When I read this I thought of you all.
Richard
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I know this might be an impossible dream, but could we keep the list
clear of parochial US election discussion, as it is clearly off-topic.
Who the US chooses as their president has a significant impact on our
country, but there's bugger all I can do to influence that result
anyway, so I may as we
On Sep 11, 2012, at 4:20 PM, Craig Weinberg
wrote:
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:20:49 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Look how lawful and rich a very simple program, less than 1K, can
define:
Statistically, shouldn't we see this simple 1K sequence frequently
in nature?
Well
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi meekerdb
>
>
> How can you demythify something that actually happened ?
>
> Jesus really died on the cross and was resurrected.
There's no point arguing with you if you believe things like that.
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:20:49 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Look how lawful and rich a very simple program, less than 1K, can define:
>
Statistically, shouldn't we see this simple 1K sequence frequently in
nature? I mean precisely. Shouldn't there be hundreds of species of b
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Belief in God is a gift from God, you cannot achieve it on your own.
>
OK but have you ever asked yourself why that should be? If God exists then
that is the single most important fact about the universe, but why would
the most powerful thin
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:30, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>
>> Hi Craig Weinberg
>>
>> All evil and suffering are caused either by men and by natural
>> catastrophe. Men have free will,
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:06:36 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 11 Sep 2012, at 14:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
>
> On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:36:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>>
>> Hi Craig Weinberg
>>
>> The Creator is not created. So no problem.
>>
>
> Why not
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 2:12:44 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
>
> On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:04, Craig Weinberg wrote:
>
> Hi Roger,
>
> No, that is not what the article says:
>
> "Researchers who have studied a woman with *a missing amygdala*"
>
> "S.M. suffers from an extremely rare diseas
On 11.09.2012 22:09 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/11/2012 2:40 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 09.09.2012 19:45 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/9/2012 12:27 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.09.2012 23:19 Stephen P. King said the following:
...
Dear Evgenii,
You are asking me
On 9/11/2012 2:40 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 09.09.2012 19:45 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/9/2012 12:27 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.09.2012 23:19 Stephen P. King said the following:
...
Dear Evgenii,
You are asking me to explain to you in English the way the relevant
part o
On 9/11/2012 1:25 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:33, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
The idea of looking for a spatio-temporal location of the mental (or
soul) categories in the brain is wrong IHMO, and it is surprising to
heart this from you Roger. Brain localization of mental funct
On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:56, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
What do we have that machines don't ?
Intelligence, consciousnness, awareness. feelings--
in short, we have life, machines don't
And what if your daughter did marry that man with an artificial body?
How will you behave with him
On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:29, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Roger Clough
wrote:
Intelligence is by (my) definition an autonomous function,
so over-layers are not only forbidden, they are not needed.
But God does have to follow laws he already created.
If you jum
On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:30, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Roger Clough
wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
All evil and suffering are caused either by men and by natural
catastrophe. Men have free will, so they can do evil.
Nature must follow the laws of physics etc.
The evi
On 09.09.2012 19:45 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/9/2012 12:27 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 08.09.2012 23:19 Stephen P. King said the following:
...
Dear Evgenii,
You are asking me to explain to you in English the way the relevant
part of your brain generates the particular subject
On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:09, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
But the universe IS created.
I believe that Satan wrote the Koran, but not the Bible,
for the Bible asks us to love
Lovable entities are loved without asking.
Asking someone to love someone is giving someone an impossible tas
On 11 Sep 2012, at 15:04, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Hi Roger,
No, that is not what the article says:
"Researchers who have studied a woman with a missing amygdala"
"S.M. suffers from an extremely rare disease that destroyed her
amygdala."
It's as straightforward as it can be. The idea that t
On 11 Sep 2012, at 14:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Hi Roger,
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:36:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
The Creator is not created. So no problem.
Why not just say The Universe is not created. So no problem?
You are right. "God create the universe" can b
Hi Bruno,
Maybe it's time to update your fractal zoom links :-)
http://vimeo.com/12185093
Here's a couple 3d "mandelbulb" worlds which no doubt require
significantly more than 1K to implement, but purely mathematical
nonetheless:
https://vimeo.com/18308069
https://vimeo.com/36857924
In general
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:54, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Science is science and religion is religion
and never the two shall meet.
Science is a tool. Religion is the goal. I would say.
If you separate them, it is like cutting the corpus callosum between
the analytical and intuitive hemi
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:33, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
The idea of looking for a spatio-temporal location of the mental (or
soul) categories in the brain is wrong IHMO, and it is surprising to
heart this from you Roger. Brain localization of mental functions is
like trying to locate physically
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:27, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
If I ever doubt that there is a God,
the regularity of Newton's physics or
the microscopic structure of a snowflake
dispels such doubt.
These show design.
Design cannot be made randomly.
So there must be some intelligence interwea
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:20, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
It is ironic that Obama followed Bush policy economically (more
spending)
and also much like Bush in warfare, although a bit more timidly.
Timidly? I read that Obama used more drones than anyone before, and,
well I am not su
On 9/11/2012 5:58 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi meekerdb
Science is science and religion is religion
and never the two shall meet.
I'm not sure about this Roger. The goal of a true science and true
religion, in my opinion, is the search of tr
The current USA space-based ICBM defense system (on paper) consists of
autonomous kill vehicles separately orbiting the earth (10,000 of
them). Each KV decides if an *ICBM has launched and they divert from
orbit to hit the ICBM before burn-out. Canavan and Teller in vented
that system in response
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> > Science is not a field, but a methodology, or even just a human (or
> machine) attitude. Why not apply it in theology?
>
It has been, its just that the devout don't like the answers science has
come up with.
John K Clark
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> > God = truth
>
Certain statements can fool people into thinking they have made a profound
discovery when they have not, they probably work so well because people
often want to be fooled, but all they have obtained from their efforts is a
YATM (yet another turing machine) :-)
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http://www.toothycat.net/~hologram/Turing/
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On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:33:57 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Jason Resch
>
> Faith (trust) and love trump logic every time.
> If my neighbor has riches, it would be logical to
> rob him blind.
>
Why 'every time'. Didn't the Native Americans have faith and love in their
spiritual t
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:18, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Bruno Marchal
That's fine. Although it is a bit out-dated an idea,
I conceive of the evil acting in evil people
metaphorically as demons.
With two horns ?
:)
Many people reports seeing daemons, and sort of daemons, on different
psychedel
Hey, I didn't know either until I looked it up just now. I just know that
there are good and bad people everywhere, under every form of government
and ideology, religion and secular category.
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:43:45 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> OK, yuh g
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:49:31 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi meekerdb
>
>
> How can you demythify something that actually happened ?
>
> Jesus really died on the cross and was resurrected.
>
You do know that there are many historians who question the existence of a
historical
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:15:35 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> God encompasses everything, so no overlayer is possible.
>
So does the universe encompass everything. What's the difference?
>
> Powerless to change ? God did perform some miracles such as the virg
On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:05, Roger Clough wrote:
The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain
Since neuroscience omits or seems not to feature the most important
part of the brain, the self,
I've decided to try to locate it. I believe it is the amygdala.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KY_sgX2gAM
On 11 Sep 2012, at 12:39, benjayk wrote:
Our discussion is going nowhere. You don't see my points and assume
I want to
attack you (and thus are defensive and not open to my criticism),
and I am
obviously frustrated by that, which is not conducive to a good
discussion.
We are not operta
On Sep 11, 2012, at 10:03 AM, "Roger Clough"
wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
Does the computer have the asbility to convert entropy into energy ?
That's a fundamental requirement for life.
I know of no life form that does this, unless you are viewing them
going backwards through time.
And
On 10 Sep 2012, at 21:58, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/10/2012 7:57 AM, benjayk wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
To use this argument, you need to postulate that the physical
universe
exists and is describe by a quantum garden of Eden, that is a
infinite
quantum pattern, and that *you* are that pat
On 10 Sep 2012, at 22:02, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/10/2012 12:50 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
This paper of an evolutionist scientific denounces the mytification
of
Darwin, the spread of false claims that enhance his figure and even
the creation of a physical temple around these myths.
http:/
On Sep 11, 2012, at 10:06 AM, "Roger Clough"
wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
I can't speak for the jewsw, but Jesus did away with the old jewish
laws.
So if you were referring to the new testament's concept known as the
golden rule (treat others well), I agree with you that this is a good
On 10 Sep 2012, at 21:45, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> A better question to John would be: explain where consciousness
and universes come from
Paraphrasing Mark Twain: Drawing on my fine command of the English
language I stood up, looked him straight in
On 10 Sep 2012, at 21:17, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
snip
To summarize, religion is part of human nature.
Yes. And with the most antic definition of those who have invented
science, *including* theology, we can say that computer science
confirms and generalizes this: all self-referential
On 10 Sep 2012, at 21:14, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Bruno Marchal wrote:
>> I think "God is a white man with a beard" is a more intelligent
statement than "God is truth" because its actually saying something,
it's something that happens not to be true but at least its saying
Hi Jason Resch
I can't speak for the jewsw, but Jesus did away with the old jewish laws.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi Jason Resch
Does the computer have the asbility to convert entropy into energy ?
That's a fundamental requirement for life.
And life must be free to do what it wants, which I don't think
computers can. The key word here is autonomy. Self-caused,
self-determined, meaning a self is also needed
I had a typo in my previous email. I meant to say that "NOT" all
religions claim certainty.
Some teach uncertainty or humbleness in the search for truth.
On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:47 AM, "Roger Clough" wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
There are some factual errors in the Bible but IMHO
the Bible is ine
Hi meekerdb
How can you demythify something that actually happened ?
Jesus really died on the cross and was resurrected.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:56 AM, "Roger Clough" wrote:
Hi Jason Resch
What do we have that machines don't ?
Intelligence, consciousnness, awareness. feelings--
in short, we have life, machines don't
Why do you belive no machine can have these properties?
Jason
Roger Clough, rclo...@veriz
Hi Craig Weinberg
OK, yuh got me.
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9/11/2012
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Hi Stathis Papaioannou
No. Intelligence just is, it's nonphysical like information,
and precedes and is necessary for design to happen.
That sounds a bit like a Turing machine, not sure.
IMHO It's the "nothing" that the Big Bang out exploded out of.
I didn't say that the supreme intelligence wa
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:06:18 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> You're certainly welcome to your beliefs.
>
> OK, I was wrong about forgiving your neighbor,
> but I don't think that the Koran asks you to love your neighbor.
>
"Worship Allah and join none with him
Hi Stathis Papaioannou
God is supreme intelligence.
Intelligence is autonomous and isn't even created.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
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Hi Stathis Papaioannou
You're comparing apples and oranges.
Science and religion are two completely
different spheres of being.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi Stathis Papaioannou
OK I missed the statement about going to heaven if you accept...
That is a matter of faith, which not infrequently defies common sense.
Is the Big Bang common sensicalk ? Is life ?
I don't understand the criterion of your other list.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
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Hi Stathis Papaioannou
All of your instances of the falsity of religion below
do not pertain to the Christian relgion except
that the Ten Commandments were dictated by God to Moses.
Not so, they were carved into two stone tablets.
So no mistakes.
For a God who create this marvellous universe,
t
Hi Craig Weinberg
You're certainly welcome to your beliefs.
OK, I was wrong about forgiving your neighbor,
but I don't think that the Koran asks you to love your neighbor.
Yes, I've travelled a lot.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have
Hi Jason Resch
What do we have that machines don't ?
Intelligence, consciousnness, awareness. feelings--
in short, we have life, machines don't
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> If someone they love dies of cancer, their survivors
> sometimes say it was God's will.
>
> I don't think so. God didn't kill the patient, the
> cancer did.
>
> God fights for life, which is what goodness aims for.
>
Ca
Hi Jason Resch
The Bible says that Jesus is the Truth.
Jesus does not give recipes that show the way to
God as other teachers of religion do. He is himself the way.
Karl Barth
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so tha
Hi Jason Resch
There are some factual errors in the Bible but IMHO
the Bible is inerrant with regard to faith and moral practice.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
- Receiving the
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 9:10:46 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> But the universe IS created.
>
I can say that God IS created too. Here goes: God IS created.
Whatever created the universe would have to also be the universe, or an
arbitrary conceptual partition ther
Hi Craig Weinberg
If someone they love dies of cancer, their survivors
sometimes say it was God's will.
I don't think so. God didn't kill the patient, the
cancer did.
God fights for life, which is what goodness aims for.
Cancer aims for death. So a battle goes on in every cancer
patient.
Anot
Hi Jason Resch
Faith (trust) and love trump logic every time.
If my neighbor has riches, it would be logical to
rob him blind.
"Reason is and ever ought to be, the slave of passion."
David Hume
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Intelligence is by (my) definition an autonomous function,
> so over-layers are not only forbidden, they are not needed.
>
> But God does have to follow laws he already created.
> If you jump off of a building you will fall to your death.
>
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> All evil and suffering are caused either by men and by natural
> catastrophe. Men have free will, so they can do evil.
> Nature must follow the laws of physics etc.
>
> The evil actions are referred to as under God's pe
WHOOPS!
Sorry I sent the email about the amygdala-- somebody found that a woman with no
amygdala
still could talk etc, normally.
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Nah, the function of the amygdala only contributes one range of sense and
motive to the self.
http://health.usnews.com/h
Roger,
I do see other articles where that patient SM is described as having
amygdala lesions, but the animal studies out there don't make any
distinction between the results of amygdala lesions and amygdala removal.
Either way, it seems the amygdala doesn't function.
On Tuesday, September 11,
Hi Craig Weinberg
God encompasses everything, so no overlayer is possible.
Powerless to change ? God did perform some miracles such as the virgin
birth and the Resurrection. To one who created the universe,
these would have been child's play.
But otherwise, God is justice, so it doesn't make se
Hi Craig Weinberg
But the universe IS created.
I believe that Satan wrote the Koran, but not the Bible,
for the Bible asks us to love and forgive each other.
Writing that would burn the Devil's fingers.
So the koran seems to omit the part about loving
and forgiving each other.
Roger Clough
Hi Craig Weinberg
All evil and suffering are caused either by men and by natural
catastrophe. Men have free will, so they can do evil.
Nature must follow the laws of physics etc.
The evil actions are referred to as under God's permissible will.
But yes since God causes everything to happen, he m
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Alberto G. Corona
>
> Religious communion with God and prayer are transcendental so
> not computable.
>
>
Even those of the past who looked down on the "barbaric" and
"uncivilized" native people believed they could be converted and
saved.
Hi Roger,
No, that is not what the article says:
"Researchers who have studied a woman with *a missing amygdala*"
"S.M. suffers from an extremely rare disease that *destroyed her amygdala*."
It's as straightforward as it can be. The idea that the amygala constitutes
the entire experience of se
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:41:13 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> Intelligence is by (my) definition an autonomous function,
> so over-layers are not only forbidden, they are not needed.
>
What is God if not an over-layer of intelligence?
> But God does have to fol
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
>
> Hi meekerdb
>
> Science is science and religion is religion
> and never the two shall meet.
I'm not sure about this Roger. The goal of a true science and true
religion, in my opinion, is the search of truth. In the Bahá'í Faith,
it is sa
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> But what is unique
> about religion is that its proponents make factual statements which
> they proudly profess to believe in the absence of any supporting
> evidence, while disallowing such reasoning for bizarre beliefs
> different to
Hi Roger,
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:36:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Craig Weinberg
>
> The Creator is not created. So no problem.
>
Why not just say The Universe is not created. So no problem?
What does the idea of an uncreated Creator add that has any explanatory
power? Would
Hi Alberto G. Corona
Religious communion with God and prayer are transcendental so
not computable.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi Craig Weinberg
Her amygdala was damaged, not removed.
It would be interesting to study a person who lost or never
had an amygdala.
My thinking on the amygdala as self is that it
is so very, very basic, as self mnust be.
The possibility of fear fight-or-flight is about as basic
as you can
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
> every statement about whatever, included "reality" is made with mental
> concepts . The definition of truth, reality , factual, religion, depend on
> axioms or unproved statements. I presented a computational-evolutionary,
> falsable,
Hi Craig Weinberg
Intelligence is by (my) definition an autonomous function,
so over-layers are not only forbidden, they are not needed.
But God does have to follow laws he already created.
If you jump off of a building you will fall to your death.
I'm missing a possible problem there.
Roger
Hi Roger,
Do demons have free will? Or are the evil actions of people an involuntary
gift from God? Is there another option?
Craig
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:19:23 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Bruno Marchal
>
>
> That's fine. Although it is a bit out-dated an idea,
> I conceive o
Hi Craig Weinberg
The Creator is not created. So no problem.
And the supreme monad is able to do all of the
functions of a homunculus.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
- Re
Hi Craig Weinberg
I am intolerant of stupidity and deception, particularly
when the idea of carbon credits pops up. This suggests that
"Global warming" is just a method of raising taxes,
diminishing coal and oil, and even globally sharing the wealth.
Thankfully china won't go along with this
Nah, the function of the amygdala only contributes one range of sense and
motive to the self.
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2010/12/16/brain-anomaly-leaves-woman-without-fear
This woman has no amygdala, but besides not being able to experience or
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Roger Clough wrote:
> Hi Stathis,
>
> You say :
>
>
> "My primary problem with religion is the poverty or non validity of
> argument, notably based on text or per authority, instead of personal
> inquiry."
I didn't say that, Bruno did, but I agree.
> You could sa
every statement about whatever, included "reality" is made with mental
concepts . The definition of truth, reality , factual, religion, depend on
axioms or unproved statements. I presented a computational-evolutionary,
falsable, exposition of what religion is: a part of a wider class
of phenomen
Hi Albert,
They commonly use IMRI (which detects which parts of the brain are operating
at the moment) to find which parts of the brakin function at certain times.
They find that introspective reflection turns on an areas in
the prefrontal cortex:
http://www.healthimaging.com/index.php?option=c
2012/9/10 meekerdb :
> On 9/10/2012 12:50 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>
> This paper of an evolutionist scientific denounces the mytification of
> Darwin, the spread of false claims that enhance his figure and even
> the creation of a physical temple around these myths.
>
> http://www.epjournal.ne
Hi Richard Ruquist
Does "life thrive in a prebiotic soup" ? Then he's done.
But he doesn't really say how he starts-- if with bacteria
he cheats, because they are already alive.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:29:00 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
>
> Hi Bruno Marchal
>
> If I ever doubt that there is a God,
> the regularity of Newton's physics or
> the microscopic structure of a snowflake
> dispels such doubt.
>
> These show design.
> Design cannot be made randomly.
>
Hi meekerdb
Science is science and religion is religion
and never the two shall meet.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi meekerdb
Using religion to prove anything in this world
would be like using Mozart to build a bridge.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi meekerdb
Belief in God is a gift from God,
you cannot achieve it on your own.
The same is also true of salvation.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could function."
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Hi John Clark
God is nonphysical, so science (which can only deal with the physical)
cannot find him or deal with him in any way.
There are facts and values.
Science can only deal with facts.Religion can only deals with values.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "
Hi Stathis,
You say :
"My primary problem with religion is the poverty or non validity of
argument, notably based on text or per authority, instead of personal
inquiry."
You could say the same thing about Da Vinci's Mona Lisa.
Or values in general. Science can only deal with fact.
Values ar
The idea of looking for a spatio-temporal location of the mental (or soul)
categories in the brain is wrong IHMO, and it is surprising to heart this
from you Roger. Brain localization of mental functions is like trying to
locate physically the spell checker of a word processor in the hardware of
a
Hi Bruno Marchal
If I ever doubt that there is a God,
the regularity of Newton's physics or
the microscopic structure of a snowflake
dispels such doubt.
These show design.
Design cannot be made randomly.
So there must be some intelligence interweaved in Nature.
I call that God.
That nature ha
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Hi Bruno Marchal
It is ironic that Obama followed Bush policy economically (more spending)
and also much like Bush in warfare, although a bit more timidly.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net
9/11/2012
Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him
so that everything could funct
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