Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-Python extension on Windows XP...

2007-04-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2007-04-11 at 13:01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The extension is not selectable in the installer, but if you click on it you'll get Requires Python 2.5 and PyGTK+ installed. This should be included in the installer, if possible. There should be a single GIMP installer that

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp or inkscape?

2007-04-06 Thread Owen Cook
On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 08:13:39PM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote: Hi, I have limited experience with Gimp, almost all of it with photographs, and essentially none with Inkscape. I want to make some simple maps of trails in the area, and mark them with mileages and a few comments. My plan

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp or inkscape?

2007-04-06 Thread Luc Novalès
Hi, Alex Feldman a écrit : Hi, I have limited experience with Gimp, almost all of it with photographs, and essentially none with Inkscape. I want to make some simple maps of trails in the area, and mark them with mileages and a few comments. My plan was to download the photographs of the

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp or inkscape?

2007-04-06 Thread Akkana Peck
Alex Feldman writes: I have limited experience with Gimp, almost all of it with photographs, and essentially none with Inkscape. I want to make some simple maps of trails in the area, and mark them with mileages and a few comments. My plan was to download the photographs of the area from

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp and subversion

2007-03-15 Thread Bernhard D Rohrer
Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi! But, why do you need a Gimp plugin for that? There are plenty of graphical frontends for Subversion in case you don't like the command line. I think what he meant was a way to view previous images or differences between various images by interfacing with

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp and subversion

2007-03-06 Thread Bruno Postle
On Mon 05-Mar-2007 at 10:59 +0100, Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Bernhard D Rohrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] has anybody ever thought about using Gimp with Subversion? I'd love a module that allows me to make sense of my edited versions of an image. Another, different approach could be to save

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp and subversion

2007-03-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Bernhard D Rohrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] has anybody ever thought about using Gimp with Subversion? I'd love a module that allows me to make sense of my edited versions of an image. I couldn't find a plugin though :( There has been a - rather abstract - suggestion of image versioning,

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp and subversion

2007-03-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi! On Monday 05 March 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: Bernhard D Rohrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: has anybody ever thought about using Gimp with Subversion? I'd love a module that allows me to make sense of my edited versions of an image. I couldn't find a plugin though :( Subversion or

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-web] FAQ Overhaul

2007-03-04 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 17:18 +, David Marrs wrote: The FAQ had a few cobwebs in it so I gave it a dust. It should feel more up-to-date now and actually relevant to version 2.2. Thanks for your help. But it would probably help if you could give a pointer, or even a link, to which FAQ

Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-web] FAQ Overhaul

2007-03-04 Thread David Marrs
Sven Neumann wrote: Thanks for your help. But it would probably help if you could give a pointer, or even a link, to which FAQ you are talking about. Sven oh yeah.. http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/UserFaq ___ Gimp-user mailing list

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp and subversion

2007-03-04 Thread Matthias Julius
Bernhard D Rohrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: has anybody ever thought about using Gimp with Subversion? I'd love a module that allows me to make sense of my edited versions of an image. I couldn't find a plugin though :( Subversion or most other revision control systems are optimized for

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-28 Thread Andy Coulson
It's the same in Ubuntu 6.10 (edgy) - Gutenprint is described as gimp-print version 5.0.0-2ubuntu2. Note that there is a seperate cupsys driver for it at the same version level Matthias Julius wrote: Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And still, when I select to print from

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 with Fink on OSX?

2007-02-28 Thread Axel Wernicke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anthony, gimp-app.sf.net is an excellent source to grep a prebuild an prepackaged version of the most recent stable version of GIMP. To get hands on an unstable version is a bit more complicated. I'm running one on OS X, build with an

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 with Fink on OSX?

2007-02-28 Thread Anthony Ettinger
Thanks, I switched to the darwin ports version and got 2.3.14 installed :) The fink version crashed when I tried to use the text toolplus it was an older version. Axel Wernicke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anthony, gimp-app.sf.net is an excellent source to

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3 with Fink on OSX?

2007-02-28 Thread Anthony Ettinger
One thing I can't seem to do is create an alias on the Dock in OSX that will open gimp-2.3 Axel Wernicke wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Anthony, gimp-app.sf.net is an excellent source to grep a prebuild an prepackaged version of the most recent stable version of

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer? [SOLVED]

2007-02-27 Thread Dave M G
Matthias, Thank you for responding. In another thread, I was trying to be helpful to another user who was asking questions about GIMP-shop. I learned in that thread that GIMP-Shop is more than merely a skin or wrapper, but a different branch of development. So it occurred to me that maybe

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on Gnome and SMB shares

2007-02-26 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Monday 26 February 2007 07:06, Gregor Reich wrote: Hi all I've got a problem using gimp 2.2.11 on Ubuntu 6.06 (Gnome 2.14.3): when I try to open a file, (File Open), I don't have access to my SMB shares (they are not listed in the box on the left hand side of the file opener as they are

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 12:18 +0900, Dave M G wrote: And as I mentioned, I had already installed Gutenprint from within the Ubuntu repositories. You installed the Gutenprint printer drivers, but not the GIMP plug-in that uses them. But just to be sure, I went to the Gutenprint project

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on Gnome and SMB shares

2007-02-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, GIMP 2.3 has support for accessing files on SBM shares over gnome-vfs. It's somewhat hackish as it uses temporary files in order to avoid having to rewrite all file plug-ins. But in general, it works just fine. As soon as the long-awaited new file system abstraction layer makes its way into

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Matthias Julius
Dave M G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And still, when I select to print from within GIMP, it and click the button that says About, it says I'm using GIMP-Print 4.2. So, as far as I can tell, I've done everything to install Gutenprint on my system, but GIMP isn't giving me any indication that

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Toby Haynes
Dave M G wrote: So my question remains: How do I get GIMP to use the Gutenprint plug in that I have installed? (Actually, my real question is, Why does GIMP, and only GIMP, need to use an entirely different set of printer drivers all it's own when every other application seems to be

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-26 Thread Dave M G
Toby, Sven, Matthias, Thank you all for responding. Toby Haynes wrote: Open System-Synaptic and search Names and Descriptions for Gutenprint. You should see, amongst the other entries, gimp-print-5.0.0-2ubuntu2 or similar. That is what you need to install. What I have installed is:

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-25 Thread Dave M G
Sven, Thank you for responding. It uses whatever print plug-in you installed. If you want to use the gutenprint plug-in, then get the GIMP plug-in from the gutenprint project. I think I already mentioned that. And as I mentioned, I had already installed Gutenprint from within the Ubuntu

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-24 Thread Doug
Dave M G wrote: Akkana, Thanks for responding. ut the experts who would know for sure aren't here; they're on the gimp-print/gutenprint devel list. No one on the GIMP mailing list knows how to make GIMP connect to the right printer driver? In the past I've moved my Gimp

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 10:56 +0900, Dave M G wrote: It says I'm using Gimp-Print version 4.2. However, when I check Gimp-Print with apt-get/Synaptic, it says I have version 5.0.0-2ubuntu2. In the description of the package, it says This is Gutenprint version 5.0.0, a stable release in

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Jim Lynch
I also have had a problem printing from Gimp. I attempted to print an image and for my efforts I received a floor full of paper, some completely blank, others with a line of garbage at the top of the page. I printed the same image by displaying it in firefox and used its print feature. I never

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Jim Lynch
I'll have to try again. Since then I've changed from SuSE to Centos for other reasons. Jim. On 2/23/07, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, it would help a lot of you would tell us what Print plug-in you are using. If things don't work, the reason might be that you are using the old

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Dave M G
Sven, Thanks for responding. it would help a lot of you would tell us what Print plug-in you are using. It says I'm using Gimp-Print version 4.2. However, when I check Gimp-Print with apt-get/Synaptic, it says I have version 5.0.0-2ubuntu2. In the description of the package, it says This

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Akkana Peck
Dave M G writes: (On a side note, when I scan my installed packages, I don't even see Gimp-Print 4.2. It seems like I *only* have Gutenprint 5.0 installed. So why is GIMP saying, in the About button in the print interface) that I'm using 4.2? It might be that your GIMP is including an old

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP won't support installed printer?

2007-02-23 Thread Dave M G
Akkana, Thanks for responding. ut the experts who would know for sure aren't here; they're on the gimp-print/gutenprint devel list. No one on the GIMP mailing list knows how to make GIMP connect to the right printer driver? Just to be clear here, my printer is working (with CUPS, anyway),

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP throwing away TIFF tags

2007-02-13 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-02-12 at 12:52 +0200, Paul Surgeon wrote: I have to touch up hundreds of aerial photos and it's a PITA to have to save and then reapply the projection every time I save an image in GIMP. We would accept a patch that changes the TIFF plug-in so that geographic tags are

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP throwing away TIFF tags

2007-02-13 Thread Claus Cyrny
scott s. wrote: Paul Surgeon wrote: Ok so let's throw the tags away. Is there anyway to get GIMP to use libgeotiff instead of libtiff? libgeotiff is built on top of libtiff. I have to touch up hundreds of aerial photos and it's a PITA to have to save and then reapply the projection

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP throwing away TIFF tags

2007-02-12 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Paul Surgeon wrote: Is there some way to tell GIMP to preserve TIFF tags even if they're not known? If not can I file this as a bug? Tags shouldn't just be thrown away. Paul Hi Paul, To complement Sven's reply, I would just add that the TIFF specification, section 7, page 26, recommends

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP throwing away TIFF tags

2007-02-12 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Monday 12 February 2007 10:36, Olivier Ripoll wrote: To complement Sven's reply, I would just add that the TIFF specification, section 7, page 26, recommends that TIFF editors (applications that modify TIFF files) discards tags/fields/IFD they do not understand. To be more precise, the

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP throwing away TIFF tags

2007-02-12 Thread scott s.
Paul Surgeon wrote: Ok so let's throw the tags away. Is there anyway to get GIMP to use libgeotiff instead of libtiff? libgeotiff is built on top of libtiff. I have to touch up hundreds of aerial photos and it's a PITA to have to save and then reapply the projection every time I save an

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP throwing away TIFF tags

2007-02-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 20:47 +0200, Paul Surgeon wrote: Is there some way to tell GIMP to preserve TIFF tags even if they're not known? If not can I file this as a bug? Tags shouldn't just be thrown away. Who says so? Can you point me to the part of the TIFF spec that defines how

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and Printing

2007-02-03 Thread Doug
Mega Sunny wrote: I can't print any picture with Gimp 2.2.13 (Gimp-Print Version 4.2). My Distri is openSuse 10.2 and the normal installation of my Printer (Epson Stylus Photo RX500) with yast works fine. Other programms can print, only gimp don't work. Where is the problem? I also bought

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 52, Issue 14

2007-01-10 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi Jose, could you please stop posting the digest to the list. You also did that last week. And no, it's not funny. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 52, Issue 13

2007-01-09 Thread Jose Rodriguez
J Rodz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:00:03 To:gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Gimp-user Digest, Vol 52, Issue 13 Send Gimp-user mailing list submissions to gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU To subscribe or unsubscribe via the

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 51, Issue 43

2007-01-02 Thread George Farris
On Fri, 2006-22-12 at 21:11 -0800, I really do think we need to find a better, less offensive name for GIMP, and the sooner the better, so that we can put energy into supporting it, and doing whatever we can to extend it's use instead of periodically having this disagreement. Yes *points

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-Python GUI...

2006-12-23 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2006-12-22 at 16:33 -0500, jbaker wrote: I'm wanting to do a script that requires a more complicated GUI than what the standard way of doing a script provides... Basically I want to be able to layout some of the widgets horizontally instead of stacked vertically... What

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-23 Thread Matthew Ridge
On 12/22/06, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As earlier threads have already pointed out, most non-American English speakers don't know this use of the word; and in a comprehensive dictionary like the Oxford English dictionary, it's noted as a specifically North American usage. FWIW most speakers

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dont worry. be happy. just press the delete button. Robert Smits wrote: On Thursday 21 December 2006 17:39, lists wrote: Brendan wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-22 Thread David Marrs
Trapper wrote: Most English speakers generally relate gimp to the slang variant, most of us are familiar with it and most of us consider it to be something negative. Can I just change that to most American English speakers? I learnt the meaning of the slang word gimp while reading a

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-22 Thread Doug
Trapper wrote: snip 1. Gimp means to walk with a limp in English and is slang. ... Most English speakers generally relate gimp to the slang variant, most of us are familiar with it and most of us consider it to be something negative. snip It would be very nice if people looked

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop (Zombie Thread)

2006-12-22 Thread Doug
jim wrote: Eric P wrote: I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show up on a regular basis on the list). Were any new, constructive insights brought up? Anyone care to summarize this thread on this exhausting topic? Summary to date: Noobs keep

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-Python GUI...

2006-12-22 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Friday 22 December 2006 19:33, jbaker wrote: I'm wanting to do a script that requires a more complicated GUI than what the standard way of doing a script provides... Basically I want to be able to layout some of the widgets horizontally instead of stacked vertically... What would be the

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-22 Thread Brendan
On Thursday 21 December 2006 23:51, Robert Smits wrote: Oh wait, Geoffrey says Get over it. Everybody with an opinion or actual relevent facts, forget it. Geoffrey said so. If you'll check the bloody archives, you'll see this same subject has been discussed ad nauseam more then once.

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop (Zombie Thread)

2006-12-22 Thread Brendan
On Friday 22 December 2006 02:44, jim wrote: Eric P wrote: I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show up on a regular basis on the list). Were any new, constructive insights brought up? Anyone care to summarize this thread on this exhausting topic?

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-22 Thread Brendan
On Thursday 21 December 2006 21:06, Tom Williams wrote: Brendan wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-22 Thread operator
/rotflmao :-) lol/ Brendan wrote: On Thursday 21 December 2006 21:06, Tom Williams wrote: Brendan wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-22 Thread Manish Singh
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 12:25:35AM -0600, Eric P wrote: I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show up on a regular basis on the list). Were any new, constructive insights brought up? Anyone care to summarize this thread on this exhausting topic? Other

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop (Zombie Thread)

2006-12-22 Thread jim
Brendan wrote: On Friday 22 December 2006 02:44, jim wrote: Eric P wrote: I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show up on a regular basis on the list). Were any new, constructive insights brought up? Anyone care to summarize this thread on this exhausting

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop (Zombie Thread)

2006-12-22 Thread jim
I should also mention that this sort of thing comes up on the freebsd lists periodically. If you'd only change the mascot and drop the whole daemon thing, my church/tiny business would decide to use your operating system. Maybe something cute like a penguin or a kitty waving it's paw? (the

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
Looking into different English-Russian dictionaries (the most comprehensive ones) I can see the meaning of the word gimp, being discussed here, as the 3-rd or 6-th in the order of usage frequency. Others are (synonyms) 1. galloon, braid 2. spirit, vim 3. may be limp, may be neckerchief 4.

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Luca de Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - support for color profiles (.icc profiles - how are you going to profile a printer otherwise?) One thing I never understood is: Why do applications have to deal with color profiles? Color profiles are hardware device specific and at least in the

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Brendan
On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Brendan
Speaking about Gimpression, it could be taken as a copy of the MS Expression at the time being. I think it is a great name, but people tend to exaggerate when it comes to stealing. What? No. Gimpression would NOT be confused with that. I think it's a great name.

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread lists
Brendan wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Williams
Brendan wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-21-06 21:10]: For example, Sarasota County Area Transit is a name of a transit agency and its acronym is rather interesting. :) Ella would agree, rest her sole. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Robert Smits
On Thursday 21 December 2006 17:39, lists wrote: Brendan wrote: On Monday 18 December 2006 19:52, lists wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-21 Thread Eric P
I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show up on a regular basis on the list). Were any new, constructive insights brought up? Anyone care to summarize this thread on this exhausting topic? EP ___ Gimp-user mailing

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp doesn't respond to mouse in image area, at all

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/20/06, Gerry JJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Some time ago, the Gimp stopped responding to my mouse in the image window. In other windows and on menus the mouse works fine (ie I can select brushes and such and use the interface without problems), but in the image window (or more

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp doesn't respond to mouse in image area, at all

2006-12-20 Thread Gerry JJ
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 19:48:06 +0100, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious, have you tried using different tools and get the same result? Yes. I've tried all the tools, none of them works using the mouse. The image area just doesn't register anything at all. I can't

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-20 Thread Luca de Alfaro
For a class, I don't know, but for serious photo work, Photoshop is incredibly more advanced. Some exampes: Color: - support for more than 8 bits/color/pixel (my scanners have 16) - support for color profiles (.icc profiles - how are you going to profile a printer otherwise?) - support for color

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-20 Thread Luca de Alfaro
I, for one, don't believe that open source projects should necessarily avoid slang words. Gimp is a relatively obscure slang word. Let me define this: most English speakers speak English as a second language, and i bet 99% of them are not familiar with the unofficial uses of the word Gimp. From

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-19 Thread Jozef Legeny
On 12/19/06, Toby Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger wrote: Anyway, instead of flaming, how about some suggestions: Gimpressive Gimpression Out of all the many suggested (re)names, these two are the only two I've ever seen and liked. Maybe because many GNU and GNOME

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-19 Thread Anthony Ettinger
I tried both, but since I'm using GIMP all the time i foundthe photoshop interface mostly chaotic. But I'm sure it must be the same for people who pass from PS to GIMP. Most people are complaining about the amount of windows the GIMP opens, but then virtual desktops handle this problem with

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/17/06, Tom Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Gowers wrote: On 12/18/06, *Leon Brooks* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf,

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread A. den Oudsten
Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: I have been teaching Gimp to first-year university students for more than six years, to one or two hundreds students every year. I have never encountered any specific criticism among them about Gimp's GUI. More, I

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread David Gowers
On 12/18/06, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring out The Gimp How many people do you really think have seen that movie? For example, English is my native language, and I've never heard this movie reference until it was brought up repeatedly on this mailing list -- this is the

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/18/06, David Gowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/18/06, Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bring out The Gimp How many people do you really think have seen that movie? For example, English is my native language, and I've never heard this movie reference until it was

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/18/06, Frank McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:01:59 -0800 Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you sell that to a corporation? How do you market that? The people in business suits are going to

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Frank McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-18-06 21:22]: drives me crazy. well, you said he used windoz! -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album:

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread Chris Mohler
FWIW, I'm truly sorry for posting *anything* related to this thread, and especially for the nasty tone. I should know better. Chris ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Ok, that was too much. I wanted to send you a mail last time already, but I assumed that you did this accidentally. Obviously you didn't. So please, when posting to this list, try not to use HTML mail. And if you absolutely can't turn HTML mail off in your mail client, then at least don't fiddle

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Olivier Lecarme
Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: I have been teaching Gimp to first-year university students for more than six years, to one or two hundreds students every year. I have never encountered any specific criticism among them about Gimp's GUI. More, I cannot understand what seems

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread norman
On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is that one of my duties as a university teacher is to

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/17/06, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own strong opinion is

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Bill Lee
Anthony Ettinger wrote: On 12/17/06, norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 14:23 +0100, Olivier Lecarme wrote: Here is my own modest grain of salt in the discussion: snip Somebody in this list said that teachers have the duty to teach what is an industry standard. My own

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Carter castor
This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. How do you sell that to a

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread John Meyer
Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word for a disabled person. How do

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Carter castor
That 4% needs to be weighed against the proportion of people who use image manipulation programs. A much higher percentage of United States residents edit digital photographs than Nigerian citizens, for example. Personally, I would name it after a famous painting or painter so that people would

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/17/06, Carter castor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang word

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Leon Brooks
John Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carter castor wrote: This goes right to the heart of my biggest complaint about GIMP though: its name. I don't understand why the developers would put so much time and hard work into creating a program as professional as GIMP and then name it after a slang

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Leon Brooks
Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/17/06, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I still don't see it

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread David Gowers
On 12/18/06, Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that isn't how people acquire Gimp. Today. What about in 3 years' time? I like the proposed

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-17 Thread Tom Williams
David Gowers wrote: On 12/18/06, *Leon Brooks* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anthony Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may have a point given 2 software boxes on a shelf, Photoshop is more descriptive than Gimp - But that

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-user Digest, Vol 51, Issue 25

2006-12-16 Thread Katie
Im using Windows XP Media Edition. By not working I mean it doesn't show up. The one I was asking about I got to work someone from another Gimp mailing list helped me. But thanks for trying. Katie wrote: I have a font called evanescent (it is a true type font and it is text) that won't work

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-16 Thread Andrew Swinn
John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-16 Thread Anthony Ettinger
On 12/16/06, Andrew Swinn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

2006-12-16 Thread David Marrs
John R. Culleton wrote: ON another list someone was complaining about the expense nad bother of upgrading to the latest Photoshop, including licenses etc. I suggested Gimp as a no cost/no fuss alternative for students. I received a long reply, much of which I am not technically competent to

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp problem

2006-11-22 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe: i have installed gimp 2.2.13 on windows xp and when i start program i have the messages that my installation is incomplete. the opening of file program files\gimp\gimp-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\menus\toolbox-menu.xml as failed and idem for ...\menus\image-menu.xml. why ?

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2 book, your opinion is...?

2006-11-15 Thread ajtiM
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 00:40, Leon Brooks wrote: Has anyone read /GIMP 2 for Photographers/ yet? There's a review up at: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5105451578.html I'd value your opinion, if you've formed one. Particularly if you're a photographer of any sort.

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-app on the mac does not want to work with my X11

2006-11-04 Thread Julien Pons
Chris Mohler a écrit : Are you *sure* you're running X11? IIRC, It was on the developer tools CD in Jaguar. It's also a free download from the Apple Dev site. On my machine, it's under ApplicationsUtilitiesX11, and has to be running before I launch any X apps. Chris Strange behavior, my

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-app on the mac does not want to work with my X11

2006-11-04 Thread Axel Wernicke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 04.11.2006 um 10:46 schrieb Julien Pons: Chris Mohler a écrit : Are you *sure* you're running X11? IIRC, It was on the developer tools CD in Jaguar. It's also a free download from the Apple Dev site. On my machine, it's under

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-app on the mac does not want to work with my X11

2006-11-04 Thread Chris Mohler
Strange behavior, my gimp.app automatically launch X11 :) Can't remember how i set up this ! OK - I've never tried GIMP on OSX, but I have had trouble calling X11 apps w/o running X11 in the past. Still, it may not be installed - I don't think it was installed by default in 10.3... Roger -

Re: [Gimp-user] gimp-app on the mac does not want to work with my X11

2006-11-04 Thread Chris Mohler
Hi, Chris, er, Dog, er, Dude, er... Can you say huh? I'm afraid that's about where I am at the moment (and no, I'm not trying to be abnormally flippant; I'm just really, really confused here). I think you got the e-mail I sent from my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address (at least, this MIGHT be a

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