Hi Everyone,
Yesterday, while we were celebrating our Chinese New Year, one practitioner
shared the following with me.
I will really practice harder after the Chinese New Year.
Why? I asked.
Because it takes practice to truly witness.
So? I still did not quite understand.
I was trying to
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What I have learned about Chan is to be synced with the life force and
wisdom at all time and be detached from all
Hi Al,
This call of yours, is a calling in the conscious domain or knowledge
Buddhism. With this calling, you will receive response from those who value
certificates, schools, titles, etc.
True teachers exist only if our hearts resonate with they existences.
Everything else is irrelevant.
Perhaps it is time to outline how our practice is different, in case there
is anyone interested to learn. I can answer private or public emails or
setup a Skype audio conference at a convenient time for all interested
parties together.
- We have three levels of practices. One follows the
Hi, Our instructor at USC meditation class derived the following parallel
to share with you all.
We have such a delicacy called stinky tofu in China. Have you ever heard of
or taste it?
If you fry it, anyone can smell its stinkiness within a block. If you
steam it, anyone can smell it within
Bill speaks from his heart and experience. I am yet from another
school with over 50,000 thousand practitioners. I would recommend the
same as Bill.
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
I practice by myself also, but that is by circumstance and
certainly
not by choice.
PRACTICING alone is
Well put, Bill.
Every phenomenon in this universe, whether with form or without, are
neither right nor wrong, all are driven by the same life force and wisdom.
Just sync to it.
Bill Smart wrote:
I recently made some postings that caused some participants
unpleasantness. Sometimes that's
What does "seriously" or "nasty" mean? How about "more seriously" or
"less seriously" or "nastier".
Adjectives as such are but relative terms in a human language, which
are but forms of our conscious mind.
None of these words means anything when we sit down and shut up.
Even sit down
I was taught to place our heart at the level of Bodhisattva before we
even begin.
Meaning we begin by accepting all phenomenon of this universe as one.
Therefore, if we don't use "I" or "You", and use just "we", then we
could reduce our differentiation.
This way, we need less
Koan is for the practitioners to wake to the fact that we are enslaved
by our mind. Such that we could open our Inner Self and be in touch
the "real form" of the universe, which is the invisible life force and
wisdom of the universe in a complete separate domain from the domain of
the
Bill, you are right. Yet Hanh is not wrong.
Ten thousand dharma for ten thousand hearts. Each is a beauty in itself.
Ferrying sentient beings from a formed domain into a formless domain is
always a challenge.
We can only seed the cause sigh
Bill Smart wrote:
hat you do?
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Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
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As Chan practitioners, we practice to detach ourselves from all
forms,
because all forms are transient, impermanent and empty by nature.
When we see all forms as emptiness, then we see true form
Hi Mayka,
Each of us are who we are, because of cause and effect. Similarly, due
to cause and effect, each Buddhist linage is what it is. Even though
most of the schools today originated from the Six Patriarch, after
thousand of years of hearing only what I understood., the teachings do
As always, each time, when we expressed an opinion, we could take
usually just one position. This DL issue is much more complicated and
no different than most of the world events. How can we express all the
opinions from all different angles with language? I don't know the
answer.
Here
Jody, Don't thank me. I am not taking sides. :-)
None of us knows the whole truth. We all are just guessing. Perhaps
that's the fun of it, ignorance.
JM
Jody W. Ianuzzi wrote:
Hello Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
Thank you.
JODY
"WE MUST BE THE CHANGE WE WISH
T
. Is there a way to comment by including all the
perspectives and angles with our current language tools? All forms are
relative and interdependent to other forms. Opinions result us to be
lost in relativities.
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
Jue Miao Jing Ming,
Thanks for the
history lesson. I
Chan teaching." "Chan
practice is not practice. Just called practice." "No path is also
the path."
:-)
Bill Smart wrote:
Jue Miao Jing Ming,
Thailand is fine. No snow. No rain. 30+ deg C (about 80F).
1. I also believe Chan (zen) extracted the
Thank you Sensei. I really really like the way you put it. Indeed, when
we live it, everything just happens.
With your permission, I shall forward to two groups.
JM
Harvey So Daiho Hilbert wrote:
With palms together,
Good Morning Everyone,
Our Zen is our life, not our rules or precepts
Good morning to All,
Our Teacher, Chan Master Wu Jue Miao Tian remind us repeatedly, Our
practice begins with Bodhisatva. what does it mean?
This statement can be understood in many ways. Position our heart at
the Bodhisatva level to begin, so that we are already closer to be a
Buddha.
Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Good morning to All,
Our Teacher, Chan Master Wu Jue Miao Tian remind us repeatedly, Our
practice begins with Bodhisatva. what does it mean?
This statement can be understood in many ways. Position our heart at
the Bodhisatva level to begin, so that we are already
Charlie, Thank you for your post. Anything from our hearts are precious.
Yes, retarded kids are no different than anyone else. At least it is
so in our school. We are all retarded somehow to some degree. We all
experienced periods of being controlled by impulses, physical handicaps,
:
Jue Miao Jing Ming - My Teacher for the first 15 years set up
meditation classes in the prisons and the drub rehabs.
Did you ever work in the Federal Prison in Memphis, Tennessee? I am not
sure if you are comparing people in prison to the mentally retarded,
however I would like to add
modern and simplified while Chan is still quite Buddhist/Taoist.
Most of the terms in Chan in our school is still quoted from Diamond
Sutra, Platform Sutra, Heart Sutra, Tao-Te-Jing, Shin-Shin-Ming.
JM
Mark Perew wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺�~Y精�~X~N wrote:
Harvey So Daiho
Karma is taught in our school as an unregulated Chi, or disturbed Chi,
or Chi blockage. There are karma of present generation and of previous
lives (energy never die). All discomfort, not resulted from injury, are
cause by karmic blockage. This is the basis of acupuncture.
Retardation is a
as well? I
would
enjoy looking at the Chinese text, too, when sitting at my office.
Heshou, Kai
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It sounded like, "Om, Ma, Ni, Pei, Mi, Hom." A purification chant in
Sanskrit.
In our practice, if you focus on "Heart Chakra, root chakra, Sacrum
chakra, kidney chakra, wisdom chakra, Zen chakra" as per each sound.
Loop them into an Chi channel. Keep it at a steady pace and within
Each of us are subjects of our karma caused by our previous lives.
Good, bad, right and wrong are just labels resulted from the judgment of
our limited ego. World of spirit is a domain much free, wide and powerful.
In the world of forms, what we can do is to put our best foot forward
within
Below is what I have heard (like Ananda) and gradually witness.
All terms, labels and concepts form a world in our brain describing what
is happening in the world of lives, where everything is occurring as per
order of nature or dharma.
In the world of description, Bodhisatva is someone
check out http://www.heartchan.org the largest at home Chan
practitioners' group from Taiwan. Very Asian :-)
Jeremy Taylor wrote:
Hello,
I just recently joined the group, and wanted to introduce myself to
everyone. My name is Jeremy, and I live in a small town in upstate New
York, not
Hi Al,
If you get back into Zazen, you would realize that this group is your
duty to keep and support. No matter what.
sorry :-)
Al wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I command you to chant 100 Bodhisattva Vows and
do 500 bows.
I am going to do that. What is a good
exchanges have pretty limited
utility in Zen, though there are some exceptions. Much better to toss
the book and just look around at reality.
Edgar
On Aug 19, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Transmission is something to be e
Jody, You are right. The whole is the universal consciousness. All
practices leads to sync us with the whole. While someone like Edgar,
may analysis, theorize, understand, so called consciousness (just a
label), or chanting or breathing (just a dharma), surrender all minds,
big or small,
intellectual
understanding in itself is not realization, it is merely the finger,
not the moon.
Best,
Edgar
On Aug 30, 2008, at 3:32 AM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Hi Edgar, Is there a need to understand what is pure and what is
consciousness? Don't we already had everything within us
PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Hi Al,
I don't know whether the "other guy" you were talking about is Donald
Hwong. I am Donald Hwong. I switched my email to my Dharma Name,
JMJM. A dharma name is a name given by my teacher as a recognition for
Hi Al, I don't seem to understand your comment on what I wrote. I
don't find them relate to each other. Can you explain? Thanks, JM
i.e. exercise? feel better? evil? happy? Do use any strong words you
prefer. It is okay..
Fitness63 wrote:
覺妙精明 Without the correct
position yourself. Perhaps it is time to take a risk? :-) JM
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Hi Al, I don't seem to understand your comment on what I wrote. I
don't find them relate to each other. Can you explain? Thanks, JM
i.e. exercise? feel better? evil? happy? Do use any strong
surrender of
ego.
JM
Fitness63 wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - I don't seem to understand your
comment on what
I wrote. I don't find them relate to each other.
OK. You say Chan is about karma and liberation? I agree.
I think that HAPPY PEOPLE ZEN is what is now being taught in many
places
Aha, then we are on the same page. I have some sessions to enter
today. When I have time, I will try to paint a clearer picture.
Thanks, JM.
Fitness63 wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - I suspect that Zen is just a mental balancing
excercise without spirituality.
I agree that the New Age
There are too many scriptures, masters, terms, speeches already.
Therefore, there are too many interpretations, definitions already in
our mind. Therefore I shall try to use as few known terms as possible.
Just read between the lines with a general understanding will be enough.
Chan is a very
is form, all the
particular details we observe as things and energies are all forms
rippling in the undivided sea of Tao.
So there is at root only Tao and the forms it continually takes on
which then dissolve.
Edgar
On Sep 5, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote
Al is always Al. Fun!
I am however, hats off to you for your refusal to moderate. I am on
your side. No matter how we teach, the wake up got to come from the
inside. The door to Buddha is always open. It is the door to our
hearts that are frequently blocked.
MU in Chinese really is a
Hi All,
Based on the foundation that I have posted earlier that Chi, or life
force, or God, or consciousness, or OE, is the supporting power to all.
Everything else is the result of many different causes and causes of
causes. What does it mean in the macro sense? How do we apply that
Chris,
Excellent. Yes, energy occurs only when we were most clam and relax and
least expected. That energy is yours and not from outside? Not an
illusion? If so, then please tell me how many chakra that listed here
you can sense any kind of vibration or heat?
Chris, I also like to add. It is this energy, or chi, that you
cultivate and not an emotion of sadness or joy. It is important that
you are aware of the difference. JM
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Chris,
Excellent. Yes, energy occurs only when we were most clam and relax
Hi All,
There is a reason that Edgar post what he did. There is a reason for Al
to post what he did. There is also reasons for Bill and me and Mike and
Chris to post what we did.
The Chan of these discussion is not to differentiate who is right or who
is wrong. What to agree or what not
nks...Bill!
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Hi All,
There is a reason that Edgar post what he did. There is a reason
for Al
to post what he did. There is also reasons for Bill and me and
Mike and
Chris to post what we did.
Hi All,
Often we said to our selves, I hate myself. What's the origin of that?
Often when we go shopping, our decisions are more promptu then logical.
What's the cause of that? In our mind is a flawless software program,
where does all the inspirations coming from?
Communication experts
, then perhaps you are thinking.
Drop the thinking, trust your heart, the original Divine.
The world is One, meaning complete and whole and always providing.
There is no need to be defeated by labels, they are human creations.
JM
Fitness63 wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - The question is what
.
We are now onto something. Let me know your response.
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
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...all Zen is from Chan.
From what I've heard from you of Chan, I'd say zen is bare
ing in our Chi and not our senses 24/7.
JM
Roshi - American Zen Association - you like this title? :-)
Bill Smart wrote:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:
...all Zen is from Chan.
From what I've heard from you of Chan, I
Great. I think we finally understand each other. Yes, beyond "just
this" into impermanent form of things, we need to focus deeper into the
essence of things - chi - which connects everything together. Do give
it a try. JM
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
I'm not arguing with you. I
that.
All spirituality is an illusion - true spirituality, false
sprituality, blue sprituality, bad sprituality, etc...
...Bill!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill, What is your definition
dictionary is Buddha Nature. :-)
There is no one to convert to no where. Just some are more delusional
than others. No offense.
Fitness63 wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - Hi Bill, Your post was what I expected. If
you
had mentioned in the first place that spirituality to you has no meaning
, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
chan.jmjm@ wrote:
On the contrary, Al. What I meant was, if Bill admitted at the
beginning that Zen is just a mental balancing exercise, then my
point is
made. Since his did not agree with my observation, yet his Inner
Self
did, he had
you like it? Does it have good
Chi or bad Chi? Can I heal or hurt someone with it? If I can, Al
had better WATCH OUT!
...Bill!, Big Fish
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On the contrary, Al
Chris, We are all equal under the sun. We are all supported by the same
universal life force. Big or small, teacher or students are labels
invented for us to survive in the impermanent formed world. In the real
world of universal life force, we are just bunch of invisible, nameless
energy
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Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bill, This is almost midnight here in LA. Again, you wrote as
always, sincerely. Let me try to explain in simpler terms.
The simpler the better. Truth is always very, very simple.
There is only one
There are two types of Chi, internal and external. Qi-Gong, pronounce
Cheee-Gong is a practice which the teacher gives students the Chi, which
is external or additional Chi or Yang Chi (means strong and masculine).
While Sitting Chan, in japan it is called Za (sit) Zen (Chan),
cultivates
to such when discussing
earlier texts). Zen is all about the here now, there is zero
supernatural element to Zen.
Zen does accept that right action facilitates enlightenment in this
lifetime though.
Edgar
On Sep 3, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Hi Al,
I don't know whether
Got it. Thanks...
Edgar Owen wrote:
Hi JM,
For my views on consciousness and OE please read my paper
http://EdgarLOwen.com/consciousness.pdf
http://EdgarLOwen.com/consciousness.pdf
Best,
Edgar
On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Hi Edgar,
Thank you
attention, JM
Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Got it. Thanks...
Edgar Owen wrote:
Hi JM,
For my views on consciousness and OE please read my paper
http://EdgarLOwen.com/consciousness.pdf
http://EdgarLOwen.com/consciousness.pdf
http://EdgarLOwen.com/consciousness.pdf
http
Hi Bill,
Can you share with me what have you experienced/witnessed with Only THIS
or Just Sit.
Thanks,
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
Al,
Everthing you know and feel is based on belief and faith. Even
science is based on the belief in cause and effect and faith in our
rational capabilities. The
e interview was over and you had to leave the room).
So, JMJM, what's in your wallet?
...Bill!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED].. wrote:
Hi Bill,
Can you share with me what have you experienced/witnessed
with Only
THIS
or Just
Dear Jackson,
The following are my perspective for your reference.
The way to happiness is whether we are happy with ourselves. Meaning,
the environment may be harsh, unfair, disruptive, but we could be at
ease with what we have done. As long as we are at peace with what we
have
Got it. Thanks, JM
PS. Often I don't get all postings either. Frequently they arrived
too late. Oh well, that's technology...
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
For some reason when I try to REPLY to your postings using the website
the text isn't copied into the REPLY space. I think
wrote:
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - Indeed, even the chakra connections, chi flow,
etc. occur most fluidly when we expect the least. Our head really blocks
off a lot of things
Did you really write this, or do you have someone translating for you? I
hope you are not offended, but sometimes
Al, How about this one from our San Francisco practitioner, Guy French?
Original Message
Subject:[HeartChan] Re: [Fwd: Stillness In Motion
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fuu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Heart Chan
Yes, Chinese Chan are even much more diverse and different in practice
and teaching. For instance, our at-home practice school, are not
recognized by those with a temple, shaving heads and robe wearing. :-)
Edgar Owen wrote:
Chris,
Yes, you are referring to the 'sudden' versus the
Hi guys, What is satori? Is it sudden or gradual? Is it permanent or
on and off? If you have any Buddhist term to refer to, it would help.
Much obliged, JM
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about
, is the concept
of
satori meaningful, as only in the world of relativity and dualism
can
there be such a distinction.
Edgar
On Sep 17, 2008, at 11:19 AM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明
wrote:
Hi guys, What is satori? Is it sudden or gradual? Is it permanent
or
on and off
Hi Guys,
What does your teaching say, if any, what to do after Satori?
Of course, all teaching by itself is maya. But the teacher may have
said something
Thanks,
JM
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading!
...
and nothing special.living our lives and learning to be more
skillful.
no difference, satori no satori
just more aware...
nothing special
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chan.jmjm@ wrote:
Hi
.
This is the way I was taught in a Japanese Zen Buddhist zendo many
years ago. All of this does not now represent my current
understanding of 'enlightenment' (Just THIS!).
...Bill!
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覺妙精明
If that is the case in Ox Herding, (I don't know what that is, please
provide link), then it coincide with our school's teaching. After
Satori, then one liberates every sentient being. In other words, enter
the mud and grow the lotus. Or cultivate the merit, on the way to
Buddhahood. Or
Well put, SimiNotes, since words do not count, neither are the
following.. I love it...
Our school teaches everyone to cultivate the chi and the chakras. In
Chinese, there is no word for mind. We have either heart or brain.
So, it is easy for us to say, let go of the brain and let the
Hi, we have a FREE seminar in Irvine, CA by a Dr. PC Lo. See attached.
If you have anyone who may be interested, please forward this email.
Thank you,
JM
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about it
Thank you, Bill. JM
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
There are many links which show these pictures. You can google 'zen
oxherding' or go to http://www.shambhala.org/dharma/ctr/oxherding/.
...Bill!
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[EMAIL
/.
http://www.shambhala.org/dharma/ctr/oxherding/.
...Bill!
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If that is the case in Ox Herding, (I don't know what that is,
please
provide link
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Karin wrote:
Jue Miao Jing Ming - wrote:we have a FREE seminar in Irvine, CA by a
Dr. PC Lo. See attached
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Edgar Owen wrote:
Sunrise Earth, it's just still cameras observing nature in different
locations for a whole 1/2 hour.
Edgar
On Sep 22, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Charlie wrote:
What television series encompassed the best example of
In our school, after almost 30 years of teaching, it is 75 women to 25
men. And most of the men, at least those I know, joined Chan through
their woman. :-)
roloro1557 wrote:
Hi Karin,
Are you still here?
There aren't many zen women, at least not in my experience. I have
some ideas
Our heart is the pureland and our body is our temple... Nothing else
needed.
cid830 wrote:
Welcome Margie. My name is Chris and I am a backsliding
practitioner. I have been practicing on and off for the past 20
years. It seems that I can maintain the discipline for a good
practice only
Oh, let me add and every sentient being and every suffering is our
nourishment
cid830 wrote:
Welcome Margie. My name is Chris and I am a backsliding
practitioner. I have been practicing on and off for the past 20
years. It seems that I can maintain the discipline for a good
practice
The volume/degree of act out or flow through is called
merit There is no merit by just sitting, no matter where..
Edgar Owen wrote:
Hi Margie,
Your words when the dancer becomes the dance or
the poem writes itself. are spot on.
To my mind there are two levels of Zen. The
Hi Mike, Aha, be ware of Asian woman. Did you notice the Japanese
woman raised their tone by one octave when they talk? :-)
mike brown wrote:
Hi Al,
Still here (Japan) as a matter of fact. It'll be 4 years this month. I
came here for the zen, but will stay for the women. Mike.
-
Oho, beware, beware.
All Buddha Nature are equal.
No one is more guru than other.
All spoken words are incomplete and valid in relativity.
Each journey is unique...
Every moment is a lesson
Al wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone has his/her own path. My belief is
that letting go
Hi Al, Wow. sweat blood and tear. _/\_
May I point out, no matter what we do to the world. The sun still rises
every morning. Birds still fly and flower still bloom.
Let go of our judgmental mind is the change. Even that needed to be
done without expectation.
Often it is the expectation
Right on, Brother Bill. Anything written down, spoken about are just
forms to describe a direct connection to the universal life force and
wisdom.
As Edgar stated numerous times, nothing else matters... When we
let go of our mind, we let go of our frame of reference. No more
capable of
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Right on, Brother Bill. Anything written down, spoken about are just
forms to describe a direct connection to the universal life force and
wisdom.
As Edgar stated numerous times, nothing else matters
the principals
that you follow?
Thank You,
Chris
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right on, Brother Bill. Anything written down, spoken about are
just
forms to describe a direct connection
Well, these are important questions, Al. Chan does not have a big Bible
or Superior Court. My personal experience is that everyone of us are
rewarded accordingly. Meaning, we suffer because what we have done in
this life or previous. We are peaceful and content also because what we
have
are 'better' or 'worse' in Zen.
There is no relativity. Things just are as they are. An eternal
mystery continuously revealed.
Edgar
On Oct 3, 2008, at 7:19 PM, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 wrote:
Well, these are important questions, Al. Chan does not have a big Bible
or Superior Court. My
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Well Chris, I am not sure I understand your question. The way our
Teacher teaches is nothing but meditation for 15 years. Then he
correlates Buddhist sutras and Tao Te
Just learned about this web site...
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Would be fun for this very active and diverse group.
What do you think?
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Hi All,
What do you know, read, taught, heard about the 8th Consciousness -
Alaya and beyond into the Light Consciousness?
Thanks,
JM
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. It sometimes is on
the other way round. This is why is very important to learn how to
see with eyes of the Buddha and not with eyes of the humans.
A white lotus flower to you all
Mayka
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'. Does it mean hypnotics?
Regards,
Anthony
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Subject: Re: [Zen] Position of Karma in Zen
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Date: Saturday, 29 November
Chan is One, or . The One which is the universe, which includes
everything we see and not see, know and not know.
There is this perpetual life force which manifests everything in the
universe. Some has a form and some are formless. Yet all such
manifestations are relative, transient and
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Hi, Having Trouble Lurking Bill,
Yes! I plead guilty to the charge!
I love strong statement... I always enjoyed your posting.
What other type
.
...Bill!
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My Dear Bill,
Since there is no YOU, there is truly no one to pick on. :-)
In words, everything that you have said is the same as our
school
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