Re: [PEDA] to DXP or not to DXP

2002-08-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
; > In a message dated 8/20/2002 12:54:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > techsupport@bagotronix. Re: [PEDA] to DXP or not to DXP, Wamnet Re: [PEDA] to DXP or not to DXP, Bagotronix Tech Support <-- Chronological --> <-- Thread --&g

Re: [PEDA] to DXP or not to DXP

2002-08-20 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> If this is the best that a trained Situs user can produce, I am not > impressed at all. I wonder what the yields of these designs would be in a > real production environment. Situs - sounds like "Klytus", the evil henchman of Ming the Merciless in the Flash Gordon fiction. Well, I consider my

Re: [PEDA] PCs WAS: Protel 99SE on Windows XP

2002-08-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Yea it is my only Compaq, and maybe my last. Compaq may be smarter than > the rest of the industryThey have built hardware speciifially to run a > specific OS. Sounds like an Apple Computer doesnt it? Making crappy proprietary hardware, becoming reviled in the industry for poor quali

Re: [PEDA] Protel 99SE on Windows XP

2002-08-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Mike: I hope that one Compaq is the only one you ever bought. I had one some years ago (PII-266) and it was absolute junk. Yes, Compaq does make proprietary version of Windows for their PCs. How smart is that - a proprietary version of a proprietary OS? Compaq does everything they can to be

Re: [PEDA] Linux and Protel

2002-08-16 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
ed with his patents for the "secured PC" > may make it virtually impossible for any competing OS to exist if the "secured > PC" catches on. I don't disagree with your statement. But if this were to happen, it would be suicide for the U.S. tech industry. We would inst

Re: [PEDA] Linux and Protel WAS: Spoofed email address

2002-08-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Don't you need a Mac to run OS-X on? I'm not interested in Macs. Art services drive me crazy with their incompatible Apple file formats. Every time I get some ad art done, I can't even open it on my own PC. Besides, I can't stand those goofy cases some of the Mac models use. I take it that OS

Re: [PEDA] Linux and Protel WAS: Spoofed email address

2002-08-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> >Also, any e-mail software that I might switch to must be supported under > >Windows and Linux, because I am trying to phase M$ out. > > Very ambitious plan. About when do you expect to have M$ phased out of > your company? ;) When W2K is no longer sold or supported. At that time, we would e

Re: [PEDA] OT: Spoofed email address (was: (Un)subscribe!!!)

2002-08-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I used Eudora for a while when I first got online back in the mid-90's. That was back in Win3.1 days. I'm a cheapskate, and don't want to pay for e-mail software such as Eudora. Also, any e-mail software that I might switch to must be supported under Windows and Linux, because I am trying to phas

Re: [PEDA] OT: Spoofed email address (was: (Un)subscribe!!!)

2002-08-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
t; Microwave Products > Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) > Fax (604) 292-9010 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norsat.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, August

Re: [PEDA] OT: Spoofed email address (was: (Un)subscribe!!!)

2002-08-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Glad to know AOL isn't part of the problem! Yes, it can be a pain when > you > are away from home, but the spammers are drowning us in garbage. Yeah, we get tons of spam too. No, we don't use AOL, MSN, hotmail, or any of the notorious spam magnets. Typically 50 - 90% of the e-mail to our sal

Re: [PEDA] Spoofed email address (was: (Un)subscribe!!!)

2002-08-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
You need to make sure YOU don't have a virus. Some of these viruses can rifle through your address book and send e-mails without you knowing about it. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA

Re: [PEDA] (Un)subscribe!!!

2002-08-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Oops, I hope the (un)subcriber automaton doesn't think I want to (un)subscribe just because I replied to a subject line that had (un)subscribe in it. Keep me in here! Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Gareth Bradley" <[E

Re: [PEDA] Unsubscribe!!!

2002-08-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Gareth: If you really have 99SE running on Linux, don't unsubscribe! Stay subscribed so you can keep us updated on how it goes. Lists aren't just for gimme, gimme, gimme, you should give some too. If you can't stand the flame wars, just delete the messages without reading them. Works for me.

Re: [PEDA] Philips Wave and Reflow Footprints(Ex:IPC Footprint St andards)

2002-08-13 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
; Lead PCB Designer > Norsat International Inc. > Microwave Products > Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) > Fax (604) 292-9010 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norsat.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [PEDA] Philips Wave and Reflow Footprints(Ex:IPC Footprint St andards)

2002-08-13 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
$900 !!! Wow!!! (new subscriber price) That's 2 car payments, or 400+ McDonalds' 1/4-pounders, or 1800 movie tickets to the local bargain afternoon matinee theater. Just for some SMT footprints! Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message -

Re: [PEDA] OT Office WAS: Protel 99 se SP4 on Windows XP Home

2002-08-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
XP Home > > > Get WinXP Pro. No activation thingy. Wait a sec, other than the > graphics, it's identical to Win2K Pro, but double the price. You are > right, Microsoft is a P___k. > > > Brian Guralnick > > > - Original Message - > Fr

Re: [PEDA] DXP Newsgroup

2002-08-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Why don't they watch where the DXP message traffic is (here)? Instead of where they wish it was (there)? Seriously, I don't have time to register for all the variant lists that some may propose, i.e. the list of all Protel 99SE users who never owned v2.8, are thinking about upgrading to DXP, but

Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> As for market forces on software prices, I'm going to do my part. I'm > done buying any new Microsoft OS's after Win2K (due to their licensing > and privacy policies) and Altium (because of pricing/support/utility > -per-dollar issues). So I guess I may only be one person, but I'm > voting with

Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> The personal electronics industry is a freak among industries. You must > agree with that? Well, it's a BIG freak, then. So big that it is regarded as the norm by anyone not in the industry. > Even in your example lies cable modem service that has gone up and up. Tell > me why? They say it's

Re: [PEDA] OT Metric vs Imperial

2002-08-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
helps prevent mistakes. When you give schematics to a tech, they need to see explicit power pin connections, otherwise they don't know where to probe. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> i think the time use model is a future certainty, UCITA already allows > remote disabling of users software more or less at the vendor's will UCITA may allow it, but my buying policy does not allow it. If I buy a copy of software I should be able to use it as long as I want to. If a software

Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
No, not everything has gone up. I am surprised that you would make this claim, being in the electronics industry. Here are some things that have gone down: Long distance rates Cellphone rates TVs (get a good one for $300 US, they used to be a lot more) All kinds of personal electronics Computer

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Microsoft can act like a king. King Gates: "General Ballmer, how goes the upgrade campaign?" General Ballmer: "Sire, the peasants are revolting!" King Gates: "Yes, they are. But how goes the campaign?" Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Rene: 1) Charging people the same amount for one big upgrade as all the missed upgrades 2) Forcing people buy each upgrade even if they don't want it 1 is functionally equivalent to 2. And vice versa. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Me

Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
ere are those who have a service agreement ($$$) > and all the others are new customers that always pay the full > price. > There is no obligation to offer a discount, really. > > Rene > > Bagotronix Tech Support wrote: > > > > I wonder if the software can tell, during

Re: [PEDA] DXP comment, but slightly off topic

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
The big gripe about the Imperial/metric issue is "who gets to contend with the extra digits to the right of the decimal point?" If the program works in Imperial natively, then using metric means the metric people have to contend with the extra digits. If the program works in metric natively, then

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I wonder if the software can tell, during installation, which version you actually had and refuse to install if it's not the "upgrade jump" you paid for? IMO, I think it's a shady business practice to charge someone more for an upgrade just because they skipped a version. That's the same as forc

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-08-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> >Exactly my point. Nothing can beat a PCB designer with 10 years > >experience. Computers are simply not smart and not adaptive enough. Most > >board tools are programmed by people that have never made a board in their > >life. And layout people wouldn't be caught dead writing programs. > > > A

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer! !!!

2002-07-31 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
The problem is that if Altium moderates the list, they can remove anything they don't like. I agree with Darryl, open discussion and criticism is very important. I am amazed at the efforts some companies are taking to squelch criticism. Not like, by fixing the product, but by other means. I su

Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence offer!!!!

2002-07-31 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Isn't that about $14,400 USD? If it's full versions, that's a big discount! Probably much cheaper than buying Protel 99SE (or DXP) and Specctra separately. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Stephen Casey" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [PEDA] HTML in e-mail == naughty

2002-07-31 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
You're welcome, Drew! I DO have those OE options selected (plain text only, reply in format of original message unchecked) and OE STILL doesn't obey. That's aggravating. Maybe it's time for me to switch to Mozilla. I already have at home. I don't have any use for Chinese character sets anyway.

Re: [PEDA] HTML in e-mail == naughty

2002-07-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
e Products > Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) > Fax (604) 292-9010 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norsat.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:54 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum &g

Re: [PEDA] HTML in e-mail == naughty

2002-07-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Forum members: I don't know how it's happening, but some of the messages posted to this list override the default fonts on my e-mail program (Outlook Express). I suspect that some of us have our e-mail programs set up to format message text in HTML. While this may look neat to you, I ask that y

Re: [PEDA] PCB houses

2002-07-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Or maybe the owner's name is E. (Edward) Nigma ? (That was the "real" name of one of Batman's nemeses, the Riddler). Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "mariusrf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [PEDA] Fastest possible Protel system, price is not a concern.

2002-07-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
My father just recently got a purchase requisition for a dual Xeon P4 system approved for the CAD dept. at the company he works for. His CAD dept. runs AutoCAD. He always asks me what is the current thing. I always say, "why ask me? My newest computer is over a year old". I tried to recommend

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> > > And Microsoft did fix the bug in the Intellimouse drivers > > before JaMi got > > his > > > machine from Dell! The fix drive just did not ship with the > > Dell machines. > > > > > > Updating the Intellimouse driver to the latest driver has fixed this bug > > on > > > every machine I know to

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-26 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Some of you guys would end up in a bar room brawl over the mouse issue ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:22

Re: [PEDA] Kudos

2002-07-25 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> It is company policy that software licences be reviewed here before > purchase in order to avoid "gotchas". That's a good company policy. Incidentally, how did you get a copy of the EULA for Microsoft products? From Microsoft's website: http://www.microsoft.com/education/license/eula.asp#6

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Just guessing, but maybe this mouse morass is Delphi's fault? It may be true that 99% of other apps don't have this problem, but maybe the 1% that do are written in Delphi? Sometimes app bugs turn out to be built-in bugs of the app development system. Coming to an EDA list near you: Mouse Wars

Re: [PEDA] Kudos

2002-07-24 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Protel is missing a bet by not offering a stand-alone full-featured > Mechanical > CAD package based on the 99SE interface. But *Please*, Protel, be sure to > maintain full two-way file conversion with all ACAD File Formats ever > released! Good idea, but not easy - Autodesk loves to change the

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-24 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
See replies below. I promise this is the last thing I'll say about date format, metric, and voltage for a long time. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Igor Gmitrovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PR

Re: [PEDA] AW: was Speaking of Protel Bugs. < space and time and ... >

2002-07-24 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
OK, folks, I know metric is better. I was just joking. But seriously, it is on-topic when you consider that some electronic parts are in metric, and some in Imperial (U.S. folks call Imperial "standard", because it IS our standard). This unit stuff can cause lots of grief because of imprecision

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-23 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> And you'd prefer times as MM:SS:HH? ;-) Personally, I'm out to get the whole > world to adopt ISO-8601, which alows several formats, of which I prefer > -MM-DD. That will sort correctly whether it's alphanumeric, or whatever. I didn't say anything about time format. You just assumed. Is "O

Re: [PEDA] Speaking of Protel Bugs.

2002-07-23 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Is this what happens when you write software applications "down under" when > everyone at Microsoft in Belview Washington is at home in bed and cannot > answer your technical questions about the software? Maybe the "down under" has something to do with it? ;-) >From one episode of the Simpson

Re: [PEDA] Does the Autorouter actually work?

2002-07-18 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Evidently I have much better luck with the autorouter than most of you folks do. I have used it on boards ranging from 2-sided to 8 layer. I admit that there are sometimes things it does which baffle me, but I don't get the design rule violations like was described in the original post. And I a

Re: [PEDA] 90 degree C?

2002-07-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I have used polygon areas as heat sinks before. These were for resistors and TO-220 transistors. I don't recall any temperature problems. I would think the semiconductor would die before the PCB materials would separate or the solder would melt. You should consider putting a grid of vias aroun

Re: [PEDA] looking for P99SE license for sale

2002-07-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
You mean a software license, right? A seat is something you sit on ;-) I suppose you want your "seat" to run on a certain "platform"? BTW, there is a local computer consulting firm called "Geeks 4 Cheap". They direct-mailed us a postcard ad. The caption: "The Dude who sits here probably doesn

Re: [PEDA] LCD screens WAS: Hardware questions (upgrade time - yuk!)

2002-07-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
his screen and liked it. The > only problem for me was XP, because I run several other programs which > require dongles, are not XP compatible etc. Also some missing ports > (replaced by usb only) are a problem for me . > > Matt Tudor , MSEE > http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com > >

Re: [PEDA] LCD screens WAS: Hardware questions (upgrade time - yuk!)

2002-07-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
You guys are compleat vidiots! ;-) What happens when you run a LCD screen at something other than it's pixel resolution? I have seen quite a few laptop screens that don't look good when running at lower resolutions than pixel-res. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotr

Re: [PEDA] PPC to word insertion

2002-07-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Actually, I use Acrobat 3.0 for printing to PDF files, and have both 3.0 and 5.0 installed for reading PDF files. The reason I still use 3.0 for printing is that I want to be sure the files I produce are readable by others who might have only 3.0 Reader. Before I upgraded to 5.0 Reader, I hated

Re: [PEDA] Protel under Win4Lin (WAS OpenOffice & 3D CAD)

2002-07-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Jason: It sounds like you still have to have a Windows installation on the Linux machine to run Win4Lin, right? I want a solution that eliminates the need for the Windows installation. Where you gonna find new licenses for Win98se now? And who wants to give M$ more money for it? Not me (maybe

Re: [PEDA] OpenOffice & 3D CAD

2002-07-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I have noticed that OpenOffice 1.0 (Windows version) will sometimes crash when opening a Word document if you do it by double-clicking on the filename in Windows Explorer. But, if you open the Word document from the File->Open dialog it works OK. Could be a file association problem? If you feel

Re: [PEDA] bloat WAS: OS bugs

2002-07-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> didn't occupy a CD as opposed to a floppy. If what you say is true in some > sectors, then I think it is absurd and anyone hiring based on code size and > not functionality is an idiot. In every field I can think of, there are large numbers of people who affect the direction of the field withou

Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Drag Selection in PCB Editor

2002-07-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I also miss the Edit->Change->Swap Pins feature in Protel PCB v2.8. I used this feature extensively on some boards that had to be hand-routed and optimized for 2-layer. It was necessary to: 1) draw a preliminary schematic with connector pin assignments unmade 2) bring it into PCB 3) manually

Re: [PEDA] bloat WAS: OS bugs

2002-07-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Tony, the companies you SHOULD be avoiding are the ones that produce bloated code, give you no clue that the code is bloated, and give you no option to avoid it. I think there may be another reason PowerBasic has the "option" to produce bloated code. Imagine this: you are a contract programmer

Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate function.

2002-07-08 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> you forgot: "Buy this new PCB. It has new features..." > > Oops, I forgot, for readers of THIS forum, that's what a) put the bread on the table, and b) what fuels all of this upgrade stuff in the first place (not to mention, what goes into that cell phone, automobile, TV, and computer, the last

Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate function.

2002-07-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
See replies below. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schem

Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate function.

2002-07-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
#x27;s nothing new and spectacular in any > of these upgrades. I'll live with what I have until the current OS computing > crisis ends in a few years. I'm not willing to subsidize M$ any longer. Maybe this is one reason for the tech recession (or depression, depending on how you look at

Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate function.

2002-07-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> All of us suffer from these same choices - we choose to use the Windows > platform, for whatever reason. It may be the most productive (more work > faster) or it may not - an argument for another day. We accept MS'es > constant upgrade cycle. We accept buggy code. We accept file format > cha

Re: [PEDA] SPICE sim question

2002-07-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> included, or a gross oversimplification, with million amp power supplies > delivering terawatts to improperly connected transistors. SPICE can I want some of those terawatt transistors! For 6 cents each in quantity. And I want them in a SOT-23 package! And throw in Florida Power Corp. for fr

Re: [PEDA] SPICE sim question

2002-07-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Straight-A students, indeed...!? Long ago, when I was first introduced to > computer simulation tools, I was forewarned: "A fool with a tool is still a > fool." True, and when the tool is a computer, the fool has an "electrified fooling machine". Don't get me wrong, I like SPICE and have used

Re: [PEDA] Anyone know of a Altera listserver? and Single/Dual CPU

2002-07-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
have to buy a faster computer to speed it up to where you were before. Are cycle-wasting wait loops being coded into software libraries to slow it down? It seems that the tech industry would have an incentive to do this. Slower software begets new, faster hardware, which begets a new OS license

Re: [PEDA] SPICE sim question

2002-07-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I would do more simulation if there were more and better models for the chips I want to use. Also, if the simulator software was easier to use (not talking about just Protel here). A lot of the designs I work on are mixed-signal, not strictly analog or digital. It's not easy to simulate these t

Re: [PEDA] Simulation model for Topswitchs

2002-07-02 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Dave: I just recently did a design using the TOP245. I don't think they have simulation models, but they do have a free program called PI-Expert you can run your TOPswitch design on. I think it's a canned SPICE simulation. It didn't work for me because I used an exotic topology that wasn't par

Re: [PEDA] Anyone know of a Altera listserver? and Single/Dual CPU

2002-07-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
You, sir, are a certified, bona fide tweaker ;-) There are 3 computers in this office I absolutely DO NOT mess with: CADzilla (my workstation), the Linux server, and my assistant's workstation. Can't risk messing anything up - we've got too much work to do to risk downtime. Anything else is fair

Re: [PEDA] Anyone know of a Altera listserver? and Single/Dual CPU

2002-07-01 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I cant stress enough here, use Ahead NERO CD writer software. If you ever install Easy CD Creator from Roxio, formerly made by > Adaptec, I will GAURANTEE mysterious system hangs when occasionally changing CD, writing CDs, and other weird unexplained > phenomenon. It's not worth the headache!

Re: [PEDA] License Issues

2002-06-27 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I don't know for sure how the license manager works, but I think it probably uses a UDP broadcast over the LAN to "discover" other copies of the program. If this is the case, it might be possible to block some UDP ports on your PC with firewall software. Norton Personal Firewall, perhaps? Each

[PEDA] PCB breakoffs

2002-06-25 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: We have had our domain transferred to a new ISP last week, so e-mail has just begun working normally (I hope!). Anyway, I want to make a PCB that has a "break-off" area with extra circuitry on it. The idea is that some users may not need the extra circuitry, so they can break off th

Re: [PEDA] XP is a dog

2002-06-20 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> some system monitors. Looks like XP eats about 100 meg of memory without > anything else running. That's real efficient. I dont code but it should > use about 10K. I was using NT for the past 5 out 6 years, until last > year when I couldnt bear the installation, network setup, an

Re: [PEDA] Protel PLD/CUPL Question

2002-06-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I agree. I wonder why Protel let the PLD tools wither and die? I seem to remember about 4 years ago that they bought some HDL tool from some other company and repackaged it as PeakFPGA or PeakVHDL, or Peaksomething. They managed to waste that one off. Personally, I think all those efforts were

Re: [PEDA] Tracking Number

2002-06-12 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I wonder if government folks will ever realize that laws like these only inconvenience the innocent and catch the dumb. The smart evil folks always find ways to circumvent these kinds of things. What's to stop someone from encrypting the real message in some non-U.S.-legal encryption, and attach

Re: [PEDA] Protel under VMware and Linux

2002-06-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I hope they didn't use .NET. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "Edi Im Hof" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Protel under VMware and Li

Re: [PEDA] Tracking Number

2002-06-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
If it is, my ISP is not complying with it. I just sent myself an e-mail and it came back with no ID number attached. Must be something Techserv-specific. How do we get the terrorists to start using these numbers in their e-mail? ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bago

Re: [PEDA] Tracking Number

2002-06-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Is this a guessing game? Or do you really need to know what that number is for? It's too long to be a UPS tracking # or for any other courier I have heard of. It's probably an auto-generated case number from some web help desk software. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.

Re: [PEDA] Save as Orcad Protel / MSoft

2002-06-11 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> it. So, as a result of my ripping off OrCAD schematic, over $15,000 dollars > was spent with them (also bought the PLD package). My advice to Protel - > Make the schematic module non-copy protected, and wait a few years for the > money to come back in! Yes, and I'm quite sure that if the BSA pi

Re: [PEDA] Save as Orcad Protel / MSoft

2002-06-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> it would be most valuable to me to be able to save protel schematics out > as orcad dsn files since they are much more widely used than protel > schematics Yeah, I have been wondering why that is. Every time I see a "reference" design for some chip, the schematics are in Orcad format, which I

Re: [PEDA] Protel / MSoft

2002-06-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Rene: Slightly off topic, but you need a morale boost. Maybe some of us on this list need one too. Don't drop out of hardware development if you meet all of the following criteria: 1) You are good at it 2) You really enjoy it I suspect you meet both criteria. I saw your website and it look

Re: [PEDA] XP Pro WAS: Schmatics wont open with XP

2002-06-05 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
This must mean that XP trashes application entries in the registry when you install it. Bad, bad, bad... Rob, did you upgrade to XPP from XPH, or some older version of Windows? If you upgraded from XPH, wow man, you have given M$ a lot of money just for one machine. If it's a new machine, it's

Re: [PEDA] fab dwgs OT Too many hole sizes

2002-05-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
All right, folks, can this fab drawing stuff be summarized in ONE comprehensive checklist? I use Advanced Circuits sometimes too. What I have done for their fab drawing requirement is: 1) choose "graphic symbols" for the drill drawing drill sizes 2) use the board wizard to set up dimension li

Re: [PEDA] OT Too many hole sizes

2002-05-17 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Does OT mean Off Topic or On Topic ? ;-) Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/lea

Re: [PEDA] rooms?

2002-05-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
t; Brad Velander. > > Lead PCB Designer > Norsat International Inc. > Microwave Products > Tel (604) 292-9089 (direct line) > Fax (604) 292-9010 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.norsat.com > > Visit us at Booth 2G2-09 at CommunicAsia 2002 in Singapore June 18-21.

[PEDA] rooms?

2002-05-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
OK, you Protel gurus... What's a "room"? Yeah, I know, it's what I'm in right now. But seriously, a room just appeared on my PCB after an "update pcb" action. I need to delete it, but I can't select it. How do I get rid of it? What are rooms for? If they are for placement, can I get the net

Re: [PEDA] New Netlisting Problem

2002-05-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> But there is a better way; once one understands why a no-connection error > is being found -- the most obvious and common is that the pin is > intentionally unconnected -- one should put a No-ERC directive on top of > the error marker; you will never again have to see that error. In fact, > it's

Re: [PEDA] Protel DXP beta testing

2002-05-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> by the financial types. Looks like I'm stuck with P99SEsp6, warts and all, > until that next entrepeneur gets going. Hmmm, my degree is in computer > science (I started out doing mostly programming), and I've now got a lot of > experience designing PC boards so I also know the user side of thing

[PEDA] board warp question

2002-05-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: I have a double sided PCB about 4 x 4 in. square, supported by mounting holes, 1 in each corner. I want to pour a polygon ground plane on the top side. The plane will cover probably about 80% of the board area. There will be no plane on the bottom side. Am I going to have a proble

Re: [PEDA] round PCB?

2002-05-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
day, May 10, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] round PCB? > I'm trying to imagine a 'round board going through a wave > soldering machine. > > Jeff Stout > > - Original Message - > From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "

[PEDA] round PCB?

2002-05-10 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: A customer asked us to design a round (circular) PCB for them. We have never designed a round PCB before. Any special Protel techniques, tips, or gotchas we should know about before starting? It is not a high-tech board, single sided only, TH for wave solder assembly, to be

Re: [PEDA] Protel on Lindows

2002-05-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> wrong scale and cost me money, I couldn't blame Altium for poor code. And what happens when you CAN blame Altium for poor code? Nothing, right? So what difference does it make who you can blame? Of course, I you want/have to play the blame game, you could still claim it's Altium's fault, or L

Re: [PEDA] recovering data

2002-05-07 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> I have about one drive crash, physical crash, per year. > I'm convinced the technology the drives are built on is less reliable > that 10 years ago. It may be that the pressure to deliver makes > these companies deliver too quick. Interesting. My experience is exactly the opposite. I can't re

Re: [PEDA] recovering data

2002-04-30 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yeah, I think ZIP drives are pretty lame now. They were a good idea a few years ago, but when CD-R/RW came out and got cheap, ZIP drives are dinosaurs now. I don't understand Matt's claim that CD's aren't reliable. If you handle them carefully (don't use them as coasters and keep your greasy fi

Re: [PEDA] Barred (active low) text

2002-04-29 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
I don't use the bar anymore (NOT drinking humor). It is not "portable". That is, you can't see it in a netlist, and you can't use it in [insert your favorite HDL here]. Why not use '#', '-', or 'n' as a prefix for negative-logic signals? The 'n' is portable to every HDL I have ever heard of (pr

Re: [PEDA] PADS translation error

2002-04-22 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Sorry, Lloyd, this won't help you because it's just a rant, but: Has anyone heard of any efforts to adopt a REAL universal information format? I don't mean phony attempts such "EDA frameworks" as we've all been hearing from marketdroids for decades now, but something like XML? I don't know much

[PEDA] clearance rule question

2002-04-09 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Here's one for all you 99SE gurus. I am trying to prevent the autorouter from putting vias within the boundary of a certain footprint. I tried creating a routing clearance rule: 10 mil min. between Footprint JP1 and Object Kind via. That didn't work - the autorouter ignored it. How do I set u

Re: [PEDA] Rubberbanding

2002-04-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Yes, but not in a way that you will find satisfactory in the Schematic module. Most of the time you will have to delete and redraw the wires in SCH. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - From: "SHAWN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Prote

Re: [PEDA] Parts and Vendors

2002-04-03 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Rob: >From what I can tell, doesn't P&V store parts data in Microsoft Access format? If so, did you guys ever try to run a query to produce inventory costs that were usable by the accounting dept? We have considered P&V before, but were always hesitant, because we didn't know if it would improv

Re: [PEDA] Importing Pads to Protel

2002-03-21 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
If you want to import from the PADS v3.0 (DOS app), you need to import the PADS .ASC (ASCII) file into Protel v3.X. Then you can save it as a Protel file and bring it into 99SE or whatever. Best regards, Ivan Baggett Bagotronix Inc. website: www.bagotronix.com - Original Message - Fro

Re: [PEDA] Protel big gripe

2002-03-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Thanks to all the folks who suggested setting the "read-only" file attribute. I already knew I could do this, but I usually forget to do it until after I have opened the file, then it's too late! Just one more thing I have to keep track of, that I shouldn't have to keep track of... Best regards

Re: [PEDA] Moore's law WAS: spaces in footprint names

2002-03-15 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
s, and the > problem with AI now is not really computing power, but the programming problem. Yes, this is getting off topic, but it's important for us tech folks to realize that Moore's Law is NOT a law of nature. It's a prediction. The law of gravity is a real, physical law o

[PEDA] Protel big gripe

2002-03-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
Hello, all: I hope Protel fixes this in future releases. I hate it when I open up a DDB file just to look at something, and it changes the file date. IT SHOULD NOT DO THAT! I use file dates to know when I last worked with that project, and this SCREWS UP that knowledge. Best regards, Ivan Bag

Re: [PEDA] spaces in footprint names

2002-03-14 Thread Bagotronix Tech Support
> Almost, but not quite. One problem with allowing case difference is that it > causes different names, as far as ASCII code is concerned, to have > identical meaning. If case difference is allowed in names, in general, it > will cause a different sort order than if it is not allowed. Yes, one can

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