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--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, Bill. This kind of wording is difficult for me to
understand... JM
Bill Smart wrote:
Oh! Now I get it...NOT!
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Buddha, meaning universal truth.
There is nothing to pick or choose. Everything is As Is.
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
Thanks for your post. I really never thought you were 'picking on'
me. Many times I thought you were challenging my postings which is
good for me and good
Edgar and Mark,
I've always said Buddha Nature is the ultimate WYSIWYG!
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark,
I presume by that you mean we can never directly perceive reality
as
it actually is. I agree with that. What we do directly
Bill Smart wrote:
Mayka,
Thank you for your very candid and profound post. I appreciate
your
sharing with the forum your admiration for Thich Nhat Hanh. You
are
representing him and his teachings very, very well.
Please remember that I don't get your posts in my email
terms from other faith to explain itself. Therefore
categorize some of the terms into zen and not zen is not zen. In
the
world of forms, all is partial, relative and incomplete.
Just for your reference as is. :-)
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
I really like 'As Is'. It might
Anthony,
My remarks are embedded in your post below:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill,
Â
Don't lurk.
I have to lurk, and I have to return to it more faithfully. I'm
extremely busy attending to affairs that have could have a very
profound affect
Mayka,
Thank you for your very candid and profound post. I appreciate your
sharing with the forum your admiration for Thich Nhat Hanh. You are
representing him and his teachings very, very well.
Please remember that I don't get your posts in my email, and I don't
always check the website.
being whatsoever.
In the end, be liberated from all sufferings, be content with every
moment is the only thing matters.
A bow to all,
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
Mayka,
Thank you for your very candid and profound post. I appreciate
your
sharing with the forum your
I'm having trouble lurking...
Karma does not have a position in zen.
Karma is a belief in a lot of religions, like Buddhism, Hinduism and
even Christianity - 'as you sow, so shall you reap', 'if you're 'bad'
you'll go to hell but if you're 'good' you'll go to heaven', etc...
Maintain a clear
-and-
effect. They're both moot vis-a-vis zen. Just more maya to clear
out of the way, more bullship to wade through.
In Zen Buddhism (upper case 'Z'), karma has a very important role, or
so I assume.
Happy Thanks Giving,
JM
Happy Now,
...Bill!
Bill Smart wrote:
I'm having trouble
Mayka,
With no disrespect to Thich Nhat Hanh, he is a self-proclaimed
Buddhist so presumbably practices and teaches zen from a Buddhist
perspective. Buddhism recognizes karma so what else would you expect
from him?
The reason I post a lot about the the relationship between zen and
Buddhism
, at 10:28 AM, Bill Smart wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com, Edgar Owen edgarowen@ ..
wrote:
ANYONE STILL HERE?
Â
Edgar
Edgar et al,
I'm stll here lurking only. My father was very ill and I had to
flyÂ
to the US to be with him. Unfortnutaely he died when I was
somewhereÂ
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ANYONE STILL HERE?
Edgar
Edgar et al,
I'm stll here lurking only. My father was very ill and I had to fly
to the US to be with him. Unfortnutaely he died when I was somewhere
over the Pacific Ocean flying out of
Mayka,
I'm not able to get your posts as email - nor Mike Brown's. I don't
know why. I'm in the website now so I did see this one.
TNH's meditation guide/koan 'Present moment. Wonderful moment.' is
saying EXACTLY what I said in my previous post: ...there is no 'you'
doing anything, there
Lotus Flower,
You wrote:
I was actually just making a little joke by adpating a well known
koan to specifically address Mac A. Roni. The original koan
is: 'What your original face before your mother was born?' or 'Show
me your face before your mother was born.' Since Mac A. Roni
(macaroni)
Chris, No, I'm talking about buddha nature...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
... Show us your face before your mother was born.
Bill,
Are you talking about his mother?
Chris
Yes...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill,
Â
Do you mean to say, 'zen does NOT try to convince you...'?
Â
Regards,
Anthony
--- On Sat, 20/9/08, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Zen] Re
!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Al [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Smart Praying or chanting while doing cardio would not
count. If you're praying, you're Only PRAYING! If you're chanting,
you're Only CHANTING! If you're 'doing cardio' (walking/running on a
treadmill?), then you're Only
ignore it, but I'm not obsessed with it either.
When horny, I have sex, if my partner is willing. Okay?
...Bill!
Regards,
Anthony
--- On Fri, 19/9/08, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Zen] Re: What's after Satori
To: Zen_Forum
'...
the Kingdom of Heaven is within you.' Luke 17:21. Buddha Nature is
within you. You just have to look for it. The search and your life
after finding it is definitely not boring.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anthony,
My remarks/responses
still have a hard time separating Zen and Buddhism, even though
I
have always believed 100% in the Zen philosophy, while not fully
encompassing the Buddhist religion.
Thank You,
Chris
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
Chris, et al,
I'm not saying
After satori some lose the ability to write complete sentences and
respond to everything in loosely connected phrases...
Just kidding! ;)
Siminotes, Welcome! I haven't seen you on the forum before. I hope
you will continue to participate. I enjoy your posts. I especially
enjoyed one a few
we could to do to realize that? How about
to be
Buddha? Do you talk about any of these? Do you talk about merit?
Or
just slap on your face? Thanks, Donald ?
Bill Smart wrote:
After satori some lose the ability to write complete sentences and
respond to everything in loosely
below. Just substitute 'kensho' for 'satori' and you'll see what I
meant to say...I've corrected the posting below...
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JMJM,
'Kensho' is a term used in Japanese Zen Buddhism to describe the
first awakening
. There is some disagreement, but in
almost all of the Zen enlightenment stories satori is described as
if
it is a permanent and irreversible transition. Frankly I doubt
that
is true in all cases. If so each would still be a satori.
Edgar
On Sep 18, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Bill Smart wrote
that Satori is an irreversible transition. Then
it
could be what we called, witness the Original Self. I don't know
whether zen has similar term?
Thanks, JM
Bill Smart wrote:
Edgar,
You are right. I corrected this post in a subsequent post. I
wrote 'satori' but meant 'kensho
Even within Japanese Zen Buddhism there are references to
the 'sudden' and 'gradual' schools. Soto emphasises shikantaza
(clear mind) and Renzai empahsises koans. (Both schools by the way
use both techniques.)
My teacher, whose lineage was from both Soto and Renzai schools, told
me that
JMJM,
From my training I believe 'satori' is a Japanese term meaning 'sudden
breakthrough' or 'initial breakthrough'.
To address your questions directly, my understanding of satori is that
it is sudden and it is not permanent.
Japanese Zen Buddhism teaches growing degrees of enlightenment
@yahoogroups.com, v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill Smart wrote:I do remember reading Thoreau where he sat
comtemplating in front of his cabin all day. That was something
probably very close to zazen, but he certainly didn't call it zazen.
OK, I go to the gym, do cardio for 30 minutes, listen
I agree...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, v [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
mike brown wrote:without something tangible like zazen practice to
underpin their experience they might miss the meaning of what just
happened to them and put it down to something mystical/imaginative/a
gift from
JMJM, that definition fits my understanding of the concept
of 'satori'...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you for all of your input about satori. I used google
translator
and I found the Japanese equivalent, æã
Chris, et al,
I'm not saying that I beleive 'satori' is real - it is maya. Your
self is maya and all those things that occlude your Buddha Nature
(Just THIS!) are maya. I was merely answering some questions about
what the Japanese term 'satori' means, and how it is used in Japanese
Zen
is that zazen is like a standard
methodology
for the average person while really treading your own path is much
preferable - if you are up to it
Edgar
On Sep 15, 2008, at 10:06 PM, Bill Smart wrote:
I agree with both of you, satori (first glimpse/initial
breakthrough
your zen is. Mike.
- Original Message
From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 13 September, 2008 9:03:15
Subject: [Zen] Re: Antwort: JUDO
Al,
Everthing you know and feel is based on belief and faith. Even
science is based
Jackson,
Wow! What luck! You're in the perfect situation to write a TV sit-
com that exposes and ridicules these kind of peoples.
You should stay where you are, take lots of notes, write a 'pilot'
and send it out to some of the networks. (Don't bother with Fox.)
By doing this each day
JMJM,
For some reason when I try to REPLY to your postings using the website
the text isn't copied into the REPLY space. I think that is because
you are using HTML to write your postings and not text. Anyway, I've
reproduced your posting below and my response follows:
JMJM wrote:
Hi Bill,
Outlook it is the FORMAT button that you
click and then click plain text.
You can now reply like any normal person and nobody will be the
wiser. I did not want to embarrass you so I sent this email
privately.
Best wishes,
Al
- Original Message -
From: Bill Smart
your
life fully and hopefully your actions/words will indicate the truth
of zen and how deep your zen is. Mike.
- Original Message
From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] org
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com
Sent: Saturday, 13 September, 2008 9:03:15
Subject: [Zen] Re: Antwort: JUDO
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
Edgar,
Thanks for trying to clargy this.
I accept your explanation of how you use the word 'chi' or 'OE',
and
have never disagreed with it. I have first encountered it as
being
called Buddha Nature and now refer
. That seems very selfish. It
should be called Dedicated Servants Nature in honor of the folks
that actually were working during the nine years that fat boy was
meditating.
Al
- Original Message -
From: Bill Smart
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September
Jeni,
I don't know about achieving enlightenment through sex, but a double
pepperoni pizza with extra cheese does it for me...
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jeni Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes it can feel like a union with God and the Universe and
the other person and
Thanks. Please do. When I'm told I'm wrong or my posts are challenged
in some way, I do take a second look at them - believe it or not.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
Chris
Edgar,
I'm in the process of reading your paper on time. It written with
meticulous care to follow the scientific process. Why then would you
be drawn into this kind of psuedo-science?
For just one example, the first fatal flaw in this experiment is the
assumption that Matthieu Ricard is
Edgar,
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments about sex and zen, and in
fact think that applies to lots of other areas.
This is why I differentiate between Zen Buddhism (a religion) and zen
(what you have referred to as 'True Zen').
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen
Edgar,
Thanks for trying to clargy this.
I accept your explanation of how you use the word 'chi' or 'OE', and
have never disagreed with it. I have first encountered it as being
called Buddha Nature and now refer to it as Just THIS! becasue I
don't want it to be tied to tightly to Buddhism.
, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Bill Smart wrote:
Edgar,
I wholeheartedly agree with your comments about sex and zen, and
in
fact think that applies to lots of other areas.
This is why I differentiate between Zen Buddhism (a religion) and
zen
(what you have referred to as 'True Zen
, Bill Smart wrote:
Edgar,
Thanks for trying to clargy this.
I accept your explanation of how you use the word 'chi' or 'OE',
and
have never disagreed with it. I have first encountered it as being
called Buddha Nature and now refer to it as Just THIS! becasue I
don't want
Al,
Exactly!
IF (and that's a big IF) you realize something is an illusion and
identify it as such, you can qualify it as much as you'd like.
BUT (and that's a bodacious booty) if you're saying something is not
an illusion you shouldn't use qualifiers. For example, you wouldn't
talk about
Dear Flower of the Lotus,
Thank you for your posting. I always think getting everyone's
defintions of terms is very important.
Although I've already given my defintion, I'll give it here again:
Sprituality is Maya. It is a sub-division of Maya into a dualism of
corporal (physical including
and not grow the Buddha Nature.
After all these long posts, which is very dangerous, I recommend
one
thing and one thing only, cultivate your Chi in your Zazen.
Everything
else will come naturally. All labels, definition, knowledge, sutra
are
second hand at best.
JM
Bill Smart wrote
JMJM,
I DID NOT agree with you that zen was 'just a mind-balancing
exercise'. I agreed with you that zen was not spritual. Zen is no-
mind, so there is nothing to balance - WYSIWYG, no adjustments
necessary.
I'm not sure what your remark below about my 'inner self' means. I
guess you think
to know...
Bill!, Big Fish
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JMJM,
I DID NOT agree with you that zen was 'just a mind-balancing
exercise'. I agreed with you that zen was not spritual. Zen is no-
mind, so there is nothing to balance - WYSIWYG
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...all Zen is from Chan.
From what I've heard from you of Chan, I'd say zen is bare bones Chan,
stripped of all of what seems to me to be it's superfulous and self-
indulgent superstitions.
to 8)
Then there is. (oxherding 9 and 10)
Okay! I feel better now! I think I'll have another cup of tea...
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Al,
You're asking very difficult questions.
I'll pass for now on the one about 'What
JMJM,
I'm not arguing with you. I don't really care what names we use such
as Chan/zen, Chi/JUST THIS, po-TAY-to/po-TAH-to. I only care that when
we use these terms we know what they mean, or at leat know whether
we're referring to the same thing or not.
From you postings I don't think
. For instance, your Chi is
bad,
meaning you don't look too well. This calligraphy has no chi,
meaning,
it flows bad.
Let me know if you have any other question.
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
You wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com mailto:Zen_Forum%
40yahoogroups.com,
Jue Miao Jing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill, What is your definition of spiritualism spirituality in the
common day context? Thanks, JM
Bill Smart wrote:
JMJM,
Thanks for your clarifications.
Much of your description of Chi below sounds like Buddha Nature as
that term is used in English
Al, I'm at Ox Herding Pictures stage 42...
Concepts like chi, karma, dharma, buddha nature and bovine bunching
pictures are teaching tools - training wheels. Use them if you want
to, but don't get too ATTACHED to them.
Just sit...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Fitness63 [EMAIL
Al et al,
Since we're on a lighter note I'd like to pass on that 'chi' in Thai
is a verb that means 'to pee'. I always think of that when I read
JMJM's posts. Maybe that's why I've had such a hard time swallowing
his admonitions to embrace the chi.
...Bill!
--- In
JMJM,
Although I do not agree with everything in your recent posting
attached, I was not at all disappointed.
I especially liked your quote from the Platform Sutra:
We originally have what is pure, unmovable, undying and sufficient.
...and your comment right after that:
It is our mind and our
Al,
You're asking very difficult questions.
I'll pass for now on the one about 'What is the point of living a
good life if it means nothing and has no value?'. I'll only say now
that although I don't worry about a point or a meaning to living, I
wouldn't say life has no value.
I'd like to
JMJM, My comments are imbedded below:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺å¦ç²¾æ
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Bill, I admire your commitment and passion. I have already
stated
that it is not my focus to discuss this subject. Since you are
interested, let us
Thank you for your post. I agree with everything in it.
IN MY OPINION, zen (I spell it with an initial lower case 'z' to
differentiate it from Zen Buddhism, and to help remind me that it is
nothing special. It is not a name of a particular think. It is not
a proper noun.) is direct
JMJM,
I also agree with Al's decision not to moderate.
I, however, would not insist on anyone using the term THIS as I do.
In fact I think it's better they don't. They should develop their
own means of expressing THIS. I use it because I don't know how else
to communicate what I've
Mike is RIGHT! (Oooops! I mean - I agree with Mike's opinion.)
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Al,
I get the feeling from the general thrust of your posts that you're
looking for something, some kind of meaning to your existence.
Nothing
JMJM,
You wrote:
Aha Bill, Interesting. Sorry that I disappointed you. This
discussion typifies the problem of communicating in words. I believe
you use words precisely. Your terms are well-defined.  Yes, and
no. Wrong and right. You and me. While I believe every meaning
is
Al,
I think if you'd reread some of the Zen literature, especially koans,
you'll quickly see that what these people are talking about is
exactly 'JUST SIT or JUST TAKE A SHIT or JUST FUCK or JUST DIE'.
Morals, ideals, etc... are all illusions. Why do we have them? I
don't really know, but I
Al,
I screwed up the acronym (in my opinion). It's supposed to be
WYSIWYG - What-You-See-Is-What-You-Get.
There's humor in this screw-up if you like to laugh at my mistakes.
Feel free.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Fitness63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Smart Zen
sickness having completely vanished, and
will experience genuine peace and joy.
Bassui - Japanese Zen Master (1327-1387)
...Bill!
P.S. I bow with great humility to your dog...
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Fitness63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Smart It is not a name
Al, My comments and replies are embedded below:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Fitness63 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bill Smart JUST THIS!, or THIS!. That way I don't have to
deal with
the dualities of direct/non-direct, or explain what 'experience'
means, or
the duality of reality
OUCH
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
!!LEGO GO MY
EGO!!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
JMJM, My comments are imbedded below
Chris,
I've also experienced a flush of energy during zazen. I have no
doubt this is the same energy that Chan (and other schools) refer to
as 'chi'.
I've also experienced being suspended in a golden light or aura,
floating out-of-body experiences, strong visualizations of Buddhist
and
OUCH
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, cid830 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
!!!LEGO MY
EGO
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Bill Smart BillSmart@ wrote:
JMJM,
I can accept any word/name you use
Mike,
This post was not sent to me via email as most posts are. I don't
know why. That happens sometimes. Since I hadn't received any
postings recently I logged in to the Forum and found your post.
Thank you for your post. I always find your posts thought-provoking
(which I guess is not
Mike, That's just pheromones. I use them instead of pick-up
lines...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, old hippies never die - they just smell that way!! :)
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading!
MJMJ,
Thanks for your thoughtful post. You documented many things about DL I didn’t
know – like his announcement that, as you wrote, “…he would not be
reincarnated”.
What do you think he meant by that?
Do you think he meant that he, as the personage of Dali Lama, would not be
reincarnated?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Cynth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ew...there's something unsavory about getting a pickup line from
someone
in an email group, especially in the middle of a debate.
Cynth
My point exactly! It's the old 'hold up a mirror to show you what you
are doing'
Subject: Re: [Zen] D.L. Again
Damn! Hoisted by my own petard.
How dre you?!?
Seriously, though, I was trying to give him the brush-off and he would
not stop bugging me. I did not want to play the I'm a mom card, but
that was about all I was left to do.
Cynth
Bill Smart wrote
literally) running out the door to catch the ferry from
Shanghai to Osaka (not quite bonny Scotland)!! As soon as I get an
opportunity to respond I will give you a broadside! Later, Mike.
- Original Message
From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday
Jue Miao Jing Ming,
Thanks for the history lesson. I was aware of all of those things except the
part about Mongolia. I thought it still was a part of China. In any event the
state of being part of China or not part of China is, like all things,
transitory. Some years high hemlines are
up, the opinion itself becomes incomplete. Is there a way to comment
by including all the perspectives and angles with our current language tools?
All forms are relative and interdependent to other forms. Opinions result us
to be lost in relativities.
JM
Bill Smart wrote:
Jue Miao Jing
In my opinion the Dalai Lama is needs to decide what he is. Is he the
religious leader of the Tibetan Buddhist Church, or is he the political
leader of the Tibetan people? I think until he decides and focuses himself
in one area or the other, he will not do well at either. Remember the zen
Jody,
Thanks for your reply. I won't be ready MY LAND, MY PEOPLE, but I'm sure
it's well-written and very inspiring - although you've got to admit such a
possessively charged title is not very Buddhist-like.
I wish the Dalai Lama well in all of his endeavors, but in the political
case in
Diablo-Drakul,
Zen is the quintessential WYSISYG. There is nothing new in zen - in fact
there is nothing in zen at all.
If you're looking for NEW or POPULAR, try buying an iPhone.
.Bill!
From: diablodrakul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:35 AM
To:
Cause and effect are maya. Who is it that initiates cause? Who is it that
experiences effect?
If you don’t initiate a cause, then there is no effect. If there is no effect,
then a link to a cause is unnecessary. Only THIS! …Bill!
From: Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 [mailto:[EMAIL
I don't know of any link between homosexuality and zen.
Is there any link between someone who uses a pseudonym made up of double
devilish synonyms and dumb questions?
...Bill!
From: diablodrakul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:34 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Is this 200 HUMAN years? Or DOG years? ...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, dhammastudents [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Anti-aging or reverse unhealthy cells with Nano technology to create
zero energy or also known as scalar energy .
Zazen will do this for you. You can live 200 years.
sedation takes me thru' the leaner times. Boo hoo (who).
- Original Message
From: Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 14 January, 2008 10:33:04 PM
Subject: [Zen] Re: no death
I can live with no death
Boo who? ...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... boo!
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about it today!
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* To visit your group on the web, go to:
I can live with no death. But is life worth living with no Zen Forum
posts?
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bill wrote:
Boo who?
Why are you upset?
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk
Fajian is not SPAM. He is a regular contributor. He's just plugging his
other Yahoo Forum. We do get SPAM from time to time, but Al, our 3-headed
Cerberus, gets rid of them pretty quickly.
But to answer your question below, this is a bogus zen forum.
.Bill!
From: diablodrakul
On Thursday, January 10 Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
Bill, you are right. Yet Hanh is not wrong.
Ten thousand dharma for ten thousand hearts. Each is a beauty in itself.
Ferrying sentient beings from a formed domain into a formless domain is always
a challenge.
We can only seed the cause
Jeff,
First of all, WELCOME TO THE YAHOO! ZEN FORUM. We're all beginners
here, so I hope you will feel right at home.
Since you're a newbie, I'll be especially gentle with you. My
comments on your posting are imbedded below:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, JEFF K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is a test posting using email. Disregard.Bill!
On Thursday, January 03 Mike Brown wrote:
Hi Bill. I don't have much to say about your words regarding sentient
beings, Christianity and Enlightenment because I think our views are in
accord. However, I'd just like to add that in discussions about zen and the
bodhisattva ideal there is often some
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 ZenBob wrote:
No, absolutely no. You fail to understand the manner of human thinking.
We cannot say don't think of an elephant and not think of an elephant --
even the act of attempting to negate that thought is the formation of that
thought.
Understanding the manner of
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 ZenBob wrote:
It is neither correct nor incorrect to
state that if one practices Zen that one does not make choices. As
humans, we make choices, and practicing Zen is a choice.
If we then choose to practice Zen, then our Zen Mind, and Zen Bones,
follow that
I’m already here!
Me too! But it's 'how' we move which determines the zen..
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Move to a different carriage…Bill!
When the old drunk guy sitting next to you on the train farts and shits himself
and the odour fills the carriage - are you going to cleanse your
From: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
Kirbo
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:18 AM
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Zen] Zen Koans
[…stuff cut…]you can imagine your companion to be a beautiful and charming
young lady (or
bullet,
Hole where head should be,
Hot tea refreshes the World.
Bill Smart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haiku .357
Glock 3-3,
Loaded, safety off,
Would you like a cup of tea?
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