Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem

2001-03-05 Thread Phil Geller
Title: Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem



Does anyone know what to make of an Error 105 - Device Problem? We're using
an Onstream FW30 drive. The problem seems to occur only when a backup is
scheduled, not when it is done on-demand. Originally we were running Mac OS
8.6 and old FireWire drivers. We updated to Mac OS 9.04 and FireWire
drivers 2.5, but the problem persists.

Puzzled,

Phil Geller
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Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem

2001-03-05 Thread Phil Geller

Does anyone know what to make of an Error 105 - Device Problem?  We're using
an Onstream FW30 drive.  The problem seems to occur only when a backup is
scheduled, not when it is done on-demand.  Originally we were running Mac OS
8.6 and old FireWire drivers.  We updated to Mac OS 9.04 and FireWire
drivers 2.5, but the problem persists.

Puzzled,

Phil Geller
WorkingMacs
Macintosh Consulting for the Small Office and Home Office
voice: 650 493-8689
fax:   650 493-8587



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Re: Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem

2001-03-05 Thread Jeff Grossman
Title: Re: Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem



Where can I find Firewire Drivers 2.5?

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Subject: Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem

Does anyone know what to make of an Error 105 - Device Problem? We're using
an Onstream FW30 drive. The problem seems to occur only when a backup is
scheduled, not when it is done on-demand. Originally we were running Mac OS
8.6 and old FireWire drivers. We updated to Mac OS 9.04 and FireWire
drivers 2.5, but the problem persists.







Re: Onstream FW30 - Error 105 Device Problem

2001-03-05 Thread Jon Stevens

on 3/5/01 11:21 AM, "Jeff Grossman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Where can I find Firewire Drivers 2.5?
 
 Jeff

The obvious place: Apple.com

http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n11838?OpenDocument

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Re: Error -36 (i/o error, bad media?)

2001-03-01 Thread David Ross

The drive where the shap shots are stored is full or corrupt. I had a
similar one a while back and it turned out the drive directory was all
messed up.

 Up until recently, I was running Retrospect 4.3 on a Power Mac 9600, and
 backing up servers and workstations (I work for a book publisher) to a
 Quantum DLT8000 tape drive. A few weeks ago, however, I got a brand new
 G4/466. It's a fairly standard setup (512MB RAM, 30GB IDE HD, Adaptec 2906
 SCSI card, Adaptec 2940UW card, Virex 5.9.1). However, as soon as I ran a
 backup, I began receiving client errors similar to the following
 
 -2/28/2001 11:02:17 PM: Copying Susan McBride on Susan McBride
  Couldn't write Snapshot, error -36 (i/o error, bad media?)
  2/28/2001 11:22:11 PM: 1 execution errors
  Completed: 2479 files, 1.7 GB
  Performance: 85.2 MB/minute
  Duration: 00:19:54 (00:00:13 idle/loading/preparing)
 
 This happens both during normal and recycle backups, but not on all
 machines. Each computer generates a single error during the backup. In
 addition, I receive numerous errors on my G4 (940 of them this morning, as a
 matter of fact), similar to the following
 
 -   Can't read file 3Macintosh HD:Applications (Mac OS 9):Acrobat Reader
 4.0:Resource:CMap:AdobeFnt.lst2, error -36 (i/o error, bad media?).
 
 These files, obviously, aren't getting backed up.
 
 Norton Utilities doesn't show anything amiss on the hard drive, and I've run
 other utilities as well. I have dumped preferences, reinstalled Retrospect
 (along with the ADK v1.8 and Driver Update 2.1), swapped out media, and
 recreated my backup scripts. The computer works great, except for this
 little problem. Looking at the restore options, the snapshots look fine, and
 I can restore files, even from the backups that are generating errors. But
 still, I get this error every morning...and that makes me nervous.


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Re: Error -36 (i/o error, bad media?)

2001-03-01 Thread Pam Lefkowitz

On 3/1/2001 7:37 AM, "Brian Caskey" wrote:

 The computer works great, except for this
 little problem. Looking at the restore options, the snapshots look fine, and
 I can restore files, even from the backups that are generating errors. But
 still, I get this error every morning...and that makes me nervous.

Experience tells me that if Retrospect is saying there's a problem, then
there's a problem. You might try running DiskWarrior on the drive. It
frequently fixes things that Norton doesn't (you don't say what version of
Norton you're using or what version of the OS is running, btw). Of course,
just because the computer is new doesn't mean it's perfect. Sometimes even
new stuff doesn't work (don't even get me started here...).

Also check the PowerDomain control panel to be sure the scsi cards are
configured correctly.

It's also possible that your cables inside the computer aren't connected
perfectly. You might want to reseat the ATA cable to the drive.

Just some thoughts,

Pam



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Re: Error -36 (i/o error, bad media?)

2001-03-01 Thread Irena Solomon

Hello,

Sometimes the Disk First Aid utility and even Norton can not detect the -36
error. 

Apple's Drive Setup does not do a "low level format" on IDE hard disks,
which means that bad blocks (-36 errors) will not be fixed by using the
format option in Drive Setup. Zero all data is also not helpful.

You should run the "test disk" option in Drive Setup. This will look for and
repair bad blocks (sector sparing as Apple calls it).

Apple's TIL entry for this error:

Type -36 error (I/O Errors) This file is having difficulty while
either reading from the drive or writing to the drive. The file may have
been improperly written data to the drive or the hard drive or disk may be
damaged. This is almost always indicative of a media error (hard error on
the disk). Sometimes (rarely) it is transient.

Solutions: Try copying the file to another drive. Use a disk recovery
software, such as Disk First Aid to examine the disk. You can try rebooting
with all extensions off. Once in a while this will allow you to read the
data. The file in question should be restored from a backup that was stored
on a different disk. Regular backups can reduce the time to recover from
this error.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Technical Support
925.253.3050

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 From: Pam Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Error -36 (i/o error, bad media?)
 
 On 3/1/2001 7:37 AM, "Brian Caskey" wrote:
 
 The computer works great, except for this
 little problem. Looking at the restore options, the snapshots look fine, and
 I can restore files, even from the backups that are generating errors. But
 still, I get this error every morning...and that makes me nervous.
 
 Experience tells me that if Retrospect is saying there's a problem, then
 there's a problem. You might try running DiskWarrior on the drive. It
 frequently fixes things that Norton doesn't (you don't say what version of
 Norton you're using or what version of the OS is running, btw). Of course,
 just because the computer is new doesn't mean it's perfect. Sometimes even
 new stuff doesn't work (don't even get me started here...).
 
 Also check the PowerDomain control panel to be sure the scsi cards are
 configured correctly.
 
 It's also possible that your cables inside the computer aren't connected
 perfectly. You might want to reseat the ATA cable to the drive.
 
 Just some thoughts,
 
 Pam



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error 5 (unknown) on Windows client

2001-02-22 Thread NetHead

Greetings all.

Just in the last couple of days, one of my Windows clients has started 
returning the following error message:

"Can't access volume DISK (C:) on WIN_CLIENT, error 5 (unknown)"

The client computer is running Windows 98 with Retro client 5.1 for 
windows.

The backup station is a Mac Workgroup Server 8150 running MacOS 8.5.1 and 
Retro 4.3. (The ASIP software is no longer running on this machine)

I have searched Dantz's site for info on this error message, but to no 
avail. Hopefully someone here will have some insight.

TIA,





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Re: G4s and error 519 - AN UPDATE

2001-02-22 Thread matt barkdull

Here's an oddity.  I used to get a lot of 519 errors when I had DAT 
tape changers, but since switching to DLT I hardly have any problems 
and the problems I do have are directly related to the end users 
machine.

I ran DLT on a mixed 10BaseT with Hubs and switches for about 6 
months before I moved to a new building and have 10/100 switched 
(Cisco 5500's) network.  All of the machines I back up now are 
100BaseT full Duplex.  The Mac I was doing the backups on is a 
9600/G4-450.   The machine I am currently doing the backups on is a 
7600/G3-250.   I built a cable to connect the external DLT drive to 
the internal SCSI bus. because the internal bus is SCSI-2 Fast 
(10MB/sec) while the external connector is only SCSI-2 (5MB/Sec).

The speed difference between the two machines only dropped 2-3MB/min 
on average (averaging about 100MB/min).   The 7600 is a good 
combination.  Low volume Filemaker Server during the day, Retrospect 
backups at night.


One of the previous messages indicated the problem occuring on a 10T
network, otherwise I'd suspect the (presumably OT) problem might be getting
exposed by the higher throughput now that the G3 backup machine is on 100T,
as the G4 has always been.  Can anyone else confirm seeing the problem on a
10T only network?

Absolutley - we see it on a 10T unswitched network that can be as 
slow as...insert your favourite cliche here... that said it does 
seem to fail more often when there is less overall network traffic 
(ie the middle of the night) and the throughput is higher.  No 519s 
using AppleTalk (and I have checked and all the G4s have different 
node numbers so that is not the problem in our case)

Our backup machine is 7300/180 with an AdvanSys UltraWide SCSI card 
to a Sony DDS-4 drive.

Adrian Smith



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519 Error disconnects ASIP server

2001-02-22 Thread Bob Durst

Just encountered a bad situation. I had turned off file and mail 
servers on my ASIP server to run a RS backup. During the backup 
something happened and RS shows a 519 error and of course quit 
backing up. Upon checking on the server, I discovered that it was 
running just fine, but no longer thought that it was connected to 
ethernet. Trying to reconnect it from the CP was futile, as it would 
never make the connection. I was forced to restart the server to 
reestablish a network connection.

Backups of Share points have been occurring flawlessly for some time.

Anyone have a clue what might have happened and how to prevent this 
in the future? We had been having trouble with backups failing and 
thought that we had solved the problem (bad VXA drive), but some of 
the symptoms earlier are frighteningly similar to what just occurred.

Configuration: ASIP 6.3.3 on G4 with 9.0.4 with the latest upgrades. 
RS 4.3 running on a separate Mac (ASIP is a client). Server had been 
up for 10 days when this occurred.

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Re: error 5 (unknown) on Windows client

2001-02-22 Thread David Ross

 Just in the last couple of days, one of my Windows clients has started
 returning the following error message:
 
 "Can't access volume DISK (C:) on WIN_CLIENT, error 5 (unknown)"
 
 The client computer is running Windows 98 with Retro client 5.1 for
 windows.

Anytime I have retro not finding a disk I do the following. It almost
always fixes the problem.

I have all my clients volumes set up via the Selected volumes option in
the client configuration window.

Hilite all the volumes. Hit Delete and answer yes. What will be left are
the one that the client can see at this time. Hilite all of these and go
fix your backup scripts and groups as needed.


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Re: G4s and error 519 - AN UPDATE

2001-02-20 Thread David Oberst

 We are having problems backing up G4s over the network. Basically, they get
 part way through the backup and then Retrospect looses the connection. The
 problem seems to be at the G4 end as once this has happened they have lost
 network connectivity until the next restart (sleep and waking seems to
 restore it as well).

 Back in November I started a thread on problems we were having
 getting G4s to backup over our 10Mb Ethernet network...
 
 Just to update everyone, we have found that switching the clients to
 AppleTalk rather than TCP/IP has eliminated all the errors we were
 experiencing (As suggested by Brooks Peters in the thread "G4
 Client's OT Wiped Out by Backup via TCP/IP"). The backup is not as
 quite as fast (say 40 MB/min vs 50) but it does work.

A timely thread!  I just today moved our DAT drive (HP SureStore DDS-3
external) from one machine to another, and copied all the Retrospect stuff
to make it the new machine.  I've immediately got this 519 error backing up
my own G4.

The old Retro backup machine was a beige G3-266 desktop, motherboard 10T
Ethernet, running 9.0.4.  The new machine is a beige G3-300 desktop, Asante
10/100 card, 9.0.4, and using a Miles Bluenote SCSI card instead of the
motherboard SCSI port.  My G4 machine is a 400Mhz "Yosemite" (AGP graphics)
version.  I haven't been having problems with it until the move.

One of the previous messages indicated the problem occuring on a 10T
network, otherwise I'd suspect the (presumably OT) problem might be getting
exposed by the higher throughput now that the G3 backup machine is on 100T,
as the G4 has always been.  Can anyone else confirm seeing the problem on a
10T only network?

Our other two G4 machines are the older 400Mhz "Yikes" motherboards (PCI
Graphics) from the original introduction, and so far I haven't seen 519
errors from them.  We just got two new 533Mhz G4s, with 9.1, and I'll see if
they have a problem, or if 9.1 makes the problem go away on the AGP G4, and
post the results here.
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Re: G4s and error 519 - update of the update

2001-02-20 Thread Nicholas Froome


  Just to update everyone, we have found that switching the clients to
 AppleTalk rather than TCP/IP has eliminated all the errors we were
 experiencing (As suggested by Brooks Peters in the thread "G4
 Client's OT Wiped Out by Backup via TCP/IP"). The backup is not as
  quite as fast (say 40 MB/min vs 50) but it does work.



A timely thread!  I just today moved our DAT drive (HP SureStore DDS-3
external) from one machine to another, and copied all the Retrospect stuff
to make it the new machine.  I've immediately got this 519 error backing up
my own G4.

We have 519's like a rash when backing up over a mixed 10/100 network using 3Com 
SuperStack 10/100 autoswitching hubs. Backup server is a beige G3 266 tower with a 
DDS-2 DAT drive.

519's are the order of the day with the one G4 machione. It has work files on an 
external 12 Gb FireWire drive and I think we've only once had an error-free backup. 
Changing to AppleTalk did not help in any way.

Some days most machines (20+) give a 519 which makes me think network or backup server.

I am going to test a Cisco Catalyst Switch (with Spanning Tree turned off) and see 
what happens.



Regards


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Re: G4s and error 519 - update of the update

2001-02-20 Thread Pam Lefkowitz

On 2/20/2001 6:45 AM, "Nicholas Froome" wrote:

 
 We have 519's like a rash when backing up over a mixed 10/100 network using
 3Com SuperStack 10/100 autoswitching hubs. Backup server is a beige G3 266
 tower with a DDS-2 DAT drive.

Take a look at the autosensing on the Macs. There is an update on the Apple
site that forces either 10 or 100 and doesn't allow the autosensing to
happen. This has cleared up many network issues.

Pam



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Re: G4s and error 519 - AN UPDATE

2001-02-16 Thread Adrian Smith

Back in November I started a thread on problems we were having 
getting G4s to backup over our 10Mb Ethernet network...

Just to update everyone, we have found that switching the clients to 
AppleTalk rather than TCP/IP has eliminated all the errors we were 
experiencing (As suggested by Brooks Peters in the thread "G4 
Client's OT Wiped Out by Backup via TCP/IP"). The backup is not as 
quite as fast (say 40 MB/min vs 50) but it does work.

Now if we could just nail the problem we are still having with the 
tape drive and 102 errors we would be all set...

Adrian

PS We have not tried any of the G4s with TCP/IP and OS9.1 yet. I 
would be interesting to know if 9.1 fixed the problems but as it 
ain't broke...

At 4:19 PM +1100 22/11/00, Adrian Smith wrote:
Hi all,
   We are having problems backing up G4s over the network. 
Basically, they get part way through the backup and then Retrospect 
looses the connection. The problem seems to be at the G4 end as once 
this has happened they have lost network connectivity until the next 
restart (sleep and waking seems to restore it as well). This seems 
to be the problem that was addressed by the "Ethernet Update 1.0" 
and our network does seem to come close to the type of network 
described in the Apple TIL on the subject. HOWEVER, installing the 
Ethernet Update doesn't fix the problem, although it may have made 
it a little better (the backup SEEMS to get a bit further).

So, does anyone know how complete a fix the Ethernet Update was? Are 
there reports of G4s still having network problems?

Does anyone have any suggestions for a workaround?

Any other suggestions as to the cause? We have had zero problems 
backing up an iMac, a beigeG3 and an LCIII but the three G4s (and my 
Powerbook (firewire) which we just tested) seem to fail almost every 
time...

Thanks
Adrian


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Re: -24007 error backing up NT server

2001-01-15 Thread NetHead

Wasn't it retro-talk who once said...

Subject: Re: -24007 error backing up NT server
From: "Irena Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 12:05:49 -0800

Also ensure that all files have the security permissions set to allow read
access or higher to administrators, and that the Retrospect client software
was installed while logged in as Administrator.

Regards,


[snip]

Subject: RE: -24007 error backing up NT server
From: "Scott Dunn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:48:48 -0800

I would suggest checking the logon settings for the Retrospect client
service in the Services Control Panel.  Make sure that the service logs on
as THE administrator account for that machine.  This will provide complete
access to the hard drive.  Keep in mind that just using an account with
administrative privileges is not enough.  Especially domain admin accounts.
I've tried both of those and failed.  When I used the admin account for the
machine, it worked fine.

Okay, well I seem to have things working now. It was a "security" 
permissions issue at a lower level. Apparently some "new" folders did not 
automatically adopt the parent folder's permissions. I'm back in the game 
now. Thanks for the suggestions. They did, ultimately, lead me in the 
right direction.



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RE: -24007 error backing up NT server

2001-01-11 Thread Scott Dunn

I would suggest checking the logon settings for the Retrospect client
service in the Services Control Panel.  Make sure that the service logs on
as THE administrator account for that machine.  This will provide complete
access to the hard drive.  Keep in mind that just using an account with
administrative privileges is not enough.  Especially domain admin accounts.
I've tried both of those and failed.  When I used the admin account for the
machine, it worked fine.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Of NetHead
 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 5:49 AM
 To: RetroTalk
 Subject: -24007 error backing up NT server


 I'm using Retrospect 4.3 on a Mac to backup almost all of the
 computers
 on my network. Among these is an NT 4.0 server (service pack
 6a). I've
 configured the Macshare volumes per Dantz's recommendations, but I am
 having problems with some of the non-Mac spaces. There is in fact one
 whole directory that seems to generate a -24007 "Access
 denied" error. I
 could find no reference to this error at Dantz's site, so I
 thought I'd
 check with the list. I'm no NT whiz by any means, so be
 gentle. I do know
 the basics of setting permissions and such. I've checked all
 of those I
 don't see any glaring problems. I even set up a user with the
 name of my
 Mac and gave it Administrator-type privileges, thinking maybe
 that would
 work. Perhaps I am still missing something. Any ideas?




 
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-24007 error backing up NT server

2001-01-10 Thread NetHead

I'm using Retrospect 4.3 on a Mac to backup almost all of the computers 
on my network. Among these is an NT 4.0 server (service pack 6a). I've 
configured the Macshare volumes per Dantz's recommendations, but I am 
having problems with some of the non-Mac spaces. There is in fact one 
whole directory that seems to generate a -24007 "Access denied" error. I 
could find no reference to this error at Dantz's site, so I thought I'd 
check with the list. I'm no NT whiz by any means, so be gentle. I do know 
the basics of setting permissions and such. I've checked all of those I 
don't see any glaring problems. I even set up a user with the name of my 
Mac and gave it Administrator-type privileges, thinking maybe that would 
work. Perhaps I am still missing something. Any ideas?





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RE: -24007 error backing up NT server

2001-01-10 Thread Joel Moore

Are you using Retrospect Client on the NT Server or are you using network
shares?

If you are using shares, there are two sets of permissions that are in
effect--the share permissions and the file permissions.  Share permissions
are accessed through the "Sharing" tab of the properties dialog for the
shared folder.

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Joel Moore

 -Original Message-
 From: NetHead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:49 AM
 To: RetroTalk
 Subject: -24007 error backing up NT server
 
 
 I'm using Retrospect 4.3 on a Mac to backup almost all of the 
 computers 
 on my network. Among these is an NT 4.0 server (service pack 
 6a). I've 
 configured the Macshare volumes per Dantz's recommendations, but I am 
 having problems with some of the non-Mac spaces. There is in fact one 
 whole directory that seems to generate a -24007 "Access 
 denied" error. I 
 could find no reference to this error at Dantz's site, so I 
 thought I'd 
 check with the list. I'm no NT whiz by any means, so be 
 gentle. I do know 
 the basics of setting permissions and such. I've checked all 
 of those I 
 don't see any glaring problems. I even set up a user with the 
 name of my 
 Mac and gave it Administrator-type privileges, thinking maybe 
 that would 
 work. Perhaps I am still missing something. Any ideas?
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: -24007 error backing up NT server

2001-01-10 Thread Irena Solomon

Also ensure that all files have the security permissions set to allow read
access or higher to administrators, and that the Retrospect client software
was installed while logged in as Administrator.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
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 Are you using Retrospect Client on the NT Server or are you using network
 shares?
 
 If you are using shares, there are two sets of permissions that are in
 effect--the share permissions and the file permissions.  Share permissions
 are accessed through the "Sharing" tab of the properties dialog for the
 shared folder.
 
 Other than that, I'm not sure.
 
 Joel Moore
 
 -Original Message-
 I'm using Retrospect 4.3 on a Mac to backup almost all of the
 computers 
 on my network. Among these is an NT 4.0 server (service pack
 6a). I've 
 configured the Macshare volumes per Dantz's recommendations, but I am
 having problems with some of the non-Mac spaces. There is in fact one
 whole directory that seems to generate a -24007 "Access
 denied" error. I
 could find no reference to this error at Dantz's site, so I
 thought I'd 
 check with the list. I'm no NT whiz by any means, so be
 gentle. I do know
 the basics of setting permissions and such. I've checked all
 of those I 
 don't see any glaring problems. I even set up a user with the
 name of my 
 Mac and gave it Administrator-type privileges, thinking maybe
 that would 
 work. Perhaps I am still missing something. Any ideas?



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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-29 Thread Mark


On Tue, 28 Nov 2000, David Ross wrote:

 If you look at how ethernet works, most of time anything you do will
 mask errors. EtherNet has error recovery built in. So an undemanding
 transfer, such as a Finder copy, will tend to get through, errors or
 not. It's those programs that really hammer the network, like a backup
 program trying to keep a tape at speed, that tend to fail.

Here's something to consider as a *possible* cause for 519 (and other
Ethernet) errors:  We have several new G3 and G4 servers that connect
directly to high-end switches via six-foot certified Cat 5e patch cables.
When these computers boot, and the switch ports are set to auto-negotiate,
both ends *always* come up full duplex.  However, if a patch cable is
briefly disconnected (or power is removed from the switch), the switch
port comes back up at *half* duplex.

A duplex mismatch can be invisible at low to moderate traffic loads on a
given connection, but at high loads the connection breaks down with
massive numbers of errors.  Accordingly, on switch ports connected to
servers we force the duplex setting to full (which probably has little or
no throughput improvement over half duplex, because of limitations in the
Mac OS).

YMMV,

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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-27 Thread David Ross

 So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that
 doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does
 nothing else complain?
 
 Yet.
 
 I copy large files from one machine to another, but that never fails
 
 Yet.
 
 That's taking a rather simplistic approach that my experience so far
 does not support. I've had no known network failures of any kind -
 except Retrospect. To simply say that I will have one day is dodging
 the issue.

If you look at how ethernet works, most of time anything you do will
mask errors. EtherNet has error recovery built in. So an undemanding
transfer, such as a Finder copy, will tend to get through, errors or
not. It's those programs that really hammer the network, like a backup
program trying to keep a tape at speed, that tend to fail.

I've seen what you describe multiple times and it's always turned out to
be a system or network problem, not a Retrospect problem. Not that that
made it any less frustrating. But I have learned that a repeating
problem being reported by Retrospect means I have a problem somewhere
that I'll have to solve at some point.

While not an expert, I have been using retrospect since about 90,
starting with those "incredibly" reliable TEAC 60MB tapes. 30 sites
later, I've still not found anything better.


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-26 Thread Ken Gillett

At 6:53 AM -0600 24/11/00, Don Foy wrote:

I want
everything perfect for a backup, since a less than perfect backup is
absolutely useless. That one byte it missed and didn't tell me about may
have been in the middle of a file that could cost me several thousands
dollars.


I agree, but in that case I'd expect file transfers around my network 
to be producing useless files since 1 byte lost will affect those 
just as much as in a backup. My point is that this is simply not 
happening.

If I can throw a 600+ Mb file from one machine to another, then IMO 
Retrospect ought to be able to back it up without falling over.


That's not a fault of Retrospect, but a feature, the way I see it.


Hmmm.


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-26 Thread Ken Gillett

At 12:52 PM -0600 24/11/00, Pam Lefkowitz wrote:
So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that
doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does
nothing else complain?

Yet.

I copy large files from one machine to another, but that never fails

Yet.


That's taking a rather simplistic approach that my experience so far 
does not support. I've had no known network failures of any kind - 
except Retrospect. To simply say that I will have one day is dodging 
the issue.


  If it is a SCSI problem, then shouldn't
Retrospect report it as such?


I've not found 519's to be SCSI issues. They are network issues. And
almost always hardware. If you're experiencing 519's on multiple servers
then I'd take a hard look at the infrastructure in place. Somewhere there
is a "frayed" cable or a port/switch/router/hub that's either failing or
getting ready to fail.


Well here's another take on the 519 errors. Can SCSI errors generate 
a 519 or not? Anyone know for sure?


Backup software should the most reliable software in use on the
network, yet Retrospect is the only software that consistently fails
to do what it is supposed to.

This *is* the most reliable software in use on your network. And, in
addition, it is probably the most useful network assessment tool you have
as well. If Retrospect is telling you that you have a network
problem...you do (or will) indeed have a network problem. Consider
looking at it as more than just backup
software...consider looking at it as a diagnostic tool. Better than any
other tool out there for finding hardware problems.


No, sorry but that's nonsense. Everything else runs 100% reliably - 
except Retrospect. Maybe it is finding little network niggles that 
exist, but all the other network software manages to work despite 
this. If Retrospect could report the problem, but continue to get the 
backup done then that would be OK.

Retrospect is NOT a network diagnostic tool. If it was then it should 
at least tell me where the fault lies, not just report some nebulous 
'network communication error'.


It does run correctly and it does run reliably.


How can you say that when I am reporting that it is the ONLY network 
product that fails to complete the task for which it is expressly 
designed to do? Maybe you have a different understanding of the word 
"reliable".

Look, I don't want to bash Dantz here, but these responses show that 
some users just blindly follow the dogma that Retrospect is perfect 
and the fault lies elsewhere. Well I'm sorry, but if I bought a car 
and the wheels kept falling off and the manufacturer insisted it was 
not their fault, it was the road surface, yet although the road was a 
bit rough, no other cars were losing their wheels, I'd say that the 
fault lies with the manufacturer who should to look at how they could 
stop the wheels falling off their car even on bumpy roads.

It would also appear that I'm not the only one whose wheels keep falling off...

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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-26 Thread Eric Ullman

Hi Ken,

The members of this list who are suggesting that your 519 errors are due to
something other than a problem with Retrospect are not doing so because they
"blindly follow the dogma that Retrospect is perfect," it's because they
have found it themselves to be true...for some of them, even after being
*certain* that there was a problem with Retrospect.

One particular user that comes to mind, Travis Morgan, had complained of 519
errors for months. Because nothing else was giving him problems, he was
fairly certain that the problem was a bug in Retrospect. Well, here's what
he finally discovered (quoted from his Nov 5, 1999 post):

   Turns out that Virex 5.9.1 (and Virex 6.0) tries to scan the MRJ
 2.x (Macintosh Runtime for Java) files when the backups are occurring
 so the Retrospect backup has to wait while the machine is done
 scanning those files. The reason for the long delay is because the
 MRJ files are compressed and I have Virex to scan compressed files.
 After turning off "Scan Compressed files" on my problematic machines,
 I haven't seen a 519 error ever since. WAH!

Reliable means one thing, Ken--you can restore with confidence. Network
communication errors limit Retrospect's reliability (that's why it reports
the error and moves on to the next task). Sure, Retrospect isn't a
diagnostic tool, but it is a canary in a coal mine; it will find problems
that don't show up otherwise. Nevertheless, those problems are every bit
real, and you will need to track them down and eliminate them to guarantee
the reliability of your backups.

Please read and follow our Tech Note on troubleshooting 519 errors.
http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=tn415 If you need help with any of
the procedures, please contact our tech support department. (925.253.3050)

I know these errors can be difficult to track down--I've done it myself. So
hang in there, call us if you need to, and have a little faith in what we're
telling you.

Best regards,

Eric Ullman
Dantz Development


Ken Gillett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Retrospect is NOT a network diagnostic tool. If it was then it should
 at least tell me where the fault lies, not just report some nebulous
 'network communication error'.
 
 How can you say that when I am reporting that it is the ONLY network
 product that fails to complete the task for which it is expressly
 designed to do? Maybe you have a different understanding of the word
 "reliable".
 
 Look, I don't want to bash Dantz here, but these responses show that
 some users just blindly follow the dogma that Retrospect is perfect
 and the fault lies elsewhere. Well I'm sorry, but if I bought a car
 and the wheels kept falling off and the manufacturer insisted it was
 not their fault, it was the road surface, yet although the road was a
 bit rough, no other cars were losing their wheels, I'd say that the
 fault lies with the manufacturer who should to look at how they could
 stop the wheels falling off their car even on bumpy roads.
 
 It would also appear that I'm not the only one whose wheels keep falling
 off...



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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-26 Thread Todd Reed

I'm having the same type of problem with a lone G4 on a small 
network. The other systems there, a blue G3, a beige tower G3 plus a 
clone and a 6100, all seem to get backed up without fail.

I tried replacing the 10Bt hub with a Linksys 10/100 hub thinking 
that would do the trick. It seemed to let the backups go a little 
longer, but supposedly the G4 is failing again to get backed up.

Has anyone tried putting a new NIC into a G4 instead of using the on 
board ethernet as a way to resolve this problem?

Todd Reed




On 11/24/00, Glenn L. Austin  emailed about  "Re: G4s and error 519":
   So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that
  doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does
  nothing else complain? I'm sure that it does hit the network hard,
  but IMO it should be written to cope with that. It should not the
  task of the customer to swap NICs or hubs or whatever until one is
  found that works. If a NIC will connect with the network then
  Retrospect should be able to use it.

I can understand your frustration, having been on the "other side" with some
products that I've worked on.  In my case, in *every* case, the software
that I wrote uncovered hardware and system problems that, when corrected,
solved other "nagging" stability problems that the users had just accepted.

In my opinion, I doubt that the problems don't affect anything else -- more
likely is that the problems that are occurring are minor enough that nobody
has reported them.

That being said, there apparently are some G4 machines that have some
problems with their ethernet interfaces.

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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-26 Thread Ken Gillett

At 9:02 AM -0800 26/11/00, Eric Ullman wrote:
  he was
fairly certain that the problem was a bug in Retrospect.


I hope you understand that is NOT what I have been suggesting.

I need to finish rebuilding my network then I can give it a good 
testing with a variety of backup servers, MacOS9 (X when available), 
Windows NT and 2000 and similar clients. We'll see what happens 
then.


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-26 Thread Steve Axthelm

I'm having the same type of problem with a lone G4 on a small 
network. The other systems there, a blue G3, a beige tower G3 plus a 
clone and a 6100, all seem to get backed up without fail.
[snip]

Just another data point:

We have 7 G4's here (early PCI to newest AGP) on our network here on 
along with 35 or so other Macs and PCs (all 100BT, almost all of them 
switched with HP switches) and the only time we get 519 errors with 
any of the machines is when they are shut down or have crashed 
(backing up to a WinNT/DDS4 box and a MacOS 9 DDS2 box). There was on 
user who was running some kind of "Reminder" program that would put 
up modal dialogs and give us a 519, but otherwise no problems here.

Good Luck!



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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-24 Thread Don Foy


Adrian.

The termination problem was on the client, which is an ASIP server. It just
took out that particular client. However, if there is a termination problem
on the Retrospect 'server' then I guess you could see 519 errors.

It sounds like you need to talk with the folks at Retrospect in person.
Their tech support is second to none and they can help better when you call.

Don


on 11/23/00 10:55 PM, Adrian Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 If you are having 519 errors, there is a problem in your setup, either
 hardware, software or network. You most likely either have a SCSI problem
 (which was the case the last time I had a 519, termination problems),
 
 Don, what were the other symptoms when you had the termination
 problem? Did it take out the whole backup or just specific clients?
 
 Unlike Ken, we have no problem with server Mac and in our case it is
 only the G4s that have the problem and only the CLIENT drops the
 network connection. The backup Mac is fine and can go on to back up
 the other clients. The client will regain the network after a restart
 or sleep. It sounds just like the symptoms of the problem that was
 supposed to fixed with the Ethernet update, expect that the Ethernet
 update doesn't fix it and when I went and checked the details (TIL
 25147) it doesn't actually seem to be the same problem.
 
 Adrian
 


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-24 Thread Don Foy

on 11/23/00 2:09 PM, Ken Gillett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that
 doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does
 nothing else complain? I'm sure that it does hit the network hard,
 but IMO it should be written to cope with that. It should not the
 task of the customer to swap NICs or hubs or whatever until one is
 found that works. If a NIC will connect with the network then
 Retrospect should be able to use it.

I'll let the Dantz folks respond to this charge, since they have heard it
before, but when I did my job and got the network and clients working right,
Retrospect worked right. It is the best trouble-finding tool out there. I
know that if Retrospect works, everything else will.

That's not a fault of Retrospect, but a feature, the way I see it. I want
everything perfect for a backup, since a less than perfect backup is
absolutely useless. That one byte it missed and didn't tell me about may
have been in the middle of a file that could cost me several thousands
dollars.

Don



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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-24 Thread Glenn L. Austin

 So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that
 doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does
 nothing else complain? I'm sure that it does hit the network hard,
 but IMO it should be written to cope with that. It should not the
 task of the customer to swap NICs or hubs or whatever until one is
 found that works. If a NIC will connect with the network then
 Retrospect should be able to use it.

I can understand your frustration, having been on the "other side" with some
products that I've worked on.  In my case, in *every* case, the software
that I wrote uncovered hardware and system problems that, when corrected,
solved other "nagging" stability problems that the users had just accepted.

In my opinion, I doubt that the problems don't affect anything else -- more
likely is that the problems that are occurring are minor enough that nobody
has reported them.

That being said, there apparently are some G4 machines that have some
problems with their ethernet interfaces.

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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-24 Thread Pam Lefkowitz

So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that 
doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does 
nothing else complain? 

Yet.

I copy large files from one machine to another, but that never fails 

Yet.

 If it is a SCSI problem, then shouldn't 
Retrospect report it as such?


I've not found 519's to be SCSI issues. They are network issues. And 
almost always hardware. If you're experiencing 519's on multiple servers 
then I'd take a hard look at the infrastructure in place. Somewhere there 
is a "frayed" cable or a port/switch/router/hub that's either failing or 
getting ready to fail.

Backup software should the most reliable software in use on the 
network, yet Retrospect is the only software that consistently fails 
to do what it is supposed to. 

This *is* the most reliable software in use on your network. And, in 
addition, it is probably the most useful network assessment tool you have 
as well. If Retrospect is telling you that you have a network 
problem...you do (or will) indeed have a network problem. Consider 
looking at it as more than just backup
software...consider looking at it as a diagnostic tool. Better than any 
other tool out there for finding hardware problems.

I like Retrospect and simply want it to 
run correctly and of course reliably.

It does run correctly and it does run reliably. Dantz just doesn't market 
all its features apparently. Wouldn't it be odd for them to put this out 
as a networking tool that does backup too? Better that it does the 
backups right and gives you the value add of being a kickin' proactive 
diagnostic as well. It's all in how you view it. :-) 

Besides, if you use this added value to your advantage and find the 
failing segment before it fails you will be a hero, get a raise, get a 
promotion, a nice Christmas bonus, maybe conquer the world. OK, I got a 
little carried away...maybe you won't get a promotion.

Pam


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-23 Thread Bob Boonstra

At 8:00 PM -0800 11/22/00, retro-talk wrote:

   We are having problems backing up G4s over the network.
Basically, they get part way through the backup and then Retrospect
looses the connection. The problem seems to be at the G4 end as once
this has happened they have lost network connectivity until the next
restart (sleep and waking seems to restore it as well). This seems to
be the problem that was addressed by the "Ethernet Update 1.0" and
our network does seem to come close to the type of network described
in the Apple TIL on the subject. HOWEVER, installing the Ethernet
Update doesn't fix the problem, although it may have made it a little
better (the backup SEEMS to get a bit further).

I have the same problem with a G4/500 (single processor).  Dantz tech 
support suggested I turn on link encryption (to slow down the 
backup).  That didn't help.  They then suggested it was the fault of 
a router.  I moved the G4 to various ports on my Asante FriendlyNet 
8+2 to no effect.  I tried both 10Mbps ports and 100 Mbps ports, both 
half and full duplex.  No effect.  Tried a 10Mbps hub instead of the 
Asante switch.  No effect.  I switched Retrospect host machines.  No 
effect.  I've tried various backup devices (VXA, DDS, CD-RW), no 
effect.

Software is Mac OS 9.0.4, everything up-to-date, and Retrospect 4.3.

I don't have this problem with any of the other 9 machines I back up, 
and this machine is the only G4.

I'm backing up a 27MB internal hard drive on this machine, divided 
into 4 partitions, roughly sized at (usable space) 2MB, 8MB, 13.5MB, 
and 2MB.  When doing a full backup, the failure usually occurs on the 
3rd partition.

By running 3 or 4 incrementals after a full backup, I can usually get 
through the entire drive.  Most incremental backups after that are 
usually small enough to success, but not always.
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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-23 Thread Ken Gillett

At 4:02 PM + 22/11/00, Nicholas Froome wrote:
  We are having problems backing up G4s over the network. 
Basically, they get part way through the backup and then Retrospect 
looses the connection. The problem seems to be at the G4 end as 
once this has happened they have lost network connectivity until 
the next restart


I have continually experienced this with both Mac and NT clients ever 
since I started trying to backup over the network. The only way I can 
get a backup to complete is to turn verification off, then it seems 
to be ok. But with it on, it loses the connection at some time and 
the server Mac must be restarted to get any sense out of its network 
connection.

I am trying to run QuickDNS and IPNetRouter on this 8100 and I do not 
consider this should be impossible, but even if Retrospect does 
complete I invariably suffer network troubles afterwards until it is 
restarted, e.g. I cannot access the DNS, or the machine simply 
doesn't route any more.

I have always believed in Retrospect, but I must say that I am sorely 
disappointed by this. It seems as if its use of TCP/IP on the Mac is 
really flaky, nothing should be able to pull down the OT stack like 
that. I intend to try this with Retrospect on an NT (well 2000) 
server and see if that can work reliably, but IMO it should work on 
the Mac and I don't see why I should have to dedicate a machine to 
this task. Actually, I've no idea if that would be any better anyway.

Just what is the 519 error, what actually occurs that causes 
Retrospect to report it and how come it requires a restart of the Mac 
in order to get its network running again?


At 5:27 PM + 22/11/00, Nicholas Froome wrote:

How much data are you backing up? Is the problem intermittent? Does 
it happen on any other machines? As a percentage, what proportion of 
the backups (of the G4s) fail?


100% with verification on.


In a client's setup we found the problem (error 519) to be 
apparently unrelated to anything. It would occur on almost every 
machine at some point, after a few Mb had been copied or after 
copying 5 Gb out of 5.2 Gb, independent of machine OS, independent 
of date or time, and all the backups were being done overnight when 
there was no other network traffic.


This is very much my experience. I just cannot understand why NOTHING 
else has ever given any network error here, yet Retrospect has so 
much trouble.

I'm sure the data that Retrospect writes to tape is good and it's 
never failed to restore anything I've asked, but that was before I 
tried network backups. It does seem to be a recurring problem as it 
regularly crops up on this list.


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-23 Thread Don Foy

on 11/23/00 6:50 AM, Ken Gillett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just what is the 519 error, what actually occurs that causes
 Retrospect to report it and how come it requires a restart of the Mac
 in order to get its network running again?

Before the guys at Dantz get back from the holiday, I'll let you in on a
little secret ‹ 519 errors are some of the most common. They are not caused
by Retrospect, just found by it.

Retrospect is very demanding. It requires that everything be right in your
machine and network setup (Imagine that).

If you are having 519 errors, there is a problem in your setup, either
hardware, software or network. You most likely either have a SCSI problem
(which was the case the last time I had a 519, termination problems), a
system incompatibility (sometimes a corrupt system or mismatched components
(like OS 8.5 with ASIP 5 (that was pretty stupid)) or a network problem
(replace those old hubs with switches, which creates more potential
problems).

Dantz has an in depth technical not on 519 errors at:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=tn415

Good hunting.

BTW, why are we all at our computers this morning? Isn't this supposed to be
a holiday?

Don





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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-23 Thread Nicholas Froome


Before the guys at Dantz get back from the holiday, I'll let you in on a
little secret - 519 errors are some of the most common. They are not caused
by Retrospect, just found by it.

Retrospect is very demanding. It requires that everything be right in your
machine and network setup (Imagine that).

If you are having 519 errors, there is a problem in your setup, either
hardware, software or network. You most likely either have a SCSI problem
(which was the case the last time I had a 519, termination problems), a
system incompatibility (sometimes a corrupt system or mismatched components
(like OS 8.5 with ASIP 5 (that was pretty stupid)) or a network problem
(replace those old hubs with switches, which creates more potential
problems).

I've always said that if you tried to design a network stress-testing tool you'd end 
up with Retrospect... It is obviously trying to max out everything, all the time, and 
will find problems wherever they lie.

If 519 is, at it seems to be, a generic error, then how do we find the cause(s)? It 
seems to me that they present a problem only if their frequency undermines the 
successful completion of a backup. On a setup (as I described) that can't complete a 
Recycle or Incremental backup on one day, a 519, leading to one machine not being 
backed up, can't be considered a problem - unless it fails again the next day.

Yes I'd like to fix every problem on the client's network, but it isn't financially 
viable to do so. So what is the best methodolgy for finding the problem? The Dantz TIL 
is useful but does not address this.

One thing that is always common is the backup machine, backup device and the network. 
If a 519 can be caused by local, backup server-related cause such as a termination 
problem, as well as client-related problems, then the error message is useless for 
fault-finding. So where to start?


BTW, why are we all at our computers this morning? Isn't this supposed to be
a holiday?

Only for that small percentage of people in the world who live in the USA...


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-23 Thread Adrian Smith


If you are having 519 errors, there is a problem in your setup, either
hardware, software or network. You most likely either have a SCSI problem
(which was the case the last time I had a 519, termination problems),

Don, what were the other symptoms when you had the termination 
problem? Did it take out the whole backup or just specific clients?

Unlike Ken, we have no problem with server Mac and in our case it is 
only the G4s that have the problem and only the CLIENT drops the 
network connection. The backup Mac is fine and can go on to back up 
the other clients. The client will regain the network after a restart 
or sleep. It sounds just like the symptoms of the problem that was 
supposed to fixed with the Ethernet update, expect that the Ethernet 
update doesn't fix it and when I went and checked the details (TIL 
25147) it doesn't actually seem to be the same problem.

Adrian


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-23 Thread Ken Gillett

At 10:34 AM -0600 23/11/00, Don Foy wrote:

Before the guys at Dantz get back from the holiday, I'll let you in on a
little secret - 519 errors are some of the most common. They are not caused
by Retrospect, just found by it.

Retrospect is very demanding. It requires that everything be right in your
machine and network setup (Imagine that).

If you are having 519 errors, there is a problem in your setup, either
hardware, software or network. You most likely either have a SCSI problem
(which was the case the last time I had a 519, termination problems), a
system incompatibility (sometimes a corrupt system or mismatched components
(like OS 8.5 with ASIP 5 (that was pretty stupid)) or a network problem
(replace those old hubs with switches, which creates more potential
problems).

Dantz has an in depth technical not on 519 errors at:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=tn415


So Retrospect reports errors that it finds in the network setup that 
doesn't affect ANYTHING else? If these errors existed then why does 
nothing else complain? I'm sure that it does hit the network hard, 
but IMO it should be written to cope with that. It should not the 
task of the customer to swap NICs or hubs or whatever until one is 
found that works. If a NIC will connect with the network then 
Retrospect should be able to use it.

I copy large files from one machine to another, but that never fails 
so how come Retrospect falls over - badly.

You mention SCSI problems, but don't indicate if this was related to 
the server of client. In fact I don't know if the 519 error is client 
induced or resides solely in the server. Since this can occur with 
all the clients it points to the server, but this is the third Mac 
I've tried it on If it is a SCSI problem, then shouldn't 
Retrospect report it as such?

Backup software should the most reliable software in use on the 
network, yet Retrospect is the only software that consistently fails 
to do what it is supposed to. I like Retrospect and simply want it to 
run correctly and of course reliably.

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Re: Error 5 and other confusing stuff

2000-11-22 Thread Irena Solomon

Hi Rick,

These problems may stem from troubles identifying unique volumes on the
client. On the first NT client, ensure that all volumes have unique volume
labels. If so it's possible that duplicate serial numbers are preventing
Retrospect from seeing the volumes correctly. There's a third party utility
called VolumeId that you can use to change your volume IDs. Our website has
a link that you may follow to download the free utility:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=3rdparty

This utility will also address the problems you are seeing on the other
client. Because of the duplicate serial numbers, Retrospect is seeing
duplicate volumes on the client.

If you have any other questions, or if you find that there are other
problems with your client volumes please give us a call and we can look into
it a bit more.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Technical Support
925.253.3050

Try our new Searchable Knowledgebase at:
http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/


 
 I recently inherited a Windows NT network running Retrospect Server v 5.0.
 This is my first experience with Retrospect, so I was hoping to get someone
 to point me in the right direction with 2 problems I'm having.
 
 One Windows NT client gives me an error when I try to access it from the
 server. When I hit the "refresh" button, I get an error that say's "Client
 speed test failed, error 5 (unknown)".  When I hit the "volumes" button, I
 get an error that say's "Can't track volumes (error 5)". I looked at all the
 documentation that I could find, and there doesn't appear to be an "error
 5", so I guess it's truly unknown.  ;-)  I found error codes that start with
 a 5 (i.e. 527, 525). I have uninstalled, and then reinstalled the client
 software. Told the server to forget the client and then re added it. I'm
 kind of at a loss. Everything else on the machine seems to work fine.
 
 Another Windows NT client, which is a new machine that I recently set up on
 the network and installed Retrospect on, is also giving me fits. When I go
 to the volumes on the server, it tells me the "User Rosado has two disks
 named drive C that are indistinguishable from each other. One of these disks
 should be renamed so that this program (and people) are not confused."
 Obviously I don't have two disks named drive C, I see no mention of this or
 anything like it in the documentation. Where does Retrospect get this info
 from?
 
 Would any of you kind folks care to give me a nudge in the right direction,
 or point me to some more detailed documentation. The doc's I'm finding don't
 really seem to cover much. Thanks.
 
 Rick Collins



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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-22 Thread Adrian Smith

 We are having problems backing up G4s over the network. 
Basically, they get part way through the backup and then Retrospect 
looses the connection. The problem seems to be at the G4 end as 
once this has happened they have lost network connectivity until 
the next restart (sleep and waking seems to restore it as well). 
This seems to be the problem that was addressed by the "Ethernet 
Update 1.0" and our network does seem to come close to the type of 
network described in the Apple TIL on the subject. HOWEVER, 
installing the Ethernet Update doesn't fix the problem, although it 
may have made it a little better (the backup SEEMS to get a bit 
further).

Disable the OT AutoPush extension and try again - worked for us!

Have you got TCP/IP set as active and "Load only when needed" 
unchecked - I thought so..


Unfortunately, we don't have the OT AutoPush extension to disable.

And yes, TCP/IP is active and "Load only when needed" is unchecked...


Adrian


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-22 Thread Nicholas Froome

Adrian


 We are having problems backing up G4s over the network. Basically, they

...

Disable the OT AutoPush extension and try again - worked for us!

Have you got TCP/IP set as active and "Load only when needed" unchecked - I thought 
so..


Unfortunately, we don't have the OT AutoPush extension to disable.

And yes, TCP/IP is active and "Load only when needed" is unchecked...

Mmmm. OK, check the connection speed and duplex setting to the hub/switch in Apple 
System Profiler. If it's 100Base-T try setting it down to 10Base-T for the backup and 
see what happens then. There's an unsupported tool to do this - check the Apple site.

How much data are you backing up? Is the problem intermittent? Does it happen on any 
other machines? As a percentage, what proportion of the backups (of the G4s) fail?

In a client's setup we found the problem (error 519) to be apparently unrelated to 
anything. It would occur on almost every machine at some point, after a few Mb had 
been copied or after copying 5 Gb out of 5.2 Gb, independent of machine OS, 
independent of date or time, and all the backups were being done overnight when there 
was no other network traffic.

The only thing I concluded was common to the each failure was the backup server Mac 
and the network.

I disabled OT Autopush one one machine - the worst affected - and the occurrence of 
519s dropped to be average. The client has so much data to backup that an ovenight 
backup won't get all the data on the network, so I rationalised that one error 519 per 
night was acceptable. Backup Server would then prioritise that machine the next night 
- and we haven't seen any cases of the same machine erroring out on successive nights. 
Not exactly problem solved, but problem minimised.


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-22 Thread matt barkdull

Mmmm. OK, check the connection speed and duplex setting to the 
hub/switch in Apple System Profiler.


Hmm, You know, this one got me.  I was not aware of any program that 
would get speed and duplex on a Mac.

I just checked Apple System Profiler (version 2.4.4) and it don't 
show me.  Maybe this works only on Apple cards?   I have an Asante 
10/100 NIC.

Thanks,

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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-22 Thread Nicholas Froome

Mmmm. OK, check the connection speed and duplex setting to the hub/switch in Apple 
System Profiler.


Hmm, You know, this one got me.  I was not aware of any program that would get speed 
and duplex on a Mac.

I just checked Apple System Profiler (version 2.4.4) and it don't show me.  Maybe 
this works only on Apple cards?   I have an Asante 10/100 NIC.


ASP only works on Apple Cards. It's under System Profile:Network Overview

Try switching to the Apple NIC - why would you want to use an Asante one? The built-in 
NIC is 10/100..

See if the Apple NIC reduces 519s.


Regards


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-22 Thread matt barkdull

I'm a different person than who brought up the initial issue.  I was 
asking this for my information.  Thanks!

The Macs I have are older and they do not have the 10/100 built in. 
Beige G3/300 and a 9600/G4-450.


  Mmmm. OK, check the connection speed and duplex setting to the 
hub/switch in Apple System Profiler.


Hmm, You know, this one got me.  I was not aware of any program 
that would get speed and duplex on a Mac.

I just checked Apple System Profiler (version 2.4.4) and it don't 
show me.  Maybe this works only on Apple cards?   I have an Asante 
10/100 NIC.


ASP only works on Apple Cards. It's under System Profile:Network Overview

Try switching to the Apple NIC - why would you want to use an Asante 
one? The built-in NIC is 10/100..

See if the Apple NIC reduces 519s.


Regards


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Re: G4s and error 519

2000-11-22 Thread Chuck Hornish

matt barkdull wrote:
 
 Mmmm. OK, check the connection speed and duplex setting to the
 hub/switch in Apple System Profiler.
 
 Hmm, You know, this one got me.  I was not aware of any program that
 would get speed and duplex on a Mac.
 
 I just checked Apple System Profiler (version 2.4.4) and it don't
 show me.  Maybe this works only on Apple cards?   I have an Asante
 10/100 NIC.

The Asante software has that capability.

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G4s and error 519

2000-11-21 Thread Adrian Smith

Hi all,
We are having problems backing up G4s over the network. 
Basically, they get part way through the backup and then Retrospect 
looses the connection. The problem seems to be at the G4 end as once 
this has happened they have lost network connectivity until the next 
restart (sleep and waking seems to restore it as well). This seems to 
be the problem that was addressed by the "Ethernet Update 1.0" and 
our network does seem to come close to the type of network described 
in the Apple TIL on the subject. HOWEVER, installing the Ethernet 
Update doesn't fix the problem, although it may have made it a little 
better (the backup SEEMS to get a bit further).

So, does anyone know how complete a fix the Ethernet Update was? Are 
there reports of G4s still having network problems?

Does anyone have any suggestions for a workaround?

Any other suggestions as to the cause? We have had zero problems 
backing up an iMac, a beigeG3 and an LCIII but the three G4s (and my 
Powerbook (firewire) which we just tested) seem to fail almost every 
time...

Thanks
Adrian


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Error 5 and other confusing stuff

2000-11-20 Thread Rick Collins

Hi All,

I recently inherited a Windows NT network running Retrospect Server v 5.0.
This is my first experience with Retrospect, so I was hoping to get someone
to point me in the right direction with 2 problems I'm having.

One Windows NT client gives me an error when I try to access it from the
server. When I hit the "refresh" button, I get an error that say's "Client
speed test failed, error 5 (unknown)".  When I hit the "volumes" button, I
get an error that say's "Can't track volumes (error 5)". I looked at all the
documentation that I could find, and there doesn't appear to be an "error
5", so I guess it's truly unknown.  ;-)  I found error codes that start with
a 5 (i.e. 527, 525). I have uninstalled, and then reinstalled the client
software. Told the server to forget the client and then re added it. I'm
kind of at a loss. Everything else on the machine seems to work fine.

Another Windows NT client, which is a new machine that I recently set up on
the network and installed Retrospect on, is also giving me fits. When I go
to the volumes on the server, it tells me the "User Rosado has two disks
named drive C that are indistinguishable from each other. One of these disks
should be renamed so that this program (and people) are not confused."
Obviously I don't have two disks named drive C, I see no mention of this or
anything like it in the documentation. Where does Retrospect get this info
from?

Would any of you kind folks care to give me a nudge in the right direction,
or point me to some more detailed documentation. The doc's I'm finding don't
really seem to cover much. Thanks.

Rick Collins
RCNetwork Management
http://www.rcnetman.com
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Re: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...

2000-11-15 Thread David Ross

I've seen this when the volume containing the catalogs is almost full
and the save after the backup is completed fails. Also if the directory
of this volume is corrupted.


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RE: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...

2000-11-15 Thread Thone, Bradley A (Sbcsi)

I see this on Retrospect 5.15 with a Compaq server and a Compaq AIT loader
using the built-in SCSI port.

I do not see this on Retrospect 5.15 with a Compaq server and a Compaq AIT
loader using an Adaptec 2940UW.

Check your SCSI bus for errors (controller, cable, and device).

Brad.

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To: retro-talk
Subject: Re: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...


I've seen this when the volume containing the catalogs is almost full
and the save after the backup is completed fails. Also if the directory
of this volume is corrupted.


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Re: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...

2000-11-14 Thread Irena Solomon

Hi Dan,

I don't know what you have tried already, but if you are repeatedly getting
catalog out of sync errors, that may be a sign of SCSI problems, corruption
on the volume on which the catalog is stored, or, as you alluded to, crashes
during the backup. If you haven't already, take a look at Tech Note 406 on
our website. This discusses missing EOD (end of data) markers, which can
have an effect on the catalog as well:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=technotes

Typically, you'll get an out of sync catalog if the backup crashes before
the catalog is updated to reflect the data that was copied in that session.

To address it, start by rebuilding the catalog from scratch to a different
location on your hard drive. It may be helpful to break the backup down into
smaller volumes, as Retrospect updates the catalog after completing each
volume; therefore if you have to update, it will be easier. Continue your
backups (you may want to add a script to duplicate the catalog file after
the backup operation completes so you have working copies of the catalog
that you can revert to if this one has problems). If the problems seems to
persist, even in sessions during which the server doesn't crash, you may
need to investigate the possibility that SCSI problems are causing
corruption in the copied data.

For continuing problems, please give us a call so we can get specifics on
your configuration.

Regards,

Irena Solomon
Dantz Technical Support
925.253.3050

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 Subject: Daily Problems with out of Sync Error messages...
 
 Howdy, 
 
 We have been dealing with an anooying problem where our backup is going out
 of sync every day.
 
 We have looked at the Service and Support pages and found several references
 to the issue, and followed the instructions found within to no avail.
 
 This has been working fine up to now. Nothing has changed in the last year
 at least.
 
 Hardware involved is a Hammer DLT 100G Autoloader, a Mac 7500/100 running
 MacOS 8.6. Unsing the built in SCSI and an Asante 100Mbit Etherenet card. We
 get no error messages during or after the archive set runs. Our servers
 crash multiple times per day, but not for the duration of this latest backup
 set. We have Verify on to make sure the EOD is set.
 
 Please help as this is MOST frustrating!
 
 Thanks in Advance.
 
 Dan.



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Re: Error 541- Backup client not installed or not running

2000-11-08 Thread Irena Solomon

Re: Error 541- Backup client not installed or not running

 I get this error quite a bit but it is intermittent?  One night backups may
 work fine and the next night I may get this error on one of my volumes?
 We are using a central backup server with an HP Surestore 818 Library
 attached.  The backup server is a 600Mhz NT4 Server with 256MB of RAM and
 plenty of local drive space.  Our network is all TCP/IP with NT 4 and
 Win2000 Servers and 10/100 Switches.  Any ideas as to what causes this and
 to how to fix?  

Hi David,

Go to that client. Is the client installed and running? Open it and make
sure it says "Ready" in the Status field. If it does not, troubleshoot this
client to see why it's not running.

If it does, has its IP address changed? Is this client's IP address assigned
by DHCP? If so, configure its subnet and log it in through subnet broadcast.
If the lease expires and it's assigned another IP address, Retrospect will
not be able to find it if you've logged it in by direct IP, or Retrospect
may be finding a different machine without a client installed.

There are other issues as well that may cause an error 541, such as multiple
NICs. For more information, either contact Technical Support or search our
Knowledgebase for that error code at:

http://partners.dantz.com:591/faq/

Look for Tech Note 413, Retrospect Client For Windows Troubleshooting.

Regards,

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Re: Windows Error - soccrecv

2000-11-06 Thread Irena Solomon

Hi Ben,

I had a look through some of Microsoft's online resources, and this sounds
like a network error that is reported by Windows, not Retrospect. Depending
on the context of the error, it may indicate several things; I'd recommend
searching for the 10054 error at Microsoft's Knowledgebase:

http://search.support.microsoft.com/kb/c.asp?ln=en-us

If you'd like to send details to me off the list, I can look into it a bit
further. When does the error happen? Does it happen with a specific client?
Is it reproducible? What additional text does the operations log show? Any
other Retrospect errors reported?

Regards,

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 From: Ben Mihailescu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Windows Error - soccrecv
 
 Hi all,
 
 I got a another error that is not mentioned in any book or Dantz'z web
 site. The error is "soccrecv = recv failed, error 10054". I understand
 the gist of it, but what can cause this? Anyway it can be prevented?
 
 Here is my hardware: PII266, 196MB RAM, 15GB HDD, Quantum DLT 4000 SCSI
 Tape Drive.
 
 I use Retorspect 5.15 Backup Server with Retro 5.15 Win Clients and 4.2a
 Mac clients.
 
 TIA, Ben



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Re: Error 212, VXA, Retrospect 4.3

2000-11-04 Thread David Weeks, weeks.de

On Don, 2. Nov 2000, 23:16:46 Uhr GMT David Weeks wrote:


   a VXA drive which we are running on an Adaptec SCSI
   card in a PPC 8500/200 with128MB RAM.
   Backups run just fine and very fast, but after having backed up the entire
   network (probably 40GB) the next incremental backup suddenly stops and
asks
   for the tape that's already in the drive. This tape is now marked as
   "gelöscht" which is German for erased or deleted. When this first happened
I
   ejected the tape and put it straight back in the machine and it appeared
to
   recognise it but when I tried to continue the incremental backup it
brought up
   an Error 212 message. When I tried to retrieve data from the tape it
appeared
   to rewind to the correct spot and start to retrieve the document, but then
   stops and again brings the error 212 message.


On the advice of several different people, I moved the VXA onto the external,
built-in, SCSI bus and started a backup. The backup ran just fine but the
verification just brought up the Error 212 message again. As far as the
hardware was concerned this was pretty much all I could do, short of moving
everything onto a different Mac.
So I started looking at Retrospect once more, something I had done dozens of
times already. Whilst I was checking everything through I came across the
option in my backup script for Software Data Compression (or whatever its
called in English ­ I'm using a German system) where it says that software
compression will be ignored if the drive is using hardware compression, which
it is. Following the tried and tested troubleshooting principle of "if you
don't absolutely need something, switch it off" I did just that ­ and guess
what...? Yup! the next attempted backup with verification ran just perfectly
and the subsequent retrieval of random documents as well.
After an all-time personal-best deep sigh of relief I was ready for more.
Would it work with the Adaptec card? In a word ­ yes! A full unattended backup
from all clients ran perfectly overnight, peaking out at around 235MB/min.
This doesn't seem to be a hardware problem in the strictest sense, and I also
don't think that it's a software problem because we've been using Retrospect
with DAT drives for years with this setting switched on (the defaultsetting).
Instead it seems to indicate an incompatibility in the Firmware.
Thanks to Chad Chelius and Jim Coefield for your knowledgeable help in
narrowing down the problem and to Frau Wohlfahrt at Dantz Europe for
responding so quickly to my cry-for-help. 

Best regards,

David Weeks
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Re: Error 212, VXA, Retrospect 4.3

2000-11-03 Thread David Weeks, weeks.de


On Fre, 3. Nov 2000, 2:26:50 Uhr GMT Chad S. Chelius wrote:


   The first step I would take in troubleshooting this situation would be to
   isolate the SCSI bus.  Are there more than 1 SCSI device on the Adaptec
SCSI
   bus?  Is your VXA drive terminated properly?  One other option would be to
   temporarily attach your drive to the 8500's built in SCSI bus.  Also I'm
   just curious as to what operating system you are using.  Please update us
on
   your situation.

The VXA is the only device on the Adaptec card, which incidentaly is a 2930,
and is correctly terminated using the Ecrix terminator.
MacOS is 8.6. 
I'll certainly try it on the built in SCSI bus, but as this problem only seems
to occur at the end of a tape, and although the VXA is very fast, backing up
60+GB does take a while!

Best regards,

David Weeks

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Complete list of error codes?

2000-11-03 Thread Toby Blake

Hi,

Is there a *complete* list of error codes produced by Retrospect for
the Mac available anywhere?

In our backups last night, I see two codes that I don't recognise:

can't erase/format media (112)
unknown service command (510)

These don't seem to be listed in the manual, or the online error codes
web page:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=errors_mac_retrospect

Can I find a description of them anywhere else?

Thanks,
Toby Blake
Division of Informatics
University of Edinburgh


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Re: Error 212, VXA, Retrospect 4.3

2000-11-03 Thread Jim Coefield

Dave,

I'd first follow the advice given me by Ecrix Irena a few weeks ago, 
and if that doesn't help, most likely your drive is experience some 
sort of scsi problems with your computer. I'll forward you that post.

If that advice doesn't help, I'd contact Ecrix and tell them about 
your situation. Pulling logfiles and giving them sense information 
from the drive will help to resolve the situation. Some of us with 
certain configurations have been working with Ecrix to resolve 
problems with Retro Mac and VXA drives. They are working on firmware 
updates to resolve specific problems that folks are experiencing. I 
have found Ecrix to be most responsive to folks with certain 
configurations who can help them debug their drives.

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Subject: Error 212, VXA, Retrospect 4.3
From: "David Weeks, weeks.de" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 00:53:51 +0100

Hello All,

two weeks ago we bought a VXA drive which we are running on an Adaptec SCSI
card in a PPC 8500/200 with128MB RAM.
Backups run just fine and very fast, but after having backed up the entire
network (probably 40GB) the next incremental backup suddenly stops and asks
for the tape that's already in the drive. This tape is now marked as
"gelöscht" which is German for erased or deleted. When this first happened I
ejected the tape and put it straight back in the machine and it appeared to
recognise it but when I tried to continue the incremental backup it brought up
an Error 212 message. When I tried to retrieve data from the tape it appeared
to rewind to the correct spot and start to retrieve the document, but then
stops and again brings the error 212 message.
The first time this happened I thought that I had maybe set up the script
incorrectly or had inadvertently deleted the tape. Therefore yesterday I
rewrote the backup scripts and backed up the whole network again onto a new
tape. This evening I came back into the office to find that todays incremental
backup had also stopped and was again demanding the tape already in the drive.
All other details are again as described above. This is, as you will surely
realise, a very disturbing situation for us as we are now without a safetynet
and our old DAT based system simply cannot cope with the amount of data we are
generating.
if anybody is able to shed some light on this Iwould be very grateful.

Best regards,

David Weeks

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Re: Error 212, VXA, Retrospect 4.3

2000-11-02 Thread Chad S. Chelius

 Hello All,
 
 two weeks ago we bought a VXA drive which we are running on an Adaptec SCSI
 card in a PPC 8500/200 with128MB RAM.
 Backups run just fine and very fast, but after having backed up the entire
 network (probably 40GB) the next incremental backup suddenly stops and asks
 for the tape that's already in the drive. This tape is now marked as
 "gelöscht" which is German for erased or deleted. When this first happened I
 ejected the tape and put it straight back in the machine and it appeared to
 recognise it but when I tried to continue the incremental backup it brought up
 an Error 212 message. When I tried to retrieve data from the tape it appeared
 to rewind to the correct spot and start to retrieve the document, but then
 stops and again brings the error 212 message.
 The first time this happened I thought that I had maybe set up the script
 incorrectly or had inadvertently deleted the tape. Therefore yesterday I
 rewrote the backup scripts and backed up the whole network again onto a new
 tape. This evening I came back into the office to find that todays incremental
 backup had also stopped and was again demanding the tape already in the drive.
 All other details are again as described above. This is, as you will surely
 realise, a very disturbing situation for us as we are now without a safetynet
 and our old DAT based system simply cannot cope with the amount of data we are
 generating.
 if anybody is able to shed some light on this Iwould be very grateful.
 
 Best regards,
 
 David Weeks
 
 
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David,
The first step I would take in troubleshooting this situation would be to
isolate the SCSI bus.  Are there more than 1 SCSI device on the Adaptec SCSI
bus?  Is your VXA drive terminated properly?  One other option would be to
temporarily attach your drive to the 8500's built in SCSI bus.  Also I'm
just curious as to what operating system you are using.  Please update us on
your situation.

Chad Chelius



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Re: Annoying Backup Error

2000-10-05 Thread Derek J. Balling

Maybe it would be better if Retrospect "recognized" the file it 
itself had messed with and would silently ignore that particular 
error on that particular file.

Just seems fairly logical to me to NOT report that as an error.

D


At 2:18 PM -0500 10/5/00, Fuzzy Gerdes wrote:
Retrospect is simply reporting that the file it backed up is a 
different size than the file that is on the hard-drive. Which is 
fine, because here's the sequence:

1. Retrospect backs up it's Operations Log (along with all your other files)
2. Retrospect writes to the Operation Log that it has backed up all the files.
3. Retrospect compares the files it backed up to the files on your 
hard-drive and discovers that one file is different in size. Yup, 
it's the file that Retrospect just changed, but it doesn't "know" 
that, so it logs it as an error. To the Operations Log, ironically 
enough.

Fuzzy


on 10/5/00 1:53 PM, Chris Benjamin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For the past month or so, I've been getting the following error in 
my backup report. Now I know that this looks like a pretty minor 
error and it hasn't had any adverse effect when I've had to restore 
some files here and there. The thing is though, I get this EXACT 
same error every single day, regardless of the type of script I'm 
running. Both a normal backup and recycle backup generate the same 
error. I'm running the following setup. Any ideas or advice would be 
greatly appreciated...

Mac G4/500 ASIP Server running OS 9.0.4 with Retrospect 4.3 to a 
single DLT unit on the server.

The error log reads as follows...

10/04/2000 8:00:33 PM: Copying File Server
10/04/2000 8:02:18 PM: Comparing File Server
   Different data size (set: 155,280, vol: 155,341) for file 
"File Server:System
   Folder:Preferences:Retrospect:Operations Log".
10/04/2000 8:03:30 PM: 1 execution errors
   Completed: 103 files, 68.3 MB
   Performance: 80.3 MB/minute (74.4 copy, 87.1 compare)
   Duration: 00:02:57 (00:01:15 idle/loading/preparing)

Thanks in advance,

Chris

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Error -517?

2000-09-18 Thread Cory Rau

Anyone ever seen this one before?

Can't access volume Backup Folder for Text Files on FMP_SERVER, error -517
(backup client is busy)
9/14/2000 1:03:55 AM: Execution incomplete

We are backing up a Macintosh client to an NT machine in the middle of the
night.  None of the files we're backing up are open and no users are on the
server.  It's a FileMaker Pro server with FMP Server 3 up and running but
we're not backing up the database files with Retrospect, just the text files
we downloaded from our mainframe the previous morning.

This error code is not listed on the Dantz web site.

Anybody have more details on this error?

Thanks in advance,
Cory



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VXA Tape Drive, Error -24201

2000-09-15 Thread Tom Miller

Just received a new Ecrix VXA-1 Tape Drive . Attached it via suppled 
cable to Apple Macintosh BW G3 using stock Apple (Adaptec) 2940U2B 
LVD SCSI PCI card (only external device attached on this card). Tape 
Drive is terminated with supplied terminator.

Using Retrospect 4.3, Test Backups with verification work just fine, 
no errors. Testing the Restore function yields the following error 
message:" Sorry, restore preparation failed, error-24201 (chunk 
checksum didn't match)"

Retrospect recently upgraded from 4.1 to 4.3. No problems backing up 
to or restoring from existing DDS-2 DAT Drive (on different SCSI 
card).

Researching the problem on the Dantz Website reveals the following:

-24201 (chunk checksum failed)
One of Retrospect's files, likely a catalog, is corrupt. To check 
whether a catalog is corrupt, set up a restore by searching on a 
blank file name so Retrospect scans all files in the catalog. If the 
error occurs, you know this catalog is corrupt. If the error occurs 
during a backup or archive, you need to rebuild the catalog (page 189 
of the Retrospect User's Guide) of the destination. After the catalog 
is reconstructed, reselect this backup set in your scripts.

I have tried recreating the catalog from the tape, it seems to 
complete this task successfully, but a Restore attempt yields the 
same error message. I have also tried reinstalling Retrospect and the 
error remains the same.

I haven't found any further information on the Ecrix or Dantz Websites.

Please help me solve this problem.



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Error I've Never Seen Before

2000-09-14 Thread Cory Rau

Can't access volume Backup Folder for Text Files on FMP_SERVER, error -517
(backup client is busy)
9/14/2000 1:03:55 AM: Execution incomplete

Anyone ever seen this?  We are backing up a Macintosh client to an NT
machine in the middle of the night.  None of the files we're backing up are
open and no users are on the server.  It's a FileMaker Pro server with FMP
Server 3 up and running but we're not backing up the database files, just
the text files we downloaded from our mainframe the previous morning.

This error code is not listed on the Dantz web site.

Anybody have more details on this error?

Thanks in advance,
Cory



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Re: Error

2000-08-31 Thread Jay

I tried it and it worked.

Thanks Irena
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From: "Irena Solomon" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Error


You're probably receiving error -1017 when running automatically because the
Retrospect Launcher service (the service that allows Retrospect to
autolaunch) is configured to log in as a user that does not have access to
this network volume (I'm assuming this is a Microsoft Networking volume).

Windows NT 4.0
1. Open the Services Control Panel.
2. Select Retrospect Launcher and then click the Startup button.
3. In the ³Log On As² section select This Account. LocalSystem will appear
in the field to the right.
4. Change ³LocalSystem² to the account you want to use and then enter your
password in the two password fields. (This allows automatic backup while
logged in as the specified account, or while logged out.)
5. Restart Windows.

For step 4: this user has to be a local administrator, or member of the
local administrators group.

Best Regards,
Irena

on 8/24/00 6:22 AM, Jay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Retro Demo

 I have been getting the message "can't access volume-
 error -1017(insufficient permissions)."  This occurred fairly recently,
and
 suddenly.
 Does anyone know how to remedy this?  And why it happened?

 Hardware:  P200  256ram.  OnstreamADR50 SCSI
 Jay Kwon
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Re: error message tape too different

2000-08-31 Thread Doug Hinschberger

Doug Hinschberger (me) quoted

I tried repairing the catalog, but it was taking too long, so I decided I 
would try and skip using the 1-Fourth Friday tape, and have Retrospect 
use new media, naming it 2-Fourth Friday. When I tried I received this 
message:

 The tape cannot be added to this backup set, it is too different 
from the other media
 in the set.

I tried erasing the tape, to no avail. Tried another tape, to no avail.

What does this message mean? What am I doing wrong?

Then Andrew responded to Brian:

The problem I realised was to do with the hardware compression settings
having being accidentally altered on the drive, between tapes.


Which appears to also answer my question. I do think that I had changed 
the compression setting somewhere in the chronology.

I didn't find anything about this in the manual, so you guys at Dantz 
might consider a blurb about this in a future update.




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Re: Error

2000-08-24 Thread Irena Solomon

You're probably receiving error -1017 when running automatically because the
Retrospect Launcher service (the service that allows Retrospect to
autolaunch) is configured to log in as a user that does not have access to
this network volume (I'm assuming this is a Microsoft Networking volume).

Windows NT 4.0
1. Open the Services Control Panel.
2. Select Retrospect Launcher and then click the Startup button.
3. In the ³Log On As² section select This Account. LocalSystem will appear
in the field to the right.
4. Change ³LocalSystem² to the account you want to use and then enter your
password in the two password fields. (This allows automatic backup while
logged in as the specified account, or while logged out.)
5. Restart Windows.

For step 4: this user has to be a local administrator, or member of the
local administrators group.

Best Regards,
Irena

on 8/24/00 6:22 AM, Jay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Retro Demo
 
 I have been getting the message "can't access volume-
 error -1017(insufficient permissions)."  This occurred fairly recently, and
 suddenly.
 Does anyone know how to remedy this?  And why it happened?
 
 Hardware:  P200  256ram.  OnstreamADR50 SCSI
 Jay Kwon
 (212)-696-4410
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Error 102 since upgrading to 4.3

2000-08-23 Thread Ben Lawson

I've got a Blue  White G3 running AppleShare IP 6.2. I'm backing up 
to a LaCie AIT2 tape. Since I upgraded to Retrospect 4.3 (this 
evening) I can't backup to it. I get [Device trouble "tape name", 
error 102 (trouble communicating)].

I can still erase and eject tapes etc. The G3 is running Mac OS 8.6 
and the AIT drive is on an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI card.

Solution/suggestions?

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Re: Error -1101 and lost catalog file

2000-08-14 Thread Irena Solomon

Hello Aaron,

If you are continuously getting corrupted catalogs, try running
ScanDisk/Chkdsk on the volume where the catalog is stored. You may also want
to store the catalog elsewhere on your hard drive. The large size of your
catalog wouldn't make it any more susceptible to corruption.

As a precaution, it may be a good idea to keep a copy of the most recent
catalog on another volume. This way a corrupt current catalog will require
only an update from the copy, instead of a complete recreation.

You also mention memory errors, although I don't see any detailed here. if
you'd like to look into these, please give tech support a call.

Regards,

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on 8/13/00 5:54 PM, Aaron Scott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi Retrospect Users,
 
 I have been using retrospect backup 5.1 (100 user license) for NT backups
 over the last 6 months with hardly any problems.
 
 I am only running one backup set at a time on our NT server to one tape drive
 (DDS3) but am using two scripts (desktops scheduled to start at 10pm each day,
 laptops via backup server) to the one tape backup set.
 
 About once every 3 weeks I get an error -1101 and I lose the catalog file.
 Although I have added several tapes to the tape backup set. The error is:
 
 "Can't access backup set . error -1101 (file/directory not found)"
 
 The catalog on disk becomes corrupt I can't reload the .rbc file manually:
 
 "Update catalog - File is not a catalog or is heavily damaged"
 
 The first time this happened I was getting low virtual memory errors
 (I have 128MB in the machine+196 swapfile) and started a new backup set using
 a 
 compressed catalog. But this also failed.
 
 My catalog files range from 110MB - 180MB in size.  I guess this is resonably
 large - even for a compressed catalog. I know the manual gives the expected
 size for every n-thousand files.
 
 I am backing up 35 NT workstations + 5 NT servers + 10 win95/98 laptops using
 Normal backup and I haven't recycled any tapes.
 
 When I start a new tape with only one scheduled (normal/incrementalplus)
 backup 
 of everything set my catalog file (uncompressed) is around 100MB with about
 30GB of data being backed up first time around.
 
 Has anyone else had these problems?  I guess adding more RAM would postpone
 the memory errors but I am looking at adding more machines to be backed
 up in the next few weeks.
 
 Thanks
 
 Aaron



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Retrospect Error Messages

2000-08-09 Thread Ben Mihailescu

Hello all,

I run a nightly backup using Retrospect 5.11 on a Win2k Server machine
(member server only). I backup a mixed (Mac and Win) bunch of clients.
Generally backups are going good (no major errors), yet I get sometime
error 1017 - insufficient permissions on some of the Mac files. Nothing
has changed on the clients from a permission prospective and
applications are closed. I looked through the error messages posted on
the web by Dantz and read the manual, yet I didn't find anything about
this error message.
Did anybody experience this before? Any clue what *exactly* it means in
terms of fixing it?

Thanks, Ben

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error -5000

2000-08-07 Thread Peter Dörscheln

Hi,


We have a problem running our backup with Mac OS X Server 1.2 using
Retrospect 4.2.
The Server is a Mac G4 Server at 450 MHz and should be backed up from a
usual Macintosh running Mac OS 8.6.1 having mounted the servervolume.
Sometimes "error -5000 : no privileges" occurs, sometimes the backup
runs great - without any error.

Is there any possibility to check what´s wrong ??

Peter
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Re: error -5000

2000-08-07 Thread Matthew Tevenan

Peter,

Unfortunately, at this time, Retrospect has not been certified for use on
Mac OS X Server. Though you can certainly run Retrospect on OS 8/9 and back
up a mounted OS X Server volume via AppleShare, running Retrospect in OS 8/9
emulation on an OS X Server is not supported. For more on our plans for OS X
support, please see

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=pr_osx

That said, here's what I generally write to users experiencing error -5000.
Please contact us via one of the methods below if you have questions, though
as I said, your configuration is currently unsupported.

An error -5000 is an AppleShare-generated error, alerting you that you do
not have the required privileges to access the volume in question.

When you get this error, are you backing up a volume mounted on your desktop
via file sharing? Check your access privileges to this volume to make sure
it is completely accessible to you. If you are getting this error
consistently on one volume, try dismounting the volume, forgetting it from
the Volume Selection window, remounting the volume on your desktop, and try
the backup again. 

Another possibility is that you've got some kind of security software
installed on the machine you're backing up, and that that software is
preventing you from accessing a protected area of the hard drive. Check to
see if there is any software running on that machine fitting this
description and try disabling it.

Regards,

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
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 From: Peter Dörscheln [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: Diskussionsforum Dantz Retrospect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: error -5000
 
 Hi,
 
 
 We have a problem running our backup with Mac OS X Server 1.2 using
 Retrospect 4.2.
 The Server is a Mac G4 Server at 450 MHz and should be backed up from a
 usual Macintosh running Mac OS 8.6.1 having mounted the servervolume.
 Sometimes "error -5000 : no privileges" occurs, sometimes the backup
 runs great - without any error.
 
 Is there any possibility to check what´s wrong ??
 
 Peter
 ATS Werbeagentur
 Bielefeld, Germany
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: error 100 (device rejected command).

2000-08-07 Thread Matthew Tevenan

Eric,

You can always ensure the readability of your backup sets by running a
verify. This is not the same as compare, but it reads back all of your files
from your discs and makes sure they are all readable and therefore
retrievable. This is under ToolsVerify.

Error 100 occurs because there was a problem communicating with your backup
drive. You should try a different brand of disc (if this has happened with
more than one disc). Also, make sure electromagnetic interference isn't
causing this--place the drive well away from any others for a test. Also
make sure Toast is up-to-date--4.1 is required. Other than that, you can try
disabling all inits except the base Mac OS set plus Toast 4.1 extensions and
the Retrospect SDAP Support extension.

If you still have problems, please call us directly. Our technical support
number is 925.253.3050, and we're open Monday through Thursday 9 to 4
Pacific Time, Friday 9 to 2:30.

Regards,

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
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 From: Eric Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 05:55:16 -0700
 To: retro-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: error 100 (device rejected command).
 
 I'm having trouble backing up to my (Fantom FireWire)Plextor 8/4/32A
 recently supported through 4.3. It seems that after most clients are backed
 up and after the compare I get the following error. If I run the same script
 again it will zip through the same place fine and move on the the next
 volume.
 
 
 -08/06/2000 5:39:33 AM: Copying Tang HD on Dr. Bott Server
 08/06/2000 5:41:36 AM: Comparing Tang HD on Dr. Bott Server
 Trouble reading: ³20-Total Backup² (639893504), error 100 (device
 rejected command).
 08/06/2000 5:42:05 AM: Execution incomplete
 
 
 So the two questions are
 
 Can I be sure of the integrity of my backup? and...  What can I do to solve
 this?
 
 
 
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error 100 (device rejected command).

2000-08-06 Thread Eric Prentice

I'm having trouble backing up to my (Fantom FireWire)Plextor 8/4/32A
recently supported through 4.3. It seems that after most clients are backed
up and after the compare I get the following error. If I run the same script
again it will zip through the same place fine and move on the the next
volume.


-08/06/2000 5:39:33 AM: Copying Tang HD on Dr. Bott Server
08/06/2000 5:41:36 AM: Comparing Tang HD on Dr. Bott Server
Trouble reading: ³20-Total Backup² (639893504), error 100 (device
rejected command).
08/06/2000 5:42:05 AM: Execution incomplete


So the two questions are

Can I be sure of the integrity of my backup? and...  What can I do to solve
this?



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Error 212 Contact Tech Support

2000-08-04 Thread Garret J. Cleversley

Gotta love that explanation. Well I know it says to contact tech support but
what the heck. I got a error 212 (media erased)..long story short ... NOW
WHAT?!!?  hmmm. maybe I should call tech support...  hey Matt ring ring
ring

It's a VXA drive- internal on a G3, Adaptec card and a whole heck of a lotta
ram... 

g


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RE: Aarrggh! 519 error...-Spanning Tree Protocol?

2000-07-31 Thread Rob Davies
Title: RE: Aarrggh! 519 error...-Spanning Tree Protocol?





If it is the Spanning Tree Protocol causing the problem then you have two alternative courses of action - 
1. Disable it entirely, or 
2. Enable Portfast at the Switch


The STP problem only affects Appletalk on the G3's  G4's, because the STP keeps the port closed during the critical seconds at startup, when the Mac broadcasts its preferred Appletalk Address. The fast Macs do not wait long enough for the port to open. Hence it may get a duplicate address. You can force the Mac to rebroadcast it's address by turning Appletalk off then on manually, after it is running. This should give it a new, unique Appletalk Address. 

Refer to Apple's Tech Info Library for a complete discussion of symptoms of this infuriating problem.


-Rob







We have a 519 network-loosing-connection-with-client-error, which i 
have traced (finally) to a new HP Procurve 2424M switch installed as 
a central switch in our star topology network.
It has 100tx links to SMC Tigerswitches in other buildings.

If the Blue and white G3 running retrospect is connected directly to 
the HP switch only 4 of our 30 clients get backed up

When i move the G3 to one of the arms of the star and plug into any 
SMC switch the backup runs just fine achieving speeds up to 60 
Mb/minute.

The HP switch does not report any errors

anyone come across this?


This might be a bit late to do any good, but I thought I'd mention one 
observation. I've had plenty of trouble in the past when setting up 
NetBoot labs where new switches have been installed. Starting with iMacs 
and BW G3s (the first Macs with built-in 10/100 Ethernet), switches with 
Spanning Tree turned on do not work well (if at all) with those Macs. You 
might check your HP switch to make sure to turn off Spanning Tree 
routing/switching for the ports where you have your Macs. Once this was 
done in my NetBoot labs, everything sprang to life and it worked 
perfectly. Hope this helps...


Fred



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RE: Aarrggh! 519 error...-Spanning Tree Protocol?

2000-07-31 Thread Lindsay Robertson
Title: RE: Aarrggh! 519 error...-Spanning Tree
Protocol?


Thanks, but STP is disabled, and the problem
still occurs even when I set up retrospect on an old PPC
601.

I firmly believe its an incompatibility between
protocols retrospect uses and the HP 2424m
HP have been helpful in supplying information
about their switch which supports
IEEE 802.1q, 802.1p, 802.1d, 802.3x

I wrote to Dantz weeks ago but have not even had
a reply!


l.

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Re: Hardware Error

2000-07-25 Thread Matthew Tevenan

David,

If the error occurs when this drive is connected to three different
machines, and you've tried multiple cables and terminators, I'd look toward
a drive problem. However, make sure you've cleaned the drive heads and tried
the drive without the other SCSI device(s). I'm assuming this is built-in
SCSI? If not, make sure you've tried a different card. Try some fresh tapes
in the drive too. 

If the drive still fails after swapping out all these variables, you've
isolated the problem to the only variable left--the tape drive. This is a
device error--generated by the device itself.

If you have further problems, please call tech support directly. Our number
is 925.253.3050, and we're open Monday through Thursday 9 to 4 Pacific Time,
Friday 9 to 2:30.

Regards,

Matthew Tevenan
Technical Support Specialist
Dantz Development Corporation
925.253.3050 
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 From: "David Thornton" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:30:43 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Hardware Error
 
 I've got Retrospect 4.2 running on a 7100/80, backing up to an HP 1533 DLT
 mechanism in an external enclosure. This drive is used only for a specific
 small backup set on a client machine, and backs up daily with a recycle
 backup weekly. About two or three times weekly, the script will fail with a
 hardware error 203, and ask for a new tape. The log shows the following
 information:
 
 Device trouble: ³1-Game Security², error 203 (hardware failure)
 Additional error information for device "HP DAT DDS-DC" [0:1],
 Sense  70 00 04 00 00 00 00 0e 00 00 00 00 44 00 01 00 00 d8
 (HP  |C1533A  |9503)
 
 The 203 is generally a SCSI related error, but because this error has
 appeared consistently when running this script while the drive was attached
 to three different computers (7100/80, G3/266 desktop, and Server G3/266
 beige), and with numerous different (new) cables  terminators, I'm leaning
 towards the problem being somewhere other than the SCSI chain. Also on the
 SCSI chain is a DLT-2000 that backs up a much larger set of files, and has
 never given a hardware error. Is it possible that the DLT mechanism itself
 is on its way out, or should I keep t-shooting the SCSI chain?
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice that you can give.
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Error 505 client is reserved.....

2000-07-20 Thread Joseph D'Andrea

All of a sudden our daily backup is failing with this message. Anyone 
have an idea what it means or how to fix it? Restarting the client 
machine did resolve the problem but I'd like to know the source of 
the problem.

Thanks,
___Joe___


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Aarrggh 519 error!

2000-07-20 Thread Lindsay Robertson


Hi, remember a while ago, i had a 519 net retry error that i couldn't 
work out...

Well it turns out that it appeared when we upgraded our central 
network Lantech switch to a HP Procurve 2424m and i could only back 
up any machines on the network if i avoided going through the HP 
switch.

I have found a workaround: if I turn on Link Encryption on each 
client everything runs smoothly!

It has no advanced features turned on. (eg STP)

can anyone explain this?



l.






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Re: Aarrggh 519 error!

2000-07-20 Thread John Gee

Hi, remember a while ago, i had a 519 net retry error that i
couldn't work out...
[...]
I have found a workaround: if I turn on Link Encryption on each
client everything runs smoothly!
[...]
can anyone explain this?

Link encryption might slow down the client and server enough that the 
network switch does not overload.

Having just purchased a switch this week that works fine under light 
load, and fails under all forms of heavy load, it is an easy guess! 
:-(
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Odd error message

2000-07-13 Thread Julia Frizzell

I've done some reconfiguring of our backups, and I'm getting an error 
message that I can't find listed anywhere.

The error number is -33 (directory full). It also says it can't save 
the snapshot. I've got tons of disk space (this is a HD file), so I 
don't think that's the issue, unless somehow the snapshot is so large 
that it can't save it?

Help?

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Re: Odd error message

2000-07-13 Thread andrew

there is a limit to the number of nested directories an files you can
have...and it depends on your operating system. Apple's TIL has info on the
max number of directories in a tree...I can't remember off the top of my
head.

HTH
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Subject: Odd error message


 I've done some reconfiguring of our backups, and I'm getting an error
 message that I can't find listed anywhere.

 The error number is -33 (directory full). It also says it can't save
 the snapshot. I've got tons of disk space (this is a HD file), so I
 don't think that's the issue, unless somehow the snapshot is so large
 that it can't save it?

 Help?

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 User Consultant/Analyst
 The Education Alliance
 Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University
 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300
 Providence, Rhode Island  02903-4226
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Re: Odd error message

2000-07-13 Thread Matthew Tevenan

Julia,

This can be a problem with file backup sets. As you know, a file backup set
is basically just a Macintosh file with all of your files condensed into it.

As such, it has a data fork and a resource fork. The resource fork stores
the catalog of the data, including a record of every single file as well as
the Snapshot of every volume you back up to it. It has a 16 MB size limit.
When it reaches this limit, it reports that the directory is full.

What I'm guessing has happened is that you've been backing up so many files
on so many volumes that the resource fork is just full. This can happen even
if you've been backing up using a selector to filter out files, if the
volumes the files came from have many files. Retrospect saves the Snapshot
of the entire volume--including a record of every file--even if it wasn't
backed up in its entirety.

My recommendations are to either define a Subvolume (see p. 168 of the
Retrospect 4.2 User's Guide) or several that contain the files you want to
back up from each client, which will result in smaller Snapshots. Or if you
don't care about the Snapshots at all, turn off this feature. To do this, go
into your script, click Options, choose the Catalog option group, then
uncheck "Save source Snapshots..."

Regards,

Matthew Tevenan
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 From: Julia Frizzell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 13:20:57 -0400
 To: "retro-talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Odd error message
 
 I've done some reconfiguring of our backups, and I'm getting an error
 message that I can't find listed anywhere.
 
 The error number is -33 (directory full). It also says it can't save
 the snapshot. I've got tons of disk space (this is a HD file), so I
 don't think that's the issue, unless somehow the snapshot is so large
 that it can't save it?
 
 Help?
 
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 User Consultant/Analyst
 The Education Alliance
 Northeast and Islands Regional Educational Laboratory at Brown University
 222 Richmond Street, Suite 300
 Providence, Rhode Island  02903-4226
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Odd error message

2000-07-13 Thread Cesar Morales

if your HD file is near 2 GB in size, that's your problem. The limit is 2Gb 
for storage set files, per Retrospect's manual.

Cesar


At 01:20 PM 7/13/00 -0400, you wrote:
I've done some reconfiguring of our backups, and I'm getting an error 
message that I can't find listed anywhere.

The error number is -33 (directory full). It also says it can't save the 
snapshot. I've got tons of disk space (this is a HD file), so I don't 
think that's the issue, unless somehow the snapshot is so large that it 
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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-26 Thread Rhona Cash


I also get the 519 error. I do agree that it is certain files that are
causing Retrospect to error out. I have gotten around this by subdivide
my script this let's my backup complete; however, when users connect to
the remote client server after the backups run the server crashes. I
must reboot the remote client server each morning but at least my backup

completes this way. I am still in the process of figure out exactly what

files are causing the problem. I have only eliminated folders at this
point I have a lot of data I backup so this is a very slow process. I
have ran Norton, TechTools and Disk Warrior but neither show any
problems. I think it's a Retrospect compatibility issue.

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Re: HP DAT Loader Hardware error

2000-06-26 Thread Philip Chonacky

Was there some other sypmtom involved?  In the past, when I have gotten that error, it 
was usually because the drive had not released the tape properly.  It could also be a 
misreported error, or there is a tape not loaded properly.


Hello:

I recently installed an HP DD3 Autoloader (external). It ran fine for 
the first set of tapes. When the user installed the second set, the 
drive started returning the following error:

Loader for "HP DAT DDS-DC, SCSI 1:5" reported a hardware failure when 
moving tapes.

The script then pauses until it times out.

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Re: HP DAT Loader Hardware error

2000-06-26 Thread Noah Eiger

Did not include much information in my original post. For the moment, 
it appear that there was a DDS-4 tape mixed in with the DDS-3 tapes. 
Everytime the loader got to the DDS-4, it ejected the entire caddy. 
Removing this tape seemed to have corrected the error.

nme

Was there some other sypmtom involved?  In the past, when I have 
gotten that error, it was usually because the drive had not released 
the tape properly.  It could also be a misreported error, or there 
is a tape not loaded properly.


Hello:

I recently installed an HP DD3 Autoloader (external). It ran fine for
the first set of tapes. When the user installed the second set, the
drive started returning the following error:

Loader for "HP DAT DDS-DC, SCSI 1:5" reported a hardware failure when
moving tapes.

The script then pauses until it times out.

Any ideas what this could be?
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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-25 Thread Lindsay Robertson

Hi it turns out my 519 -Net retry error is actually caused by files 
on the client that cannot be backed up.
If i remove the file the backup continues till it finds another. Each 
mac on my net seems to have at least a couple of these problematic 
files...

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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-21 Thread Dean Brissinger

Interestingly enough, I have many computers that back up fine 
when I use an Adaptec AHA-2906 (5MB/sec controller) SCSI controller 
in the server.  I upgraded the controller to a 2940UW (40MB/sec 
controller) and now I get -519 errors on 1/3 of both mac and PC 
clients.  I'm guessing that Retrospect is going too fast for the 
clients and thus resulting in -519's.  Has anyone else seen similar 
behavior?

I'm using an AIT-1 tape drive.  It doesn't matter which kind 
of tape drive I use.  I've also played with Exabyte Ellot 820's (high 
speed 8mm) and get the same result.


Or a SCSI terminator or ID number:)

Derek.

  it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4
no problemo
its only when i backup to a tape backupset...

Lindsay,

Since you mentioned that the tape drive is new and that backing up to a
file on the G4 is working ok, I'm thinking that something is amiss in the
SCSI voodoo department. Just 'cuz it's new, doesn't mean it works. ;-\
Have you tried a new or different cable?  Hooking the tape drive up to a
different Mac? A different tape drive? Any and all of these things can
lead you to an answer: cable, tape drive, scsi card, logic board even.

Just a thought,

Pam


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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-19 Thread Pam Lefkowitz

it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4 
no problemo
its only when i backup to a tape backupset...

Lindsay,

Since you mentioned that the tape drive is new and that backing up to a 
file on the G4 is working ok, I'm thinking that something is amiss in the 
SCSI voodoo department. Just 'cuz it's new, doesn't mean it works. ;-\ 
Have you tried a new or different cable?  Hooking the tape drive up to a 
different Mac? A different tape drive? Any and all of these things can 
lead you to an answer: cable, tape drive, scsi card, logic board even.

Just a thought,

Pam

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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-19 Thread Derek Ellerton

Or a SCSI terminator or ID number:)

Derek.

  it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4
no problemo
its only when i backup to a tape backupset...

Lindsay,

Since you mentioned that the tape drive is new and that backing up to a
file on the G4 is working ok, I'm thinking that something is amiss in the
SCSI voodoo department. Just 'cuz it's new, doesn't mean it works. ;-\
Have you tried a new or different cable?  Hooking the tape drive up to a
different Mac? A different tape drive? Any and all of these things can
lead you to an answer: cable, tape drive, scsi card, logic board even.

Just a thought,

Pam


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arrgh 519 error

2000-06-18 Thread Lindsay Robertson


Hi can you please help, i'm bashing my head on a brick wall...

i have retrospect 4.2 on a blue and white G3 acting as a backup server.
recently i noticed 4 clients were always giving a 519 network 
communication failed error each night.
each mac is otherwise fine, and we have a large busy network with no 
other problems.
i could not work out why these 4 (in different buildings,  different 
segments) would not back up.

They connect, scan the client, start to copy then instantly give a net retry.

at the same time we upraded out old DAT tape drive to a new DLT 4000 
and then i found most clients (about 20 out of 28 all came back with 
the same error.

I have noticed that they seem to work if i backup to a mac file 
backup set  instead of the tape backup set
BUT there are still several macs that backup reliably every day!!!

I've reinstalled the scsi drivers, reverted to the mac OS 9 base 
extension set, reinstalled Retrospect


what to do next???




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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-18 Thread Joy Richards

At 03:14 PM 6/19/2000 +1200, you wrote:
 
 Hi can you please help, i'm bashing my head on a brick wall...
 

...

 I've reinstalled the scsi drivers, reverted to the mac OS 9 base
 extension set, reinstalled Retrospect
 
 
 what to do next???

Next step:  Get the tech note from the web page.

Seriously,
Joy



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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-18 Thread Cal Smith


I am experiencing a similar problem.  Please specify which tech note on
what web page.  In fact, a URL would be helpful and appreciated

Thanks.

Cal

Joy Richards wrote:

 At 03:14 PM 6/19/2000 +1200, you wrote:
  
  Hi can you please help, i'm bashing my head on a brick wall...
  

 ...

  I've reinstalled the scsi drivers, reverted to the mac OS 9 base
  extension set, reinstalled Retrospect
  
  
  what to do next???

 Next step:  Get the tech note from the web page.

 Seriously,
 Joy



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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-18 Thread Joy Richards

At 11:53 PM 6/18/2000 -0500, you wrote:
 
 I am experiencing a similar problem.  Please specify which tech note on
 what web page.  In fact, a URL would be helpful and appreciated

The main list of tech notes is at:

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=technotes

You want #415 which covers error 519

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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-18 Thread Lindsay Robertson

Joy, thanx, but already got that, i've been right through it...

it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4 
no problemo
its only when i backup to a tape backupset...





  what to do next???

Next step:  Get the tech note from the web page.

Seriously,
Joy

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Re: arrgh 519 error

2000-06-18 Thread Joy Richards

At 05:00 PM 6/19/2000 +1200, you wrote:
 Joy, thanx, but already got that, i've been right through it...
 
 it doesn't appear to be a network problem at all.
 when i created a backupset on the hard drive i could backup a fast G4
 no problemo
 its only when i backup to a tape backupset...

Did you go through all the possibilities in the tech note?  It's as 
thorough as it gets in a tech note and an excellent reference to test the 
519 error for causes.

The only thing I'd suggest you do at this point is to contact Tech Support, 
either via the web page or by phone.  (Try the web page first, since you're 
in New Zealand)...

Good luck,
Joy



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Unknow Windows Error

2000-06-07 Thread Frank Lin

Hi all,
Here is a tough question:

What is
MapError: unknow Windows Error 2,273
TSessInfo::MessageBufferSend: UNetMessageBufferSend failed, winerr 2273,
error - 1001

and

MapError: unknow Windows error 2,310
TPCVol::ServerForceDisk: UNetShareDel failed, E:\, winerr 2310, error -1001

We are running Retrospect Server Backup v5.11
DELL PowerEdgy 2300 Dual PentiumII 400
OS NT4 SP5
ARCHIVE Python Tape drive
2 x 8G HD
4 G HD
3 G HD
1.5G HD

During BIG backup (inital backup) we sometimes (not always) get Error -205
(lost access to stroage medium).  But I can not find any problem with the
SCSI or the tape drive.


Any ideas or help is appreciated.

Thanks
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Error 203

2000-04-24 Thread Matthew Tevenan

Adam,

You are indeed receiving a hardware error. The sense code doesn't tell us
too much more than the error description does--basically that there has been
a hardware failure. I'd recommend consulting Dantz Tech Note 306,
"Recovering from Error 206, Media Failure," at

http://www.dantz.com/index.php3?SCREEN=tn306

Errors 203 and 206 are similar, and the troubleshooting I'd recommend is
identical.

Or call us directly to speak with a tech about troubleshooting this.

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 I've just started receiving this error code below when trying to back
 up my backup server. My guess is that it's a hardware error, but I
 wanted to make sure. Since I bought the drive on eBay, I don't have
 the manuals or any reference material except the HP site
 
 - 4/22/2000 2:20:06 AM: Copying 6100
 Trouble writing: "1-PB/Server [005]" (1048674304),
 error 203 (hardware failure).
 Additional error information for device "HP DAT DDS-DC" [0:5],
 Sense  f0 00 04 00 00 00 02 0b 00 00 00 00 44 00 01 00 00 54
 (HP  |HP35480A|1009)
 4/22/2000 8:51:28 AM: Execution stopped by operator
 Remaining: 829 files, 67.8 MB
 Completed: 0 files, zero KB
 Performance: 0.0 MB/minute
 Duration: 06:31:22 (00:01:20 idle/loading/preparing)
 
 Any one have any suggestions?
 
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[OT] Zip Drive file sharing error [was: Re: Repost of earliermessage]

2000-04-20 Thread Philip Chonacky

This might be a little OT for the Retrospect list.  Can you be a little more specific? 
 Is the zip cartridge they are inserting the same cart. they are using for backups?  
Is Retrospect running when the error messages comes up?  If these are two different 
carts., do they have the same name?

What version system software are you using?  What version Retrospect?  What version 
iomega extension?

This may be a case of a bad sharing prefs file.  Read/write volumes will have an 
invisible "Apple Share PDS" file at their root, Read-Only volumes will have a sharing 
preference file in the preferences folder under "File Sharing" with the name format  
"[Volume Name] PDF".  Try deleting this file (while file sharing is turned off), then 
restart file sharing and reset the file sharing preferences for the Zip volume in 
question.


Hope this helps.

I posted the following several days ago and haven't seen any response.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

- Hal


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I have a client who uses v4.2 of Retrospect for the Macintosh and makes
backups to 250mb Zip carts. The computer is a 7100/66 and is running
MacOS 8.1.

If a Zip cartridge is in place at the time the computer is booted, they
will get a message that File Sharing cannot be enabled. In this case
File Sharing is not active for either the shared folder on the hard
drive or the Zip cartridge.

If they insert a Zip cartridge after the computer is booted, they will
also get a message that File Sharing cannot be enabled. In this case
File Sharing is active for the shared folder on the computer's hard
drive, but remains inactive for the Zip cartridge.

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error 505?

2000-04-08 Thread andrew

What's an "Error 505...Client is reserved" mean?



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Re: iBook error reported from user

2000-04-07 Thread Luke Jaeger


 I don't use the back-up server -thing since I don't know how to make a
 scheduled recykle backup. The storagesets keep growing and growing for the
 laptops.
 
 We currentley back up to a harddrive where the storagesets can't be larger
 than two GB, remember.
 

Here's how you do it.

Write a regular backup script (not a backup server) that does a recycle
backup of your server. This will reset the backup set every time and
clear it out. Mine starts at 7 pm every weeknight.

Then write a backup server that starts 5 minutes later and runs all
night, using the same backup set. Back up your clients with this backup
server. As soon as the first script finishes, the backup server will
kick in and back up as many workstations as it has time for.
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