Hehe.
Fine.
However, the concrete abstract seems very promising for a theologian.
It is clear that Boudry know the concepts that he manage. His abstract
is a piece of cake, it is a I solved the Teologian problem of our
time! . It is not pure gibberish.
Remenber that the Sokal affair was around
I don´t know if you know the postmodernist generator. It´s a program
that generate postmodernist papers, Sokal style:
Each time it is executed, a now paper is generated:
http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/
2012/9/30 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com:
Hehe.
Fine.
However, the concrete
Thanks for the very interesting video.
Concerning Platonia and Contingia, there are much to say if we introduce
natural selection, the only well know creative process.
The world of Platonia, in terms of natural selection, is the peak of the
fitness landscape (FT). The FT is the point of
Even if intentionally faked, for sure the article add to theology more than
what Margaret Mead added to Anthropology for years, or what global warmists
are adding to Meteorology ;)
2012/9/30 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/30/2012 4:31 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Hehe.
Fine.
However
2012/9/30 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 9/30/2012 6:54 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Whoever said that does not know what he says:
There are great differences between evolutionary designs and rational
design, rational designs are, well, rational, but
evolutionary designs are idiotic
Hi Roger:
... and cognitive science , which study the hardware and evolutionary
psychology (that study the software or mind) assert that this is true.
The Kant idea that even space and time are creations of the mind is crucial
for the understanding and to compatibilize the world of perceptions
2012/10/7 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 07 Oct 2012, at 12:32, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Hi Roger:
... and cognitive science , which study the hardware and evolutionary
psychology (that study the software or mind) assert that this is true.
Partially true, as both the mainstream
With by real computers made of ordinary matter. I mean that the
computers are structures within the mathematical manifold that describe the
physical reality (or the tip of the iceberg).
2012/10/7 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
2012/10/7 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 07 Oct
Deutsch is right about the need to advance in Popperian epistemology,
which ultimately is evolutionary epistemology. How evolution makes a
portion of matter ascertain what is truth in virtue of what and for
what purpose. The idea of intelligence need a knowledge of what is
truth but also a motive
the picture coherent. If that
something is not computation or computations, what is the nature of
this well behaving hallucination according with your point of view?
2012/10/7 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 07 Oct 2012, at 15:11, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/7 Bruno Marchal marc
2012/10/9 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru:
On 08.10.2012 20:45 Alberto G. Corona said the following:
Deutsch is right about the need to advance in Popperian
epistemology, which ultimately is evolutionary epistemology.
You may want to read Three Worlds by Karl Popper. Then you see where
to questions about existence, perception and so on.
But still after this reasoning, I doubt that the self conscious
philosopher robot have the kind of thing, call it a soul, that I have.
2012/10/9 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net:
Hi Alberto G. Corona and Bruno,
Perhaps I can express the problem
I thin that natural selection is tautological (is selected what has
fitness, fitness is what is selected) but at the same time is not
empty and it is scientifc because it can be falsified. At the same
time, if it is agreed that is the direct mechanism that design the
minds then this is the
Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 09 Oct 2012, at 13:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
But still after this reasoning, I doubt that the self conscious
philosopher robot have the kind of thing, call it a soul, that I have.
?
You mean it is a zombie?
I can't conceive consciousness without
The perception of beauty in the body is the result of the evolutionary
need to detect people with sucessful traits to meet or mate them.
Male face masculine traits, designed for avoiding strokes of other men.
http://ilevolucionista.blogspot.com.es/2008/06/evolutionary-design-of-human-face.html
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
zombie-actors that try to cheat me, but I have an harcoded belief
life, consciousness, free will, intelligence
I try to give a phsical definition of each one:
Life: whathever that maintain its internal entropy in a non trivial way (A
diamant is not alive). That is, to make use of hardwired and adquired
information to maintain the internal entropy by making
Magic emergence from magic enough complexity has been advocated for almost
anything. Most of the time as an excuse for not saying I don´t know,
that is the prerequisite for thinking deeper about the problem. I prefer to
say I don´t know.
2012/10/16 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
Hi Stephen
2012/10/10 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may be that the world is made of
zombie-actors that try
2012/10/11 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 10 Oct 2012, at 20:13, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/10 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 09 Oct 2012, at 18:58, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It may be a zombie or not. I can´t know.
The same applies to other persons. It may
*is* involved when we consider issues such as
reportablity of consciousness, but the property of having a subjective
experience of being in the world itself can be strongly argued to flow at
the most basic level that allows differences.
On 10/16/2012 10:04 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I argued
I can be the result of a tautological causation: natural selection: what is
reasonable? what at a certain level in tjhinking beings achieve survival..
what exist? what help to survive. What survives? what perdures. What
perdures? waht reproduces. What reproduces? what is sucessfull. What is
2012/10/17 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 10/16/2012 10:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:42:16 PM UTC-4, Stephen Paul King wrote:
On 10/16/2012 5:26 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:41:59 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote:
Sorry
2012/10/17 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 10/17/2012 4:12 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Life may support mathematics.
Hi Alberto,
OK, we can think of Life, in a very abstract sense, as the generator
of variety and pattern, so that might work. This makes Life = God!
Life
A few discoveries of evolutionary psichology may help. According with EP
the mind is composed of many functional modules, each one for a different
purpose. many of them are specific of each specie. Each of these modules is
the result of the computation of certain areas of the brain. A functional
2012/10/19 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 19 Oct 2012, at 12:26, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
A few discoveries of evolutionary psichology may help. According with EP
the mind is composed of many functional modules, each one for a different
purpose. many of them are specific of each specie
Roger
Different Qualia are a result fo different phisical effect in the senses.
So a machine does not need to have qualia to distinguish between phisical
effectds. It only need sensors that distinguish between them.
A sensor can detect a red light and the attached computer can stop a car.
With no
on believing in these nor measurable things, because if
they doint believe, they would be paralized and will kill someone or kill
themselves.
2012/10/20 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
Hi Alberto G. Corona
I have no problem with that, the problem I have
is that I believe that nonphysical things
This is not a consequence of the shannon optimum coding , in which the
coding size of a symbol is inversely proportional to the logaritm of the
frequency of the symbol?.
What is exactly the comp measure problem?
2012/10/19 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
Hi,
I was looking up a
of the phisical laws, or, in other words, their low kolmogorov complexity,
that solomonov translates in his theory of inductive inference.
2012/10/21 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
Ok
I don´t remember the reason why Solomonof reduces the probability of the
programs according with the length
2012/10/22 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:38:46PM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Rusell,
How does Schmidhuber consider the physicality of resources?
--
Onward!
Stephen
No. The concept doesn't enter consideration. What he considers is
2012/10/22 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:03:48PM +0200, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
This does not implies a reality created by an UD algorithm. It may be a
mathematical universe, that is a superset of the computable universes.
The
measure problem
C3PO would be a phylosophical zombie. It would not?
2012/10/22 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 10/22/2012 3:12 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
SNIP
Hi Bruno and Roger,
What would distinguish, for an external observer, a p-zombie
from a person that does not see the world external
2012/10/22 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 10/22/2012 2:38 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/10/22 Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:38:46PM -0400, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Rusell,
How does Schmidhuber consider the physicality
2012/10/24 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 24 Oct 2012, at 14:31, Stephen P. King wrote:
http://www.frontiersin.org/**Perception_Science/10.3389/**
fpsyg.2012.00390/abstracthttp://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract
Comments?
If verified it
it
unconsciously. Most of the time even we are not conscious of how much
information we gather.
2012/10/24 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
2012/10/24 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 24 Oct 2012, at 14:31, Stephen P. King wrote:
http://www.frontiersin.org/**Perception_Science/10.3389
I agree.
is there something that can be perceived that is not qualia? It´s
less qualia the shape and location of a circle in ha sheet of paper
than its color?.The fact that the position and radius of the circle
can be measured and communicated does not change the fact that they
produce a
inference possible. To anticipate that a
policeman knoking on the door will tell us bad news is not
adivination, for example.
2012/10/25 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 24 Oct 2012, at 19:31, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I dont believe that such genuine anticipation is possible, for a simple
: Is there something that I could know to be the case, and which is not
expressed by a proposition that could be part of some scientific theory?
Yes . I love my mother is some knowledge that I know , and is not part
of a scientific theory.
We know reality because we live in the reality, We do
ending waves of
totalitarianisms within Modernity.
2012/11/6 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
Roger:
That´s right
The modern notion of free will is a nominalist
https://www.google.es/search?q=nominalism+oq=nominalism+sugexp=chrome,mod=0sourceid=chromeie=UTF-8one.
It redefine free
I always emphasize that there is a evolutionary logic, which unlike any
other logic, is tautological, that is assume no axioms beyond natural
selection (which is tautological per se)
I will define here this logic as clear as I can.
Therefore evolutionary logic a good foundation for an absolute
Better written:
2012/11/10 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
I always emphasize that there is a evolutionary logic, which unlike any
other logic, is tautological, that is assume no axioms beyond natural
selection (which is tautological per se)
I will define here this logic as clear
of the internally accumulated
evolutionary knowledge.
2012/11/10 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
Better written:
2012/11/10 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
I always emphasize that there is a evolutionary logic, which unlike any
other logic, is tautological, that is assume no axioms
It is not relativist post modernist, it is just the opposite
it is the discovery of an absolute universal truth starting from nothing,
or if you like, from the most absolute relativism..
2012/11/11 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
If All the rest is vaguely interesting for you
. It is what Konrad Lorenz suggested when he said
that the Kantian a prioris of the human mind , the intuitive logical,
existential and moral knowledge of the mind was harwired by evolution.
2012/11/10 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
Sorry, I added some thing particularly:
That 1+1=3 is false
On 11/10/2012 3:38 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It is not relativist post modernist, it is just the opposite
That Lamarckism would be true if society held it to be true? If that's
not relativist post modernism, I don't know what is.
Brent
it is the discovery of an absolute universal
2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a
society where everyone take something as true , no matter what, then it is
true for one of its members, you, for example
2012/11/20 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:02, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/11/11 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 11 Nov 2012, at 01:29, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It is an observable fact. is obviously true that if you live in a
society where everyone take
This speed in the evaluation is a consequence of evolutionary pressures: A
teleological agent that is executing a violent plan against us is much more
dangerous than a casual accident. because the first will continue harming
us, so a fast reaction against further damage is necessary, while in the
2012/12/8 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 12/7/2012 6:01 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Fantastic links, specially the latter. I´ll read it.
This is my standpoint now:
First is necessary to define existence. My standpoint is that what
exists is what the mind assumes that exist
Stephen,
The article illustrates the dangers of a premature modellization of a
problem. The urge to have a mathematical model forces to narrow the thing
to be modellized and to isolate it artificially from a wider context that
is crucial for the understanding of the problem. The result is a fine
Yes, I sent a search link for you to know the opinions about it.
in EP this your example does not offer a clear hypothesis. But there are
others that are evident. It depends on the context. for example , woman
have more accurate facial recognition habilities, but men perceive faster
than women
Hi Friends.
Im my opinion, mathematical truth becomes a result of the antrophic
principle if we accept that life is a process of algorithmical discovery of
a description of the reality where the body is, so that this description
can be incorporated and used for survival. This discovery demand
Dear Craig,
You have much to learn about evolution. there have been a lot of
developments since Darwin. You adhere to a caricature that is outdated.
Almost everything can drive to totalitarianism, The idea that nothing is
innate drives to totalitarian social engineering. the idea that men are
You said it:
in part because it (evolution) carried a sense of progress not found
in Darwin's idea
Evolution is descriptive, is the fact. natural selection is the theory that
explain it. A scientific theory impose constraints with what may and may
not happen. For example, child caring and
, December 13, 2012 10:43:59 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Alberto G. Corona
It's much simpler than that, I think.
Progressives hate everything resembles anything
held to be good, beautiful, or true.
Then your thoughts are simple-minded indeed.
Gandhi, MLK, Einstein were haters of goodness
10:43:59 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:
Hi Alberto G. Corona
It's much simpler than that, I think.
Progressives hate everything resembles anything
held to be good, beautiful, or true.
Then your thoughts are simple-minded indeed.
Gandhi, MLK, Einstein were haters of goodness, beauty, and truth
Suppose that you are in charge of the software of a social robot. I mean a
robot that live with other robots that collaborate to solve problems. These
robots must repair themselves, with pieces that are located in the field.
these pieces are scarce or they are not for free, and some groups of
with truths about other robots or groups of robots.
2012/12/18 Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
Hi Alberto G. Corona
I'd rather just take a poll.
I feel more comfortable with data.
[Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] rclo...@verizon.net]
12/18/2012
Forever is a long time, especially
2012/12/18 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
It just want te people to argue about what must be true for these robots.
I suppose that the truth about fabrication of pieces are know and accepted
by all, so the only remaining things to communicate and hold as trur are
the ones related
is survival, not accuracy.
2012/12/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 12/18/2012 8:05 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Suppose that you are in charge of the software of a social robot. I mean
a robot that live with other robots that collaborate to solve problems.
These robots must repair themselves
A greath truth. Every human knowledge has also social consequiences. When I
say A. I don´t only say A is true. I say also that because A is true
and you must accept it because a set of my socially reputated fellows of me
did something to affirm it, you must believe it, and, more important, I
Your robot do not have time to know the true truth. He would not speculate
on the nature of his programmer, or why he is here. At least until the
problems of survival are solved by means of a stable collaboration. Even
so, he never could have the opportunity to know the programmer. He don´t
know
I read some workd of Gintis,. but the experimental game theorists give up
when things get complicated. The dynamic of groups stability and
cooperation and their mechanisms is an field which has not even started.
They do not study the vital role of public cult and rites, for example that
are
in our knowledge and the flawed nature of
our communications have moral, epistemological and in general philosophical
implications.
2013/1/6 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 1/6/2013 12:42 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
I read some workd of Gintis,. but the experimental game theorists give up
between the mind and the
anthropicallly selected mathematical reality
2013/1/6 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
The expression Socila construction of reality is an expression that hold
any kind or relativism. This is nor that. This is a algorithmical study
founded in game theory
it is perfectly possible to accept natural selection with all the
implication in genetics without being a materialist.
The materialism is a superfluous ideological substrate. Sheldrake is right
about this critic of materialism. I´m not materialist, and I accept Natural
selection. Materialism is
2013/1/8 Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com
At the most basic level reality is a discrete digital particle arithmetic
with no need for further calculations in a block universe.
Then it is indistinguishable from a contiuous or discrete mathematical
manifold of some kind. This manifold is
It would say that they worship, and worship very hard. But his worship does
adopt different forms. All of them primitive, since their impulses are not
moderated by an assumption of tradition, so they lack the knowledge of best
practices due to previous failures. It is necessary to take into
I meant:
That´s why PROTECTION FROM bloody offenses demand blood as sacrifice
2013/1/10 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
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Perhaps we must worship Everett. Maybe he is with Einstein in a
superdimensional throne of quarks. Aleluya.
2013/1/10 John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com
Perhaps the Quantum Suicide experiment has already been performed and on a
global scale. After Hugh Everett developed the many Worlds
Space and time may be only on the mind in the Kantian sense. I don´t find
that space must be independent of the mind. space and time may be the way
we perceive a space-time manifold which is pure mathematic and nothing
else. Maybe we can see space out there and we can think on geometry in a
Dear Bruno:
- As I tried to show in robotic Truth, religion is a neccesity for the
operation of social beings.
For all machines, actually. Even when isolated. the robotic truth can be
approached by introspection when the machine complexity is above the Löbian
threshold.
That´s absolutely
consciousness is the selector of existence. n your case, I
think that consciousness would cause-back Arithmetic and computation:*
Math- Computation- Mind - Geometry - Space - Matter
2013/1/13 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 12 Jan 2013, at 13:48, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Space and time may
THe problem with solar energy is that it is strongly subsidized. Instead of
you being stolen by monopolistic energy companies, you can steal the
taxpayer thank to state planning.
Most solar panels are installed because they receive subsidies by KW. As a
logical consequience a boost in production
You are californian its'nt?
2013/1/14 Platonist Guitar Cowboy multiplecit...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.comwrote:
THe problem with solar energy is that it is strongly subsidized.
Yes, but this is lessening. Protectionism is crumbling
Neither the state neither the market can build a society. It a question of
something more, that has a fundamental ingredient: the contact with
reality. When a person believe that receiving from the taxpayer two three
four times the market price for his solar electricity, and still think that
he
'that there is something fundamental that has particular properties is
unscientific dogma'.
Then everything is unscientific. because no human knowledge can be
expressed without unproven premises at the bottom.
Dogmas are not axioms neither premises, neither assumption, but the latter
tend to
the democatic principle becomes a dogma an a source of wishdom.
so the democratic decissions can not go wrong. Many people says: The people
can not go wrong!!
economy and simplicity homogeneity principle
2013/1/16 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 1/15/2013 9:13 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote
I have to say that in the countries where lobbies are not permitted, they
are stronger and operate without the voter knowledge, so they have much
more freedom for corruption.
Prohibition by law is not a magic way to make things dissapear.
Unless omniscient, incapable of doing evil inspectors
There is something deeply religious in many scientifics in his quest to
expand their Truth. And there is also something very philosophical indeed.
But they ignore both. They ignore their beliefs and their positivistic
metaphisics, born in the disputes between nominalists and realists during
the
2012/7/10 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 7/10/2012 10:49 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
There is something deeply religious in many scientifics in his quest to
expand their Truth. And there is also something very philosophical indeed.
But they ignore both. They ignore their beliefs
2012/7/10 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
Why would you not expect a theory-of-everything to include the behavior of
people? Note that 'govern' does not imply 'predictable'.
A phisicinst theory of everithing , despite the popular belief, does not
govern the behaviour of the people. No longer
where we find any meaning.
Even the phisical TOE is part of this second world. there are no countries,
no cars, no persons, no electrons outside of the world of the mind.
Outside of the mind there is only mathematics. And this math has been
anthropically selected by the mind.
2012/7/11 Alberto G
sorry. It is consciousness instead of conscience.yes.
2012/7/11 David Nyman da...@davidnyman.com
On 11 July 2012 09:55, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
but is in this second world of shared conscience created from the mind
where we find any meaning.
Alberto, do you mean
scientists, Philosophers,
psichologists etc.
. Matt Rydley what is human is a good introduction.
2012/7/11 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 7/11/2012 4:29 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/7/10 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
Why would you not expect a theory-of-everything to include
2012/7/12 Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 7/11/2012 6:47 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Stephen:
Well it´s not cooperation between computer programs, but cooperation of
entities in the abstract level. This can be described mathematically or
simulated in a computer program. In both
the
collaboration.
2012/7/13 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 7/12/2012 4:04 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
We each one are free riders because we are selfish collaborators. A twist
on selfish collaboration is the self deception: our memory is unconsciously
distorted to support our case. we thinkl that we
We all are thrown to existence in a box. we do not know how nor why and for
what purpose. We can choose to concentrate in looking at the things of the
box, or we can spend time looking at the limits of the box, at the whys
and what is out and how to go out. Or to discover the final purpose it
2012/7/14 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 7/13/2012 4:07 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
It must be, because this has been a very sucessful mith.
Yes, it was no doubt successful in keeping the peasants believing the in
divine knowledge of the free loading priests.
Brent
I can play
Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net
On 7/14/2012 4:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 14 Jul 2012, at 07:48, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Stephen,
I took a look at the book of Jon Barwise and it seems very interesting.
This use of category theory with information seems promising. I´m
those that don´t.
2012/7/18 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
It´s not only category theory, but category theory to solve te problem of
spurious inferences, of the type that plague tradicional neural networks
and semantic nets when they learn automatically things: for example: a car
may
For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian
civilization until XVIII century at least, as measured in objective
evolutionary terms.
2012/7/14 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/13/2012 4:31 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
2012/7/14 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On 7/13
Sorry. I have noting to learn from this thread. I prefer to discuss
other things that I mentioned above that are far more interesting . .
2012/7/18 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net:
On 7/18/2012 10:32 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
For example, the fantastic, uinmatched success the judeo-christian
These psycho-philosophical arguments like the one of John Ellis are what in
evolutionary Psychology is called an explanation based on proximate causes.
Instead, ultimate causes are the physical causes that generate, by natural
selection, a mind with such concepts and such phenomenology that is
Evgenii : I thank you for your questions, since It helps me to re-examine
and clarify my position.
2012/7/29 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru
On 29.07.2012 11:28 Alberto G. Corona said the following:
These psycho-philosophical arguments like the one of John Ellis are
what in evolutionary
Computations are not proof. There are similarities, and there are a lot of
interesting relationships between the two concepts, but we cannot use proof
theory for computation theory
What goes to Another intriging duality : The Curry-Howard isomorphism
between computer programs and mathematical
Evgenii, great questions
2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru
On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona said the following:
What do you mean by the world of the mind is different form the
phisico-mathematical world? Is this as by Descartes res cogitans vs. res
extensa?
As you said
Thnks Bruno, Specially your agreement on dualism make me feel more
confident.
2012/7/31 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
Hi Alberto,
On 31 Jul 2012, at 11:08, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Evgenii, great questions
2012/7/30 Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru
On 30.07.2012 11:19 Alberto G. Corona
if the universe is or not the product of a boltzman
fluctuation.
2012/7/31 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
On 31 Jul 2012, at 17:36, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote:
Citeren Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be:
On 30 Jul 2012, at 19:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 7/30/2012 2:19 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote
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