp-help-2-0.10 relevant: | By default we do not allow the XSLT processor to attempt to download | external resources. If you have a fast internet connection, it may be | useful to allow xsltproc to fetch DTDs or entities over the network?: i actually have been waiting for Roman Joost to be around because my attention has been drawn to an application which is very very (to me) simple to use and does not need all of that extra software and apparently the good internet connection as well. i built these docs from a simple text file in hardly no time: http://www.gimp.org/docs/python/pygimp.html and editing them was extremely easy (not unlike writing in a wiki). http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ if the people in charge don't show up to do something soon, i will get the sgml and use one of the gimp computers to convert them myself. things were so much better when the gimp project was made of a bunch of people working together. i am very sorry that those days have gone (now we get funding to get things done). that being said, i will work happily together with myself, especially since i have been provided with some sane software and a sane format to work with carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] layers
On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 11:28:15AM -0400, adly mabro wrote: I have small animated gifs of about 30 to 90 frames. I need to make identical changes to some or all of the layers, such as delete,change the timing attribute, adding and applying the same mask to each layer, etc. Until now I have been doing the repetitive tasks manually one layer at a time not having found any other way. use gap. the challenge of learning the gui might rival the time it takes to manually change the frames, but it is worth it in knowledge and how your time is being spent, in my opinion. i put some things online: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/animation/gap carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Image Enhancement
On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 02:00:01PM -0500, Wade Smart wrote: 05052006 1358 GMT-6 I have a not so good image that I need to clear up. This is probably way beyond my ability to be truthful. What I need to do is zoom in a bit and enhance the picture so you can see it better. Can I do this with Gimp? Are there other plugins to help with this? heh way beyond my ability to be truthful or to be truthful: way beyond my ability? is this image for print or for web page display? do you need a small part of a larger image that needs to be cut away? do you need the whole image to improve, like in color or to not be so blurry? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] where is gimpguru.org?
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 06:33:04PM +0200, Colin Brace wrote: gimpguru.org has been down for a number of days now. I hope this is just temporary glitch; gimp.org/tutorials/ mirrors many but not all of Eric's tutorials... gimp.org hosts only those tutorials that we were given permission to reproduce. this is how print permission and copyright works. respectfully yours, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] removing backgrounds
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 05:30:56PM +0200, Colin Brace wrote: On 4/24/06, C. DeBerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone explain to me the process of removing the background color from my logo? It has this nasty white box around it, and looks horrible on colored paper/backgrounds. There are probably various ways to do this, but one way would be to use the the select regions by color tool (ctrl-o) . Select the background color and then just delete it. i would make the selection like this, but then i would Select--Invert and then Image--Crop. this little shortcut in the menu will make the croptool snap to the selection. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] darkening a grey-scale drawing
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 11:41:27AM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:57:08PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I have a simple line drawing that is in shades of light grey against a white ground. My aim is to increase the grey scale range from 000 199 to 000 to 255. ... Am I just being clumbsy, or is there a better approach? try using the levels tool. Thanks, Carol, I did as you suggested. It works, although the result was unsatisfactory because the original image distribution of greys was uneven, and so the result was spotty (gaps in lines, artifacts, etc.). I guess I try to draw a new image myself. Please excuse the appended question, but is there a way I could use the original as a kind of template to produce a hard line clean version in black? I could then blur it a bit for a nice result. use the original to make a mask. it has been a long while since i worked with scans, but iirc, i used the levels to get rid of the noise. after that, the threshold tool. blurring the black and white result of the thresholded image will add the grays back nicely. invert this layer. then stack first a solid background color and then over that, whatever color you want your lines to be (black looks like what you want) then use the mask you made on this layer. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] darkening a grey-scale drawing
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 04:57:08PM -0400, Haines Brown wrote: I have a simple line drawing that is in shades of light grey against a white ground. My aim is to increase the grey scale range from 000 199 to 000 to 255. Grokking the Gimp suggests I should use the Threshold Tool, but this produces unsatisfactory results. By moving the sliders I can darken the light grey to black, but what I'm left with is just what had been the original very darkest greys, and the lighter greys disappear. Am I just being clumbsy, or is there a better approach? try using the levels tool. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Does Gimp have CHOP like ImageMagick
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 09:12:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SuSE 8.2, 9.3 Gimp 1.2.3, 2.2.4 Does Gimp have a CHOP tool similar to ImageMagick? Magick CHOP chops a vertical or horizontal bar from an image. does it make two or several images or does it leave a big transparent hole in the middle of it? the first can be accomplished with guillotine or perltine or pyslice or i think there is a scriptfu-slice floating around. the second can be accomplished by defining a selection and Edit/Cut. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Does Gimp have CHOP like ImageMagick
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:19:59AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 09:12:37PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does Gimp have a CHOP tool similar to ImageMagick? Magick CHOP chops a vertical or horizontal bar from an image. does it make two or several images or does it leave a big transparent hole in the middle of it? the first can be accomplished with guillotine or perltine or pyslice or i think there is a scriptfu-slice floating around. the second can be accomplished by defining a selection and Edit/Cut. A single mouse drag defines the slice. The slice disappears and the image strips above and below or left and right of the slice join together as one image. An example of use: we photograph visiting groups against a white wall with a sign several feet above their heads. A Magick vertical chop drops the sign to about one foot above their heads. Without carefully examining the mortar joints in the wall I can't see the chop. to the best of my knowledge, gimp doesn't do this; although there are probably scripts out there that i don't know about and maybe something like this exists. maybe i will write one even sorry that it is not part of a basic gimp install for you though, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] lines with arrow
On Mon, Apr 10, 2006 at 10:33:36PM -0500, Haibo Yu wrote: Could anyone tell me how to make a line with arrow in gimp? I have been browsing through the website, but could not find. typically, the suggestion is to use inkscape as it is a vector drawing application. however, to do this in gimp, use the path tool. you can very easily make straight line segments with this tool and Edit--Stroke Path gives a dialog with several different options and even tools to paint along your paths. also, once you have a line with an arrow that you like, you can duplicate it and use the transformation tools (scale and rotate, for instance) and the move tool to get the same arrow in different sizes and pointing in different directions. you can also export your arrow to svg via the path dialog. right click on the dialog and there is an option to export. then you can easily import your arrow into other images. also, sorry about the web site. it was made for gimp-1.2. the path tool has changed (and improved) about the most of any of the tools since that version of gimp. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] important GIMP features for the future ?
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 11:14:22PM +0200, devvv wrote: Hello, I gave a course today about GIMP/2.2 at a local college for some teachers that decided to switch over to GIMP instead of using Adobe Photoshop because they don't want to support proprietary software and because they want to spend their budget for more useful things than Photoshop licenses. Some did not have any former experience with comprehensive image manipulation programs. Some schools are switching to GIMP/2 soon because of me and my courses ;) I'm posting a list below that imo is very important for an easier and more accessible use of GIMP2! I'm sure you've heard them all already but they're really needed! The bug numbers are in parentheses. thanks for pushing it and helping there! Needed features: *** Dynamic Brush Resize: *** Please change the way you use brushes. Make it easier to choose a type of brush of any desired size. (#65030) gimp2 can handle vector brushes. the bug report asks that they be more dynamic, but grabbing one from the palette and changing the size with a slider is not so difficult for me, but i am not used to any other software. i got a bunch of these brushes from pippin and have put these online: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/resources/brushes/vbrushes.zip you can put them into your .gimp-2.3/brushes/ or put them some place else and point gimp to them via Preferences. or even, put them into the system files (if you are using linux -- i don't know how that works on windows or macintosh). in the brushes palette, they show up with a blue corner. with the buttons in the lower portion of the palette, you can select Edit and get a dockable dialog that allows the brush to change sizes. you can copy brushes and make them different sizes and well, other different things. *** Text-Options: *** 1. Implement buttons for Bold and Italic style. It is horrible when you have 150 fonts or so installed and you need to choose (#150500) i have my own feelings about this. to me these fonts are little pieces of art themselves. to programmatically make them bold or italic takes some of the art away from them. i am not certain how many feel this same way. i thought for a while that a nice way for font artists to make money from their work is to provide the normal font for free and then to sell the other (thoughtfully and not programmatically) adapted versions of them to people who wanted a complete set. i pull this scenario completely out of my imagination (or where ever else you pull uninvestigated musings from...) so, feel free to correct me if i am wrong about this. they are beginning to talk about talking about a different font selector. this would involve many of the free art making software projects, not just gimp. that being said, the gimp freetype plug-in can do a lot of these things to fonts. this plug-in can be found at http://freetype.gimp.org. it should not be out of reach of the imagination of other artists that they might want to be able to control their work and perhaps get paid for their efforts. fonts are very difficult to make and good fonts are extremely difficult to make. i don't know enough to comment on the other requests. except that there is a rumor that the python scripts might have a preview soon. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] where is gimp tips?
hello Pan, On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:37:42PM +0800, Pan Yongzhi wrote: My first post here. :) Can you tell me where is the Tip of the Day file located? I want to make a bilingual tip file so that it displays English and French tip at the same time? I suppose the tip file is like a fortune cookie. Thank you very much. the tips are located in the source at data/tips/ and there are translations in po-tips/ and, i can see a fortunes.xsl file there so your ideas must be correct about that. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Clipping Paths
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:43:21AM -0700, kenquad wrote: Quick question: can I do TIFF clipping paths in GIMP like you can in Photoshop - or something equivalent? Thanks a bunch, Photoshop is unable to run on my os without a lot of help which basically means it does not run on my os. given this information, can you explain what it is you perceive that photoshop does with paths for you? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Clipping Paths
On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 02:04:01PM -0700, kenquad wrote: Actually I've never used Photoshop, but I hear from a DTP expert that it has a function called clipping paths which can be used with an EPS (sorry I said TIFF in error) to tell your layout software (e.g. Quark, Scribus) which areas to set transparent. Thus far I've used transparent PNGs for this effect but it's not particularly reliable. gimp turns eps into pixel images. inkscape is probably the best option for what you need. that being said, i have done this thing (that i think you are asking about) with a combination of selections and merging the union of a path with a selection and then making a new path of the resulting selection a few times for when i needed to do this. right click in the face of the path dialog and you can find the things i mentioned. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] batch convert
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 06:31:19AM +0200, Stephan Hegel wrote: Does ImageMagick support the xcf file format ? last i knew it could read them and convert from them but not make them. gimp can do this. it is somewhere on my website, i think the page is very broken right now, but it should be somewhere in http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/scripting/ don't let complaints from the script-fu server annoy or concern you if you find and use that script from the commandline. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Startup values
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 08:49:52PM -0700, Akkana Peck wrote: Carol Spears writes: On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 09:01:18AM -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: When I start Gimp 2.3.7 it starts with a paintbrush. I would rather it started with the rectangular select tool. Somewhere in .gimp-2.3 is a value that sets this option I suspect. But I haven't found it yet. File/Preferences/Tool Options -- make certain that the tool you want active for each time you start GIMP is active and push the Save Tool Options Now button and also that the Save Tool Options on exit toggle is toggled off. That works for me, but if it doesn't work for you, try the Input Devices category of Preferences and click on Save Input Device Settings Now. That should save the tool, colors, brush, pattern and gradient for each device you have active (even if all you use is the standard mouse). i think this saves a different default pattern, brush, etc. only. and also, i think the question was how to make gimp start with a different tool than it does by default. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Window decorations
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 11:34:33AM +, Roy Sanderson wrote: Hello I've recently upgraded from RHL 7.3 to Fedora, and hence from Gimp version 1.2.3 to version 2.2.10 One thing that has puzzled us is that when doing a 'grab' of a single window (via File-Aquire-Screenshot), there is no longer the option of grabbing a window without decorations (i.e. without its title bar, control buttons etc.). Other than selecting, copying and pasting from the grabbed window in Gimp to exclude the decorations (which is not always accurate and users are complaining) is there a way of getting the 'Without Decorations' button to show as in version 1.2.3 on the Screenshot command? this has been fixed in gimp-2.3 and (to me) the screenshot getter makes much more sense now than in either gimp-1.2 or gimp-2.2. that being said, i have not yet tried to select an area on the desktop. to me, you can select the area on the desktop, or you can use the superior tools and select the same stuff from the image. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gap story board
On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 07:11:47PM +0100, sam ende wrote: hi, does anyone know or can point me to a tutorial on how the storyboard works in the gap filter, carol perhaps ? thanks :) if you hadn't mentioned my name, i would have waited quietly for an answer to your question. my theory about the storyboard plug-in is that it should seem natural if you have had experience with the real life story board it probably emulates. my personal experience with it could be described easiest with the words clueless and frustered. sorry. maybe someone who knows how it works will pipe up here. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble with Open Image box
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 06:49:00PM -0600, Judy Wilson wrote: I get an error when I try to add a Bookmark to the left window on the Open Image window. It says Error Could not make a bookmarkBookmark saving failed: Could not change file mode: waitpid() failed: No child processes Somehow it worked randomly a couple of times, then I couldn't remove it. I'm using Gimp 2.2 on Kubuntu 5.10. I'm not a geek, but my husband is a Linux geek, and he couldn't figure it out. Thanks in advance. i think you are trying to bookmark a file and not a directory (or Folder is what they call them now). carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Startup values
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 09:01:18AM -0400, John R. Culleton wrote: When I start Gimp 2.3.7 it starts with a paintbrush. I would rather it started with the rectangular select tool. Somewhere in .gimp-2.3 is a value that sets this option I suspect. But I haven't found it yet. Someone please give me a hint. well, i spent the morning here reading the man pages and looking at all of the .gimp-2.3/*rc files and even searching recent irc logs because i remembered that there had been chat about default something there. in the irc log, the chat was about how to change the default brush -- not tool. the manpages do not say a thing, so don't waste your time there. right now, i am playing with a combination of Preferences. this combination seems to work: File/Preferences/Tool Options -- make certain that the tool you want active for each time you start GIMP is active and push the Save Tool Options Now button and also that the Save Tool Options on exit toggle is toggled off. while you are at it, you can make and save the positions of your docks and tabs by doing a similar thing with the Window Management Preferences. one thing i found interesting about the Window Management Preferences, is that when you save the current position of the windows and docks and tabs, you also save the current position of the Preferences Dialog, so make sure that is in the location that you always want *it* to open up in as well before pushing any window management buttons in gimp preferences. (it was kind of a funny read, as far as *rc files go) let me (us) know how it goes carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Trouble with Open Image box
On Tue, Apr 04, 2006 at 10:35:28PM -0400, Gracia M. Littauer wrote: Yo Carol, i think you are trying to bookmark a file and not a directory (or Folder is what they call them now). I am trying to bookmark a dir...I don't have files in my Nikon dir...only dirs like the other poster, some have worked some not. the selector is really picky. like, you need to highlight the name of the directory, not go into it. I see 'folder' drives you nuts also ;^). yes, it is wrong. we looked at a few definitions of the word, and the definitions do not translate even metaphorically into what that is on a computer. also, if you are in charge of real life folders, the last thing that you want to do is have folders within folders. so this word really obscures the meaning and functionality of what has been traditionally known as a directory on a computer. thanks for commiserating with me! carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] recompiling 2.3.7 for FC5: config can't find libtiff
On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 10:39:10PM +0100, Colin Brace wrote: On 3/23/06, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am wondering if you configure --without-libtiff what happens? How bizarre: $ ./configure --prefix=/opt/gimp-2.3.7 --without-libtiff [...] Building GIMP with prefix=/opt/gimp-2.3.7 GIMP Features: gimp-remote: no (XMU library not found) tiff:yes [...] well, this really has the smell of a bug report. have you ever filed one before? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] recompiling 2.3.7 for FC5: config can't find libtiff
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:08:14AM +0100, Colin Brace wrote: I just finished the compile (with python support this time!), but alas no tiff support. So, something definitely got munged. well, this really has the smell of a bug report. have you ever filed one before? Yes, just did: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335764 Care to add anything? i did some checking around and these are probably two different bugs. i tried to comment this way on the bug report. for your problem, i am wondering if you have libtiff-dev installed. i mentioned this on the bug report as well. for my problem, it is a very very suspicious bug. it would be very nice to see it get fixed very very soon. this has been fun today, i will readily admit to this! thanks, carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fill transparent?
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:49:00AM -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: Hi All, I'm really sorry this is probably a dumb/rtfm type question but I guess I don't know enough to know what to look for. I simply want to make a selection transparent. I can make the selection OK, but when I click the little red eraser thingy (for which the tooltip says Erase to background or transparency I can't make it make the selection transparent no matter what I try. you answered your own question (see your signature) Erase to background or transparency. if you are not erasing to transparency then you are erasing to what? Can anyone tell me what I should be doing please? photographs, jpegs, many (but not all) png and other file formats do not have the notion of transparency built into them. this notion is called the alpha channel and it is mathematically an additional stack of color that can also include levels of transparency. right click on the layer dialog and tell gimp to add this extra stack of color capacity to the image you are trying to erase to transparency. Add transparency or something like that. gimp does not fill with transparency. it erases, clears, cuts or uses masks to make transparency. gimp handles selections its own way. forget everything you know about them. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gradient lighten
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 10:07:46AM -0800, Bill W. wrote: Hi all, Quick newbie question. I have a photo that is full bright on one side, the left; and subdued light on the right. It seems to be an excellent job for gradient and layers but I'm not sure how to go about getting started. I checked in tutorials and couldn't find anything on this specifically. first, read the earlier thread on adding the alpha channel to the photograph. then use the right click menu in the layers dialog and add a mask to the photograph layer then use the blend tool to add a gradient. you can adjust where the gradient colors start and end in the gradient editor (right click there also to find options for this) the strength of the gradient you are painting can be adjusted in the blend tool options. probably, you will need to add an all black or all white layer under the photograph layer. (or maybe a duplicate of the photograph instead) carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] no raw in 2.2.7?
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 08:30:20PM -0500, Gracia M. Littauer wrote: I have the right raw files that worked w/previous versions, but no banana with 2.2.7 gimp is kind of useless if I can't open my pix files ;^(. i think that this plug-in is third party which means you need to get it and install it yourself. maybe there is a whole fruit salad with a more current version of gimp though. where did you get the version you are using from? was it different from where you got the others? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Open Save dialog
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 02:53:11PM +0100, Jakub Steiner wrote: There is no key combo to access file completion. Just start typing. this can bite you though. here is the case where it fails miserably: the dialog shows up and the name in the location area is highlighted. expand the twisty for the advanced file location and move to a different location in your directories. once you and the file selector are where you want the image to be, start typing. a little box appears that accepts text and the highlighted text in the location area remains highlighted/unfocused. is it a search that is triggered by that? whatever happens, the dialog accepts the typed text in the new weird and slightly unintuitive (still, sorry) text window and after you have finished typing what you want the file to be named, the new area disappears with no saving having been accomplished. as a user, you say wtf! (to yourself since it is not correct procedure to express opinions about the designer). click in the location area. the highlighting goes away. rehighlight it and retype your file name. i like the new file selector. it is easy like that now. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Tiling a picture
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 01:48:55PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I would like to make a poster out of a picture, but not in one piece. I have many small frames hanging on a wall and I would like to place one part of the original image in each frame, in such a way that when all the frames are placed side by side the original picture would appear. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I could split an image into an arbitrary number of pieces, specifying at the same time the size of those pieces? the guillotine plug-in splits an image along guides that the user puts into place. if your question is about resizing, i think that would be a separate step. one of the problems with the guillotine plug-in is that all it does is split the image into many images. it does not save the pieces. gimp-perl and gimp-python each have an image slicer that slices the image, saves the pieces and writes some flavor of html or another. it is easier to answer the simple interpretation of your question. if this has failed, please expand your explanation some (even though the answer will probably be no, not yet). carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] GIMP, OSS and things called forums
while i am not interested in excluding GIMP from collections of software that people call *OSS, there is certainly a lot of confusion involving *OSS advocates when it comes to the expectations of them about what gimp developers and volunteers will do. here is one point. people coming here from OSS and not gpl seem to think that the more users there are the better that is. this might be the case for other projects, but not for gimp. no one that i know of who is working on gimp seems to have the time or desire to count downloads. the unfortunate fact is that even if they did, even i could write a little script that would download a package and delete it again. there is a very good chance that a project that was interested in actual numbers could easily prevent my downloads from being counted, but would their bosses (or whoever they are showing the numbers to) know this? software that is labeled as *OSS only (and not some of the other free type labels that are currently available) began life being mimics of software created for profit by corporations that need profit and that are full of and being run by bosses who might demand numbers (of downloads for instance) without understanding how easy that is to hack. if you do not really care about how many people are using your software and care instead about what the software does and how it works and how easy it is to maintain, 5000 people in need is not what you want. 1 or 2 people who can write a tutorial or help with a documentation translation or something productive is what you want. take for example my web site. i can tell you that the last time the stats were looked at (by my knowlege) it had received +40,000 web hits between a Sunday and Thursday and that looks really really impressive. if i start to break down these hits by where they came from, it makes this number look less and less impressive. i will be honest when i say that perhaps considering 5000 of these hits is a little optimistic. the bigger truth of my web site is that i write it thinking that a few of the gimp developers might read it (and even then, those people seem to rarely read it!) and thinking about how much i love the application i am writing about. even 100 hits (that are not me checking my work) is unexpected by me and somewhat a pain because i am not able to easily move the site and run it from my own computer the same way i started. so, i guess i was writing the pages so that people would read them. now that people are reading them, the message should be that there is not such strength in numbers as everyone seems to suspect and try to manipulate with. on forums: to use this term generically as was suggested in a different thread avoids the differences between a web site like www.gimptalk.com and an old fashioned mail list like this one. this mail list, and it is a mail list and not a forum has some instructions which have been provided for on the gimp web site: http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html when that page was designed, the people working then were trying to be nice so you might have to scroll down to read the ettiquette that was thoughtfully authored there. i suspect that some web forums (and there are a lot of web interfaces calling themselves that online right now and they work differently than things called mail lists do) have made it possible to post to this mail list via their web interface -- or the other way around, where posts to this mail list appear as if it is part of the discussion on their web forum. if my suspicions are accurate, this is both a nice thing as it reduces wear and tear on the mail server and a bad thing as it means that some of the users will never understand that it is a mail list and not understand the ettiquette involved. it makes the ignorant to be stupid. ignorance is not the problem, stupid thoughtless interfaces are. and the user is not the problem either. who ever runs their web interface this way is. sorry this is so long to read. diplomatic answers seem to need more words than simply honest answers. if all *OSS advocates could simply understand that the number of users is basically meaningless to people who are working on a project like GIMP, it would help. can one or two of all of those numbers of GIMPShop users please help that poor guy with his bandwidth problems? if not, those numbers are a negative to a project whose sole purpose to to allow people to edit images with their own computers. and when the numbers are not meaningless, they tend to be a hinderance. please advocate not being a hinderance. carol ps. one of the strengths that photoshop has over gimp is that, to the best of my knowledge, they don't get judged by how they say no to their users. GIMP could start that way to emulate Photoshop, perhaps, experimentally, of course. start a new line of development mimicing software -- should we call it OSNUI Open Source No User Input. ___ Gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp scripting/automating howto
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 09:21:15AM +0800, jed mallen wrote: Hello, Can anyone recommend a nice howto on automating batch jobs on gimp (ie: resizing, border, etc.)? i have put some stuff on my site. the old (gimp-2.0-2.2) stuff should be at http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/resources/python/ and stuff that is not guarrenteed to work on gimps older than about gimp-2.3.5 (but might) at http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/scripting/ i dunno the reason these don't show up in search engines. maybe because i delete all that spam promising to up my ranking let me know if you need some more help or find something missing. most of the stuff there is in python. i tried to put examples there of things that are not so clearly scripted as using the gui would be (when completing the same tasks. there is no way that i could have written anything functional with gimp-python without the excellent resource located at http://docs.python.org/lib/lib.html i have found it easier to learn it by seeing example scripts. what is not there is probably found in the gimp sources. the python whirl and pinch plug-in that comes with gimp-python -- i saw actual astonishment from one of gimps more notorious scripters. that respectful kind of astonishment, even. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] blue + yellow = green
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:19:46PM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: On Feb 25, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Carol Spears wrote: first thing. in keeping with the spirit of how gimpshop came to be, i am curious if there are separate online resources for this application. they opted (probably for really good reasons) to go on their own to provide software for what is probably a large group of users. perhaps you could list gimpshop resources here so that the gimp users can redirect the gimpshop questions to the proper place. personally, i do not want to interfer with them. they filled a nitch and did this without the gimp developers. i suspect they had really good reasons to do this. it would be wrong, in my opinion, to start to help them now -- keeping with the spirit of their project. From your writing tone, I sense a bit of a rift between Gimp and Gimpshop. I find that odd given that I did not sense it at the Gimpshop site. While there I heard nothing but praise and references back to Gimp.org, but admittedly I didn't set out to find animosity. i am sorry if my tone suggested this. if i start a project like gimpshop on my own and wanted the help of the gimp developers, i would probably talk to them about how to go about having this project. it is part of what i think working together is. perhaps it is that i have expanded the definition too much for todays standards. going on with this idea though, if i started a project without seeing how to work with the existing developers, probably i would continue to not want them to intervene. especially, if i had modified the sources in such an unmaintainable way. i borrowed your car and i gave it an automatic tranmission for you, don't worry about thanking me! please, do not do that to my car. i am not going to do this to your car--and, you do not have to thank me for that. please, read my comments with the tone of respect for the way the gimpshop development team has opted to work. From what I have read, Gimpshop is the Gimp with a skin to make it a bit more like Photoshop. From using it myself I would have to say that is a fair assessment. No question, Gimpshop is not Photoshop, nor did I expect it to be. I expected it to be the Gimp with a twist, which, as far as I can tell, it is. i think you read wrongly, however, i read different things and perhaps i read the wrong information. i am personally against making gimp look like photoshop at all. i speak for myself however. some of the gimp developers are now involved with all these crazy usability forums where everyone is a usability expert and lord knows, i really speak for myself now. reasons i have to be against letting gimp look anything like photoshop are mostly involving personal experiences where the gimp user can show the photoshop user how to make it work and not the other way around. even when i accidentally chose two splash made by photoshop: http://ircd.gimp.org/~carol/splash/river/ http://ircd.gimp.org/~carol/splash/sun2/ i saw words used that would be in my opinion a real problem to translate. the word pond for instance, to describe ripple size. in gimp, a similar tutorial would suggest the value or number for the similar gimp plug-in. the numeric value is much more translateable and ultimately understandable. gimp is a learning tool and more and more designed for ease in translation. all of the converted photoshop users of gimp who refuse to get it without the photoshop spoon attest to gimps success in what it does. personally, i would be disinterested in making it easier for photoshop users unless i could make some money from it. For me Gimpshop is a way for me to introduce the Gimp to other volunteers that I work with at a local non-profit. We take in old computers, refurbish them, use them to teach under-served kids in grades 4-8 how to use computers, and then give the computers to the students at the end of the session which last about 8 weeks. The non- profit already has a tremendous amount of material for teaching Photoshop (my guess would be some pared-down version). Plus Photoshop is something the existing volunteers are very familiar with. However, because of technical, legal, and financial constraints, we have decided to migrate to using and teaching Open Source. The Gimp seems to be a natural choices for image manipulation, with the Gimpshop providing a smooth migration path given our existing Photoshop infrastructure. Sure, eventually we'll migrate completely to the Gimp. But for now, it's baby steps. half a step is silly. baby steps are really not useful. you do not teach open source unless you also teach how to work with developers if there is problems with understanding. call this a baby step in sorry the gimpshop web site has not enough bandwidth, please contribute to that team so you can continue to take your baby steps. if there is not a smooth translation of use
Re: [Gimp-user] blue + yellow = green
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 09:01:30PM -0800, Carol Spears wrote: gimp (the way it was made) is a much better way to learn image manipulation. one more time, if changing from photoshop to gimp is a problem and changing from gimp to photoshop is a problem -- wherein are the gimp design problems? this sentence makes no sense, sorry. allow me to fix it: gimp (the way it was made) is a much better way to learn image manipulation. one more time, if changing from photoshop to gimp is a problem and changing from gimp to photoshop is not a problem -- wherein are the gimp design problems? sorry. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Building multicolor gradients.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:40:45AM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: I want to build a gradient with three (or more) colors. Under 2.3.7 the new gradient routine only allows or a start and an end color. What am I missing? i think you are missing an idea. first add new segments. right click on the colors in the gradient editor. you can add segments in more than one way. i always have to read the options and think about it. each segment has a right boundry, center boundry and left boundry. the end and start in the dialog means the selected segments. to select a segment, right click on the center triangle of the segment you want. to select a group of segments, right click on either ending segment and (i think) shift click on the other ending segment. the menu dialog uses right and left start points and this would be the right and left of the selected group of segments. the interface with the gradient editor is somewhat complex, but so is editing gradients. after having been successful at this, i cannot think of a simpler way to do this. i think i have a tutorial about it, i don't know if it answers your questions directly . [pause while reviewing old tutorials] http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/artsy-fartsy/gradient/ sure, it is right there. howcome i get so many web hits yet no one seems to know where my tutorials are? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Animations with translucent layers?
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 07:58:35PM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Hello all, for several times I managed to create animations witb Gimp 2.2. Especially nice are web animations (GIF) which are easily done with GIMP. Now, for the first time, GIMP's outcome is different from what I expect. Is it a feature or a bug that partly transparent layers are not shown in the animation preview box? I put an example to http://www.skolelinux.de/~ralf/artwork/animations/ forgive me, i have not looked at the animation yet. even without looking (however) i can tell you that gif is either completely transparent or completely painted. there is no inbetween, unless you are one of those people who has purchased or obtained the propietary gif libraries which use (i think) something that i can only imagine to be a layered color set up. the gifs that average users like you (maybe) and me have one 256 color palette. one of the color positions can be used for transparency leaving 255 colors and 1 no color. the industry gif has 256 of those palettes to work with and can show various amounts of transparency. btw, 256x256 is something close to 16 million, which is the number of colors that a jpeg uses. jpeg however does not know transparency. so there you go. it is not gimp that cannot make your animation transparent, it is the library they allow you to have and for your software to use to make and view gif with. mng works. i am certain that one day a browser will be made that can display mng. especially if we can make a community of interested people who want to deliver free software to actual users. until such a software project exists, you can search the bug reports of the different browser projects to see what has happened there. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] // gimp and dotfiles //
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 12:02:29AM +0100, Julian Oliver wrote: it appears the file-open dialog doesn't seem to have support for dotdirs. is their any intention to support this with a Show Hidden button or similar? by dotdirs i mean 'hidden' directories like ~/.somegame or ~/.mywindowmanager/backgrounds etc while i can work with images outside and move them to a hidden directory, game-data (textures and the like) are often stored in such locations and so during modification of a game (for instance) working with the gimp is slightly more troublesome. right-click on the dialog face and there is an option to Show hidden files. you will have to right click everytime if you wish to see the hidden files. this new file selector is easier that way. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Python and Windows XP
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 12:56:24PM -0800, Demetrius Jones wrote: I was wondering if someone could point out how I am supposed to get the Gimp 2.3.6 to recognize that I have python installed on the computer so that I may be able to use py fu scripts python loads modules. gimp-fu is a python module that needs to be built. the answer to your question is that you need to install the gimp-python module. i have no idea how to build this for XP. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Logarithmic gradient
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 05:01:24PM +0200, Vytautas P. wrote: And where all these gradients stored? ~/.gimp-2.2/gradients contains no files at all. copy any existing gradient (use the button on the Gradients Dialog) and the gradient editor should appear. in the gradient editor dialog, right click where the color is and there is quite a list of things you can do there. changing the gradient from linear to something else is an option there. if you save your gradient copy (there is a button on the editor to do this) you will have a gradient in your personal directory. the gradient editor is very robust. i did not see anything like it in photoshop5 or photoshop7 or in paintshop pro5 or 6. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:43:55PM -0500, Scott wrote: On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote: gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. I ran it with --disable-mmx, now ld does not support the -rpath switch on OS X. And there does not seem to be an option to disable it in the configure, at least that I found . i took a few seconds and ran ./autogen.sh --help and i found an option to --enable-sseenable SSE support (default=auto) this is what the error message complained about. the error message did not complain about mmx although, i think that disabling it should not have messed up -rpath. i am sorry if using mmx as a suggestion to look for sse configuration options was confusing. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Default settings for scaling images: high quality?
hi, the goal was edited from this email thread, so i am putting it back here. back when the berkeley computers also shared an archive of the mail list, emails like this were useful to people. with the strong desire that this might one day be the case again, we can all make sure that the emails that are archived make some sense. (me included!) the original question was how to set the default action of the interpolation method used by gimp for transforming images. On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 08:54:42AM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Am Freitag, 10. Februar 2006 20:13 schrieben Sie: FilePreferencesTool options thank you, this works ;) is there a way to use this setting system wide (all users)? any hints on how to associate gimp for a specific file type (suffix) likewise system wide (mimetypes for KDE 3.3), BTW? make it the default preference for new users by editing the gimprc that user_install starts with. if you have gimptool (usually included with libgimp-dev) gimptool --sysconfdir should tell you where this is located. edit this line: # (interpolation-type linear) to (interpolation-type bicubic) carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 07:42:12AM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 11.02.2006 um 00:41 schrieb Carol Spears: could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly? after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice. do people run apple because it is really fast? i am sorry if i got this wrong. i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking. the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be able to function on. if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is not an issue, i would probably have to agree. =:) actually, i have been corrected on a few things. a hacker voluntarily read apple advertising to me. i guess that ppc was 4times faster than intel and now this new thing is 4times faster than ppc. i have no idea how to do the maths with this new information. how long before this fine boxen are overtaking the speed of light itself? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 02:27:42PM -0500, Scott wrote: gimp-composite-sse.c: In function 'gimp_composite_scale_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_sse': gimp-composite-sse.c:786: error: PIC register '%ebx' clobbered in 'asm' make[3]: *** [libcompositesse_a-gimp-composite-sse.o] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 - I then can seem to run a make install, but there is no gimp executable. Only gimp-remote seems to get installed. Can someone perhaps lead me in the right direction with this? recently there was the same problem with mmx. if you run ./configure --help it will tell you how to build without this sse stuff. these are some optimizations that were included by some guy from Sun and seem to be unmaintained lately. if you are using apple products, you probably are not interested in speed so probably building without that stuff will not seem to hurt performance. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 05:27:23PM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: On Friday 10 February 2006 04:46 pm, Michael Schumacher wrote: John R. Culleton wrote: Not at all. I was noting that on two different flavors of linux it is necessary to download and install material beyond that contained in the Gimp download in order to get it to compile. And that wasn't true in prior versions. Um... you're kidding, right? GTK+ Glib libpng libjpeg gcc make ... are also required and not included. All these and Perl are either included in a standard full installation of e.g., Slackware or Debian Sarge, As I stated earler previous editions of Gimp have compiled without difficulty. I have Slackware Current up to date as of yesterday. I have Debian Sarge up to date as of yesterday. I can compile older versions of Gimp. My concern is not so much with 2.3.x but with 2.4. If that stable version requires software bits and pieces not found on most Linux systems and not downloadable from ww.gimp.org then there is trouble ahead. we were discussing this on the irc. XML::Parser is needed by intltool and has been for some time now. my thoughts when you mentioned needing this (additional) software from two different distributions was in trying to figure out how this could have happened. i do not install a lot of the stuff that is needed for one of these all knowing and all responsive desktops. this means i am building things on what many of the users would consider a minimal set up. i wonder if this fact about the way i use my computer combined with the way distributions are separating their packages in a way that might not be apparent from the source web sites -- perhaps there is a dependency check that is not registering somewhere. debian purposely breaks libtool the other way. it insists on seeing software that has been purposely and perfectly placed so it won't build and refusing to build at that point instead of going where it knows (or can easily determine) where to go. they like it that way. they closed my bug report. i can talk you through how to build things on sarge so that you can see what i am talking about. everyone i spoke to about my problem was very nice, btw. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Problems compiling GIMP
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:49:09PM +0100, Axel Wernicke wrote: Am 10.02.2006 um 23:32 schrieb Carol Spears: if you are using apple products, you probably are not interested in speed so probably building without that stuff will not seem to hurt performance. couldn't you've been simply nice and friendly? Since he tries to build GIMP for the new Intel Macs he's proven to care about performance anyway :) could you assume for a moment that i was being nice and friendly? after a while, when people suggest that you are not being nice and not being friendly when you are, you start to wonder if the person suggesting this is being friendly and is being nice. do people run apple because it is really fast? i am sorry if i got this wrong. i thought they run apple because the products are so sealed up and lovely to look at and the fellow users are so united in thinking. the only apple products i have had opportunity to work with are really slow or in need of a huge network of other apples in which to be able to function on. if anyone were to suggest that i am using my computer because speed is not an issue, i would probably have to agree. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
On Sun, Feb 05, 2006 at 08:03:19PM -0700, Alex Feldman wrote: But it seems as if the paths don't just live in one layer. Isn't normally the case than when you do something (like create a path), you do it in the active layer, and then you can not only toggle visibility of whatever you created with the layer eye-cons, but you could delete it by deleting the layer, etc. In other words, the object lived in that layer, and only in that layer. But that doesn't seem to be the case for paths - they don't really live in any layer, you can get rid of the layer which was active when you created it, and the path remains. layers and paths are two different things. the dance floor and the dance steps, perhaps. the dance steps are not limited by the location the same way paths are not limited to a single layer. Please point me to a tutorial or the manual section (I've looked, really) which describes this, or clue me in directly. i haven't seen anything written about this yet. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 09:34:10AM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: I cannot compile the unstable Gimp because of one stupid thing. the ./configure always blows up on this message: checking for perl... /usr/local/bin/perl checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool -- Now I have a standard Slackware distro including Perl. I have files called Parser.pm all over the place. Where do I get the specific Parser.pm that Gimp needs and where do I put it where Gimp can find it? I have asked about this before, but never got an answer. i am using debian sid. i just searched their cache for XML::Parser and from that list i think (if i had your problem) i would install the package called libxml-perl. part of the art of running slackware is to be able to work from information like this? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 07:58:24PM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: On Friday 03 February 2006 02:57 pm, Carol Spears wrote: Now I have a problem with GLIB. Versions up thorugh gimp 2.3.3 don't have the problem.. Versions newer than that complain about an obsolete GLIB. I updated glib to 2.8.2 and now there is a mismatch between what I have and what some program finds. There are lots of clever hints printed out about how to get around the problem, none of which work for me. Fortunately I always have virgin partition laying around to compensate for my own fumbling. I had to move one file around but then 2.3.3 would compile. It still won't compile on my main partition. But bottom line I now have 2.3.3.Newer versions won't compile in either partition. purely from an observers point of view, they try to step together. from glib through gimp. it is all the family of gimp-0.6, i think. unlike living families, a group of software like glib through gimp are dependent on each other. slackware is when you install something and only upgrade when it is convinient, benefical or interesting to you, right? My principal concern is, what happens when 2.4 comes out? Will it require an upgrade to my glib? How much misery grief and woe can I expect? of course you will have to do this. how much of your computer relies on glib? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] One stupid thing
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 05:53:03PM -0800, Tom Williams wrote: I'm also a Slackware user and have the latest glib and gtk+ libraries installed. Feel free to e-mail me if you need help getting everything straightened out. I've had similar problems with other apps and got them resolved once I made sure I had everything installed where I expected them to be as well as the app I was building. :) I've got Gimp 2.2.10 running and Gimp 2.3.6 compiled but not installed since it fails a MMX composite test during make test. does it fail this test if you ./configure --enable-mmx=no ? there is a chance that all of that mmx stuff was just Helvetix showing off. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Batch or Macro with frames
On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 02:57:35PM +0100, Peter Diks wrote: Dear Gimp-Userlist, I am having a good time with Gimp 2.2.9 At the moment i would like to add a Gflare in batch so that i don't have to edit some 200 frames the same way. There is the video plug-in but a macro option or custom batch option is not present, is there? Do you have a way to dramatically shorten my edit-time? i am glad that some body is enjoying it. there is the GIMP Animation Plug-in. you should be able to find information about it at the same place you got your GIMP from. i have an introductory tutorial, it can be found here: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/animation/gap/ while i am certain that apples imovie or any of a number of applications that are available for windows to edit video with have a lot more intuitive gui -- the gap is about as good of a video editor as gimp-1.0 was as a pixel editor. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP is Great
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:27:13PM +0200, Joe Schaffner wrote: My First GIF: http://www.geocities.com/klairbab/alpha.gif i think you will find that the lines of the elipse are smoother if you flatten the image first and then save. i am curious, when you made the image, did you see an Export Dialog? if export is indexing first and then flattening, it should be changed It looks like I can select the layer using the Layer dialog and move the entire layer to position the text. I'll try that tomorrow. That would be easier than cutting and pasting regions on the drawing surface, like you do with mspaint, but I got pretty good at it. What bothered me was moving the edges of the layer off screen. I don't like surprises. that quality can become useful. there is a difference between canvas size and image size. if at any moment you are extremely uncomfortable with some of the image stuff not being in view in the image area, simply Image/Canvas to image size (or something like that in the menu). Moving the Text boxes around was a breeze. I just made sure the ? layer was current (must be Background in English). Then I chose the Move tool and simply moved the cursor, slowly, over the text. A little hand appeared, which I clicked, and got the Move icon again. The scope was clear, and I could position the text inside the ellipses, no problem. I didn't even need to consider the layers. if you work with it more, the relationship between the move tool and the layers will become more familar. the text tool has several options, one of them is a reset. please use the reset button and then be careful of which font you choose. the free software tends to show you all of your computer fonts. not all of those fonts were made for decorative image making. Ok, I'll remember that, the reset button... The font I'm using is the TTF Times New Roman I took off a Windows system. I chose 14 pt. but the .xcf came out a little small. Looks more like 8 pt. The gif actually compares well with the browser, just a little smaller than expected. The rasterization process must be the same (of course). my advice about the reset button was a way for me to avoid discussing anti-aliasing and auto-hinting and fixing your tool options via email. all of these things matter when rendering text with gimp. also, my advice was about how to fix not smooth text (this part of the original mail has been edited out). if your image is being indexed before it is flattened, as i mentioned earlier, it would cause the problems that you had described in your original mail. Hey! I couldn't find any grid. View/Grid Sorry about that. I found the Grid, no problem. I have a Greek desktop and I overlooked it. the original question for this was that you had a grid but it did not seem to do anything. there is a difference in grids in GIMP. one kind is painted on and the other kind is part of GIMPs memory about the image area. I noticed one of the layers had a grid-like background, don't know how it got there, and I couldn't make it do anything with it, so I gave up. it is also possible to paint a grid onto a layer. Filters/Render/Patterns/Grid, perhaps you did this. What is that checkerboard pattern? paint trick. adrian likins wrote it, i think. How would I go about creating an mspaint user interface for the gimp? i would start by seeing if you can get it to compile on windows first. then ask again for instructions here. No need to do that... Gimp just as easy as mspaint after all. If mspaint is a paint program, then gimp is too, only better. Can I do it with your scheme interpreter? you would have to answer this yourself. No, I don't think so... If your Scheme is anything like AutoLisp it can only be used in the application domain, to automate the drawing process, like a macro language. I don't expect I can put new buttons in the tool box. Hm, maybe I can.. it is not my scheme! no way. personally, i don't think scheme should be here. windows95 and windowsNT are basically scheme engines, aren't they? I was thinking I'd probably need a programming language, like C, and your plug-in interface, to extend gimp, but I still don't know what you consider a plug-in, hm, transformers for other file formats? are you looking at information online or at the source code while you think about all of this? i wonder even if mspaint is a scheme thing using libgimp. there is no way of knowing what the heck ms did to make software! Wouldn't that be funny, if MS ripped you off. You wouldn't be the first victim. there is a lot of power in not wanting to take the blame for something. i don't think that any of the gimp developers past or present want to take the blame for MS software. so, no -- it wouldn't be funny. Curious thing, AutoCad also has a Lisp interface, which none of my architect friends can use.
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP is Great
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:13:08PM +0200, Joe Schaffner wrote: Fun with email. some times email is fun. Just curious, are you a Gimp user, a graphical designer, a programmer, do you work for gimp.org, or all of the above? loyal hobbiest? i actually do not want to define myself. it feels like everytime i have done this in my life, someone has shown up to replace me who is far more qualified to do my job than me -- and sometimes more capable. you can learn a lot about a piece of software if you make a web site to describe it. you can learn a lot about a community when your project is overtaken at about the same time your life is. i would be the gimp developer who is intelligent enough to go on record as needing to be paid to watch television. i wouldn't mind keeping this job and i think i could add a few more tasks to my day without affecting the quality of my television scrutiny. it is honestly not as easy of a task as you might think. personally, i don't think scheme should be here. windows95 and windowsNT are basically scheme engines, aren't they? The Scheme I'm talking about was/is a dialect of Common Lisp, so I don't know what you mean by scheme engine. i am using a word that i don't completely understand. gimp has a built in scheme console and also a browser that searches the API. api means Application Programming Interface. i studied mathematics so i would consider gimp script-fu to be a subset of Lisp. I read the Gimp documentation online very quickly, and I associated your Script-Fu dialog with a Lisp interpreter. I must have seen some example. there are sample script-fu on your computer somewhere. Since both Gimp and AutoCad have a lisp interface, and since they are both graphics programs, I thought maybe the same people worked on the. They seem to share the same interests. Me, I like Lisp, but non programmers are usually intimidated by all the parenthesses ((())) is a valid lisp expression. i have looked at it. what bothered me about the syntax is that it did not resemble the languages i had learned. I was thinking I'd probably need a programming language, like C, and your plug-in interface, to extend gimp, but I still don't know what you consider a plug-in, hm, transformers for other file formats? are you looking at information online or at the source code while you think about all of this? Just the documentation. i write in python. i am unbelievably picky. you are welcome. it would actually be helpful if you explained what steps you took to make that image. it could/should have been better. I couldn't even begin to remember what I did, because I made alot of mistakes. A couple times Gimp seemed to get confused and the move operations didn't move but copy the figures, so I would quit and reopen the drawing. Image/Edit/Undo or Toolbox/Dialogs/Undo this is functionality that gimp had before many of the other applications. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Paths dialog
On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 09:17:19PM -0700, Alex Feldman wrote: That is, it was useful until I got to section 3.4, The Paths Dialog. Now nothing seems to work. the pathtool is probably the most changed tool since gimp-1.2. personally, i would have a difficult time writing how to use the new pathtool. after you work with it for a while, it just seems to start to work. To begin with, the first line in the section reads: Because Bezier paths are so useful, there is a special Paths dialog that allows multiple Bezier paths to be edited, managed, and saved. So to begin with I draw a Bezier path with the path tool, and save the file. Then I reopen it, and no path. I mucked around looking for it, but I couldn't find it hiding anywhere. I tried it again and the same thing happened, both files were the same size. I tried opening an image window and doing nothing, and saving it, and it was smaller than one were I tried to save the Bezier path. There was no undo history in either file, I used the xcf format to save. which version of gimp are you using? gimp only saves its history per session. quit cleans that out. one way that the gimp-2 paths dialog changed is that the paths now work the same way layers do. you can toggle them to be viewable or not, you can export them as svg. i found it more confusing (after the switch) because you can make the paths visible even when the path tool is not active. I then tried a number of other things suggested in the book, including writing the path on one layer, and then toggling visibility (which is what I really was interested in) by clicking on the eye-cons in the layers dialog. I could go into detail about what did happen, but I have a feeling that any number of people know what I was doing wrong at this point, and could fill me in (no pun intended). i don't know how up to date grokking is with the new pathtool. One last thing - if after I have made a path, I change tools, the path disappears, never to return, even if I change back to the path tool. But the path operations remain in the undo history - so I can remove the anchors that I can't see, or put them back. Alas, putting them back doesn't make them visible. So where can learn about all this? Oh, I have looked in the online manual, and it seemed rather terse on the subject. none of these things should have happened. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] working with scanned pics: how to individually chop up pics
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 11:23:04AM +0900, Jeff C wrote: Carol wrote: your belief will not make this to be the truth. rotating that image will lose some of the quality of the original -- no matter what the application you use! Ok. So does lossless rotation apply only to rotations of every 90 degrees, then? it makes sense, doesn't it? i have some experience with this. one nicely aligned image per scan takes much less time than many images per scan -- unless you have time restricted access to the scanner or concerns about the amount of electricity you are using. even with careful alignment you might need to rotate. the loss isn't necessarily in the image matter -- it is really in the time it takes to do all of the pixel adjustments. you edited this portion out of that original email though carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] python, plugins and interfaces
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:59:57PM +0100, Vincent Paeder wrote: Thanks for your answer. I did have a look, but I'm not sure we mean the same thing. Anyway, I got a second problem which may be more compromising than the absence of user interface. That is, my tool stores pictures as gdk pixbufs, and I'd like to send them to an arbitrary gimp plugin to be treated. Can I do that somehow? i suggest that you first read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post then understand that most of the people on the gtk+ list do not like top-posting from email and then ask that (and your other questions like this) on that list. i can find the url to subscribe if you need for me to. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: GIMP is Great
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0200, Joe Schaffner wrote: What exactly is a layer? A drawing is made up of layers. Why? Each layer has attributes which are combined to produce a total visual effect. This means you can add and subtract layers, join them, etc. Some of these attributes must be the fuzzing, shadowing, smearing, etc the artsy stuff, which a newbie like me would not be interested in. A layer can be transparent. Perfect. When I create a text box I must also be creating a layer. making masks and manipulating the transparency of each layer is the only thing missing from this nice answer to your own question. Do I move the whole layer? It looks like I can select the layer using the Layer dialog and move the entire layer to position the text. I'll try that tomorrow. That would be easier than cutting and pasting regions on the drawing surface, like you do with mspaint, but I got pretty good at it. What bothered me was moving the edges of the layer off screen. I don't like surprises. that quality can become useful. there is a difference between canvas size and image size. if at any moment you are extremely uncomfortable with some of the image stuff not being in view in the image area, simply Image/Canvas to image size (or something like that in the menu). Hey! I couldn't find any grid. View/Grid you can adjust the size of the grid via the preferences. I'm used to drawing on a gridded surface. I need the grid to line up components and I can't do that using the rulers on the edges of the drawing surface, and the measuring tools have a learning curve... These learning curves are cumulative. I noticed one of the layers had a grid like background, don't know how it got there, and I couldn't make it do anything with it, so I gave up. it is also possible to paint a grid onto a layer. Filters/Render/Patterns/Grid, perhaps you did this. also, if you drag the mouse from the rulers you can get a guide. Do I select an object by selecting the layer? To be honest, I was expecting to be able to point at an object and select it by simply clicking, but it was much more complicated than that, and I wasn't sure exactly what a selection tool was or a path. the gimp has an understanding of too many objects. perhaps you want all instance of a color, maybe you would like all continuous instance of a color. perhaps you want all the image area outside of a path that you have not shown to gimp yet. it is more complex than what you are used to. There was something called a moving selection layer or something. I don't know how I got it, but it had something to do with the selection tools, or the move button, which also was highly context-sensitive, so I couldn't do much with that either. floating selections. much controversy. if you use gimp often, you will understand how it works. Does it make sense to draw inside a text object? I can edit the letters in the text box. Boy was the font quality crappy, much worse than the browser. You must not be using the same font transformation the rest of the world is. the text tool has several options, one of them is a reset. please use the reset button and then be careful of which font you choose. the free software tends to show you all of your computer fonts. not all of those fonts were made for decorative image making. please do not be frightened about this new glimpse into your computer. those system fonts actually (occasionally) make nice button images because they do work at lower resolutions. I wonder if I can create layers inside a text box too, which also have graphics, like lines and circles... no. the text layer is a special layer. if you save your work as xcf, gimp should be able to access the text and the font if it is still available to it where you open it. you can do all of those things on layers around it. tranforming the text layer in any way beyond moving it will make it be a paint layer with no text memory other than the shape. Is it an object at all? I suppose, a layer is an object, but my figures do not look much like objects, I mean I cannot create them as objects, give them names, make them into components, like an arrow, with a head and tail, then instantiate the object. Of course, you'd have to do this with a svg program, but I couldn't tell what gimp was just by looking at it. There sure are alot of windows. How would I go about creating an mspaint user interface for the gimp? i would start by seeing if you can get it to compile on windows first. then ask again for instructions here. Can I do it with your scheme interpreter? you would have to answer this yourself. i wonder even if mspaint is a scheme thing using libgimp. there is no way of knowing what the heck ms did to make software! Curious thing, AutoCad also has a Lisp interface, which none of my architect friends can use. Who inspired who? meanwhile, ICQ claims all .scm (i
Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing Brush Strokes
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 05:56:56PM -0600, Matthew Whitlock wrote: When I do a quick mark with any brush (be it a pen, pencil, airbrush, paint brush, etc.) the line becomes facetted. I know in photoshop that this happens too, but there is a check box that applies a smoothing to the line. Is there something similar to that in GIMP? Work around? Also are there any keyboard shortcuts to adjusting brush size? I searched the documentation, but didn't find anything that addressed these to issues. *prays he isn't RTFM-ed* make sure that the image is not indexed. Image/Mode/RGB carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP is Great
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 09:19:47PM +0200, Joe Schaffner wrote: I know Microsoft Paint pretty well, so you can imagine my surprise when I opened up gimp. It looks like a paint program but it's not. I discovered I can draw ellipses and rectangles by selecting a path then stroking the path. there is a difference between selections and paths. there are also two dialogs: Dialogs/Selection Editor and Dialogs/Paths Pretty neat. But I'm having a hell of a time selecting and moving objects around. It looks like each Text object is being placed its own layer. Dialogs/Layers gimp displays paths and layers similarly (in a stack) and the same transformation tools work on them but they are not the same sort of information. paths are points and shaped segments and layers are made up of pixels. What exactly is a layer? Do I select an object by selecting the layer? Do I move the whole layer? Does it make sense to draw inside a text object? Is it an object at all? most of these questions can be answered by working through a tutorial in the beginners section of the tutorials at www.gimp.org All I need is a monocrome gif, but it would be nice if the resulting drawing were scalable, one which would grow and shrink if the user zooms in using the browser. Does gimp do that? scalable gif? no. gimp doesn't make scalable gif. does mspaint make them? I have friends who use AutoCad and are always talking about scalable, vector graphics. AutoCad also uses layers, but I've forgotten exactly what the were. i am pretty sure that AutoCad is not making a scalable gif. it would be scaling a file and converting it at the last minute to be a gif. the closest thing gimp has to AutoCad dynamics are the paths. you can make and edit paths with the pathtool and further manipulate them with the paths dialog. i have a script that adds some further editing ability to them http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/scripting/paths.html Can you help? you seem to be doing fairly well on your own. skip my web site if you are not using at least a gimp-2.3.5 carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Uninstaller?
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 01:22:36PM -0600, Bell wrote: I am straight up a novice, I don't like the fact that now that I have The Gimp installed, it took over any and all image folders, and will only open them in Gimp. I do not want my windows folders, or other program folders to be ran automatically through Gimp. Please help. Also, if I uninstall Gimp, will the images that it commandeered be lost, or will they go back where they should be with their ME givenname? i think you can change that behaviour by setting something in that windows manager thing -- i can't remember the name of it now. Display Manager? it has been a while since i used windows, but they set it up so that you can tell it which application to use to open different kinds of files. as far as removing it goes -- the gimp i use only knows where the images it has touched are on my desktop. it scans only its own resources on start up and does not attach itself to any of your images. you can remove it cleanly and quickly that way. i am curious, during the instalation process, did you agree to have gimp manage all of your images? your problems are due to your initial conversation with the installer i think and not with gimp itself. i am sorry it was not a nicer experience for you. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] python, plugins and interfaces
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 09:08:58PM +0100, PAEDER Vincent wrote: hello everybody, is it possible to open the plugin interface with a python command? My goal would be to run gimp in batch mode from the command line (from another python script actually) and still be able to configure the plugin I invoke with the interactive interface. For now, I can launch gimp and call a dedicated plugin which communicates with the main application through a socket. I can obtain the list of installed plugins along with their detailed properties, thus I could rebuild an appropriate interface. But it would be great if I didn't have to. Does anyone have a suggestion? i actually put something about that on my web site, i forget where though: http://carol.gimp.org/gimp/scripting/ carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] text bending
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 07:06:21AM -0800, Simon Roberts wrote: --- Vytautas Povilaitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to bend lines of text or just stripes in GIMP? I need to make text go around a circle. I'm a newbie with the GIMP, but you can do that in OpenOffice Draw which is more of a design and create type tool, while the GIMP seems to me to be more about retouching, curve correction, and the like. interesting. i would like to know if Vytautas Povilaitis had open office installed and i would also like to know what other graphics this office software can draw. it is nice to have volunteers from the other apps show up to point out their software here, we don't get near enough of it. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] text bending
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 04:55:28PM +0200, Vytautas Povilaitis wrote: Is there a way to bend lines of text or just stripes in GIMP? I need to make text go around a circle. Toolbox/Xtns/Script-fu/Logos/Text Circle for gimp-2.2 Toolbox/Xtns/Logos/Text Circle for gimp-2.3 also, gimp-2.3 has a text to path option in the text tool options and all gimps since gimp-1.2 have Image/Filters/Distorts/CurveBend carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
