Re: Error message

2010-09-24 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Friday, September 24, 2010 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Friday 24 September 2010 at 5:43:56 PM, in
M mid:387353621.20100924114...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Anyone have any idea how I might have brought this
 plague upon myself and what I might do to cure it?  

M Have you maybe updated your anti-virus, and the new version has 
M different defaults?

Good question.  I'm using the anti-virus that's built in to Comodo and
would have no idea where or how Comodo and TB! connect.  But I'll look
around.

Thanks.

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Re: Error message - Comodo

2010-09-24 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Gary,

On Friday, September 24, 2010 you wrote:

GO On a different topic - I used Comodo for quite a while.  Is a
GO memory pig and had some odd behaviors, though my recall is fuzzy.
GO Moved to Vipre months ago.  Am quite satisfied with its features
GO and performance.  Vipre integrates well with the Bat!  for
GO anti-virus.

GO Regards,
GO Gary Odom
GO g...@waterfire.us
GO Friday, September 24, 2010 2:52:51 PM
GO The Bat! version 4.2.36.4
GO OS = Windows XP 5.1

GO Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:52:51 PM, Jack wrote:

 Hello MFPA,

 On Friday, September 24, 2010 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Friday 24 September 2010 at 5:43:56 PM, in
M mid:387353621.20100924114...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Anyone have any idea how I might have brought this
 plague upon myself and what I might do to cure it?  

M Have you maybe updated your anti-virus, and the new version has 
M different defaults?

 Good question.  I'm using the anti-virus that's built in to Comodo and
 would have no idea where or how Comodo and TB! connect.  But I'll look
 around.

 Thanks.
GO 
GO Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Interesting.  Is Vipre also a firewall?  I've never heard of it.  I
used to run ZoneAlarm for a firewall and free AVG for an anti-virus
but since I built this computer I was never able to get ZoneAlarm to
work properly.  In looking around for a replacement for ZoneAlarm I
stumbled across Comodo.  Since it has an anti-virus built-in, I never
installed free AVG.  I don't really like Comodo, it's too intrusive
although that probably could be tempered if I took the time to learn
how to configure it properly.

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Re: insert a symbol?

2010-11-16 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Gary,

On Tuesday, November 16, 2010 you wrote:

GO Is  it possible to insert a symbol into an email message using the 
GO Bat email editor? If so, how? Thanks.

Go to: http://www.alt-codes.net/ for a list of ALT codes.
I tried it during creation of an HTML message and it worked.
 Just press and hold the ALT key while you type in the
 number using your number pad then release the ALT key.

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Search not working

2010-12-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hail Fellow Bats!,

I've just discovered a problem with my SEARCH function.
Namely, it refuses to find anything in one particular
folder.

I have a folder called Family with several daughter
folders for each family member.  I can successfully search
any family member folder except one.  No matter what I put
in TOOLS-SEARCH-(ANY PART)-CONTAINS-string, it never finds
anything and always returns the message: Search Finished.
Found 0 Messages at the bottom of the screen.  The SEARCH
function works fine in any other folder in the account.

I'm stumped.

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Re: Search not working

2010-12-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Tuesday, December 28, 2010 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Tuesday 28 December 2010 at 6:54:49 PM, in
M mid:1598363701.20101228125...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Hail Fellow Bats!,

 I've just discovered a problem with my SEARCH function.
 Namely, it refuses to find anything in one particular
 folder.


M Did you try copying all the messages from the problem folder to a new
M folder and seeing if it works there?

Nope, never thought of it.  Can I create a new folder with
the same name as the old one?  Or, if I create a new folder
with a different name can I then rename it after all the
messages have been moved over and the old, empty folder has
been deleted?

As You can probably see, the time stamp indicates it's
pretty late here so this will have to wait till morning but
I appreciate the reply.

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Re: Search not working

2011-01-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Saturday, January 01, 2011 you wrote:

M Hi

M On Wednesday 29 December 2010 at 5:26:16 AM, in
M mid:138805893.20101228232...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 Nope, never thought of it.  

M No guarantees that it works for you, but worth a try.

 Can I create a new folder
 with the same name as the old one?  

M Name would have to be different...

 Or, if I create a
 new folder with a different name can I then rename it
 after all the messages have been moved over and the
 old, empty folder has been deleted?

M Yes, of course. But it may be prudent to close down and restart TB!
M after deleting the old folder before you rename the new folder.

Sorry it took so long to reply M.  I guess the holidays (and
my senility) caused me to forget all about this problem.

I took your suggestions and all is well now.  I can search
in that folder now and actually find what I was looking for.

Many thanks and a Happy New Year to you.

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Re: Search conditions in Message Finder

2011-01-31 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Monday, January 31, 2011 you wrote:

TF Hello Raymund,

TF On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:56:21 +0100 GMT (30/Jan/11, 18:56 PM +0700 GMT),
TF Raymund Tump wrote:

 In the Message Finder, there is a New Condition button to increase
 the number of search conditions. Is there a way to reduce the number
 other than editing the registry?

RT Well, there is a button on the right hand side of the edit field of
RT the condition. It is labeled '-'.

TF Yes, but: The next time I open Search, the deleted items is shown
TF again.

TF Any confirmations?

Not here.  I deleted three of the four original search
conditions some time ago using the '-' and they have never
returned.

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Re: Search conditions in Message Finder

2011-02-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:24:32 -0600 GMT (31/Jan/11, 22:24 PM +0700 GMT),
TF Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

RT Well, there is a button on the right hand side of the edit field of
RT the condition. It is labeled '-'.

TF Yes, but: The next time I open Search, the deleted items is shown
TF again.

TF Any confirmations?

JSL Not here.  I deleted three of the four original search
JSL conditions some time ago using the '-' and they have never
JSL returned.

TF Maybe it's a version thing, I am using 4.2.36.4. We don't have a
TF changelog clarifying this, do we?

Honestly, I wouldn't know.  Sorry.

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Re: Known bug?

2011-02-15 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Tuesday, February 15, 2011 you wrote:

TF Hello Akebono,

TF On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:50:03 +0100 GMT (11/Feb/11, 16:50 PM +0700 GMT),
TF Akebono Translation Service wrote:

ATS It seems The Bat converts the combination of ym to µ in IE's web
ATS address bar if this combination is found within a link in an HTML
ATS e-mail (if the format is plain text, this does not happen).

ATS For example:
ATS www.url.com/name=heymaster=1
ATS becomes
ATS www.url.com/name=heµaster=1
ATS in IE

TF Not confirmed. I clicked on the first link, and the URL (at least in
TF the address bar in IE) shows the same. No conversion to the second
TF URL.

My result is exactly the same as Thomas's.  Clicking on the
top link launches Firefox and copies the link into Firefox's
address bar exactly as shown.  No conversion to the lower
link and curiously, both links take me to the same page
(URL.COM) even though they both appear in Firefox's address
bar exactly as shown here.

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Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Batties,

Ok, let's try this again.

I get this warning every time I attach something to an
email.

(Fortunately I discovered before sending this that the link
won't work without the period at the end.  You can't just
click on the link; you'll have to copy and paste making sure
the period is included in the copy.)

http://imgsrc.com/?v=untitlbnb.

Anyway, the popup continues to re-appear about every 20-30
seconds regardless of how it's disposed of; either clicking
OK or clicking the red X.  I assume it's almost certainly
coming from my Comodo anti-virus but I'm not positive about
that.  I suppose it could be coming from TB!.  Anyway, I
thought I'd show it to the list to see if anyone (possibly
familiar with Comodo) had any ideas on how to make it stop.
It's really annoying.

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Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 07:42:13 -0500GMT (22-3-2011, 13:42 , where I
RO live), you wrote:

JSL I get this warning every time I attach something to an
JSL email.

RO Have you got an plug-in for virus scanner installed with TB?

Not that I'm aware of.  How would I find out?

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Re: Anti-virus? message

2011-03-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

On Tuesday, March 22, 2011 you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 08:56:16 -0500GMT (22-3-2011, 14:56 , where I
RO live), you wrote:

RO Have you got an plug-in for virus scanner installed with TB?

JSL Not that I'm aware of.  How would I find out?

RO  options - preferences - virus/trojan alert - anti virus

Ok.  Well as you can see (http://imgsrc.com/?v=untitlquq.)
there does appear to be some sort of anti-virus but I have
no idea of how it got there.  I un-ticked the Check
outgoing mail for viruses and then started another email
including an attachment.  The pop-up never appeared.  So, I
guess the problem is solved.

Thank you Roelof for your help.

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Forward formatting

2011-04-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Bats!,

We get email notification of most of our utility bills which
are mailed to my wife's email address.  I have a filter on
her laptop machine which automatically forwards all these
notifications to my desktop computer.  This works just fine
for all notifications except one which comes to her nicely
formatted in the form of a table containing the information.
Unfortunately, the forward which I receive on my desktop is
no longer formatted as she received it.  I receive the
forward from her as simply text, no formatting (no table).
As a consequence it's difficult to match the information to
the column headers because the information is no longer in
table form.

Any ideas as to why this would be and what, if anything can
be done about it?

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Re: Forward formatting

2011-04-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Stuart,

On Friday, April 22, 2011 you wrote:

S Hello Jack,
S Friday, April 22, 2011, 8:27:15 AM, you wrote:

 Any ideas as to why this would be and what, if anything can
 be done about it?

S Have you tried redirecting instead. It should not alter the original.

Occam's razor (perhaps erroneously) comes to mind.  I tried
your suggestion Stuart because it seemed to me to be the
easiest thing to try and it worked!

Many thanks for your and Roelof's suggestions.  I love this
list.

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Display properties

2011-04-24 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Bats,

Having updated to v5.0.8 I noticed the following display
anomalies.  You'll notice in the clipboard display here:
http://clip2net.com/s/U5Ej that the SERVER, MESSAGE,
TRANSFER and TIME lines text is missing what I surmise to be
about one or two pixels at the bottom of each line.  While
annoying, the text is still readable and I was grudgingly
content to just let it go.  However, I wanted to check the
properties on my Trash folder and was dismayed to find this:
http://clip2net.com/s/U5CQ, a slightly more serious problem.

Has anyone else seen these display problems in their 5.0.8
programs?  Is there some adjustment somewhere I can tweak to
make the problem go away?

Or, should I simply reload the most recent previous version
I have (4.2.44) and hopefully clear the problem?

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Re: Display properties

2011-04-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Monday, April 25, 2011 you wrote:

 Or, should I simply reload the most recent previous version
 I have (4.2.44) and hopefully clear the problem?

R I  am  seeing  NEITHER of these issues. I am using the default WIndows
R theme

Rick, how do you (I actually) arrive at the default Windows
theme?  I'm not sure I know what theme I'm using.

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Re: Display properties

2011-04-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Monday, April 25, 2011 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Monday 25 April 2011 at 4:23:09 PM, in
M mid:1341997166.20110425102...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Rick, how do you (I actually) arrive at the default
 Windows theme?  I'm not sure I know what theme I'm
 using.  

M Try right-clicking a blank space on your desktop and select
M properties from the context menu. Or find display in the Control 
M Panel.

Ah.  Thanks M.

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Re: Display properties

2011-04-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Jernej,

On Monday, April 25, 2011 you wrote:

JS On Monday, April 25, 2011, 22:05:23, MFPA wrote:

 Try right-clicking a blank space on your desktop and select
 properties from the context menu. Or find display in the Control 
 Panel.

JS Theme in Jack's pictures is the default XP theme though (with Large
JS fonts enabled, but that shouldn't cause the problem he's seeing).

Aha!  Sort of confirms what Marek said.  However, if I do
what MFPA suggested and bring up PROPERTIES by
right-clicking on the desktop, then go to the APPEARANCE
tab, it shows that I'm using NORMAL, not LARGE fonts.

In any case, I don't think you should be able to mess up a
program's formatting by changing the OS's display
parameters, Particularly since the previous version of TB!
didn't have this problem.

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Re: Display properties

2011-04-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Jernej,

On Tuesday, April 26, 2011 you wrote:

JS On Tuesday, April 26, 2011, 0:53:35, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 Aha!  Sort of confirms what Marek said.  However, if I do
 what MFPA suggested and bring up PROPERTIES by
 right-clicking on the desktop, then go to the APPEARANCE
 tab, it shows that I'm using NORMAL, not LARGE fonts.

JS This is somewhat confusing, but Windows lets you set the font size in
JS 2 places: Appearance (which affects very few things) and in Settings
(last tab) - Advanced (which affects nearly everything, sometimes in
JS bad ways).

You were absolutely correct Jernej.  In SETTINGS I found the
I had selected large font when I initially set up this
computer.  I switched it back to small fonts (which is too
small for these aged eyes) and sure enough, the display
problems I had submitted had disappeared.  I didn't bother
checking the connection center but the folder properties now
displayed properly.  However, since the smaller font is no
longer comfortable for me I had to go back to the large
fonts.

So, did I understand Marek correctly in that he thought this
was a bug and he was going to submit it to Bugtrackers?

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Group forward

2011-05-18 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings All,

I just had a curious thing happen which may be indicative of
a bug, or un-documented feature as some coders are wont to
say.  I CTRL-clicked several email messages in my inbox and
then picked one and right-clicked to show the drop-down
menu.  From there I clicked on FORWARD and was presented
with the familiar FORWARD OF MULTIPLE MESSAGES dialog box.
I then clicked on the ADDRESS ALL MESSAGES TO THE
ADDRESS(ES) BELOW and entered two addresses.  I then clicked
on OK.

My recollection of the last time I did this (before v5.0.99)
was that TB! would immediately send the messages.  I
remember being able to watch the messages appear in the
outbox and then disappear as they were mailed.  This time
however, nothing happened except that the FORWARD OF
MULTIPLE MESSAGES dialog box disappeared as you would
expect.  No messages appeared in the outbox and no messages
appeared in the SENT MAIL folder indicating that they
weren't sent.  Also the connection center never appeared.  I
had one message already in the outbox and it remained so
until I clicked on SEND QUEUED MAIL at which point THAT
message WAS sent.  I'm assuming the other messages were in
fact not sent although I haven't contacted the recipients to
confirm.

Thoughts? Observations? Critiques?

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Re: TB 5.0 could be a Guinness world record holder

2011-06-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

Well, I'm one of those fools that upgrades software JUST
BECAUSE AN UPGRADE IS MADE AVAILABLE.  Usually this doesn't
cause a problem but as I reported earlier, my screen display
when showing folder properties in v5 is corrupted.  I was
willing to live with it because I so seldom do anything with
folder properties but after seeing all the problems others
are having w/v5, I began to wonder what other problems exist
for me that I simply hadn't run across yet.  So, I decided
to revert to the most recent version I had kept, v4.2.44.  I
double-clicked the .msi file and went through the motions
for installing TB! and was subsequently informed that it
had installed.  Imagine my surprise when I discovered that
nothing had changed!  The splash screen still shows I'm
running v5.0.8 and HELPABOUT still shows v5.0.8.  I
re-installed v4.2.44 a second time and still no change.

What did I miss?

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Can't remove v5

2011-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Bat People,

Like many others on the list, I too feel the need to revert
to an earlier version.  I've learned from the list that you
can't just reinstall an earlier version but have to remove
v5 first.  Unfortunately, I can't delete version 5.  I've
used Windows Add and Remove Programs and when that didn't
work, used the Revo uninstaller.  Admittedly I did not run
Revo balls to the wall, full on because at one point in the
removal process it showed that it was going to remove a
whole bunch of stuff (like my custom .wav files) that I
didn't want removed.  I declined that part of it.

I did do a backup of v5 before attempting to remove it in
the hopes that if everything crashed and burned, I might be
able to get myself back to a working program even if it was
still v5.  What exactly does a backup contain?  Would the
.wav files be in there?  Will a previous version (should I
ever be able to load one) be able to use a backup made by
v5?

Revo is pretty thorough and I'm terrified that I'm going to
lose all my messages and more if I allow it to run full
bore.

I would really like to revert to v4.2.44 but have no idea
what I'm doing wrong or if I'm worrying about things that
will be ok if I do successfully revert at some point.

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Re: Can't remove v5

2011-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Alto,

On Monday, July 25, 2011 you wrote:

AS Hi,


 Unfortunately, I can't delete version 5. I've used Windows Add and
 Remove Programs [...]

AS What happened when you ran the uninstaller?


 and when that didn't work, used the Revo uninstaller.

AS Bad idea. You never know what tools like this do or do not remove, 
AS what may or may not belong to the program you're working on.


 I would really like to revert to v4.2.44 [...]

AS If you have a full backup anyway, why don't you try a more direct
AS approach: Rename thebat.exe to thebat.exe.v5, then do a standard
AS install of v4. Afterwards there should be a new old thebat.exe
AS there, which should ideally be able to handle your existing
AS messagebase. If it can not, you're no worse off than before, just
AS reinstall v5 again and if necessary restore your backup.


Wow!  That was easy.  I did exactly as the above paragraph
suggests and in seconds, I'm once again running v4.2.44.2.
Everything seems to be where it should be.  I don't think
I'll be so quick to upgrade in the future.

Thank you Alto and Si.  Alas, if only all tech support were
this good.

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Re: Can't remove v5

2011-07-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Mark,

On Monday, July 25, 2011 you wrote:


MP Hello Alto,

MP Monday, July 25, 2011, 5:37:47 PM, you wrote:

AS Bad idea. You never know what tools like this do or do not remove, 
AS what may or may not belong to the program you're working on.

MP I suppose you haven't used Revo Uninstaller yet.

MP 1) First it creates a system restore point before uninstalling a program
MP 2) Then it uses the program's own uninstall (if any)
MP 3) After that it offers the possibility to search the registry for any 
leftovers,
MPlists them and leaves the user the choice wether he wants to remove any 
of these (all individually selectable)
MP 4) Finally it can search for any left over files and folders.  Once again 
it is up to the user to decide wether he wants
MPto delete them or not (none are selected automatically, as is the case 
for the registry items in point 3 and the user
MPcan skip steps 3 and 4) (x)

I just wanted to confirm what Mark is saying here.  I've
used Revo Uninstaller (free version) for many years and
never once have I had a problem with it removing anything I
needed.  I don't even question the things it wants to remove
anymore and just let it have it's way, confident that
nothing will be harmed.  But, because I know how well it
works, I was reluctant to let it remove TB because I was
afraid it would remove my message base or something else
required for TB to run.

Like Mark, I too have had programs which simply refused to
be removed through conventional means only to have them
obliterated finally by Revo; and, you can't beat free.

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Re: Can't remove v5

2011-07-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Alto,

On Tuesday, July 26, 2011 you wrote:

AS Hello Jack,


 I've used Revo Uninstaller (free version) for many years and never
 once have I had a problem with it removing anything I needed. I
 don't even question the things it wants to remove anymore and just
 let it have it's way, confident that nothing will be harmed.

AS My point exactly. The artificial intelligence of such programs just
AS isn't (can't be) good enough to handle all situations without fail,
AS and the user is tempted to just click do it instead of verifying
AS each step himself.

AS If it helps you out of tight spots, great. However, if anyone states
AS I used Revo [make that any kind of] uninstaller, to me this means
AS that let go of all hope and reinstall Windows, if you want any kind
AS of reliable system conditions again.

I understand your concern Alto as I had those same concerns
when I first used Revo, I had no idea what it was showing me
(that it said should be deleted) but the fact that
programmers would write code that did not completely remove
all traces of itself when uninstalled was extremely
undisciplined and just pushed me over the edge.  The thought
that my registry was just filling up with now useless
entries was more than I could tolerate.  Call me foolish for
feeling that way but I couldn't help it and Revo offered to
clean up all that useless stuff without harming my system.
And so it has all these years.

I learned of Revo Uninstaller from Kim Komando whose
knowledge I have come to trust.  She has her detractors but
then, what radio/newspaper celebrity doesn't.  I have
taken her computer advice for many years and have yet to
regret doing anything she recommended.  If she gave bad
advice you can rest assured that the news of it would be
splashed all over the airwaves and the newspapers for which
she writes.  I think the same holds true for Revo.  If it
wasn't able to live up to what it claims, it would have
crashed and burned a long time ago.

Maybe Mark and I and others have been lucky, or maybe the
program just works like it says it does.

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Re: Can't remove v5

2011-07-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Dwight,

On Tuesday, July 26, 2011 you wrote:

DC On Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 7:51:30 AM, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:
DC  
 Kim Komando 

DC real name is? 
DC   

Sorry.  I forget sometimes that this list is world-wide.
Please see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Komando

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Fonts

2011-08-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Batties,

Once  again  I  have changed something (in this case a font)
and  don't remember how/where I did it.  I've spent the last
hour  looking  for where this change was made in the hopes I wouldn't have to 
bother the list again but...  alas, I can't find it.

Just for clarification, the  Window  Split mode I'm using is Full-Width Preview 
pane which looks like this:

-
|   |   |
|   |   |
|   |   |
|   A   |   B   |
|   |   |
|   |   |
-
|   |
|   |
|   |
|   C   |
|   |
|   |
-

Where A is the account tree, B is the list of emails contained in whichever 
account folder is selected in the account tree and C is the contents of 
whichever email is selected.

The font in C is the one in question and as I compose this email I see that 
it's also the font being used in this New Message.  I have been through 
Account Properties, Folder Properties and OptionsPreferences without success. 

Even though Account Properties and Folder properties both have an option to 
change the font on New Message, making a change from the apparent default 
Courier New,  has no effect and when you look at it again, it's back to 
Courier New as though you never changed it.  I'm not even sure that this font 
being used now is actually Courier New.

Any help will of course be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Fonts

2011-08-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roelof,

On Thursday, August 04, 2011 you wrote:

RO Hallo Jack,

RO On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:58:47 -0500GMT (4-8-2011, 16:58 , where I
RO live), you wrote:

JSL The font in C is the one in question and as I compose this
JSL email I see that it's also the font being used in this New
JSL Message.  I have been through Account Properties, Folder
JSL Properties and OptionsPreferences without success. 

RO What about
RO  Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Profile Layout

That did it.  My error lay in the fact that apparently
*some* font changes DO NOT require a TB! shutdown  restart
where this particular one does.  I had actually changed this
font and expected it to appear changed as soon as I closed
the font-change window.  When it did not, I assumed I was
changing the wrong font.

I'm thinking a SAVE/RESTORE PARAMETERS function might come
in handy sometimes for people like me who don't pay
attention to what they're doing.

Thank you Roelof.

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Re: Fonts

2011-08-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, August 04, 2011 you wrote:

TP hello Roelof and Jack,

 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:58:47 -0500GMT (4-8-2011, 16:58 , where I
 live), Jack wrote:

JSL The font in C is the one in question and as I compose this
JSL email I see that it's also the font being used in this New
JSL Message.  I have been through Account Properties, Folder
JSL Properties and OptionsPreferences without success. 

TP Roelof responded:

 What about
  Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Profile Layout

TP That's  the  place  I need to go to change fonts too.  I have recently
TP messed  with (upgraded) cpu, memory, OS (to Windows 7) and video card.
TP I can see that there is a font face and size box, but I cannot get
TP to  them.   They  are  off  the bottom of the box and I cannot seem to
TP figure out how to get to them.

TP I would appreciate any suggestions.

While this may not help you, I've found myself in similar
situations and subsequently learned my problems lay in the
desktop screen properties.  Close all windows (Windows
key+D) and right-click anywhere on the desktop.  Select
PROPERTIES and either or both of the tabs APPEARANCE or
SETTINGS can have the effect you describe.

Hopefully someone with considerably more knowledge that I
will also respond to your query.

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Re: Fonts

2011-08-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, August 04, 2011 you wrote:

TP hello Roelof and Jack,

 On Thu, 4 Aug 2011 09:58:47 -0500GMT (4-8-2011, 16:58 , where I
 live), Jack wrote:

JSL The font in C is the one in question and as I compose this
JSL email I see that it's also the font being used in this New
JSL Message.  I have been through Account Properties, Folder
JSL Properties and OptionsPreferences without success. 

TP Roelof responded:

 What about
  Options - Preferences - Viewer/Editor - Profile Layout

TP That's  the  place  I need to go to change fonts too.  I have recently
TP messed  with (upgraded) cpu, memory, OS (to Windows 7) and video card.
TP I can see that there is a font face and size box, but I cannot get
TP to  them.   They  are  off  the bottom of the box and I cannot seem to
TP figure out how to get to them.

TP I would appreciate any suggestions.

Oops.  I'm sure you've found out by now that (Windows key)+D
actually minimizes, not closes all open windows.

Sorry about that.

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Re: Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Leonard,

On Friday, August 12, 2011 you wrote:

LSB Last spring, I posted the following:

I have been having e-mail to several Gmail users. I wonder whether
other folks have been having this problem and whether anyone knows
what can be done about this?

Your message cannot be delivered to the following recipients:

LSB I did not put a lot of energy in pursuing this issue as, oddly
LSB enough, I do not need to respond to Gmail users very often, and could
LSB resend the reply from my wife's account* fairly easily.

LSB The other day I noticed the following:

LSB When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:

LSB Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

LSB That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to

LSB msn...@gmail.com

LSB the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

Leonard, Mortimer Snerd... You're showing your age... As am
I for making that comment.

Anyway, I don't see any difference in the two addresses.  Am
I missing something?


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Re: Gmail issues (re-opened)

2011-08-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Friday, August 12, 2011 you wrote:

 A Bat-fellow, Jack S. LaRosa,
 wrote in mid:111247957.20110812102...@charter.net
 on Friday, 12th August 2011 at 10:21:51 (GMT -0500), 
 which was 17:21 in Bratislava --

 The other day I noticed the following:

 When I reply (usually via f4), the reply is addressed to, for example:
 Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com

 That will always bounce. However, if I change the reply addressee to
 msn...@gmail.com

 the e-mail message will travel smoothly to its destination.

 I don't see any difference in the two addresses.  Am I missing something?


 I can confirm issues in this vein, although they're not too frequent for me,
 fortunately.

 Sometimes it does happen that a message will bounce if it's rather
 elaborately addressed in the TO field. But when you re-send the same
 message using only the recipient's email address and nothing else in
 the TO field, then the message will go through successfully.

 I suppose there are 3 ways the above address could appear in the TO field
 in the email's headers:

 To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
 To: Mortimer Snerd msn...@gmail.com
 To: msn...@gmail.com

 Only the last option of these 3 is *really* safe to go through. Some folks
 are crazy and put all sorts of things in their Reply-to field that don't
 really belong there, which then results in addresses such as:

 Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician lat...@grave.com

 Now when you attempt to reply to an address like that, The Bat!
 displays it as follows in the TO field in the Editor window:

 \Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician\ lat...@grave.com

 Lots of ugly escape characters to look at; such things should be
 hidden from the user's eye. And, that's nothing compared to the
 goulash that actually gets sent in the email's header, where the above
 might look something like this:

 To: =?utf-8?Q?=22Dr. Johnny Lately - Your Trustworthy Physician=22?= 
 lat...@grave.com

 If you think *that's* messy, just write to someone whose name contains
 a diacritic letter... *then* things start getting *really* messy, and
 the TO filed in the email's headers becomes next to impossible to parse
 with human eye. Under such circumstances, I'm not surprised some
 messages containing headers like that get falsely labelled as spam.
 To avoid these problems, you might want to use only the recipient's
 address, and nothing else, in the TO field; I sometimes manually
 delete everything else that's in there, to make sure the message goes
 through without any delivery problems.

R I  have  never  had  a  problem  with  Gmail addresses - in ANY of the
R possible formats

Ah! NOW I see.

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Re: Learning to use Mail Ticker

2011-08-29 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Bill,

On Monday, August 29, 2011 you wrote:

BM Bat Folk,

BM I have been using The Bat! for about 8 years but I have never
BM used the Mail Ticker. Now with the updated GUI of Windows 7, I
BM decided to try it.

BM In looking at the crawl (in thin view), I can see the From, Subj,
BM Size and two other things: an icon on the left that is usually a
BM green square; and a letter under the Size, usually an A but at
BM least once a P.

BM Unfortunately, the documentation is (typically) poor! Can anyone
BM point me to better documention? grin

BM Or at least tell me what these last two might mean?

After another test I see that MFPA's guess regarding mail
priorty is correct.  I just sent myself a message and
changed it to high priorty before sending.  Upon receipt the
formerly green square displayed in the ticker has been
replaced by a red square with an arrow in it.

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Re: Learning to use Mail Ticker

2011-08-29 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Bill,

On Monday, August 29, 2011 you wrote:

BM Bat Folk,

BM I have been using The Bat! for about 8 years but I have never
BM used the Mail Ticker. Now with the updated GUI of Windows 7, I
BM decided to try it.

BM In looking at the crawl (in thin view), I can see the From, Subj,
BM Size and two other things: an icon on the left that is usually a
BM green square; and a letter under the Size, usually an A but at
BM least once a P.

BM Unfortunately, the documentation is (typically) poor! Can anyone
BM point me to better documention? grin

BM Or at least tell me what these last two might mean?

I had hoped to be able to show you what appears on my
machine when I invoke the mail ticker but, it was not to be.
I'll have to describe what I'm seeing instead.

I have not been able to determine what the green square is
which is also displayed on my ticker just as you describe.
The A and P might be the AM or PM associated with
the time of receipt of the message as that is what my ticker
shows below the size.  I don't know why your ticker would
not show the time properly but we have seen some display
problems caused by Windows font size.  You can search the
Bat! mail archive here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/

for references to font size problems.

Best of luck.

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Export address book to iPad

2011-11-12 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

My wife just got a new 32g iPad and needs to know if there's
a way to export her TB! address book into the iPad's
CONTACTS.  For some reason she doesn't want to have to
manually type them in.  Go figure.  Anyway, I know that
TB!'s address book can be exported to a csv file, but then
how do you get the iPad to copy the resulting Excell file
into it's contacts?

A Google search on this subject yielded less than promising
solutions. I figured if there was anybody who would know how
to do this he/she would be found on this list.

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Re: Export address book to iPad

2011-11-14 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Daniel,

On Monday, November 14, 2011 you wrote:

DR On 12/11/2011 12:03 PM, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:
 Greetings,

 My wife just got a new 32g iPad and needs to know if there's
 a way to export her TB! address book into the iPad's
 CONTACTS.  For some reason she doesn't want to have to
 manually type them in.  Go figure.  Anyway, I know that
 TB!'s address book can be exported to a csv file, but then
 how do you get the iPad to copy the resulting Excell file
 into it's contacts?

 A Google search on this subject yielded less than promising
 solutions. I figured if there was anybody who would know how
 to do this he/she would be found on this list.

DR Did you see this: http://forums.techarena.in/tips-tweaks/1322365.htm

DR Although it mentions the iPod, it might also work with the iPad, because 
DR it is using iTunes for Windows.

My sincerest appreciation for finding this Daniel. It worked
perfectly in getting the CSV file copied into the Windows
CONTACTS folder (which I didn't even know existed.) The
syncing into the iPad went smoothly also. I just have to do
some tweaking to make sure those TB! address book entries
which have street addresses get transferred over properly.

Thanks to you and those like you, this list has yet to fail
me.

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Re: formatting

2011-12-16 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Avi,

On Friday, December 16, 2011 you wrote:

A Hi, all,

A Is it possible to have left and right margins with hanging indents,
A etc. when sending an e-mail that is not plain text?   One can
A format an e-mail in Outlook, just as if they were writing in Word.
A However, I can't figure out how to do that when sending an HTML post
A via The Bat.  Indeed, when I copied text from a Word Document into an
A e-mail, I lost inset margins.

Keeping in mind that I have no idea of what I speak, is it
possible that any formatting codes imbedded in a Word
document might not be understood by TB!? Or have I just
totally misunderstood what you're asking?

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Embedding URLs

2011-12-16 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Batties,

So, no HTML email on the list? Is that what I've been doing
wrong?

Sorry about all this.

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HTML line length

2012-02-15 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

I sometimes receive emails in HTML format with
line lengths exceeding the width of my screen.  Is
this set by the sender's editor or is there
something I could change in TB!  to keep the line
lengths within the confines of my screen?

If I reply to these messages my text also exceeds
the screen width yet if I compose a new HTML
message, lines are automatically wrapped before
the end of the screen is reached.

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Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers. Thanks.

2012-02-22 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

I have received several of these (string in subject line)
over the past few months and assumed it was an Apple problem
simply because Apple was the sender. It wasn't until I
searched for this string on-line that I learned it was
actually being generated by TB!. If I understand what's
happening, Apple is sending me HTML messages which TB! is
having trouble displaying in HTML format. The actual body of
the message (from Apple) can be viewed by clicking on the
TEXT tab at the bottom of said message.

So, if my assumptions are correct, to whom should I forward
these?

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Not sure what to do with this

2012-02-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Batties,

I have received several of these HTML messages with the
following line as the entire message:

Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers.
Thanks.

I assumed it was an Apple problem simply because Apple was
the sender. It wasn't until I searched for this string
on-line that I learned it's apparently being generated by
TB!. If I understand what's happening, Apple is sending me
HTML messages which TB! is having trouble displaying in
HTML. The actual text of the message (from Apple) can be
displayed by clicking on the TEXT tab at the bottom of that
message.

So, if my assumptions are correct, to whom should I forward
these?  The line doesn't contain any links.

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Re: Not sure what to do with this

2012-02-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Monday, February 27, 2012 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF Monday, February 27, 2012, 8:49:12 PM, you wrote:

JSL Invalid HTML ! Please forward this message to developers.
JSL Thanks.

TF [...]

JSL So, if my assumptions are correct, to whom should I forward
JSL these?  The line doesn't contain any links.

TF Your assumptions are correct, and I don't know who at Ritlabs is now
TF in charge of HTML development. If in doubt, send to max [at] ritlabs.com

Thank you Thomas, I'll do as you suggest.

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Re: SPAM Filter

2012-02-29 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Jeff,

On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 you wrote:

JG Hello Group

JG I've  been away from Windows for a while but I'm now back home with XP
JG x64 and TheBat v 5.0.34.

JG I see we no longer have the BayesIT (? spelling) plug in for a variety
JG of reasons.

JG What  do  people use/recommend in its place? It's useful to be able to
JG identify SPAM and have it moved to a junk folder.

Years ago a similar question was asked and the suggestion at
that time was K9 from KEIR.NET which I have used ever since
with great success. It's a Bayesian (sp?) filter which will
tag spam with the word SPAM in the subject line. From there
you can create a filter to move it to another folder.

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Auto-wrap

2012-05-07 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Batties,

For reasons I'm unable to discern my HTML replies
(and probably other things) don't auto-wrap until
they're beyond the edge of the screen. I'd like to
get each line of a paragraph to wrap somewhere
before the edge of the screen. Where should I look
to set this?

I defer to the vastly superior knowledge on this list.

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Pasting images in HTML messages

2012-05-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Mornin' Batties,

In the past I was always able to paste images in
my HTML messages and now am no longer able to do
so. When I CTRL-V to paste the image the cursor
moves to the right one space but the image doesn't
appear. Also, forwarding received messages which
contain images now strips the images from the
forwarded message prior to sending.

I'm assuming I've changed some setting somewhere
but have no idea where or what. Any help in this
would be greatly appreciated.

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Messages getting through?

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

I'm a little perplexed. I have written a couple of
messages to the list in the past few months and
have never seen any responses to my queries. The
messages seem to be reaching the list as they
appear the next time I do a fetch but then nothing
further.

Can anyone see this message?

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Saturday, May 26, 2012 you wrote:

 Greetings,

 I'm a little perplexed. I have written a couple of
 messages to the list in the past few months and
 have never seen any responses to my queries. The
 messages seem to be reaching the list as they
 appear the next time I do a fetch but then nothing
 further.

 Can anyone see this message?

R I see it. I delete my messages so cant confirm
R the others other than one that was sent about
R auto wrap.

Thank you Rick. Well, at least I know that one got
through. I guess there just weren't any answers to
my questions.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Lynn,

On Saturday, May 26, 2012 you wrote:

L On 5/26/2012, you wrote:


 Can anyone see this message?

L Yes.  I  have  one from you on the 25th, too. I don't keep
L all, so don't know about others -

L Best -

Thank you Lynn. I appreciate the response.

Also, just as an aside, your sig (:Hawthorne:
:usflag: :canadaflag:) does not expand into your
Rougemoticon, the US flag and the Canadian flag.
Judging by how much luck I'm having getting things
to work correctly on my end, it may just be a
problem here although I do see other peoples
pictures so I'm wondering why yours is absent.
Your comely countenance does appear in the
complete list of Roguemoticons at
http://www.pcwize.com/ however.

If I've created a concern for you where none
should exist, my apologies.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Mark,

On Saturday, May 26, 2012 you wrote:


MP Hello Jack,

MP Saturday, May 26, 2012, 9:07:20 PM, you wrote:

JSL Thank you Rick. Well, at least I know that one got
JSL through. I guess there just weren't any answers to
JSL my questions.

MP Well,  in reply to:

MP ,--/  \
MP |  In the past I was always able to paste images in
MP |  my HTML messages and now am no longer able to do
MP |  so. When I CTRL-V to paste the image the cursor
MP |  moves to the right one space but the image doesn't
MP |  appear.
MP `-8---

MP I wanted to ask you if you were sure you were using the HTML-editor,
MP but decided that wouldn't be much of an help to you :-)

Funny you should ask. I recently switched from
Plain Text (MicroEd) (as I'm using here) to HTML
only and finally figured out that messages were
being returned by TBDL with the statement: The
message's content type was not explicitly
allowed. Since that reply is somewhat cryptic it
took me a while to realize that I couldn't use
HTML when writing to this list. Since then I've
used Plain Text (MicroEd) only when composing
messages to the list including those where I asked
why I couldn't insert pictures in HTML messages I
was sending to others (I think).

I'm going to try and set everything back to Plain
Text (MicroEd) and see if that fixes any of my
problems.

And thanks for replying. I appreciate the help.

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Messages getting through?

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings All,

In my reply to Mark I mentioned that I was going to revert back to Plain Text
(MicroEd) to see if that had any effect on the problems I was having and sure
enough, switching back cured the two problems I had asked about.

What's that old saying about leaving well enough alone...?

However, Lynn, I still can't see the images defined in your sig. Again I stress,
it's probably something here that I don't have set correctly.

Thank you all for the help.

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Re: Pasting images in HTML messages

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Saturday, May 26, 2012 you wrote:

 Mornin' Batties,

 In the past I was always able to paste images in
 my HTML messages and now am no longer able to do
 so. When I CTRL-V to paste the image the cursor
 moves to the right one space but the image doesn't
 appear. Also, forwarding received messages which
 contain images now strips the images from the
 forwarded message prior to sending.

 I'm assuming I've changed some setting somewhere
 but have no idea where or what. Any help in this
 would be greatly appreciated.

R I  have  that same issue too. It USED to work and sometimes (from some
R copy sources) it will STILL work

R Dragging  a  single image into the body of an email opened for editing
R will also insert it

My problems apparently began when I switched my editor choice
(OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-VIEWER/EDITOR) to HTML only. I could no longer INSERT a
picture in a message. I could attach but not insert.

Changing  (OPTIONS-PREFERENCES-VIEWER/EDITOR) back to Plain Text (MicroEd) put
everything back to normal.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Lynn,

On Saturday, May 26, 2012 you wrote:

L On 5/26/2012, you wrote:

 However, Lynn, I still can't see the images defined in your sig. Again I 
 stress,
 it's probably something here that I don't have set correctly.


L I'm  pretty  sure  it's something at my end, but I haven't
L had  the  time  to dig around and figure it out. If anyone
L has any ideas, I'll be glad to hear them, though.

L Thanks again!

L Best -

Lynn, I found this in the archives. It's too late and my brain is too fuzzy
right now to figure how how to make it work but maybe you'll have better luck.

http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg75148.html

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Roguemoticon test

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

No message.

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Roguemoticon test

2012-05-26 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

No message.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Miguel,

On Sunday, May 27, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,


 However, Lynn, I still can't see the images defined in your sig. Again I 
 stress,
 it's probably something here that I don't have set correctly.

M See my reply to Lynn.

I did ,thank you. I still cannot see any of the three images defined in Lynn's
sig so apparently (as I surmised) I have something here not set properly. I did
confirm as you suggested to Lynn that Use Plain Text Viewer *was not* checked
and Smileys *was* checked.

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Miguel,

On Sunday, May 27, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,


 X-Rogue: :Deuxdad: :usflag:

M AFAIK X-Rogue header is just for your picture, not for flags, etc. But I
M cant find your rogue (picture) in the current list at
M http://www.pcwize.com/

Thanks for the info on X-Rouge. In my heart I knew it wasn't going to be that
easy.

As far as my picture not appearing in the complete list @pcwize.com, you're
correct because yesterday I uploaded a new picture which apparently has yet to
be approved.



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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Sunday, May 27, 2012 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Sunday 27 May 2012 at 1:36:32 PM, in
M mid:1731578849.20120527073...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 As far as my picture not appearing in the complete list
 @pcwize.com, 

M If you are referring to the rogues gallery at 
M http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.php, some don't appear there 
M because the individual has not ticked Do you want your picture to 
M appear in the Rogues Gallery on their account page.

Actually I had decided to replace the picture that's been in there for a few
years with something a little lighter. So the option to which you refer has been
ticked for quite some time. It states that pictures uploaded to the Rogues
gallery must be approved before they'll appear.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roger,

On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote:

RP Hello Miguel,
RP Monday, May 28, 2012, 11:55:06 AM, among other things, you wrote:

M Options/Preferences/Viewer/Editor/HTML Viewer/'Use smiley icons in HTML 
M viewer' makes a difference, it should be ticked. Then, what I suggest in 
M my previous message works.

RP I  already  had  that  setting  and  have now tried all combinations of HTML
RP choices, but still no flags or sender picture.

RP Anyway,  thanks  for  trying  to  help.   I think it is just another case of
RP something  working  in  one computer but not in another.  This unfortunately
RP seems to be a problem quite often with TB.  A pity nobody else has said what
RP they are seeing.

Roger, I *think* I have everything set up as Miguel suggests:
http://clip2net.com/s/1YdpX and I don't see any of Lynn's images either. Looking
at the insides of my C:\Program Files\The Bat! folder I have a folder called
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only one
flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program
Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of
flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me.

Although I have no recollection of manipulating these folders in any way, I have
no idea if this is the way these folders and files are supposed to be
arranged within my C:\Program Files\The Bat! folder.

Please note that in my sig it shows that I'm still using ver: 4.2.44.2 so your
concerns regarding v5 may be unfounded.


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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,

 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only 
 one
 flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program
 Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of
 flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me.

M It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the
M past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP
M to extract).

M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three 
M folders and three *.msl files, namely:
M  Default 
M  pcwimages
M  rogues
M  default.msl
M  pcwsmileys.msl
M  rogues.msl

M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding 
M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder.

M If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the
M corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so,
M move or copy the newer version to Images folder.

Aha! I was missing the pcwsmileys.msl file which I found elsewhere (obviously
not where it was supposed to be) and copied it to my C:\Program Files\The
Bat!\Images folder. NOW when I revisit one of Lynn's previous emails I can see
her animated .gif of the American flag and her non-animated .gif of the Canadian
flag.

However, her Rougemoticon (:Hawthorne:), which is also in her sig, doesn't
display her picture. But I think that needs to be in her X-Rogue header as mine
is in order to display her picture elsewhere onscreen (not in the sig.)

In order to stave off any confusion, my picture has not been changed even though
I submitted a new picture and was notified that it had been approved. The latest
rogues.zip file still contains the old photo. In addition, my picture no longer
displays (as it once did) when I look at a message I've sent to the list. Ah,
the joys of TB!

Thanks Miguel. This is the first time I've ever been able to see the flags.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,

 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only 
 one
 flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program
 Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of
 flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me.

M It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the
M past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP
M to extract).

M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three 
M folders and three *.msl files, namely:
M  Default 
M  pcwimages
M  rogues
M  default.msl
M  pcwsmileys.msl
M  rogues.msl

M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding 
M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder.

M If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the
M corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so,
M move or copy the newer version to Images folder.

As mentioned in the previous reply I can see Lynn's flags now thanks to your
help. However, when I add :usflag: to my sig (as it is here) I do not see the
flag, only the :usflag: rougemoticon (if that's what it's supposed to be
called.) Do you suppose it has to be sent and received before it will appear? I
guess I'll find out.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,

 C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images which contains a lot of smileys but only 
 one
 flag: Flag-Netherlands.jpg. However, if I go deeper and open C:\Program
 Files\The Bat!\Images\pcwimages, I find more smileys and a whole bunch of
 flags. Why the smileys should be in two separate folders is a mystery to me.

M It may be due to extracting some ZIP file(s) in the wrong place in the
M past. (Selecting, or not, the 'Use folder names' option if using WinZIP
M to extract).

M The C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images folder should *ONLY* contain three 
M folders and three *.msl files, namely:
M  Default 
M  pcwimages
M  rogues
M  default.msl
M  pcwsmileys.msl
M  rogues.msl

M If you do not have any of the msl files, look in the corresponding 
M folder and see if it is there. If so, move¨or copy it to 'Images' folder.

M If you have all or some of the msl files in 'Images', look inside the
M corresponding folder and see if there is a newer version there. If so,
M move or copy the newer version to Images folder.

Yep. That's what it was. The US flag now appears on the line containing Central
Alabama in my sig.

Thanks again Miguel.

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Flag test

2012-05-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

Just a test.

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Re: Messages getting through?

2012-05-28 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Monday, May 28, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,


 Yep. That's what it was. The US flag now appears on the line containing 
 Central
 Alabama in my sig.

 Thanks again Miguel.

M You owe me eleventeen beers ;-)

Ok, I'd appreciate it if you'd start a tab because now I realize that I'm no
longer seeing any Rogue pictures. When I select to display the X-Rogue header I
see that you have :mau: in your email X-Rogue header so I should be seeing your
picture as I used to, but not any longer. Any ideas?

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-29 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Sunday 27 May 2012 at 1:36:32 PM, in
M mid:1731578849.20120527073...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 As far as my picture not appearing in the complete list
 @pcwize.com, 

M If you are referring to the rogues gallery at 
M http://www.pcwize.com/thebat/rogues.php, some don't appear there 
M because the individual has not ticked Do you want your picture to 
M appear in the Rogues Gallery on their account page.

Actually, it does now (I just checked.) However, it did disappear when I
uploaded a new picture a couple of days ago. I assumed that was somehow part of
the approval process for new rouge pictures yet today my old picture is
displayed once again. That'll be a project for another day.

Right now I'm more concerned that since I started that Messages getting
through? thread and diverted to Lynn's flags not displaying for me in her sig
(since resolved), I can no longer see rogue pictures in my message header pane
and can't figure out why. BTW, I assume you know your picture is no longer in
the gallery unless you've replaced it with one I don't recognize.

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-29 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,

 I can no longer see rogue pictures in my message header pane and can't
 figure out why.

M Right click on message header pane and in context menu select 'Sender
M photo/Display sender' and see if that works.

Alas, it was already ticked. Thanks for the effort though.

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,


 I can no longer see rogue pictures in my message header pane and can't
 figure out why.

M Right click on message header pane and in context menu select 'Sender
M photo/Display sender' and see if that works.

 Alas, it was already ticked. Thanks for the effort though.

M I've run out of ideas. My only suggestion would then be to re-start from 
M scratch and make sure everything is in the right folder and the  correct 
M TB options selected. 

And therein lies the problem. What *ARE* the correct TB! options?

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MAU,

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 you wrote:

M Hello Jack,


M I've run out of ideas. My only suggestion would then be to re-start from 
M scratch and make sure everything is in the right folder and the  correct 
M TB options selected. 

 And therein lies the problem. What *ARE* the correct TB! options?

M Review mids below, AFAIK the answer should be there:
M  
M mid:614545132.20120527094...@gmail.com
M mid:1174891126.20120528115...@gmail.com
M mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com
M mid:1917951124.20120529193...@gmail.com

My apologies Miguel. I though there were some options that we had not yet
covered when I asked what the correct TB! options were. Everything I have
matches what you've stated. I did find a file called pdsf.msl which I deleted
because it wasn't listed in your mid:1573422883.20120528172...@gmail.com message
but this made no difference.

I'll keep experimenting since this function used to work perfectly up until a
few days ago. If I miraculously find the solution I'll be sure and post it to
the list.

Again my thanks for all your help.

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Wednesday 30 May 2012 at 4:39:55 PM, in
M mid:148700814.20120530103...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 I'll keep experimenting since this function used to
 work perfectly up until a few days ago. 


M Any idea what (if anything) you changed a few days ago?

M Are the rogues still in the correct location? 

M I have the rogues.msl file at %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images 
M and the rogue images themselves at 
M %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!\Images\rogues 
M (and my thebat.exe is at %ProgramFiles%\The Bat!)

My file/folder locations are a match to yours. The thing I'm most
confused/concerned about is the selections I've made at OPTIONS - PREFERENCES -
VIEWER/EDITOR. The selection choices don't make a lot of sense to me and I
believe this is where I might have screwed things up. The following link goes to
a screenshot of that window so you can see what's selected:
http://clip2net.com/s/1YT0n. If you're not familiar with clip2net, it's a free
program which allows you to select any part of your screen and post it to the
web (their server I presume) and gives you a link to allow others to see that
portion of your screen that you've posted.

If you choose to follow the link and view my selections you might see that they
differ from yours in some way that prevents me from seeing the rogue pictures.
If you choose not to follow the link for whatever reason I'll understand but
perhaps you might be able to clarify the differences between the selections.

I really appreciate your attempts to assist me but please don't spend time on
this that could be better spent doing something more important to you.

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Re: Roguemoticon test

2012-05-30 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Tuesday 29 May 2012 at 5:26:21 PM, in
M mid:1031606128.20120529112...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:



 BTW, I
 assume you know your picture is no longer in the
 gallery unless you've replaced it with one I don't
 recognize.

M That is by choice. As far as I know, my picture has never shown in the 
M Rogues Gallery due to my decision not to tick the Do you want your 
M picture to appear... box. (-;

Ah! Didn't think of that.

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Re: Roguemoticon test (Solved!)

2012-06-05 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Tuesday, June 05, 2012 you wrote:

 SNIP 
 SNIP 

While dismayed that your reply didn't magically solve my problem without my
having to continue to think about it, I was very grateful that you obviously
looked at my settings and compared then to yours. In any event, your reply
spurred me on tackle the problem yet again (having abandoned it days ago for
less strident pursuits) where I looked again at my TB! folder in Program Files.
It was only then, after not having looked at it for a while that I noticed that
the C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\Rogues folder *contained* a folder called
Rogues, not the individual pictures. In other words the pictures were actually
located at C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\Rogues\Rogues where TB! couldn't
find them. Temporarily moving the C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\Rogues\Rogues
folder to my desktop, opening it and copying all the pictures to the clipboard
and then pasting them into the C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Images\Rogues\ folder
solved the problem.

My most heartfelt appreciation to all who tried to help me solve this. I doubt
I could have done it without you.

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Re: Flag test

2012-06-16 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Saturday, June 16, 2012 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF Monday, May 28, 2012, 11:38:29 PM, you wrote:

JSL Greetings,

JSL Just a test.

TF ... and?

TF --

TF Cheers,
TF Thomas.

TF http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

TF Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.2
TF under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3


TF 
TF Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
TF http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

Thanks for asking. All difficulties with flag and rogue displays have been
resolved. The flag displays were a relatively minor settings change while the
rogue display problem was a major (took a while) problem caused by my own
stupidity. I'm still no smarter than I was before but now at least the rogue
pictures display.

Now I'm plagued with the fact that I can't get my rogue picture changed even
though I'm notified that it HAS been changed.

None of these problems would have been solved in a timely manner without the
excellent help provided by the folks on this list. I am forever in their debt.

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Re: Flag test

2012-06-17 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, June 17, 2012 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

---8 SNIP ---

TF Thanks for confirming that the problems are solved. I got a bit
TF worried because I flag messages a lot, it is a crucial part of my
TF working.

TF I was absent from the list for a while (only sporadically looking in),
TF so I missed most of the fun you are describing above.

TF --

TF Cheers,
TF Thomas.

TF http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/

TF Message reply created with The Bat! 5.1.6.4
TF under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 3


TF 
TF Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
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Hmmm. I may be misinterpreting your text when you say you flag messages a lot.
Are you referring to the message flags which denote message priority, request
delivery confirmation or request reading confirmation? If so, these were not
the flags to which we were referring. The subject of the thread was the method
of displaying country flags in our sigs (or anywhere else for that matter) and I
don't see any country flags in your message. My USA flag should be appearing
immediately below my name in my sig.

I did notice that your cut mark wasn't working which caused me to examine mine
only to discover that mine had somehow been corrupted as well. I probably don't
have to remind you that the cut mark has to be dashdashspacereturn. My
cut mark was missing the space, as is yours.

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Re: Flag test

2012-06-17 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Sunday, June 17, 2012 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF Sunday, June 17, 2012, 8:25:06 PM, you wrote:

TF Thanks for confirming that the problems are solved. I got a bit
TF worried because I flag messages a lot, it is a crucial part of my
TF working.

JSL Hmmm. I may be misinterpreting your text when you say you flag messages 
a lot.
JSL Are you referring to the message flags which denote message priority, 
request
JSL delivery confirmation or request reading confirmation? If so, these 
were not
JSL the flags to which we were referring.

TF I was indeed referring to the flag flag, this little red thing you
TF can toggle with crtl-G when a message is highlighted in the message
TF list.

JSL The subject of the thread was the method of displaying country
JSL flags in our sigs (or anywhere else for that matter) and I don't
JSL see any country flags in your message. My USA flag should be
JSL appearing immediately below my name in my sig.

TF Ah well: No, it doesn't. Checking some messages from other people,
TF their country flags don't display either. I was all the PWCsmileys.

TF Not an issue for me though, definitely not a show-stopper.

JSL I did notice that your cut mark wasn't working which caused me to
JSL examine mine only to discover that mine had somehow been
JSL corrupted as well. I probably don't have to remind you that the
JSL cut mark has to be dashdashspacereturn. My cut mark was
JSL missing the space, as is yours.

TF I have now manually adjusted my New and Reply templates. They were
TF lost for TBUDL and TBBETA for some reason. Hope it works this time.


Your cut mark now works perfectly. I hope mine did as well.

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Re: confirmation receipts

2012-07-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Achdut18,

On Sunday, July 01, 2012 you wrote:

A Hi, all,

A Does The Bat have a functionality that allows a sender of a message
A to receive automatic confirmation that the recipient has opened the
A message?

A I will occasionally receive in Outlook e-mail from colleagues, that,
A when opened, also opens up a pop-up dialogue box that asks me if I
A want to send confirmation of the receipt of the message to the
A sender.  Does this functionality exist in The Bat or, is it even
A possible to know if the message was opened without providing the
A recipient the option of confirming or not confirming receipt of the
A message.

A I will soon be sending hold the date e-mails to a large group and
A it would be nice to know which people in the group at the least, opened up 
the
A e-mail.

A Thanks for any help you can provide.


At the bottom of the editor screen you should see 3 icons to the right of your
language selection. The one on the far right is the request reading confirmation
icon.

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Forward vs redirect

2012-08-15 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

I recently received a suspicious email from one of my credit card accounts and
was instructed by the credit card company to *forward* the suspicious email to
their fraud address. That got me to wondering; what's the difference between
forwarding and redirecting? I realize that a redirect does not contain any of
the forwarding verbiage but is that the only difference? Does the recipient of
a redirected email then believe that the email was sent to them originally since
there was no text indicating that it was in fact received by someone else first?

If I've made this question more confusing than it should be, my apologies.

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Forward vs redirect

2012-08-15 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings,

My thanks to those of you who have already responded to my query. As a
precaution I both FORWARDed and REDIRECTed the possibly bogus message to the
credit card company's abuse address.

It didn't dawn on me until I sent my query to the list that I could simply
FORWARD and REDIRECT that email to my wife and then go see what it looked like
on her computer.

Anyway, another question answered thanks to the hospitality and knowledge of the
members of this list.

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Installation of v5.0.8

2012-09-24 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings All,

Some time ago I upgraded to version 5.0.8 and installed it. However, because of
the way I had my PC screen configured TB! didn't display properly. At the time I
wanted to keep my PC screen configuration as it was so I reinstalled v4.2.44.2.
Since that time however I have gotten new glasses and can now tolerate a
normally configured screen.

What do I have to do to get v5.0.8 installed? I don't remember what I did when I
first successfully installed it so long ago. I tried running
thebat_home_5-0-8.msi and it seemed to be installing properly but as you can
see, I'm still running v4.2.44.2.

What am I missing?

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Re: Installation of v5.0.8

2012-09-24 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Roger,

On Monday, September 24, 2012 you wrote:

RP Hello Jack,
RP Monday, September 24, 2012, 3:01:49 PM, among other things, you wrote:

JSL Greetings All,

JSL Some time ago I upgraded to version 5.0.8 and installed it. However, 
because of
JSL the way I had my PC screen configured TB! didn't display properly. At the 
time I
JSL wanted to keep my PC screen configuration as it was so I reinstalled 
v4.2.44.2.
JSL Since that time however I have gotten new glasses and can now tolerate a
JSL normally configured screen.

JSL What do I have to do to get v5.0.8 installed? I don't remember what I did 
when I
JSL first successfully installed it so long ago. I tried running
JSL thebat_home_5-0-8.msi and it seemed to be installing properly but as you 
can
JSL see, I'm still running v4.2.44.2.

JSL What am I missing?

RP I'm not sure what you are missing with your installation process but version
RP 5.0.8  was  a disaster with many bugs.  I suggest that if you want to update
RP you should rather go to a more recent version such as 5-2.msi

Thank you Roger. Sound advice.

Installed without a hitch.

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Curious forwarded message

2012-10-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Knowledgeable People,

I just received a message (content below) which appears to be forwarded but does
not contain my email address anywhere. The FROM field contains a single address
from someone with whom I'm *not* acquainted. However, one of the six addresses 
in
the TO field is someone with whom I *AM* acquainted. Nowhere in the message does
my email address appear.

How did it get to me?


--- BEGIN COPY OF MESSAGE --



- Forwarded Message -
From: Betty x...@gmail.com
To: Jane/Michael x x...@ca.rr.com; Susan  ...@att.net; Rosalie 
xxx
xx...@hawaiiantel.net; Alicia  xxx...@gmail.com; Judy  
x...@aol.com;
Geri x xxx...@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: Fwd: Shuttle fly-over

Here is the most recent video produced by a good friend of ours. Enjoy!

Hi all,
 
Attached is a very short video of the Shuttle Endeavour's final flight over the
Golden Gate bridge and our house in LA. Just for fun and hopefully entertaining.
 
ENDEAVOURS FINAL FLIGHT  (link to video)
 
Enjoy,
B

-- 
Goodness exists.

Betty


-- END OF COPIED MESSAGE 

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Re: Curious forwarded message

2012-10-01 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Monday, October 01, 2012 you wrote:

 Greetings Knowledgeable People,

 I just received a message (content below) which appears to be forwarded but 
 does
 not contain my email address anywhere. The FROM field contains a single 
 address
 from someone with whom I'm *not* acquainted. However, one of the six 
 addresses in
 the TO field is someone with whom I *AM* acquainted. Nowhere in the message 
 does
 my email address appear.

 How did it get to me?


 --- BEGIN COPY OF MESSAGE
 --



 - Forwarded Message -
 From: Betty x...@gmail.com
 To: Jane/Michael x x...@ca.rr.com; Susan  ...@att.net; 
 Rosalie xxx
 xx...@hawaiiantel.net; Alicia  xxx...@gmail.com; Judy  
 x...@aol.com;
 Geri x xxx...@aol.com
 Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:12 PM
 Subject: Fwd: Shuttle fly-over

R you  may  have  been  in the BCC field - I get stuff like that all the
R time.


Good grief! It's confirmed then; I *am* an idiot! The BCC field never occurred
to me, thank you Rick.

One lives and occasionally, learns.

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Non-viewable pictures

2012-10-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings All,

A friend sent me an email which was supposed to contain a bunch of pictures,
none of which showed up when viewing the email in the VIEW→WINDOW SPLIT
MODE→FULL-WIDTH PREVIEW PANE. The left column in this view mode shows the icons
for the pictures which were a few GIFs but most were just labeled ATTx~1KB
where x was a number from 1 to 15. The KB size was different for each picture,
varying from less than 1KB to more than 31KB. The only icons which had
extensions were the GIFs (.gif). Clicking on a tab at the bottom of the window
would reveal each picture individually. However, when I clicked on REPLY and the
reply window opened, all the pictures were suddenly viewable in the reply
window.

Anyone have any ideas as to why this would work this way?

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Re: Non-viewable pictures

2012-10-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Thursday, October 04, 2012 you wrote:

 Greetings All,

 A friend sent me an email which was supposed to contain a bunch of pictures,
 none of which showed up when viewing the email in the VIEW→WINDOW SPLIT
 MODE→FULL-WIDTH PREVIEW PANE. The left column in this view mode shows the 
 icons
 for the pictures which were a few GIFs but most were just labeled 
 ATTx~1KB
 where x was a number from 1 to 15. The KB size was different for each 
 picture,
 varying from less than 1KB to more than 31KB. The only icons which had
 extensions were the GIFs (.gif). Clicking on a tab at the bottom of the 
 window
 would reveal each picture individually. However, when I clicked on REPLY and 
 the
 reply window opened, all the pictures were suddenly viewable in the reply
 window.

 Anyone have any ideas as to why this would work this way?

R Not specifically, but I often get graphics with the extension stripped
R but  the  Bat  can  read  them  correctly.  That is a problem with the
R sender's system settings or email provider, not with the Bat. Actually
R the Bat does an excellent job of interpreting these.

R If  all  else fails, detach and add the ending JPG of GIF and see what
R you get.


You were right Rick. Saving one of these to my desktop and renaming it so that
it had a .jpg extension made it viewable in Zoner Picture Studio (my viewer of
choice). Without the extension caused Windows to question what program it should
use to open the file.

But, why should TB! be unable to display them *except* in the reply window?

Curiouser and curiouser.

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Re: How to delete obsolete pop-up address?

2012-10-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Robert,

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 you wrote:

RB If I start typing a contact name in the To: field of a new message, TB
RB pops up a list of matching possibilities.  One of my contacts has
RB changed his e-mail address.  Please, how do I delete his old one from
RB the pop-up list?
RB   

I saw your message last night but couldn't reply at the time. I'm surprised no
one has responded yet.

If I interpret your query correctly, when the drop-down list of recently used
addresses appears, use your down arrow (not the mouse) to highlight (select) the
first address and then just use the arrow key to move to the address(s) you wish
to delete and press the DEL key.

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Re: How to delete obsolete pop-up address?

2012-10-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 you wrote:

Thanks, but that doesn't work for me! Nothing happens when I press Del.

R It doesn't work for me either on my system. At one time you could PARK those
R addresses you don't want to lose, but I no longer see that

Well, I don't get it.

If I start a new message and click the chevron (VIEW HISTORY) at the far right
of the TO field, I am presented with a history of most recently used addresses.
While the list is displayed I can press the down-arrow key (not the mouse
cursor) which causes the top address in the list to become highlighted. Once the
top address is highlighted I can continue to use the down-arrow key to travel
down in the list, the next address being highlighted with each down-arrow
keypress. Any address highlighted in this manner can then either be deleted by
pressing the DEL key or PARKed by pressing the space bar.

Are we running vastly different versions because I can't imagine these functions
being options hidden away somewhere.  I checked the archives
(http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl%40thebat.dutaint.com/) and everything I found
agrees with me although I couldn't find the part about the space bar but that
does work for me.

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Re: CA Root certificate

2012-10-25 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Paul,

On Thursday, October 25, 2012 you wrote:

PB Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB Friday, October 26, 2012, 10:57:15 AM, you wrote:

LSB On Thursday, October 25, 2012, 7:18:32 AM, you
LSB (tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com) wrote:

 One guess: Make sure your computer is showing the correct date.


LSB Do you think it is not showing the correct date? My sense is that the
LSB date and time are synched somehow automatically.

LSB Leoanrd

PB It is easy to check. In Windows you look at bottom right of screen to see if
PB the date is correct. You can right-click on the date and then left-click on
PB Adjust date/time.


Apparently Windows won't update the clock unless the date is already correct.

See: 
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/windows_date_it_overview.mspx?mfr=true

I have no idea if the clock has anything to do with CA Root certificates.

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First line indentation

2012-11-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings and salutations,

Whenever I click on the CREATE A NEW MESSAGE down arrow (next to the blank
page icon w/quill on it) for a specific person, and only this person, a new
message window opens up which contains text defined by a template somewhere as
it always has.  Lately I see that the first line of the text, Hi is indented a
few spaces.  It seems that the (partially) defining template is the one in the
ADB as I can change what the template says, e.g.  Hi to Hello but I can't
change the font or character size from this ADB template.  Where would font and
font size be defined for a specific person's new message?

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Re: First line indentation

2012-11-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Rick,

On Thursday, November 08, 2012 you wrote:

Where would font and font size be defined for a specific person's new message?
R Go to the address book entry, pick new message for that person then FORMAT /
R HTML THEN immediately turn off auto wrap, auto format and Justify on auto
R wrap or you will have a MESS I haven't checked to see if this is fixed, but
R in most templates you can do one thing then you must save it and go back in
R and do the next if the items you want are in the dropdown

Well, that solved my problem, sort of.  It seems I have to specify HTML in the
ADB template and then specify HTML in OPTIONSPREFERENCESVIEWER/EDITOR.  If I
then re-specify plain text in the ADB template, the indentation reappears when I
use the drop-down.

I don't mind having everything default to HTML, I just have to remember to
change it to plain text whenever I write to this list.

Thanks for the help Rick.

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Re: First line indentation

2012-11-09 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Friday, November 09, 2012 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Thursday 8 November 2012 at 9:09:22 PM, in
M mid:1910279006.20121108150...@jimkyle.com, Jim Kyle wrote:


 Thursday, November 8, 2012, 1:00:54 PM, Rick wrote:
 I don't mind having everything default to HTML, I just
 have to remember to change it to plain text whenever I
 write to this list.

 Or you could do what I did: create a separate account
 for just the list, with its own special options, but
 connecting to the same servers as my normal account.  


M Or use an AB template for the list address that sets the editor to 
M number 1 (plaintext MicroEd) or 2 (plaintext Windows editor)?

Thank you M, that works perfectly. Much simpler to my senile old brain than
Jim's suggestion (for which I'm very much appreciative anyway).

Thank you both.

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Re: TB! v5.2.2 doesn't work with GnuPG - can't query passphrase in batch mode

2012-11-27 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 you wrote:

--SNIP---

M If I switch to GnuPG 2.0.19, the problem goes away. (But is replaced by
M a non-TB!-related issue in that GnuPG 2.x requires passphrase entry
M via pinentry.exe, which will not accept the output from my password
M manager, Keepass 1.24.)

Not knowing how familiar you are with KeePass, please forgive my presumption to
suggest you try the {DELAY=} where I believe xx represents microseconds.  
This
command slows the outputting of username and password characters.  I have had
many obstinate login pages tamed by this command.

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Subject line says (see body)

2013-01-23 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Oracle,

I tried several times to send someone an email whose subject line read PayPal
but none of the attempts were successful.  It wasn't until I changed the subject
line to read PP that it finally went through.  Because of that I refrained
from putting the word PayPal in the subject line of THIS email because I
didn't want to chance that this email wouldn't get through.

My method was to drag the original email from the SENT folder back to the OUTBOX
folder and re-send it.  TB! always showed the CONNECTION CENTER box sending the
email.  This method always failed but the message always re-appeared in the SENT
mail folder every time I did this.  It wasn't until I changed the subject line
from PayPal to PP that the recipient finally received it.

I will refrain from making derogatory remarks about PayPay for fear of
retribution but does anyone have any idea as to why this would occur?

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Re: Subject line says (see body)

2013-01-23 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Geoff,

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 you wrote:

GL On 23 January 2013, 17:48, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:

 This method always failed but the message always re-appeared in the SENT
 mail folder every time I did this.  It wasn't until I changed the subject 
 line
 from PayPal to PP that the recipient finally received it.

GL This suggests that TB! successfully transmitted the message. That is
GL wasn't getting through to the intended recipient suggests it was
GL blocked en-route between the server TB! handed it to and the
GL recipient's email client.

 I will refrain from making derogatory remarks about PayPay for fear of
 retribution but does anyone have any idea as to why this would occur?

GL Often ISP's anti-spam filters, both outgoing and incoming, can be a
GL little overzealous IME. The same can be said of desktop anti-spam
GL software. Your messages probably had to pass through three or more
GL such filters. So many pieces of phishing spam claim to be from Paypal,
GL that some false positives are almost inevitable, and I suspect that
GL your message was falsely tagged as spam.

GL HTH,

Hmmm, interesting (and probably correct).  After sending these several attempts
I went directly to my email ISP's site and looked at my email directly and found
no evidence that the ISP had ever handled the message.  I'm not sure what to
make of that.

Thank you Geoff.

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Re: [TBUDL] Subject line says (see body)

2013-01-23 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello St,

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 you wrote:


 Often ISP's anti-spam filters, both outgoing and incoming, can be a
 little overzealous IME. The same can be said of desktop anti-spam
 software. Your messages probably had to pass through three or more
 such filters. So many pieces of phishing spam claim to be from Paypal,
 that some false positives are almost inevitable, and I suspect that
 your message was falsely tagged as spam.

SMN This is very true - but if an anti-spam filter reject messages based
SMN on the fact that the word PayPal is present in subject is a stupid
SMN anti-spam-filter. I mean, apparently it's stupid to you and me... but
SMN it is also *professionally stupid* - one would think a professional
SMN company had a better system running than that?

SMN The only plausible reason why a filter would block such a message
SMN Jack is talking about is if one Redirect / Delegate a message that was
SMN originally sent from PayPal. If the text is fully intact AND the anti-
SMN spam system found it to be suspicious (looks like a phishing attempt)
SMN AND the IP the Redirected / Delegated message is now coming from is not
SMN in the IP-range PayPal is using to send mail, THEN one could expect a
SMN system to look at it with a suspicious mind and to consider it to be a
SMN possible phishing attempt. But blocking a message just because PayPal
SMN is present in Subject is just stupid.


Also it doesn't seem to be the case.  After I responded to Geoff's message I
sent myself a message with PayPal in the subject line and it went through just
fine.  Admittedly, the message body consisted simply of a salutation and sig.
It may be that a message with PayPal in the subject line AND a fair amount of
text in the body *might* trigger a block.  More experimentation necessary.

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Re: Subject line says (see body)

2013-01-23 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello MFPA,

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 you wrote:

M Hi


M On Wednesday 23 January 2013 at 6:53:07 PM, in
M mid:1101239910.20130123125...@charter.net, Jack S. LaRosa wrote:


 Hmmm, interesting (and probably correct).  After
 sending these several attempts I went directly to my
 email ISP's site and looked at my email directly and
 found no evidence that the ISP had ever handled the
 message.  I'm not sure what to make of that.


M ISPs and Webmail providers (except google) that I've used have usually
M not shown outgoing mail in their web interface that was not sent from 
M the web interface.

Yeah, I kinda figured it was something like that. Thanks M.

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Re: Subject line says (see body) SOLVED

2013-01-23 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Jack,

On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 you wrote:

JSL Greetings Oracle,

JSL I tried several times to send someone an email whose subject line read 
PayPal
JSL but none of the attempts were successful.  It wasn't until I changed the 
subject
JSL line to read PP that it finally went through.  Because of that I 
refrained
JSL from putting the word PayPal in the subject line of THIS email because I
JSL didn't want to chance that this email wouldn't get through.

JSL My method was to drag the original email from the SENT folder back to the 
OUTBOX
JSL folder and re-send it.  TB! always showed the CONNECTION CENTER box 
sending the
JSL email.  This method always failed but the message always re-appeared in 
the SENT
JSL mail folder every time I did this.  It wasn't until I changed the subject 
line
JSL from PayPal to PP that the recipient finally received it.

JSL I will refrain from making derogatory remarks about PayPay for fear of
JSL retribution but does anyone have any idea as to why this would occur?

AARRRGGGHHH! I was sending the aforementioned emails to my wife who, unbeknownst
to me, had a PayPal folder in her TB!, *AND* a filter which routed all emails 
with
that subject line to that PayPal folder, which was offscreen every time I looked
at it. All of the emails went through.

My sincerest apologies to the List and most heartfelt thanks to all who tried to
solve this non-problem.

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Re: associating The Bat with Google Chrome

2013-01-29 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Paul,

On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 you wrote:

PB Hello TBUDL@thebat.,

PB Tuesday, January 29, 2013, 7:01:48 PM, you wrote:

A When ever there is a web link embedded in an e-mail and I click on
A that link, Internet Explorer is used to open the web page. How do I go
A about changing this so that the default browser is Google Chrome
A (which loads wy faster!). I cannot find anything in the
A preferences window that would allow me to change this.

PB Something like this: In Internet Explorer - Tools at top right - Internet
PB options - Programs - Internet programs - Set program - Set your default
PB program

Wait a minute.  I thought TB!  always used whatever the operating system's
default browser was.  If so, while running Chrome click on the far right icon
(looks like three horizontal lines) to get the drop-down menu which contains the
SETTINGS sub-menu.  That first screen in that sub-menu has an option to make
Chrome the system's default browser.

Or, I am completely missing the point here.

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Re: Mail

2013-02-04 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Gunivortus,

On Monday, February 04, 2013 you wrote:

GG Hi Roelof,

GG What could cause this in TB?
GG I really don't know where to start searching the problem.

 POP3 or IMAP?

GG POP3 nver used IMAP.

 If POP3: Do you store the mail on the server for some time or do you
 delete them at once?

GG That is always configured to delete at once after downloading.
GG Those few mails however stay in the inbound at the server until the
GG test-client (Sylpheed) downloads them.

GG They're not spam by spamassassin, my address is correct, I don't
GG see anything strange in the kludges so I don't have a clue what
GG causes the problem.


Rest assured that I have absolutely no idea why your TB! is acting this way but
let me suggest that you re-configure TB! so that it leaves messages on the
server for a few days and see what happens.

Just something to try.

HTH,

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Auto-saved message?

2013-02-06 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Salutations Bat Folk,

My wife's POS HP laptop locked up again for no apparent reason and we had to do
a forced shutdown (holding the power button depressed until the computer turns
itself off).  I use the term locked up because we had no control of anything
except cursor movement.  Keypad and mouse buttons were non-responsive.
Un-fortunately she was several paragraphs into an email when this happened and
so lost the entire draft.

I remember seeing a message sometimes when I've abandoned an email during
creation to the effect of The Bat! has saved a copy of this message.  Do you
wish to delete the copy as well? I don't remember the exact wording but it's
something like that.

So, is it possible that TB! *DID* save what she had typed before the lockup and
if so, where might it be found and retrieved?

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Re: Auto-saved message?

2013-02-06 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Wednesday, February 06, 2013 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF Thursday, February 7, 2013, 4:50:53 AM, you wrote:

JSL I remember seeing a message sometimes when I've abandoned an email during
JSL creation to the effect of The Bat! has saved a copy of this message.  Do 
you
JSL wish to delete the copy as well? I don't remember the exact wording but 
it's
JSL something like that.

JSL So, is it possible that TB! *DID* save what she had typed before the 
lockup and
JSL if so, where might it be found and retrieved?

TF It would be in the Outbox, marked with an hourglass as a draft.
TF Retrieval would be by just double-clicking on it.

Leapin' lizards!  You're right of course.  I never thought of something so
obvious.  Thank you Thomas.  I appreciate your patience in replying. Alas,
rebooting the machine showed no new messages in the outbox. Sigh.

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Re: Auto-saved message?

2013-02-07 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Hello Thomas,

On Thursday, February 07, 2013 you wrote:

TF Hello Jack,

TF Thursday, February 7, 2013, 12:36:10 PM, you wrote:

TF It would be in the Outbox, marked with an hourglass as a draft.  Retrieval
TF would be by just double-clicking on it.

JSL Leapin' lizards!

TF I've never heard this expression, and was wondering whether lizards can
TF leap.  Probably not, but google has many links to companies with this name.
TF Blistering barnacles!, I'd say.

I'm a geezer so my memory probably goes back a little farther than yours.  If
you Google leapin' lizards comic you'll see that the expression originated in
the Little Orphan Annie comic strip.

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Font change in the middle of the stream

2013-02-08 Thread Jack S. LaRosa
Greetings Fellow Bats,

Can anyone tell me how to change fonts during the creation of a reply,
specifically?  If I copy something from a different email and paste it into the
reply I'm composing, and the paste is in a different font, can I change it?

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