Re: perlotine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-02-12 at 2016.25 -0500): > The perl scripts only show up when configure is certain that you have > the PDL and it knows where it is. I would run configure again and watch > it. My 1.2.1 has it. I'll bet that this is your problem. I do not have PDL, I have Perlotine. You can have Perl without some extensions, you just get less plugins. GSR
Re: magnifying tool
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-02-02 at 1324.11 -0500): > How do I get back to the regular size after using the magnifier on an > image? That is to say, what is the gimp equivalent of double clicking on > the hand in PhotoShop? No idea of PS method, but in Gimp you can press Ctrl while using the Mag tool to zoom out, or change zoom via menus or keycombos ( / View / Zoom In | Zoom Out | Zoom / ). I personally use º for Zoom In, Ctrl + º for Zoom Out, 1 for Zoom / 1:1, 2 .. 5 for Zoom / 2:1 .. 16:1, and Ctrl + 2 .. 5 for Zoom / 1:2 .. 1:16. My keyboard has º near the 1, the = does not work (it is Shift + 0, as in most European kbd I believe) and - is far, so using the first six keys of that row alone or with Ctrl is the best for me and easy to remember (keys alone mean bigger, keys with Ctrl mean smaller size on screen). GSR
Re: Levels histogram: gimp vs photoshop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-17 at 1826.24 -0500): > She is used to the strong commercial software claims. Tor's humble > presentation of wingimp was misunderstood. Meanwhile, the FrontPage > support guy yelled at her for using a directory system on her website. > "Why do you have folders within folders?" The American Dream is -i > think- to get what you pay for. It has turned into that you pay for the > only thing that there is. Dirs can have files and dirs inside... it seems recursion is hard to understand. I wonder what that guy will think of symlinks. :] GSR
Re: Levels histogram: gimp vs photoshop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-17 at 1700.24 -0500): > She compared the gimps histogram with adopees and they were very > different. Unfortunately, she doesn't know how to get a screenshot from > her powerfully expensive program so I am unable to make the same visual > comparison. Windows version? IIRC hit Print Screen key, then Paste in a graphics program (like PS, maybe even there is a "Paste from clipboard as new image"). > It seems to me like the histograms should be the same, regardless of the > program. Is this a wrong expectation? Maybe they count in different way. Or data scaling. You should try gimp-devel for that. :] GSR
Re: Multiple gimp installs?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-15 at 1219.44 -0800): > I get the idea that it is possible to have more than one version of the gimp > installed at the same time. If one has .gimp, .gimp-1.1, and .gimp-1.2 in > their home directory, as I have, and finding the same thing elsewhere in > /usr/*, it suggests that it would be relatively easy to have more than one > version installed at the same time, providing that there are not more than > one patch level of each version. The binaries will cause some problems, you will have to rename them, it seems. Never tried that way. > Is this so? I might like to keep the 1.2 as a 'user' and try my hand with > the 1.3 when it starts coming out. If this is possible, I would like to > know how to set this up successfully! I have both, I just uninstall and install to change from one to another, and all works nicely. It takes a few secs, but all is cleanly kept. I use this technique to test Gimp 1.2 and 1.3 at the same time. If for A reason something really breaks, I just have to repeat the process and go back to the versions that works (1.2 normally). GSR
Re: Anyway to change ~/.gimp-1.2 name?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-15 at 1148.59 +0100): > I asked the wise sven, he says it's a no-go. only thing you can do is > create a link. > bex He can recompile and change that in ./configure. IIRC I did it with Gimp 1.1.7 or so to separate form the rest. But I do not see the reason to avoid .gimp-1.2 if you are using Gimp 1.2. I can say based in my admin experience that it nicer that having guys saying "Hey, I have seen you have upadted Foo app, but now it gives a lot of errors on load" and realize the problem is due uncompatibility with the old config. BTW, the mix of multiple Gimp versions I have been fixing it via unistall and install. Takes a few secs if you have everything compiled, and I do it only after updateing CVS (to test new features / bug fixes), so no big problem (I have to compile anyway), and easier than renaming. GSR
Re: Got a working Gimp 1.2-Thanks & Q
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-14 at 1945.45 +0100): > The Xemian gimp 1.2 seems to have done the trick. It does go in as > ~/.gimp-1.2. Is this particular to the new gimp or this build? Any way > to get an old generic .gimp (I moved my earlier one so as to avoid just > this). Gimp uses dirs with version so you can mix installs or it does not crash after a big update (some config items are not compatible). After getting "nice" cores with other apps, I think Gimp way is good, you can always move one item at a time, or edit by hand to match your old config (I did). GSR
Re: Q: Recommended graphics cards?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-13 at 1502.58 -0600): > > What would one consider with the Gimp, and not games, in mind? > > What card and what amount of ram? > I would first look at the www.xfree86.org web site, and make >sure that any graphics card I choose if supported by XFree86 >drivers AND NOT MANUFACTURERS DRIVERS! Aside from blowing the whole >concept of "open software", you never know when a manufacturer will >decide "this isn't worth it", and bail on you. Interesting advice. Drivers until there are users. :] > Once you have a list of cards in mind, I woud choose the one >with the highest RAMDAC (clock speed) and memory your budget allows. >Matrox cards and Riva TNT based cards seem to be well supported, >if you are looking for specific recommendations. ATI are nice too, I had one, good 2D, and new models are supported cos ATI pays coders, and the code goes into XFree (I have been thinking about getting one again, ATI cares, and this way support will last longer). Matrox is good too (using one now) and they follow the same strategy, get somebody to do open source drivers, so people see you (the company) like the system (XFree and source), which does not mean sell less. BTW, nVidia drivers are company provided (if you want 3D, I believe, for 2D you can use XFree86... but should check that). GSR
Re: session managment?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-13 at 2200.57 +0100): > So what must I do to get it working? Check that in " / Preferences / Session / Window Positions" you have "Save Window Positions on Exit" and "Always Try to Restore Session" set. And check that FVWM2 has "UsePPosition" instead of "NoPPosition" in Gimp's windows "Style"s (IIRC, cos I have not used FVWM2 for some time, so it may need some extra settings). GSR
Re: session managment?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-13 at 2031.47 +0100): > > > manager. So decission chain from who has more power to less is X -> wm > > > -> app. If you save position with window manager, then app will be > > > unable to put window where it wants (and similar for size, colors and > > > other things). > > Ok, so this is a problem of fvwm2? > No, this is a problem of configuration. I know no window manager which > enforces it's own placement unless the user requests it. Are we sure the user has not saved positions with the wm or set the window manager to ignore app requested positions? Active save and active / passive config set (default config are not what one expect sometimes) are reasons to see that. So the person with problems has to check Gimp config and wm config. GSR
Re: session managment?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-13 at 1956.08 +0100): > > I am pretty sure that the window manager can override the gimps windows. > > When my gimp window problems irritate me enough, that's where I am going > > to start, with the window manager. > No, I think not. Gimp should be able to place the windows itself. That > just some kind of geometry setting, isn't it? IIRC window manager can force anything into apps, and X into window manager. So decission chain from who has more power to less is X -> wm -> app. If you save position with window manager, then app will be unable to put window where it wants (and similar for size, colors and other things). GSR
Re: Smoothing gradient Q...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-12 at 1746.52 +0100): > Rebecca J. Walter wrote: > > save the image and email it to me and i will takea peek later and tell > > you how it looks. > Ok. thanks. I had a thought though. I remmeber the original didn't have > that. Could it be the format I'm saving in, namely jpg? After all, the > problem appears after I've saved it and put it up for background? Uumm, eeeh... GIF, JPG and many other formats are like working in 16 bit screen. Use PNG if you want compression but keep colors nicely. This thing is becoming boring (sorry but day after day the lossy compression thing appears... is there not a FAQ somewhere or what?). > What is the best file type to use? For what task? Desktop bg? Web? Printing? Each job has a tool (or more than one, but please do not hammer nails with the polisher machine). > And is there a file type that can > keep work in progress? ie Five layers open for editing later? Gimp native format is .xcf.bz2, .xcf.gz or .xcf (aka .xcf compressed or not). IMHO .xcf.bz2 if your machine is fast, .xcf.gz if not, .xcf if you want to waste HD. GSR
Re: Smoothing gradient Q...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-12 at 1331.22 +0100): > I'm doing a left to right gradient, dark blue to black so that a narrow > 2 inch bank of blue apperas before fading into black. the problme is > that the band has uneven bars of various hue there. I tried Blur to > smooth it out, and adding another deeper colored layer, etc. No go. How > can I smooth this out? First, make sure you are not running in 16 bit (you should use 24 bit, or 32=24+8). Second, check that your monitor is adjusted and not damaged, it could be a hardware problem. Third, even after some people say that 24 bit is enough, sometimes is not enough (some people are more sensible, and some situations push that to the limits). GSR
Re: Making Transparent from Non-Transparent
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-12 at 1333.33 +0100): > Second big question is I have a lot of old logos Istored on a black > background. Is there a way of turning the black transparent so that I > can drop the logos on to a new background? There is a colour to alpha plugin, IIRC. Sometimes it needs some manual help, but it is a start. > I've looked in my small book but it doesn't cut. Another PS would be > what are the best books? The Gimp Manual and Grokking The Gimp? Yep, good books. GSR
Re: GIMP - As seen on eBay!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-10 at 2109.18 -0700): > Better than Photoshop 6!!! The auction proclaims. > Someone is offering a GIMP CD for $25 on eBay! AND getting bids!! > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1206818027 IIRC there was a official CD (Gimp 1.0). Maybe it is that, and thus a collectors item. Otherwise it is weird (well, the PS6 part is weird, cos CMYK is not supported in Gimp at this moment). GSR
Re: Repost: messed up screenshots
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-10 at 1859.01 -0500): > > > The fact remains, though. Switching color depth solved my problem. > > I'm running 16-bit as well with no problems with screen captures. How > > much memory does your video card have? What are you running your > > desktop at? Might you be running out of video memory? > 4Mb, with 1024x768. But one would expect that even more memory would > be needed for 32-bit mode, since twice as much space is required for > each bit. You can also try 24 bit. And with 4 MB you can run 1024 @ 32 bpp, even 1152 @ 32 bpp. I ran my old ATI at 1152 * 864 and it had 4 MB too (I can not remember if I used 24 or 32, but doing the maths 4 MB are enough in both cases, the difference is in free space for pixmap cache and other tasks). > The video card is Diamond Viper 330 (NVidia-128 chip), with SVGA > X-server, X11 3.3.6. Old chip and nVidia. :[ GSR
Re: gimp fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-04 at 2122.33 +0200): > How to change the fonts of the gimp menus? Via .gtkrc or .gtkrc.mine or one of the multiple tools that allow you to change GTK+ config, like the GNOME Control Center. Also some themes change the default font. You should visit http://www.gtk.org/ and http://gtk.themes.org/ for more info. GSR
Re: Gimp in a different language?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-04 at 1949.23 +0100): > Is it possible to have Gimp in a different language? Yes. > I didn't find anything about that! Did I oversee something? Before launching Gimp set the LC_* & LANG enviro vars. Lot of apps (under Unix systems, at least) use this method. Read the setlocale man page. GSR
Re: collage of pictures
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-12-26 at 2229.53 -0500): > I am wanting to create a collage of pictures for a website. But I want > the transitions between the pictures to be smooth and not merely one > image overlaping another. Does anyone have sugguestions? The book Grokking the Gimp (or the on line version located at http://gimp-savvy.com/) has exercices about that. Try it. GSR
Re: Clean Filter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-12-21 at 1449.47 +0100): > I would like to know if it exists a filter or any other way to remove pen > traces from my pictures...I have a picture that was signatured and I want to > remove automagically this signature... Resythesize maybe. Other options are to do it by hand with some tools, like airbrush or pen, but specialy clone. GSR
Re: add - subtract
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-12-06 at 1938.46 +): > about 'adding' and 'subtracting' one layer from another: Layer modes? Put one layer directly over another in the stack (L, C & P dialog) and change the mode of the top one, then merge them (merge down is enough, IIRC). GSR
Re: change text color
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-29 at 2310.49 -0500): > >I have a simple image. Layer 1 is a background, layer 2 is some text > >that is black. How can I easily change the color of this text once it's > >been committed to the layer? > I prefer using the Curves dialogue. This way you get to keep your > antialiasing, and you don't need to worry about masks ans such. > There is probably a way that's even simpler, but I've found the > curves dialogue usefull in lots of other areas, so I'm used to it. What about click keep transparency for layer 2, select all, fill with desired color the layer 2? GSR
Re: Auto Image resizing on webserver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-23 at 1145.45 +0530): > I am working on a web project where the users will be uploading GIF,JPG > like images. The problem is that all such uploads will have to be > resized on the server. The server is Win2000/ASP+PERL. I have heard gimp No comments. > capable of batch processing or similar tasks. So how can I use gimp to > do such automatic taks at the server (if it is possible). Use ImageMagick better. GSR
Re: GIMP in the prompt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-23 at 1824.19 -0200): > Hi, > I'm a linux user and I'm starting to use GIMP. I want to know if I can use > GIMP to convert jpeg images to 16 colors gif format, from the prompt, using > something like : > > gimp -colors 16 image.jpg image.gif Use ImageMagick better. GSR
Re: Alignment of objects?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-23 at 1432.35 +0100): > BTW, with your method I can get to circles who start at the > same spot, but I like to have two circles, that have theire > center exactly at the same spot, where the center of my whole > image is, any idea? Aah, concentric circles! Put the two gides so they cross where you want the center. Put mouse pointer near and drag, then hit ctrl + shift and you get perfect circles centered where you started dragging (ctrl is for center, shift for perfect circles). The order is really important: keep down mouse button, press and hold keys, move until desired size, release mouse then keys. GSR
Re: Alignment of objects?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-22 at 1321.28 +0100): > Please give my some hints, or URL's The tool you need is / Layers / Align visible layers. GSR
Re: Newbie question: Transparent gradient
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-11-13 at 1629.40 -0700): > I have a small layer sitting on top of the stack. I would like to > "fade" the image contained in that layer, left to right, so that one > side (the right side) is completely opaque and the other side (the, > er, left side, I guess) is completely transparent. I think what you need is a layer mask. It the appears as another thumbnail near the layer it is attached too. It works as a gray image, deciding what is trasparent and what not. Search the docs about how to use layer masks, or Grokking the Gimp site, it is a tech used a lot for logos and compositions. GSR
Re: Versions?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-31 at 0517.29 -0800): > most recent stable version. What version is used in the book? Oddly, it > doesn't seem to say. The 1.1 avaliable in Summer 1999 or so. If you get the latest 1.1, or 1.2 when avaliable, you should get all you see in the book. The book was target to cover future, not become obsolete in months. GSR
Re: Pdf, eps, ps? (Was: xcf --> eps)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-17 at 1813.20 +0200): > > http://sketch.sourceforge.net/ > Yes, but now I remember why I never got to install sketch. It's a mess to > get to work! I requires python (no worries, I have that), but also PIL, > some python-library to work with images. I couldn't get PIL to compile > properly, and at least didn't immeadeately find a binary package of it, so > sketch fell on that too... > > Too bad. Anyone can guide me? I compiled PIL some time ago without problems. But dunno what can go wrong with your machine. OTOH, I have heard about an app named Sodipodi (or similar) that is GTK+ (GNOME?) based, and that does vector drawings. Maybe you could give it a try. GSR
Re: Colorpicker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-16 at 1207.33 +0200): > Is there really no way of using the colorpicker (like when pressing alt > when using the airbrush) but make it pick the physical color on the [...] Choose the picker tool, then open the tool dialog, select "Sample merged" and you are done. I dunno if it works when used with other tools (via key), but when you select picker as main tool, it works perfectly. GSR
Re: Font Question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-15 at 1454.53 -0700): > Hello, Group: Enjoy your productive and helpful list, tremendously. I am [...] > I'm running RH6.2, Linux box PIII 550, The Gimp. Thanks, Tom Are you trying to confuse me or what? Your mail is a mess... so I guess you had a bad day with fonts. Do you want to know where all fonts are located? Read the files /etc/X11/XF86Config and /etc/X11/fs/config (in RH the first says "use font server" and the second is the font server config, but check both) to see what dirs are used to load fonts from. In all that dirs, there should be a file named fonts.dir that maps the file names to the font used by X. To handle fonts you have to use mkfontdir (all fonts except TTF) and ttmkfdir (TTF fonts). But restarting the fonts server takes care of that if he detects a file newer than the fonts.dir (RH). So to add or modify fonts, put all the new ones in a new directory, better if you separate by classes (TTF from FooCD, Type1 downloaded from bar.com, etc), and restart the font server. Next time you use Gimp the new ones should be listed. If not using a font server, use xset to reconfig the font dirs (add new dirs and reload database). If that is not what you want, please specify... after calming down. :] GSR
Re: Art pads
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-14 at 0047.27 +0200): > I see your point. How big are they? And how expensive? They are the advertised size of active area plus 5 - 14 cm of inactive area in each direction. For example my A5 has an active area of about 21 * 17, but the total size is about 33 * 24 cm. All are about 1.5 cm thick (dunno about the LCD model). In the maker's site they should have all the specs. From what I remember, the smallest Wacom model was A5 total, A6 active. And the next up, A4, was just a bit bigger than an A4: the inactive area is more or less constant. The pen is a normal plastic one... a bit light for my tastes (I use a heavy tech pen daily ;] ). You can also get a "mouse" for the tablet, and in latest models, the avaliable pens are more than what you will need for normal tasks. Trick: if you want to feel "paper" instead of "plastic" you can put a paper over the tablet and keep on drawing. It can damage the tip faster, but they are easily replaceable. > Are they something you just go out and buy, just to try it > out, or.. ? No, I would not say that you should buy one just for fun. But seeing that some guys are capable of risking a full computer to try liquid N2 or other coolants... who knows. ;P If you could give it a try at the shop or friend's computer, do it, I got one after playing with one in a DTP shop I know. [free hand vectors] > Ok. I was thinking perhaps there was an option in the Gfig > I'd overseen. I think there is no such option in GFig. But Gimp uses pressure (and tilt?) to modify things like opacity and size (user decides what). And IIRC, the idea about behaving like other applications has been discussed for 2.0. So maybe someday. GSR
Re: Art pads
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-13 at 1338.15 +0200):
> > I just wish I could afford one right now. 8-{
> Are they any good? I mean, woudln't it any time be better
> to just draw on paper and scan it?
Do you have an airbrush (the real ones, with compressor, needle,
paint, etc)? Can you smear an ink drawing? Clone parts of an image in
paper? Erase thounsand of times without damaging the paper? That are
some reasons to use a tablet.
Scanners and tablets are compatible, complementary. Some things can
not be done with the other. And using a drawing / photo retouching
program with a pen instead of a "brick" is quite comfortable. They are
more expensive than a mouse, but they also help more.
> As far as I know, gimp doesn't do free-hand vector-drawings?
Nope, only bitmap operations.
GSR
Re: Art pads
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-12 at 1101.38 -0400): > Is there any art pads than can be used with linux and gimp? Do you mean pen tablets? The XFree supported ones, like Wacom, for example. Read XFree docs to get the full list. I have a "old" A5 Wacom and works great, other Gimp users also have similar tablets, based in comments seen in this list. GSR
Re: Simple Text with shadow as transparent gif impossible?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-11 at 0915.09 -0400): > >What did I wrong? How can I create a showed text stored in a tranparent > >gif where only the Text and the shadow should be visisble. > gif only supports one bit alpha, as you figured out. If you want a picture > with 256 bit alpha, use png. Note that support for this on web browsers is > not very good (IE and mozilla support it fine), but it is the only way that IIRC current implementations did not support full alpha PNG. Maybe they have changed lately. I know they can view simple PNGs, but I can not talk about "exotic" PNGs (I still smile when I remember an app I had that loaded RGBA PNGs as CMYK). > I know of to do it. Conversly, you could flatten the image and delete just > the background (leaving a light hue around the text), but then why even use > a transparent gif? There are some tools to add some "border" to the text, so you still get transparency and the page background is visible, but the text borders are smooth and you can have shadows. Look for Perl based Prepare for gif (prep4gif) under Filters > Web, and for binary Semiflatten under Filter > Colors. They do the work for you pretty fine and you get a nice 50% / 50% solution. GSR
Re: stamp text
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-09 at 1147.41 +0200):
> Is there a script/plugin to make "stamps" ("eroded" text in circle, like a
> stamp)
Do you mean text along a circle? Xtns > Script-fu > Logos > Text
circle.
If you mean rough shapes, try applying a spread and some blurs to the
text, and a displace with solid noise as map info, so you get a
deformed aproximation of the original text (the displace gives a "not
flat paper" look). You may need to play with levels to get the final
result.
GSR
Re: xcf --> eps
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-07 at 2309.59 +0400): > I need to convert gimp's native xcf picture into EPS (Encapsulated > Postscript) format. How can I do this? (Save As... dialog > have no EPS choice). May be I should get a plugin (where?). Type filename.eps, the PostScript dialog appears, with Encapsulated option checked. Easy. After all, EPS is a type of PS, no? > What other program may I use for that purpose? I think none directly, XCF is Gimp's format. Maybe in the future, but I know none now (I have heard of people interested in coding XCF loader / savers, but that was a few months ago and required license changes, so I doubt they will have a viable solution today, or to be precisse more viable than Gimp). GSR
Gimp Perl docs
Hi: Can anybody recommend me interesting docs about Gimp - Perl? Other than the distributed example, and tutorials if possible. I have found some but they seem to be old, and I would like to know which ones people find more useful than the rest. Thanks in advance. GSR
Re: Gimp and Epson 1200 printer?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-04 at 1617.01 +0200): > Does anybody know if there is a driver for a Epson Syslus Photo 1200 > printer? I´ve seen some Epson Drivers from Epson Photo to Epson Ex, but none > for this very good A3-printer. I also need to set up media type (Epson > Glossy Paper, Epson Glossy Film, ) and other feautres (Microweave, > Resolution) to get the best quality. I see that printer listed in the print plugin of Gimp 1.1.26. And this drivers have lot of options. GSR
Re: Fog?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-02 at 2008.17 +0200): > > > What's the best method to add a fog-like effect? > > One idea that comes to mind would be to add a layer and then fill it with > > plasma, desaturate, and then adjust the transparency to a fog-like effect. > i tried this, but: what is plasma? in generell, how do i do "special" > colors like "transparent", "opaque" or whatever. only thing i can handle > up to now is select and make a layer, but i have no intuitive feeling as to > how they are operated. could someone please bring us intuition? IIRC Tigert (http://tigert.gimp.org/) had a tutorial where he created clouds, fog or something like that. I think it was a tutorial for a meeting, expo or whatever the name. I remember it had mountains and stars, too. GSR
Re: Suggestion to toolbar buttons placement
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-03 at 1633.44 -0500): > On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Tobias [iso-8859-1] Gärder wrote: > > what I'D want is gimp to show the selection-size all the time and not just > > while selecting something, i hate to reselect everything to see how big > > something is (there might be a solution for this, please help me! =) > Tobias has a good point. One of the features I sorely miss from photoshop > was the "Info" window. In addition to showing the sizes of selections Have you ever tried hitting Ctrl+Shift+i? Maybe that is what you want (1.1.26 at least). Well, that plus extra functions (selection size). GSR
Re: .gimprc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-03 at 1034.21 -0400): > Ok, quick question: > Why didn't a .gimprc file get created? Should I just make a blank one for it to >use, or do I need to D/L an actual file somewhere? Everything seems to work well, >except the daily tip never fails to pop up on boot no matter if I click the "don't >show this next time" checkbox. Maybe "~/.gimp-1.1/gimprc"? You should have your config there, at least under a Unix where Gimp installed the user settings right. GSR
Re: Speaking about fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-10-01 at 0136.26 +0300): > Try "unzip", mostly they're .zip SFX, but for other you should use wine > or search for a friend with Win32 installed... They are not zip SFX, they are Win32 code. I had the bad habbot of using "file" command with everything. I guess I will have to install Wine, and hope installing "apps" works. What do not stop you, makes you wiser. :] GSR
Speaking about fonts
Does anybody know how to uncompress the MS Win32 self extratcing archives? It seems that they are becoming a new trend latelly (instead of zip and a good system to install fonts, they use self installers and waste KB like mad). GSR
Re: Looking for true type fonts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-29 at 2056.15 -0700): [...] > common is that they have them all listed *individually*, and not > one of them (that I have found so far) have all fonts in one big > file that I can just download and extract. Plus, most of the ones Use wget, for example: wget -r -l1 -A zip http://site/dir/page-with-zip-links > I have found are *.zip files, and the unzip command doesn't seem [...] > to unzip multiple files at once? (I have read the man page, but > to no avail). Use a bash shell loop, for example: for i in `ls *zip`; do unzip $i; done And also try places with fonts in one single archive. ;] But I can remember none, sorry. GSR
Re: SPAM :-(
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-27 at 2214.14 +0530): > What advantages does hosting this list at the present site have vis. a vis. hosting > this mailing list at egroups.com? egroups.com offers all such facilities, plus all > mails remain archived. Advertisment? If we are gonna change to another place, I would ask help to GNU or SourceForge, they give lists to open source projects without ads. But I guess that the only thing needed is to change a setting in the current list config. And as with the website, the problem is to find the person that can do it. GSR
Re: How to do this ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-27 at 1414.47 +0200): > Hi all, > I would like doing some tips with gimp, but i don't speak (write) english very > well. So I did a web page with the effects that I'm trying to do. > http://axel584.free.fr/gimp/wishlist.html > I've success to do the first (rounded rectangle) with the help of this mailing > list :-) Some solutions for you doubts: 1. Rounded corners tutorial http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat4/ 2. Use the Newsprint plugin. It is applied for another effect in http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/tomcat2/ The idea is to create a B&W draw, blur it, and finally apply the plugin. 3. Add a new layer over the image, using Color mode. Fill it with the color you want. Hope they help. GSR
Re: Does this filter exist?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-21 at 2210.43 +0200): > > I should also mention that I would scale things up only as a last > > resort. If possible re photograph or re scan at a higher resolution. > Say I have a 640x480 JPG I use for desktop background. I'd > like that to be 1152x864. I can't simply rephotograph or > rescan it. Then you are out of luck. Gargage in, garbage out. Pixels can not be created from the void, only calculated based in the original ones (calculated, not copied). If you want extra quality, I would select Cubic in the Scaling entry of the Environment category of Preferences window, it is slower, but better. GSR
Re: Does this filter exist?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-21 at 2206.16 +0200): > > Use the scale tool or "Image->Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that > > I still don't think this is what you wanted to know? > And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush) > graphics tool would? Yes, it would distort it. > I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool. Like you said, not > just repeat the same pixels. A basic rule of computing: computers are stupid. BTW, it will not repeat the pixels, but compute new values to give you a smooth transition. GSR
Re: Does this filter exist?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-09-14 at 2012.44 +0200): > Is there a filter to blow an image up in double size and > calculate the extra pixels, instead of simply stretching > them, as it is done usually. Two tricks: - perfect one but limited: zoom image to 200% and screenshot. Problem is when ou image goes out of screen. - imperfect but always works: scale the image by 2, then apply a Pixelize with size 2. Is that what you want? If not, please define better. GSR
Re: what digital camera?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-30 at 1158.04 -0700): > Without rebooting? Why would you ever have to reboot? You can mount a > drive without rebooting -- especially when that's a pcmcia card > drive. One of the beauties of Linux is never rebooting. FYI, I haven't > rebooted my laptop in 2 weeks and the last time I rebooted was because I > forgot to put it to sleep so the battery ran out. Oooh, when I mean reboot I mean "reboot to Windows, get the images, reboot to Linux, use them". Like with WinModems and Internet (lucky me, all my hardware work with Linux). My Univ server rebooted after a nice over 115 day uptime due a serious power outage that used all the UPS (I can not exactly determine, cos I do not have an uptime daemon, and I do not check uptime everyday, so is just "IIRC around 6 days it was 111, so it must be something more than 115"). And I turn off my home computer cos the fans and the SCSI disks are too noisy to sleep when less than 2 m away. So I know you do not have to reboot a Unix (not only Linux) for most of things (hardware faliure, kernel upgrade, hardware upgrade, power loss, OS change are good reasons to... at least until PCs can hot swap all parts, not just PCMCIA or similar). Thanks for reminding me that. I believed I had to reboot every 2 hours or each program install (whichever occurs first). ;] GSR
Re: what digital camera?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-30 at 0946.59 -0600): > Any suggestions out there for a moderately priced digital camera that is > linux friendly? I'm using SuSE 6.2 I would get the list of supported ones by gphoto http://www.gphoto.org/. The README and FAQ of the distro seem to the list of cameras. > Does it matter? I've never used one before, nor seen one used. Well, yes if you want to use your images in Linux without rebooting. The gphoto docs also have some advices about quality and related details. GSR
Re: GDynText
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-30 at 0817.02 -0500): > How do you place text generated by GDynText anywhere other than the top > left corner? Move the layer: key M or the four arrow cross, then hold Shift and click MB1 (the key is to avoid selecting layers below if you hit a transparent area). GSR
Re: feathered selection in path
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-24 at 1541.27 +0200): > Can gimp memorize feathered selection in path ? I've tried to do this: I think it can not. > *feather selection > *selection to path > *path to selection > After the last stage, select was refined. Why do not use a channel to save the feathered selection? You can always get a path from it (via a selection). GSR
Re: Saving as EPS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-22 at 1118.24 +0530): > The image saved is of 18 MB ? the same if I save it as gif it comes > to about 8 Kb GIF compresses, but I dunno about EPS, I think not, or not as good as other formats. > I have not worked with eps formats but I am sure 18 MB is not normal even > for eps It is. You are moving a raster format to a vector format. The result is one of the least efficient you will see in life. Maybe is something about the DPI. What DPI are you using? > My second problem is in color seperation all the other colors get > seperated in to their respective cmyk format except for black which shows > in all the four modes as otherwise it should only appear in the K(cmyK) > mode IIRC there is no gray reduction or whatever the name in English. The right should be to pass all black to K channel or ask about how much, but there is not. Supposing EPS filter saves to CMYK, a thing I dunno. > I used Perl for scripting and gimp 1.1.4 Old Gimp, 1.1.25 is the latest. GSR
Re: Correction
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-18 at 1227.23 -0500): > Oops--noticed I did not include the URL of the xcf: > it's http://www.bsmanagement.com/llywelyn/images/cyrus/cyrus.xcf > Thanks! > Jim Clark Two things, the first link was wrong, I got something with cyrus.jpg but not with your link. And the second is that never ever use xcf! You should use xcf.bz2 or xcf.gz, at least for web. And for HD too, IMO, cos saves space and only adds a bit (maybe too much for some people?) to load / save times. As the compression is loseless and cmd line reversible, I do not see other problem to avoid it. Could you repost both links after testing? BTW, using JPG as intermediate format is bad. If you are scanning at home, use another format, if scanning in a bureau, ask for another format. IMO PNG is OK for all these jobs. GSR
Re: gimp links and problems with naked humans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-18 at 1732.07 +0200): > Maybe other people on the list know of more sites. You forgot GUG, Gimp User Group (an international group). http://gug.sunsite.dk/ GSR
Re: Scanner suggestions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-16 at 0903.19 -0400): > (Please don't tell me to upgrade - I'm not confident enough yet to install > a new version, and except for some script-fu bugs, it's working pretty > well.) Upgrade! ;] You can, with the Helix RPMs. > Anyhow, any suggestions out there for a scanner? There are several listed > in the book, but I thought I'd see what suggestions might come my way, as > it's a bit outdated. Visit the SANE and related pages, they have the list of supported scanners. I would also check for pages about calibration, so you do no buy one when a same price better one exists. HP looked fine last time I checked, 6xxx IIRC. For example http://www.mostang.com/sane/ and http://www.scarse.org/. The best, IMO, SCSI, less problems in general. For them you will need "count up to 16" (SCSI ID) and "begin, middle, end" (terminator) Sesame Street episodes. They must be really rare episodes, cos nobody seem to understand SCSI. ;P Other option is USB, but you will have to fight kernel, possibly. The worst idea is parallel, too slow, too many problems. GSR
Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-13 at 1126.34 +0200): > It is interesting that most of mailinglist traffic in the recent weeks is > caused by the (perfectly working ;) rpm system :) Perfectly working system or great package creators? :] I vote for the second, cos I have seen too many RPMs badly done (missing things, garbage left after uninstall, installs partially done, wrong owner / permissions...). I wonder if people tests things (a friend as guinea pig is great for this ;] ). GSR
Re: some questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-03 at 1718.00 +0200): > Hi all, > I don't speak very good english so, I'll try to write the less as possible ;-) It seems you also have problems with product names. ;] > I've got some questions about gimp. > *) How keep the toolbar on the top of the desktop (with Ph0t0sh0p I always have > it on the top) I suppose you mean the window with the buttons and the color selector. That is a window manager task (supposing you use a X version), check your wm documentation for always on top settings. > *) How to do a bitmap trame (like http://axel584.free.fr/index6.shtml) (with > Ph0t0sh0p it in the image/mode menu) If you mean the printer effect, MB3 -> Filters -> Distorts -> Newsprint. I think I saw a tutorial about what parameters to get that effect, but can not remember where. > *) Where can I found script/plug-in like eye candy (but free and under gimp of > course ;-) ...) (Eye-candy make 3D effects on the selection shape) Under script-fu menu maybe. Or if not, code your own scripts. All those 3D effects are just combinations of bump map, displaces and similar things. Gimp is a Do It Yourself tool (plugin, script or hand made) while PS is more "pay me for a script" oriented. Can you put a webpage with the one small image of each effect? > *) Can we use a vector editor with gimp ? (like illustrat0r and Ph0t0sh0p who > work together...) If you can save as image (pixels) and trace shapes with the vector one, of course. Gimp can also read some vector formats, like PS / EPS (it renders to pixels to import). > *) Do exist a soft/plug-in to help the creation of the script ? (like in > Ph0t0sh0p where we can record some actions and play them again) Nope yet. Or maybe, it is called text editor with help for the languaje you choose (scheme, perl or python). ;] GSR
Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com
The right ways are, IMO, relative size (any browser) or CSS (latest
browsers). But hey, it is like the same discussion about gamma I have
with some guys ("your image is dark" "no, your monitor is crap and
your room is wrongly illuminated" "ok, you win, I live in a cave and
the monitor company is in backruptcy due poor products"), or the
problems Marc mentioned (last time I found one, the guy corrected it,
but that is cos we know each other ;] ).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-03 at 0346.46 +0200):
> > We all should mail the webmaster of such sites that we would like to
> > read but can not, maybe that way they will pay attention to visitors &
> > content and not only coolness.
> an alternative is to install those special fonts designed by some netscape
Already using fonts bigger than what I should. Look at the posted
PNGs, the menus are big, but text is not.
> victim (big,large-fonts?) and to chop off image-loading in the preferences.
I avoid images too, as much as I can (that means abandoning sites most
of times).
It seems that the new trend is to do small fonts; and force images and
javascript on you if you want to read anything (sometimes the images
are the text). One example of this trend can be "read" in the link
about AquaOS gem effect that was added to http://www.gimp.org/.
BTW, if anyone finds the tutorial, please tell me, cos I get lost with
popups, colourful images and small text before I found anything. Or
maybe I will live with the GUG one.
GSR
DPIs (Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-02 at 2120.02 +0200): > > http://www.cubicdesign.com/gimp/ to demostrate how it looks (NS 4.73 > > Linux, X with swapped 100dpi - 75dpi paths for bigger fonts). Relative > An easier and more consistent way would be to set the dpi of your screen > to a very high value (120+). Netscape scales accordingly. Hehe, look at the font used for the menus, and think about how will them look using 120 DPI (1.2 times bigger, no?). http://acd.asoc.euitt.upm.es/~gsromero/gimp/gautam-web.png http://acd.asoc.euitt.upm.es/~gsromero/gimp/gautam-gimp.png Based in the monitor size (17 aka 16 viewable, so 12.5 wide viewable) and the resolution I use (1152 * 864) the DPI is 1152 / 12.5 = 92.16. GTK with a font of 12 pixels looks perfect, thanks. GSR
Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-02 at 1417.26 -0400): > Hi, > Well, my fonts are Verdana, and Arial..., but I will add Helvetica to the > Add "sans" as last entry, and you have a security net. > tag. As for size=1, my site uses SIZE=2 for the main content. Anyway, too small. I can screenshot http://www.cubicdesign.com/web/ or http://www.cubicdesign.com/gimp/ to demostrate how it looks (NS 4.73 Linux, X with swapped 100dpi - 75dpi paths for bigger fonts). Relative size fonts is the right way, IMO. > Thanks for the criticism... You are welcome. :] GSR
Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-02 at 1311.13 -0400): > Ick, Helvetica? [isn't that a microsoft font?] No, it is the original Adobe name, IIRC. Arial is the MS name for sans font. > Why not use a serif font? Just plain Times New > Roman would work, or better yet don't specify a IMHO Times New Roman, a MS font, sucks so much that I started to hate serif fonts. On the other hand, I discovered TeX Computer Modern font family, and find that my problem was not with serif fonts but with MS one. TeX roman font has something different that showed me that (I like it). > font at all and count on the user's taste for a > default font. I often exit a site without even > reading anything if the font is too small. (for > instance, I don't shop at CDW at all). We all should mail the webmaster of such sites that we would like to read but can not, maybe that way they will pay attention to visitors & content and not only coolness. GSR
Re: Welcome to CubicDesign.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-08-02 at 1139.19 -0400): > I welcome all of you to CubicDesign.com, which is a brand new site > I have started, that features tutorials for the GIMP as well as some > other useful resources on webdesign and graphics. Is just me or there some kind of FONT SIZE=1 conspirancy? Why people do not use relative sizes instead of fixed? And no, my X settings use the 100dpi trick (is there another one to avoid all this completly?). BTW, not all X have Verdana or Arial, but most of them have Helvetica. Lot of Gimpers use X. GSR
Re: 216 colors web palete
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2000-07-24 at 1246.23 -0500): > I got question about the Web palete. If I use any of those 216 colors, > will my web page look the same on Explorer, Netscape, and same look on > Macintoshes, PCs and other machines or it is not so standard as I think? There have been a lot of docs about that, and the conclusion, IIRC, was that you should use an optimized palete and forget all the rest: - if user has 16 or 24 bit display, forcing palette is really bad, cos you win nothing. - if user has 8 bit display, you do not know if he is really using the web palette or another, so the best is to let the user decide (most of systems have an internal system to readapt when data varies). To add insult to injury, you never know if the user has correctly set his gamma or the environment is right (lights, reflections, etc) or the DAC of the video chipset is working like the rest. And BTW it is really rare to have the same look under different browsers. After all the web is a place to share info, not a DTP system. GSR
Re: gimp -> photoshop
>Can I export to photoshop my gimp 1.1 file? Yes, there are plugins to read and save PSD. Maybe not work 100%, but you can try. GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes
>> it via /proc, so check you have compiled and enabled). FreeBSD, if not does >> something like that, should too (in the same way that Linux and FreeBSD >> share the idea of virtual consoles, which is great). >FreeBSD doesn't need that, as it doesn't crash nearly as often as linux >;-> I never have used it for for freezes (yet). Always as fast reboot or experiment (like today playing with RAID... hot reconstruction, cool). > Why? GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes - with ICQ
>Does somebody know about a possibility to separate these two things, >without uninstalling ICQ? Change the extension association, whatever the way that is done now (my last Windows is NT with plain Explorer). I suppose (but I dunno) that Gimp will be able to live with that. I would ask the Win32 developers for help, so maybe they can do something (like using another extension via mv in the makefile... well, MS C project config files and ren). GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes
>> Did you tried the SUBmarine tactic? Alt+SysReq+S (sync disks), wait until >windows? linux? frebsd? Sorry, Linux (option in 2.2 and up, can be disabled, even if you compiled, it via /proc, so check you have compiled and enabled). FreeBSD, if not does something like that, should too (in the same way that Linux and FreeBSD share the idea of virtual consoles, which is great). With MS Windows... well, no comments, each day I wonder where is the console, or the virtual desktop, or why I can not have two GUI at the same time. The best you can do with MS Windows is Ctrl+Alt+Del and pray so it allows you to close the app or something. ;] GSR
Re: Description of SF-ADJUSTMENT parameter format (?)
>Does anybody know where can I get the description of all SF-parameters >which could be used in a script-fu scripts (SF-ADJUSTMENT, for >instance)? There are only 5 of them mentioned in Michael Terry's Black >Belt School of Script-Fu. Latest Gimp has some new SF-foobar. To complicate things, all distros I have seen do not come with the docs for it, but the source one does. Get it, and search for a file named test.scm (IIRC), it is a sphere script-fu, modified to show the new controls, and with comments about how they work. Did I said that I am starting to be feed up with incomplete packages? GSR
RE: Newbie Developer's Question
>I think I have slightly lost the thread. Originally what I was wondering was >whether there was some way of automating the script process either by >recording keystrokes like a macro (is this what Alan is talking about here >??) -- or by some sort of visual interface such as a drag-and-drop >development environment ? None that I know. Fire up whatever editor you want and code your script. Or code the drag and drop or visual interface yourself. ;] BTW: how do you record a loop? GSR
Re: Script-fu crashes
Some details to add to what Marc said: >I've had 3 random freezes of the keyboard upon startx, with the monitor >going black and the only way out a hard reboot. I've fiddled about with >fsck (and been yelled at by German geeks for doing that) but something >seems to always work to get it back. Not the same thing every time, tho. Did you tried the SUBmarine tactic? Alt+SysReq+S (sync disks), wait until LED and sound stop, Alt+SysReq+U (umount disks, remount read only), wait until LED and sound stop, Alt+SysReq+B (reboot). The machine goes down quite fast, and a lot safer than drilling holes in the ships hull (aka hit the reset button), cos it can come up perfectly. Of course, all this works only if the kernel is still alive. GSR
Re: Newbie Developer's Question
>I use the console to see what the command does to the image/layer...if it >works, I then cut-n-paste into emacs. if not, then i just do an undo :-) Thanks, I will give it a try. :] GSR
Re: photo retouch
>> > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/5179/ >> is this just happening to me? when i try to get this page with netscape >> i get redirected (after a 404) to some insane 'net-game. happens even when >> shortening the url back to ...cities.com/ i know i could get into Silicon- >> Valley... >I use netscape also and have no problems viewing the page. Maybe you made >a typo or cut'n pasted to much or to little? I got a similar problem in another page. GeoCities seems to have problems today. GSR
Re: Newbie Developer's Question
>A quick question - is there a tool which provides a visual interface for >writing Script-fu's ? Emacs is a good tool to type them. Then save (do not close emacs), hit "Refresh" in Gimp Script-fu menu (no need to restart Gimp), and try your script. That is what I did. >I have just started to look at creating Script-fu's in the GIMP manual, and >it seems to me that keying in all of those commands by hand would be >extremely tedious. The console is nice to debug them, but not to do full script development (IMO). I doubt anybody uses it beyond testing some lines of code or fix something, like erasing "hang" images or layers (does anybody do more than that? am I the "rare"?). GSR
RE: Fonts in Script-FU Dialogs
>Thanks for your lead. I have located a Helix RPM of Gimp-1-1-24 and >successfully installed it. Do you happen to know if I also need to install >(whether by RPM or make) the associated gimp-data file, or is it already a >part of Gimp-1-1-24 ? I have been a bit offline latelly (exams and work), so me last Helix has 1.1.22, and I used it too few. IIRC they do not provide too many things, so you could give a try to that file. Install under /usr/local/ so you do not kill anyhting based in RPM, and use the Preferences dialog to point Gimp to the correct data dirs. GSR
Re: Layer to selection
> How do I convert a floating selection to a normal selection? Click the new layer icon in the Layer, Channels & Paths window, so you get a layer, then select an area in that layer, for example with "Alpha to selection". GSR
RE: Fonts in Script-FU Dialogs
[...] >Firstly, am I going down the right track by looking here ? Yes, if you know how to compile after getting the files. >Secondly, what do I do with these files once I download them -- some of >these files are large, so I am not going to download them yet until I know >for sure these are what I want. Get the bz2 better (smaller, but same contents), the basic is 1.1.24. If you have 1.1.23, you can get the patch file instead. If you do not have lots of brushes, textures and similar things, get the extra too. >Thirdly, as I am a newbie, could I ask for a bit of hand-holding as to what >I do once I have downloaded them ? I know that I need to gunzip and tar -xvf >these files, but once I have done this, I am getting into unfamiliar >territory when it comes to compiling them. I've already tried to compile >some downloaded GIMP plug-ins, and fell flat on my face. Oh oh. For the bz2 you have to use bunzip2, then tar (or single command tar with special params, read the man page... btw it also works with gz, add -z). The process is explained in a file that comes, readme or install, I can not remember exactly. Normally ./configure --things-I-want, make, make install. You can give it a try, but as I newbie I dunno if you will like it. >or is it possible to get a pre-compiled package for the developers' >edition of GIMP (e.g. RPMs...) ?? Of course, Helix GNOME provides RPM of it, even 1.1.24 as some pointed out. GSR
Re: Fonts in Script-FU Dialogs
>Am I missing something ? The version of the GIMP that I have is 1.04. You answered your own question: 1.0.4. Get a 1.1.x and try again, nice widgets for script-fu dialogs (and a lot more of things). GSR
Re: gif msg default
>how do i change my default gif message? what does it do anyway? >i know its a dumb question, but its me. In the Preferences window of the last version is a place to set up the default message. GSR
Re: CMYK support
> Is there any patch available for gimp 1.1.1 for CMYK support in >TIFFs? 1.1.1 is pretty old. Current is 24, even Helix GNOME ships 22. About CMYK, I suppose it must be first supported in the libtiff code, a thing I do not know. And second, Gimp does not support CMYK yet, so the best you will get will be a CMYK -> RGB conversion, never native CMYK (until is is added, of course, maybe in 2.0). GSR
RE: The "Bucket Fill" Tool in GIMP for Windows
>Hi Andrew, >Can you not use layers Maybe cos if you know wht you want, the other way is faster. And if you do not, you do not waste undo steps (do, "uuummm I do not like it", undo, do: only one slot wasted). Maybe if the undo stack thing is cleared in next versions it would be the same in undo steps. GSR
Re: The "Bucket Fill" Tool in GIMP for Windows
>I am a Windows user, and have been using the Windows version of the GIMP >quite extensively. I have noticed that the Tool Options menu for the Bucket >Fill tool does not have an Opacity slider or a Mode selector (these are >available in the Linux version). >Could anyone suggest a workaround for this ? For example, if I wished to >bucket fill a selection using Multiply mode (say), how could I do it ? IIRC you have two options: - turn off the global settings (or whatever the name) for tools in the preferences. - use the widgets of the brush toolbox. At least that seems to be the case under Unix Gimp. GSR
Re: (B & W) "stencil" raster filter?
[...] >So what I need to do is applying a stencil raster - you know, when your >image becomes a collection bigger and smaller dots, lined under an angle >of 45º ...am I clear? :-) The name of the plugin you need is NewsPrint, IIRC. [...] >Although I just played with Newsprint, and it seemed to have reasonable >results, I'd rather have the rasterizing of a layer to be a *display >property* of a layer, rather than a filter; with a filter, you alter the >image, but with a (what I call) display property, you only alter the way >it is viewed. That can not be done, you will have to keep two copies, the original and the newsprint one. Each time you modify the original, rerun newsprint to get the other layer. >I'd like to hear your ideas upon this: how do you do this, how do you >think it should be, etc. Check Gimp 2.0 when it comes out (next years). Maybe it will have that (plugins that auto apply, or layers dependent in others). While you wait, the best you can do is an export script that runs the Newsprint, flatens layers and then saves to a new name (so you always keep your original XCF). GSR
Re: keep layers ??
>> i there a way to keep the layer structure in a gimp file ??? i like to >> save a file with several layers and get a layers when i load the file in >> gimp again. >save as xcf, the gimps native format. theres also a psd (photoshop) >writing plug in at the registry. gimp already comes with the filter for >reading photoshop. XCF saves more things... or at least you know that it rarelly will leave out data, do not use PSD for dailly work. Just a suggestion to avoid problems. For better space management, use bzip2 or gzip after it. When saving, choose "by extension" and write "filename.xcf.bz2" (or "gz") in the box. You keep all the data, and is saved in compressed way (loseless, of course). Gimp creates the xcf and then calls the compressor, quite easy. And you can extract the xcf file by hand (usefull when sending to a guy that does not have bzip2... rare but there are some still), or leave the work to Gimp. GSR
RE: is there a way to run GIMP in 800/600 mode without using the numeric keypad?
>It's sort of a GIMP question when you understand that the only reason I have >Linux on my laptop, is to use GIMP. I've already looked through LAME and >another Administator's guide and the Mandrake help files with no luck, but I >don't want to Administrate Linux, I just want to run GIMP in 800/600 mode. Setting the drivers is administration, in any OS. You can name it as you want, configuration or whatever. >Can anyone help? There is a Linux site with lot of laptops links... http://www.linuxberg.com/ and then click on docs link and browse a bit to find the Linux and Laptops area (IIRC, maybe it was not there... use a search engine if fails). I know there is a site with lots of link about laptops, including config examples to solve problems like yours, sorry but I can not remember the exact link. >On a side note, I'm intrigued by your comment about laptop colors. In other >image editing programs I would change the color to say, red, with the big >psychdelic color selection palette thing, yet it would show up as grey when >I painted. >Is this what U mean when U allude to color problems using a laptop? No, TFT screens are poor for photoworks. Computer vendor can say whatever they want, but CRTs are still the king. >Because, when I take a picture, it looks right on the laptop... the trees >are green and my butt is white. So I would imgaine that the laptop will be >fine for my low tech needs, i.e. the web. Could you elaborate? Does it >have something to do with 16 bit color vs. 15 bit color? You should run in 24 bits for a full range (at least better than 15/16). And TFT color reproduction is no the same than CRTs. And both are different than printers or scanners. Welcome to the mad world of color calibration. ;] GSR
Re: no X thankyou!!
>> IIRC there is a X server that fakes that. It works as normal X, but never >> shows anything anywhere. Xvfb maybe? And of course, VNC. >..but this would stop normal X running on the machine - need a solution >that allows the script to run every hour - whether I'm logged in, or not. Why would X stop? I do not understand the problem. I have machines running 3 normal X sessions (one in its video card, two remote) plus a VNC X session. And for fun I luanched 3 X one day (weird thing, I know, but the only way to test a thing is trying it, like "how many xterminals can I open?"). GSR
Re: no X thankyou!!
>so, how do i override this?? right now I'm having to xhost (servername) >and keep X running...i want to get this all running from console..i see no >reason for X to be needed... any helpers out there? IIRC there is a X server that fakes that. It works as normal X, but never shows anything anywhere. Xvfb maybe? And of course, VNC. GSR
Re: blur similar to layer mask
>is there a possibility to influence a filter (e.g. blur) with a black >and white gradient similar to the layer mask? >i would like to blur an image so that the border gets unsharp but the >center doesn't change. Playing with selections. If you have 1.1.x you can use the QuickMask thing. That way you paint in the QMask with the gradient tool (or airbrush or whatever) and then it works as selection with levels. If you have 1.0.4 you will have to do it with channels (after all, IIRC, QMask is a hack on top of channels). GSR
Re: Color Dodge/Color Burn
>Does GIMP have a Color dodge/color burn tool or >equivalent (like Photoshop 5)? Yes (at least the name is similar). >I'm running version 1.0.4 for IRIX, and can't seem to >find anything that works like the Photoshop tools do. >Could they be under a different/weird name? Get 1.1.23 for it. >Basically, I'm looking to burn or dodge hues without >affecting the value of surrounding pixels. I think that is what Gimp's dodge / burn does. GSR
Re: Refresh database (Re: Picture/screen size)
>> You can set any refresh rate and resolution your hardware and software >> allows, in both xfree 3 and 4. Just edit your XF86Config and adjust the >> modelines. >Yes but this would involve knowing exactly how to come up with the right >modeline. A single typo here can fry a monitor. Or in the best case, stress the circuitry that protects it and get lots of "Not Valid Scan Frec" via the On Screen Display (I have got some while testing). In any case, not nice. >> xfree4 can make use of ddc, and most monitors underestimate their >> powers. For example, I have a very hard time of getting anything better >> than 70hz under windows. Without the matrox control panel I can't even >> force refresh settings, so windows is by far worse than linux :| >I have a hard believing this as Windows, for 90% of video manufacturers, has >incredible video support and changing refresh rates is very easy. Select >the refresh rate you want from a drop down list. Of course, there are cases where XFree is better than Windows, like with an old #9 (S3 864 chip) I had years ago. But the point is other cases, and specially the easiness of improving the settings (I know the scan lines and such, and I have used the tool to move the screen, but not how to create scan lines with just the Hz and KHz freq). My Hitachi supports a lot of frequencies but Linux underuses it (I bought the one with highest limits for the size, so normal resolutions are quite good while 1600 is just unusable due Moire). And the G400 case is really pathetic (underclocking, yeah, cool!). >Don't get me wrong I can't stand Windows and hate Microsoft's arrogance more >than most people. But I cannot fault them on their suppor/configuration >when it comes to video and only wish that setting up my monitor under Xfree >were as easy. >My ADI monitor has an LED that show what mode it is in and I have much wider >range of choices under Windows than I do under Xfree. That is what I want, easy way to get the scan lines in XFree. I have found a site that was a database of monitors but now says that they have closed cos there are better sources. Where? What I currently have is not 100% good. And when you want to do 2D or 3D, perfect monitor / card pair is important (and in any case, your eyes are important, that was the reason I got an expensive monitor instead of an OEM one). GSR
Refresh database (Re: Picture/screen size)
>XF ver. 4. I am not uite satisfied with it now, because my combination of >Matrox G400/16 MB and ViewSonic 17" only gives me 75 Hz refresh (the M$ gives >87 Hz) so I hope the ver. 4 will help a little. Do not ask me why, but XFree is always very conservative with the refresh rates. Another example is the chipset clock, it also gives less than the maximum. In the end, your machine works below the limit but I doubt any damage is avoided. An example of this is that XFree gives worse results than in other OSs, but with tools like the one for G400 you get the same (and no overclocking, just normal clocking). Does anybody know how to move the refresh data from Windows to XFree? Is there any kind of formula (simple, if possible)? A full database of scan lines? Does XFree 4 come with exact settings or still under powered? I am a bit feed up with this, specially cos all people complain that "in Windows I get X but in Linux I get less" when the problem is not about forcing but setting the right numbers. GSR
Re: Performance of Gimp vs. photoshop for large images
>> thats odd. that size should be fine. i work in film >> res all the time (4kx3k) at 32bpp (yes, i know film >> should be done at 48 or 64 bpp to prevent banding, i >> only work this res for testing) >can I see some references for these values? Seems that number >is just climbing all the time. can the human eye distinguish >more than 26-bit? Even at 4kx3k, you've only got 12million pixels >that can be of different colours. It is for retouching purpouses. When you operate with computers, you have quantization problems, if you use 8 bit per channel, in a few steps you will discover that color that were different now are the same, or that due rounding you get the wrong colors. >(How do you see a 64bit picture on the monitor? ;-) ) You do not. It is just for internal ops. GSR
Re: Performance of Gimp vs. photoshop for large images
>It's set to either 15 megs or 10 megs. However the disc is not being Too low, enough to edit a logo, but not for big images. 3500 * 2800 * 3 bytes = 29.4E6 bytes, as you see it is a lot more than 15MB (near two times), so Gimp moves data to disk as soon as you load the image. I have used Gimp with images as big as yours, multiple layers and it was fast, reason? I set the cache size to 128MB or more (the machine had 256), and I hope to fine tune it as soon as I have time to test it more (but I guess that 128 - 192 will be good, after all, my old machines had 64MB in the best case, and I had done medium works with them). >thrashed, throughout the redraw all the CPU time is being eaten by gimp, >i.e. it's processor-bound, not I/O bound, if it was a cache issue then I'd >expect large amounts of disc I/O but I'm not seeing that. How did you meassure the CPU and IO loads? I think your meassurements are not correct. Unix system internals are really strange, I always remember the famous discussion in GNOME list about Shared memory, Resident, etc. It seems most people meassure wrong. BTW, Unix "trashing" is rare to find, or at least to heard. When it moves data to disk it does not sound like Windows Machine Gun Swap Routine (TM), just clickclick. Watch the LED, it should be always ON (or look like it is ON, you know that eyes are not perfect), but the disk may not make loud or rare sounds. At least under normal conditions (a 1GB DB in a 64MB computer is not normal). ;] Conclusion: raise the limit and complain again if Gimp is not fast. GSR
RE: How to change text
>A last question before downloading gimp 1.1.x: i am loading a .psd file, >and not .pcx, is there a chance that information about text fonts can be >retrieved? That is more complex. There are saver and loader for PSD (two separate plugins IIRC), but I doubt they will do all the things PSD format supports. And to add more problems, remember that Gimp uses X fonts while Photoshop uses other system. GSR
Re: US Government, ImageLinks and Florida Tech developing Open Source Software for Remote Sensing and Mapping
>See attached press release... And? :-/ First: big attachments to mailing list is not a good way to behave, specially if big (most patches I see here are smaller, if even posted). Second: .doc is not a format to prevoide info to everyone (expecially to users that can be running other software instead of MS'). Third: crossposting is not nice either. Next time post a link to a standard format file will be enough (or one that you know that the recipents will be able to download and view... .xcf to Gimp user is right). Thanks. :-| GSR
RE: How to change text
>That may sounds strange, but why couldn't we add semantic specs in xcf >files for instance ? A new standard ? >That could be stated over some structured log ; transient as layering... Gimp 1.1.x and GDynText provide that. But plain 1.0.4 does not. That is the reason he got that "no" answer. XCF does a lot of things, Gimp too, the problem is that if you want latest things, you have to run bleeding edge versions... with Helix GNOME that is not a problem, Helix Code compiles latest Gimp periodically. Maybe you could give a try (if it burns your computer, no complains accepted, only bug report and fixes ;] ). GSR
Re: heXTRIP
> i missed it for long time so i decided to make it. > this script gives you the color from a hex triplet. > to use it put the attached file in your .gimp/scripts directory. I think that fuction is already avaliable in GIMP 1.1.x. > now my question is : why this improved version of the script don't > work? I dunno. :] GSR
Re: Change Color
>I want to change for example all the red color in my pic to blue color. >How can I do ? Select by color (there is a tool for this in the menus, not the magic wand), then fill with new color (bucket). GSR
