To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
You say: Put on your own oxygen mask before attempting to help others, but
don't exit the airplane
until everyone else is also ready to go.
Anthony: Does 'everyone else' include those died, because you failed to help
them put
billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 10:16 AM
Anthony,
You are right that it is logically impossible to save all sentient beings, but
saving
[mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 4:16 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
ED,
You say: Of what use is a dead bodhisattva to anyone?
My suggestion: fly to Dharamsala and ask Dalai Lama. (It is an essential
--- On Fri, 26/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 November, 2010, 6:22 PM
ED,
I believe Mahayana Buddhism teaches that you should
?
Do you think these two terms describe the same experience?
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2010 7:47 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
'First
--- On Sat, 27/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 November, 2010, 12:02 AM
Anthony,
I’ll repeat again that it is my understanding
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:20 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
Yes, I used the two terms too loosely. They should represent different ideas.
For instance, Sakyamuni got enlightened first, before
ED,
You say: Of what use is a dead bodhisattva to anyone?
My suggestion: fly to Dharamsala and ask Dalai Lama. (It is an essential
mahayana teaching that you should help others before helping yourself.)
Anthony
--- On Thu, 25/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED
his miopy looking at sun,
as per a something that erases all dismissing mentions to it in internet
prayed.
With best wishes
Lluís
- Original Message -
From: Anthony Wu
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon
Llius,
It is impossible to transcend words, unless you wanted to go lower than my IQ.
Anthony
--- On Fri, 26/11/10, Lluís Mendieta lme...@intermail.es wrote:
From: Lluís Mendieta lme...@intermail.es
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26
not
work out well.
Anthony
--- On Wed, 24/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 24 November, 2010, 12:25 PM
Anthony,
I’m going
about
'we/us', I asked about YOU. Why do YOU need a deterrent against atrocities
to...
Sorry...Bill!
Anthony
--- On Wed, 24/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum
...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 25 November, 2010, 10:06 AM
Anthony,
My comments are embedded below:
Bill,
Under your guidance, I lost my ability to commit atrocities. But the whole
human socieity
Kristy,
Thank you. Can you explain further who is Blaise Pascal?
Anthony
--- On Tue, 23/11/10, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 8:20
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 4:02 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
Then I answer you as follows:
We need a deterrent to make Hitler and the like gentle lambs, so that they can
be your companions
Kristy, You could say the same about Jesus…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Kristy McClain
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Gentlemen,
God, it was good! Sadly
healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 5:42 AM
Anthony,
I don't think you are wrong at all about this. I'm not a Catholic, but the
Pope has a lot
of karma?
I will look for the biography you mentioned. Thanks!
Kristy
--- On Thu, 11/18/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 5:16 PM
wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 10:10 AM
Anthony,
You're easily shocked!
You've mixed two classes of religions here: Buddhism that teaches karma and the
family
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 12:23 PM
Anthony,
In the paragraph below you say ‘…we need a deterrent against atrocities…’. Why
do YOU (not Pol Pot, not Hitler, not Chris, not Bill!) need a deterrent against
atrocities
...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 12:06 PM
Kristy,
I think you are saying you are an agnostic. Many are the same. Deep in my
heart, I hold the same point of view
wishes
Lluís
- Original Message -
From: Kristy McClain
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Anthony,
I don't have, or really need a theory. I do not believe we had
previous
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
Before I answer your question, please answer the following first:
Who says even if God did not exist, we should create one.
Why did he say that?
Anthony
--- On Mon, 22/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 6:03 AM
Hi, all
Not zen, just meaning
-Beleiving is the confirmation that we do not know. If you know, you do not
beleive, you *know*
-As my teacher in inorganic chemistry said we
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010, 7:47 AM
Anthony,
I do not know who said that. I have heard it before however. I’ll guess either
Karl Marx or Frederic Nietzsche…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo
if you're wrong? He replied, Then I still win.
They told him it didn't quite work that way.
Back to my grant...k
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday
Bill / Anthony,
You did not ask me this, but now I'm curious. I thought that Blaise Pascal
wrote this. k
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday
book
Bill / Anthony,
You did not ask me this, but now I'm curious. I thought that Blaise Pascal
wrote this. k
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday
Anthony,
Hey! That’s not fair! I did answer your question. My answer was ‘I don’t
know’.
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 7:10 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 20, 2010, 9:31 PM
On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:18, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Gosh-- I didn't realize you lived
the Land of the Red Guard
--- On Sun, 21/11/10, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday
Ed,
Yes, I know this-- but you didn't really address my question.
How can you be certain these accounts are the divine intentions of God? Could
they reflect mankind trying to understand the world around them, and assert
their perceptions are inspired by God?
My point is-- Maybe its
: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 21 November, 2010, 10:20 AM
Ed,
I certainly respect your position on this, but after looking at the link you
gave, I have a queston...
If the Bible and other events were recorded by mortal humans, how can
ED,
There is a difference between the Hitler/Pol Pot group and the likes of
GWB/Blair. The former intentionally kill and torture innocent, while the latter
think it is an unfortunate result of thier 'justified' actions.
Anthony
Advocate of evil capitalism.
--- On Sun, 21/11/10, ED
: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 21, 2010, 2:09 PM
Kristy,
The problem is the Pope still thinks the Old Testament, which is full of
horrifying stories, is part of Christianity. If I am wrong, please
/18/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 18, 2010, 5:16 PM
Kristy,
It is not true that belief in karma creates fear rather than compassion
: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
I am shocked that you think karma can be invalidated by worshipping God!
Anthony
--- On Sat, 20/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum
ED,
If you maintain
there will always be a reciprocating tit for tat
, are
you saying that there can be no end to this?
Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of ED
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:20 PM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
, November 22, 2010 4:03 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Chris,
If Hitler and Pol Pot were alive, they would not testify whether their
conscience suffered. On the other hand, Hitler would have continued his
nightmares without killing 10 million Jews
Gentlemen,
God, it was good! Sadly, the evidence no longer exists... k
--- On Sun, 11/21/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 21
ED,
Karma applies with the same force to those who commit atrocities and those who
revenge themselves. Suicide bombing can only prolong the working of karma.
Contrary to what you say, the UK played a different role in the 1940s. They
withdrew leaving weapons and materials to the Arab, while
...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 20 November, 2010, 9:23 AM
As most of you already know I believe karma as understood of a kind of
'spiritual cause-and-effect' is illusory - both the short- and long
Bill,
I am shocked that you think karma can be invalidated by worshipping God!
Anthony
--- On Sat, 20/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 20, 2010, at 13:03, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Bill,
Chris' theory applies to you and Chris himself, but not to someone like
Hitler or Pol Pot. They committed atrocities without compunction. No
suffering in any part
Ed,
I certainly respect your position on this, but after looking at the link you
gave, I have a queston...
If the Bible and other events were recorded by mortal humans, how can you be
certain these accounts are the divine intentions of God? Could they reflect
mankind trying to understand
On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:18, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
Gosh-- I didn't realize you lived in CA. For some reason, I thought you lived
in MD.
I have been in California only two years and on this list constantly refer to
my Maryland teacher and Sangha as I have not found a
...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 November, 2010, 9:28 AM
On Nov 18, 2010, at 16:23, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Your action
ED,
Again I acclaim your good presentation on karma.
After all, what do you believe and act. Would you embrace Abrahamic religion to
enjoy bypassing of karma, and further 72 virgins?
Anthony
--- On Fri, 19/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject:
of merit. If I
were to believe in karma it would be something along these lines.
...Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 6:11 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Anthony,
That’s me!
…Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:13 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Chris,
You are not alone. We see the world the way
Chris,
You already posted sufficiently, so I retract my effort. Thank you.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 18/11/10, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Cc
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 9:57 AM
Anthony,
No THEORY or CONCEPT is absolutely any better than another. One theory may fit
the observed 'facts' better in one circumstance, and another competing theory
may fit
Bill,
Good moderation.
Anthony
--- On Thu, 18/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 10:03 AM
Anthony,
If you
...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 3:19 PM
Kristy,
I don't mean to start a new thread, but you can deny karma, as much as you do
Newton's Law. However, you keep seeing things that cannot be explained away
ignore gravity and fly in the
sky.
Anthony
--- On *Thu, 18/11/10, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com* wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 5:25 AM
Anthony
/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 3:19 PM
Kristy,
I don't mean to start a new thread, but you can deny karma, as much as you do
you believe?
Anthony
--- On Fri, 19/11/10, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 19 November, 2010, 7:02 AM
Anthony,
One problem I have with karma
, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 3:19 PM
Kristy,
I don't mean to start a new thread, but you can deny karma, as much as you do
Newton's
On Nov 18, 2010, at 16:23, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
Your action has immediate consequences, as well as those afterwards.
Worrying about those long term effects strikes me as being like worrying about
what is the outcome of history or
life. Who knows.
(Worrying here in the sense
Ok.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 18, 2010, at 13:10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
You already posted sufficiently, so I retract my effort. Thank you.
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or
Hi Anthony:
I have anything to add to JMJM peaceful mail.
Mayka
--- On Tue, 16/11/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 16
Bill:
You would have been in your right not to give a reply to malicious posting.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date
ED;
Your insults are no more than the evidence of what you're really about. To be
honest with you, if I would a moderator on this website I would put your
posting under moderation. We don't go to your blog or to your Jewish Church to
create discord or spread poison. But you've been doing that
ED:
Your posts do have a tendency to come off as being sly and a bit mean, despite
your claim to have transcended karma, I mean Judeo-Christian notions of
morality.
You will recall that Mayka's posts also rub some people the wrong way, a
phenomenon that has been thoroughly dissected here
is to create
discord and be destructive.
Mayka
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 15:18
Hi Ed
You said: '...truths emerge...'?
Really?
Rose
--- On Wed, 11/17/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 2010, 3:41 PM
On Nov 17, 2010, at 7:41, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
I do believe that the way you experience me and others is reality for
you.
That seems fundamentally wrong to me. There is just reality. You can try to cut
reality into That other persons reality anytime we try to let you know
, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 15:18
ED:
Your posts do have a tendency to come off as being sly
Hi ED,
I don't find anyone strange. Just delusional, including myself. We are
all the same.
All perception is a mental act of the ego, because perception is based
on transient form.
No one should make anyone sit up and take notice of anyone. The least
is me, I don't deserve no notice.
Chris:
ED is right here. I could have choose to be quiet but I didn't. I knew what I
was doing at the time of posting. And if public posting have prevented a more
escalated damage in the forum, I'm more than happy to receive the insults.
They do not affect me in the least. They're just
Hi ED,
You have been quoting a lot from the dictionary. Is this where you find
truth?
Mayka has asked you numerous times, what is your personal insight? What
do you experience?
I have yet to read your answer.
You have commented, analyzed, or perhaps even criticized posts from
other
Thank you, Ed. Very clear now. By now everyone in the forum has
learned from your posting.
Whatever I posted has no value. Awakening got to come from within for
everyone of us. And each of us is unique. Each journey is unique.
Do experience your own. It is amazing once you try.
Just
JMJM;
Thank you very much for the compassionate heart behind your posting. ED
ignorance shines in his reply to you. A bit of internet garbage feeding the
lotus flower. ^_^
Mayka
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re:
ED,
Bodhidharma was not bored by 'just this', so he sat facing the wall for nine
years, though a naughty boy pricked his arm with a needle from time to time.
That is why he is the First Patriarch.
Anthony
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED
Chris,
I want you to post more. How do I upset you more?
Anthony
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17
healthypl...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 18 November, 2010, 5:25 AM
Anthony,
That simply proves that God has a good sense of humor.
Kristy
--- On Wed, 11/17/10, Anthony
.
Anthony
--- On *Wed, 17/11/10, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
/chan.j...@gmail.com/* wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 chan.j...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 6:20 AM
Anthony,
Your
...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, 17 November, 2010, 11:18 PM
ED:
Your posts do have a tendency to come off as being sly and a bit mean
, no theories,
Just THIS!
...Bill!
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:zen_fo...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Anthony Wu
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 4:21 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Kristy,
If karma did not exist, why were you born a smart
] Re: FW: Amazon book
Chris,
I want you to post more. How do I upset you more?
Anthony
--- On Wed, 17/11/10, ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: ChrisAustinLane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Zen_Forum
ED:
Thank you for both links. It's been particularly interesting reading
controversial Brad W reply in connection with Big Mind and Genpo Roshi...and my
conclusion about the whole thing is, that hearts feel profoundly grateful for
having found Thich Nhat Hanh dharma in those years in which
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From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 11:17
ED:
Thank you for both links. It's been particularly interesting reading
controversial Brad W reply in connection
has his own blog on exercise prescription.
Have a super day..
Kristy
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net wrote:
From: Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010
ED;
It sounds as a healthy approach. Let's just hope that the fun won't be at
the expenses of anyone. Thank you for not taking an offence for the direct
questioning. It says a lot of good about you.
Mayka
--- On Tue, 16/11/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED
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Anthony
--- On Tue, 16/11/10, Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com wrote:
From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 7:17 PM
ED:
Thank you for both links. It's been
Ed,
Well then, it seems we all are underwhelmed by Gempo...k
--- On Tue, 11/16/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 10:43 AM
Kristy,
My (slight)
Anthony,
You are starting with a premise that karma exists. How do you know it does? k
--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 1:13
, 16/11/10, Maria Lopez /flordel...@btinternet.com/* wrote:
From: Maria Lopez flordel...@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 16 November, 2010, 7:17 PM
/ED:/
/ /
/Thank you for both links. It's been
:08 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Ed,
Well then, it seems we all are underwhelmed by Gempo...k
--- On Tue, 11/16/10, ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: ED seacrofter...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 15 November, 2010, 11:58 AM
Anthony,
Not to interrupt the dialogue here, but I happened to see this when searching a
medical topic. *!*??($...@^
Have you read this? I'm assuming no one
: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 2:54 PM
Kristy,
If you are conducting a survey, I am a 1 star, dragging down the number.
I am interested in the Buddhist exploration of sex. Probably you can give a
short description
expertise..
Be well,
Kristy
--- On Mon, 11/15/10, Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg wrote:
From: Anthony Wu wu...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 2:54 PM
Kristy,
If you are conducting a survey, I
...@yahoo.com.sg
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 2:54 PM
Kristy,
If you are conducting a survey, I am a 1 star, dragging down the number.
I am interested in the Buddhist exploration of sex. Probably you can give a
short
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Kristy McClain healthypl...@yahoo.comwrote:
Chris,
To the contrary. I do not recommend Big Mind , necessarily. In fact, I
have said here that it is not a process that works for me. It seems a bit
like group therapy, but not about zen. I know it well, as I
Anthony,
Not to interrupt the dialogue here, but I happened to see this when searching a
medical topic. *!*??($...@^
Have you read this? I'm assuming no one here is buying from Amazon...
Have a good week:) k
Sex, Sin, and Zen: A Buddhist Exploration of Sex from Celibacy to
: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:59 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Anthony,
Not to interrupt the dialogue here, but I happened to see this when searching a
medical topic. *!*??($...@^
Have you read this? I'm assuming no one here is buying from
or don't we?
But actually, I was just asking Anthony if he knew of this book?
Be well:)
Kristy
--- On Sun, 11/14/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
I have read this. I have read all of his books. He has a certain punk style of
writing that will put off some, but this book is basically a straightforward
discussion of various apparent dilemmas of sexuality for modern Western
Buddhists.
Brad Warner is from a Soto Zen lineage, and pretty
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Kristy McClain
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:37 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
Bill,
I know. I have bought as well. I was just referring to the recent *buzz*
over the How
, 11/14/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
From: billsm...@hhs1963.org billsm...@hhs1963.org
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: FW: Amazon book
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 9:07 PM
Kristy,
I buy from Amazon occasionally, and plan to continue
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