Re: [LegacyUG] SW Template for databases on FamilySearc

[R G Strong-genes]

I use the credit line to cite the film number like this for the birth and 
christening records, birth register template created at county level online 
database:

citing St. Joseph County Marriage record, v3 p241 rn 82, FHL microfilm 2342469: 
Michigan Department of Vital Records, Lansing, Michigan.

My source list name is Michigan - Michigan Marriages 1868-1925, images

From: John S. Adams 
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 3:23 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SW Template for databases on FamilySearc

As a general practice, I use the FamilySearch collection as the Master Source, 
with the county, volume, page, etc. recorded in the Source Detail, although I'm 
not particularly consistent.



For that particular database, I have used the template for Marriage Registers, 
County level and the medium as "Online Images."  I think my reasoning was that, 
while the images were probably digitized versions of the FHL film, I viewed the 
online image and not the microfilm. For completeness, you could put the FHL 
film no. in the Detail Comments or Text.



John S. Adams 
Ventura, CA






From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Jenny M Benson 
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 9:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] SW Template for databases on FamilySearc 

I have found a marriage record for one of my relatives on the 
FamilySearch website.  FamilySearch gives the following as the citation:

"New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 1908-1936," database with 
images, FamilySearch 
(https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-9880-44672-9?cc=1618491 : 24 
January 2016), Oneida > Marriage records, 1920-1922, vol 6 > image 352 
of 514; citing county clerk offices from various counties, New York.

Using SourceWriter in Legacy, I could use the generic template "Online 
database with images", giving "New York, County Marriages, 1847-1848; 
1908-1936," as the Database Title and FamilySearch as the website, or 
the more specific template for Marriage Registers created at County 
level.  In the latter case would it be correct to select 
"Microfilm/fiche (Filmed by Family History Library)" as the medium, or 
should it just be "Online images"?

This question is relevant to all databases (with or without images) 
accessed on FamilySearch.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of credit line field in database sources

[R G Strong-genes]

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Hayes

Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 11:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Use of credit line field in database sources

On 17 Nov 2016 at 11:38, Cathy Pinner wrote:


Steve,
There are specific templates for the GRO indexes but they're hidden in
eg: Birth Records - Certificate - England - Birth certificate Index -
online database.


Aye, but even if I did find it, FreeBMD has Births AND Marriages AND Deaths


The credit line is for where your source got the information - eg your
source may be an online database of transcriptions of parish registers.
The credit line would say which parish register and who holds it. In
Ancestry terminology: Original data.


That's all very well, but why is there then no field for the information
itself?


The GRO index stuff is messy thought about in that way.

I still use a Basic Source for the GRO index. I'm wondering about how
I'll enter the new GRO birth and death indexes accessed on the GRO site
itself which have more information.


I find myself going back to Basic sources more and more frequently, because
Sourcewriter seems so difficult to use. It seems to ask for lots of
information that isn't available, and you end up with nowhere to put the
really important stuff, like where you actually found the information you 
are

trying to record.


Where you found the information would be the repository and there is a tab 
for that in the sourcewriter. 



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Re: [LegacyUG] Descriptions in Events

[R G Strong-genes]

It seems that something like that would be a source and not an event.

-Original Message- 
From: Martha Graham 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:53 PM 
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Descriptions in Events 


Hi Jennie,
Thank you.
It is not the event notes I wish to change, it is the event description. 
But I thank you for the detailed explanation.

Here is what I have:
Event Name: Family Files
Event Desc: Blank
Event Date: Jan 1997

Here is what I want to have
Event Name: Family Files
Event Desc: Zink Data
Event Date: Jan 1997

I did an experiment yesterday that worked, sorta. And now cannot 
remember exactly what I did. But I did get the event Desc inserted 
globally. But, because I made a new file with all 386 folks in it - 
which turned out to add the families. Did an 'oops' - anyhow, long story 
shorter... I managed to get the Zink Data inserted. but then added the 
people back in to a new master file and it duplicated them. Well, that 
was ok because I had them tagged, but it unlinked some of them and to be 
honest, I am not sure why it unlinked some of them.


Back to the drawing board this morning.
I did notice the event notes stuff which I hardly ever use. Played with 
it a bit, but it will not do what I want.


You are probably right, what I want to do is not within the capabilities 
of Legacy at this point.


Cheers,
Martha
In Los Osos, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Statistics Report

[R G Strong-genes]

John,
When you open the report try clicking on the Reset on the right hand side of 
the screen and try the report again.
Russ

From: John Groome 
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2016 12:51 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Statistics Report

I find the statistic report especially helpful to find individuals with missing 
birth dates.

 

When I run the report I can see immediately the count of “individuals with 
insufficient date information” from which I can produce a search list and 
investigate any issues.

 

After the list has been created I can view this in the current window (no 
issues) but if I select “options – include married names” then the list seems 
to revert to the results of a query I had run earlier which is totally 
unconnected.

 

I have viewed the archives but cannot see anything specific to this issue.

 

Has anyone got a solution

 

Thanks and Regards

 

John Groome

Upper Hutt, NZ

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Too many e-mails that I do not want

[R G Strong-genes]

FYI, mail to the list from Yahoo mail servers come in as attachments and is 
not recommended as people usually just delete any messages that come in as 
attachements. Better off using gmail which you can do the same thing with.


-Original Message- 
From: lucee-...@prodigy.net

Sent: Monday, August 08, 2016 3:00 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Too many e-mails that I do not want

See you are  in Australia but assume you can use Yahoo.
Suggestion, open a free Yahoo account, their new system captures all emails 
with the same subject line into one email stream

Use this email address for your Legacy Group
Do not download this email to your regular email software, read and store it 
all online at Yahoo
I receive like 50 emails but they are all combined by subject so it turns 
into a stream of only 8 or 9 emails in most cases
This keeps the info separate from your regular mail and off your computer 
but still handy if you need to work with the information that list provides.


They allow you to make folders which you can move the legacy emails into by 
subject if you wish to retain them for future reference.


Lucy



Lucy M Abbott
lucee-...@prodigy.net

" He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his 
life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last 
beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."






On Sunday, August 7, 2016 11:21 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:



Reg,

If you belong to a mailing list, you get all the emails sent to the list.

The Legacy User Group list isn't a particularly busy list but, if you
need to, find out how to filter your email into different
mailboxes/folders based on either something in the subject line (eg:
subject contains [LegacyUG]) or the To: (To =
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com). Most email programs can do that.
Then you only see the list email when you choose to go to that
mailbox/folder.

The alternative is to unsubscribe. Email lists are all or nothing.

Cathy

kems...@aussiebb.com.au wrote:


The number of emails coming through each day is uncontrollable.
How do I only get emails that concern me and not a great number of emails?
I do not get this crap from other sites that I use?
I did not get this many emails up to the beging of July this year'
Is there a filtering system that I can Use?
Reg Kemp
Australia





kems...@aussiebb.com.au 
Monday, 8 August 2016 12:13 PM



The number of emails coming through each day is uncontrollable.
How do I only get emails that concern me and not a great number of emails?
I do not get this crap from other sites that I use?
I did not get this many emails up to the beging of July this year'
Is there a filtering system that I can Use?
Reg Kemp
Australia







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Re: [LegacyUG] Searchable PDF's & linking

[R G Strong-genes]

Martha,
You did not state which version you are using but in version 8 in family view 
of the person you want to link the document to. Click on the picture icon to 
open the Media Gallery, then click on Add Media button and on the dropdown list 
click on Document then locate your PDG and he will be linked to it.
Version 7.5 do the same except when the Media Gallery opens click on the button 
labeled “File” and then locate the file you want linked.
Hope this helps,
Russ

From: Martha Graham 
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 2:55 PM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Searchable PDF's & linking

Good Afternoon,
I have a document that is very lengthy and which contains information on 
multiple collateral families I have in my active database.

I can convert it to a searchable pdf so that any name or location can be easily 
found.
What I would like to be able to do is to link the pdf to a particular person in 
my data - similar to the way images can be linked.

I know that online links can be added to Events and Event Notes so that they 
come up on a FGS or Report, but is there a way to link to the pdf so that it 
can be accessed on a report created from Legacy without it having to be on an 
online source?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Martha
In Los Osos, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes

[R G Strong-genes]

Steve,
That is not entirely true, SourceWriter can create a master source for 
emails as 1. Grouped by correspondent or  2. by each email.  I use 
sourcewriter for emails grouped by correspondent. You might want to take a 
look at: 7-Other records>E-mail>Grouped by correspondent.


I create a master source for the correspondent with their info then I use 
the email for the source detail.

Russ

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Hayes

Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:43 AM
To: Martha Graham ; Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research / General Notes



I don't use Sourcewriter for correspondence, because I find it too
cumbersome. It tends to create a separate master source for each letter or
e-mail, and that just creates digital clutter.


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Re: [LegacyUG] GedCom Viewers

[R G Strong-genes]

GenViewer is a good one from MudCreek at http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/

From: Martha Graham 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 9:21 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] GedCom Viewers

Gloria,
There are quite a few of them here:
http://listoffreeware.com/best-free-gedcom-file-viewer-software-for-windows/

Most of the time, we don't use them as creating a gedcom is usually just for 
the purpose of sharing a file or uploading to a system that will use it online. 

Martha
In Los Osos, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Complete Family Tree

[R G Strong-genes]

Shirley,
How many individuals and generations are you talking about that you want to 
chart?

From: Shirley Brodt 
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 7:03 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Complete Family Tree

Hi Leon, 

Thank you for your advice. I tried the Legacy Charting options, but for some 
reason only the current record names appear. The only chart that works with all 
records is the Descendant chart under Chart Reports, which appearance is not 
what I'm looking for. I think I might have to buy TreeDraw Legacy for all the 
entries to appear properly. You say that none of the chart programs work well, 
so I'm a bit confused. In my online search, the solution that was shown was the 
TreeDraw program, in which one could format the lines, fonts, colours, etc. 
once it imports the data from Legacy. If you have a chance, I'd appreciate your 
feedback on this.


Thanks again for taking the time to reply.


Shirley

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Leon Chapman  wrote:

  Shirley

  I think you are asking for something that you won't like if you had it.  My 
experience with any of the charting programs, you will only be able to use 
maybe 4-5 generations and beyond that you are creating such a large chart, you 
can't see or print it on any reasonable size of paper or poster.

  I have about 40,000 people in my database and anything over about 4-5 
generations is too large to use.  Some of my families go back 15-20 
generations.  In Legacy, you can create a chart of Fathers only that would span 
that many generations.

  In Legacy, use the Legacy Charting icon to the right of the Internet icon and 
you can plot lots of different charts.  I would suggest you try some of those 
before purchasing other software. 
  In some of my testing of Legacy Charting, I have created charts of over 100 
generations. The problem is, you cannot print that size of chart - it is just a 
paper generator.

  If you only have a few people in your database with only 3-4 generations, 
then you could chart something useful to be printed.

  Anyway, just my thoughts, you won't be happy with what you are asking for.


  Chap
  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


  Sent from my iPad 
  Leon Chapman
  chap...@gmail.com
  ⛳


  On Jun 2, 2016, at 2:30 PM, Shirley Brodt  wrote:


Hi Evelyn, 

I have chart reports and other reports, but there are no options for 
either. Thanks for getting back to me.

Shirley

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Evelyn ..  wrote:

  Have you tried the Legacy Charting options on the Reports tab?

  On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Shirley Brodt  
wrote:

I just purchased Legacy, and it seems that I can't make a chart of all 
family members in one chart. I checked online, and I found that if I buy 
TreeDraw Legacy, I could use that for all the info in the Legacy data base. It 
seems like a waste of money for a genealogy program to not have the option to 
view the complete family tree. Any ideas or advice are welcome. 

Shirley

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Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculation - charts, etc

[R G Strong-genes]

your 3rd grandfather would be your grandson’s 5th grandfather

From: Martha Graham 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:24 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Relationship calculation - charts, etc

Good Afternoon,
I was intrigued by the questions and tried an experiment or two.
Here is what I wanted to do: Figure out how my 3rd Grandfather was related to 
my Grandson. 

1.  I changed the Relationship settings from myself to my 3rd great-grandfather.
Then I used the Miscellaneous Search functions to set the parameters I thought 
might produce the report I wanted.

2. Open the 'Search' Function, click on the 'Detailed' Tab
The first set - Select: Individual. Where: Dropdown box, select Surname. How, 
Equal. What: I entered my 3 x G Grandfather's Surname: Averill

3. Second Set: Individual, Relationship, Equal to, Related
4. Third Set: Individual, Surname, Equal to, Simonaro [my Grandson's Surname]

Use 'and' in all the slots.
Then Click the 'Create List' tab at the bottom.
Guess what? My grandson is not related.
If I set the 'and' to 'or' in the 3rd set, it produces a list of 97 people who 
are related.
The search list of the 97 people can be tagged and a report made.

Martha
In Los Osos, CA




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Re: [LegacyUG] Question on entries

[R G Strong-genes]

Ed,
I would make one the birth entry (the one you think is more accurate) and 
the other as an Alt Birth event, citing both. I would first go to 
familysearch.org and see if you can find the reference to both of those 
sources and most of the time there is a link to each of the original batch 
files for those sources. You can then check and see what the difference is 
between the two. I have no idea what those initials represent.



-Original Message- 
From: Ed Ladendorf via LegacyUserGroup

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:32 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Cc: Ed Ladendorf
Subject: [LegacyUG] Question on entries


You stated:
Although I have to question the source, I do have sources from 
familysearch.org for siblings, one of which is almost certainly a direct 
ancestor of mine. Here's the problem: These are from the same parents - one 
name listed is Petri Schommer 1799 - ?. The other is Petri Josephus Schommer 
(note name similarities) 1801 - ?. Both records were submitted by the same 
contributor, on the same day. The only difference in citing the source (IGI 
index) is that part of one citation is 2:1:MGHL, while the other is 
2:1:MRSV. My gut feeling is that one of these is wrong, and they are the 
same person. This whole family is new for me, with the exception of my 
direct ancestor, b 1799. I have only secondary sources for the birth. I 
found six siblings. Pertaining to entering this in a database, how would you 
handle that? I would appreciate ideas, since I have not entered them yet. 



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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I enter English locations in Legacy

[R G Strong-genes]

Rural Delivery

-Original Message- 
From: Brian L. Lightfoot

Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:57 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I enter English locations in Legacy

Ummmin regards to your Rule 1: Never User(sic) Abbreviations!

Is not "RD" you cite in several examples an abbreviation? Gotcha!  :-)

Besides, people on this side of the pond have no idea what RD or even
Registration District mean in any type of address (excepting most
genealogists).


Brian in CA (this is not an abbreviation. I actually live in a place called
"CA".)



-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of MikeFry
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 6:41 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I enter English locations in Legacy

On 12 Apr 2016 2:40 PM, Linda Greethurst wrote:


This note pertains to a bit of history, geography and using Legacy to
enter the info.  I want to clearly designate the difference between
the locations of church events such as baptism and burial and the
civil events such as birth and death.


Adding to what Jenny has said:

Civil events - I use the name of the Registration District with a suffix of
RD.
Occasionally, I'll add the county as well. For example, I have relatives
born and bred in Wiveton in Norfolk, England. For Civil Events. I would use
Walsingham RD or Walsingham RD, Norfolk. I will, sometimes, add the parish,
so that I get Wiveton, Walsingham RD, Norfolk. This is used for Births,
Marriages and Deaths.

Church events - generally follow a standard of parish, village, county,
country.
Hence: St Mary the Virgin, Wiveton, Norfolk, England. This gets used for
baptisms/christenings, marriages and burials.

Censuses - a slightly different standard that follows what is recorded for
each
census: place, county, country. Sometimes in the larger towns or cities, I
would add a civil parish (again taken from the census).

Rule 1: NEVER USER ABBREVIATIONS!

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Re: [LegacyUG] LUG R.I.P.

[R G Strong-genes]

somebody being funny

From: Glenny 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 11:51 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LUG R.I.P.

WHat is this???


On 4/7/2016 8:40 AM, bward...@mc.net wrote:

  

  April ,Seventh, MMVVVI

  AJM

  God Bless America ! 

   






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Re: [LegacyUG] Getting too much mail that does not concern me

[R G Strong-genes]

talk to support

From: Rochelle Coslow-Robinson 
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:31 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Getting too much mail that does not concern me

Good afternoon,
In response to the below conversation, I've tried repeatedly, following the 
directions to unsubscribe myself from the list with no luck. Is there an 
alternative method to having my email address removed?

Appreciate any solutions.

Regards

On Mar 28, 2016, at 11:23 PM, Jennie Matheson  wrote:


  Hi Connie

  If you don't want to receive these emails,  you will need to unsubscibe as 
per instructions at bottom of email. 

  Jennie

  On 29 Mar 2016 2:21 pm, "Connie Colley"  wrote:

Please stop including me in mail that is no concern of mine
Connie Colley


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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining locations in Lecacy 8

[R G Strong-genes]

Steve,
I don't know how you are doing it, but when you open the master location 
list you can combine more that one at a time by holding the cntrl key while 
you highlight the ones you want to combine. Once they are all highlighted 
then you can click on the combine with button and select the one you want 
them to merge with. I have never had any error problems in any of the op 
systems you use and now use 10 with no problems.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve Hayes

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:28 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: [LegacyUG] Combining locations in Lecacy 8

I'm having problems combining locations in Legacy 8.

Paradoxically it seems to work faster on my slower desktop computer with
Windows XP than on my faster laptop (with more RAM) running Windows 7.

On the laptop machine, particularly, it keeps popping up error messages. It
pops up something to tell me that there is no such county as La Salle county
in Illinois (I know that, that's why I was trying to combine it with an 
entry

that had Lasalle county).

Then every time I combine two locations (with slightly different spelling or
punctuation) it tells me that there is an error and I must run file
maintenance.

Earlier versions of Legacy performed this operation much faster, without all
the annoying popups, and waiting ten minutes for it to locate the location.

Is there any way of at least turning off the popups, and of combining 
several

locations at once without having to run file maintenance after each one?



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Re: [LegacyUG] Which report?

[R G Strong-genes]

Linda,
If you just created it it is not on the web unless you uploaded it to a site. 
All it has done is created the webpages on your site and you have to view them 
on your local computer with internet browser. The only time they will be on the 
actual internet is if you uploaded them there.
Russ

From: Linda Yocum 
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2016 11:21 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Which report?

HELP!!!  I created a web page as per Mike Bigley's instructions.  It looks 
fantastic, but how do I go about deleting it from the internet?  I should have 
done a lot of editing and deleting of info first! 

 

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> From: sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 15:50:12 -0500
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Which report?
> 
> Thanks to everyone for the many possibilities to get the report I need. 
> All are good and workable ideas and I look forward to accomplishing my goal.
> 
> What a great group of folks here! So kind to help when needed.
> 
> Jane S.
> 
> On 3/5/2016 12:21 AM, Steve Hayes via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering a sibling without parents

[R G Strong-genes]

It does, however, create a marriage record for unknown and unknown.

-Original Message- 
From: MikeFry

Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 3:49 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering a sibling without parents

On 25 Feb 2016 3:13 AM, Ed Ladendorf via LegacyUserGroup wrote:

For a long time, because of several strong indications, I was reasonably 
sure
that Susanna Schommer was a sister to my g-grandmother, Maria Schommer. 
Now I

finally have proof of that. When I went to enter a sibling for Maria, I
recieved a message saying that siblings cannot be entered without first
having a parent.


I have no information whatsoever as to what their parents' names were, so 
in

my mind, not entering a sibling would be a sin. She needs to be there so
someone other than myself could have a shot of finding something I 
couldn't
yet find. So I entered a mother with the given name of "Not", and the 
surname
of "Known". The sibling was then added successfully. Has anyone else had 
this

problem, and if so, how did you handle it?


In a past existence (Legacy 7.5) it was possible, with a parent-less person 
on

show in the Family tab, to double-click on the empty parents and have the
program 'create' blank parents. You could then add a sibling to the 
original,
parent-less person. No parents were actually created. This no longer seems 
to

work under version 8.0

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Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.

[R G Strong-genes]

The best way would be to just add the father's surnames and leave the first 
names and spouses blank or use privacy brackets ie [[this is the father of 
John Smith]]. If you start putting initials in for N.N. no name then it is 
very likely that some one else researching will see that and start looking 
for someone with those initials. I have been there and done that! For the 
life of me I could not find all those people with the surname of UNK who was 
in my database from an import that had been done when I first started out!!
So for unknown information it is best to leave it blank or insert those 
privacy brackets as that is what keeps them private and not published.


To create the cousin, go to John Smith and add father, and enter him with 
just the Surname and then go to him and repeat. You are now at the 
grandfathers screen. You should now see him with no spouse with one mail 
child, now just click in the children list box to add another male child. 
This is where privacy brackets come in handy to separate the first names ie 
[[child1]] and [[child2]] which will pop up a warning that you can tell it 
to ignore. Note this will put an * in the exceptions box near the bottom of 
the screen once you have a name for them don't forget to edit that box to 
correct the exception.
Now navigate down by going to the new child and adding another male child 
for David's father. Go to his father now Add Child and link to existing 
person David. You now have the cousins linked.

Russ

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Hayes

Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:46 AM
To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter the following.

On 24 Feb 2016 at 17:24, June wrote:


I have all people EXCEPT David Smith. I canTMt work out how to put him on
making him the first cousin of Simon Smith because I donTMt have either
David or SimonTMs parents.


Then you use placeholders for their parents and grandparents.

Since it seems likely that their fathers, at least, had the surname of 
Smith,
you enter something like N.N. Smith for the father of one, and Mrs N.N. 
Smith

for his wife. And N.M. Smith for the parents of the other, and Mrs N.M./
Smith as his wife. And for the parents of those two smiths you put Grandpa
Smith and Grandma Smith.

And then, voila! David and Simon are cousins.

And when you do find the real names, you substitute them for the placeholder
names.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID

[R G Strong-genes]

Cathy,
DITTO THAT just spent the day cleaning out my document files of old documents 
and that was just for financial documents that are over five years old and 
don’t even pertain to genealogy. That folder is even bigger LOL as I am also 
trying to reorganize my files to be more consistent with the source document 
that I use to make copy for my online files.
Something to do on a COLD BLIZZARDY NIGHT yuk. and also lock it down on my 
network so there is only one internet access point instead of every visitor 
(family, kids want internet while visiting at holidays and that ends up costing 
me more


From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID

Don,

Have you sent in your suggestions? They don't get logged by writing to an email 
list. Use the link on the Home Tab.

I only use File ID for hard copy sources and mostly they're in Source detail. 
I'm toying with using it more for digital files as I'm rethinking some of my 
organisation.

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:


  Thanks, Cathy.  That would work OK, but I’ll have to keep a pdf “open”
  for quick access and it would have to be updated frequently to be
  reasonably current.  My suggestion would be to add a “Find by File ID”
  search box to the Master Source List.

  …  and while your programmers are at it, why not make the “Find” (by
  Source List Title) box have more flexible search criteria (with wild
  cards?), so that you don’t have to remember the exact spelling of the
  beginning of a title for the first of its “class” to be found.

  Life for me was simple when all my sources were “prefixed” with the
  File ID (ie., 2500 – 1900 US Census…) and all my media files had the
  same File ID in their filename (ie., 2500_IMG.jpg).  But I am trying
  to do away with the Source Name prefix so that source lists sort
  alphabetically by “real” source name, not File ID.  I suspect that
  will help a lot is visualizing sources of a common nature (ie.. all
  1900 censuses will be grouped together in lists).  But it will be
  harder to find sources when I want to make changes to the media
  gallery for a source.

  Thanks again for your ideas.

  Don

  Donald Quigley

  Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree 

  *From:*Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
  *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 5:23 PM
  *T o:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID

  Don,

  I think the only way is to do a File ID Report and find your ID in
  that. You can restrict the report to Master Sources. (Reports - Other
  Reports - File ID)

  Cathy

  Don Quigley wrote:


  Does anyone know how to search for a Master Source by its File ID ?

  Donald Quigley

  Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree 






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Re: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID

[R G Strong-genes]

Don,
I have mine set up as Jeff does in his example ie:
If it has to do with a place ie census, city directory, etc it is named by the 
place largest to smallest.
If it has to do with just the Surname it is filed by SURNAME, ie SURNAME – 
title, SURNAME-MAIDEN family – title.
Just a thought.
Ps I don’t convert them until It is relative to more that just a few or I feel 
the urge to update them lol.

From: Don Quigley
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:48 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID

Thanks, Cathy.  That would work OK, but I’ll have to keep a pdf “open” for 
quick access and it would have to be updated frequently to be reasonably 
current.  My suggestion would be to add a “Find by File ID” search box to the 
Master Source List.



…  and while your programmers are at it, why not make the “Find” (by Source 
List Title) box have more flexible search criteria (with wild cards?), so that 
you don’t have to remember the exact spelling of the beginning of a title for 
the first of its “class” to be found.



Life for me was simple when all my sources were “prefixed” with the File ID 
(ie., 2500 – 1900 US Census…) and all my media files had the same File ID in 
their filename (ie., 2500_IMG.jpg).  But I am trying to do away with the Source 
Name prefix so that source lists sort alphabetically by “real” source name, not 
File ID.  I suspect that will help a lot is visualizing sources of a common 
nature (ie.. all 1900 censuses will be grouped together in lists).  But it will 
be harder to find sources when I want to make changes to the media gallery for 
a source.



Thanks again for your ideas.



Don







Donald Quigley

Escondido, CA

Quigley Doyle Family Tree





From: Cathy Pinner [mailto:genea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 5:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Search for Master Source by File ID



Don,

I think the only way is to do a File ID Report and find your ID in that. You 
can restrict the report to Master Sources. (Reports - Other Reports - File ID)

Cathy

Don Quigley wrote:




  Does anyone know how to search for a Master Source by its File ID ?

  Donald Quigley

  Escondido, CA

  Quigley Doyle Family Tree 





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Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter and personal knowledge

[R G Strong-genes]

Steve,
I use the source writer for email correspondence but I use the template for
correspondence by author that way the author is the master source and not
each email.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Steve Hayes
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter and personal knowledge

On 27 Jan 2016 at 9:22, William Boswell wrote:

> Maybe I should try the SourceWriter template since after going through my
> sources to clean them up I've noticed my earlier use of personal knowledge
> only shows the source with nothing in the details.  There's something to
> be
> said for doing the sources right the first time and not years later.
> Fortunately those are the only sources I have that are incomplete.

While I find SourceWriter useful for some things, I find it less useful for
others.

For example, I don't use it for personal correspondence, because it makes
each letter or e-mail a separate master source, with too much detail
entered,
and not enough printed in footnotes in reports etc..




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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[R G Strong-genes]

Barbara,
Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If
it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files
associated with that family file and it has the most current file
information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for
Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then
check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is
probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy
the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is
located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the
same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a
different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes
as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by
requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path
is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually
append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same
file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to
keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your
up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I
would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when
you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working
directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I
also store  a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and
user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both
Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the
google drive for the corresponding programs.

If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder
and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same
family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under
the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the
changed files into it.

from the help file:

Here is how IntelliShare works:

Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.)
One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper
for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically
marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that
uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the
Family File to all the other people participating in the group.

Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete
or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can
also make changes and additions to the master file.

After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a
copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation.

The Keeper then follows this procedure:

Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a
backup of course).

Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.

>From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose
the IntelliShare option.

Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options
window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values
and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At
the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more
persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when
deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any
way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the
situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG.
Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process.

The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones
that have been changed by someone in the group.

At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is
displayed.

After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family file
back to the other group members for more changes and additions.

Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going
through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more files.

hope this helps,

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Barbara Ford
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, please


I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0,
because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that
version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind,
there is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in
C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb (with familytreewip being the "name" of my
data). Then when I exit the program, when it 

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

[R G Strong-genes]

sorry that I cannot seem to express my question in a concise and 
reasonable manner. I so appreciate everyone's efforts to help me, I just don't 
like using something that I don't have at least a rudimentary grasp on how it 
works, in terms of data safety. I thought I had it, but sure don't understand 
what just happened!


  If anyone is brave enough to jump into my confusion again, I do truly 
appreciate it.
  Barbara





  Sent from my iPad



On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Barbara,
Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If
it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files
associated with that family file and it has the most current file
information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for
Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then
check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is
probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy
the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is
located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the
same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a
different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes
as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by
requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the path
is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually
append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the same
file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to
keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your
up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I
would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and when
you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your working
directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I
also store  a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and
user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have both
Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the
google drive for the corresponding programs.

If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder
and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the same
family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under
the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the
changed files into it.

from the help file:

Here is how IntelliShare works:

Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.)
One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" (Keeper
for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically
marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that
uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the
Family File to all the other people participating in the group.

Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, delete
or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can
also make changes and additions to the master file.

After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a
copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation.

The Keeper then follows this procedure:

Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a
backup of course).

Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates.

From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and choose
the IntelliShare option.

Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options
window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values
and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At
the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more
persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when
deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in any
way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the
situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG.
Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process.

The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones
that have been changed by someone in the group.

At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is
displayed.

After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a n

Re: [LegacyUG] Adding images

[R G Strong-genes]

The underling program is a database that is why the links to the image are
stored and not the image. Your file would start to grow in size if you were
to store the images in the database.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Briscoe
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:47 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Adding images

The thing that I always wish that I could do with Legacy is to just paste an
image into a record (usually source details) and leave Legacy to save it.

Martin Briscoe
Fort William
mar...@mbriscoe.me.uk








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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a Gedcom

[R G Strong-genes]

Daphne,
You must have missed my reply to Boyd on the 13th on the tree subject. I export 
my whole database which has 14 trees however, since I am the only one that is 
an admin and I assign new users “Tentative updates to Names, Places and 
Sources” I only have one Tree on my TNG site. Incase you missed it or deleted 
it here was my reply:

I have 14 trees in my Family file of 25,617 individuals, however, since I am 
the only admin on my TNG site there is only one “Tree” on the site that 
includes all the individuals in my 14 Trees.

Tree 1 has 20397 individuals at RIN 1, me.
Tree 2 has 40 at RIN 13655, Broad, Eliza Jane.
Tree 3 has 21 at RIN 162, Wallace, William, Sir.
Tree 4 has 14 at RIN 13099, Howard, John M..
Tree 5 has 12 at RIN 13838, Snider, William.
Tree 6 has 3 at RIN 164, Halladay, John, Sir.
Tree 7 has 3 at RIN 166, Halladay, Thomas.
Tree 8 has 3 at RIN 15191, Evans, Lyman.
Tree 9 has 2 at RIN 15051, Kutz, Mary Polly.
Tree 10 has 2 at RIN 17917, Pratt.
Tree 11 has 1 at RIN 7712 Halladay, Francis.
Tree 12 has 1 at RIN 12638, Coppers, Richard “Dick”.
Tree 13 has 1 at RIN 16149, Pratt, Jonathan.
Tree 14 has 1 at RIN 20350, Snyder, David.

The reason for including all of these trees in the one TNG Tree is that a 
visitor may come along and have a connection to one of the trees that may lead 
to a connection to the main tree. You may notice that there are high number 
RINs that have only 1 or a few individuals, they are in my file as unconnected 
or unproven connections to my main line. They may be witnesses on a document 
usually two or more documents that I have not found a link to, or as Trees 2, 
5, 12 and 14 are users on my site who may have or have not submitted a lineage 
to me for inclusion or connection. A few like the Halladay and Wallace Trees 
are there for historical or legends links. The Halladay surname is my largest 
and legend has them descendants of Sir William Wallace, of Scotland, thus Tree 
3.

There is a privacy policy on my site for new users that tells the criteria for 
becoming a registered user and that they should be at least connected to one of 
the surnames listed on the site and show their connections. Since my site has 
been around for awhile (when it was first on AOL>rootsweb which was data mined 
and had lots of errors and someone claimed it was their tree a whole another 
story>to my own website powered by TNG) I have reduced the number of separate 
trees and have merged a couple and deleted a whole line of unproven Halladay’s 
from a bogus tree created in the 19th and early 20th century! Thus the RED Font 
DISCLAIMER on my site that not all sources have been checked!
Does that help?

From: D. Eze
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 4:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] creating a Gedcom

Thank you so much everyone for your imput.

I figured out some of the problem. I think there was something wrong with my 
"Main" legacy file. When I exported the whole file as either "gedcom for 
legacy" or "new legacy file" Jessie and Alexander were unlinked. So in the new 
legacy file I relinked them and then exported as "gedcom" and everything was 
fine.


R G Stong-genes I really appreciate your explanation of how you export for TNG.


I have one more question. Did you split you Legacy file into different files or 
did you make focus groups to export so that you could import the separate trees 
into TNG?


Daphne Eze



On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Wendy Howard  wrote:

  If I'm reading you right, you need to link Alexander and Jessie as
  husband and wife.

  Right-click on one of them and select Add... from the menu that pops up,
  then select the appropriate spouse (husband or wife, depending on who
  you started with), and then add an existing person and navigate to the
  other spouse.

  Since this is Jessie's first marriage, but you're entering it after her
  second one, click on Jessie's spouse icon and sort the marriages into
  their proper order, so they appear in that order in reports.

  Hope this helps.  :-)

  Wendy

  D. Eze wrote on 13/01/2016 12:52:
  > When I create a gedcom from Legacy 8.0.0.536 it leaves out a whole
  > branch. I have untagged everyone.
  >
  > When I was creating the gedcom I did Ctrl-E then next to "produce file
  > for"  I choose "gedcom 5.5.1 only", and then next "record selection" I
  > left it at "all records in the entire family file". Next I clicked the
  > export button.
  >
  > I want to import this into TNG. I checked the gedcom in the program
  > "Ahnenblatt" to make sure it wasn't a problem with TNG. The
  > information in missing in the gedcom.
  >
  > After investigating some more I realized that the people are there but
  > they are not connected thro their marriage like they should be.
  >
  > Alexander shows up with his first wife (Louisa) but not his second
  > (Jessie). Jessie shows up with her second husband (William) but not
  > her first (Alexander).
  >
  > So the 

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

[R G Strong-genes]

Dale,
You can have 10 saved source citations in the source citation. When he right
clicks on the triangle the list of those citations appear where you can
click which one you want. When you have the source-citation clip-board open
in the bottom right there are buttons where you can Clear, Load, or Save the
citations to Disk.

-Original Message-
From: Dale E O'Connor
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 4:29 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing information/images/documents

So when he does a right click they are not on his source clipboard. When
he chooses a source it loads  and uses it.

Dale

On 1/15/2016 2:54 PM, Brian/Support wrote:
> The Blue triangle opens the source clipboard. Since Geoff only uses one
> source on his clipboards he was selecting a new/different source to use
> on the clipboard.
>
> Wendy is correct that if you use multiple sources on your clipboard then
> you will apply all the current sources at one time, there is no selection.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
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>
>
>
> On 15/01/2016 14:12, Dale E O'Connor wrote:
>> Did I misunderstand Geoff in Legacy's Ultimate Guide to Sources where he
>> said that you could right click on the blue triangle and select which
>> source to use?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> On 1/13/2016 10:47 PM, Wendy Howard wrote:
>>> Now you can load more than one citation into the Source Clipboard,a nd
>>> when you apply the Source Clipboard all your citations will be attached
>>> to that data._Note that you cannot have more than one citation in the
>>> Source
>>> Clipboard and only apply one of them - it's all or nothing.___
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a Gedcom

[R G Strong-genes]

Boyd,
I have 14 trees in my Family file of 25,617 individuals, however, since I am
the only admin on my TNG site there is only one “Tree” on the site that
includes all the individuals in my 14 Trees.

Tree 1 has 20397 individuals at RIN 1, me.
Tree 2 has 40 at RIN 13655, Broad, Eliza Jane.
Tree 3 has 21 at RIN 162, Wallace, William, Sir.
Tree 4 has 14 at RIN 13099, Howard, John M..
Tree 5 has 12 at RIN 13838, Snider, William.
Tree 6 has 3 at RIN 164, Halladay, John, Sir.
Tree 7 has 3 at RIN 166, Halladay, Thomas.
Tree 8 has 3 at RIN 15191, Evans, Lyman.
Tree 9 has 2 at RIN 15051, Kutz, Mary Polly.
Tree 10 has 2 at RIN 17917, Pratt.
Tree 11 has 1 at RIN 7712 Halladay, Francis.
Tree 12 has 1 at RIN 12638, Coppers, Richard “Dick”.
Tree 13 has 1 at RIN 16149, Pratt, Jonathan.
Tree 14 has 1 at RIN 20350, Snyder, David.

The reason for including all of these trees in the one TNG Tree is that a
visitor may come along and have a connection to one of the trees that may
lead to a connection to the main tree. You may notice that there are high
number RINs that have only 1 or a few individuals, they are in my file as
unconnected or unproven connections to my main line. They may be witnesses
on a document usually two or more documents that I have not found a link to,
or as Trees 2, 5, 12 and 14 are users on my site who may have or have not
submitted a lineage to me for inclusion or connection. A few like the
Halladay and Wallace Trees are there for historical or legends links. The
Halladay surname is my largest and legend has them descendants of Sir
William Wallace, of Scotland, thus Tree 3.

There is a privacy policy on my site for new users that tells the criteria
for becoming a registered user and that they should be at least connected to
one of the surnames listed on the site and show their connections. Since my
site has been around for awhile (when it was first on AOL>rootsweb which was
datamined and had lots of errors and someone claimed it was their tree a
whole another story>to my own website powered by TNG) I have reduced the
number of separate trees and have merged a couple and deleted a whole line
of unproven Halladay’s from a bogus tree created in the 19th and early 20th
century! Thus the RED Font DISCLAIMER on my site that not all sources have
been checked!
Does that help?

Russ
PS should set up your email to send messages to this list in plain text and
also delete all the footer messages as they will add them to the messages.


From: Boyd Miller
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 4:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] creating a Gedcom

Have you by chance got two separate trees and not one complete family? View
 > Trees > Refresh.
Boyd


On 13/01/2016 4:11 p.m., R G Strong-genes wrote:
Daphne, Did you create a private gedcom? I would recommend that you create a
GEDCOM for Legacy with the following settings which I use all the time.
Options page: Type of file to Produce Produce file for: Legacy Character
Set: ANSI Break Note lines every 80 characters (at nearest word) if you have
 and  check it if you don’t want them appearing
on your site. check Keep embedded formatting codes within text (if you are
using them in your file) check Convert formatting codes to HTML style check
Make space strings in note fields web friendly check Override Source options
– include all source information (optional you can try it one way and 
then
the other and check your sources to see how the look. There was an add on
managers config file to change Legacy sources to look better but don’t
know if it has been updated for version 10.) Show double dates if you want
them to appear if unchecked Legacy won’t use the option setting for 
double
dates. go to Privacy Options page Make sure nothing is checked if you want
“Living Individuals and Their Families” to appear and you want TNG 
to
control the privacy options set on your site! Under Override Private
Settings: Check how you want those individuals to appear. I have no checks
on this page. If you want Compiler info in your gedcom go to that screen and
fill it out. Go to Customize screen: The Default items available should
appear over to the right side then you can remove the items you don’t 
want
on your site. Then: as you may know the tags with underscores are
proprietary and will need to be accepted or denied in TNG so it knows what
to do with it. Remove the ones you don’t want to appear on the site or
don’t need. Remove the _Tag#s if you aren’t using them or If you 
are and
want to define them on your site then leave them (ie I haven’t tried this
yet but I have some of my tags are defined and do not change, Tags4-9, I use
Tags 1-3 for temporary tags, so my tag five is defined as “Sources not
verified yet” and My TAG7 is defined as “Possible Living male Strong
descendant” since I am in the STRONG DNA study and use that to work on

[LegacyUG] Trimming footer's

[R G Strong-genes]

Seems like people are forgetting or have not read any of the Etiquette links in 
the footers or are new.
I have been seeing a lot of replies where those footers keep growing and you 
have to wade to get to the gist of the OP’s message.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Household Staff on Census Forms

[R G Strong-genes]

Steve,
I list everyone in that household in the source citation and/or notes. If you 
are using shared citation they can be added without being added to your 
database. They may prove to be connected later on or link to someone else. You 
never know, ie one of my ancestor’s son later married the servant that was 
listed on a prior year’s census. The only place I was able to locate a 
connection to her. Another example one of my ancestor’s was listed as a servant 
on a later census when he was in his twenties and was the only way I traced him 
through the years. In my own family, my 3rd gr-grandmother Strong worked as a 
servant in a Strong household in the county we know live in when they emigrated 
here from PA>OH>MI in the late 1800’s sometime between 1860 and 1870. We had no 
idea how this Strong family was related to our Strong family until my cousin 
had her brother submit his DNA and I had our DNA submitted and joined the 
STRONG DNA study at FamilyTreeDNA. And then we knew which way and where to look 
to make a connection. More on that can be found on my site under the DNA study 
links.

Russell G. Strong
P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program 
can be downloaded FREE at
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Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
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From: Steve Wilson
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 6:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Household Staff on Census Forms

Hi,



I have a question about staff/servant that are listed as part of a household on 
a census form.



I am looking at a 1910 United States Federal Census that has 2 people listed as 
part of the household; a cook and a nurse. I do not include these people as 
part of the household when entering census information. What do other people do?



Thanks, Steve W.

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Re: [LegacyUG] creating a Gedcom

[R G Strong-genes]

Daphne,
Did you create a private gedcom? I would recommend that you create a GEDCOM for 
Legacy with the following settings which I use all the time.

Options page:
Type of file to Produce
Produce file for: Legacy
Character Set: ANSI
Break Note lines every 80 characters (at nearest word)
if you have  and  check it if you don’t want them 
appearing on your site.
check Keep embedded formatting codes within text (if you are using them in your 
file)
check Convert formatting codes to HTML style
check Make space strings in note fields web friendly
check Override Source options – include all source information (optional you 
can try it one way and then the other and check your sources to see how the 
look. There was an add on managers config file to change Legacy sources to look 
better but don’t know if it has been updated for version 10.)
Show double dates if you want them to appear if unchecked Legacy won’t use the 
option setting for double dates.

go to Privacy Options page
Make sure nothing is checked if you want “Living Individuals and Their 
Families” to appear and you want TNG to control the privacy options set on your 
site!
Under Override Private Settings:
Check how you want those individuals to appear.
I have no checks on this page.
If you want Compiler info in your gedcom go to that screen and fill it out.

Go to Customize screen:
The Default items available should appear over to the right side then you can 
remove the items you don’t want on your site.
Then:
as you may know the tags with underscores are proprietary and will need to be 
accepted or denied in TNG so it knows what to do with it.
Remove  the ones you don’t want to appear on the site or don’t need.
Remove the _Tag#s if you aren’t using them or If you are and want to define 
them on your site then leave them (ie I haven’t tried this yet but I have some 
of my tags are defined and do not change, Tags4-9, I use Tags 1-3 for temporary 
tags, so my tag five is defined as “Sources not verified yet” and My TAG7 is 
defined as “Possible Living male Strong descendant” since I am in the STRONG 
DNA study and use that to work on their lines and possible invite them to join 
the study (hic more on that available on my site)).
Remove _UID (only needed if you are merging GEDCOM files so if you plan on 
doing updates on line and gedcoming back (not recommended since a GEDCOM 
changes all Source Writer sources to Basic sources) then leave it in).
Go through the list on the right and remove any other tags you don’t use or 
don’t need on the site. If you have LDS info turned off in your file they won’t 
appear
even if the tag is available on the right. you can remove them to make the list 
shorter.
optional remove the _FamilySearch ID and link tags if you don’t want them on 
your site or leave them if you want visitors to look at them on Family 
Search.(if you know HTML programing recommend editing the links or checking 
them to see if they open in a new window or tab so your visitors don’t leave 
your site).
Not sure what the Label Groups tag is used for.

Groups of Items to Exclude:
The To-Do items if you didn’t remove the _TODO tag and you checked it on the 
first page.
if you don’t want the Address/Phone numbers appearing on site check it.
and any other items you don’t want to appear check them.
once you have the items you want and don’t want and you plan to use it often 
then click on the Save List button and name the file. Then when you make a new 
gedcom just click Load List when you come to the Customize screen(note they are 
now in alphabetic order and some of them do not have the astrisk in front of 
them but they are there as they are the basic ones).
When you are done click on OK

Then finish and create your gedcom.

before you upload the full gedcom I would go to your TNG site and on the 
import/export options screen do an import events only then you can check any 
new ones that have uploaded and click to accept them and the proprietary ones 
you can define them on how they will appear on your site. If you would like to 
know how I defined mine then I will post a link to a page that has that tag 
showing and how it appears on my site still ver 9.2.2 though. Some of them I 
just leave as denied as I don’t use them and usually will appear on the next 
upload unless I removed it from the GEDCOM if you correct it then delete the 
unused ones.
AS THE Table is updated unused ones will still be in the table unless you 
purged the table before the upload which some people do. There is a thread 
somewhere on here on which tables some users purge before an upload 
particularly if you have went through your master place names and cleaned it up 
you will want to purge that table before you upload (ie changed USA to United 
States then all the places with USA will still be there no people connected to 
it.)
Hope this helps a little but I think maybe your privacy settings for your 
gedcom is causing the problem.







From: D. Eze
Sent: Tuesday, January 

Re: [LegacyUG] File Id's

[R G Strong-genes]

Barton,
That’s because it is a user created ID. It can be used for your external
files attached to your family file and will use the file ID
numbering/tracking id's you create. The File ID Number Assistant works with
your file id's that you have used and can add incremental numbers to those
files that you use if you are creating them as you use them.

-Original Message-
From: BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:21 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] File Id's

What is a File ID?  I went to Help and typed in "File ID" in the index
and "File ID Number" came up.  I selected Display and a screen came up
with the heading "File ID Number Assistant."  There is information on
how to generate lists, sort and perform various functions using the File
ID, but there is no definition or explanation of the File ID itself.
That information would be helpful.


Thanks,


Barton




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Re: [LegacyUG] cgf to Legacy

[R G Strong-genes]

Elizabeth,
Google the name of that software and see if anybody has a copy of it or
could make a gedcom from your file. Here is  a link I found
http://www.glodoksoft.com/product.php?id_product=2325

and a definition of the program:

Mindscape Family Tree Creator Deluxe

Here everything you need to research and preserve your family unique
history. Create a custom family tree with our simple yet powerful graphics
application. Change fonts, borders and backgrounds. Add photos, video and
sound to create a multimedia album. Handle source documentation, check your
data integrity and research your family history. Features: Drag and drop
data entry, Auto format wizard, Beautiful graphics.

I don't know if it is available or not.
Russ

-Original Message-
From: Elizabeth Verchio
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 10:40 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] cgf to Legacy

The link Sherry from Support gave is helpful, so when I opened a copy of
the file with Notepad among the spaces and strange combination of
characters identified "Mindscape Family Tree Creator Deluxe". Which
brought to my recall that the person who gave the file to me used a
family tree software that was long ago discontinued.  Oh well.
If anyone has any other suggestions
Thank you
Elizabeth


On 10/24/2015 1:28 AM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
>
> The OP can most likely open the .CFG file using Notepad which
> generally will display everything in a text-like fashion. Yes, you can
> even open .JPG files using Notepad but instead of seeing a graphic,
> you’ll be greeted with a bunch of mumbo-jumbo text. If you look
> closely at the .JPG in Notepad, you will also find the metadata text
> amongst the other mumbo-jumbo.
>
> Most of the smaller .CFG files are pure ASCII text which means they
> can also be opened in any word processor. But given that the OP’s file
> is 409 kB, I’d would venture to say that it will be non-ASCII text
> which probably will not open in a word processor.
>
> Brian in CA
>
> *From:*Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 6:23 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] cgf to Legacy
>
> The only file you can open in Legacy is a .FDB file.
>
> A cfg file is a computer configuration file.
> http://whatis.techtarget.com/fileformat/CFG-Configuration-file
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Sherry
> Technical Support
> Legacy Family Tree
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Elizabeth Verchio
> > wrote:
>
> I know this is not exactly the forum for this, but, I am at the end of
> ideas of how to get a cfg file into a format I can open with Legacy
> Deluxe.  It is a small file, 409 KB. I've had it for 3 or more years. I
> would really like to see the data, can anyone help me?
> I am so appreciative of any assistance.
>
> Elizabeth Verchio
> Born in Alabama 1953 ~ Living in Illinois 1978
>
>



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Re: [LegacyUG] Seeking suggestions for sorting through a database mess

[R G Strong-genes]

Charlene,
That is what I thought. So the best way would be to clean up the one he sent 
you back as far as how he entered data and such to your standards of how you 
want your data formatted, ie places and names and such. If he did not enter any 
sources then you could create a new source for his research and then tag all 
the new people that he entered and then just use the advanced sourcing for the 
tagged people and put it under the general source for them. You could also tag 
them by their creation date ie all those entered after the date you gave him 
the file. Once you have the database to your liking then you can use the 
intellemerge function to merge them together. For more info on how to do that 
see the help file on intellemerge.

From: Charlene C
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 7:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Seeking suggestions for sorting through a database mess

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:28 AM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

  You did not specify what format of your database you gave him.



Sorry if I wasn't clear. In my mind GEDCOM isn't a database in the same way 
that a .csv file isn't a spreadsheet. I sent him the Legacy files.


Thanks,

Charlene

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Re: [LegacyUG] Seeking suggestions for sorting through a database mess

[R G Strong-genes]

You did not specify what format of your database you gave him. If it was the
Legacy database itself then you would want to use your original file as the
main and the other one as the research. Then you would work on the research
database and clean it up as to how you want places formatted and other stuff
to your standards then check it for errors. Once you have it cleaned up to
what you want then open your original database and use the intellamerge to
merge them together and it will merge all the duplicates that are the same.
To see how that works read the help file on intellamerge.
If you gave him your database in GEDCOM format then use Steve's suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Hayes
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 5:47 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Seeking suggestions for sorting through a database
mess

On 15 Oct 2015 at 3:20, Charlene C wrote:

> Is it easier to just start a new file? I'm open to any suggestions on
> methods of sorting through this mess.

If you've still got your original file, make that the main database.

Rename the other one to "Research", and start checking. You can give records
tags for "OK", "Need more checking" "Dubious" and "Wrong".

Export the OK ones to a Gedcom and import them into the main file, then work
through the ones that need further checking, and see what you can use.
Export
them and move them.

Leave the other stuff in the research file, and add other new stuff to it
that may be doubtful -- Gedcoms you receive from other people etc.

.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Files

[R G Strong-genes]

Jolene,
Do not open them from the USB drive. Copy them to the Legacy/Data folder on 
your computer and then open them from there.

From: Jolene
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2015 6:39 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Files

I have saved 3 different Legacy Family files on a USB drive.  I have downloaded 
(8.0 bought) the program on a faster computer and want to take files off my USB 
drive and load them onto my faster computer.  I can get them into Legacy but it 
doesn’t save them, shut down and reopen Legacy without the USB and they aren’t 
there.  What am I overlooking, how do I keep the files in Legacy without using 
my USB drive?

Thanks for your time and any suggestions.


Jolene
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Re: [LegacyUG] GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt broken

[R G Strong-genes]

I also noticed that, that is the only way to get the short location name to
work. When will the fix it so that you don't have to edit a new location to
get the short name.

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:21 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt broken

It is working for me with the file in the users path along with the
GeoExtraCodes.txt file. To get the names to change however I had to use
the Geo DB buttons on the Master location list or when editing a
specific location. Legacy would not modify the location name if I typed
it in directly and omitted the word county.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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On 11/03/2015 12:05 PM, Mark Wilson wrote:
 Could someone please help me get the GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt file
 working?  It hasn't worked for me since the release of version 8.  I
 have tried placing the file in the directory

C:\Users\UserName\Documents\Legacy Family
 Tree\_AppData\Misc\GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt

 and in the directory

C:\Program Files\Legacy8\_AppData\Misc\GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt

 The modifications that I made to the GeoExtraCodes-Alt.txt file were

USA|111| County
United States|111| County

 with no asterisks in front, and had no success.


 I appreciate any help you have to offer!

 Mark Wilson


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Re: [LegacyUG] Moving children and replacing people.

[R G Strong-genes]

The correct way to remove children from a parent is to have the parents in
family view with the parent you want the childe removed from highlighted,
then right click the child in the children list and choose Unlink from
parents and follow the prompts. Then bring up the correct parents in family
view and then in the children list click to Add a Child then pick Link to
existing Son or Link to existing daughter.

-Original Message-
From: wheat...@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 2:48 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Moving children and replacing people.

My great grandfather has two children attached to him that belong on the
other branch of the family. I tried removing them but my great-grandfather
got removed instead. Is there any way other than entering all the
information to get him back again? Also what is the correct way to remove
children from a parent and put them where they belong?

Sent from my iPad

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Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry.....

[R G Strong-genes]

British North America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia this might help

From: W. Bruce Matson
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 9:00 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Data Entry.

Hello,
   Is there a more “correct” way of entering data for a person living during 
American Colonial times?
For example, a person living in York, Maine in 1661 wouldn’t technically be 
correct. Would it be better
to enter, York, York County (even though the County probably didn’t exist 
then), Maine, British Colonial/
North America? Certainly, the USA hadn’t been formed that early. .Any 
suggestions how others of you might deal with this.
   Thanks for any advice/input.

Bruce Matson
Mount Vernon, WA


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Re: [LegacyUG] Problem with living indicator

[R G Strong-genes]

Russ,
OptionsCustomize2.3 What Age to Presume a Person is Dead (ff )
If there is no death date when saving a record:
Ask if Living if over ?enter age  years
Set as dead if over ?enter age  Apply button
Press the Apply button and it will go through the family file and set the 
living indicater for those that meet the criteria.

From: Russ Tallman
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:10 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem with living indicator

Hello,
   I have been a Legacy user for quite some time. I am currently using Legacy 8 
with the latest build. I am having an issue with the living indicator.

Recently for some unknown reason all of the living people in my database are 
set to deceased (no death information is entered for them) whereas before they 
were set to living. I realized I can change each person individually however my 
database contains over 40,000 people which is very time consuming.

Does anyone know how I can fix this easier? I cannot find a setting to revert 
all people without death dates to living.

Russ


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Re: [LegacyUG] Couple Marries, Divorces, Re-Marries

[R G Strong-genes]

Diana,
Because it is an actual marriage there is no way to keep it from printing 
twice. The only other way for it not to print is to make that marriage private. 
You may put in a suggestion to them that they put an option in the report 
format to suppress the info if it is the same RIN .

From: 933e9...@opayq.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:07 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Couple Marries, Divorces, Re-Marries

When a couple has married and divorced, then re-married … is there a way to 
keep the report (I’m using the Descendant Book Report at the moment) from 
completely re-printing  the spouse information?  I tried the archives and 
couldn’t find anything, but maybe I didn’t use the right search terminology.



For instance, my parents are in this situation.  When I print a Descendant Book 
Report with my mother as the starting person, my father’s info prints with the 
1st marriage as it should, but then it prints it a second time with the second 
marriage to my mother.



It seems redundant and wastes ink and paper to completely re-print a page of 
information that is just above it.



Thank you!

Diana



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

[R G Strong-genes]

The only ones that you would have to unzip would be if you do the media backup 
which would be a different zip file.

From: Ron Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:27 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not syncing in Dropbox

Mike will probably answer this also.  The last message from Lavern said

Now it has C:DocumentsandSettings\user\
MyDocuments\Dropbox\lavernhallfamily\
2014-10-16 3:26 33PM\lavernhallfamily.fdb


This means that the fdb file is being accessed from inside the zip backup file 
which is in the Dropbox.  You will have problems with that.  Like Mike said, 
you should use Restore Family File inside of Legacy to unzip the backup data 
files and place them into the correct location.  Later when you backup again, 
you can point the backup zip files at the Dropbox.  It is just the restore that 
you are missing.  As Mike said, don't use the Windows unzip program but use the 
restore function inside of Legacy.





On Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:39 PM, Lavern Hall lavernh...@gmail.com wrote:




​Thanks Mike, I tried Legacy Restore on XP
computer and that also worked also. :-)


One other question​ please:  on the toolbar,
I clicked on File to see what family file name
appeared as my last accessed family file.
Usually it is C:\Legacy\Data\lavernhallfamily.fdb


Now it has C:DocumentsandSettings\user\
MyDocuments\Dropbox\lavernhallfamily\
2014-10-16 3:26 33PM\lavernhallfamily.fdb

Is this ok?  Thanks.

Lavern Hall






On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 16 Oct 2014 23:56, Elizabeth Cunningham wrote:

   I wish you would use a larger type.  On my machine it comes out almost
   too small to read - I can with a magnifying glass.

  What are you using to read the messages with. Try typing Ctrl-+

  --
  Regards,
  Mike Fry (Jhb)





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Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Merge issue

[R G Strong-genes]

Barton,
For the person showing 2 marriages the one to unlink would be the one that has 
no children attached to the marriage. The quickest way to go through the 
marriages of the individual is if it is male click on the bar that appears to 
the left of the husband when the mouse hovers over it or the right of the 
female. When you get to the one that has no children then right click on the 
Marriage box and choose the menu item to unlink husband or wife from the 
marriage if that results in a 2nd marriage with an Unknown spouse then choose 
the menu item “remove marriage link”.

From: BARTON LEWIS
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:59 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Cc: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FW: Merge issue

So if a person is showing as having 2 marriages, both to the same person, you 
unlink one of them?  Which one, does it matter?  Will it result in the children 
being unlinked from the parent, even though it's the correct parent (but a 
duplicate one)?  I don't understand how there can be a link to 2 people who are 
the same person, but there is only one person of that name in the database.  I 
tried to find an explanation for this in Help, but could not.

Thank you.

Barton




On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Kathy Meyer wrote:


  You have to unlink the one set.   I had this happen awhile back and it 
affected a few hundred marriages.  The group here helped me figure out the best 
way to go about getting rid of the duplicates and making sure they were all 
gone.  Very annoying bug but relatively simple to fix.

  Kathy

  On Monday, October 13, 2014, Barton Lewis bartonle...@optonline.net wrote:

This is the second time I have posted to the list and my post has not shown 
up.  Please let me know the issue with my posts not showing.  I am forwarding 
my original post from last night.



Thank you.



Barton Lewis



From: Barton Lewis [mailto:bartonle...@optonline.net]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:27 AM
To: 'LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com'
Subject: Merge issue



I merged a relative with his duplicate.  Now his parents are showing 2 
marriages – each to the same spouse, twice.  My relative has a section symbol 
after his name but his siblings don’t.  The parents aren’t showing up as 
duplicates in the index even though they are listed twice in the Spouse List.  
What’s going on here?  How can I get rid of the extra spouse?



Thanks,



Barton




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Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track

[R G Strong-genes]

You are wrong on this part! It is a Deluxe feature of both version 7.5 and v8 
where you can record the results of several different types of DNA tests. You 
get to it from the individual edit screen and click on the DNA icon on the 
right side of the screen below the Options button in 7.5 and below the Share 
button in v 8.

From: britton...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2014 12:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How best to keep track

There's essentially no place in Legacy 7.5 to record DNA data, but present 
major databases may be unavailable to my grandson (example Ancestry yDNA).  
Fields for Placeholders could perhaps be repurposed for much or all of that, 
notably aiding atDNA application to conventional genealogy search for 
connections.  Longitudinal study seems helped by the Placeholder approach in 
the time domain of Heraldry, for both research and record, regarding STR yDNA, 
with SNP data newly a factor.  For deeper genealogy, my grandson, a Britton, 
may want to know if he is Brythonic or got his surname some other way, and how 
he came to Britain from Adam in Africa while his mtDNA came here eastwards.   
Placeholders for that get to be rather long-lived, and time works backwards 
BCE.


Again, this is not what Legacy was designed for, but Millenium must be aware of 
increasing interest in such, so has a choice to limit Legacy to classic 
genealogy, modify it in a future version, or to produce, or link with, a 
companion.  Whatever choice, it may be useful for both Millenium and the 
community to experiment with Legacy's current flexibility to illuminate this 
area.   DNA is not going away, and we certainly need something better to 
preserve and communicate with than Gedcoms are now for classic genealogy.  If 
the Millenium choice is to ignore DNA, then a clear statement to that effect 
would keep posts like this off the List, especially if words to that effect 
were added to the Legacy User Group Guidelines.


kb

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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources from one project to another?

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
Yes, since she mentioned that she didn't want to reenter them I would assume
she meant that her sources were her templates that were filled in.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:15 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources from one project to another?

Cathy,

Won't that move what sources Marie entered in the other
file, not /just/ the template for data-entry?

Cheryl

Cathy Pinner wrote:
 Hi Marie,
 The sources of course will be converted to version 8 when you convert
 your various files.

 However, I think you are asking how you copy the Master Source list from
 one file to another as the files have a related topic even though the
 people aren't related so that they use many of the same sources.

 When you are in the file you want to copy sources to, go to View -
 Master Lists - open one of the Master Lists (may as well be sources
 since that is what we're talking about but it doesn't matter).
 When in the Master List, click Options and choose Import
 That will open a dialogue where you specify the Family File from which
 you want to copy the list and a place where you tick the lists you want
 to import. So you can import a Location list and/or Event Definitions
 etc as well as the Master Source list.

 For more help, click the Help button on that dialogue or search the Help
 index using Import and look for lists/Master lists in the sub-topics.

 Cathy
 mvmc...@aol.commailto:mvmc...@aol.com
 Friday, 29 August 2014 11:03 AM
 I have a variety of projects (I'm still working in 7.5). I want to
 move several volunteer projects, that I'm working on for the NJ
 Maritime Museum, into V8. They are not related people so I have them
 in separate files.
 They are actually people on ships wrecked off the coast of NJ. How can
 I move my source templates (I don't use source writer) from one
 project to another without having to re-enter them all?
 I've tried a split screen, which works, but it's very time consuming
 and this is all done as a volunteer. I hope there is a faster way.
 Also considered running all the names as one project but that didn't
 seem appropriate.
 Any suggestions?
 Marie

 Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL/
 Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C./

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Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-----was: Recovering after crash

[R G Strong-genes]

Whenever you unzip the mediazipped file you must extract it to the C: drive or 
the drive they were originally in and not a folder in the C: drive as the zip 
file contains the path of the file and will restore it to those same folders. 
If you were to unzip or “extract” them to a folder on the drive then it will 
add the original folder names to that folder as subfolders. This is probably 
why the program is not finding them as now they are in a different path. If 
this is what has happened then just go to the folder you unzipped it to and 
drag those subfolders to the root C: drive or the original drive.
Hope that helps, sorry you are having so much trouble with this.

From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:42 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash

Let's just say third time's a charm--thanks so much for putting up with my 
posts this evening!  --Paula



From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash


Continuing...  I aborted the program with Task Manager.
I re-restored the database.
I checked and the images were in the default v8 folder; i.e., under My 
Documents ... Media
The program still cannot find the images.
I ran Relink and it looked for the first image.  It found one, but the way 
the words on the screen read to me, it was asking me about a file in the OLD 
default location (under Program Files ... Pictures).  Is the wording just 
confusing?  I don't even have the Legacy folder anymore, let alone a Pictures 
folder.
I realize I sound helpless... perhaps it's just too late to be working on this 
task?
Thanks!
--Paula







From: Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2014 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Stuck in endless relink loop-was: Recovering 
after crash


HELP!  I'm caught in an endless relink and gather loop...!


I've finally recovered my more urgent apps, so I'm recovering Legacy now.
I downloaded v8 and installed it.
After one aborted restore (it restored the database on my external drive where 
the backup file resides),
I copied the backup file and the media backup file to the C:\My 
Documents\Legacy Family Tree folder... database into \Data and media into 
\Media.
I used Legacy 8 to restore the database... perfect.
I then tried a few times to unzip (same as extract all, right??).
A few surprise folders appeared... like the old C:\program files\Legacy 
structure.
Eventually, I just moved the entire \Pictures folder (all my image files were 
there) in under the Legacy Family Tree folder  renamed it \Media -- that 
unzipping always confuses me... why doesn't it just put the unzipped files into 
the same folder where the zipped file resides?  I digress.
I checked Options (Customize) and Legacy was looking for the files there...  
\Media
I ran Relink and it relinked 1019 files, which sounded about right.  (Why did 
it feel it had to search my whole computer, though?  All the files were right 
there in the default folder...??)
However, the images weren't relinked at all.  I tried pull one up and Legacy 
couldn't find it.  So, what did it link???
Sooo, I thought maybe I'm supposed to Gather them now??
I tried that, and then it got confusing...  I didn't like clicking yes for 
Legacy to MOVE the files, but I figured it would just find them all where they 
were since that's where they should be per the default folder designation.
I honestly don't know how many times I've clicked the relink because it seems 
to be coming up for every stinking image file in the gather process.  Is this 
right?
What's worse:  It doesn't stop--I can't exit out!

Can you please help me?  I'm stuck in this endless loop  cant' even close 
Legacy to start over.
Seriously, though, if the files are all in the default folder, why is the 
program having so much trouble?
Thanks in advance,
--Paula






From: Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Recovering after crash


Customer numbers are version specific. Contact sa...@legacyfamilytree.com or 
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com to confirm your customer number and which version 
you have last purchased.


There's no need to install v7.5 before installing v8. Just install the most 
recent build from our website. www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/DownloadLegacy.asp.


After installing Legacy, go to File  Restore to restore the data files. The 
media files need to be unzipped using the default program in Windows.

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Quality questions

[R G Strong-genes]

Yes, The document itself is original, however, the fact of her birth you would 
have to go by who supplied the data for the birth date to determine if it is 
Primary or Secondary evidence. If the provider of the info was not your 
grandmother or her parents then the data is not Primary source.

From: Paula Ryburn
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 6:17 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Quality questions

I'm working on a very focused research project, just one question, and doing it 
the right way per two recent Legacy webinars  the Geneal. Stds. book, to 
test out some of the new v8 functionality--namely Source Quality analysis on 
the Source Detail citations.  See how it works for this one person, then update 
the rest of my folks.

Research question is When was my grandmother born?
One document I have is the original Certificate of Registration of American 
Citizens, which lists my grandmother's birth date (among other things).
When entering the citation for her birth date, I was puzzled on the first 
Source Quality item:

Source - Original, Derivative, Authored or IDK.

At first I put IDK, because this document is not her birth certificate--not the 
first documentation of her birth date, and it's not a derivative as Legacy 
describes it on the screen or authored either.
Now I'm thinking I may have over-thought that.

It IS the original (not even a photo copy) of this certificate--even if the 
purpose of this document/certificate is not to record her birth date (at least 
not only).
So, I would indicate original in Legacy, right?

Thanks!
--Paula


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Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates

[R G Strong-genes]

Do not know that there is a problem since 427 IS the latest build for v8,
and the last build for v7.5 is 278

-Original Message-
From: Ray Rhoads
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 10:14 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates

The uninstall problem seems to have been solved.Thank you. My problem now is
that it will not download the the later builds. The desktop works fine I
have build 427 installed no problem.


Ray Rhoads

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2014 9:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates

Ray,

I understand you are using Legacy 8 and have installed it on both computers
from a disc. It sounds as if you have updated the program on the desktop but
you haven't updated it on the laptop.
Therefore when you try to open your family file on the laptop, you are
getting a message saying you need a later build.
Update the program on the laptop (either from the Home Tab OR by downloading
the Standard version from the website and running it) and your problem
should be over.
Note although you download the Standard Free version from the website, it is
the same installation file for the Deluxe. The difference is that the
Customer Number unlocks more features.

I'm not sure why people were telling you to install Legacy 7.  Confused I
think by you saying that both computers were running Windows 7.

Cathy

grayscot2 wrote:
 First re-install 7 to get an INSTALL.LOG file back, then go to the program
 file and find unwise.exe and click on it.   Then do what Michelle says.

 Presc
ott Smith
 presku...@yahoo.com

 
 From: Ray Rhoads [rhodo...@bellsouth.net]
 Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2014 10:28 AM
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Downloading updates

 I have loaded  Legacy8 Deluxe from disk to a laptop for use in an upcoming
 genealogy trip. The problem is it will not download the the updates from
 the original build. It will not let me transfer my file from my desktop
 saying the file is for a later build. To top it off I can not completely
 uninstall the program as I get the message “could not find
 INSTALL.LOG
 file”. What do I do to get this fixed? I am using Windows 7 on 
 both
 my
 desktop and laptop.

 Ray Rhoads
.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting to v8

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
Open v7.5 then open the file from within the program. If you have v8
installed then windows has set that program as the default program to open
your genealogy files when you double click them from windows explorer.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:26 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Converting to v8

I tried to open a v 7.5 database *IN* v7.5, and couldn't.
Why not?

I've got v7.5 installed where *I* wanted to put it, and v8
installed where *it* wanted to go.  Until yesterday, I could
still open v7.5 and use it.  Yesterday, I opened it, found
the database I wanted and double-clicked.  My options were
Abort, copy and convert to 8, just convert to 8. I chose abort.

NOT a merry man NOR a happy camper about that.

Cheryl


--
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program can be downloaded FREE at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114
Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Converting to v8

[R G Strong-genes]

If you opened it from within Legacy 7.5 there is no way that it would ask
you to convert it to Version 8, however it may as you to convert it to the
current version 7.5 if the file was created in an earlier version of the sw.
Which is what mine just did and converted it to the format of the current vs
of 7.5. Are you sure you tried to open it from 7.5 and not ver 8?

-Original Message-
From: R G Strong-genes
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 12:57 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Converting to v8

Cheryl,
Open v7.5 then open the file from within the program. If you have v8
installed then windows has set that program as the default program to open
your genealogy files when you double click them from windows explorer.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 11:26 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Converting to v8

I tried to open a v 7.5 database *IN* v7.5, and couldn't.
Why not?

I've got v7.5 installed where *I* wanted to put it, and v8
installed where *it* wanted to go.  Until yesterday, I could
still open v7.5 and use it.  Yesterday, I opened it, found
the database I wanted and double-clicked.  My options were
Abort, copy and convert to 8, just convert to 8. I chose abort.

NOT a merry man NOR a happy camper about that.

Cheryl

--
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P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
program can be downloaded FREE at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114
Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com .




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Re: [LegacyUG] Does mark as not spam do any good?

[R G Strong-genes]

Not necessarily true, as people have said if the email comes from yahoo, aol, 
etc. if they have changed their DMARC rules then they will be flagged as spam 
or junk even if you have the person in your contact list and the user group in 
your list. I will find the same group of user’s responses in my Spam folder 
even though I mark them as not spam.

From: Kelly Booth
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:40 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Does mark as not spam do any good?

Put the legacyusergroup email in your contacts.  That will stop it from going 
to spam.



On Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:33 PM, Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com wrote:




Eventually it works to mark them not spam but the senders addy is
also a factor. Just keep marking them not Spam G right now half my
email to the list is marked May not be from sender  but at least
it isn't in spam.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dee Ziegler dee.zieg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some, not all, LUG posts are in my gmail spam filter every day. I routinely
 click the BOX on them, MARK as not spam, then later read them in my inbox
 -- instead of deleting directly from spam. Does that do any good?

 I get very few actual spam messages, perhaps one or two a day. Browser is
 Chrome, if that matters. Dee
 




--
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can be downloaded FREE at
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry findagrave

[R G Strong-genes]

All of their sites were hit with a denial of service attack which is keeping 
them off line.

From: Lloyd Hite
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:07 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestry  findagrave

On 6/17/2014 9:57 AM, Bill wrote:

  All of a sudden I can't get into Ancestry.com or findagrave.com from legacy 
or from the internet. Does anybody know if something is going on since ancestry 
bought findagrave.
  Â
  Bill


Maybe they are setting it up to start charging us to access findagrave.

Lloyd



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Re: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

[R G Strong-genes]

Learned something new, I ran it and found 10 individuals with no birth or
death dates and it used the spouses and/or siblings bithdates to set it.
Some of those had no marriage dates but all had either spouse or siblings
with a birthdate. When you click on the ToolsAdvanced Set Living it askes
the same question as in the Customize 2.3 that I referred to previously.

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 6:53 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

If you have the Deluxe version, you can use the Tool - Advanced Set
Living. This takes in more parameters than the automatic change to dead
on save. It should mark your couple married in the 1700s dead.
The Advanced Set Living tool is one of those to run periodically. It
supplies a list of anyone it changes from Living to Dead.

Cathy

 R G Strong-genes mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com
 Wednesday, 4 June 2014 2:21 AM
 Cheryl,
 Where did the program ask for marriage parameters? In version 8,
 Customize
 setting 2.3 is where you set the Age to resume a Person is Dead. For
 this to
 do so, as I said previously the individual must have a date entered in
 the
 birth field (not sure about the chr field) for it to work on entry or
 when
 you Apply to the Set as dead if over ? field.

 -Original Message-
 From: singhals
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:50 PM
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

 Since the program asked me for parameters with the marriage
 date with it could assume living, I /assumed/ that if the
 marriage occurred in the 1700s, the program would use that
 instead of a death date to mark the couple not-living.

 It doesn't seem to. So, Should it be?

 If not, then why'd it ask?


 Cheryl


--
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program can be downloaded FREE at
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Re: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
There must be a date in the birth field for it to assume that they are dead.
No date no calculation can be performed.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

Since the program asked me for parameters with the marriage
date with it could assume living, I /assumed/ that if the
marriage occurred in the 1700s, the program would use that
instead of a death date to mark the couple not-living.

It doesn't seem to.  So, Should it be?

If not, then why'd it ask?


Cheryl




--
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program can be downloaded FREE at
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Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
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Re: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
Where did the program ask for marriage parameters? In version 8, Customize
setting 2.3 is where you set the Age to resume a Person is Dead. For this to
do so, as I said previously the individual must have a date entered in the
birth field (not sure about the chr field) for it to work on entry or when
you Apply  to the Set as dead if over ? field.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 12:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] not living triggers

Since the program asked me for parameters with the marriage
date with it could assume living, I /assumed/ that if the
marriage occurred in the 1700s, the program would use that
instead of a death date to mark the couple not-living.

It doesn't seem to.  So, Should it be?

If not, then why'd it ask?


Cheryl

--
Russell G. Strong
P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
program can be downloaded FREE at
http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114
Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Combining family files

[R G Strong-genes]

Marie,
Usually, when you merge the files if there are duplicate people and all fields 
are the same they will automerge, however, if any field is different then you 
will get a manual merge screen where you can tell Legacy which fields to keep 
or discard. Be sure to scroll down if there are bars showing. Then you can copy 
notes and or source citations from left individual to the right individual. For 
more info see the help file on merging files and individuals. As far as CLOOZE 
is concerned, if the files use the same sources then it should point to the 
same source if not then you probably will have to update those file ID fields 
with the correct info. It all depends on your filing system that you are using.

From: mvmc...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:29 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Combining family files



Question.  If you use that procedure what happens to your source citations?

I use CLOOZ and my sources are numbered and the number placed in the Detail 
screen; File ID field of Legacy. Each family would have a Birth 001, Birth 002 
etc.  I'm assuming each item would have to be hand re-numbered?

Marie

Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
---
CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are service
marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under license by
Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.

In a message dated 5/28/2014 8:02:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
emjay...@gmail.com writes:
  On 28 May 2014 13:11, cdmill...@frontier.com wrote:

   I have separate family files that I wish to combine, but still keep the 
original
   files.  These pertain to grandparents who were both Millers.  The new file 
would
   be called Miller/Miller, but I would still have the originals named Daniel
   Miller and Mary Miller.  Can someone advise me how to begin?  Sure 
appreciate
   your help.

  Open one of the files. Note that the titlebar reflects the name of the open
  file. Now, save it using the combined file name, using the File-- Save File 
As
  command. the titlebar now gives the new combined file name. Next, you can 
import
  the second Legacy file into your new combined file.

  --
  Regards, Mike Fry
  Johannesburg




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
You can search the Archives for “Source conversion” and you will find Geoff’s 
message on how to do this. The message is dated Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:03”58 –0700

I found it by going to the Legacy Home tab and clicked on the Legacy News 
hyperlink then on the next screen on the right hand side in the box for Search 
this Site I entered “Source conversion” then on the search results screen click 
on the second entry “Legacy News: Legacy Family Tree update available 
(7.0.0.55), then in the paragraph talking about the “official” Source 
Conversion tool, there is a hyper link “Click here for the archived message.” 
and it will take you to that message.

From: Cheryl Rothwell
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 2:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources

I started out with Basic Sources. There are still close to 400 of them. Is 
there any way to convert them to Source Writer?

In the alternative, suggestions for redoing them all while retaining the links 
and remaining sane?


--
Russell G. Strong
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can be downloaded FREE at
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Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!.
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Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]....????

[R G Strong-genes]

Elizabeth,
Be aware that if you have attached any media to your family file that those
images are in a different zip file that has the family file name-media in
the zip file name. So you would have to send them that file also and they
would have to Extract those files to their C: drive, as legacy stores the
directory path name with the file. So if you have your images in subfolders
to your main image folder then it will create those directories if they do
not exist on their drive (that is why it is better not to store images that
you use for Legacy in the my pictures folder that windows creates as the
path to my documents and my pictures folders are unique to your user name.)

If you do not care if they have the images to the file then just send the
one zip file. All of this info can be found in the help files under Sharing
family file topic

-Original Message-
From: Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [1][1][1]

Elizabeth,
No question is silly if you don't know the answer.

It doesn't matter where they save the zip file so long as they can
navigate to it with the Legacy File  Restore dialogue. So they have to
know WHERE it is but it doesn't matter where it is.

They should choose a sensible place to save the restored file - like
C:\Legacy\Data which is the default folder for Legacy 7.5. That it's the
default folder doesn't necessarily mean saving in that folder is
automatic. Remind them to look at where the file is going to be saved
before clicking the Save button. Different versions of windows have
slightly different layouts for this dialogue but they all include an
address bar of some sort showing where the file will be saved and the
means for changing this place.

Cathy

 elizabeth mailto:newi...@gmail.com
 Thursday, 22 May 2014 10:45 AM
 One final (I hope) silly question, but I want to make sure I do this
 correctly...

 When they receive the .zip file, should they save it to the
 C:/Legacy/Data file or to the C:/Legacy/Backups file..or doesn't
 it matter where they save it?

 Elizabeth

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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I find a specific Event ID #?

[R G Strong-genes]

Heeren,
The easiest way to fix it is to go to the View tab, Master Lists and pick the 
Event Definition from the list. In the list you will find Fix this Event Type
highlight that in the list and then click the button Show List to see who has 
the event so you can jog your memory of what the event is.

As for the Tagging if you have the Deluxe version you can display any three 
tags you wish. Go to the Advanced Taging screen Cntrl-T and change which tags 
to show on the Name list in the lower right hand corner there is a button to do 
this.
From: Heeren
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 4:48 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I find a specific Event ID #?

I have spent most of the day working on a problem in Legacy 8.0.0.427.

It started with the discussion here about unlinking disproved people/lines.  
Which made me think that I would really like to have the program put some kind 
of color/letter/designation of some kind next to people that you unlink since 
they show up in the Name List  when you are looking to see if someone you just 
found is already in your file it would let you know which ones are in or out.

Made the suggestion.  Was told how to do it with tagging.

Did the tagging, using tag#4 only to discover that only the first 3 tags show 
on the Name List...I knew that...

So...cleared out tag#2, tagged the unlinked people with #2, listed them again  
went to each one to click on tag#4 to remove it.

EXCEPT...I came to my 6th Great Grandparents...they are unlinked.  My 5th 
G-Grandmother is shown as their daughter, she shows them as her parents.  The 
have a marriage date, they are shown as married...BUT...he is listed as my 6th 
G-Grandfather but she has no relationship shown at all and they come up as 
unlinked.

So, I started delving into that when I realized that first I should do a 
Check/Repair of the file since a new update was added just days ago.

Did that...I coming to it...have patience...

The first item in the Error.Log says:

There are 1 Event Name record (s) referred to that have a blank event name.

We have added a new Event Definition '!Fix this Event Type-1' and the following 
records now point to this new Event Definition.  From the Master Event 
Definition List you can edit this record and change it to the correct value.

Event ID=5295, Event Definition Name=, Event Location=, Event Desc=.  The Event 
Definition Name is now '!Fix this Event Type-1'

I know I'm getting old and am aging even faster today but, would some kind soul 
please tell me how to find Event ID 5295?  None of the searches I have turned 
up seem to work with event numbers.

Thank you for your patience,
Sally



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Re: [LegacyUG] Child Status

[R G Strong-genes]

Merrelyn,
By using the child status it will also show on the family view screen and can 
be included in some reports and the child status line can also be sourced. 
Stillborn and Twin are in the default family file, so you would have to add any 
other status labels you would want to use.

From: Merrelyn Bates
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:06 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Child Status

I have been slowly working through Geoff's book and just discovered the 
relationship of child to father and mother. Above that is 'Child Status', which 
when opened has two categories: 'Stillborn', 'Twin'. I understand that the list 
can be added to with other terms, e.g. 'triplet', 'Death shortly after birth', 
etc. My question is: Would one normally use this attribute? If so, how?

Thank you.

Merrelyn Bates


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Re: [LegacyUG] pdf's

[R G Strong-genes]

I have Adobe Acrobat XI reader which is free and that is probably what she has 
downloaded.

From: Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 11:04 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] pdf's

Before we confuse anybody, Adobe Acrobat XI is the full program which allows 
you to create and edit PDF files and sells for $299 for the standard edition. 
Adobe Acrobat Reader is a freebie but only allows you to view and read PDFs. I 
still find it strange why Legacy could not open your PDF files using your old 
Acrobat v5.x yet you could open them directly from Windows. Oh well, maybe the 
new installation configured things properly.



On a side note, can anybody tell me if Legacy v8 updated it’s PDF writer or is 
it still creating PDFs in a very old format (which seems to work for most 
purposes)?





Brian in CA







From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:15 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] pdf's



Hi Brian,

When I checked on updated on Acrobat 10 it told me there were no updates. After 
your remark I checked the net and found XI - downloaded it and he presto all is 
back to normal. Everything is opening in Adobe XI on my files and in Legacy!

In answer to your comment concerning right clicking - all of the files could be 
right clicked and could all be opened with Wrier 5 - it was only when I tried 
to open them in Legacy did it become a problem.

Thank you for letting me know about the update - I have it ticked to let me 
know when there are updates but for some strange reason Adobe did not tell me 
there were an updates even in the Help section!

All seems sorted for present - thank you for your time in assisting - it is 
appreciated.

Marion



On 6 May 2014 23:40, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

The current version of Adobe Acrobat (the full program, not Acrobat Reader) is 
version 11. You apparently have an old version 5. Depending upon how the .PDF 
was created to allow for backward compatibility will affect whether or not you 
can open one of the new .PDF files. For example, if I create a new PDF in 
Acrobat 11 and allow for backward compatibility only to version 9, you MAY not 
be able to open the file. However, my brain cells are telling me that you 
should get a warning or error message about version incompatibility rather than 
an error message about a damaged file. I believe that Adobe was smart in that 
regard but I really don’t know about Acrobat v5.x. If you were to download and 
use any one of the freebie or shareware PDF writer programs, maybe that would 
solve your problem.



In Legacy 7. 5, the internal PDF creator will create a PDF file which is an 
older Acrobat 3.x version. The engine and code used is under a license 
agreement with ComponentOne PDF Generator. So far I have had no difficulty 
opening any of the Legacy created PDFs with Acrobat 11 but I suspect that no 
special features are being used in the Legacy created PDF which could possibly 
cause a version incompatibility. The only problem I’ve seen with the Legacy 
created PDFs is the bloated file size. I usually open the Legacy created PDF in 
Acrobat 11 and then resave as a reduced file size which typically results in a 
reduction of around one-third the original file size.



Oh, in re-reading your message, you might try this. Go back to the folder where 
the PDF resides and instead of double clicking on the file or icon which you 
have set to automatically open with the Acrobat READER program, try right 
clicking on the file and select OPEN WITH…   If your Acrobat Writer 5.0 program 
does not appear in a list of possible programs that Windows is suggesting, you 
may have to browse to the Program Files folder to locate the Acrobat executable.



Brian in CA







From: 2marion wimps [mailto:2wi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 1:34 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] pdf's



Small problem. I have Adobe Acrobat Writer 5 and Acrobat Reader 10. I only use 
the Writer to open documents if I need to do something special with them.

Default for pdf's is set as Adobe Reader (10).



When the pdf's are on my Desktop or anywhere in the computer, including in the 
Family Tree Folder where all media are stored, when I open them they 
automatically open with Adobe Reader (10).



When I attach them to the person concerned via the Media Gallery and try to 
open them from there they open in Adobe Acrobat Writer (5) which opens a 
message There was an error opening this document. The file is damaged and 
could not be repaired:.



I cannot stop it opening with the Writer (5) if I go back to the Folder itself 
it still opens correctly with Reader (10).



I have run a File Maintenance but nothing changed.



Help, suggestions please - I cannot find anything in the Help files so far.



I am using Windows 7 and Legacy De Luxe 8.



Thanks, Marion



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Re: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date

[R G Strong-genes]

the correct recognized date is “From 1980”

From: Howlanddavisii
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 3:40 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Potential Problem - Unrecognized Event Date

 In trying to clean up my Potential Problems, my sister has an unrecognized 
event date.  I am trying to say that she worked at her present position from 
1980 - present.  If I want to say that, how do I do so?  Should I not have 
spaces around the dash (similar to actual dates), do I leave present out or 
do I just say that's what I want and exclude it?

Howland Davis



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Re: [LegacyUG] Report questions.

[R G Strong-genes]

Cindy,
See below

-Original Message-
From: magnoliasouth
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 2:17 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Report questions.

Hello all,

I have two report questions.




The solution, I think is just putting it in the clipboard and stamping
over the older stuff. That's fine, but the problem is how can I get a
Source Detail report to see which ones I need to fix?

Go to Reports menuOther Tabunder Miscellaneous Reports click link Source
Citations and then tick what you want to Include and check the Options tab
for other options for the report.

The second question is a location and time thing. Is there a way to
find who all lived in a certain place at a certain time? Let's say I'm
looking for anyone that lived in Texas in 1830. How would I search for
that? It could be birth, or death, or marriage or residence or
anything. They just have to be in Texas in 1930. I was hoping to find
a location timeline but I don't see anything like that.


This one may be a bit tricky but you could try finding all people that have
a date for 1830:

open Search Look for whom=Individual, Where to look= Any Date, How to
look=Contains, What to look for=1830
tick Second Condition Or Look for whom?=Marriage, Where to look=Marriage
Date, How to look=Contains, What to look for=1830
un-tick third conditions
Clear List before this search
Create List

for the next one you need to have an empty tag number
go to Advanced Tagging and under Advanced Tagging tic Tag Make changes on #
choose a tag number then Click on Everyone in Search list.

Next
Look for whom?=Individual, Where to look=Tag # that you used above, How to
look=Equal To, What to look for=Tagged
Second Condition And
Individual, Birth Place, contains, Texas
Third Condition Or
Individual, Death Place,contains, Texas

Clear List before this search
Create List

if the list contains any individuals without the tag you selected then don't
use the Third condition and rerun the search
if that was not the case and they all had the tag number you assigned then
you will now need to do another search but this time
you will be adding the results to Existing List and changing the second and
third conditions
if you had to not do a third condition then you will have to do extra
searches to find the place fields that were missed without the third
condition so..

Second condition and
IndividualChr PlacecontainsTexas
Third Condition Or
IndividualBurial PlaceContainsTexas
tic Add results to existing List
Create List

next
Second condition And
IndividualEvent PlacecontainsTexas
Third Condition Or
MarriageMarriage PlacecontainsTexas
Add results to existing List
Create List

and the last place to check would be MarriageMarr.
Event-PlacecontainsTexas

again add to existing List and create list. I think you may have to not do
the Third condition for all of the searches as it may select those you don't
want so it may be better to have only the primary being the tag # and the
2nd condition the place you want to find from all of those that I entered
above.
Once you have searched all the place fields for the above criterion then go
to the advanced tagging and choose another tag to tag everyone in search
list or if you do not have another tag available you can untag everyone with
the one you used before and then Tag Everyone in Search List with the one
you just cleared.
Now you have the people you want with the tag you want. While the Advanced
Tagging screen is open you can put a description in the tag number so when
you scroll over the tag number it will remind you of what is used for.

hope this helps





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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging

[R G Strong-genes]

SearchLook for whom: Individual, Where to look: Tag 5, How to look: Equal
To, What to look for: Untagged
Clear List before this search. Create List
From list click on OptionAdvanced Tagging
on the advanced tagging screen tic Tag, Make changes to Tag 6, Click on
button Everyone in Search List.


-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:46 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tagging


I want to tag everyone who doesn't have a tag5 with a tag6
regardless of other tags.

Can do?

Cheryl


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Re: [LegacyUG] Location merging

[R G Strong-genes]

The first thing you could do is to go to the Master location list and on the
right side click the Options button and pick Purge unused. This will
eliminate all the locations that are not being used by anyone in your file.


 Sumter is all over the place and some location entries
don't even have anything else in them.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Female font colour on main view

[R G Strong-genes]

Goto the Options tab. Change Colors button. Click on one of the children. A 
window will open where you can change the text colors for male, female, and 
unknown.

From: Noddie
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 7:57 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Female font colour on main view

Hello

I have just downloaded Legacy 8 deluxe and cannot figure out how to change the 
colour of the text for the females in the family view.
Hope someone could guide me with this.

Thanks so much
Gwen




Land of the long white cloud -New Zealand




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Re: [LegacyUG] unsupscribe

[R G Strong-genes]

Ann,
You cannot unsubscribe by sending a message to the list to do it. You must use 
the link at the bottom of the email on the last line.

From: Ann Brown
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] unsupscribe


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Re: [LegacyUG] Bad job of installing

[R G Strong-genes]

Jane,
When you open your family file, what name shows at the top of your screen in
the windows title bar? It should say Legacy - [name of family file]. If it
says Legacy Another Format 1-19-14 2014 then that is why all your backups
say that. To fix it go to the File tab and click on Rename File and rename
your family file to what you want. Now on that same tab click on Backup File
and when the Backup window opens click on the Options button on the bottom
of the screen and there will be two boxes you can check, first one is to
append the date to the end of the backup file name and the other box is to
Append the time to the end of the file name. You can have any combination of
boxes checked. If all of your backups have the same name then I would assume
that both of those boxes are unchecked. After that you should be good to go.
If you have backed up the media then those also probably are saved as the
name above with a -media at the end of the file name. If you wish to keep
your old backups you could rename the part of the old file name and change
that part to the new file name.

-Original Message-
From: Jane Sarles
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 12:33 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Bad job of installing

I keep thinking I installed V. 8 badly, and I keep finding problems that
make me think so.

Now I find that my backups all are saved under the title, Legacy
Another Format 1-19-14 2014  no matter what date I save them.  I have
backups saved on March 23 that still say the January date.  And I can't
tell one from the other - there are several in my Legacy Backup folder
all of the same name.  And in the Backup Options box I tried to change
the name of the backup to Main Family File .  but it still says the
another format t

This is a grand mess and I am sorry I ever left V. 7.

How can I get started straightening this out.  I have no idea how much
data I may have lost.  I am just not very good with doing the tecnical
stuff.

Pretty disgusted.

Jane Sarles
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Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring picture links

[R G Strong-genes]

Morris,
All the media file backup will do is restore the media to their original 
location it will not restore the links in the family file. The easiest way 
would be to save your current file with a different name or save it as a copy 
with a different name and then restore your family file from the backup that 
has the links. After it has been restored to the point before you deleted the 
links go to the copy of your family file then search for those individuals that 
you changed: search for individual what to look for” change date equal to a 
date after the point of your last backup then tag the search list. You can then 
export all the tagged individuals to a new file or import only the tagged 
individuals into your current file.

From: M Sonnier
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 12:50 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restoring picture links

I have a backup of the Family file from Last night and prior.  I have put so 
much information since, it may be better to manually relink the pics.


Can I back the file now.  Then take the last backed up media file and change 
the name to match the data file.  Then restore.  Would it accept or reject the 
media file?


Morris
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:41 AM, Sherry/Support 
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

Morris,

The pictures are still where they were. The links in the Family File
have been removed.

Do you have a backup of the Family File? That's what you'd need to restore.

Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 6:32 AM, M Sonnier oldbiloxiho...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Mistakenly unattached all of my pictures.  Meant to unlink unreferenced
 Media Folders.  Instead of clicking Proceed, I clicked on Unlink all media
 files.

 I am using version 7.5.0.278.  Is there a way to restore the links from a
 previous media backup.  I could restore everything, but that would overwrite
 the data I have input over the last 3 hours.  I know I should have backed up
 the file before this procedure, but that option is too late.

 Morris



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Re: [LegacyUG] ISO labor-lite suggestions re tagging

[R G Strong-genes]

Cheryl,
If you did not assign a source to those individuals you keyed in then there
is no way of doing what you are asking other then to do the page by page
look up. However, if you did assign a source then you could just tag all
those individuals or marriages that are assigned that master source. Once
you have done that, then you could do an advanced search:
What to searchindividual
how to search  not equal to which ever tag you assigned to the ones that
had the source.

That should give you a list of those that you didn't source the book. You
could then assign them a different tag number that you can then look them up
to see if they are in the book or not.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 5:42 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] ISO labor-lite suggestions re tagging

Database/familyfile of ~15,000 persons and  5100 marriages.
ORIGINALLY created by keying in the contents of a genealogy
book.  First done in PAF5, then ported to Legacy 7 and then
to 8.

Everyone in the book ought to be in the db/ff.
Unfortunately, while documenting those people, I've added
people who should have been in the book but aren't
(siblings, children, parents).

It's too late to tell me I should've thought of this sooner,
so we can skip that part of the class.

I need a *quick* way to tag maybe 25% in the db/ff who
aren't in the book.

I /can/ hypothetically sit here with the book in one hand
and page through it again finding and tagging those people.
  I suspect the Galaxy will atrophy before I could finish
that because apparently I have to have the person in the
primary position to click a tag. 5 marriages took close to
2 hours.

I considered the tag family, but that'll end up tagging
everyone, including a sibling and descendants who aren't in
the book.

I can find /some/ by the omission of the import source. That
won't help the ones added prior to moving it into Legacy.
Ideas welcomed here.

Cheryl
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Re: [LegacyUG] Family File Information Notes

[R G Strong-genes]

Have you tried the Compiler info screen which applies to the whole database: 
OptionsEdit Compiler there is a Comments section that you could use to enter 
that info and a check box if you want it to show or not.

From: Ron Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 11:54 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family File Information Notes

I posed it as a question but if the feature does not already exist I will 
submit it as a suggestion.  I've wanted it for some time but haven't been able 
to find it anywhere.
Ron Taylor
On Saturday, March 29, 2014 9:08 AM, Kathy Meyer kmeyer2...@gmail.com wrote:

This would be very helpful.  Is this a suggestion for the future?  Or does this 
already exist in legacy?

Kathy Meyer


On Saturday, March 29, 2014, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I thought there was a place to record general information about a database.  
The logical place would be a notes field in Family File Information.  Somewhere 
that a preface to the database might be recorded including any rules or 
special conditions which relate to the entire database.  Example of possible 
general information...

  1) This database was originally a combination of records from Joseph Winget, 
Julia Seagrave, and Lawrence Regan as of 21 Aug 2004.
  2) Spouses who married more than once have marriage source Duplicate 
Marriage in database.
  3) Members of the Winget Family Association have source WFA Member.
  4) Dates like Cal 1905 are calculated from evidence versus Abt 1905 which 
are estimated.
  5) LDS Blessings are entered as event LDS Blessing and not entered in the 
christening fields.
  6) All group sheets connected to the direct line should be complete including 
parents of husband and wife, all children, and spouses of children.

  There could be more that the compiler wants to document about the database.  
A generic source record might be created but it would have to be linked to some 
individual to avoid it being purged as an unused source.
  Ron Taylor





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Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple versions installed?

[R G Strong-genes]

Bob,
I am running Widows7, 32-bit for Legacy 8: and my Legacy8.lic is in 
C:\Users\UserName\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData
and the main program folder under C:\Program Files is Legacy8 not Legacy. and 
these are from the default installation.

I believe the location of the main program is what is different:
Widows7, 32-bit for Legacy 8: The main file is in the folder C:\Program 
Files\Legacy8\
Windows7, 64-bit for Legacy 8: The main file is in the folder C:\Program 
Files386\Legacy8\ I don’t have this so am not sure of the program folder’s name.

From: Genealogy Bob
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Multiple versions installed?

Reposting.  Earlier version was sent without Bold emphasis


Thanks again to all.


Renaming the Legacyx.lic file does the trick.  But a few clarifying notes:


Windows7, 32-bit and 64-bit for Legacy7:  The Legacy7.lic file is in the folder 
C:\Program Files\Legacy\

Widows7, 32-bit for Legacy 8: The Legacy8.lic file is in the folder C:\Program 
Files\Legacy\
Windows7, 64-bit for Legacy 8: The Legacy8.lic file is in the folder 
C:\Users\UserName\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData


These values are based on default installation paths.



On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:

  The answer to reverting Deluxe to Standard is
  simple on the one hand and complex on the other.

  The simple answer. Delete or move your
  Legacy8.lic file found in Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData

  The complex answer.
  It was possible to install Legacy 7 more than
  once on the same computer for the same user by 1)
  Renaming the installation file to LegacyNew.exe
  and then choosing a different folder to install to.
  This was possible because the user settings were
  kept in the Program Folder - which is why on
  later versions of Windows, Legacy 7 could not be
  installed to the Windows Programs Folder.

  Legacy 8 is different. Legacy 8 by default is
  installed to the Windows Program Folder.
  The Legacy 8 user settings are not kept in the
  Program folder but in  ...username/Documents/Legacy Family Tree/_AppData

  The result is that even if you rename the
  installation folder as LegacyNew.exe and choose
  to install it into a different folder, the USER
  SETTINGS are STILL in the same folder - so it
  will open knowing your deluxe status and your preferred family file etc etc.

  So, you can have ANOTHER user account on your
  computer and switch to that to run the same
  installation of Legacy with different settings.
  Two people who use the same computer but sign in
  with different user accounts can have completely
  different settings for Legacy 8 though Legacy 8
  has only been installed once on the computer.

  Or you can just delete, move or rename the
  Legacy8.lic file to revert to standard. Renaming
  it is probably the easiest. You need to close and reopen Legacy.

  Note that beta testers can switch on and off the
  Deluxe version of the program while within the
  program but it isn't envisaged that ordinary users would want to do that.

  Cathy






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Re: [LegacyUG] A simple place-name question

[R G Strong-genes]

Roger,
I use the following website, it may help
I use British America for the location depending on the time frame or New 
France, etc, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_America

From: Roger Lamprey
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 10:09 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] A simple place-name question

When recording the place of an event, we should record it as it was at the time 
of the event, rather than as it would be referred to today.

In that case, how should we refer to the American Colonies as a group for 
events taking place before the United States became a nation (maybe just 
American Colonies?). And, at what date did the crossover from that name to 
United States take place?

Thanks!

Roger Lamprey




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Re: [LegacyUG] Master sources

[R G Strong-genes]

Be aware that you only get that message if that source is already being used
otherwise it will overwrite that source if no citation is being used. Make
sure you choose one that is being used already.

-Original Message-
From: Michele/Support
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:17 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Master sources

Yes, I do it all the time but you need to be VERY careful when you do this.
Bring up the source you want to use but alter.  Click Edit over on the right
side.  Make the changes you need.  Now click Save.  Make sure that you
select   2. APPLY THE CHANGES TO A NEW COPY OF THIS MASTER SOURCE.

You don't want to accidentally pick the first option or you will overwrite
the one you already have and then you will have a mess.

Make sure that you don't forget to change the NAME of the source too.


Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com

-Original Message-
From: Graham Love [mailto:love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:11 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Master sources

Hi - a simple question but one which confounds me at the moment. I have to
create numerous new sources which are similar (Single county parish
registers where only the name of the parish is different but the origin of
the source is different). Is it possible to copy a master source? Then I
could just change the name and origin.
Graham

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Re: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

[R G Strong-genes]

Ted,
I would say that the photo is the record of your personally read headstone, and 
the cemetery is the source and/or the repository of those headstones.

From: Poppke Genealogy
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:16 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

Graham,

Thank you.  I considered this approach.

My concern is;

If I take a couple of photos of a monument, say to get a closer shot of each 
spouse, do I end up having a bunch of sources, say Pic01.jpg, Pic02.jpg, and 
Pic03.jpg?  Are individual photos my sources, or is the collection of photos 
gathered together from one cemetery trip and stored together (digitally) my 
source?

If I went this route, I would cite my source as a photo album of tombstone 
photos and have a photo album for each cemetery.  That is how I store them now.

My hierarchy on my storage drive is Country - State - County - City - Cemetery 
Name - Date

I believe that photos are just a method of transcription.  They can limit some 
types of errors.

Thanks,

Ted




From: love-fam...@blueyonder.co.uk
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:46:20 +


Slightly tongue in cheek but my favourite quote at the moment is from Geoff - 
'What have you got in your hand?'. The answer in this case is a photograph so 
that should be the source and the source detail self evident. Cemetery burial 
records would be another source. Just a thought.

Graham



From: Poppke Genealogy [mailto:ad...@poppkegenealogy.com]
Sent: 11 March 2014 00:05
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?



Hello,

I photograph during cemetery trips and use the images as a source without 
transcription.

I'm planning on listing the cemetery as the source, and record tombstone 
details as the various source details.

Are there pros and cons to doing it this way?  Would like some comments before 
I start.

Thanks,

Ted




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Re: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

[R G Strong-genes]

I use the Cemetery recordsCompiled records: database online template for those 
like at rootsweb and if they are for those from find a grave then I use the
InternetWebsite, generic with a new source for each contributor to that 
Cemeteries find a grave memorials. So I may have several find a grave sources 
for a cemetery but different contributors and each contributors memorials would 
be the citation.

From: Marli Yoder
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:47 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

What source would you use for cemetery information from a cemetery website?(I 
use the cemetery, compiled, website one) I also have the headstone picture. I 
like the grave marker etc. source.  Would it be entered as a separate event?

Marli Yoder
A  M Farms
Eureka  Sturgeon Missouri

From: Michele/Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?


Here is how I do it.  I record the source using this template….

Cemetery Records  Grave Markers, Plaques, Tombstones, Monumental Inscriptions 
 Grave Markers, Rural (most of mine are rural)


Here is how my citation looks:

Pine Grove Baptist Church Cemetery (Lamar County, Mississippi), Eliza J. 
Barefoot marker, personally read, 2001.


I then attach the photograph of the marker to the cemetery event.




Michele
Technical Support
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
www.LegacyFamilyTree.com


From: Poppke Genealogy [mailto:ad...@poppkegenealogy.com]
Sent: 11 March 2014 00:05
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

Hello,

I photograph during cemetery trips and use the images as a source without 
transcription.

I'm planning on listing the cemetery as the source, and record tombstone 
details as the various source details.

Are there pros and cons to doing it this way?  Would like some comments before 
I start.

Thanks,

Ted



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Re: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

[R G Strong-genes]

Ted,
That should be the preferred way of doing it. I have this for one of my master 
sources:

Using Source Writer template Cemetery recordsGrave markers, plaques, 
tombstones, monumental inscriptionsGrave markers, urban or the rural

Michigan, St. Joseph, Constantine - Constantine Township Cemetery Headstones

Footnote/Endnote Citation:
Constantine Township Cemetery (Constantine, Saint Joseph County, Michigan).

Subsequent Citation:
Constantine Township Cemetery (Constantine, Michigan).

Bibliography:
Constantine Township Cemetery (Constantine, Saint Joseph County, Michigan). 
Grave markers.

I create a repository for the cemetery and use that as the repository of the 
source. If you have an image of the cemetery or map of the cemetery you can ad 
that image in the repository screen also.

this is how the citation reads for an individual Ray H. Wing:

Footnote/Endnote Citation:
Constantine Township Cemetery (Constantine, Saint Joseph County, Michigan), Ray 
H. Wing marker; personally read, 5 Sep 2011;
Phil. 1:21 Wing
Kittie C.Ray H.
1893-1968   1892-1969
For me to live is christ and to die is gain.

Subsequent Citation:
Constantine Township Cemetery (Constantine, Michigan), Ray H. Wing marker.

Bibliography:
Constantine Township Cemetery (Constantine, Saint Joseph County, Michigan). 
Grave markers.

FYI
I put the transcription in the Text area with a blank line as the first line so 
that there is a carriage return after the semi colon otherwise the first line 
appears right after it. I would put any other special info like the condition 
of the grave marker in the Comment section.

From: Poppke Genealogy
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:05 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Question - Cemetery or Tombstone as the source?

Hello,

I photograph during cemetery trips and use the images as a source without 
transcription.

I'm planning on listing the cemetery as the source, and record tombstone 
details as the various source details.

Are there pros and cons to doing it this way?  Would like some comments before 
I start.

Thanks,

Ted



--
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can be downloaded FREE at
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Re: [LegacyUG] Still using 7,5 for some files

[R G Strong-genes]

Anne,
When you get the message to convert you need to say yes as the 7.5 file was 
created with an earlier version of it so you need to have it convert it to it’s 
7.5 version

From: Anne Hollingshead
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 11:32 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Still using 7,5 for some files

Sorry, I will correct an error

I should have said that I opened Legacy 7.5. which I have in a different part 
of my computer. - S:

I have 8 in C:  I converted 2 files that I work on often to 8 in C:

and left the rest in the 7.5 data file on S:

I am now trying to work with some old files in 7.5 in S:

Anne



On 10/03/2014 2:09 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote:

  Sorry I should have said that I opened Legacy 7.5. which I have in a 
different part of my computer. - S:

  I have 8 in C:  I converted 2 files that I work on often to 8 and left the 
rest in the 7.5 data file on C:

  I am now trying to work with some old files in S:

  Anne


  On 10/03/2014 1:36 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote:

The problem is I don't have an option.

If I open 7.5 - go to open family file - the file of all my old files opens 
- I select a file - press open and I get the message to convert.

If I say no I get the message I have an older format.



On 10/03/2014 1:28 PM, Michele/Support wrote:

  Anne, I am a little confused.



  If you have Legacy 7.5 on your computer you can open your 7.5 files no 
problem.





  Michele

  Technical Support

  mich...@legacyfamilytree.com

  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



  From: Anne Hollingshead [mailto:holl...@melbpc.org.au]
  Sent: Sunday, March 9, 2014 10:22 PM
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Still using 7,5 for some files



  I have many family files in 7.5
  I seem to have no option to open a family file in 7.5.

  If you don't opt to convert the file to Legacy 8 is there no alternative.


  Anne






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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

[R G Strong-genes]

Jay,
If you are referring to the User ID field. There is no software problem with
that field. That field is not a number field but is a text field and can
have any data in it you designate. The only numbers that should not have
duplicates are the RIN and MRIN which are assigned automatically by the
database.

User ID

This field is for any reference number you want to record for this
individual.  You can use any combination of letters, numbers and punctuation
marks.  There is a tool on the Options  Customize  Other tab where you can
automatically fill the User ID fields for all individuals with the RIN
numbers and optional text.


-Original Message-
From: J.M. Jay Ingalls
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 6:55 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Duplicate ID Numbers Software Problem?

If you use the ID Number field in Legacy, have you tried a search for
duplicate ID numbers?

Go to; My Toolbar, Merge, Find Duplicates, Special Duplicates Search,
Find duplicates using only User ID number, Continue.

I ran the search for duplicate ID numbers and found 57, 416 duplicate ID
numbers per the Legacy version 8 software. I have ran it in the past
with previous versions of Legacy and did not find many. When I go to the
Name List, I only have 66,194 people in my database!

I do have duplicate ID numbers starting with B, because I imported
data long ago for Ingalls listed in Burleigh's 1903 book on the Ingalls.
The researcher who added the data to her genealogy program added ID
numbers starting with B for Burleigh to indicate the number came from
his book. The book was published in 1903, so many of the individuals she
added to her data are descendants of some one in his book. She handled
that by using the number for the last ancestor listed in Burleigh plus a
dash number indicating the number of generations an individual is
removed from B1. So, there can be many descendants with the same ID
number such as B1222-10.

I did a search for ID numbers starting with B and found 3,948 People
with ID Numbers starting with B. Not all of them are duplicates!

I did a fairly extensive audit of all my ID numbers and found very few
identical ID Numbers, except for the Burleigh numbers. Looks to me like
there is a software problem.

Jay Ingalls

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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

[R G Strong-genes]

and on another note to add to the confusion. I kept searching for a surname in 
my database that had been imported from someone else's gedcom file. That 
surname that was unfamiliar to me and I wanted more info! The surname was 
“UNK”! Until I realized that they had used this surname for all their Unknown 
people! Just another reason that if you don’t know what should be in the field 
then leave it blank as it can be passed on to other researchers.

From: Dee
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:54 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering Unknown People

If you do a search at Ancestry.com for surname Unknown, you get 366,381 hits! 
Imagine if someone used the work unknown in another language, like Sconosciuto 
in Italian. You could spend your whole life fruitlessly looking for the 
Sconosciuto relatives!

Dee




On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Susan Jones scjo...@optusnet.com.au wrote:

  What would be the correct way to enter a person, whose surname you don’t know?



  I have many where I have the father’s full name and his wife’s first name 
only.



  Many thanks

  Susan





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Re: [LegacyUG] How to add children?

[R G Strong-genes]

nothing until you know


From: Richard Falzini
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to add children?

Yes I know I can add the children with the mother in family view.


But since the father of the children is unknown, what would you put down for 
the father?





On Friday, February 21, 2014 11:06 PM, R G Strong-genes 
rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:

With the mother in the family view just click Add Child in the children area

From: Richard Falzini
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to add children?

Hello group,
  I have a cousin (now desceased) and she had a son and a 
daughter.

I have all of the info on the mother and children, but nothing to tell me who 
the father of the children are?

I can only say that the children use the mother's surname.

Can anyone please advise me on how to add the 2 children since the father is 
unknown?

Thanks



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Re: [LegacyUG] How to add children?

[R G Strong-genes]

With the mother in the family view just click Add Child in the children area

From: Richard Falzini
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] How to add children?

Hello group,
  I have a cousin (now desceased) and she had a son and a 
daughter.

I have all of the info on the mother and children, but nothing to tell me who 
the father of the children are?

I can only say that the children use the mother's surname.

Can anyone please advise me on how to add the 2 children since the father is 
unknown?

Thanks


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Re: [LegacyUG] Checking in!

[R G Strong-genes]

it may be slow

From: Darlene  Don Hicks
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:36 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Checking in!

I have not received any Legacy mail for three days!  If it is just slow please 
let me know!



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Re: [LegacyUG] OptionsCustomize (ff) or (gbl)

[R G Strong-genes]

Mary,
The OP states that in Legacy 7 and earlier they were all global and she was 
asking about the options in ver 8.

From: Mary Fowler Leek
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:24 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OptionsCustomize (ff) or (gbl)

Kurt,



In Legacy v7.5, there does not appear to be an ‘Options for default settings 
Tab’ under Customize. Could you be a bit more specific.



Mary



From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:16 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] OptionsCustomize (ff) or (gbl)



From your “just right” setup, use Options-Customize-Options for default 
settings-Save all current settings as User-Defaults.



Then in your other databases, use Options-Customize-Options for default 
settings-Reset to User-Defaults.



From: Ron Taylor [mailto:doit4...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:01 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] OptionsCustomize (ff) or (gbl)



All options were global in Legacy 7 and earlier.  I can not find a good reason 
why some settings are now only effective for each family file.  When I select 
certain settings, I want those to apply to every database that I open so that I 
see the same effect with each one.  It is frustrating to get the settings just 
right and then open another database only to find that the preferred settings 
are not still set.



Is there at least a method of copying all settings for one database such that 
they will be the same for another database?  Please describe how that might be 
done with Legacy 8.  Even with an Export to new Legacy Family File the 
settings from the source file are not effective in the exported file.



Another possibility would be to have a table of the settings where the user 
could determine which ones should be global and which should be family file 
linked instead of having it hard-coded in the program.



Ron Taylor



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Re: [LegacyUG] Statistic/Search List

[R G Strong-genes]

Mine works as expected.

-Original Message-
From: Jenny M Benson
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:08 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Statistic/Search List

I was looking at the Family File Statistics screen and noticed that my
file includes one man who was married when under 15 years old.  I wanted
to see who this was (it's probably a mistake) so I clicked on that line
and then clicked on Create Search List, selecting the option to create a
new list, but the result was the list (one person) that resulted from
the last Search I'd done this morning.

Further investigations showed that selecting any line and asking for a
Search List did not work - the existing Search List is all that's displayed.

Can others confirm this behaviour?  If so, I will report it as a bug.
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers

[R G Strong-genes]

if it is set up properly then usually the router is behind its own firewall

-Original Message-
From: Brian
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 3:54 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] syncronizing two computers

Mike,
   Never thought, whats in my routers thumb drive, could be vulnerable,
(going to clean it up now)
that's one thing I don't like about cloud storage.
I think, in the end I'll sink by copying and pasting through the
thumb drive, from one comp to another.
With out images It'll, it might take 4 seconds, I can handle it.
Brian






On 2/9/2014 3:14 AM, MikeFry wrote:
 On 09 Feb 2014 05:30, Brian wrote:

 Not to highjack this thread, but wireless router was mentioned.
 My wireless router has a port for a memory stick, which I use to
 transfer files between 3 computers.
 Could I keep my family file in my routers memory stick,
 to sink my desktop and laptop?
 I assume it would operate like dropbox, shouldn't work on one, while the
 other is open.
 If you do this, be very, very careful with the way you set up security on
 the
 router. The memory stick (thumb drive, flash drive whatever...) is usually
 treated as a network drive and can be accessed from the other side of the
 router
 i.e. the big, bad Internet world with all its' hackers.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking/Linking

[R G Strong-genes]

You can get to the same menu by right clicking any of the children number
labels.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Austen
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 6:51 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Unlinking/Linking

Click (right or left) on the + in the upper right corner of the Children
window OR in the white space above the column, in the header marked
Children. You should get a pop-up window with 6 choices - select Link to
and existing son or Link to an existing daughter - the Name List will
open allowing you to choose the person you want to link to.

Bob A



-Original Message-
From: Carl Cox [mailto:ct...@centurytel.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 2:42 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking/Linking

Right clicking anywhere in the childs area will return add a brother and
add a sister among other choices. I do not see a plus, but there is a logo
that displays the screen by which you can sort order, select child status,
and edit each child, among other things. I had never seen that logo before.
When you have an empty slot, clicking there returns add or link to a child,
among other options.

When you have set the display for full screen, 6 children can be added, but
with partial screen selected you only get 5 per column.

Carl



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Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking/Linking

[R G Strong-genes]

If you right click on one of the children there is an option to Add Brother
or Add Sister

-Original Message-
From: Dale E O'Connor
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 3:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unlinking/Linking

The option I have set is best fit.

With 5 children the column is full and there is no option to add another
child.  If I right click on the plus sign I do get the option to add or
link an existing son or daughter.

Right clicking on the plus sign does work to link another child.  I now
have 2 columns of children.

Thanks,

Dale

On 2/8/2014 1:46 PM, C.G. Ouimet wrote:
 I actually thought it sounded like a 1 column Children view.

 When all 5 slots are occupied, the is a plus sign (upper right hand side
 of the children section) to add ...


 C.G. Ouimet
 Kingston ON











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Re: [LegacyUG] Names in Family View - show AKA

[R G Strong-genes]

Kathy,
You will find a lot of info on this subject in the Help file under 
NicknamesInformation screen

From: Kathy Thompson
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:48 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Names in Family View - show AKA

ahh - you you would suggest I put Bill in the given names rather than in a 
Custom event type field like Alias or AKA


Makes sense




On 8 February 2014 23:17, Brian/Support br...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

  Kathy,

  Legacy recognizes a given name in quotes William Bill as a nickname.
  In reports you have special options to use those quoted names. Since it
  is entered in the Given Names for the individual they are immediately
  apparent in the Family View.

  Brian
  Customer Support
  Millennia Corporation
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  http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



  On 08 Feb 2014 7:21 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:
   I have a number of people who were either known by a nickname or a
   variant of their given name, and are referred to as such in documentation.
  
   How can I help myself and others looking at my tree data to see this AKA
   in the Family View without having to open the Alternate Names window?
  
   For example:
   William Jones was always called Bill
   I want to see
   William Bill Jones for his name in Family View, while still having it
   clear in the Individual view that Bill was just a nickname and William
   Jones was his legal name.
  
   Having this will help when I have 3 or 4 William Jones' in one family
   yet each has their own unique nickname
   William Jones, William Jones  William Jones gets tricky
   William Bill Jones, William Willy Jones,  William Jonesy Jones is
   much easier.
  
   Thanks


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Re: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

[R G Strong-genes]

You could use the split screen function and then you could have both showing
at the same time.

-Original Message-
From: singhals
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:40 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Installed Version: 8.0.0.397

MikeFry wrote:
 On 07 Feb 2014 19:19, singhals wrote:

 True, but in that it's no worse than the clipboard.
 Whatever floats your boat that day.  IMO, it's frequently
 easier to mark/dele than to bounce from pillar to post doing
 ctl-c/ctl-v.

 And then... there's the mouse. You can always mark with the mouse and drag
 it
 somewhere else :-)


Umm, how do I drag from RIN 4567 to RIN 734 in the same
database?  I don't /think/ I can have both of 'em open -- or
can I?

Cheryl

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Re: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?

[R G Strong-genes]

I just enter a blank line before any text in those boxes and then it appears as 
I want. That is how Geoff does it in his book.

From: robs_familytree .
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 8:45 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?

I tested it in the other boxes, and the indent is also lost on the Master Text 
and Master Comments, but the Detail Comments keeps the indent.

Thanks,

Rob

Rob Miller
Toronto, ON





From: robs_familyt...@hotmail.ca
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Detail Text - no indent on the first sentence?
Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 08:39:50 -0500


I just transcribed a source into the Detail Text box. The first sentence has an 
indent (which I included), but as soon as I save the source the text becomes 
flush with the left margin. It only seems to happen in the first line. I will 
report the issue, but wanted to be sure it wasn't just me or my computer.

Thanks!



Rob Miller
Toronto, Ontario



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Re: [LegacyUG] Editing marriage definition glitch?

[R G Strong-genes]

The problem is that you have that event in the Individuals events so you
cannot use the [CoupleNames] in an individual event. If the person was
married more than once how would it know which couple, that is why it is a
marriage event and should be an event in the marriage screen.

-Original Message-
From: Brian
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 3:12 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Editing marriage definition glitch?

I have the exactly the same event entered as an event for the Husband,
wife and Marriage event.
The marriage event is as it should be, on screen and in reports.
 Sentence definition:
[CoupleNames] have a [EventName] dated [onDate], residing at [Place].

In the husband and wife's event sentence on screen, read, a ? where
there should be a name.
In reports it lists the individuals name and not the spouse.





On 2/2/2014 2:43 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
 On 02/02/2014 19:17, Brian wrote:
 I am having a problem editing a sentence and beginning to wonder if its
 me or a known glitch.
  In an Individuals event pop up screen, I have an Event/fact reading
 Marriage Certificate,
 the Description field is blank, Date and Place are filled.

 In the Marriage Certificate, Add/Edit definition screen  accessed
 from the bottom of an Individuals page.
   I have entered in the  if only date and place are filled field:
 [CoupleNames] have a [EventName] dated [onDate], residing at [Place].
   The couple's data should be Morris Silverstein and Hannah
 Schneider,
 married Jan, 17, 1909 in Manhattan, NY.

  The readout I get is Thomas Brown have a Marriage Certificate dated
 on 28 May 1904, residing at Seattle, King, Washington, United States.
 These are the event notes.¹
 Does this text appear in Reports or on the Edit Event screen?  If it
 does, then it is a bug.

 But I think you might find it is only showing in the Sentence Preview
 slot at the bottom of the Add/Edit Event Definition screen and these
 pieces of text have been used for all the Sentences' previews, I think.

 Legacy 7 did not have this preview slot at the bottom of that screen and
 I actually think it is a bit confusing rather than helpful.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Export Gedcom file without pictures

[R G Strong-genes]

If you wish to exclude the media links then you need to EXCLUDE them from the 
GEDCOM. On the GEDCOM Export screen click on the “Customize” button on the 
right side of the screen. On the Items to Incude in GEDCOM for Legacy screen 
there is a section called Groups of items to EXCLUDE from Export check the box 
“Media Files” and any other stuff you don’t want in the GEDCOM file. When you 
have it the way you want and before clicking OK, you might want to Save List to 
save the settings so you can Load List the next time you want them.

From: Bob Austen
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 8:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Export Gedcom file without pictures

No problem Hans, a gedcom is “only” a text file so pictures will not be 
included.  It will include the information about the picture, including the 
link, title and notes, etc. that you have, but the actual pictures will not be 
included.  Note, as well, that [[double square brackets]] can be used to 
exclude information, other than the link (I haven’t figured out if there is a 
way to exclude that).



Bob A



From: Hans Rautenberg [mailto:hraut...@udec.cl]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:58 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Export Gedcom file without pictures



Hi



How to export a Gedcom file without including the pictures of the original file.



Greetings



Hans




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Re: [LegacyUG] v7.5 - how can I send info to someone by email?

[R G Strong-genes]

Elizabeth,
You have to use the Advanced Tagging feature to tag the line or individuals you 
want to send. Have you read the help file on splitting your family file? Only 3 
tags are available with the free version. So if they are all being used then 
you will have to free one of them up to use it.

From: elizabeth
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 1:54 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] v7.5 - how can I send info to someone by email?

Can anyone tell me how to make a copy of some of my family tree and send it to 
another person by email? I only want to send a certain portion, not my whole 
tree.


I use the free verson of 7.5 (They do not have Legacy so I need to send it by 
email in such a way that they can view it somehow without legacy)


Thank you,

Elizabeth



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Re: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

[R G Strong-genes]

Mary,
Have you checked option 7.4 to see what it is set at?

From: Mary Young
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

I have unticked this - so the default should be OFF.  But the Source Detail box 
keeps popping up.   I have set it to ON, then OFF again ... have also run 2 x 
Check'n'Repair.  but nothing will turn it off.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks
Mary Young


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Re: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

[R G Strong-genes]

Mary,
I guess I should have read the subject line. Changing the Default to off does 
not automatically untick that same box on the source clipboard, you have to 
open that up and untick the box there also. Changing the default will be for 
any new sources that are created.

From: R G Strong-genes
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

Mary,
Have you checked option 7.4 to see what it is set at?

From: Mary Young
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

I have unticked this - so the default should be OFF.  But the Source Detail box 
keeps popping up.   I have set it to ON, then OFF again ... have also run 2 x 
Check'n'Repair.  but nothing will turn it off.
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Thanks
Mary Young

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Re: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

[R G Strong-genes]

Mary,
Are you doing this procedure from the Master Source list or are you doing it 
from an individuals source list?

From: Mary Young
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:38 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

Thanks, yes, option 7.4 is already set at off.   You said changing the 
Default to off does not automatically untick that same box on the source 
clipboard, you have to open that up and untick the box there also.
How do I open up the source clipboard to untick a box there also - AFAIK, I'm 
not trying to put a source into the clipboard?
This is the procedure:
(1) Select to Add a New (Basic) Source
(2) Enter Source List Name and Title
(3) Enter Text of Source
(4) Hit Save Button
(5) Box pops up for Add the Source Detail although option 7.4 is set at 
off, i.e. Don't Prompt for Detail.
Is this not happening to anyone else?
Mary Young



On 30 January 2014 22:30, R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:

  Mary,
  I guess I should have read the subject line. Changing the Default to off does 
not automatically untick that same box on the source clipboard, you have to 
open that up and untick the box there also. Changing the default will be for 
any new sources that are created.

  From: R G Strong-genes
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 5:23 PM
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

  Mary,
  Have you checked option 7.4 to see what it is set at?

  From: Mary Young
  Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:49 PM
  To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Customise - 7.4 Source Clipboard - Prompt for Detail

  I have unticked this - so the default should be OFF.  But the Source Detail 
box keeps popping up.   I have set it to ON, then OFF again ... have also run 2 
x Check'n'Repair.  but nothing will turn it off.
  Is anyone else experiencing this?

  Thanks
  Mary Young



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Re: [LegacyUG] Research notes

[R G Strong-genes]

You can still do that in your notes! If you don't want them to appear in
reports then just surround them with the privacy brackets [[ some text ]]
and they will be visible in your file but will not appear in reports unless
you change the Privacy Options of the report. If you want the whole note
private just put the opening brackets and no closing brackets then
everything after them will be private.

-Original Message-
From: Jane Sarles
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:57 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research notes

Only if there enough tags for every family or person.  I should like to
see some sort of category such as is on the line of options under the
person screen:  other spouses, aka, todo, sources, etc.

   Some sort of option to list all the extraneous material one collects
when research a person.  Then you could add all the notes relevant to
that person (but not planned to appear in your reports probably), but
for your own research information.  It would be really nice to have all
my notes, scribbles, theories, etc. that handy.

Jane


On 1/21/2014 12:18 PM, JV Leavitt wrote:
 If there were a feature called Tagged Notes, that could be used to
 hold research information pertaining to all those with a certain tag
 number, would that come close to what you are requesting?

 Joseph Leavitt


 On 1/20/2014 6:54 PM, Jane Sarles wrote:
 But that more permanent fashion needs a place in Legacy. Something
 that contains notes that may or may not need to go into the events for
 that person, but helps you in research.  The problem with using the
 Research Notes is that it would be very difficult to organize those
 notes in a useful fashion.

 Jane

 On 1/21/2014 5:37 AM, MikeFry wrote:
 On 21 Jan 2014 12:31, Jenny M Benson wrote:

 The fact that it is a 3rd party product and not Legacy!
 Ah! But it can replace all your scraps of paper until you consolidate
 and
 organise them in a more permanent fashion. And it's free!



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Re: [LegacyUG] Research notes

[R G Strong-genes]

Just because it is found doesn't mean it does not belong in a To-Do list.
you could give it a title that would be appropriate and you can assign
reminder dates and priority and tag it. The To-do could be research more to
validate the item.

-Original Message-
From: Jane Sarles
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:59 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research notes

To Do being what you wish to find.  These items are info already found
but not yet deemed secure enough or clear enough or maybe useful enough
to incorporate into your data.

Jane


On 1/21/2014 12:59 PM, R G Strong-genes wrote:
 Why not just use the General-to-Do feature to add those research notes
 that pertains to the file.

 -Original Message-
 From: JV Leavitt
 Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 12:18 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research notes

 If there were a feature called Tagged Notes, that could be used to
 hold research information pertaining to all those with a certain tag
 number, would that come close to what you are requesting?

 Joseph Leavitt


 On 1/20/2014 6:54 PM, Jane Sarles wrote:
 But that more permanent fashion needs a place in Legacy. Something
 that contains notes that may or may not need to go into the events for
 that person, but helps you in research.  The problem with using the
 Research Notes is that it would be very difficult to organize those
 notes in a useful fashion.

 Jane

 On 1/21/2014 5:37 AM, MikeFry wrote:
 On 21 Jan 2014 12:31, Jenny M Benson wrote:

 The fact that it is a 3rd party product and not Legacy!
 Ah! But it can replace all your scraps of paper until you consolidate
 and
 organise them in a more permanent fashion. And it's free!




--
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program can be downloaded FREE at
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Re: [LegacyUG] Merging Sources

[R G Strong-genes]

If they use different templates then they cannot be merged you will have to 
copy and paste the data that you want to appear in the correct source.

From: Charles Apple
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Merging Sources

I have recently discovered that I incorrectly used the wrong Source Template in 
Source Writer and have several citations to that incorrect source. Therefore, I 
have created a new correct source in the Master Source list. Can the referenced 
incorrect Source in the Master Source list be merged with the correct source 
and maintain all of its references? Everything that I have read in the help 
files and the Legacy 8 manual refer to duplicates or sources that are exactly 
the same. These two both use Source Writer templates, however, they are 
different in that they use different source templates.



I am using the most recent version of Legacy 8 Deluxe. Any assistance would be 
greatly appreciated.



Charles



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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy not backing up

[R G Strong-genes]

I have 385 and it prompted me for a backup after I changed some one. When I do 
an update I see the skip file message also, which means that the file already 
exists and doesn’t need to update.

From: Boyd Miller
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:14 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy not backing up

I am using Build 385.  The program has not been doing backups, either on 
request (File  backup file) or when I exit the program after having made 
changes. All the usual checks have been made including rebooting.  I also 
initially had this same problem with Build 367.
The solution is to reinstall the current version over itself.
If you watch the process closely you will see that it skips most of the files 
but that it slows to copy several files.  Does this mean that the initial 
installation from the legacy8setup.exe file is not properly installing the 
whole program?  This may be worth a follow up from Support.
If your program shuts down without the delay to do the backup, check that your 
last backup is dated and timed the same as your last .fdb file.
Boyd



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