circuits
sensitive to this sort of thing. We mostly use American Technical Ceramics (ATC)
capacitors (or other premium manufacturers) in these applications. Don't forget that
these are some of the best high-speed decoupling caps on the planet.
Frank Gilley
Dell-Star Technologies
(918) 838-
Amen brother.
Frank
At 08:49 PM 11/20/2003 +1100, Ian Wilson wrote:
>When has anyone been as rude to you as you are to others? Is it a special skill you
>have or something you practice hard at.
>
>Why don't you make your point without the slander and bigotry?
>
>Ian Wi
how
this could be unethical.
Another company, AWR's Microwave Office also supports this. In fact, since their
software is locked to the MAC address of your NIC, they will actually issue you a free
second "home licence" as they call it for your non-concurrent use on your home
ng PCB design, the drawing order is fixed, eg. The track of
>TopOverlay layer will cover the objects on the Bottom layer. Now, for
>some reason, I want to change this order and want the track of bottom
>layer can cover objects of all other layers. How can I change the screen
>drawing o
rent surges & ripple current above 15 amps.
_
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have any words of wisdom to make this switch a little easier?
Are there any issues with loading DXP onto the same machine with 99SE?
Tim Fifield
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Frank,
I did that and then the box opens and tells me it is disabled. I never tried
to use it before nevermind disable it.
Thanks for the assist anyway.
Joe
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it by manually measuring the
> > > component coordinates and placing them in the worksheet.
> > >
> > > Is there any scanning/semiautomatic/any other shortcut
> > > methods available for board duplication.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for you
t
>does our "normal" boards has an online do-it-yourself
>quote that I can get in a matter of minutes by simply
>plugging in the board parameters.
>
>Can you folks please recommend to me two or three places
>besides Advanced Circuits where I can get a real fast
>quote, p
AM 9/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Yuck. Why don't you just run protel at home? If you (or anyone at work)
>isn't using it at work at the same time as you're using it at home, I
>think it's perfectly legal.
>
>
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Big Brother and eliminating our civil rights.
What?!
Now, I'm no fan of Mr. Bill, but I read that EULA and there is no such
passage in mine...right?
Please explain how you arrived at this conclusion.
Thanks,
Frank Gilley
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gt;I need to put a polygon plane on the bottom layer.
>
>1. I'd like to set up the clearance of the plane different from the
>regular trace of the board, which is 12mil instead of 7 mil for regular
>trace connection.
>
>2. I also like to set up the polygon connects to fan out v
. About when do you expect to have M$ phased out of
your company? ;)
I am a very big Linux fan, although I don't mess with it much anymore. I
can't wait until someday comes and I can use Linux for everything and M$
for just a couple of legacy apps.
Frank Gilley
Dell-Star Technol
At 11:58 AM 8/15/2002 -0400, Ivan Baggett wrote:
>I have been trying to use Mozilla for e-mail also, but it seems to have a
>bug that crashes when trying to import large message folders from OE. So I
>am stuck with OE for now.
Ever thought about using Eudora for your email?
Frank Gi
lock and date are
>reading correctly. I use Atomic Clock Sync v2.2. Perhaps my mail server or
>something else is screwed up. I'm no computer wiz and don't have control
>over any other computers other than mine. Sorry...
>
>Tim
>
>-Original Message-
>F
Tim,
Thought I might let you know most kindly... It appears your computer's time
zone is also off. It is reporting -03:00 GMT.
Thanks,
Frank
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noise coupled into the analog
>- flashovers between high voltage paths
>- getting EMC complance can be a nightmare.
>
>true the outer can do the 'digital spaghetti' in less time then a human
>can , but then typically you need a number of respins to get the result
>yo
> > We can bag DXP - that is really easy. Can we do the harder
> > > stuff of being
> > > > constructive?
> > > >
> > > > All that said, I am ready to call something rubbish when I think it
>is.
> > > >
&
$ gets their
>way, and the other lobbyist's money was wasted, like flushing it down a
>giant toilet...
>
>Best regards,
>Ivan Baggett
>Bagotronix Inc.
>website: www.bagotronix.com
>
>
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re products.
Protel Management: Demonstrate that 1+1 in your world does equal 2. Issue
service pack 7 for 99SE. It would go along way toward restoring confidence.
Rant Dissipated
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ng since. There has never been any problem whatsoever with
>this feature. It is a local drive, though, where the graphic is located,
>not a network drive. WIN2K and P99SE SP6 (like most of you).
>
>Gisbert Auge
>N.A.T. GmbH
>www.nateurope.com
Frank Gilley
Dell-Star Technologies
(9
for a piece of data/instruction
I'm just curious. How did you arrive at these figures for L2 cache
hits/misses?
Wouldn't you expect this ratio to be quite optimistic from the cache point
of view?
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rice that Protel USED to be.
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Anyone know what this is down below here?
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> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:14 AM
from NT4 to W2K. but also i
>wasn't coming close to performing all the operations that
>nick mentions. like i said, i was just changing the part
>and then plunking my thumb down on the "update schematic"
>button.
>
>thanks again! miker
>
Frank Gilley
Dell-S
rp with this?
>
>Thanks to those who responded to my "round board" questions.
>
>Best regards,
>Ivan Baggett
>Bagotronix Inc.
>website: www.bagotronix.com
>
>
Frank Gilley
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a relatively low frequency, 100 Mhz.
Solved his pesky power output problem.
Frank
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The translator imports the following PADS PCB ASCII file formats:
PowerPCB V1, V1.1, V1.5, V2, V3.0, V3.5
PADS Perform
PADS 2000 V3, V4
PADS PCB V5
Thanks for the information about the .dsn file, I was able to successfully
translate that!
Thanks again,
Frank
Frank Gilley
Del
icate formatting errors (?)
This sort of thing:
Load Errors : 248
Expected number in line: 4 at position 0 and found this: **CRLF**
Anyone use this feature and know how to get it to work?
And what are these other two files besides the .asc file... a .dsn and .opj
Thanks,
Frank
Frank Gilley
U's also.
>
>Brian
>Posted from Association web site by: Brian
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>What is the voltage standoff (front to back) for .062" FR4?
>
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>Ah - an update. Copy & paste failed, but cut & paste worked. I've now got
>a small PCB that shows the behaviour. Any takers for a .pcb and .GBL?
>
>Steve
I'd be very interested in taking a look at this if you don't mind sending
'em to me.
I use shunt
at is. I don't own that program. Is there any other example
you can cite?
Feel free to contact me off-list if you feel its more appropriate.
Frank
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it of an
>exaggeration? How did you determine this? Subjectively?
>Perhaps if your memory size is big enough, windows doesn't swap out all
>the time, causing the effect I have noted above?
>
>Frank
Frank Gilley
just upgraded my Win2K system from 512MB to 2GB. When first
>running
> > Protel,
> > > the performance was typically the same as before. The huge diference is
> > after
> > > working 2 hours on a design, going thru .PDF chip data sheets, using
d material or other standard size or sizes to make up what you need; to
>save money, I'd have the inner boards have no copper at all, they would
>just be routed board blanks, drilled where necessary for skewers, and I
>would glue the stack together. If the inner boards have copper pads,
-0500, you wrote:
>I could have said this more strongly:
>
>At 03:30 PM 12/13/01 -0600, Frank Gilley wrote:
>>Do you know for a fact that upgrading from 98 to 99SE will get you the
>>next release free due to ATS membership? Or is this speculation?
>
>ATS explicitly includes
d.
Do you know for a fact that upgrading from 98 to 99SE will get you the next
release free due to ATS membership? Or is this speculation?
Other 99SE members (us) are supposedly grandfathered ATS members, and you
can bet they will charge us for the next release.
Frank
Frank Gilley
Dell-Star Te
/2001 -0500, Abdulrahman Lomax wrote:
>At 09:37 AM 12/13/01 -0600, Frank Gilley wrote:
>
>>Now, I would like to point out that all of us who post regularly to this
>>list are "public figures" now, and might receive preferential treatment
>>simply to keep stuff
nto the
> system. Marcella Marshall called me back within 5 minutes after I call
> with all the info I needed to do the download.
>Cheers
>Mark
That's a Sales Rep. I have never had any trouble getting in touch with
them whatsoever. Not the same as Tech Support.
Frank
Frank Gille
d us we
>wouldn't get support due to our edu. discount as some other vendors do)
>I can't believe they are claiming support costs are killing them.
>
>Any comments on the level of support others have gotten?
>
>Jon
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ideal node.
>
>what i want to is if i am going to have to go thru the schematic and change
>all the power ports to a plain ole net to run it as a trace.
>
>thanks, miker
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ervice
packs, not only am I going to be very angry, but we WILL find something
else eventually. This will be way down the road though... except for the
autorouter, 99se pretty much fills our needs for the forseeable future.
Frank
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;T -> B
>2 -> 3
>2 -> B
>4 -> B
Yes, you cannot connect layers 1 & 2 (as you have them notated) or layers 3
& 4 without a through-hole via appearing on either layer B or layer T. Or
both B and T (cheapest)
I think you've got it, heh heh
Frank Gilley
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atures to
85C. However, we do not extensively temp-cycle, and we were not using
military standards.
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design that is currently at prototype stage.
>
>Is there a popular/standard footprint that we could use that would let us
>choose LEDs from a variety of manufacturers? Either in the Protel
>libraries or just as a name/description would be helpful.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Len
, the part is SDS-50J from CUI Stack. www.cuistack.com
>
>
>Tim Fifield
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me unplated tabs but one might hide the unplated tabs
behind mounting holes)
Edge effect with regard to radiated noise is a controversial subject, but
actually plating the board edge I have never before seen suggested.
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Frank G
ly maintenance as I can't see how it encourages good,
>responsive-to-the-market software. But I would probably go along with it
>if it reflected roughly the current upgrade cost.
>
>Ian Wilson
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ders wish to know about this stuff?
>
>I would prefer you kept it to your self.
>
>My opinion of course,
>Ian Wilson
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>Daniel Webster
>PCB Designer
>Northern Airborne Technology
>Kelowna, BC, Canada
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our goals.
I totally agree with Ian that this is exactly the sort of thing that needs
to be pulled apart out in the open.
-Frank
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at it might have some multi-layer primitives that show even when that
>layer it turned off.
>
>Seems to be behaving as expected to me...
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ttons in the Layer Drawing Order dialog, I
>can understand how an oversight (being polite) might make the Default
>button only fill the list with the old layers in a hard coded order (as
>this section of code was not updated when the new layers were added). I
>would be surprised i
all that top copper, and
>not design the board from the opposite side.
>
> >
> > Its not a problem as such but surely it shouldn't behave like this?
>
>It is quite conceivable that noone ever tried this!
>
>Jon
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Surely I'm not the only one annoyed by this (often) and I just wanted to
make sure that a note had been made of it... forgive me for repeating if
this has been covered a dozen times before.
When using drag 'n drop to copy (holding down ctrl) a folder containing
files to another folder within t
ce 75+ mil warping on a 4" X 5" board using such supposedly
compatible laminates as Rogers 4003 and FR4 on either side of a 4 layer
board. Luckily in our application, minor warping usually isn't a problem.
Frank
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lnick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 9:39 AM
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Spam trawlers in this group
> >
> >
> > I've been hit with spam, but I traced it to Yahoo Groups &
> > File Planet
but lately I have been getting spammed from
> > what would appear
> > to be email addy trawlers in this group.
> > Anyone else getting spam from .au's? after posting here?
> > This is not the usenet, surely we don't have to have addy
> > trawlers in our
&
m sold our addresses... (surely NOT!)
-Frank
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> > -Original Message-
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> >
s)
A single keep out for all layers is just not practical on today's boards,
and wasn't that good of an idea yesterday even.
Please, someone make a note that we need this major and obvious limitation
removed...Mr Protel.
Frank
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n
> normal brightness
> > while making all the other layers half, or quarter brightness. This is
> basically an
> > improvement, or sort of like a middle ground between using transparency
> & not using
> > transparency.
> >
> > If anyone has some addit
ARY AT ALL.
Luckily, I learned my lesson on this the first time it happened, and I keep
a second copy of backups that I only backup every few days or about once a
week or so. That way, I have that many days to find any corruption.
I hope this sends a chill up the spine of more than a few of y
tics.that I am using the windows file system.
>
>1. What is the advantage of data base format over windows file system (I'm
>sorry I know you have discussed this in the past when I did not have 99SE)?
>I like the windows file system because I can look at the file folder and see
uce
EMI. With knowledge of the above concepts, "No" would be
the short answer, assuming lots of things. Not generally, that's
for sure. Same answer for the 20H "rule".
-Frank
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;resin contents. If significantly mismatched X/Y CTEs were mixed in a
>stackup, it would contribute negatively to the board bow and twist.
Yes it would. Sorry, I should have known you guys knew what that meant :)
Misunderstandings all round today, I guess.
Frank
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lly
all of us, all the time. This point has been raised before in a very
diplomatic manner by a certain individual we all know well here- I think
this individuals' concern was what happens to the flow of ideas when one
poster asserts dominance in a user group.
My point was that unlike
send me
>> > the stack up configuration that they propose to use. I then
>> > check their
>> > stack up with the tables (4.2 to 4.6) just to insure a good stack up.
>> > Cheers
>> > Mark
>> >
>
>Mark Witherite
>Assistant Research Engine
permissible for users such as myself
>to provide assistance on this server.
>
>Regards,
>Geoff Harland.
>-
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>there some way to get archived versions of this forum?
>
>Gary
>
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dom duplicate icons almost every day
>
>Dennis Saputelli
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> > another type of icon.
> >
> > For example, after bringing up a net list in wordpad, several of my
> > .doc icons suddenly started displaying my email client icon.
> >
> > So far it seems to be a random e
ere there's no prompt.
DOH!
:)
Thank you Dwight for that very enlightening explanation. Yes, I think the
FAQ could use this sort of if-this-then-that-happens behavior
documentation. I apologize to Mr. Lomax for my earlier (incorrect)
proclamation.
Frank
oduce this? I was just wondering if it was
specific to my installation or if it's a global bug.
-Frank
At 09:29 PM 4/5/2001 -0700, Abdulrahman Lomax wrote:
>At 10:51 AM 4/5/01 -0500, Frank Gilley wrote:
>
>>I'm happily editing along in my SCH when I suddenly feel the urge to
..? Hmmm.
To resolve the problem, you must delete the newly created blank PCB.
Service pack 6, btw.
Thanks,
Frank
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>name and the PCB pad designator.
>The only way I can get it to work is to change A and K to 1 and 2 on the PCB
>library part.
>
>I would prefer to use the more descriptive names (A , K , AC1 , AC2 etc.)
>Is there a way to make this work or does the default Protel PCB library ha
ayer with
>a drill, then it is no longer a pad on the bottom layer since HOW can a
>hole be on the BOTTOM layer?)
>
>Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
>
>
>David W. Gulley
>Destiny Designs
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ion
>without having to have Protel loaded on their computers.
>
>thanks,
>RM
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All,
In case you missed it, this is a quote from The Fonz... on a particular
episode of Happy Days :)
At 01:50 PM 2/20/2001 -0500, Andrew J. Jenkins wrote:
I am actually wr.. I'm
wro..., I'm wrrronn...oh sheesh, forget it, you know what I'm
trying to say...
Mostly, I just wante
>* the Association web site. You will need to give the same
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>* give an alias unless it was used to subscribe).
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improvements of Win2000 - no more limited system
>resource problems.
Can anyone confirm this? I hadn't heard this about NT5 (Win2K) If this is
true, I'm gonna upgrade tomorrow. Protel and I and a couple of other apps
go round and round with resources.
Thanks,
Frank
Frank Gill
you have any further questions please email us.
>Thank you,
>Protel Support Team
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