Hi,
Anyone serious about knowing truths must either spend its life trying to
define the concept of existence and fighting for it or
to discard it for all uses. The concept of phisical exsitence has a
primitive utilitary nature: Are there men in the other side of the
mountain?. This urgent need to
This is my schema.
Can you complete/ammend it?
Things in themselves (noumena) -> - Have a computational nature (Bruno) :
few components: numbers, + *
- Is just a
mathematical manyfold(Me), few components: equations
:18 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> This is my schema.
>
> Can you complete/ammend it?
>
> Things in themselves (noumena) -> - Have a computational nature (Bruno)
> : few components: numbers, + *
> - Is jus
istence
of somethig.
2012/9/24 Alberto G. Corona
> Hi Stephen,
> Any idea about whatever is outside of the mind (noumena, thing it itself
> as Kant named it)before it is experienced as phenomena is and will
> remain speculative forever. By definition. But this does not prohi
ep 2012, at 12:18, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> This is my schema.
>
> Can you complete/ammend it?
>
> Things in themselves (noumena) -> - Have a computational nature (Bruno) :
> few components: numbers, + *
>
>
> OK, for the chosen basic ontology. Numbers, and theor
Hi John
This crater has been observed, so there are a current observed phenomenon
about this crater: our memory of it.
I observe that others had observed it, and I trust these people. This
indirect account is also an "observation" . I believe because I trust these
people and trust science. But th
A greath truth. Every human knowledge has also social consequiences. When I
say "A". I don´t only say "A is true". I say also that because A is true
and you must accept it because a set of my socially reputated fellows of me
did something to affirm it, you must believe it, and, more important, I
de
Your robot do not have time to know the true truth. He would not speculate
on the nature of his programmer, or why he is here. At least until the
problems of survival are solved by means of a stable collaboration. Even
so, he never could have the opportunity to know the programmer. He don´t
know th
I read some workd of Gintis,. but the experimental game theorists give up
when things get complicated. The dynamic of groups stability and
cooperation and their mechanisms is an field which has not even started.
They do not study the vital role of public cult and rites, for example that
are critica
limitation in our knowledge and the flawed nature of
our communications have moral, epistemological and in general philosophical
implications.
2013/1/6 meekerdb
> On 1/6/2013 12:42 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>> I read some workd of Gintis,. but the experimental game theorists
I still don't know if Roger refer to the ,modern materialistic state or my
initial paragraph about human nature.
I do not know how this nominalism-materialism has derived in a "hole" such
is Fascism. Fascism is a political term, not a philosophical term. To stop
a discussion because something in h
se NS is how we, as temporal
beings perceive the very long term coherence between the mind and the
anthropicallly selected mathematical reality
2013/1/6 Alberto G. Corona
> The expression "Socila construction of reality" is an expression that hold
> any kind or relativism. This is
it is perfectly possible to accept natural selection with all the
implication in genetics without being a materialist.
The materialism is a superfluous ideological substrate. Sheldrake is right
about this critic of materialism. I´m not materialist, and I accept Natural
selection. Materialism is
2013/1/8 Richard Ruquist
> At the most basic level reality is a discrete digital particle arithmetic
> with no need for further calculations in a block universe.
>
> Then it is indistinguishable from a contiuous or discrete mathematical
manifold of some kind. This manifold is anthropically select
It would say that they worship, and worship very hard. But his worship does
adopt different forms. All of them primitive, since their impulses are not
moderated by an assumption of tradition, so they lack the knowledge of best
practices due to previous failures. It is necessary to take into account
I meant:
That´s why PROTECTION FROM bloody offenses demand blood as sacrifice
2013/1/10 Alberto G. Corona
> That´s why bloody offenses demand blood as sacrifice
--
Alberto.
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Perhaps we must worship Everett. Maybe he is with Einstein in a
superdimensional throne of quarks. Aleluya.
2013/1/10 John Clark
> Perhaps the Quantum Suicide experiment has already been performed and on a
> global scale. After Hugh Everett developed the many Worlds interpretation
> in his doct
Space and time may be only on the mind in the Kantian sense. I don´t find
that space must be independent of the mind. space and time may be the way
we perceive a space-time manifold which is pure mathematic and nothing
else. Maybe we can see space out there and we can think on geometry in a
spat
Dear Bruno:
- As I tried to show in robotic Truth, religion is a neccesity for the
operation of social beings.
For all machines, actually. Even when isolated. the "robotic truth" can be
> approached by introspection when the machine complexity is above the Löbian
> threshold.
>
>
> That´s absolu
since the mind
or in your case consciousness is the selector of existence. n your case, I
think that consciousness would "cause-back" Arithmetic and computation:*
Math<-> Computation<-> Mind -> Geometry -> Space -> Matter
2013/1/13 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 12 Jan
THe problem with solar energy is that it is strongly subsidized. Instead of
you being stolen by "monopolistic" energy companies, you can steal the
taxpayer thank to state planning.
Most solar panels are installed because they receive subsidies by KW. As a
logical consequience a boost in production
You are californian its'nt?
2013/1/14 Platonist Guitar Cowboy
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>> THe problem with solar energy is that it is strongly subsidized.
>>
>
> Yes, but this is lessening. Protectionism is crumbling.
Neither the state neither the market can build a society. It a question of
something more, that has a fundamental ingredient: the contact with
reality. When a person believe that receiving from the taxpayer two three
four times the market price for his solar electricity, and still think that
he i
'that there is something fundamental that has particular properties is
unscientific dogma'.
Then everything is unscientific. because no human knowledge can be
expressed without unproven premises at the bottom.
Dogmas are not axioms neither premises, neither assumption, but the latter
tend to bec
democatic principle becomes a dogma an a source of wishdom.
so the democratic decissions can not go wrong. Many people says: The people
can not go wrong!!
economy and simplicity homogeneity principle
2013/1/16 Stephen P. King
> On 1/15/2013 9:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> &#
I have to say that in the countries where lobbies are not permitted, they
are stronger and operate without the voter knowledge, so they have much
more freedom for corruption.
Prohibition by law is not a magic way to make things dissapear.
Unless omniscient, incapable of doing evil inspectors revi
This is the best introduction to quantum mechanics:
https://www.google.es/search?q=susskind+quantum+mechanics&aq=f&oq=susskind+quantum+mechanics&aqs=chrome.0.57j0l3.11316&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
disclaimer: I have not seen it. but I saw some other lectures of this
series "the theoretical minim
Oh, two planet-saviors.
I´m more simpatetic to the "make French chess legal in america" movement.
Waiting for the next paranoia
2013/1/16 meekerdb
> e is great uncertainty about the problem. Of course they are not going to
> do anything about a problem they are
--
Alberto.
--
You
relativistic mathematics lacks a corresponding qualia of
the mind that make them intuitive and "real". They are efective and
predictive, but we can not make it apparent and intuitive in our reality.
2013/1/16 Alberto G. Corona
> This is the best introduction to quantum mechanics
u have been surpassed.
Come on Brent
> Brent
>
>
> On 1/17/2013 2:57 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> Count me as an heretic denialist of the ecological Apocalipsis. The
> Michael Mann hockey stick is a fraud as you can verify in the mails leaked
> in the Climate Research Un
> human population is only possible because of fossil fuel energy. If we
> don't find an alternative, we will eventually face a mass extinction event.
> I'm not sure such an alternative exists, but maybe I'll be proven wrong (at
> least for my 1p) by MWI and QS.
>
>
&g
I though that, this was not a site for enhancing the self esteem of
self-proclaimed rationalists neither an insult-you-an-infidel theraphy
group.
2013/1/24 John Clark
> I sincerely hope that nobody believes I'm picking on Catholics because
> Protestant "thinking" is every bit as brain dead dumb
All these things are part of the myths of modernity. The reality is quite
different. The idea that the medievals though that the earth was flat is
larguely a myth, as true as the fact that now a fair amount of the people
in the world believe that Man has not been in the Moon. Inquisition, for
examp
In fact it is just the opposite: the position of Luther, like the one of
Ocham or Duns Scoto, which were strongly anti-reason, created the modern
science and were precursors of the most radical forms of Positivism.
Why? It is simple to understand: The three of them were against the use of
reason
killed by the scientific
socialists. (or the 5+30 millions killed by the modern eugenesists).
The selection of stories in a biased way is a proof of nothing but the own
prejudices.
2013/1/24 meekerdb
>
>
> On 1/24/2013 9:12 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> All these things are part
2013/1/24 meekerdb
> On 1/24/2013 9:41 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>> In fact it is just the opposite: the position of Luther, like the one of
>> Ocham or Duns Scoto, which were strongly anti-reason, created the modern
>> science and were precursors of the most rad
not extend this, to avoid to mention the G-world and induce
another rant by Pavlovian conditioning).
2013/1/25 Roger Clough
> Hi Alberto G. Corona
>
> Luther wasn't a rationalist, and so contributed nothing to modern science.
>
>
>
> - Receiving the following conte
Hi Telmo.
Group selection It is no longer controversial. Naive group selection do not
work, but selection between groups where internal deletereous behaviours
are repressed to a certan level (but never eliminated) does work. The
theory is called multilevel selection. where selection operates at a
Dear Bruno,
I can not agree with you. neither with anyone that contemplate a
minimalistic extract of the ideas of the past from the point of view and
the knowledge (and ignorance) of the present. Natural theology and the
conquest of nature has been ever a part of Christianity not because that
was
of reason: it can see its own limitations.
>
> Machines are born with a form of necessary faith and necessary intuition.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
>
> Faith opens the inner eye, which science wants to blind.
> So it is said that with faith, you have everything, without faith
> you h
A great post Stephen thanks
Well, in fact what the post says is that the ones that sucks are the
logical positivists (and their dwarfs, the scientists), who took over the
power in Modernland.
I take this phrase, which IMHO describes very well what is inside of what
"In fact, the opposite is tru
2013/1/30 meekerdb
> On 1/29/2013 7:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>>
>> On 27 Jan 2013, at 19:53, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>>
>> Bruno,
>>> You sill say interesting things even in a thread that has fallen deep
>>> in the boring hole of Reductio
2013/1/30 Roger Clough
> Hi Bruno Marchal,
>
> When I read the Bible, it is a subjective act,
> but not my own subjective act alonw, it is
> contained in the subjectivity of the Holy Spirit.
>
>
I´m afraid that when the bible and the Holy Spirit is put away by more
radical movements of a tradit
Hi
2013/1/30 Richard Ruquist
>
> It is to me. I think it is very unlikely that the motions and
> evolutions of star and galaxies and in my model even universes could
> be strongly affected by biological consciousness
>
> But then, what is the anthropic principle about?
>
>
> > --
> > Stathis P
I do think that a block universe can contain minds in a certain way. The
objections against that are based in the absence of time, but space(3D
geometry) and time can and should be a product of the machinery of the
mind, in the kantian sense. But while in Kant things in themselves are
unreachable,
Hi Alberto G. Corona
>
> Does your version of mind actually do anything ?
>
>
> - Receiving the following content -
> *From:* Alberto G. Corona
> *Receiver:* everything-list
> *Time:* 2013-02-02, 04:43:54
> *Subject:* Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe
>
>
rmitted in existence (And I´m
saying a lot), then we still can think, that the block universes is made of
things that exist, that we observe and things that don´t exist. It depends
on the notion of existence.
2013/2/2 Richard Ruquist
> On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Alberto G.
time, his 3d space, his macroscopical laws, is a product
of the mind when he contemplate the mathematical structure from inside.
2013/2/3 Roger Clough
> Hi Alberto G. Corona
>
> My understanding is that the block universe is the physical universe,
> so it does not include the w
I think that geometry is a form of accelerated calculation and presentation
of distances and angles by/in the mind, of the external mathematical
reality.
Within this mental geometrical representation, we locate the rest of the
elements of the mathematical reality that are relevant for survival, t
I think that Roger said nothing agains Jews. simply, ethnic personal
tastes are not a topic for this group.
2013/2/4 freqflyer07281972
> Is there a way Roger can be banned for a comment like that? Or should the
> moderators/admins of this list simply change it to the 'Everything-Nazi
> List'?
I doubt that meaning, existence, creation, purpose makes sense when
applied to the mathematical nature of the external reality. I think that
these concepts only makes sense when though by a mind. So either we reject
these concepts when thinking about the universe (and this makes reasoning
almost i
2013/2/5 Stephen P. King
> Hi,
>
> ISTM that purpose is a 1p, so to ask the question in a 3p sense is to
> make it meaningless.
>
>
> That´s it.
But to insist into make the question in 3p may force the introduction of
an implicit 1p that contemplate the 3p, that is, a metamind , with a
m
2013/2/6 Stephen P. King
> On 2/5/2013 3:27 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>
>
>
> 2013/2/5 Stephen P. King
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ISTM that purpose is a 1p, so to ask the question in a 3p sense is to
>> make it meaningless.
>>
>>
>>
2013/2/5 Roger Clough
> Hi Alberto G. Corona
>
> Your concept is incomplete, because geometry is what Plato called forms,
> which he gave the Greek name of ideas. So you have a thought without a
> thinker.
>
>
>
Yes, the greeks did not conceive an empty space without fo
Another irritating attempt to initiate an of topic discussion. This time
the irritation was intended.
Please
2013/2/6 John Clark
> In his book Summa Theologica that prototypical theologian Saint Thomas
> Aquinas speculated on what heaven would be like, Just as santaklausologians
> specula
2013/2/6 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 06 Feb 2013, at 10:22, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
>
>
>
> 2013/2/6 Stephen P. King
>
>> On 2/5/2013 3:27 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/5 Stephen P. King
>>
>>> Hi,
>
2013/2/6 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 05 Feb 2013, at 11:19, Simon Forman wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 4, 2013 12:22:53 PM UTC-8, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 4, 2013 3:09:16 PM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote:
>>
>>
>>> but there is a self reference when we try to imagine how th
Some initial comments, because I´m very interested on these alterations of
conscience. The rest of my comments will appear along the conversation:
I´m persuaded, by very simple evolutionary analysis that plants
produced whatever chemical substance that stops from eating them. this is
their only me
list=PLyXtpSZUDSjzBluIm4CL5Dbf4F65B0t24.com/secrets-of-the-mind
2013/2/8 Alberto G. Corona
> Some initial comments, because I´m very interested on these alterations of
> conscience. The rest of my comments will appear along the conversation:
>
> I´m persuaded, by very simple evolutionary analysis that p
detoxify fast enough.
2013/2/8 Alberto G. Corona
> Some initial comments, because I´m very interested on these alterations of
> conscience. The rest of my comments will appear along the conversation:
>
> I´m persuaded, by very simple evolutionary analysis that plants
> pr
Almost the same sensations provoked by a stroke:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTrJqmKoveU
There is nothing in LSD or any other psychodelical drugs, except the
impairement fo the pre-conscious control of what arrives to the conscious
produced by the (different modules of the) brain, That is a cl
if comp and the null hypothesis (everithing exist) is accepted, then a
infinity of copies of you are now being kicked by a wild horse while being
eaten by bugs in an ocean of acid. So it does not matter what just a single
copy of you is doing whatever ;)
2013/2/13 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 13 Feb 20
2013/2/21 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 20 Feb 2013, at 22:38, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> if comp and the null hypothesis (everithing exist) is accepted, then a
> infinity of copies of you are now being kicked by a wild horse while being
> eaten by bugs in an ocean of acid.
>
Let´s say that what we call "information" is an extended form of sensory
input. What makes this input "information" is the usability of this input
for reducing the internal entropy of the receiver or increase the internal
order. The receiver can be a machine, a cell, a person or a society for
examp
2013/3/8 Craig Weinberg
>
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2013 7:41:23 AM UTC-5, Alberto G.Corona wrote:
>>
>> That may be not enough. suppose that you are starving, and you receive in
>> your phone a message describing where is the next source of water but
>> somehow the description is interspersed in t
Again the shorcomings of nominamism/positivism. The greeks would laugh at
these questions. It can be explained if we abandon the monomaniatic
reductionistic physicalism and think in terms of just what we are: rational
beings:
I think that the notion of "lost control of something" in an intelligent
No.
What means "truth value" of something? in which range of phenomena? in all
phenomena applicable? how you can test all phenomena applicable to a
theory? you can't. The only thing that you can do is to test a particular
prediction that the theory predict that may never happen (Popperian
falsabil
These beliefs in robotic religión has some reasons behind or it is simply
wishful thinking?
2013/3/22 Evgenii Rudnyi
> Quotes from Robert Geraci, Apocalyptic AI: Visions of Heaven in Robotics,
> Artificial Intelligence, and Virtual Reality
>
> p. 133 "Ray Kurzweil believes that intelligent mach
I a previous discussion in this list ("robotic truth") I argue that a
robot in a competitive environment has to develop (or be programmed
for) all the elements of religión and beliefs to cooperate and survive.
2013/3/22 Evgenii Rudnyi
> On 22.03.2013 13:47 Stephen P. King said the following
This extract from Chesterton has little sense without what precedes and
follows.
2013/3/16 Craig Weinberg
> "For we must remember that the materialist philosophy (whether true or
>> not) is certainly much more limiting than any religion. In one sense, of
>> course, all intelligent ideas are na
the
modern uthopias, and share the same basic impulses.
So this apocaliptic AI is one more scientist wave in this vast historical
process. Almost every scientific discipline has promised a kind of
salvation for himself.
2013/3/22 Evgenii Rudnyi
> On 22.03.2013 15:31 Alberto G. Corona said
These inmanentist religions (eartly utopianism) it is clear that substitute
God by Man (upper case). A divinized man . This has the most evident form
of personality cult to the chosen ones that have the knowledge and/or are
at the control of the transformation process, that in the modernity is
cal
; > On 3/22/2013 6:41 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:49 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 22.03.2013 13:41 Richard Ruquist said the following:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013
I don´t know what Math is.
If math is all that is free from contradictions and can be expressed using
the language of mathematics, then any description at any level can be math.
For example the set of positions and speeds of the particles of a piece of
dirt.
That description has nothing pure to s
I suspect that this impossibility is because math uses concept of a
model, while truth refers to the match of facts of the model with facts of
the reality . Or at least to facts of a metamodel outside of the model.
That is AFAIK the Tarsky idea.
For example, "All men are mortal is true" . Here s
point
that differences natural theology from mathematical theology)
Religión is more a form of organization around an admitted theology.
2013/3/24 Bruno Marchal
>
> On 22 Mar 2013, at 13:06, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> These beliefs in robotic religión has some reasons behind or
I mean:
ultimately the aestetic pleasure of Math derives from the natural impulse
to search for efficient algoritms useful for deduction
2013/3/25 Alberto G. Corona
> I don´t know what Math is.
>
> If math is all that is free from contradictions and can be expressed using
> the
No problem.
The UDA work without limitation of resources, thanks to Turing and Godel.
So you can do whatever weird thing you want without any fear of receiving a
big electric bill at the end of the month
2014-02-07 LizR :
> On 7 February 2014 16:48, meekerdb wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you thinking of
2014-02-08 17:00 GMT+01:00, John Clark :
> The invention of language was obviously of great benefit to the species
> called Homo sapiens, but like all tools it is not perfect and sometimes the
> brain can waste a great deal of processing power spinning its wheels over
> questions of words rather th
To summarize: there are all possible combinations of 1 and 0's therefore
everithing can be made isomorphic or "emergent" from 0 and 1's. So stop
thinking and praise 0s and 1s hypothesis.
-Why people make apparently weird distincitions?
it does not matter: comp says nothing about it. it depends o
r on, he discover that it was
something trivial, but it was obfuscated and intimidated by the formulas.
or
7''- teleportation to another list with a certain substitution level.
2014-02-14 21:39 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal :
>
> On 14 Feb 2014, at 12:17, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
&g
There is no Monkey day in the UN agenda ?
https://www.google.es/search?q=monkeys+space&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=lvIaU8TDCcL_ygObkICgCA&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=667
I think that these heroes deserve some rights too. Some of them are
female monkeys by the way.
2014-03-08
An excellent piece of postmarxist (marxism rephrased as sociological
"science") by the church of progressivism.
Unless the budget of the NASA and specially these "experts" is increased
and a change in global politics and another international bureau of world
engineers is created overcoming de
My only doubt is how long it will take to convert this discussion list,
once devoted to science and (some) philosophy, into a pure mambo-jambo
babble of left liberals new agers and ecoloalarmists among others
2014-03-17 16:48 GMT+01:00 Alberto G. Corona :
> An excellent piece of postmarx
What impressed me is this:
"Let's just hope that it is not a trick"
2014-03-18 9:17 GMT+01:00 LizR :
> Is it just me? I find things like this make me cry. I saw Alan Guth on the
> news earlier today, and I just ... well I almost teared up. This is someone
> who came out with this theory 30 year
At first sight it seems to me a bad model starting from good stuff.
A better model would take algorithmic complexity into account, and living
beings as algorithms that utilize universal induction to predict sequences
in the environment (using solomonoff theory of universal induction).
Fitness wou
Threads like this have no relation with questions about what this list is
about: the ultimate reality.
Well...wait... Why questions like this are discussed here? My guess is that
yes, indeed. This is a question about the ultimate reality. GW is a
question of belief, about where we go, one of the m
There must be a pact of non aggression among sects in your
neighborhood that your sect of planet saviors has signed with the rest
of them. has been Al Gore there lately? ;)
2014-04-05 7:02 GMT+02:00, Chris de Morsella :
>
>
>
>
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:everything-list@goo
:
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alberto G. Corona
>
>>>There must be a pact of non aggression among sects in your neighborhood
> that your sect of planet saviors has signed with the re
Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but
that did not reached consciousnees you were busy thinking about other
things. (I will not insert here these funny videos of people failing
to recognize a bear in the middle of a scene).
But according with a theory of evolutionary p
Congratulations. This message beats any level of politically correct
sickness in this self-help group.
2014-07-09 6:10 GMT+02:00 Platonist Guitar Cowboy
:
> Dear Telmo,
>
> In light of recent nationalist spikes and troughs on the list, heartfelt
> German apologies for the aggression of our c
The problem is not what a green economy would sustain, but where the
mass hysteria of the self appointed planet savers would be redirected
when they find that the planet does no longer need to be saved, except
from themselves.
I guess that they will be inmediately concerned by micro-agressions
aga
Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to use
the Mao suit at least?
2014-07-13 5:52 GMT+02:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
:
>
>
>
>
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb
> Sent: Saturday, Jul
Comrades:
Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to use
the Mao suit at least?
Just to know better what our Lords though for us, in order to love
them even more.
2014-07-13 5:52 GMT+02:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
:
>
>
>
>
> From: everything-list@googleg
Comrades:
Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to
dress the Mao suit at least?
Just to know better what our Lords though for us, in order to love
them even more.
2014-07-13 5:52 GMT+02:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
:
>
>
>
>
> From: everything-list@googl
I mean..
I know that preventive abortions of low class people,
homosexualization and proletarization of women working 8x7x365 away
from home is the solution, but some of us can survive and have to
dress something.
2014-07-13 10:21 GMT+02:00, Alberto G. Corona :
> Comrades:
>
> Texti
2014-07-13 10:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> Le 13 juil. 2014 10:21, "Alberto G. Corona" a écrit :
>>
>> Comrades:
>>
>> Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to
>> dress the Mao suit at least?
>>
>> Just to kno
GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> Le 13 juil. 2014 10:34, "Alberto G. Corona" a écrit :
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>> 2014-07-13 10:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
>> > Le 13 juil. 2014 10:21, "Alberto G. Corona" a
> écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Comrades:
>>
I see
Ladies and gentleman: this is the shape of things to come. Nothing new
under the sun.
2014-07-13 11:24 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> Le 13 juil. 2014 11:11, "Alberto G. Corona" a écrit :
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>> No doubt you have evil inside. And your sense of humorI know
You both are so dumby stupids that are horrorizing your own comrades.
Not for what you say, but because this hasn´t to be made explicit.
2014-07-13 14:30 GMT+02:00, Quentin Anciaux :
> Le 13 juil. 2014 14:22, "Alberto G. Corona" a écrit :
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>> I see
>>
>> La
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