Re: Lost folders
Hello Nick, Monday, November 24, 2008, 7:57:43 AM, you wrote: ND Hello, ND I'm suffering from what seems to be the same problem as Jack ND (2008-06-11 15:53:20 GMT). ND I used to have a folder called Skiing 2009. I can no longer find ND this in TB!'s folder tree. ND It's there on disk, and I can see e-mails in the MESSAGES.TBB file. ND I've tried searching within TB for unique strings in those messages, ND but they're definitely not there. ND Shift-ctrl-alt-L doesn't find this folder. ND I tried removing the ACCOUNT.FLB from the root folder but this had the ND adverse effect of losing well over half my folders and accounts. ND Restoring the original seemed to fix that particular scare. ND Can anyone suggest a path forward? ND This particular instance isn't critical, but I'm nervous that I've ND lost other directories and would like to look into this further. ND TIA, If I'm the 'Jack' to whom you're referring, my problem was that only certain messages fetched the morning before the computer crash went missing. We never lost an entire folder. Had I known where TB kept it's messages in Vista, I could have retrieved them from my off-site Carbonite backup. However, in my clumsy attempts to find the storage location I accidently allowed Carbonite to overwrite a good backup with a corrupted one which I accidently created. FWIW, I have since set up TB to perform daily backups, have told TB to 'keep messages on server for 5 days', have re-configured the computer to NEVER sleep and have re-configured Carbonite to back up only very late in the evening when the computer is no longer used for that day. It's never too late to lock the barn door. You'll eventually get more horses. Sorry I can't be of more help. Good luck. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
Fellow list members, I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose) for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE website (http://www.pcwize.com/). The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to create new, and edit existing, pages. Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual. Just curious. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Two registry keys for speller/spellcheck
Hello MFPA, Thursday, December 11, 2008, 4:08:33 PM, you wrote: M Hi M I notice my registry contains both M HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller M and M HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\SpellCheck. M Are these both used, or does one remain from a previous version? While I can't answer your question directly, I can say that in my registry there exists HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!\Speller. However, HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\SpellCheck does *not* exist. HTH -- Best regards, Jackmailto:jlar...@charter.net Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
Hello Eddie, Sunday, December 14, 2008, 6:36:20 AM, you wrote: EC May I suggest that you open a place at site.google.com where anyone EC who participates can do his/here editing without moving the file. This EC prevents that there are too many files wandering around and no one EC knows really what or where is the last version. I searched the past thread on this subject and didn't see your name in any of the posts so you may not be aware of what was discussed. Although, I may have lost some of the posts due to automatic purging. When this thread started on 11/28 several suggestions were made but apparently no consensus was reached. I suggested the following submitted here for your perusal: - copy of message sent to list 11/30 - Fellow list members, I've been following this thread since the beginning and find it unusual that no one has mentioned the Tiki (similar to WIKI I suppose) for TBUDP (The Bat! User Documentation Project) located at the PCWIZE website (http://www.pcwize.com/). The following link will take you directly to the TBUDP page: http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/tbudp/tiki-index.php Since this project has already been started, it would seem that it falls directly in line with what every one in this thread is asking for. I've discovered that once you have registered, you are allowed to create new, and edit existing, pages. Would a printable manual really be necessary if one could always go to this site for answers to TB how-to questions? And if a printable manual is preferable to on-line help, maybe the contents of this TIKI could be printed in some sort of hard-copy manual. Just curious. end copy I'm not sure if a Tiki tracks edits the way a Wiki does but if it's the same, then all edits would be recorded including who the author of the edit was. My apologies if you've already seen this post. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:jlar...@charter.net Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Let's write an English manual for The Bat! that is suitable for printing
Hello Eddie, Sunday, December 14, 2008, 9:28:04 AM, you wrote: EC Dear Jack, EC-- Sonntag, 14. Dezember 2008, 15:09:25: - copy of message sent to list 11/30 - EC Reading /and/ understanding what you read doesn't work as is should al EC time. I just figure out that you made a copy of the your post into EC your response to me. A first and (too) quick look made me believe it EC was another posting. No problem. It's awfully early on a Sunday morning to expect our brains to function 100%. I know mine doesn't. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:jlar...@charter.net Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.0.38.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic forwarding on deletion
Hello ETM, Monday, January 5, 2009, 10:11:26 AM, you wrote: I checked FOLDER/PROPERTIES/DELETION but the only options seem to be moving to a folder or marking for deletion (on compression, I assume.) E I believe you can use Edit when setting up the E filter and forward it before deleting it. E -- E Elaine I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I need to be able to first examine these spam messages to make sure K9 didn't incorrectly flag one as spam. Having assured myself that they are in fact spam, I would ordinarily delete them but *now* I would like TB! to forward them automatically before deleting them from the SPAM folder. BTW, as you can see from the above quoted text, your cut mark doesn't appear to be working. If it was, then everything below the cut mark, including the cut mark, would not have been quoted. The format for the cut mark is [DASH][DASH][SPACE][ENTER]. -- Best regards, Jackmailto:jlar...@charter.net Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic forwarding on deletion
Fellow list members, I'm using K9 as a spam filter and it flags all it considers spam with the string -SPAM- in the subject field. I have a filter set up which catches these flagged messages and routes them to a folder called SPAM. I would like to be able to have these messages automatically forwarded to the government spam office (s...@uce.gov) whenever I DELETE one of these messages or EMPTY the spam folder. I checked FOLDER/PROPERTIES/DELETION but the only options seem to be moving to a folder or marking for deletion (on compression, I assume.) Can this be done? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic forwarding on deletion
Hello tracer, Monday, January 5, 2009, 2:51:40 PM, you wrote: t Hello Jack, t Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:38:05 AM, you wrote: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I need to be able to first examine these spam messages to make sure K9 didn't incorrectly flag one as spam. Having assured myself that they are in fact spam, I would ordinarily delete them but *now* I would like TB! to forward them automatically before deleting them from the SPAM folder. t One question at present: are you sure this K9 does such a good job t that you want to use it and when deleting something route it to t some government office? Seems like a good idea. The government address came from Kim Komando (komando.com) as a place to send spam messages where, hopefully, it will help them (the government) deal with the proliferation of spam. t Can you get rid of msg's flagged for spam by mistake but you t still don't want to see them and/or send them? I'm not sure I understand your question. All messages fetched from the server are automatically routed thru K9 *before* they land in my inbox. K9 adds the string -SPAM- to the subject field of any message it deems to be spam. A TB filter then routes any message flagged as such to a spam folder where I can then view and keep or delete. In the past I have been simply deleting correctly flagged spam messages. If it will help reduce the amount of spam filling everybody's inboxes by sending these spam messages to the government address, why not? I'm not enough of a Pollyanna to believe that it will actually have some impact on the amount of spam but, who knows? I'm simply (or not) trying to combine the forwarding with the deleting (one step) rather than forwarding each message before deleting (two steps.) -- Best regards, Jackmailto:jlar...@charter.net Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Leaving messages in inbox
Fellow list members, A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Conveying information with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Leaving messages in inbox
Hello Roelof, Thursday, January 8, 2009, 11:09:50 AM, you wrote: RO Hallo Jack, RO On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:00:44 -0600GMT (8-1-2009, 0:00 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: JSL A long time ago there was a thread on the dangers of leaving messages JSL in the inbox. Unfortunately I no longer remember exactly what the JSL danger was. I searched the archives for the subject line above but JSL found nothing explaining the problem. Does anybody remember? RO Basically it comes to this. RO The Inbox is a high traffic folder: every message that enters your RO message base first arrives in the Inbox, moving and deleting RO (automatically and manually) means another mutation of your Inbox. RO Due to these multiple mutations it's easy for things to go awry. RO There's your first reason not to use the Inbox for permanent storage. RO When your Inbox is large it's more difficult to mutate it then when RO it's small, so using the Inbox for permanent storage makes it more RO likely for things to go awry. RO Of course executing compress and purge daily minimises the chance that RO things go bad. RO I've never had a corrupt Inbox, so I've never been bitten, but in the RO past the issue came up regularly. But why use a mail client with an RO extensive filtering engine like TB when you store everything in the RO Inbox. First let me apologize for the double post (what, me senile?) on the original question. Second, thanks to you and Thomas for answering the question. To see it described as you and Thomas have done makes sense. I remember the warning about this (though not the reason) from years ago and I then promptly created a Faux inbox which is filled with all incoming messages to the primary inbox by a filter. I just couldn't remember why I did it. -- Best regards, Jack mailto:jlar...@charter.net Using TB! v3.99.3 with K9 v1.28 anti spam Windows XP pro 5.1 Build 2600 - Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.7 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Expand threads only when new messages
Fellow list members, For a long time now I've put up with collapsed threads containing new messages, requiring un-collapsing before the new messages can be read. For unknown reasons, it's beginning to annoy me greatly. Is there a way to have TB automatically open collapsed threads whenever a new message in that thread arrives? I keep them collapsed to save screen space. The only reference I've found is in OPTIONS/PREFERENCES/MESSAGES/VIEW MODES where TB can be set to open ALL collapsed threads which takes up a lotta space in the tree. All thoughts and wild assumptions welcomed. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Expand threads only when new messages
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Thursday 12 February 2009 at 10:07:09 PM, in M mid:1616439802.20090212160...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: All thoughts and wild assumptions welcomed. M You could always use the tabs at the bottom of the message list. For M the all tab, maybe remove the tick from expand all threads and for M the unread tab, leave it there. (Probably not what you want because M it then only shows the unread messages in a thread rather than showing M whole threads that contain unread messages) M Or maybe leave all expanded but sort by Unread Messages - then all M threads containing unread messages will appear together at the top of M the list (or at the bottom, depending on settings). The fully read M threads need not bother you then as you would not have to scroll past M them.. Good point. Last night when I read this it didn't seem like anything I would want to have displayed. However, in the cold, gray light of the morn, with a fresh cup of coffee, it doesn't seem like such a bad idea. I'll try it. Thanks M. Sincerely, -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Thankfully not Vista but with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Connectivity pack questions
Fellow listers, Apparently I'm missing something about the archives (http://mail.eberl.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/hplx/ or I'm going to the wrong place. There doesn't seem to be any search function. I'm looking for help in getting my computer to communicate with my 200LX. I can get the Cpack files loaded onto my computer's G: drive and run app200.exe from DosBox where the opening screen will appear (looks like the 200LX screen). I have my LX connected to the serial port on my computer (WinXP Pro) but the computer won't see the LX or vice-versa. At end of the Cpack software installation, the Cpack installer asks if I want the installer to search for the serial port on the computer. I answer yes and I get a message which says it can't find COM2 (or words to that effect). The LX is plugged into the DB9 port on the rear of my computer which I assume is COM1. I'm confused. Do I need to get a USB-to-serial cable (if there is such a thing) and connect the LX to a USB port? Any help will be greatly appreciated. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Connectivity pack questions
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Monday 16 February 2009 at 11:24:48 PM, in M mid:6210696247.20090216172...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow listers, Apparently I'm missing something about the archives (http://mail.eberl.com/cgi-bin/mailman/private/hplx/ or I'm going to the wrong place. There doesn't seem to be any search function. I'm looking for help in getting my computer to communicate with my 200LX. I can get the Cpack files loaded onto my computer's G: drive and run app200.exe from DosBox where the opening screen will appear (looks like the 200LX screen). I have my LX connected to the serial port on my computer (WinXP Pro) but the computer won't see the LX or vice-versa. M Is TBUDL the list you intended to post this to? Whoops! Sorry everybody. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Importing Email Addresses
Hello Tim, TH Hello Jens, TH Monday, February 16, 2009, 11:05:48 AM, you wrote: Montag, 16. Februar 2009 at 18:52, MAU wrote: That's for TBBeta. TBUDL does not allow any attachments. Ok, that makes it clear Upload the File to a Filesharing Area and post the Link here. TH What file sharing area? Box.net was suggested in a previous post. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bat calls home?
Hello ztrader, z TheBat accesses 198.63.208.135 when it starts running. Anyone know why z it does that, who that might be, and what info is sent there? z Thanks, z ztrader z z Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: z http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html If you copy and paste the number into your browser, you'll see that it takes you to the RIT Labs page. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: OT Help request
Hello Rick, R There are some windows gurus on here and I think the answer if known R would benefit all R Here's what I want to do R I want certain folders, when opened from ANY APPLICATION to always R open with thumbnails enabled the way MY PICTURES does. R This can be set to happen in windows explorer or My Computer but it R will not carry over to other programs such as The Bat R I have a specific folder I use for my animations and it always R opens as a list even though it is set in windows as a photo album. R Does anyone know the setting or registry entry so I don't have to R constantly change this to Thumbnails each time I access the folder from a program? Here using Win XP pro I go to START CONTROL PANEL FOLDER OPTIONS and click on the VIEW tab. Near the bottom of the folder options is a one which says Remember each folder's view settings. Although for me that selection was already ticked, I too had been having problems with photo folders opening showing DETAILS instead of thumbnails regardless of which state they were in when I last closed them. I un-ticked the option and then re-ticked it which caused the APPLY button to become active. I clicked on APPLY and closed CONTROL PANEL. I then went to a pictures folder and opened it (it opened in DETAILS view) and changed the view to THUMBNAILS and closed the folder. When I re-opened the folder, it was still set to THUMBNAILS. I changed the VIEW to DETAILS, closed the folder and then re-opened it to find that it was still set to DETAILS. I changed the VIEW again back to THUMBNAILS, closed the folder and then re-opened it to find the view still set to THUMBNAILS. So it would seem that somewhere along the way that option became corrupted. It appears that un-ticking and re-ticking the Remember each folder's view settings has fixed the corruption. Thanks for your question, it's helped me and might help you. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Multple addresses in TO field
Fellow list members, Having recently accidentally violated the email etiquette rule about putting multiple addresses in the TO field, I got to wondering... Does TB have any method (setting) which would warn the sender that he/she is about to send a message where all recipients would be able to see all addresses to whom the message was sent? Something like the warning you get when you forget to put something in the SUBJECT field perhaps? I looked in OPTIONS/PREFERENCES/OTHER OPTIONS/CONFIRMATIONS where I found the one about empty subject field, but nothing about multiple addresses in the TO field. A later version of TB maybe? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multple addresses in TO field
Hello Rick, Fellow list members, Having recently accidentally violated the email etiquette rule about putting multiple addresses in the TO field, I got to wondering... Does TB have any method (setting) which would warn the sender that he/she is about to send a message where all recipients would be able to see all addresses to whom the message was sent? Something like the warning you get when you forget to put something in the SUBJECT field perhaps? I looked in OPTIONS/PREFERENCES/OTHER OPTIONS/CONFIRMATIONS where I found the one about empty subject field, but nothing about multiple addresses in the TO field. A later version of TB maybe? R I'm not sure that IS etiquette. I worked in an IBM facility and it was R common practice to send something TO: two or three primaries and CC: R several others. R I know what you're saying; If someone else needs to read this email I R should use the CC line. I'm not really sure it rates a warning R message. Thanks to Rick and Roelof for replying. Actually, I was taught that whenever sending a message to multiple recipients who may or may not know each other, it is considered prudent NOT to include everyone in the TO field. Some people desire to keep their email address confidential for their own reasons. I can see however where in a business environment it may be acceptable, even necessary perhaps to have all recipients contained in the TO field. Although in retrospect, I wonder why even that would be necessary as the original post, now saved in the SENT mail folder, would be available as proof that all necessary recipients were included. In a non-business environment, my understanding of the accepted method is to address the message to YOURSELF and place everyone else's address in the BCC (blind carbon copy) field. That way, each recipient sees the message addressed to them and the other addresses are not visible. As mentioned in the original post, I accidently sent a message to family and friends and without realizing it, placed all addresses in the TO field. So easy to do from the AB. As a consequence, my daughter is now receiving messages from her cousin with whom she may or may not wish to maintain correspondence. No biggie, but I wish TB would keep a closer eye on me. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multple addresses in TO field
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jack, TF On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:34:36 -0500 GMT (19/Mar/09, 22:34 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: snipped for brevity JSL As mentioned in the original post, I accidently sent a message to JSL family and friends and without realizing it, placed all addresses JSL in the TO field. So easy to do from the AB. As a consequence, my JSL daughter is now receiving messages from her cousin with whom she JSL may or may not wish to maintain correspondence. No biggie, but I JSL wish TB would keep a closer eye on me. TF Sorry, TB! can't know that. I am sorry to hear that your daughter and TF her cousin are now in touch. I am sorry, but what again is the TF problem? Probably none. In this case. It's just that in today's world where personal emails probably surpass business emails in quantity, the etiquette of concealing other addresses I assume, would be appreciated by many. In which case, a trigger alerting the sender of multiple addresses in the TO field might be appreciated. Personally, if person A asks me for the email address of person B, I never give it out without asking person B if it's ok to do so. I wish only that TB made sure I adhered to this rule when sending to multiple addresses. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multple addresses in TO field
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jack, TF On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:40:39 -0500 GMT (20/Mar/09, 1:40 +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL [...] As a consequence, my daughter is now receiving messages JSL from her cousin with whom she may or may not wish to maintain JSL correspondence. No biggie, but I wish TB would keep a closer JSL eye on me. TF Sorry, TB! can't know that. I am sorry to hear that your daughter and TF her cousin are now in touch. I am sorry, but what again is the TF problem? JSL Probably none. In this case. TF I'm so relieved to hear that. JSL It's just that in today's world where personal emails probably surpass JSL business emails in quantity, TF OMG! I'm glad that my experience is different. 126 business email TF today. Many of them I can answer with a short notice. Private emails I TF answer with more personal concern for the people. I couldn't handle TF 126 personal emails a day. JSL the etiquette of concealing other addresses I assume, would be JSL appreciated by many. TF Yes, absolutely. I have been angered many times by people CC'ing me in TF to a funny mail to a hundred people I don't know. As have I. Most annoying. JSL In which case, a trigger alerting the sender of multiple JSL addresses in the TO field might be appreciated. TF And the CC field. And the warning will be ignored. I guarantee you TF that people who put multiple addresses in TO or CC fields don;t even TF think for a moment what they do, and they will click the warning away TF without even reading it. Probably. But since most (some?, a few?) of us agree in this matter, a tickle in the ear of RIT Labs might be in order. JSL Personally, if person A asks me for the email address of person JSL B, I never give it out without asking person B if it's ok to JSL do so. I wish only that TB made sure I adhered to this rule when JSL sending to multiple addresses. TF TB! cannot do that, only education can. TB! cannot do that YET. Perhaps in a future version? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multple addresses in TO field
Hello Dwight, DC On Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:01:46 AM, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Does TB have any method (setting) which would warn the sender that he/she is about to send a message where all recipients would be able to see all addresses to whom the message was sent? DC that would certainly be a nuisance whenever you needed to send a DC message to more than one person on purpose. As far as I know it's only DC rude to address mail to people with visible addresses is when DC forwarding jokes and chain letters. If you want someone to be able to DC use the reply to all function, they have to be able to see all the DC addresses. Ideally it would be a user selectable option much like the Sending message with empty subject confirmation which exists now. Those who found it annoying or troublesome could simply disable it. BTW, I tried to send this suggestion to The Bat! Wish address (w...@thebat.net) but it bounced back. Does anybody know if there's still such a wish list address? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Multple addresses in TO field
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Monday 23 March 2009 at 5:06:56 PM, in M mid:688318481.20090323120...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: BTW, I tried to send this suggestion to The Bat! Wish address (w...@thebat.net) but it bounced back. Does anybody know if there's still such a wish list address? M Go to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ and log it under the Bat! wishes. M You have to sign up first. Thank you. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What are these chracters?
Fellow list members, I've notice for a long time (probably ever since I started using TB!) that every time I forward a message, I get this: ===8==Original message text=== Body of quoted text ===8===End of original message text=== What are the 8 characters which always appear where you see them? If it means anything, my editor is always set to Plain Text(MicroEd). They aren't in the reply templates and they appear no matter to whom the reply is sent. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What are these chracters?
Hello Mark, MP Hello Jack, MP Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:33:01 PM, you wrote: JSL I've notice for a long time (probably ever since I started using TB!) JSL that every time I forward a message, I get this: JSL ===8==Original message text=== JSL Body of quoted text JSL ===8===End of original message text=== JSL What are the 8 characters which always appear where you see them? JSL If it means anything, my editor is always set to Plain Text(MicroEd). JSL They aren't in the reply templates and they appear no matter to whom JSL the reply is sent. MP It's an eight 8 and a representing scissors! Scissors Gads! Well, it was lost on me. Thanks to all who replied. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.1.11 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Test of message from Verizon account
Hello Leonard, LSB I have been having trouble posting to the list from my primary LSB account. I am posting this in the hope that the problem has been LSB solved. LSB Thanks. It certainly looks like you've solved your problem! -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Hangs
Hello Tim, TH Hello Tim, TH This must not be happening to anyone else except me? Anyone have TH any solutions to what might be going on? TH Thursday, June 25, 2009, 9:45:20 AM, you wrote: Hello TBUDL, Does anyone have the answer why Firefox and IE hang all the time when trying to launch from TB? It seems this problem has gotten worse with TB's new release. Installed any add-ons in FF lately? I sometimes get an error message from within TB saying FF can't do something (don't remember what) yet FF launches anyway. That all started (I think) when I installed the NO-SCRIPT add-on in FF. Since IE is not configured as my default browser, it's never launched from within TB. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sorry: a test
Hello Privateofcourse, P Hi, P This is what you said on Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:36:10 -0400 your time: My hosting service reports no problems after I enquired. This arrived on the list P Thanks. P After more problems I opted to move my domain elsewhere, and not it's hosted P in a different part of the world to where it was. Unfortunately, I'm still P having problems. P I'm recieving mail from the list but mail I send isn't getting to the list. P Of course if this gets to the list it'll be luck. P Think I'll have to email Marck. You might have to go on the web to your TBUDL mailing list membership configuration page and enable the Mail delivery option to get your postings sent to you as well as the rest of the list members. Just a thought. HTH. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Fellow list members, Anyone else having trouble logging onto the subject website? I have a working username and password but after entering them in the appropriate boxes, the site starts to load (according to the Firefox progress bar at the bottom of the login page) but never finishes. Sometimes it never even starts. I have noticed this problem in the past as it seems to come and go. I was trying to get my picture uploaded to the Rogues Gallery a few days ago and it looked like I was finally successful (after resizing it numerous times), but now I'm not sure if it ever got there. I received no confirmation that it had been accepted. BTW, was I supposed to have named the photo file with my handle (:Deuxdad:)? 'Cause I neglected to do that. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jens, TF On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:58:37 +0200 GMT (21/Jul/09, 6:58 +0700 GMT), TF Jens Franik wrote: Anyone else having trouble logging onto the subject website? JF Since Years, but there is nobody which is able to fix it with a new JF Coding of the Scripts... TF It's Leif's site, and I think he doesn't read this list any more. I'll TF contact him by PM. Thanks Thomas. Also thanks to all who replied. At least I now know that it's not my problem alone. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Monday 20 July 2009 at 10:57:56 PM, in M mid:1944525702.20090720165...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Anyone else having trouble logging onto the subject website? I have a working username and password but after entering them in the appropriate boxes, the site starts to load (according to the Firefox progress bar at the bottom of the login page) but never finishes. Sometimes it never even starts. I have noticed this problem in the past as it seems to come and go. M Same here, on and off. I was trying to get my picture uploaded to the Rogues Gallery a few days ago and it looked like I was finally successful (after resizing it numerous times), but now I'm not sure if it ever got there. I received no confirmation that it had been accepted. M When I uploaded mine in November 2004 I had four rejected before one M was accepted. The rejection and acceptance emails arrived a few days M after uploading in each case. M If yours has been received it is not yet in the rogues.zip file: I M just dowmloaded it and looked - the newest one was updated in April. M They are so infrequent now that I doubt Leif looks that often. Before M April 2009, the previous updates were January 2009, August 2008, M December 2007, November 2006, June 2006. More frequent before that and M 82 of the 144 were uploaded between mid-June 2004 and Mid-August 2004. BTW, was I supposed to have named the photo file with my handle (:Deuxdad:)? 'Cause I neglected to do that. M I think you are supposed to but my handle is :MFPA: and the image I M uploaded as MFPA.jpg got renamed to MFPA_.jpg, so I guess it can't M matter much if the name needs altering. (-; M I also see the URL http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/getrogue.php?id=:mfpa: M is not currently displaying my image but instead the text, URL: M http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/smileys/rogues/MFPA_.jpg Type: rogue. It M is shown as text, not a clickable link but copy and paste into the M address bar and it does show my photo. And a charming photo it is. Now if only you could separate your middle and ring fingers. Thanks MFPA, I appreciate all the information I've received. I do hope Leif, or someone, attends to this as I enjoy being able to see list members in the flesh, so to speak. I feel like a voyeur sometimes because *my* picture isn't in the gallery. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.6 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Hello Simon, S 'Ello MFPA, S On Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:11:53 +0100 (your time) you said: Looks like Leif's attended to it. I just logged on without any issues. S Can't login from here. Same as usual, just sits there and does nothing. Just FYI Simon, I was able to successfully log on also. Wish I could suggest something for you to check. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.9.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: If a URL ends with a bracket, TB! will not make that bracket part of the link
Hello MFPA, M Hi M I just noticed when including the following URL in a message:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon_(signals_intelligence) M that TB! does not treat the closing bracket as part of the link. M I'm using MicroEd, in case it makes a difference. I'm not sure what's going on here. This reply, as I type it in plaintext (MicroEd), shows the closing parenthesis as part of the URL (it's blue) as long as I delete the leading M. However, all other replies to your original post DO NOT include the closing parenthesis as part of the URL (they're not blue). I suspect I'm missing the whole point of this thread here and should probably keep my big mouth out of it but curiously, when you click on the (complete) link, it takes you to a Wikipedia page whose title is MISSING the closing parenthesis. Is TB! trying to tell us something? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7
Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. Both my wife and I are running TB! v3.99.3, she using Vista Home Premium and me using XP Pro. She took advantage of the pre-purchase offer a few months ago and we have received notice from MS that the package has been shipped. Based on what I've read about W7 since then, I'm starting to get worried about what is and is not going to run. Can anybody assuage my concerns? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Marek, MM Hello all, MM Saturday, October 24, 2009, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow list members, Well, I'm pretty sure I searched the archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) correctly and didn't find anything useful regarding how TB! is going to work w/Windows 7, or even *IF* it's going to work. MM first version of The Bat! tested for compatibility with Windows 7 is MM 4.2.10, check MM http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2931 Thanks for the info Marek. I'll download and install version 4.2.10 before we load W7 onto her machine. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7
Fellow list members, Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? I have no objections to the purchase but I'd hate to spend the money if it's not necessary. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Jernej, JS On Saturday, October 24, 2009, 20:02:48, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Since the consensus seems to be that in order to ensure compatibility with W7 I'll need to upgrade to at least 4.0.38 (thanks Doug), will I have to purchase the upgrade or will my 3.99.3 key enable the upgrade? JS IIRC, 4.0.38 is the last version that works with 3.x keys. You need to JS buy an upgrade for 4.1.0 and newer (note that 4.1 also changes the JS message store format, so you cannot downgrade from it to 4.0.38). Which brings up a question. If by message store format you mean the actual format in which the messages were stored, fine. I can understand older versions not being able to understand the newer format. However, with earlier versions messages were stored on the disk in the MAIL folder buried in C:\Program Files\The Bat!\MAIL\Jack S. LaRosa\inbox The above location contains a file called MESSAGES.TBB which I believe are the actual messages. There's also a file called MESSAGES.TBI whose function is a mystery to me. After the change in the message store format was instituted with 4.1, where are messages stored now? TIA -- Jack LaRosamailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 3.99.3 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
v4.0.38 question
Fellow list members, Based on the responses I got from the Windows 7 thread I went ahead and upgraded to 4.0.38. I am delighted to find that TB! now displays images contained in HTML messages. However, I notice that the extreme right edge of an image is cut off. I subscribe to a site which sends me a comic-a-day (Calvin and Hobbs) and the extreme right side of the last frame of the strip is cut off. Not much, maybe about a quarter of an inch on my monitor. Any idea why this might be? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Windows 7
Fellow list members, Just thought I'd give everyone an update. Windows 7 arrived today and I successfully loaded it onto my wife's laptop which *had been* running Vista Home Premium. TB! v4.0.38 seems to be behaving just fine so far. Many thanks to all who contributed their expertise on this question. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Windows 7
Hello Stuart, SC Hello Jack, SC A reminder of what Jack S. LaRosa typed on: SC Thursday, October 29, 2009 at 00:26:10 GMT -0600 JSL Just thought I'd give everyone an update. Windows 7 arrived today and JSL I successfully loaded it onto my wife's laptop which *had been* running Vista JSL Home Premium. TB! v4.0.38 seems to be behaving just fine so far. JSL Many thanks to all who contributed their expertise on this question. SC Congratulations. Can you now confirm the following bug: SC Using Windows 7 RTM, when I open SmartBat there is no icon showing up in the SC taskbar. If I then change the focus to another window SmartBat disappears and SC needs to be reopened. At this point if you had scrolled up the page in SmartBat SC you position would have been lost. SC If so please confirm here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7748 Unfortunately I have never used SmartBat and don't even know what it's used for. I would be happy to provide you with results of whatever step-by-step procedure you provide for me to follow although I see that at this time there are already two confirmations at the above web page. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 4.0.38 question
Fellow list members, Fellow list members, Since I've now upgraded to v4.0.38 from 3.99 I notice that every time I generate an email, either new, reply, forward or redirect, the new window which opens is shifted so that the right edge is off screen and I have to drag the window back to the left. It always does this. Any ideas as to how I can fix this? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.38 question
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Sunday 1 November 2009 at 8:51:16 PM, in M mid:1378994389.20091101145...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Since I've now upgraded to v4.0.38 from 3.99 I notice that every time I generate an email, either new, reply, forward or redirect, the new window which opens is shifted so that the right edge is off screen and I have to drag the window back to the left. It always does this. M If I do not have the message window maximised, the left edge lines up M roughly with the numbers in my unread messages column of the M (full-height) account tree, and the top edge overlaps the column M headers in my message list. Here the left edge lines up with the TOTAL column and the top edge lies just below my message list column headers. This may be attributable to the difference in our monitors (I'm just guessing). M The size is remembered but the position on screen is not. Maximise M the window and it opens maximised next time. Same here. Any ideas as to how I can fix this? M Option 1: Maximise the new message window M Option 2: Reduce the width How? Once the window is maximized, I can't get the cursor to any of the edges to drag them back towards the center. M Option 3: Possibly, edit the position in the registry Sounds like the best solution but where in the registry? The inability of TB! to remember window positions seems to me to be a bug. Surely by now someone has reported it? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4.0.38 question
Hello Stuart, SC Hello Jack, SC Sunday, November 1, 2009, 2:51:16 PM, you wrote: JSL Since I've now upgraded to v4.0.38 from 3.99 I notice that every time JSL I generate an email, either new, reply, forward or redirect, the new JSL window which opens is shifted so that the right edge is off screen and JSL I have to drag the window back to the left. It always does this. SC Try opening your reply. Adjust the position as you would like it to appear. SC Then go to the View menu and select Store Window Position. Excellent Stuart!!! Works exactly as you described although it took me a minute to realize the VIEW menu to which you were referring is the one in the reply, new, redirect, or forward window, NOT the main window. Thank you and thanks to all who replied with their solutions. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP password
Hello Miguel, M Hello Jack, My problem is that I've used TB! for so long that I no longer remember what my ISP's password is. The ACCOUNT|PROPERTIES|TRANSPORT screen of course shows only dots where my password is. Is there any way to view the actual password? M Download SIW (freeware) from http://www.gtopala.com/ and use the Eureka! M Tool to reveal passwords. M Aside of that, SIW is a very good System Information software for M Windows. Thank you. It worked perfectly. Now all I have to do is find out if this new login requirement is going to prevent TB! from logging in to my ISP. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP password
Hello Roelof, RO Hallo Jack, RO On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 08:16:39 -0600GMT (5-11-2009, 15:16 +0100, where I RO live), you wrote: JSL The ACCOUNT|PROPERTIES|TRANSPORT screen of JSL course shows only dots where my password is. Is there any way to view JSL the actual password? RO Enable protocol logging for mail retrieval. RO Your password (and username) will be displayed in clear text. Thank you Roelof. That's a little easier than Miguel's suggestion although the SIW program he suggested sure returns a lot of information. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP password
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Thursday 5 November 2009 at 7:52:01 PM, in M mid:1836385365.20091105135...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Thank you. It worked perfectly. Now all I have to do is find out if this new login requirement is going to prevent TB! from logging in to my ISP. M If so, it would probably prevent most other mail software as well. Agreed. I take that knowledge as some small guarantee that it won't cause me any trouble as I assume Charter Cable wouldn't want a pitchfork and torches assault on their corporate offices. M You will probably tack your ZIP onto the end of your username or M password, perhaps with a defined separator character. Hmmm, doubtful. The picture they provided as representing the new login screen showed a separate field for the zip code. We'll see. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ISP password
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Saturday 7 November 2009 at 2:37:39 PM, in M mid:118770178.20091107083...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Hmmm, doubtful. The picture they provided as representing the new login screen showed a separate field for the zip code. We'll see. M http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r23297188-Email-from-Charter-about-adding-Zip-Code-to-login M suggests the change is only for webmail access It looks like you're right. Although, the meaning of the notice doesn't exactly leap right out at you does it? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
Hello Simon (and Thomas), S 'Ello Thomas, S On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:11:14 +0700 (your time) you said: I confirm that a couple of millimeters are cut off the comic strip at the right side, rendering it unviewable in TB!. S I can confirm that also. Exactly 18 pixels is cut off and not S displayed. So, just under 5mm, or 4.7625mm. ;-) Ok, well that seems to prove that it's not my monitor causing it. So, should someone (who, me???) report it as a bug or is it just too insignificant a problem to merit RIT Labs looking into it? My extremely limited (and simplistic) experience coding tells me it could be something as simple as a typo in the code specifying panel width. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jack, TF On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:31:45 -0600 GMT (09/Nov/09, 23:31 PM +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: S I can confirm that also. Exactly 18 pixels is cut off and not S displayed. So, just under 5mm, or 4.7625mm. ;-) JSL Ok, well that seems to prove that it's not my monitor causing it. JSL So, should someone (who, me???) report it as a bug? TF Yes you, as you were the first one to discover the bug. ;-) TF Please post the full URL here and I will support. I'm not sure to which URL you're referring. If I click on the attachment (Message.HTML) which accompanies the email from Uclick, the resulting URL which appears in Firefox's address bar is: file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/bat/Message%284%29.html However, if I *then* click on the SHARE button which appears at the bottom of the comic strip, the resulting URL becomes: http://www.gocomics.com/features/32/feature_items/457715 If you can clear up my confusion regarding the URLs, I'd be happy to report this as a bug if you can also instruct me on how to do that. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jack, TF On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:31:45 -0600 GMT (09/Nov/09, 23:31 PM +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: S I can confirm that also. Exactly 18 pixels is cut off and not S displayed. So, just under 5mm, or 4.7625mm. ;-) JSL Ok, well that seems to prove that it's not my monitor causing it. JSL So, should someone (who, me???) report it as a bug TF Yes you, as you were the first one to discover the bug. ;-) TF Please post the full URL here and I will support. JSL or is it just too insignificant a problem to merit RIT Labs JSL looking into it? TF I certainly hope not! JSL My extremely limited (and simplistic) experience coding tells me JSL it could be something as simple as a typo in the code specifying JSL panel width. TF I wouldn't know about that and trust that they will fix it quickly. Ok Thomas. I'm not sure I did this correctly but here's the link: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
Hello Bill, BM On Tue, 2009-11-10, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I'm not sure to which URL you're referring. If I click on the attachment (Message.HTML) which accompanies the email from Uclick, the resulting URL which appears in Firefox's address bar is: file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/bat/Message%284%29.html However, if I *then* click on the SHARE button which appears at the bottom of the comic strip, the resulting URL becomes: http://www.gocomics.com/features/32/feature_items/457715 If you can clear up my confusion regarding the URLs, I'd be happy to report this as a bug if you can also instruct me on how to do that. BM As explained in another response, the Bug report URL is probably the one he BM meant. BM However, in the Bug Report itself, the URL of the problem page should BM appear. This should be the second one you mentioned (www.gocomics.com) BM since the first one is merely the temporary copy used by TB to invoke your BM browser. Thanks Bill. I'm afraid I probably screwed up reporting this bug but here's the link to what I did: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: v4.0.38 question - HTML display problem
Hello Bill, BM On Tue, 2009-11-10, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I'm not sure to which URL you're referring. If I click on the attachment (Message.HTML) which accompanies the email from Uclick, the resulting URL which appears in Firefox's address bar is: file:///C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/bat/Message%284%29.html However, if I *then* click on the SHARE button which appears at the bottom of the comic strip, the resulting URL becomes: http://www.gocomics.com/features/32/feature_items/457715 If you can clear up my confusion regarding the URLs, I'd be happy to report this as a bug if you can also instruct me on how to do that. BM As explained in another response, the Bug report URL is probably the one he BM meant. BM However, in the Bug Report itself, the URL of the problem page should BM appear. This should be the second one you mentioned (www.gocomics.com) BM since the first one is merely the temporary copy used by TB to invoke your BM browser. Well, hopefully I've finally managed to correctly report this bug. However, it occurs to me to ask if anyone using a later version of TB! has experienced the same failure of TB! to properly render some HTML images? Unfortunately I can't think of a way to test this using these comic strips without actually subscribing to the strips. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Text vs HTML word wrapping
Fellow Batties, I just noticed something which I don't quite understand. I received an HTML message which displays properly, in that the text does not go all the way to the end of the screen. However, if I click on REPLY, the resulting HTML reply screen has the text of the original message running way off the right edge of the screen necessitating the use of the slider at the bottom of the screen. I have checked my preferences which can be seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/86585...@n00/4114670141/ and they seem to be ok although I'm not sure these preferences are applicable to a reply. Is there any way to insure that an HTML reply won't have text running off the screen? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.10.0 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bug tracker notification
Fellow list members, Can someone tell me what this means? The following issue has been RESOLVED. == https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 == It says that the issue is fixed but the status is verify wait. Since I am *NOT* running the latest and greatest version of TB! does this mean that at some point I'll have to upgrade to see the results of this fix? Say it ain't so. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Hello Rick, [Reply to: »Marck D Pearlstone« · 2009-10-09 · 10:14 h (CET)] Moin, Marck! [www.pcwize.com/thebat] Holy cow!!! Thanks for the heads up. I paid for ten years back in '99 and forgot to update my contact info. It had expired. Took me a while on the phone with the registrar to get it taken care of. ... and now the site is back! I tried to upload my roguemoticon, but it failed: Hello Volker, Your account details have been updated. /extract Cheers! VA R This is just totally a failed and broken feature. I gave up on trying R to upload a graphic months ago after wasting a LOT of time While I'm not sure it's just totally a failed and broken feature, I never could get it to work either. Maybe we're doing something wrong. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker notification
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Friday 18 December 2009 at 3:47:35 PM, in M mid:17210726473.20091218094...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Fellow list members, Can someone tell me what this means? The following issue has been RESOLVED. == https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 == It says that the issue is fixed but the status is verify wait. Since I am *NOT* running the latest and greatest version of TB! does this mean that at some point I'll have to upgrade to see the results of this fix? Say it ain't so. M It *is* so. Whatever they fix or don't fix will not alter the copy of M The Bat! installed on your machine. (-; I may be old and senile but I'm not senile enough to expect my current version to be magically upgraded. I more or less knew the answer to my question before I asked it but I was hoping against hope that there might be a way to get the fix without paying for an upgrade. Alas, 'twas not to be. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: www.pcwize.com/thebat/
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Friday 18 December 2009 at 6:11:44 PM, in M mid:1004627629.20091218121...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: While I'm not sure it's just totally a failed and broken feature, I never could get it to work either. Maybe we're doing something wrong. M This feature works for the photos and handles that are already in the M database but there seems to be an issue with submitting new ones. I M have received three emails notifying me you have joined but the M rogues.zip does not include your image, nor is it referenced in the M rogues.msl file. Your name is on the rogues gallery at M http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.php but your picture cannot be M displayed. Thanks M. I see what you mean. I suppose it's progress of a sort. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker notification
Hello MFPA, M Hi M On Friday 18 December 2009 at 6:17:56 PM, in M mid:464214305.20091218121...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I may be old and senile M You *may* be but I have no reason to believe one way or the other (-; but I'm not senile enough to expect my current version to be magically upgraded. M Sorry, I just couldn't resist interpreting your question that way... I more or less knew the answer to my question before I asked it but I was hoping against hope that there might be a way to get the fix without paying for an upgrade. M I had not spotted you are on version 4.0.38 like me, and would need to M pay for any upgrade. I rarely view messages in HTML so this one M doesn't affect me, but there are a couple of bugs reportedly fixed M since 4.0.38 that I'm looking forward to seeing the back of when I can M upgrade. Actually, the incomplete rendering of those particular HTML images has little consequence for me also. I brought it up merely as an indication of an error which may have been propagated through all subsequent upgrades and if so, would require attention. It would be difficult to brag about TB! being the absolute *BEST* email client knowing a bug existed. I've found no other shortcomings with 4.0.38 so far so I'll probably just stay with it. I do appreciate your input though. I trust you interpreted my previous message as being posted with tongue being firmly planted in cheek? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker notification
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jack, TF On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:47:35 -0600 GMT (18/Dec/09, 22:47 PM +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Can someone tell me what this means? JSL The following issue has been RESOLVED. JSL == JSL https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7775 JSL == JSL It says that the issue is fixed but the status is verify wait. TF They are waiting for someone to confirm that it's fixed. I just did TF the honours. JSL Since I am *NOT* running the latest and greatest version of TB! does JSL this mean that at some point I'll have to upgrade to see the results JSL of this fix? JSL Say it ain't so. TF Of course it is so. They cannot fix bugs retrospectively, it's fixed TF in the next beta version, which I did download to verify. It will be TF fixed in the next release version. Thank you Thomas. I knew that I'd have to upgrade to see any fixes; I just didn't want to have to do that. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net :deuxdad: Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Bug tracker notification
Hello Thomas, TF Hello Jack, TF On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:56:22 -0600 GMT (21/Dec/09, 20:56 PM +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: TF Of course it is so. They cannot fix bugs retrospectively, it's fixed TF in the next beta version, which I did download to verify. It will be TF fixed in the next release version. JSL Thank you Thomas. I knew that I'd have to upgrade to see any fixes; I JSL just didn't want to have to do that. TF No problem. My bill for the Consultancy Fee is in the mail. As is my remittance. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.12.4 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Unwanted view changing
Fellow list members, I have my screen set up as follows: -- || | || | |Account tree|Emails contained in selected folder| || from account tree | || | || | || || || || || | View of selected email| | from selected folder | | (Preview pane?)| || || -- Whenever I click on an HTML email it is immediately displayed with the very top of the email showing in the preview pane and I have to scroll down to see the rest of the email. However, since upgrading to v4.0.38 I find that after scrolling down, a second or two later the view will immediately pop back up to the top of the email. I then have to scroll back down to where I was in order to continue reading. Usually it will happen a second time as I'm reading but seldom more than twice. Nothing appears to have changed in what I was seeing so I'm ruling out some kind of update to the display although I can't think of any other reason why it might do this. Ideas? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Unwanted view changing
Hello Thomas, On Sunday, January 31, 2010 you wrote: TF Hello Jack, TF On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 07:25:32 -0600 GMT (31/Jan/10, 20:25 PM +0700 GMT), TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote: JSL Whenever I click on an HTML email it is immediately displayed with the JSL very top of the email showing in the preview pane and I have to scroll JSL down to see the rest of the email. However, since upgrading to v4.0.38 JSL I find that after scrolling down, a second or two later the view will JSL immediately pop back up to the top of the email. I then have to scroll JSL back down to where I was in order to continue reading. Usually it will JSL happen a second time as I'm reading but seldom more than twice. TF I can confirm that this has happened to me. Well, that's a comfort. JSL Nothing appears to have changed in what I was seeing so I'm ruling out JSL some kind of update to the display although I can't think of any other JSL reason why it might do this. TF I assume that the mail (with all pcitures) has not been completely TF downloaded when I start reading, and for each picture downloaded, the TF screen jumps to the top again. That would seem to be a good explanation but I don't ever recall seeing any changes in the content of the email. I suppose a good test would be to simply wait several seconds before scrolling down the message. If it was being caused by a not-yet-completed download, it shouldn't happen if you wait before scrolling. I'll try it. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Image display problems
Fellow list members, I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it. Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and shows up in the side pane as such. The remainder of the pictures are actually embedded in the body of the email. The problem is that no matter how I configure OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-VIEWER/EDITOR, only the first picture (the attachment) displays depending on how the VIEWER/EDITOR preferences are set. The remainder (the embedded ones) either don't appear in any way, shape or form or they appear as empty boxes, again depending on how I set the options for the VIEWER/EDITOR. This same email when sent to my Gmail account readily displays ALL of the pictures assuming I click on the DISPLAY IMAGES BELOW which is contained in the IMAGES ARE NOT DISPLAYED box. Ideas? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Image display problems
Hello Rick, On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 you wrote: Fellow list members, I received an email which has several pictures embedded in it. Actually, for unknown reasons, the first picture is an attachment and shows up in the side pane as such. The remainder of the pictures are actually embedded in the body of the email. This same email when sent to my Gmail account readily displays ALL of the pictures assuming I click on the DISPLAY IMAGES BELOW which is contained in the IMAGES ARE NOT DISPLAYED box. Ideas? R I get this a lot in Yahoo groups. There is one image that can be R viewed. Open the index.html and they SHOULD all be visible except the R one that was visible in the message. If so, the issue is external R links in the email R The fix is for Ritlabs to add a button to show external links in this R email Hmmm, interesting. While viewing the email in TB I have two icons in the left pane: MESSAGE.HTML and ATT1.JPG; the ATT1.JPG being the sole image viewable from within TB. If I double-click on the MESSAGE.HTML icon it causes my browser (FireFox) to be launched and lo, all the images appear *except* the ATT1.JPG image just as you describe. Never thought to try this with previous problematic emails from this person. Has this been brought to RIT Labs attention? Thank you Rick. I'll try this on the next message I have trouble with from this person. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Lost All My Emails
Hello Tim, On Friday, March 19, 2010 you wrote: TH Hello Rick, TH Thursday, March 18, 2010, 7:56:37 PM, you wrote: Hello Tbudl, I just retrieved 28 emails or so I thought? TB retrieved 28 emails from my server but lost every single one of them. They are nowhere to be found in any of my folders. I have looked through every single one of them including Junk and Trash and they are simply not there. This is the first time TB has done this and I am just coming back on board using TB from a long sabbatical from using Barca2. Now, I wish I would have stayed with Barca2. I have never lost emails before... does anyone know what possibly could have happened and where these emails went to? It's as if they simply vanished in Cyberspace thanks to TB. Just a fast thought trying to help: get on top of the inbox for the account and view deleted messages controlB and see if the show that way. TH My mistake, what a dope I am. It appears my plugin for Agava was set TH to delete spam messages with a score of 80+, the only problem was, TH AGAVA was deleting everything. I switched from AntiSpamSniper to TH Agava AntiSpamServant because AntiSpamSniper takes forever to scan TH email. Just out of curiosity and I was wondering if anyone can tell TH me what the best AntiSpam filter is for TB? Thanks for your help and TH the trouble in advance. In days of yore when this question was asked of the list, the reply was frequently K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html) which I have used since then. Upon request K9 displays ALL received email and gives *YOU* the choice to flag selected messages as spam. It became routine for me to fetch my emails and then immediately look at what K9 had for me. I would then flag those spam messages as such so that K9 would learn what to look for next time. Do a search for K9 at: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/ and see what all the discussions were at the time. My incidence of spam now is almost non-existent. I *MIGHT* receive one or two spam emails per month now. Is it because of K9? I don't know and I don't care but I'm stick'n with K9. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Lost All My Emails
Hello Tim, On Monday, March 22, 2010 you wrote: In days of yore when this question was asked of the list, the reply was frequently K9 (http://keir.net/k9.html) which I have used since then. Upon request K9 displays ALL received email and gives *YOU* the choice to flag selected messages as spam. It became routine for me to fetch my emails and then immediately look at what K9 had for me. I would then flag those spam messages as such so that K9 would learn what to look for next time. Do a search for K9 at: http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/ and see what all the discussions were at the time. My incidence of spam now is almost non-existent. I *MIGHT* receive one or two spam emails per month now. Is it because of K9? I don't know and I don't care but I'm stick'n with K9. TH Thanks Jack, one quick question: when K9 determines spam from the tray TH icon for instance: New: 3 Good: 1 Spam: 2, why do the spam continue TH through to TB? K9 simply adds the word SPAM (or whatever you tell it to add) to the subject line *before* the message gets to TB!. It doesn't do anything else (except learn from experience). Once the message reaches your (my) inbox I have a filter set up which routes any incoming message with the word Spam anywhere in the subject line into a folder called amusingly enough, Spam. I then confirm that they are indeed spam and manually delete them from the Spam folder. Also each time you fetch your email you have to open K9 and tell it which of the incoming messages are spam. From then on it will flag (with the word Spam in the subject) any messages which match or closely match the criteria it uses to identify spam. I seem to recall that K9 is much more sophisticated that I'm making it out to be. It's been so long since I started using K9 that I've forgotten just about everything I ever knew about it. That's why it's important to read the information contained at the http://keir.net/k9.html site and the discussions found in TB!'s archives. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Lost All My Emails
Hello Tim, On Tuesday, March 23, 2010 you wrote: TH Hello Jack, K9 simply adds the word SPAM (or whatever you tell it to add) to the subject line *before* the message gets to TB!. It doesn't do anything else (except learn from experience). Once the message reaches your (my) inbox I have a filter set up which routes any incoming message with the word Spam anywhere in the subject line into a folder called amusingly enough, Spam. I then confirm that they are indeed spam and manually delete them from the Spam folder. Also each time you fetch your email you have to open K9 and tell it which of the incoming messages are spam. From then on it will flag (with the word Spam in the subject) any messages which match or closely match the criteria it uses to identify spam. I seem to recall that K9 is much more sophisticated that I'm making it out to be. It's been so long since I started using K9 that I've forgotten just about everything I ever knew about it. That's why it's important to read the information contained at the http://keir.net/k9.html site and the discussions found in TB!'s archives. TH I understand what you are saying except for one thing: K9 defines Spam TH within the K9 program but does not tag emails with the word Spam upon TH TB retrieving them so I do not understand what you are referring to by TH the word spam in the subject heading. Can you further explain what TH you mean by K9 inserting or tagging the subject headings with the word TH spam so I can set TB to send these emails to a spam filter. Well, first of all, after you installed K9 it should then automatically appear as a capitol letter K lying on it's face somewhere in the system tray every time you start your computer. If the face-down capitol letter K isn't in your system tray, then K9 isn't running. Now, assuming that icon is present, double-click on it and open K9. Once K9 is open, click on the CONFIGURATION tab. You should see the upper-right section of that tab dedicated to: Mark emails as Spam by... where you get to tell K9 how you want spam messages marked. IIRC the default was simply SPAM. I changed mine to show -SPAM- for some reason so that now whenever K9 see an email it knows to be spam, it places -SPAM- in the subject line of the email before it reaches TB!. Once the email reaches TB!, my filter detects the -SPAM- in the subject line and re-routes the email to my Spam folder. HTH, -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Lost All My Emails
Hello Tim, On Wednesday, March 24, 2010 you wrote: TH Hello Jack, TH Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 5:33:57 AM, you wrote: Hello Tim, On Tuesday, March 23, 2010 you wrote: TH Hello Jack, K9 simply adds the word SPAM (or whatever you tell it to add) to the subject line *before* the message gets to TB!. It doesn't do anything else (except learn from experience). Once the message reaches your (my) inbox I have a filter set up which routes any incoming message with the word Spam anywhere in the subject line into a folder called amusingly enough, Spam. I then confirm that they are indeed spam and manually delete them from the Spam folder. Also each time you fetch your email you have to open K9 and tell it which of the incoming messages are spam. From then on it will flag (with the word Spam in the subject) any messages which match or closely match the criteria it uses to identify spam. I seem to recall that K9 is much more sophisticated that I'm making it out to be. It's been so long since I started using K9 that I've forgotten just about everything I ever knew about it. That's why it's important to read the information contained at the http://keir.net/k9.html site and the discussions found in TB!'s archives. TH I understand what you are saying except for one thing: K9 defines Spam TH within the K9 program but does not tag emails with the word Spam upon TH TB retrieving them so I do not understand what you are referring to by TH the word spam in the subject heading. Can you further explain what TH you mean by K9 inserting or tagging the subject headings with the word TH spam so I can set TB to send these emails to a spam filter. Well, first of all, after you installed K9 it should then automatically appear as a capitol letter K lying on it's face somewhere in the system tray every time you start your computer. If the face-down capitol letter K isn't in your system tray, then K9 isn't running. Now, assuming that icon is present, double-click on it and open K9. Once K9 is open, click on the CONFIGURATION tab. You should see the upper-right section of that tab dedicated to: Mark emails as Spam by... where you get to tell K9 how you want spam messages marked. IIRC the default was simply SPAM. I changed mine to show -SPAM- for some reason so that now whenever K9 see an email it knows to be spam, it places -SPAM- in the subject line of the email before it reaches TB!. Once the email reaches TB!, my filter detects the -SPAM- in the subject line and re-routes the email to my Spam folder. HTH, TH Yes indeed, I see how this works and I like it!!! Thanks for your TH help Jack. I'm glad I was finally able to help somebody on this list instead of the list helping me, as is usually the case. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Lost All My Emails
Hello Tim, On Thursday, April 01, 2010 you wrote: I'm glad I was finally able to help somebody on this list instead of the list helping me, as is usually the case. TH I'm experiencing the same timed out delay of 15 seconds before TB TH sends email with K9 installed. Do you experience the same delay? I was TH wondering if there is a setting within TB that is delaying the sending TH of email or if this is just K9? I don't recall *any* delays either sending or fetching. Occasionally they'll be a short delay (less than 15 sec) but that's usually attributable to my ISP (Charter) and is very random. It sounds like you're experiencing a consistent 15 second delay. I have no idea why this would occur unless there's some option somewhere in K9 that has to be set or un-set. Again, I have to plead ignorance as to the vagaries of K9 as I got it to work to my satisfaction years ago and have not looked at it since except to try and answer your questions. Wish I could help. Since our messages go out to the entire list perhaps there's someone out there who might know more than I. I might also suggest taking another look at the TB! archives for any mention of the problem you're describing. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Spam
Fellow list members, Am I the only one still using K9? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB layout question
Hello Susanne, On Saturday, June 12, 2010 you wrote: S Hi, S it's been ages since I set up TB on a new computer, and I can't for my life find where to change the layout (things like having the folder tree take up the whole left, instead of having the message view take up the whole width). S I feel like a fool, but can't find anything in the help file, either. S Isn't it VIEW then WINDOW SPLIT MODE? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Address book help
Fellow list members, My wife's laptop just died and I have tried (almost successfully) to get the new laptop up and running the way the old one was. I had been backing up the old laptop using Carbonite and also using the Windows 7 backup utility backing up to an external HDD thru a USB port. Neither Carbonite nor the MS backup was saving everything but by performing a restore from the MS backup first and then from the Carbonite backup (which took a couple of days to complete), I was able to retrieve what I assumed to be most of the TB! files. Since the .exe file was never backed up (apparently neither Carbonite nor the MS backup saves those types of files) I had to re-install TB! from a copy I retained the last time we upgraded (to 4.0.38). After the install I added her name as an account and voila!, everything appeared to be back the way it was on the old laptop. All of her folders and emails were there. It was only later that I learned that new contacts added to the address book are not retained the next time TB! is started. In addition, there's a mysterious blank contact at the top of the list which can be deleted (it takes several seconds to perform the delete) but will be there again the next time TB! is started. I have searched both the HDD backup files and the Carbonite backup files to no avail. I cannot find her original .abd file in either of those two locations so I am at a loss to even understand from where the file materialized in the first place and yet, there it is. This next point perhaps should be addressed to TBOT but it may have some bearing here. The new laptop's HDD has two folders; one named PROGRAM FILES and one named PROGRAM FILES(x86). Each folder contains a TB! folder but the TB.exe is in the PFx86 folder. All of the .abd files are in the PF folder. I copied her .abd file to the PF(x86) folder and selected it to be opened while I was in in the address book window. I wound up with two identical address books, both of which MALfunction exactly the same. I don't know if it makes any difference but the old laptop was running XP and was upgraded to Windows 7 while the new laptop came with Windows 7 already installed. Does an OEM Windows 7 have two PF folders? If there's someone out there who has been able to follow this convoluted description and might have some ideas, I'd appreciate all the help I can get. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book help
Hello fellow Bats, On Thursday, July 15, 2010 I wrote: JSL Fellow list members, JSL My wife's laptop just died and I have tried (almost successfully) to get the new laptop up and running the way the old one was. Yada, yada, yada. Fortunately I was able to solve this problem on my own and I only wasted $60 on HP tech support. It finally dawned on me that I might try exporting my wife's existing faulty address book to a CSV file, clean up any oddball address problems (the aforementioned blank contact) and then import it into a brand new address book. However, silly me, I wanted to save the new address book in the same folder the TB executable is in. Why? Oh I don't know. Maybe to keep all things BAT together? OH! No, no, no. Bill Gates won't let me do that with his new 64bit Windows 7 OS. I kept getting an error message that said I couldn't do that and I had to contact the system administrator. I AM the system administrator. Hence the $60 wasted on HP tech support only to have them tell me that that's the way the OS is designed. Great, thanks a pantload. Fortunately (I guess) Mr. Gates deigned to allow me to create a folder in the C:\PROGRAM FILES(x86) folder, where the TB executable is located, and I called it TB!-ADBs. Once that folder was created I then created a new address book and saved it in that folder. I was then able to import from the cleaned-up CSV file into the new address book and everything seems to be working just peachy fine. My apologies to the list for burdening everybody with a problem I was a bit too hasty in crying about. One lives and one learns I guess. Many thanks to all who spent any time on this. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book help
Hello Hajdú, On Friday, July 16, 2010 you wrote: HZ Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:34:44 PM, you wrote: to have them tell me that that's the way the OS is designed. HZ Actually, this a very good thing. Imagine how upset the virus/malware vendors were, when they found out that neither they can do this :) HZ Cheers HZ Z. Hmmm. Well, I never thought about that but you're probably right. Thanks for pointing that out. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book help
Hello Stephane, Thank you so very much for replying. On Tuesday, July 20, 2010 you wrote: SB Hi Jack, SB From your message, i could point some errors you've made... SB Your old laptop and your new one does not use the same system (32 bits vs 64 bits,...), and thus you cannot just restore any file/settings like that (and certainly not any executable)... I did not know this. We bought the new laptop knowing that it would come with Windows 7 installed but *NOT* realizing that it would be the 64 bit version. Even had we known about it being 64 bit I would have automatically assumed that it would function as the old 32 bit version did. SB \PROGRAM FILES folder is for program running natively on the system (on your new system, 64 bits programs), when \PROGRAM FILES(x86) is for old 32 bits programs... When I was attempting to restore the old backup onto the new machine, the Windows backup I had on my USB HDD didn't seem to work so I used the Carbonite off-site backup to do the restore. Then when I had trouble getting TB! to work I looked at the folders on the C: drive and was surprised to find a PROGRAM FILES folder *AND* a PROGRAM FILES(x86) folder. Since I had no knowledge of the structure of the 64 bit OS, I assumed I had somehow accidently created the PF(x86) by first trying to do the restore with the old Windows backup, abandoning that method and going with the Carbonite backup. SB Now you've placed some files of a 32bits program (The Bat!) in the 64 bits folder, just the right way to have mistakes... Perhaps, but at least TB! now seems to be working properly. I have not yet done a TB! backup but I'm thinking that might be a good idea and once completed, flag the TB! backup as a file which should be included in the on-going Carbonite backup. That way presumably I would have a TB! backup stored off-site. SB When you reinstall a new computer, you could of course restore your own data, but you should not restore settings as settings are partly dependent of the system. Settings from your old computer may not be adapted to your new computer (it's the case here with the PF directory name). As I have painfully found out. SB For TheBat!, you have a backup/restore function to do what you want, much more easily and without the need to pay HP for the support :) Silly me. I thought the Windows backup would be sufficient. Thank goodness for the Carbonite backup. In defence of the Windows backup however; I might have gotten it to work had I more time to fool with it but I was under tremendous pressure to get the new machine up and running as soon as possible. SB Easy : on the old computer, you do a backup, on the new computer, you install thebat, then you restore the backup. done :) Words to remember. In light of your obviously superior knowledge of Windows, I'd like to ask what you think of it's ability to create an image of whatever computer it's running on. I discovered this ability of the 64 bit OS when I was setting up the backup routine on the new machine. I'm pretty sure this ability didn't exist in the 32 bit version. Unfortunately, the USB HDD I'm using for backup is currently formatted as FAT32 and must be formatted to NTSF in order for the image to be created. As soon as I am comfortable that I have a good Carbonite backup I'm going to re-format the USB HDD to NTSF and try to create an image of this new machine. Again, thank you for taking the time to educate me in the intricacies of this new (to me) OS. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book help
Hello Raymund, On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 you wrote: RT Hi Jack, RT as I don't think this is of general interest to TBUDL, I send a personal message. didn't exist in the 32 bit version. Unfortunately, the USB HDD I'm using for backup is currently formatted as FAT32 and must be formatted to NTSF in order for the image to be created. As soon as I am comfortable that I have a good Carbonite backup I'm going to re-format the USB HDD to NTSF and try to create an image of this new machine. RT You should be able to do that using the command line and call the program convert x: /FS:NTFS. No need to reformat (if you have enough free space left). RT To make a backup first is a good idea though. I appreciate the info Raymund. As you can probably see Stephanie replied with similar information but as I stated to her, since the USB HDD isn't used for anything other than backups on the laptop, I wouldn't be losing anything. I just re-read your post and now I'm confused. What's the difference between convert x:/FS:NTFS and the format program? It seems like the command line convert x is going to convert the entire x: drive just as the format program would. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Address book help
Hello Stephane, On Wednesday, July 21, 2010 you wrote: SB Hi Jack, SB Two points... SB 1. Creating an image of your running system is a good solution, but never forget : it allow you to restore the whole working system, but on the same or similar computer... when you need to move to a new system (another hardware / another OS), you should reinstall from scratch your apps and reconfigure from scratch, only restoring datas there's of course a lot of solutions allowing you to (partly) restore settings, but you would have a much better system if you do not try to adapt your old settings on the new system, but directly adapt your datas for the new settings of the new system. Understood. If I had had an image of the old laptop I could have simply replaced the blown HDD and restored the image. However, since neither I nor my wife ever trusted the old laptop (erratic operation), we felt safer buying a brand new laptop. My problems (read confusion) came about because as I mentioned, the old laptop had been upgraded from native Win XP to Win 7. My lack of knowledge of native Win 7 caused me considerable consternation in trying to figure out how I had managed to cause two PROGRAM FILES folders to appear on the C: drive. If a similar HDD crash were to occur on this new laptop and I had an image of the HDD before the crash, I would simply replace the HDD and restore from the image. That would be my reasoning for creating an image of this new laptop. I would create images, perhaps weekly, and then continue doing regular daily routine (not image) backups. SB 2. You may migrate a fat partition to NTFS without the need to reformat and thus without loosing the datas on it... have a look at convert.exe commandline utility what you need to know before : if you convert your USB HDD to NTFS it could not be used anymore on something else than Windows... it means you cannot use it anymore to connect to a PS3, DVD Player, TV, Photo Frame, audio car system,... and it could be much more difficult to revert to FAT than converting to NTFS, as windows itself does not allow natively to FAT32 format a partition bigger than 32GB... The Western Digital Passport USB drive we use for backups on the laptop isn't used for anything else so I wouldn't be losing any functionality by converting to NTFS. But that information is good to know. Thanks again for your help. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic backups
Fellow list members, Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. I have the backup filename as TBbackup.tbk and it will save the backup properly the first time I run the backup. However, subsequent backups either manually started or started by TB! result in an error message because the filename already exists. Well, yes, that's true because the first backup was saved to that filename. Can I get TB! to automatically overwrite the old backup *OR* can a new backup filename be automatically created every time the autobackup runs? Some suggestions I found in the archives claimed the current date and time could be used to generate a filename but I never could get any of those to work. Usually a filename using a macro string would consist of the characters in the string but not the actual date and/or time. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Mark, On Thursday, July 22, 2010 you wrote: MP Hello Jack, MP Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:01:14 PM, you wrote: JSL Ok, I've looked through the archives for about an hour now and can't find an answer that works. The problem has JSL to do with the filename used when TB! performs an automatic backup. --- snip - MP Are you sure you ticked the second choice Create an Update to an existing archive and not the first one To Backup MP File (standard)? Actually Mark, since I'm excessively anal retentive (my wife calls me Mr. Monk), I was trying to get TB! to produce a FULL backup every time it ran. While I'm sure I could eliminate this user-created problem by doing what you suggest, it would mean that periodically I would have to delete all the backups created to date and then manually create another FULL backup to seed the subsequent incremental backups because, left to it's own devices, TB! would continue to produce incremental backups ad infinitum. I think. Or am I completely missing the point here? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello mark-toss, On Friday, July 23, 2010 you wrote: mt Emerging from lurkdom to say I've had exactly the same problem. I can get The Bat to do incremental backups automatically, but not full backup. In my case, I just resigned myself to doing a full backup manually every week or so. Mark, are you saying that you can *NEVER* do a full backup? Even manually? -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello mark, On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: m I can do a normal full backup whenever I like, using The Bat tools/backup/standard method manually. Scheduled (automatic) full backups fail to work after the first one, however, apparently because the filename is already taken. m Sorry if my original post wasn't clear. No problem. What you describe is exactly why I started this thread in the first place. Apparently TB! will refuse to overwrite the previous backup because the filename has already been used. I don't need/want my external backup drive filling up with full backups with different filenames. I suppose one might be able to use TASK SCHEDULER to execute a batch file which would delete the previous backup prior to TB! doing a scheduled full backup. Actually, you could make the argument that it's risky *NOT* to have previous backups in case something in TB! went hinky and you've just erased the previous GOOD backup and replaced it with a corrupt backup. I dunno. Maybe we're not looking at this with eyes wide open. -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: --- snip --- DC A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give DC it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an DC option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest DC one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. Exactly! -- Jack LaRosa mailto:jlar...@charter.net Sticking with with The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Operating? with Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Sig font
Greetings, My wife has become enamoured of the less-than-plain sigs she sees from her correspondents, none of whom I can guarantee are using TB. I have looked everywhere I could think of and can't seem to find where a new message can be formatted with a fancy sig. Nothing too fancy but with a combination of plain font and/or script font. She'd also like to be able to control bold, italics, and color. She wants to have a template set up so that she doesn't have to make all these formatting changes each time she composes a new email. The closest thing I could find was OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-VIEWER/EDITOR-PROFILE LAYOUT but any changes made there affect the entire signature, not just the name or phone number or address or whatever else she might want to include. Ideally one could create an HTML message with all the different font modifications in the sig and then save it as a template for future use. If these features are available in a later version of TB! I'm not averse to buying it. -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Pelham, Alabama Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig font
Hello Rick, On Saturday, July 24, 2010 you wrote: Ideally one could create an HTML message with all the different font modifications in the sig and then save it as a template for future use. R OOPS let me add that the actual sig will probably have to be a graphic R as oddball fonts will not be viewed correctly on other computers Love your sig Rick. I threw my wallet in the washer. So anyway, are you saying that it's possible to add a graphic to a TB! template? If so, how? -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: DE Hi Jack, DE On Sat, 24 Jul 2010, at 11:20:24 [which was on Saturday at 17:20 where I DE live] you wrote: DC A way to have TB! manage several backups would be good. Give DC it a base filename and then let it name them name-date and an DC option for how many to maintain so that it deletes the oldest DC one(s) once it makes a new backup and reaches that point. Exactly! DE I did use to have regEx for the automated backup that contained the day of the DE week. This way I would only have 7 backups, and for some reason it would just DE write over on old backup. (Not sure of my settings) DE I would like to find the regEx again as I have recently moved TB! to a new DE computer. Well, if you ever remember how you did it, please post it so we can all stop using the assumed shortcomings of TB! as an excuse not to do backups. :) -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello Roelof, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: RO Hallo David, RO On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:25:00 -0400GMT (24-7-2010, 17:25 , where I RO live), you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. Roelof, can you give us an example of just how you are able to accomplish that? I tried to do that using several of the examples I found in the archives but all I was ever able to do was get a filename which was the exact string of characters used in the macro which should have equated out to a date or date/time filename. I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which seems to indicate that the macro: autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk would produce a backup filename consisting of the date and time. Alas, all it did (I just tried it) was produce a backup with the filename autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk. It looks like the %DATE and %TIME aren't being recognized by TB!, at least not for an automatically generated filename. I even tried to simplify it by using autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk and I ended up with a backup file called: autobackup-%DATE-%TIME.tbk. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Automatic backups
Hello David, On Sunday, July 25, 2010 you wrote: DE Hi Jack, DE On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, at 07:29:47 [which was on Sunday at 13:29 where I live] DE you wrote: DC Give it a base filename and then let it name them name-date RO Well, that exactly what TB is doing for me. DE ... I found an old email on this subject, written by me coincidentally, which seems to indicate that the macro: autobackup-%DATE(-mm-dd)-%TIME(hh-mm-ss).tbk DE That looks like the one I was using before I moved TB! to another machine. For some reason that doesn't work anymore, if it ever did. I don't remember. However, please see my latest post on the subject where I have managed to get TB to at least overwrite the existing backup without hanging because of identical filenames. You should be able to see exactly what filename is in the your scheduler. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Automatic backups
Greetings all,
In continuing to research this problem (for me anyway) I discovered an email
(http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg89326.html) which
contains a regex which supposedly will produce a backup which has a filename
containing both the date and time.
With this info I proceeded in this fashion: Under TOOLSSCHEDULER I get the
following display:
Please note, the ACTIONS line is highlighted.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4826693567_2b7b6893ca_b.jpg
If I right-click on the highlighted ACTION line I get this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4096/4826749585_39baee5213_b.jpg
Clicking on EDIT gives me this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4826765417_14afdb4daf_b.jpg
Notice the To backup file (standard) button is selected and further notice
the partially visible filename contained in the box.
Someone commented on the post mentioned in the above first paragraph that when
he tried this regex, TB! produced a backup titled with a
3-or-4-digit-number.tbk. The number preceding the .tbk was the time the file
was created i.e. if the backup ran at 1105am the file name would be 1105.tbk
He mentioned that since a scheduler by definition is always going to run at the
same time, the backup would fail apparently because of it attempting to use the
same filename.
I personally don't know how to use regex expressions but I was able to take the
originally posted regex and remove the part which generated the un-needed time
string. The resulting regex looks like this:
D:\Bat
backup\%SETPATTREGEXP=(\d+).(\d+)\.(\d{4})%REGEXPBLINDMATCH=%DATESHORT%Subpatt=3%Subpatt=2%Subpatt=1.tbk.
When I told the scheduler to execute the action NOW, this is the resulting file
as it appears on my D: drive:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4827422984_610599fba8_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4094/4827423784_9a94e312fa_b.jpg
Notice there is no actual filename but only an icon followed by .tbk. However,
if you hover the cursor over the icon you get this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4079/4827438052_79c30877ba_b.jpg
As you can see the type, date and size of the file is displayed.
I have no idea why an icon is created instead of a text string showing the date
but I would love to know. Something in the regex perhaps?
Anyway, as a test I created a backup (today, the 25th) which resulted in an
icon filename as mentioned, and then changed the date on my computer and
generated another backup by the same above method. TB!, apparently recognizing
that the original icon filename backup was created yesterday (the 25th),
overwrote it and created a new icon filename with tomorrow's date(the 26th)
appearing in the hover.
This apparently solves my original problem and I can run with it but it sure
would be neat if TB! created a new, different backup instead of overwriting the
existing one.
--
TIA,
Jack LaRosa
Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now.
Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3
Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig font
Hello Rick, On Monday, July 26, 2010 you wrote: - snip - So anyway, are you saying that it's possible to add a graphic to a TB! template? If so, how? R In any template window, go to FORMAT and change it to HTML. Then the R icons will appear including one to add a graphic. Make a folder for R bat graphics and copy them there since they are not stored in the R template and will otherwise disappear if you move them. Well, no matter which template (folder, address book) I go into, there is no way to specify HTML. Then I looked at your sig and I see that you're running v4.2.36.4. It looks like my earlier version doesn't support that feature. I may have to bite the bullet. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Bounced by tbudl-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com
Greetings, Yesterday I spent an inordinate amount of time composing a note to this list regarding automatic backups. It was time consuming because in an effort to make myself understood I thought pictures would help. I would take each step in the process I was describing and capture the screen either with the PRT SCR button alone or ALT-PRT SCR to capture the window in focus. Then I had to open MSPaint and paste the clipboard contents (my screen capture) and then save the resulting file to my desktop. From there I would upload the image to Flikr which would provide me with a URL to view the image. I sent the email off to the list to await some response. Later in the day I saw in Kim Komando's Today's News a mention by her of a free screen capture utility (Clip2Net) which could be invoked from the system tray and would automatically upload to their server the area of the screen I specified, and provide me with a URL to see the screen capture. I used the program to capture a portion of one of TB!s screens and emailed the list with my question and the URL provided by Clip2Net. It was immediately bounced back with the message: The message's content type was not explicitly allowed. That's it. No other explanation. So, I'm confused as to why the email with all the Flikr URLs went through and this one with a URL provided by Clip2Net didn't. Is Clip2Net a non-trustworthy program? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mystery tab
Greetings, Ok, after some bumpy starts, I think this one will go through (I hope). If it does, thank you Roelof. I'd like some help with this if possible. Please see the screenshot: http://clip2net.com/page/m0/6974854 -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Sig font
Hello MFPA, On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 you wrote: M Hi M On Monday 26 July 2010 at 11:49:43 PM, in M mid:1978183225.20100726184...@gmail.com, Rick wrote: On Monday 26 July 2010 at 11:06:03 PM, in mid:1038658005.20100726170...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Well, no matter which template (folder, address book) I go into, there is no way to specify HTML. Then I looked at your sig and I see that you're running v4.2.36.4. It looks like my earlier version doesn't support that feature. I may have to bite the bullet. Oops - I should have looked before I replied M Googling tells me:- M Version 4.1 (December 2008) adds HTML templates, support for M SOCKS proxy, and a new mail database format that allows for M an unlimited volume of mail. M M Version 4.2 (June 2009) adds postponed sending. Thank you MFPA. I guess it's time. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mystery tab
Hello Rick, On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 you wrote: I'd like some help with this if possible. Please see the screenshot: http://clip2net.com/page/m0/6974854 R That list is all the addresses to whom you have sent or from whom you R have received mail. Click on one and you will see a history of all the R mail for that person. RIGHT click on the list and there are options R OPTIONS / PREFERENCES / ADDRESS HISTORY gives more global options Curiously, I just found out that if you click on that tab (ADDRESSES) after a fresh restart of TB!, you get an Address History Setup dialog box. If you click on CANCEL in that box, the box will never appear again when you click on the ADDRESSES tab until you restart TB!. It's nice to now know what it is but since I long ago created folders and filters for people with whom I routinely correspond, I don't see that it holds any value for me. It still amazes me whenever I learn of something else this amazing program does! Thank you Rick. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mystery tab
Hello MFPA, On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 you wrote: M Hi M On Wednesday 28 July 2010 at 2:04:43 PM, in M mid:12405976.20100728080...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Curiously, I just found out that if you click on that tab (ADDRESSES) after a fresh restart of TB!, you get an Address History Setup dialog box. If you click on CANCEL in that box, the box will never appear again when you click on the ADDRESSES tab until you restart TB!. M I never get that box, except by going to M Options | Preferences | Address History. It might be that once the parameters are set for that box, either through the box itself or from OPTIONS / PREFERENCES / ADDRESS HISTORY, there might never be a need for the box to ever appear again when that tab is clicked on. It's nice to now know what it is but since I long ago created folders and filters for people with whom I routinely correspond, I don't see that it holds any value for me. M I used to find that address autocomplete brought up lots of M suggestions from that list when I was typing in the To field of a M messages. Since these were mainly old addresses, or addresses of M people I didn't know who were on a CC list in a message, this M irritated me. Now I have the Do-Not-Track List set to not track any M address containing the @ symbol, and all is good. (-; I correspond with so few people that the drop-down address list accessible by clicking on the chevron at the far right of the TO field, is sufficient for me to find a TO address quickly. I have another question which you might be able to help me with. Yesterday I bought the latest and greatest version of TB! from https://www.cifnet.com/ritlabs/ using a credit card. I assumed that I would be sent an email containing the Product Key and a URL from which I could download TB!. I have yet to hear back from them and was wondering how to proceed. If I just download TB! from the RIT Labs site, how do I then get the Product Key? Any ideas? TIA, -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mystery tab
Hello MFPA, On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 you wrote: M Hi M On Wednesday 28 July 2010 at 4:05:06 PM, in M mid:1749509552.20100728100...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I have another question which you might be able to help me with. Yesterday I bought the latest and greatest version of TB! from https://www.cifnet.com/ritlabs/ using a credit card. I assumed that I would be sent an email containing the Product Key and a URL from which I could download TB!. M When I bought new versions in the past, the product key came within a M few hours in an email from off...@ritlabs.com. You just download TB! M from Ritlabs's website and can use it for a 30-day trial period, at M the end of which it stops working unless you enter the product key. I have yet to hear back from them M Not even an email confirming the transaction? That seems odd. and was wondering how to proceed. If I just download TB! from the RIT Labs site, how do I then get the Product Key? M I would contact sa...@cifnet.com and/or off...@ritlabs.com with M relevant information about the transaction, possibly after checking if M my card had been debited (but the card may be debited anything from M instantly to over two weeks later). The 30-day trial should be ample M time to chase this up, one would hope! Thanks for the advice. I'll go ahead and download so I can familiarize myself with it. I'll worry about the billing and Product Key later. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mystery tab
Hello MFPA, On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 you wrote: M Hi M On Wednesday 28 July 2010 at 4:05:06 PM, in M mid:1749509552.20100728100...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: I have another question which you might be able to help me with. Yesterday I bought the latest and greatest version of TB! from https://www.cifnet.com/ritlabs/ using a credit card. I assumed that I would be sent an email containing the Product Key and a URL from which I could download TB!. M When I bought new versions in the past, the product key came within a M few hours in an email from off...@ritlabs.com. You just download TB! M from Ritlabs's website and can use it for a 30-day trial period, at M the end of which it stops working unless you enter the product key. I have yet to hear back from them M Not even an email confirming the transaction? That seems odd. It's 2310hrs here and I was just preparing for bed but I always make one last check of incoming messages. A message appeared from the TB! Team congratulating me on my purchase of TB! Home Edition and advising me that my credit card had been charged. Of course the product key was supplied also. Better late than never. -- Jack LaRosa Currently using The Bat! ver: 4.0.38 for now. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Forwarding HTML attachments
Hello Bats! I receive daily comic strips in the form of HTML. Although TB! now allows me to view these from within TB!, they each come with an HTML attachment called MESSAGE.HTML. These attachments are represented as FireFox icons and if you click on one, FireFox gets launched and goes straight to the URL which contains the comic. As a test I forwarded one of these to my GMAIL account and saw that, prior to sending, the FireFox attachment was replaced by an attachment called 1.EML. The email I received in GMAIL showed that there *was* an attachment (called 1.EML) but when I clicked on it, a screen full of HTML code appeared. Am I somehow not viewing the message properly from GMAIL or, since the FireFox icon attachment is nowhere to be found when the message is forwarded, cannot properly view the attachment? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.36.4. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding HTML attachments
Hello MFPA, On Friday, July 30, 2010 you wrote: M Hi M On Friday 30 July 2010 at 3:16:20 PM, in M mid:491928220.20100730091...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote: Am I somehow not viewing the message properly from GMAIL or, since the FireFox icon attachment is nowhere to be found when the message is forwarded, cannot properly view the attachment? M I can't answer your specific question about gmail but can report that M forwarding HTML emails in the normal way is unreliable for me. If I M forward the message as an attachment, it generally gets there intact. M For clarity, I mean that I attach the *entire* message to my outgoing M email and not just the HTML attachment. M Try forwarding to an account you access through TB! and see if it can M be viewed properly. Better still, use POP or IMAP to look at your M gmail account; that might possibly show it was received properly but M the web interface has a problem. Prior to my installing v4.2.36.4 yesterday, FORWARDing an HTML email always included the FireFox HTML attachment automatically in the forward. That feature was lost or misplaced in the latest version. Upon receipt of your reply I started experimenting based on what you wrote. It never would have occurred to me to include the original email from the comic strips as an attachment to my recipient. Before I was successful in figuring out *how* to attach an entire email to an outgoing email, I discovered that by right-clicking on the FireFox attachment contained in the original email, I was presented with an option to RESEND TO... Clicking on that drop-down menu option starts a blank email with the FireFox attachment...attached. Since I didn't care about the body of the original comics email, resending the HTML attachment is really all I need. But just out of curiosity, how *DO* you attach an entire email to another outgoing email? -- Jack LaRosa Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.36.4. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Forwarding HTML attachments
Hello MFPA, On Friday, July 30, 2010 you wrote: -- SNIP - But just out of curiosity, how *DO* you attach an entire email to another outgoing email? M Method One MOpen a new email MDrag the message you are forwarding from the message list to Mthe new message window you just opened and drop it. M MThis works for most email clients I've used. This method doesn't seem to work for me. Although I can drag the original message I'm trying to forward into the new blank message, the resulting attachment becomes 1.eml and when received in my Gmail account, contains nothing but HTML code. M Method Two MAlternative Forward from the Specials menu M(or Shift+Alt+F5) M MThe body to which the forwarded message is attached will have Mwhatever content is created by the forwarding template being Mused. Here's the kind of thing that gives me an attack of the vapors (You might need to look that up. Your photo looks youthful.) If in AccountProperties-Templates-Forward, the Forward-messages-as-attachments (MIME standard) is ticked, then SHIFT-ALT-F5 generates a forward with the with the HTML attachment intact. However, clicking on the FORWARD arrow at top generates a forward with the HTML attachment replaced with the 1.eml attachment. If on the other hand in AccountProperties-Templates-Forward, the Forward-messages-as-attachments (MIME standard) is UN-ticked, then SHIFT-ALT-F5 now produces a forward with 1.eml replacing the original HTML attachment. However, clicking on the FORWARD arrow at top generates a forward *WITH* the HTML attachment *JUST AS IT USED TO BE* before I upgraded to 4.2.36.4. I was sure I tried every possible combination of generating forwards before I asked for help but I see now this old addled brain must be on a downward, slippery slope towards senility. M Method Three MGo to Account Properties | Templates | Forward M MPlace a tick in the box labelled MForward messages as attachments (MIME standard) M MThis has the effect of switching around the Forward and MAlternative Forward functions so that selecting Forward M(or CTRL+o) creates a new message with the message attached Mthat you wish to forward. M See above. Thanks M. -- Jack LaRosa Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.36.4. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Error message
Greetings, Lately I have been getting this message (image: http://clip2net.com/s/xH1n) every time I attach a file to an email. I'm not sure when it started but it's beginning to get annoying. Anyone have any idea how I might have brought this plague upon myself and what I might do to cure it? -- TIA, Jack LaRosa Using The Bat! ver: 4.2.36.4. Running Windows XP Pro ver 5 build 2600 Service Pack 3 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
